#3571 RHOSLC S7E4 Part Two: Bad Vibrations

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1:50Well hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

2:09Ben Mandelker: So then we go back to the Bronwyn's group, and they're now settling in around some snacks, and they're all still wearing their hats, which is they're not big hats, but they're not fancy hats. they're all like a look but britney's still in her big flower hat which is funny her home alone her uh her uh what's her face what was the name of the actress she just died not brenda blether brenda flick fricker yeah she's in her brenda fricker her hat and um they're all gossiping and braun was like this was fun today you know last night was such a bummer you guys i'm not gonna lie to you you know i don't know i didn't realize till we're at dinner i was like you know i kind of would love it if someone had been like you know divorce moon for bronwyn you know i made this trip if someone wanted to make a toast to me so you know congrats to bronwyn for dating a hot guy for suffering through years of werther's originals from todd now she has a model like someone could have said that so you know if someone wants to do that tonight you could do that great um heather's like but i didn't know because there were moments where you said i'm going through a horribly painful divorce and i mean it's confusing but bronwyn And share with us.

3:21Share your pain, Bronwyn.

3:23Ben Mandelker: Well, I was talking to Whitney about this. And it's messy because it's not done. And so, you know, like, we still, you know, he came into town last week to sign the house closing at Capitol Grill. Yeah, at Capitol Grill. Yeah. And Heather's like, oh, yeah. So what was that like when he signed the papers? Was there a salad in proximity? Well, it was awkward. It was a little bit awkward. Okay, Brittany here. Can I ask more details? Because I'm really into real estate. You know, that's my thing. And I'm just curious because you guys owned the house together. Correct or not correct. And please know that I will be on MLS.

4:02By you answer.

4:04Ben Mandelker: Well, we own everything together. But everything we own is in a trust. Mm-hmm. A Bob trust. Okay, so then you both had to sign the paperwork at Capitol Grill. At the moment you were at Capitol Grill, you were signing paperwork. Bronwyn's like giving Brittany a look because Bronwyn knows that Brittany's trying to set up a case but Bronwyn doesn't really know what the case is yet because there is no case so she's like we both had to sign the paperwork at Capitol Grill and when we sold this house we just split it 50-50 like the way we split our garlic bread Capitol Grill I think Bronwyn does know that this is coming because she started the whole oh and then he just came in town last week to sign the paperwork.

4:49It's just such an odd thing to bring up. I think Heather was like, Brittany is telling us that she saw you at the Capitol Grill with Todd pretending to sign paperwork or something. Because it seems like she's like, oh, you're going to come for me with a case? Well, here's my case. We were signing. We did have paperwork together because we're a married couple. And okay, everything's in a trust. So you both had to sign the paperwork. We both had to sign the paperwork. When we sold this house, we just put it 50-50. Okay, did you talk about the money separation and who's paying who and what and how?

5:22None of your fucking business. I don't even like you. How's that for an answer? Heather goes, take off your Lenny Kravitz coat. That's my friends.

5:31Ben Mandelker: Yeah, American woman. And Heather's like, Britney, we're being friends. And, you know, we're not doing investigations, which is a lie. But that's Heather's way of saying you're not being chill about this. You got to be a little bit more slick to get your information. So Bronwyn's like, Brittany, I am getting money individually as we sell each property. And I'll let you know the sale price as we do them. And if and when we agree on a cash settlement, I will also send you a picture of the cashier's check. And then you'll know all the details you need to know. And Brittany's like, thank you. And I'm not sure why Brittany has all these WhatsApp in.

6:10Ben Mandelker: Thank you. That was so kind of you. Like you can tell that Brittany does not pick up on any of the sarcasm. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure why Brittany has all these questions, but maybe she's trying to see how much money Todd will be left with in case she wants to date him next. I don't know. I don't know. So, hi. Has everything been just like handshake deal? Deal. Deal? Sorry. Deal. Handshake deal? It's just so funny when she said that. Has everything been like a handshake deal?

