#3587 RHOSLC S7E6 Part One: Boss Babies

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1:45Ronnie Karam: What happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello and welcome to What What Crappens? A podcast for all the crap we love to talk about On Yield Bravs, I'm Ronnie That's Ben over there, hello Ben Hi, how are you? I'm doing okay, I feel like I'm being gassed out of my own house Because Bueller got attacked by a skunk Well, I shouldn't say attacked, that's you know, Bueller went for the skunk first and the skunk defended himself and now then Bueller ran right inside and started rolling all over the carpet and now the whole house smelled, after three baths and a lot of scrubbing it still smells like skunk in here Jesus little bastard little bastard

2:39Ben Mandelker: sounds like the perfect metaphor for discussing real housewives of Salt Lake City some stink got in

2:44Ronnie Karam: and now we're we're attacked by stink yeah yep whitney did it yeah it was quiet's fault okay so yeah today is real housewives of salt lake city but first we're on tour um we're gonna be coming to a city near you we've been to four cities already and it's been Sarah March fan. In a couple of weeks, we are going to go crazy. We're going to be in Philly, Washington, D.C. That's November 5th and 6th. Then we're going to be in Dallas, Austin, and Houston, November 12th, 13th, 15th. And then from there, we go to Nashville, Clearwater, Fort Lauderdale, San Francisco, Salt Lake City, Denver, Charleston, Atlanta, Seattle, Vancouver, Portland, Toronto, So Boston and we end up at the Golden Crappies on February 25th on Broadway.

3:41Ronnie Karam: So join us for all of these shows, whatever you can. Get your tickets at watchwhatcroppings.com.

3:50Ben Mandelker: It's on the internet. Yeah. Yeah. This will be fun. Fun tour. I'm excited. I'm excited for our next few stops, especially because those are always so fun. You know, always shows a good time.

4:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we don't have one city that we're like, F that place. They're all fine. They're all great. Yeah. That's good. So here we are with Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Season 7, Episode 6. Boss up or shut up?

4:24Ben Mandelker: Well, Angie, we opened up the episode, and Angie is preparing because Mary's going to come over and uh mary comes comes in and angie is like crazy she's like very she seems like uncomfortable she doesn't know what to do so she's like being very like frenetic and she's like moving around non-stop she's like here here come on in come on in let me take your coat let me get this for you i've got champagne look at this champagne what did mary's like oh okay she's like that's not a 2003 champagne is it's just no the closest one i could find was 2013 and if you put your finger over the one it actually becomes a champagne from 2003 or actually 203 it's really

5:04Ronnie Karam: old mary's like no no that's a snooze fest we can't do that that one makes you fall asleep she's like what do you think it is meredith in a bottle aha aha aha just kidding just kidding so mary is like all these new plates and she really is manic she's just trying to please Mary running around like, oh, do you like this plate? Do you like this cup? Oh, we are going to have tea from a cup, a Greek cup. It is Greek wine. What do you think? Do you like this? Do you like that? And Mary's like, yeah, nice plates. But then she turns it over and she's like, the price tag's still on the plates. Why do you have price tags on your plate?

5:43Ronnie Karam: Which makes Mary even more, I mean, Angie even more like a manicky and weird. Why does she act like that? I think she's like, I think she's like uncomfortable.

5:54Ben Mandelker: I think she's trying to – she's so concerned about Mary's well-being that she doesn't know how to act normal. And so you can see it's putting Mary on edge. And I think we see it throughout the episode. And I'm wondering if this is what leads to their rift. Because don't they have a rift? Didn't they stop following each other? And they refollowed? They stopped following? There's something going on between the two of them. and um i'm wondering if they are bravo is planting the seeds here that mary is feeling like angie has changed towards her because of this oh we know what starts the rift

6:31Ronnie Karam: the tie wearing a tie to the boss lady lunch that's a big one that's a that's a big one yeah that's to mary that's that's gonna be a big one yeah so they mary's just like just sit down Please, let's just talk. Please, I don't care about your plates. Okay, just sit down. So she's like, it's good to see you. You look great. And this is one of Mary's first times out of the house. And she's like, you know what? Why don't you just stop moving around and tell me about the vacation? Just do that. And then Angie goes on for 10 hours about the vacation. I mean, they do one of those edit things where it's like, Angie's still talking.

