#3573 Real Housewives of Potomac: S11E01 Part One: Book Em’, Psalms!

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1:26Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens?

1:31Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to What's What Crappens? A podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on ye olde bravs. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi. How are you? Good. It's Monday, which is a wonderful day for us here in America because we get Real Housewives of Potomac return. Finally, yes. The return of Karen. And she brought a gigantic Bible with her, which means that she's very serious about changing. So it's a very biblical episode today of Real Housewives of Potomac. There's a preacher on, there's a new car with a Bible name. So, you know, get ready, get your souls ready because they're about to be converted.

2:21Ronnie Karam: We are also on Chua, the In The Mix tour. We're coming to your city. Guess when? Very soon. This weekend, we're going to be going to Minneapolis and Detroit. That's October 17th and 18th. And in Minneapolis, we will be recapping Real Housewives of Zold Lake City. And in Detroit, we will be recapping Real Housewives of Orange County. After that, we'll be going to Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Dallas, Texas, Austin, Texas, Houston, Texas, Nashville, Clearwater, Fort Lauderdale, San Francisco, Salt Lake City, Denver, Charleston, Atlanta, Seattle, Vancouver, Portland, Toronto, Boston. And we, for now, over at Broadway, the Golden Crappies Awards, New York City on February 25th.

3:15Ronnie Karam: So to get tickets for any of these shows, just go to watchwhatcrappens.com. That's where the tickets are and the links and the calendar and all that good stuff.

3:24Ben Mandelker: That's right. It's going to be a great tour. We already had a wonderful start in Kansas City and Chicago and Minneapolis and Detroit, two of our favorite cities to go to. So I'm personally very excited, okay? And I'm also tremendously excited that Potomac is back. this was a stellar season premiere if you ask me I loved it did you see the news that Giselle lost her case against her stepmother about the will which was crazy that something crazy is going on there and also our dear friends at the Bravo docket just did a whole deep dive onto that whole case and i think from what i read um they had like a summation on or summary on online i think that the like apparently the the dad had a will that pushed giselle out going back to 2006 right so like the whole discussion about oh he wasn't in his right mind was actually a bit like a bit moot because there apparently was a will that was, he was very much in his right mind 20 years ago.

4:35Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he kicked her ass out a long time ago. It was a long time ago. Basically.

4:39Ben Mandelker: Long story for it.

4:41Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Yikes. Rough. That's very rough. Yeah. I don't know. I still, I mean, I don't know. When you're married to somebody, don't they get your money? That's why you don't want your dad or your mom to get married again. Yeah. Because then they'll get it and give it to their damn kids. Get them out of the way.

4:57Ben Mandelker: that's true but uh yeah i still think it's weird that he wouldn't leave anything to his grandkids okay that's fine skip giselle that's fine but the grandkids people online are saying that uh it's because he just really did not like jamal bryant there was like a people are are regurgitating the clip where jamal and giselle went to uh lunch with her dad and the dad is just like barely tolerating jamal and then eventually he's like well i just want you to be happy and he's like he's like excuse me for one moment and he's like i'm taking this microphone off i can't stand this guy get him away from me that he literally did that yeah yeah didn't he leave and he was on mic like fuck that guy yeah he was yeah like yeah he didn't want jamal to have access to the money that's that's what people are surmising who knows well you know never plan on someone's money after they're dead

5:57Ronnie Karam: that's what i always said and that's what my parents always told us they said don't plan on getting one thing because a we're going to spend it all and b it'll probably be debt and c you don't deserve it okay we put you out in this world and i got made your own damn money so you know People die in my family. We're just like, bye, you know. Hope you left yourself enough to give yourself a funeral, okay? Because otherwise it's just going to be me and Bueller and some Starbucks. You selfish bastards, which I'm totally fine with. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. I'm totally mature about. But we know this is going to be a good year on Real Housewives of Potomac because not only do we have Karen back and just Karen-ing herself, you know, as Wendy says later about Ashley, Ashley is Ashley-ing more than Ashley has ever Ashley-ed.

6:54Ronnie Karam: Karen is very, very Karen this season. So we don't only get Karen back, we also get our favorite character, a little baby deer. It's like the first scene we get, the first shot we get is this little cutie pie. Like, hello, watch what crappens. Welcome home. Welcome.