6:49okay but if you know is there a world where todd will screw you in the divorce well he he could he could he's good he's still good i mean it'd be the first time i've been

7:00Ben Mandelker: screwed by todd in a few years but he could definitely do it and heather's like so it's totally amicable now in the sisterhood what would make it not amicable bronwyn um well he does get It's spicy about the Brandon stuff. He does. He does. No friend in the world is going to tell you that that's a great move to do a People magazine press release about your hot boyfriend. No, no, no, it's probably it's probably not. It's probably not. No friend would advise it, but it is really fun to watch you bitches get jealous of me. So, yeah, it might be worth it in the end. It might be worth losing all that money just to have all the jealousy on the cast.

7:36Ben Mandelker: Yep. I'm just wondering if you're putting yourself in a compromising position with all of this Dancing in two worlds, you know, trying to get money from an old man while you're fucking a young one publicly I mean, is she a fool? A handshake deal? The ink's not even dry I mean, you could take that contract and hold it in the air as you run across the Golden Gate Bridge And up Lombard Street and swim out to Alcatraz And that ink would still be wet i mean business 101 man art of negotiation pretend to be sad at least i don't think that heather is all that wrong no she's not she's not wrong decent point um and bronwyn's like well britney i think you should swipe your credit card for that red fur and then we should just get out of here okay and tonight i'm eating all the food at dinner girls okay look at me and good attitude bronwyn through this entire trip not letting britney have it but you just you just wait you It's coming.

8:35It's coming.

8:37Ben Mandelker: Yes. So now it's nighttime and they're going to Chinatown and they're arriving at a place called China Live. Live from New York. It's China Live. And so they're going to go do like a dumplings, dumpling class, which I would love to take because I've watched so many dumpling videos. And I'm like, OK, this time I'll be able to crimp it well. And mine always wind up looking like sad, melted clams. so then um i have like stuff coming out the little sides of it always put too much filling it's like my body put too much filling and then wonder why stuff is blurbing out the side of your pants you know blubbering out i mean that's nice that you put emotions in your dumplings no fillings yeah your emotions eat your fillings no for real i every time i see those videos they always sort of come up on instagram and now i'll get them all afternoon because i'm talking about it my phone's listening but they always show someone you know they do like a whole series of different dumpling shapes like do it like this it looks like a little bow do it like this it's like a little like rainbow like this and that and it just looks so simple it's just like going and then it's like beautiful um and yet when i do it it's just a shit show i'm like so i'm so jealous of skill it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial you know those pieces in your closet ronnie that you find yourself wearing on repeat the sweater that goes with everything the perfect pair of pants or the tee is somehow always reach for first those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy and that's what quince does best quince focuses on high quality wardrobe staples made with premium materials like 100 % mongolian cashmere organic cotton and merino wool.

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12:35Ben Mandelker: Higher app engagement was associated with greater weight loss at 16 weeks. Well, guys, we're going to have a dumpling competition, okay? We're going to come over here. We're going to go to the dumpling wrappers. We're going to put a spoonful of stuff in them and see who makes the prettiest dumpling. And Lisa's like, um, chef, would you show me how to do it? So the chef comes over and she's like, this is how you do it, Lisa. And she does it kind of for her. And then Lisa just holds it. And then they're like, okay, who has the best dumpling? Lisa. She's like, thank you. Thank you, everybody. That is not fair.

13:07It legitimately is not fair. Jeff just did it for Lisa.

13:11Ben Mandelker: sorry well like some of us are busy going to the oscars we don't have time to do our own dumplings that's called using your own resources that are available to you like bezos or bill gates brigham young you know you just do what you do did we skip over the part where they actually made a callback to crazy rich asians i think they were in the car heading to this place or maybe it was earlier where they talked about like dumpling making and I think they were trying to bait Meredith to say something about Crazy Rich Asians they're like remember remember when this happened at Crazy Rich Asians but Meredith said nothing I haven't ever seen that film somebody hasn't watched Crazy Rich Asians

13:55Ben Mandelker: so Lisa is saying she did not cheat anyway now they go upstairs to have dinner and Bronwyn's like well I thought that was a fun afternoon we got to see Brittany pretend that she could afford a Lenny Kravitz coat and then wear a Home Alone 2 hat. What did you guys do? You know, did you guys have fun as well? Did you have any good memories? Did you know that it was a dildo museum the second you walked into it? Meredith's like, well, the sign on the door saying dildo museum kind of gave it away. I feel like you guys were the more likely ones to go to this but we did have a blast But can you guys imagine that they were using those that many years ago?