7:17Ronnie Karam: Angie is still talking. And she's still going. By the way, did you notice that this episode started the way we start our live shows when we talk about Real Housewives? Usually we do like a little skit thing in the beginning. And we'll do something like, here we are in Salt Lake City. Woo! And this episode started with, woo! And I just felt, it felt like a warm hug. Yeah.

7:41Ben Mandelker: It felt like we were on the right path. um yeah so yeah we see angie explaining this whole trip with various crossfades and she even sings some hypocrisy and bullshit she's like grab like a coat rack or something to sing it so mary's like that's a lot that's a lot i mean how do you go from my house saying okay we're gonna act like sisters and we're gonna work through our problems and get you know get through this and we're gonna be a family i mean it's just like a group of it's a collective choice to break up and be divided so yeah i'm gonna do a lunch and i'm gonna gather you guys and i'm going to gather you up literally you're going to get gathered and i want to hear what happened from everyone and um mary says that you know they everyone showed up in my time of need so i know they're capable of coming together and moving forward um i'm like yes they are but they're even more capable of cutting each other's necks and stabbing each other and killing each other

8:34Ronnie Karam: for supremacy on this show yeah and it kind of cracks me up that mary is the voice of reason now It's like, oh, Mary, Mary, the one who brings everybody together. What? They really rewrite history on this show, that's for sure. And this started last year with Mary, when Mary came back and was, you know, the solid one of the group. But it cracks me up. Oh, how we forget.

8:57Ben Mandelker: How we forget. It is actually totally wild that Mary is our glue, our unifying force. And when now Mary takes them to her church, we're like, oh, good. what for like seasons it was like you mean the home of the cult oh look at mr skunk face over there there's bueller i'm just showing him sofa i'm just showing bueller as he spreads skunk

9:23Ronnie Karam: all over the land there's bueller say hello to the people that is his hi bueller look at him he's like don't come for me unless i send for you it's a great time to mention crap is on demand is how

9:36Ben Mandelker: you can watch some video. Our videos are exclusively on Patreon for one week before they go to YouTube, so go check that out. Patreon.com. Anyway, we now go to Brittany. Her daughter Olivia is having a 21st birthday at a place called Varley. And things are good with Brittany and Olivia. Brittany is, they're talking. Brittany's acknowledging her daughter's presence, which is huge. And she's not just saying things like, don't you remember when you were two and you loved Cheerios? They seem to actually be building a relationship.

10:14Ronnie Karam: I got you a coffee. This is a pup cup. It's what you give to the dogs.

10:21Ben Mandelker: It's a steamer.

10:22Ronnie Karam: So, yeah, they're here for this party, and she's like, oh, my daughter's talking to me, but I think there's two daughters, right? So I don't know if the other one's talking to her, but hey, baby steps.

10:32Ben Mandelker: Start with Olivia. Baby steps.

10:33Ronnie Karam: Go for there. Yeah, Olivia's having this birthday party, and the theme is Find Brittany a Boyfriend. There's a lot of older guys just lined up. Just kidding. It's a little birthday party, and Olivia has never even had one sip of alcohol in her entire life. Like, oh my god, Olivia gets to drink.

10:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's exciting for her. And so Brittany's like, my precious baby. So Heather says For those two to have a party together At Varley It's miles ahead of where they were Just a few years ago And Brittany's like Yeah, we've come a long way And it's just been kind of like a forward motion snowball That keeps getting bigger and bigger and better And you know, I'll take it We just have an avalanche of love The sort of love that will come Powering down a mountain And destroy anything in its wake So, yeah, I'm so excited for it. Just so happy for an avalanche because what's-his-face loves to ski.

11:35Ronnie Karam: It's his name, Osmond. Jared! Jared loves to ski. So, she's like, Olivia, you're going to have a drink today, your first drink. She's like, oh, my God, Mama's so nervous. How do you feel about your Mormon mother encouraging you to drink? That's a little bit of hypocrisy and bullshit. Bullshit. Man, that song really is an earworm because Angie sang it perfectly and these two sing it perfectly. I mean, granted, you know, we see later that Meredith and Lisa never stopped singing the song. So I guess it's like when a new popular song comes on the radio and they play it every two seconds. And by the time you're done at HomeGoods, you're like, OK, I get it, Taylor.

12:14Ronnie Karam: I get it.