7:12Ben Mandelker: the fawn is back i mean you know on below deck down under we have the fish report but when it comes to potomac it's basically the deer report except we don't do a deer report because it's only just one deer um but like you know this is they always include that little deer my favorite is when they show footage of the deer crossing the street i'm like oh it's getting exciting today because you know that deer's risking its life at that moment but it's great to have our old friend back you know yeah will it be carrying my years family yes you're not in the well the deer's like well i heard robin was back too so hello by the way robin is back and uh i keep on hearing from people and seeing things online saying i was actually really happy to see robin and weirdly enough i kind of felt the same way i think that like traitors did a good job for resetting robin for me when she left potomac i think that like her whole persona had kind of curdled and so i was like yeah time for robin to go that patreon situation was messy it was not right she was her storyline had gotten tired and boring and so when she left i was like but there was a time when i actually really loved robin and i really enjoyed her on the traitors i left that she was sort of tenacious and went after what she believed And so I think that maybe that gave me the reset I needed to embrace Robin's big returns today.

8:40Ronnie Karam: The only reset I really need is for them to take away Housewives, then put on a whole bunch of new Housewives that don't really work and then bring back. It's because it makes me realize what I forgot, you know, or it makes me realize what I was missing, rather. And, you know, I was happy to see Robin as well, you know, and I was happy not to see Angel. Not in a mean way, but I just think that they've got it right. They've got it right with the cast. The new lady seems completely off her fucking rocker. Yes. She starts with, I'm good old Southern traditional values. And we find out she's a preacher, but a new preacher.

9:21Ronnie Karam: She got called a couple of years ago. Yeah. When she was getting a lot of followers and stuff like, she's like an influencer preacher. Right. which means her marriage is going to fall apart.

9:34Ben Mandelker: Yeah. What's that? I said, which means her marriage is going to fall apart because if there's anything we know about reality TV preachers is that marriages subsequently wind up in the bin.

9:45Ronnie Karam: Oh, well, you know, what we know about preachers in my life is that they can be terrifying as a gay child raised by evangelicals. So I worry. I worry for Karen. You know, we have Karen coming back to the show sober and dot, dot, dot. And I worry for her mostly because she opens up praying. Like I said, it's a big biblical episode. We open with Karen out on her back patio praying on a yoga mat with a giant Bible and a candle. And as you can see by this picture here, she is right by a propane tank because this is Real Housewives of Potomac. And that's how we roll. The first season, they would fight right by the outdoor air conditioning unit.

10:33And this year, Karen's got a candle.

10:36Ronnie Karam: You know, not too close to the propane tank, but close enough for me to worry. Close enough that it's not the smartest.

10:45Ben Mandelker: That it's not the smartest. So, yeah, she's praying in the most sacred of spaces, a yoga mat. And she's like, listen, Lord, we're not playing. So use me. Use me. I'm like, I'm sure God is like, I need to have a vessel. Ah, Karen Huger.

11:04Ronnie Karam: That's the one.

11:09Ronnie Karam: Karen is really leaning into Church Lady this whole episode. She keeps going, dear Jesus. Oh, dear Jesus. Oh, Lord, dear Jesus. Oh, Lord, dear Jesus. Every time something happens. Like, you know, we get it. and the Lord gets it. He hears you. So she says, Do not incline my heart to any evil thing or to practice deeds of wickedness. I do like my private time with God. I do like my prayer. And she prays. She says, I always wake up with gratitude, honey. I made it through. I made it through everything that was happening to me.

11:54Ben Mandelker: God's like listen it's great to hear from Karen But I've just never had Any human call security on Me Like I'm God Security

12:08Ronnie Karam: If you forgot everything that she's Been through We get a clip of her being arrested And the police saying You had like a couple of beers And she says yes that's all I had God I'm lit I am lit. What is the world shaking or am I? This is crazy. Are you tilting the world? Dear Jesus. Dear Jesus.

12:33Ben Mandelker: And then we then go to 2025 where she comes back from jail in her big jeans and her braids. And she's like hugging everyone. Like, I'm back. Mommy is back. Get rid of the dirty bed in the fridge. They're like, damn it. No more chicken. and um we see that little print out on the on the fireplace that said welcome home that was like made on print shop like like ray pulled out the old apple 2gs press print on welcome home

13:01Ronnie Karam: um put it on the fireplace screen by the way it is yeah you're right taped to the fireplace screen there's a lot of fire there are a lot of fire things happening today a lot of fire purges yeah

13:15Ben Mandelker: I am different. I'm really grateful to be sober, but I just want to be a living testimony that it's okay to fall, or to drive across a median, and then fall as you get out of the car. It's okay to tilt the crown, just straighten it back up, assuming you can see straight, which you might not be able to, in which case, just wait until the morning.