14:38Ben Mandelker: Heather's like, oh, in what era? 2 ,000 years ago. 2 ,000 years ago, they had plug-in vibrators. I didn't buy this. I don't buy that whatsoever. Heather, they wear hand cranks. You know, like a grandfather clock. It's like, so did you guys buy stuff? Did you guys buy old 2 ,000-year-old vibrators? And Kwai's like, I bought something Yeah, Kwai got a shady gift for Heather Well, she got Well, first she got a Like a speckled dildo, right? Was that what it was that came out first? Well, she gave I think somebody else gave the dildo Kwai gives Heather some Oh, yeah, that's the pasties They're like mood pasties that change colors on your nipples depending on your body heat.

15:32And Kwai's like, it's a peace offering. They change with your heat. Should I put them on right now? I love pasties. I'm going to put them on right now, everybody. I'm wacky other day.

15:43Ben Mandelker: And then, hi, this is a win for Kwai. It's like a mood ring, but for tits. Oh my God. So then Lisa, this is where Lisa pulls out the speckled dildo. It's a funfetti dildo, so Bronwyn loves it. And I have to say, are you going to use it tonight? Does it plug in anywhere? Or is it like one of those ancient Greek ones that you have to use by yourself? And Bronwyn's like, yeah, I'll use it every night. I mean, what else would I do with it? Am I right? I mean, this is what I was hoping. I would get to go shopping. They'd bring me a souvenir from the dildo museum. Like this is the best of both worlds.

16:16Ben Mandelker: Hannah Montana. So they're playing around with the dildo and stuff. And Brittany says that she's had bigger and it was glorious. So there's one more quiff. there's one more quiffed Kwai says and it's for Whitney and Brittany's like wait where's my gift I know they're like sorry Brittany gifts for main cast members only so it's a ball gag for Whitney which is the second shady ball gag we've seen in about a month because on next gen New York City there was a ball gag during the shady gift exchange that happened up in the Catskills, there was a ball gag that was given. I don't remember who gave it to whom.

17:05Ben Mandelker: Was it to Liam? No, I'm sorry. Not Liam. I mean, was it to Shy? I don't remember. I just remember she going, what's that? What's that doing? What do you mean it's a ball gag? It's a ball? It's a gag? Why? But also, like, what a generational difference because all the kids on that show just like laughed at it and we're like this is cool whatever and on this show they're like oh a gag message received i love that whitney's holding the ball gag and she goes is that a gag no whitney it's a rotary phone it's a guy gift yeah well guess what message received you want me to play more baseball like no that that wasn't the message whitney But message received.

17:58Ben Mandelker: You want me to hang more of those crystal balls in like the woven things like a dream catcher? Message received. I was questioning where I stood with Kwai, but now I know. Well played, Kwai. However, I would have preferred a vibrator. Now I see. She wants me to be on her field hockey team Where we'll use sticks to hit balls around Which is why she got me a ball gag Message received Wait a minute, Kwai I'm reading between the lines Why did you get me a ball gag? I think you're actually not I think you're actually on the line I think you're actually directly on the line Because you're asking Wait a second Did you get me a ball gag because we're going to a fancy party where we have to wear gowns?

18:57Ben Mandelker: Message received. Gwai's like, well, it's because the whole toothbrush thing. She's like, well, I'm sorry I told her it was not mean-spirited in any way. I didn't know Angie was going to show up with toothbrushes. We have a connection. We have a history. I don't want to do anything to mess with that. But instead of coming to me and us working it out, you went to the one person that hates me, Meredith. Excuse me, you are the one who said you hated me. I never said I hated you. I mean, I do hate you, but I never said it. You actually said it, which is a fair point by Meredith. But also, this Whitney logic is so fucked up.

19:41Ben Mandelker: Like, this is so, like, Whitney, you know you messed up. Last episode, you were like, oops, I guess I shouldn't have said that. So then you have to take your lumps. She gave you a shady gift back, which is like, stop. You know, like if I tell you something, you got to shut it, you know? And you have to be like, that's fair. But instead you're like, well, you clearly have an issue with me. And the fact that you didn't pull me aside privately when I didn't pull you aside privately to tell people that I told your stories, well, that's just shitty. Like when you're trying to spin it that Kwai is in the wrong here.