12:16Ben Mandelker: Well, I mean, they really I mean, Angie, I'm not sorry, Meredith and Lisa have been milking it. there was the video that they posted over the weekend of them in a cockpit of an airplane and there were like two pilots and lisa's like hypocrisy and bullshit because they introduced the video and you know uh lisa's like hi everyone we're here we're we're like with some pilots and marith goes we're flying i'm like oh really i thought you were at the bank i thought you were bowling but they start singing it to the pilots and they really are singing it everywhere that they can as they should because it really it's like it's been in my head for a week i'm not even gonna lie i'm not even being funny and i'm trying to be cutesy for the podcast like all i do is say hypocrisy and bullshit over and over again yeah i'm already sick of it i'm like they need to

13:06Ronnie Karam: play something else now i'm tired of the song i'm living in it i'm enjoying it um and i think it's

13:12Ben Mandelker: I think it's great because now it is like the reigning Salt Lake City meme. And you know Heather is like in the corner being like, receipts, proof, screen time line, screenshots. Like, hypocrisy and bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

13:29Ronnie Karam: Especially when their mode is so offended on this show. Like, everybody has chosen to be like, oh, we're so offended at the song. And certainly the audience has turned on Lisa and Meredith for this horrible, horrible thing they did. The audience is like, yes! The airline pilot's like, hey guys, get into the cockpit. Hey, you guys just want to fly the plane.

13:49Ben Mandelker: Just fly the plane. What artists? What artists? It's also hilarious that their outrage at Lisa and Meredith over the song lasts for all of maybe half an episode. before they realize that they can actually all get together and go after Bronwyn. So it just shows how artificial their pearl clutching really was. Yeah, well, Bronwyn's isn't.

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17:19Ronnie Karam: I'm sick of things stressing me out. The other day I was running late and nearly ran over an armadillo. I felt so bad.

17:25Ben Mandelker: I'll tell you about stress. Imagine performing a cabaret ten times a week. Or learning a 17th language like French Peruvian.

17:35Ronnie Karam: Bon Gisissimo.

17:36Ben Mandelker: This is why I watch so much TV. And Amazon Prime definitely comes in handy. It's a great way to shift your mood. Yeah, but everyone's always like recommending a million shows. Like you gotta watch this, you gotta watch that. I'm at a point where I don't say, what do I have to watch? Now I'm all about, how do I want to feel?

17:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah, the feeling I chase is dark and moody. That's why I go towards crime shows.

17:57Ben Mandelker: Oh, I'm a comedy girly. I will rewatch the same comedy over and over again because it's so comforting to me. Or actually, sometimes it's actually sports. There are times where I don't even care about the teams. I just like being part of a live event, especially with some snacks.

18:09Ronnie Karam: Snacks are a part of the feeling. I love a cracker.

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19:04Ben Mandelker: Okay? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You know, this is the version of Brittany that was very irritating to me in San Francisco. You know, there was a version that's irritating Digging into my business About my house sale About how I cut my bob But there's also a different version of Britney That really stood up for me And I'm focusing on what I like Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm

19:28Ronnie Karam: So Olivia's like, guys I don't know if you've heard I've never had alcohol Oh my gosh, did we do shots of wine? They're like, oh my god, let's do shots Shots And she does her shot And they're like, are you okay? Oh, actually, it's strawberry-infused tequila. So they're like, how was it, Olivia? How was it? And she's like, that really wasn't bad. Oh, yeah. It wasn't bad at all. You know, you don't really feel it when the gates of hell swing open. You know, slowly you'll start to feel a little vacuuming. And then before you know it, you're just being sucked down into the firing pits of hell. So enjoy it, Olivia.

20:05Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

20:06Ben Mandelker: That's right. Because guess what? in the depths of outer darkness, no one can hear you scream. One more shot. So then Whitney tells us, gives us a little bit of context about what a 21st birthday really is. And she says, my 21st birthday, I was married to my ex-husband who didn't drink and we were doing the Mormon thing. So we probably went to Applebee's, but like the 22nd birthday, I was going through divorce and I met Justin And we were drinking And that's probably how I got pregnant with Bobby Like damn I didn't realize that Whitney was that young When she met Justin That she was 22 I mean she So much makes sense Justin faced me

20:56Ronnie Karam: Yeah last week when she said Justin faced me And I still think that And then we see little pictures of Justin Throughout the episode when they were really young or when she was really young and he was older. And he's wearing like a motorcycle jacket, you know? It's like kind of the Fonz. That was his midlife crisis, like wearing motorcycle jackets and getting with 22-year-olds.