13:37Ronnie Karam: Karen's Bible has little sticky tabs on all the various pages. She's like, my favorite part. I go back to this part often. And it's my favorite page. Lord, cocktail hour, happy hour at the Tally Ho. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That was a bookmark. That was a bookmark. So sue me.

13:58Ben Mandelker: I love this page. This one says, thou shalt not let the birthday girl sit on the edge of the booth. True words never spoken.

14:09Ronnie Karam: Thou shalt not cheat at cookie competitions, Giselle.

14:16Ben Mandelker: Thou shalt not claim that you are also the host of the Bermuda trip. Throwback. I still remember.

14:24Ronnie Karam: Now I'm 60 plus 12 minus 14 divided by X. And this is a new year. A new year for Karen.

14:34Ben Mandelker: That's right. And now, with that I've prayed on the yoga mat, let me go inside and see my loving husband Ray. Ray? Ray? I'm coming inside. I'm ready for my hug and kiss and words of affection. Where are you, Ray? Ray?

14:50Ronnie Karam: Ray? Ray, we just hear the back door close as Ray leaves. And so she calls him and she's like, oh, Lord Jesus, Ray, Hugo, Raymond, Hugo, Lord Jesus. Ray? Ray? Ray, it's Karen. Now, Ray, I know we're going through it, Ray, but next time maybe you'll stay for a cup of tea. Okay, well, Ray's got golf. So if you wanted to have a cup of tea with Ray, maybe you could have done your praying thing next to the propane tank after he left for the golf. Yes, exactly.

15:22Ben Mandelker: So Karen says, my experience changed, changed, changed for the best institution, that is, because once you've been through what I've been through, I can handle anything. So I'm looking forward a little bit to the side, a little bit to the left and to the right. It's really odd directions. It's very hard for me to keep my head in a straight line. that's okay though because it's we're moving forward ish viewing to the right back to the center viewing to the right back to the center viewing to the right back to the center i am

15:50Ronnie Karam: moving forward we get all these funny sound effects in this it opened up with horror music it was like we're going to karen's house

16:04Ronnie Karam: ray is ray about to kill her what's happening what are these horror movie sound effects so then And she's like, okay, I'm upset with Ray. But you know what? Now instead of, I don't know, drinking a margarita, I'm going to meditate. So we see her meditating with a giant HomeGoods turquoise thing. Yes, I guess. Turquoise paperweight. Jesus, I would like to thank you for the sale at HomeGoods. As turquoise was affordable and heavy enough to feel dramatic. Thank you. Thank you so much, Robert. What?

16:40Ben Mandelker: There wasn't. I see my life as before I found a nice little bundle of oversized twigs at home goods. And afterwards, my vases have never been the same.

16:51Ronnie Karam: And while she meditates, we see one month later. And Giselle's like, Karen, do you have something to say to me? Fuck you, that's what I have to say. Oh, really? And I have to call my lawyer about something that you've done?

17:03Ben Mandelker: And now we see another flash forward. All the women are at a dinner table. and Tia's like, you have this message mounted ahead of you. Your cut days coming up. And Wendy's like, I'm crying now. I'm sad. And then we flash forward another moment and Stacey is yelling at Giselle saying, don't talk to me, bitch. Say it to my chest, a bitch.

17:26Ronnie Karam: And then Ashley and Robin are fighting. Robin's like, shut up, Ashley. And then another scene, Karen's looking at all the women and she says, stop, stop. my liberties are at risk so basically we're seeing all sorts of stuff that's about to happen

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20:58Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And you know we're in Potomac because there are cherry blossoms everywhere. All over the wall, there's like Hobby Lobby cherry blossoms. They're painted on the wall. And what are they going to do about Karen, you guys? What are they going to do about Karen? Is she sober? Is she going to AA? And Ashley's like, no, not AA. I don't think she calls it AA. Oh, there she is. Karen, what do you call AA? I call it KH. I've got as many chips as years as I've been alive. I've always been a big member of KH.