20:16Ben Mandelker: No, Kwai had every right to give you that shady ball guy gift, and you should have just accepted it as a shady gift. And now you're actually trying to flip it into Kwai being the immature one here. Absolutely not. Right, but this is why Whitney is good at it. You know, she's good, and it actually works. Where she's like, okay, this girl's going to try and start a fight with me, but you went to my enemies, and now you're kissing Lisa and Whitney's ass, and now that's the problem, you know? so she's like yeah because meredith says i'm a liar and then she's in your ear all day and i saw it meredith is in your ear all day and night and last night when bronwyn went out to get them you said well you should go talk to whitney because she's pinning it all on you and then she showed me you haven't moved forward and meredith's like well i did tell bronwyn that you said that bronwyn added color to it and we see the quote and that's exactly what meredith said which is what you said So why don't you discuss the color that was added instead of you criticizing me for repeating what you said?

21:16Yeah, but that's a deflection. Wait, can we, can we, can we tear this open a little bit?

21:24Ben Mandelker: Because this happens on the show a lot. Like, you said that she said that when we did this, they said, and I get confused. So the first thing I want to point out before we even do that is I do love, and I did talk about this about five seconds ago, But I do love that Meredith pointed out that you were the one, Whitney, who declared that you hate me. Because even though Meredith can't stand Whitney, Whitney is the one who really said, I hate her. And then she's going to make it seem like Meredith is the one who is being hateful and doing that. But it was you who did that, which is another example of what you talked about, her flipping.

22:00Ben Mandelker: but then this thing of last night when Bronwyn went out to get them you said well you should go talk to Whitney because she's pinning it all on you meaning that Merit Meredith said this to Bronwyn right like Whitney is saying that Bronwyn Bronwyn told the story about the toothbrush is that what is that what Meredith is saying there no she's talking about when Bronwyn was like oh yeah you did say that you did say that do you remember when you said and you were very angry you were very angry she's kind of moving it over like why are you out here standing up for whitney when oh yeah them or you know you're standing up for whitney just turning it yeah she's just turning it to what bronwyn was lying about because bronwyn meaning that lying about some bullshit last season right because meaning that like bronwyn was at that conversation at the at the bar named sue and was acting like she's friends with kwai but also then threw kwai under the bus as well and then said that Kwai and then lied and said that Kwai said that um that Heather's aggressive right is that what it was because Bronwyn was saying okay because Whitney was just saying Whitney was just saying hey this toothbrush thing like I heard she took the toothbrush and whatever and then Bronwyn was like oh well she's adding color to it by making it sound like a bigger deal than it was, I guess.

23:23Right?

23:24Ben Mandelker: Okay. Okay. Something like that. We'll just go with it. It's like a stupidest fight because they're fighting over the dumbest little things, but they're making it such a big deal that we're like, wait a minute. Why is this a big deal? You know? Mm-hmm. So then Mer... They get you. They get you. They confuse me every single time and that's their job. And so Whitney's like, that's a deflection. Lisa's like, how's she responsible? Mer's like, but I have moved on. And Whitney said, I've been trying really hard. Whitney, you have not. It's episode four. Yeah. You're already trying to be like, you're talking to my greatest enemy in the world.

23:57So now they're all talking over each other. And Angie's like, okay, there's too many people talking. We have to have the talking dildo. Whoever has this dildo gets to talk.

24:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So Bronwyn's like, can we not use my dildo and give it bad vibes, please? I don't want to stick that in my P word later if it's going to be angry. So I was like, okay, okay. This is my issue with this. this isn't and then when he's like this isn't your issue so then angie's like waving this dildo like you need to get this in your hand okay so listen's like okay you know this is the thing i'm speaking for me but you don't have the dildo lisa so she's like give me the dildo okay i have a dildo now now i'm not speaking for ashley i'm speaking for me because i just think it took a turn over this and this is where it belongs and then with this had a splash of bronwen because you guys were the ones there and you went to the biker bar and you went to the biker bar and you went to the biker bar.