21:22Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It's kind of like if Rudy Giuliani dressed up like the Fonz. It's like, yeah, here we go. So then we come back to the ladies sitting at a table to talk about things. And Bronwyn's saying, you know, how cool it is to see Brittany and Olivia together, because, you know, not everyone gets to do their 21st birthday with their mom, especially if their mom's a raging bitch who has never approved of her existence. I'm not thinking of anyone in particular, but, you know, everything's going to be fine. Everything's going to be fine.

21:52Ronnie Karam: I did get a card. I did get a card from my mother on my 21st birthday, and it said, you will be going to the outer darkness. Love, Muzzy. So, that was... That was fine. It's fine. It's fun to think of this. Thank you for inviting me. Thank you. So there are some boys there and like, oh my God, who are those guys giving, giving Olivia a kiss on the cheek? And Heather's like, she's about to have her first shot and her first threesome.

22:22Ben Mandelker: Bite your tongue. Bite your tongue.

22:25Ronnie Karam: I do every time I talk.

22:29Ben Mandelker: by the way um speaking of mothers this is the first time my mom's ever acknowledged that i'm having sex with somebody you know the other day she said do you really think that you should be having sex with someone that if you're not divorced yet and i was like okay so we're acknowledging that my vagina works and i mean also um you know she lives in a house with Gwen and her boyfriend so like really am i right this is fun for everyone to hear about right isn't it adorable my mother is

22:56Ronnie Karam: and trying to judge sex while walls are pounding all around her. Isn't it cute? And Heather's like, what's going on with your house, by the way? Oh, um, mm-hmm. And this is when Fronwyn, you never know when Fronwyn's telling the truth, because her voice goes up an octave. She's like, oh, mm-hmm. Yeah, my house sold. My house sold. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

23:17Ben Mandelker: It's sold. Brittany's like, what did it sell for? Because she's nosy as fuck. And she's like, well,

23:23Ronnie Karam: it sold for a lot more than I thought it was going to, Brittany. Okay? It's over a lot. A lot more than I thought.

23:29Ben Mandelker: Okay. Did you guys both have to sign the deed? Or no?

23:35Ronnie Karam: Everything's in a trust. So, yeah. Yeah. It was a deed in a trust in a bag, a paper bag with a plastic bag, but you can't have plastic bags. So, we switched to cloth bags. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, guess what, girls? I just realized that Todd still has access to my credit card statement.

23:52Ben Mandelker: Mm-hmm. Oh, crap. What happened, Bronwyn?

23:57Ronnie Karam: he said are you in florida and i said um i'm in florida and he said with who and i said well obviously brendan obviously brendan oh and i met brandon's parents i put that on the credit card slip as well i said listen i know you're not charging me or anything but can you at least put a dollar and just say brandon's parents on there so todd sees it yeah um i wrote a memo on

24:19Ben Mandelker: the credit card statement and i said um this was the amount paid to to travel to visit brandon's parents and afterwards we made out and there was no farting so i don't think that's i'd like that

24:31Ronnie Karam: no um could you guys list your business so it shows up on the credit card as um uh what's his name uh brandon's parents younger than todd could you just say that in the business line

24:45Ben Mandelker: And the entire household Only uses iOS products So he just really didn't like that

24:53Ronnie Karam: So they're like oh my god you met his parents What were you two meeting his parents for He's like yeah yeah Yeah I did meet his parents Like why why would you meet his parents That's so fast I've known Tripp For almost a decade And I haven't even met his parents Didn't you just get Trip off the Angie's list And go on like two dates And then he cheated on you And now you're fucking him ten years later Why would you have met his parents?

25:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you're acting like you've been in a relationship for ten years with him But Bronwyn, not only did she take her new boy toy For an official meet-the-parents visit She did it using Todd's credit card You've been fucking him for like three months, man So, um Yeah, they are now gonna build their case towards Bronwyn Because even though they have a chance to use Bronwyn in an ongoing war with Lisa and Meredith, the truth is I think there is some jealousy that Bronwyn is more famous. She's doing these gigs for the Oscars. She has a hot boyfriend. The audience, by and large, still really likes Bronwyn a lot.

25:55Ben Mandelker: And so that's just not going to stand for Heather. And so the assault is going to begin soon.

26:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So Bronwyn's like, oh, well, don't worry. We're not getting married. We're not getting married. We're not getting married right now. But, you know, it's just fine. And then going to my boyfriend's house. That was fine. And then they were asking us about San Francisco. And I said, oh, Brandon, do you want to tell them about San Francisco? And then Brandon just said something I don't really understand. What did he say? Well, he just, he went into sort of a state and he just started screaming icon over and over and rolling around on the ground. So weird.

26:31Ben Mandelker: and then she's like um she's she starts talking about how like lisa you know lisa and meredith they could have decided not to sing that song that's what he said but after you asked them to stop the first round they didn't you know they didn't have to come back for an encore that's brandon's words not my own and whitney's like girl they sung it more than twice and now we see lisa and meredith like all over sfo like going into every single mcdonald's like hypocrisy and bullshit bullshit hey hey brookston hypocrisy and bullshit bullshit wait there's a hudson news hypocrisy and bullshit bullshit bullshit they're like standing still for the clear thing to scan their faces and they're like hypocrisy and bullshit bullshit lisa's man we can't scan you while you're moving.

27:25Ben Mandelker: She just crawls onto the conveyor belt and goes to the machine. You just see a skeleton looking at TSA going, hypocrisy and bullshit. Bullshit.

27:36Ronnie Karam: They're getting luggage. You just see them sliding down the luggage thing. They just start going around in a circle. Hypocrisy and bullshit.

27:47Ronnie Karam: Well, Ashley was interesting last night because she was It's kind of stuck in the middle of all of this. And that's why for anybody who's like, who's Ashley? And Brom was like, well, the Chinese.

27:59Ben Mandelker: Me too. Pick a name. Pick a name. Pick a name. Ashley or Choir. We can't vacillate like this. She's too new to have two names. Yeah.

28:09Ronnie Karam: Well, at the Chinese restaurant, we left in a weird place of you telling her to be honest. I mean, what the fuck was that about? What the fuck? That was one thing that Brandon's mother had a question about. They were really interested in our drama. You know, she said, what the fuck?

28:22Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And for those who don't remember, this was a really important thing, which is that when Whitney was apologizing to Kwai for betraying her trust, she then was also like, but Kwai, you've also said some things about Meredith. Do you want to say them now? And Kwai was like, I don't think I ever said anything about Meredith. And then Whitney's like, oh, you're going to act like you didn't say anything about Meredith. So that was Whitney apologizing for airing out Kwai's shit while she's airing out new shit for Kwai. So that's the back of the word, just in case you forgot.

28:59Ronnie Karam: And my favorite part of that was Whitney going, you don't remember being in my foyer? She's like, well, I remember being in your foyer. Uh-huh. Told you, everybody. She was in my foyer. So Whitney's telling them, she's lying to all of you. She told me that she sees Meredith, and Meredith is not the same person she knew seven years ago. And she feels like she's strong enough to handle Meredith. And they're like, that's it? That was the shit talking? That's like one of the most. innocent things you can possibly say about another real housewife.

29:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She's like, Heather's like, it's not like Kwai called her diabolical or something. To be fair, she also didn't call you diabolical, but you'll just have to wait until the end of the season to find that out. And then Whitney's like, I'm sorry, I thought you were going to get to know someone I have a lot of history with and that I like. I'm sorry that she's being such a bitch after I talked about all the shit she talked in now doesn't like me anymore.

30:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I wanted to be her friend, but then she lied about me in San Francisco. She lied about you because you were at a table accusing her of doing something.

30:25Ben Mandelker: She was standing up for herself. Yeah, you were supposed to have her back. She was the new one in the group, and you were supposed to have her back, and you brought her in, and then you repeated to everyone the light shade that she was saying at that bar, and you pass it off as if she was being a real nasty biatch. And then now she's on the defense, and now you're going to try to expose her a second time around. So yeah, that's why. And then Whitney goes and hides behind this thing of like, well, but our history with Sherry and Josh, you know, she lied in San Francisco and she doesn't have my back, so why am I trying to have hers?

30:57Ben Mandelker: Almost implying that Kwai is actually the one destroying this sacred bond for Sherry, who passed away. It's like, no, Whitney, you're the one who fucked it up.

31:06Ronnie Karam: Yes, and you have not had her back, so I don't know what you're talking about. I was trying to have her back. So then we go to Mary's Boss Lady Brunch at a place called Marmontania. I thought that it's interesting that it sounds like Mormon. It's like, Marmontania.

31:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It was actually named after someone named Tanya. It's like, oh, there's Mormontania again.