21:33Ben Mandelker: That's right. That's right. Now that I'm triple 20 plus 5 minus 3, I can now admit that I must go to a 63 minus 14 times 67 divided by 3 step program. Karen, just say 12. No, I will not say it. I will not say it. I will do an equation instead.

21:56Ronnie Karam: Only doing equations. She tells us how good if a friend Giselle has been, you know, dropping stuff in her mailbox and letting her know that she's loved and missed. And Lord Jesus, I know how hard that is for Gizzy. And I'm very grateful for our friendship. And then we see clips of their friendship when they were fighting about who won the cookies competition. Yeah. And they're not showing this stuff, by the way. They're showing the stuff that you would only know if you're an OG from this show. Because we see Giselle bringing Karen cookies. And she's like, oh, you and your cookies. Your cookies are great, Giselle.

22:36Ronnie Karam: But that led to a huge. You cheated in the mother cookie contest.

22:41Ben Mandelker: Yes. So Karen's like, I want you all to give Giselle a hand clap. Because she's been a real friend. A real friend, which Giselle only acts like a real friend if she can then destroy you afterwards. So, you know, we had the rise. Now comes the fall. Yes.

22:59Ronnie Karam: How are we adjusting here? I think Karen, are we acclimating? Oh, very good question. Very good question. That's a great question. I'm great. I'm great. I'm blessed. I'm blessed. And so they order food and water. And Ashley's like, well, you're not drinking, right? No, of course not. I'm not drinking. Well, how do you feel when people come around you drinking? Do you have parameters around drinking? Well, you know, Ashley. Ashley. I'm not a drinker. I'm not a big drinker. And Giselle just looks at her like, what? Hello. You're not a big drinker.

23:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah. No, my issue is always with medication. So I'm just not around that a lot. I'm not around the medication, but everything else is absolutely fine. Giselle's like, I miss my gorilla. I just, I'm just super happy that she looks healthy, but you can't get better until you admit who and what you are, which in this case is a big time alcoholic, big alcoholic, alcoholic, alcoholic. Isn't that what they say? Wait a minute. There's something where they say, you just put it, you put it, what do you have to say? Like the first step is admitting you have a problem. Yes. That phrase.

24:14Ronnie Karam: Yes, just put that at the bottom. We've got to go to the first step, whatever that is. So are you in therapy, Karen? And she's like, I am. I am. I am. Therapy. It's very important, especially as you are new, stepping back into your life. But I want to know what's going on in your life. Let's not talk about my therapy. Let's not talk about my therapy now. That's enough of that. So Ashley says she's sort of dating someone. And Karen goes, oh, who's this one? She's like, it's Josh. I was like, really?

24:46Ben Mandelker: This guy Josh again? And then they both, Giselle and Karen both cackle. And Ashley's like, Oh, I know. I just really like him. You know, as much as I try to quit, Josh, I just like how he interacts with my family and how he handles me when I'm upset. And now he caters to all my needs emotionally and physically and mentally. And that's what keeps on me coming back. And Giselle's kind of like, Yeah, you went around the block and couldn't find anything. So you're back with him. You circled the block.

25:15Ronnie Karam: Okay. Now, I've got a lot of pictures today because this episode was making me laugh so hard. I'm putting Ashley up here. Ashley's outfit. Are you about to tell a child he's going to turn into Tom Hanks? What are we dressed for here? She got out of the machine.

25:33Ben Mandelker: She's like, I just got back from Coney Island.

25:39Ronnie Karam: She is about to give you a fortune and it's going to cost you a dollar. Yeah, it's definitely a look.

25:45Ben Mandelker: Disco fortune. Yes.

25:49Ronnie Karam: Well, um, uh, and Giselle's like, he is breaking her back out. Uh, be quiet. We're in public. We don't speak like that when, when we're so into the Bible. You embarrassing Giselle. Okay. Well, I saw the picture of you in Los Angeles, uh, looking butt naked with her jeans on. So we see a picture of Karen look all set, looking all sexy, pulling down her jeans to show her panties. and Giselle's like, yes, and the hand was empty where there's been a ring. Is it still empty? What's going on with your hand? Well, you know, I was wearing a propane tank this morning, so I didn't have my ring on. How do we talk about this?

26:29Ronnie Karam: How do we talk about Ray? Now Ray and I are going through it. We've grown apart. He actually left while I was praying through the phone book today instead of having tea. That's where we're at.