24:56Ben Mandelker: And I was like, oh my God, Lisa with her baton. Am I watching Fantasia on the Golden Gate Bridge running up Lombard Street and then going and swimming in shark infested waters to Alcatraz? How hilarious is that? Soon broomsticks are going to come down, but they're not going to be broomsticks. They're going to be dildos. Isn't this hilarious? I did crack up at that when she's like, what is this Fantasia? And then they cut back to Lisa waving around the dildo. They're playing like, ha, ha, ha, ha, while she's conducting the orchestra. So then she's like, and you were at the Barker Bar, and you were at the Biker Bar.

25:36And she sets the dildo down.

25:39Ben Mandelker: She's like, it's not my problem. It's yours and yours and yours because you guys are the ones who had the conversation. And how you handle it is up to you. And that's where you're accountable. and Heather's like bravo maestro bravo okay well can I have it because I haven't been announced I haven't been able to answer for anything so I have to dildo now and I was there and I was in all the conversations and I did hear you say something I thought was negative about almost everything everybody in the friend group why okay so this Bronwyn doing her first season I was gonna say are we gonna talk about this right back at her because when she first came on She was in the car with Heather Gay and someone else, and they were shit-talking people.

26:21And then Bronwyn made a shady comment about Whitney just trying to fit in with the girls, I think, and be like, I can be shady too. Whitney did this and that. And then Heather laughed and then took it and turned it to, you were talking bad about people in this group, and you're new here. How dare you speak about Whitney behind her back to this group of girls? And now Bronwyn's doing the exact same thing. Commercials. Here comes one right now. He lurks in shadow. He slips into dreams. He casts no reflection.

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29:33Ben Mandelker: I was my very first thought. I'm so glad you brought that up. I was like, this is really rich. you know like Bronwyn went through the ringer and spent that entire season dealing with the wrath of Heather as Heather tried to turn everyone against Bronwyn because Bronwyn said a few like shady comments here and there and Heather was like how dare you say that even though Heather I think if I remember correctly Heather sort of like egged it on and then was like clutching her pearls and now Bronwyn is doing the same thing Bronwyn was in that conversation she heard the negative things and if she was so offended by them she could have said hey you don't know these women you probably shouldn't say those things or whatever but instead she sat and laughed along and then when it when they got to san francisco she was like she did say mean things she said negative things she said this and that and i'm like brawin like i'm not opposed to a housewife doing this because this is why we tune in but you specifically went through this process and you saw how like it was so hard for you like dealing with being a new girl and just like giving your thoughts on something and then having the group like like an elder statesman in the group turning it against you and now you're doing the same thing i i kind of lost some respect for her for this yeah well i didn't really have that much to start off with so i was cracking up because i was like of course you know it's like we're afraid and hurt by the monsters under our bed and then we become the monsters under the bed the show's a very corrupting force that's that's what the takeaway is that people come in as one thing and then after like a few seasons they are corrupted absolute power rules okay fine then these are the rules that everybody has to play by you know i can i can hurt people's feelings and do the same thing that you guys did to me so now either way braunwin it's braunwin is it's she's gonna she's gonna now pass the cycle moves forward so she's like well guess what okay you know what since i was a little girl my mom told me a dog that brings the bone carries the bone and a dog that wears a bob has a bob.

31:32Ben Mandelker: And I'm very worried about people talking about me. So when this came out on the trolley and you said Witty and I were twisting your words, yeah, none of that's happening. Here's where I went wrong. I got pissed off. And if that amped them up more than it should have, cool. That's on me. But at that biker bar, you did say something negative about everybody. You said Diablo. And I don't care if you were talking about the screenwriter Diablo Cody or or a sauce, or the mountain that's nearby here in the Bay Area. You said Diablo, and it wasn't cool, okay? Because that's a video game, and people played that video game, and I will not be played the way you're playing a video game.

32:07But she's so full of it, because she said, when you said Whitney and I are twisting your words, none of that's happening. Yes, it is. You did twist your thoughts. You made it a huge deal. And then she goes, and here's where I went wrong. I got pissed off, and if that amped them up more than it should have, cool. So, yeah, you got pissed off and you twisted her words. It's like she denies something and then confesses it in the same sentence. And also, like, it's hypnotizing, you know?