26:41Ben Mandelker: you know, I'm not being defensive, but it's none of your fucking business. It's like, okay, Karen's back. So she's like, well, you can't drop an F-bomb. Karen, that's beyond defensive. That's marriage conversation, right? And she's like, well, my marriage is motherfucking. It's like, motherfucking? She's like, that's right. I've been to jail. I can say motherfucking now. And that's what my marriage is. It's motherfucking. Matt, Karen, Karen, what's going on with you?

27:13Ronnie Karam: Sounds defensive to me, Karen. Well, I know you stepped in for Rob, Robert, last year. All right, Ashley. What does that mean? Who is Robert? I'm just swapping Robert. All right, let me play catch up. Let me just play catch up.

27:30Ben Mandelker: Robert, turns out, is Karen's pet name for Robin. So she's calling her Robert. so Karen uh Giselle just laughs and Karen's like so let me so tell me tell me about Tia I'm looking forward to getting to know her and Giselle's like oh you'll like her her entire life is going to fall apart this season which will be fun for us she has four kids and did you meet her husband Rob and Karen's like no I'm looking forward to getting with her soon I think we're going to do a tea, which is what I was hoping to say to Ray this morning, but apparently not.

28:09Ronnie Karam: People may think that Rob is this loving, committed, doting family man, but in his future, I see rain coming down on a house that is not properly foundational. Stop reading everything like it's a fortune, Ashley. Jesus. Just say what you got to say. So then we see Tia and her family and Rob being the one who's saying he's, you know, the chauffeur for the family and running all the kids around. And Ashley's like, there's a lot more to him than meets the eye. So Giselle's like, well, we'll ruin her life later. Have we spoken to Wendy? Not since me to work. Me neither. You know, I reached out to Wendy.

28:51Ronnie Karam: I did. I reached out and I just said, the police are on to you. I've called the police. Just kidding. It's just me, Karen. Just checking in on you, Wendy. You goddamn snake. You goddamn liar.

29:06Ben Mandelker: And we see that she wrote a text to Wendy saying, hi, Wendy. I just wanted to check in and see how you and the family are doing before you're shipped off to jail. Everything OK? And Ashley is like, she's like, did she respond? and Karen's like no I I ain't got no response and so Giselle says well you did tell her to shut the fuck up and we see that that was what and Andy's like what advice Karen do you have for Wendy and Karen's like shut the fuck up which I think was actually good advice

29:38Ronnie Karam: personally well technically she said I adore your mother I particularly loved when she told you to shut the fuck up this season that's what it was This is great. Yes. So then she's like, well, shut the fuck up. It was just to protect her. And I speak from experience. I don't want that for her. I just want her to shut the fuck up so that she can be peaceful. Peaceful in prison.

30:02So, yeah.

30:03Ben Mandelker: So they're like, Cameron's like, I am praying for her. Which is never a good sign. So now, speaking of which, it's time to see Wendy. And Wendy and Stacey meet up. And Wendy has arrived in a brand new Fabu G-Wagon, which maybe not the smartest choice when you're about to go to trial for insurance fraud.

30:28Ronnie Karam: But, you know, it's a choice. It's a choice. Listen, it's a choice, and it's a choice she named Psalm 91 so that people can know that she is innocent and she is very biblical. Yeah. So anyone thinking that she defrauded insurance companies, you better back the fuck down. You are accusing the Bible. How dare you? So the G-Wagon comes up and Stacey's like, hey, come on with the two-piece. New car, who dis?

31:00Ben Mandelker: And Wendy's like, well, that's Psalm 91 to be exact. So, by the way, I feel like that's like not a great car name. and it's not like because I don't even know what Psalm 91 means. They tell us later. I just forgot. It's more like it's just not what you name a car. I feel like you should name it after a name. Maybe name it like Sami if you want to name it. I don't know. I just think Psalm 91 is just, I don't know. It's not a pet name that I would go for.

31:30Ronnie Karam: Well, just don't be so, I mean, if you're going to name it something biblical, don't just do a verse because then we all have to look up the verse and we have to read the verse. Just do what you want to do. Just name it Jesus, you know? I mean, honestly. Here's my new car, Christ.

31:49Ben Mandelker: Look, if I'm naming my car after a biblical figure, I'm naming it Methuselah. It's that way. I'm like, I'm going to hold onto this thing for a long time.

31:58Ronnie Karam: It lasts forever. Yeah. Yeah, Moses, you know? Moses. Pick a big one. It's a big, popular one.

32:09Ben Mandelker: The only problem with the name of your car, Moses, is that you might wander off into a desert for 40 years and be like, where do I get home in this car? Jeez, Moses, help me out.

32:19Ronnie Karam: You could also part a sea. Didn't he do that? You could drive through the sea.

32:22Ben Mandelker: It's like one of those duck tour buses. You could just drive. Don't name your car, Noah.

32:26Ronnie Karam: I'll tell you that. Everybody will be asking for you to take their dog places. I know.

32:31Ben Mandelker: That car is going to reek. That car is going to reek. I think I'm trying to think of some other biblical people that I would maybe name it after. I think my biblical knowledge has really pretty much come to an end at that point. Like Cain and Abel. Yeah, probably not a good. You probably don't want to name it after them. Didn't work out well for either one of those two, you know.

32:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, I looked up Psalm 91 just to see what it says. and it says, don't be passive progressive. Whatever you need, we've got you covered. That's just how we do it. Is that an insurance logo?

33:13Ben Mandelker: That sounds like an insurance logo. That's not a song. That's not a song. I'm sorry. That's progressive.

33:24Ben Mandelker: I really believed you for a second. I was like, wait a second.

33:28Ronnie Karam: Wait a minute. That is not the Bible. Well, it is if your God is Flo.

33:34Ben Mandelker: No, we all know Psalm 91 is we are farmers. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

33:47Ronnie Karam: He lurks in shadow. He slips into dreams. He casts no reflection.

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35:51Ronnie Karam: man if everybody was as hot as jake the whole world would be christian you know like if jake was the religious leader jake from the farm was hot yeah no jake's hot no really you think so

36:08Ben Mandelker: everyone thinks jake's hot no do people think that i mean he's not ugly or anything he's like it's like universally considered hot no really really then how come everybody's so

36:22Ronnie Karam: excited to see jake the insurance guy like at the um at the bravo con everyone's like oh my god jake jake the insurance guy's here they would all run to go see jake so yeah i don't know i don't know I don't know.

36:38Ben Mandelker: I think he's like a nice looking gentleman, but I'm not like, oh man, Jake. Jake the snake. I'm not feeling that necessarily. But then again, I don't, I guess when it comes to insurance spokespeople, I don't know who the hottest one would be. I think I'll have to circle back on that one. I don't think they've emphasized that for.

37:03Ronnie Karam: Well, enjoy being charted the 1%, because I think everyone else is like,

37:07Ben Mandelker: yeah, Jake, whoa. Well, now I'm a dick. Now I'm a dick because if everyone thinks that he's hot and I'm like, he's not hot, I'm a dick because I'm saying I'm not empowering someone. I think he's a nice looking man. This is what happens. He's a nice looking man.

37:23Ronnie Karam: We're not here to empower insurance salesmen, for Christ's sake. We're here to empower Fonz.

37:32Ben Mandelker: This is a good time to maybe suggest to our various insurance agencies. Why not look like a really hot guy to be your spokesperson? Why not?

37:46Ronnie Karam: Why not? They did. His name is Jake. So Stacy's like, well, that new car's a nice way to brighten your spirit. Well, it's really homage to one of the Psalms that has led me through this time. One of my favorite lines is, he will fall upon me and I will answer him. I will be with him in trouble, honor, and deliver him. Energy wagon. Energy wagon. That's right. I love that. You're going to deliver the Lord, deliver him in style. Am I right?

38:15Ben Mandelker: Yes. Yeah. He will fall upon me, and I will answer. I will be with him in trouble, honor him, and deliver him. I would think it goes the other way around. If I'm in trouble, I thought, like, God is supposed to be with me. Not like, I don't know. I'm confused by the sum.

38:38Ronnie Karam: I mean, my first reaction is, and then he will fall upon me. And then I will say, get the fuck off of me. He just fell on me.

38:48Ben Mandelker: Talk about an insurance claim.

38:52Ronnie Karam: So we see, Wendy's like, I've been through so much. I have to process what happened in the G-Wagon. And then we see the headlines. Wendy Osefo and husband Eddie arrested for staging fake burglary to collect insurance money. 40 credit cards, 67 credit cards. We just don't know. Real housewife and husband arrested on fraud charges. Mugshots revealed. P.S. still to date, probably the best mugshots that have been revealed on Bravo. And that's quite a competition.