32:33Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I mean, and Whitney literally twisted it. Whitney literally said, like, she said diabolical. And Kawhi said Diablo. Now, by the way, let's also point out, like, when you say Diablo, it's not like you're saying, like, oh. like Heather's such a sweetheart when you say oh Diablo but also it's like really not the worst thing in the world what Kwai said and also Kwai herself had misinterpreted what Angie said when Angie said like you can't address this because you weren't there and then Kwai heard you can't be aggressive so they're all twisting each other's words which is what's hilarious but Bronwyn is really the difference is that I feel like Bronwyn's on a high horse about it uh in a way that the others aren't quite that way well it would have been as she said she said but Bronwyn was the deciding factor she was like the witness who came in and said yes you did say that she was being really aggressive and you said that you were like really scared of Heather because of the way that Heather had her finger you were you were thinking we're very scared when at the bar she was just like laughing along like yeah yeah you're so right quiet so uh and then and then here comes this so dirty and it's such a stupid little thing that is being twisted into this huge and then here comes a strange tentacle out of it.

33:52Ben Mandelker: Bronwyn goes you know the only person she didn't talk to me about was Meredith and Heather's like well that's weird because the only person I thought she had a problem with is Meredith that's what I heard on the street so then a day earlier because and just to decode Bronwyn and Heather for those who don't know what she's saying. She's saying the only person she didn't talk to me about was Meredith. She's saying that because, of course, they're going to accuse her of working with Meredith. That's going to be their big thing. Like, you and Meredith are working together. So then we see Angie saying one day earlier, I've heard from multiple people that Ashley's telling a lot of people that she can't stand Meredith.

34:34Okay. Who are the multiple people and who are the lot of people? You guys, come on.

34:41Ben Mandelker: So now, for those keeping track of this very intense argument, it's that while Ashley was talking shit about everyone but Meredith, but then in a different time, she did talk shit about Meredith. So if she's talking shit about everyone, why would she not talk shit about the person she had previously talked shit about? So in my mind, I'm thinking either A, maybe she doesn't have a beef with Meredith, or B, maybe she just didn't think to talk shit about Meredith. maybe it didn't come up maybe like like were you guys talking about meredith maybe like i don't know like to me it's like not a very like a solid case it doesn't it's like not indicative of anything like you could not really be digging someone and also like not talk shit about them like that that sometimes can happen you wind up you talk so much about someone else that you just don't even get to the other person like this is such a tenuous argument and they that you can see that they are all acting like they've found something like like oh she's caught red-handed the way she had the she omitted meredith from her feisty shit talking session at a bar called sue well they're just they're obviously trying to get ashley on stuff that they were trying to get her to say like that thing at the bar they're like so what do you think of the girls and she's like well heather's always been nice to me i mean it was a little spicy when she got her finger in that girl's face i was like whoa you know and then they're like you talked about heather yeah you said heather was aggressive you know so i think they're getting ashley on basic things that they're like so what do you think about this and she's like well you know maybe that was wrong of meredith if you're hurt by meredith maybe that was wrong and then they're like you said you hated meredith you know they're trying to make her look bad based on simple like basic like what do you think about that night out you know and they're trying to use it against her and i think that because ashley's face is well first we already saw them do this so we know that this is their mo but just ashley's face that she can't really deny it because she knows what they're talking about but it wasn't a big deal and she's like caught between saying oh god so i said something about meredith it wasn't mean because she wants meredith and lisa still on her side yes she doesn't want to admit to it all but she knows that there's something and she's just like caught you know she looks like she's gonna cry she wants to run away but she's just sitting there like what do i even do well she knows that like the people that she thought were her allies are not her allies and now she has two people who are her only life raft and she can't risk pushing them away too so which is basically what you just said and so now heather has heather's figured it out heather's talking like she's on the traitors, which is to say she has an idiotic theory that holds no water, but she's very convinced that it's the truth.