39:27Ben Mandelker: I think Countess Luann's is still the number one. That mugshot was iconic. But these two did a very good job with their mugshot work, that's for sure. And so now we're seeing footage of Giselle talking about Wendy. And Giselle's like, girl, you have all these degrees. This wasn't even a smart crime. And Wendy, you know, defending herself, saying, I have one social security number. It's basically like a whirlwind of everything that's gone to shit in her life. So Wendy tells us, there's been so many things written about me, written about Eddie, written about our marriage, written about this case.

40:07Ben Mandelker: People are taking it as if it's Bible without ever being convicted of anything. But if you're going to take something as Bible, you better name your call after it, okay? Because Stacey and Tia, they've shown up for me and in ways that the other women in this group have not. So I appreciate that.

40:24Ronnie Karam: These texts that pop up on the screen are hilarious because it's Stacey going, praying for my Nigerian sister. Oh, Stacey.

40:34Ben Mandelker: I know.

40:38Ronnie Karam: So they meet up. I hope you're Shio in prison. That was one of my favorite arguments of last year. I'm not trying to steal your marijuana business. Yeah, but you even named it Happy. No, I didn't. I named it Shio. That's happy and Nigerian. You're not even Nigerian. Yes, I am. I took a 23 in me and I'm a large part Nigerian, kind of, maybe. How dare you? How dare you?

41:05Ben Mandelker: Is that when Wendy just looked at the camera office style? Like, really? So Wendy and Sacy meet up at like a picnic table, which I thought they would never eat at a picnic table again after the season finale last year. And a small talk, like, how's it going? How's everything going? On your birthday, blah, blah, blah. And Stacey's saying, I cannot stop saying how grateful I am for my husband, ex-husband, boyfriend, whatever you want to call him, Timo. And we see that they've been having a great time over the past year. And despite various underminers like Ashley and Stacey says, Timo moved back in and we are back to a family of three.

41:47Ben Mandelker: Just me, Timo and Arabella. It's almost like the divorce never happened. And it just feels so good

41:54Ronnie Karam: Wait a minute, I did something You can't get mad, I invited Tia And Tia's like, oh, hello It's me, Tia Here I am with two bouquets of flowers One bouquet of flowers Okay, never mind, nothing for you Nothing for you, lady I hate But here's some for you, Wendy Dear Tia, Wendy, so good to see you

42:14Ben Mandelker: And so Tia and Stacey Have kind of a frosty meeting Where Tia's like, oh yes, I believe you met the song And Stacey reminds us that last year they did not end on a good note. But Stacey says, Tia's not really my cup of tea. Is that what the British people say? Get it? Because her name is Tia. But I said tea. It's very funny if you think about it. So Wendy says, even though there have been some things that have transpired between you two, from my vantage point, I don't think anything has happened that isn't salvageable. as in we're going to make a new team together, guys. Okay? So I need you guys to get along.

42:55Ben Mandelker: Can you do that?

42:57Ronnie Karam: I'll be the mediator now. Well, I will take myself as the mediator. Stacey, you shouldn't have kicked Tia out of your event. And I think you should have kicked Ashley's ass out. And if there's ever an option, the answer is always Ashley. Okay? And Tia, I don't think you should have told Stacey that she married up. That was very rude. So apologize Well I do see that and I do Apologize And for those of you who don't understand For those of you who don't have enough money To understand my accent That means I'm sorry

43:34Ben Mandelker: Here's the thing What's important to me is mostly How can we support you Wendy And I think that if there's any point where Stacy and I Can be in alignment I would hope it would be that So Wendy is like Well I appreciate you guys in the group And I understand you're not getting all the support. You know, is that true? And she's like, well, there's a pattern within this group. You know, I saw Ashley who, you know, for who she is and what she is. And she made those disparaging remarks when everything happened to me. And he was like, well, that's a shame. I mean, I actually thought Ashley and I were good.

44:06Ben Mandelker: But then I saw her salivating over some comments about my husband.

44:11Ronnie Karam: Yes, and we get a Salt Lake City thing where Ashley was giving a shady interview. and she's like, I think that Meredith is a C word and I hate her. But in this one, she was saying, oh, wow, there's some tea. Rob is not who you think he is. Tea has got some stuff brewing in the streets.