37:27Ben Mandelker: And she says, all I know through the grapevine is that Kwai said she couldn't stand Meredith. And now Meredith is the only one she didn't say anything bad about. I mean, it makes no sense. I'm confused. I'm like, it makes sense to me. Not that it makes sense but there's no there's no there's nothing like that that can happen like there's nothing crazy about that there's nothing indicative about that they just didn't talk about meredith or like it wasn't a thing that they heard this from whitney right and she had heard this from whitney because they keep saying on the street and we've heard it from somebody and they're trying to like shield whitney from this so she's like i mean i don't even understand i'm confused because obviously Heather and Whitney are like, let's get everyone thinking that she's working with Meredith, right?

38:17But then Whitney doesn't have any chill, so she's like, wait a minute, Kwai. So in any of our private conversations, you've never said anything about Meredith? It's like, well, you just blew your own cover. They were trying to make it not seem like it was you.

38:32Ben Mandelker: She's like, no. Remember standing in my foyer? Yeah. Remember that there was a coat rack? Yeah. Remember there was a coat on the coat rack? Yeah. Remember there were some shoes on the floor? Yeah. Remember that there was like a little bit of a draft so I went over to the thermostat and I raised it like 102 degrees. Do you remember? She's like, yeah. So Meredith is like, wait, so you're saying that she's lying? What's happening? And Whitney and choir are just staring at each other. And Angie's like, this is a showdown. Somebody's lying. Yeah, but we know that Whitney's a fucking liar. So I don't know how anybody is choosing.

39:08Well, I know how they are because we see them gang up all the time but why are you why is anybody even considering

39:13Ben Mandelker: this whitney is so full of shit so but also like whitney when like this is like the person you brought on again you brought this person on and you wrapped it up in this like layer of like we like we we share this friend in common who passed away there's something so special here at the top of this episode she even says there's nothing that's going to get between me and quad because what we have is so special and yet you're the one who's gossiping about every single thing that quad says and you're reporting it to the group and then you're gonna act like you're the one who's betrayed in this moment because kwai is not admitting that she said some shady thing about meredith and you're gonna act like you're the victim of a betrayal when you're the one who sold out your friend to this like group this hostile group of people it's just it's it's it's It's Wild Rose.

40:04Ben Mandelker: Wild Rose. I don't think she liked her in the first place. I think they were part of this friend group because of the lady, Lisa. What was her name? I forgot her name. The lady who passed away. But she probably never liked Kwai anyway. It's like who she thinks she is with her mountain. Her mountain that she owns and her Rush Limbaugh husband or whatever. So she immediately, it's like she's on the show, but now she's going to ruin her. so heather's like okay so you're gonna oh meanwhile lisa's just applying lip liner obsessively over there she's been applying lip liner for 10 minutes meanwhile heather's like are you gonna say you've never said anything about meredith to whitney no you're saying she's lying well somebody is lying she needs to own up it looks like she is nervous and angie does not angie why does look nervous she just looks like what the hell what do i even say here and she's like i just can't believe whitney is bringing or talking bring this up or talking about this whitney is 100 trying to create issues with meredith and i and it's disgusting so then heather's like i've heard that you did say something so i want quite to just say what it is that she said because i have a feeling it's not that big of a deal but obviously she said something because she won't even answer the producer but you know at the same time she's like i'm not going to give you the satisfaction whitney you're going to throw me under the bus I'm not going to let you do that.

41:26Ben Mandelker: Like, yeah, I'd said something. I don't know. It's weird because Kwai, it's weird. Kwai owned the toothbrush thing very quickly and easily. And it feels like she said something. Part of me feels like Kwai just doesn't remember exactly what it was. Because it was probably so offhand. So she's like, I'm not sure exactly. I don't want to confess to something that I'm not sure what I'm thinking of is what Whitney's thinking of. So I'm just going to be quiet. And so then Meredith is like, well, it's not even a question of who I believe. I will never believe anything that Whitney tells me, period. And if I do believe anything Whitney tells me, please get me to therapy immediately.

42:07This is where I'm hurt, Kwai, because you said to me, Meredith, that you know now is not the Meredith that you knew years ago. And you said you see through it And you came to my house And you said that So what do you think she really said Because if If she's no Meredith a long time And Whitney's saying Well Meredith is a bitch and Meredith is this It would be natural for Kawhi to say But that's not the Meredith that I know She was never like that Known her for years I never knew her to be like that And then Whitney to twist it and be like You said that she didn't used to be like that Now you don't even know her.