44:33Ben Mandelker: It's a man. And I hate Meredith Marks.

44:36Ronnie Karam: What is going on with these Q &As? So Stacey just stays quiet and they're looking at Stacey for an answer And Stacy's like, um, get it out then, Stacy. Well, she's circling. She's about to land. Do-do, do-do. Come on, you can do it. You can do it. The runway is open.

44:59Ben Mandelker: Please drop the plane. She goes, land the plane, baby. Land the plane. What's the name of the plane? What song is the plane named after? So Stacy says, well, I do know what Ashley is talking about, Tia. and um thank you for apologizing for what you said about my husband and i would like to apologize for what i have to say about yours which i was like great line oh my god commercial break was right there i was like oh like amazing amazing line i've been receiving messages about your

45:35Ronnie Karam: husband and so have other girls in the cast and the messages seem to prove that your husband has been on dating websites. Yeah. And I've received pictures of him on these dating. Do you have the pictures? I do. And just so you know, I've never repeated it to any of the girls in this group. I just happen to know that we've all gotten them. How do I know that? I don't really know. I haven't talked about it.

46:02Ben Mandelker: But still I keep my mouth shut. Still I keep my mouth shut so wendy goes well does it have his picture and she's like yes like it is then yes so uh tia is upset and he was like does it have multiple pictures and is he presenting himself to

46:22Ronnie Karam: be single and she's like yes wow it says his hobbies are carpooling oh oh my god that sounds like rob he does well i'm go ahead this is does weather hobby say letting the children have parties in the house that cause red things to be spilled on carpets it does say that i'm so sorry oh well i'm like a deer stuck in the headlights i've just i don't know what to do about this i thought me and rob were good how does everybody in the cast have pictures of this man but they don't send them to you the wife she knows what's wrong with people i'm telling i think she knows too i think she knows too i think she was they try to sort of make it seem in a few moments wendy says something

47:08Ben Mandelker: along the lines of like well this is like her british and nigerian heritage where she's gonna have like stiff upper lip uh which is why she's not as like terribly emotional right now but i think it's i think she knows and i think she was hoping it would just sort of go away and would not have to come up on camera um and in fact it has come up on camera because it always does especially

47:27Ronnie Karam: on this cast yeah uh so she's like oh it's everything's been fine with me rob i just don't understand and then we cut to a scene yesterday of her and rob and it's really uncomfortable they're out together and he's just on his phone and she's like oh well your phone keeps making a growl sound. What is that? Nothing. I'm just on my phone. Well, are you bored with me already? Isn't this lovely, being out here, outside? What is that, Rob? You know, I just, I don't want to do anything. I just want to, I just want to, I look forward to doing nothing. Oh, what a lovely date. Thank you so much, Rob.

48:14Ben Mandelker: this is more than i came out here for that's for sure i thought i was gonna sit on a park bench and just tell stacy why she's an idiot and then go home but now look so wendy hugs tia and stacy is saying tells us as hurtful as it is i would rather hear it in this moment just the three of us than be annihilated in front of the group could it be by the way tia that is from from before you were together. She's like, I've known Rob for 27 years, so I don't think that there were dating sites back then, and we've been married for 17.

48:49Ronnie Karam: She's like, okay, yeah, that's bad. Yeah. She's like, and there's no social media, so it's not like people could even get fake pictures of Rob. I just don't know that he's definitely doing it. They're like, oh gosh. I see a woman that's hurt. But she's not only British, she's Nigerian. And when I see her crying, I know that she may be hurt. Well, okay. I mean, I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really take a detective. She's crying. When I see her crying, I have a feeling maybe she's hurting. Yeah.

49:28Ben Mandelker: She just, actually, what you didn't see was she was chopping onions on the side. She's like, I thought that we were doing a little picnic. So I brought the onions to chop.

49:36Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, I'm processing, and this is something that we're going to have to talk about at a later date. Not on television. Well, I want you to know, Tia, however you process it, I'm here for you.

49:49Ben Mandelker: I'm here. And also, congratulations, because people say you didn't have a lot going on last year, and after the British accent, the novelty of your British accent faded, people thought you were a little boring. So congrats. You have a storyline. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you. I'm looking forward to this. I'm looking forward to my entire personal life being absolutely destroyed and decimated on this television show. It'll be great fun for me.

50:13Ronnie Karam: Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two.

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