42:49Ben Mandelker: But like Whitney is just like the worst messenger. She always gets it wrong. So it's like, yeah, it's like, who knows what Kwai said? And so Heather goes, and you don't like the way that she moves. And Kwai's like, moves? I didn't say I like, I never say anything about the way she moves. I think she walks in a very nice way. And Whitney's like, no, moves means how she operates in the group. We talked about that. You said you don't like that she pretends to be a doctor and operates on people when she's not licensed. Well, I don't know how she operates on the group. Why would I say that? She's like, well, we talked about it.

43:22So Whitney says, you know. Kwai, I call bullshit. First, Kwai gave me a bull gag. Second, she's lying and she's not protecting our friendship. And now she's sitting there with Tweedledum and Tweedledstupider aligning with them.

43:46Ben Mandelker: I'm just starting to feel like, well, if she's not going to have my back, I'm going to have my own. You are the one who didn't have her back first. You Tweedle twat. So then Whitney is like. Tweedle stupidest. Tweedle stupidest. So Whitney is like. When we talk privily, you've known about the dynamics and you've known that she doesn't like me. Well I've never said that I don't like you Whitney only with my eyes And you're the one who said that about me And do you see how she's twisting Her thing what she did to me Meredith that's there She's like bringing things in with her finger I do see ya Yeah Continual projection Sort of like a movie that never ends By the way Oscar's coming up soon Gotta go soon So Whitney's like I have a heavy heart over this It's been really hard for me to navigate someone who I have a major, major...

44:49Oh, gosh, I'm going to take out my hearing aids, because at least I won't be able to hear...

44:57See?

44:57Ben Mandelker: This right here, this is exactly what I'm talking about the minute I start talking. The canoodling of bullshit over there. The canoodling of bullshit. One person speak, please Lisa, you have been lining your lips all night Why are you still lining your lips? Yeah, why are you still doing your lip liner? I'm going to do as much lip liner as I want I want you, so I'm going to Quai said something about your lip liner I don't want to say it But Quai, do you want to say what you said about the lip liner? So Angie's like, it's a tick It's a nervous tick that she has I'm not nervous Are you nervous? I'm not nervous You have lined your lips 500 times.

45:46Ben Mandelker: They look crazy right now. I like lining my lips. I'll do it again. I'll do it again. I'm going to line my lips all night. What are you going to do about it? They look like a picture of a vagina I saw at the sex store today turned sideways because you see vaginas go up and down. Lips go left and right. You know what I'm saying? And Lisa just continues to lip line harder and harder. The lip lining is out of control. She is turning her lips into a trout bout. I don't give a fuck what she thinks about my lips. I'm going to keep lining them. Yeah, I mean, she's just turning herself into the Joker.

46:18Ben Mandelker: I'm like, you're dressed like the Riddler, though. And then Andrew's like, the bright side is that when Lisa lines her lips, it stops her from talking. And she goes, I mean, I could do this without a mirror. I like love lining my lips. It's like what you do when you go to the Oscars. Your lips should not be the same size because turn sideways. Well, you are looking like a vulva. And Brom was like, you guys, maybe we should table some of this Like, I mean, maybe we're just going around in a circle Okay, you know what I mean? We can read, litigate stuff later So, what cover are your nipple covers now, Heather?

46:53Ben Mandelker: They're still bright pink I was hoping they would turn a nice orange-red Like the Golden Gate Bridge But I'm happy as a pig in pink, ha! Oh, good So, now is a turning point for Ashley We're going to really see what Ashley's made of. If she comes to this and lets Whitney and Heather have it with some kind of facts or something, or if she just, you know, crumbles and lies down and takes it. Now's your test, Kwai. Now is your test. Now's your moment. Now's your moment. Don't fuck it up, Kwai. Yeah, seriously. Well, we'll see what happens next week on the show. Thanks all for being here. What a fun time in San Francisco.

47:38yeah fun times all right everybody well um here's to hoping we all have fresh new vibrators don't be putting anything that looks like a blow dryer from 1910 up in yourself it's not good we have

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