31:30Ronnie Karam: And they're like, can we make this sound a little bit more exotic so we can sell things like tacos? Okay. Spice it up in this town. They're like, okay, marmintana. Marmintana. Perfect. I think about it.

31:43Ben Mandelker: He says a little bit of paprika.

31:45Ronnie Karam: Spice. So we come into this table and it's this nice, big, beautiful table in this beautiful restaurant. And there are all these flower arrangements on the table. And they're little. They're short. They're in like the shit. The shit. The short globe vase thing. and Mary's so merry. She comes in. She's like, hmm, the flower arrangements. I don't know if we can see each other. Can we make them shorter? No, you can't make them shorter. How the hell are you going to make them shorter? They're already in a short globe. What are you going to do? And they just told her, yeah, they just told her, yeah, but they did not make them shorter because I was looking at those flowers and they were still the same size.

32:26They were,

32:27Ben Mandelker: yeah, there's no way you can take that entire row of flowers and shorten them in time. Whatever you need to do, you're not going to be able to do it. So then Mary is explaining that she heard that this trip fell apart and the boss brunch is going to be a way to bring everyone together, reminded that they are boss ladies, so start acting like it. So now Mary tells us

32:51Ronnie Karam: she's like, I'm like a matriarch elephant. You know? Because elephants lead elephants to water. So, wherever that is, I'm leading these ladies. I thought, wow, that's a preacher right there. I will be your elephant leading you to water wherever the water is. I don't know where it is, but I'm an elephant. Got it?

33:16Ben Mandelker: But elephants also stampede, and they killed Mustafa.

33:21Ronnie Karam: And elephants have the longest memory. They killed that old lady in a village who was hitting them with sticks or something and then uh at her funeral they came back and killed everybody at the funeral too so i don't know that i would compare everybody to elephants when you're trying to get them to get along the other thing with elephants is they

33:40Ben Mandelker: always walk into rooms i'm like why are they always in the room um they just love a confined space that's famously elephants love a confined space um so uh meredith and brawin show up everyone says hi and meredith is like how are you and brawn's like oh you know full of hypocrisy and bullshit as always see that's called back look at me fun wacky brawn who wears lots of fun patterns and silly things i can really take a joke yep i really can meredith says well there you go

34:14Ronnie Karam: well you know this is what meredith does she starts some shit and she goes way too far and she just comes over and says hello and no no fuck you fuck you you literally are doing that to

34:25Ben Mandelker: britney right now actively you're like you're like stabbing her and i'm like just kidding oh my god i'll come i'll come to your daughter's 21st birthday um so so then mary's like oh sorry you hurt brawn one she goes oh no i'm done being hurt i'm closed i'm closed obviously okay well you can't be close well i might be i'm closed unlike todd's um credit card for me i'm closed

34:48Ronnie Karam: well there you go and that's your answer she's closed

34:55Ben Mandelker: manipulation Gwai arrives and she's wearing this kind of cream colored ensemble that has like a little pill box hat and it's kind of got drapey aspects it's sort of an interesting fun look but Mary's like quite sweet but she looks like an Emirates airline stewardess I thought we were boarding a plane

35:17Ronnie Karam: and then they put a picture next to a lady in that uniform i was dying she's like i mean are we are we at the right gate i mean what are we even doing here so then angie comes in wearing a sports jacket without a shirt under and then a tie like a bright yellow tie and i think she looks really cute i'm like well that's business you know she's wearing a tie somewhere he's like you wore a tie that's against my rule how do you do that why would you come here in a tie She's like, because I had to. You did not have to come here in a tie. My outfit did not come together. I had to wear a tie. And Mary tells us she didn't listen.

35:54Ronnie Karam: I specifically told everybody, no ties. No ties.

35:59Ben Mandelker: You're right. This is going to go into the case that Mary's going to build. She's not listening to me. She's not talking to me normally. She's wearing a tie. This will be in the flashback when they show why things are not the same as they used to be. So it's going to start with the tie.

36:16Ronnie Karam: And you know, Mary can keep everything going forever. She'll be like, you were serving me plates that you just bought for$4.99. I don't need to see the price of your plates. Then you wore a tie. You wore a tie to my party. I told you no ties. And then everybody else knows about Sean and not me. Are we even friends? Are we even friends right now? And we see a montage of Mary calling every single person going, I'd love you to come to my boss party. No ties. No ties. No ties. Then she writes it in an email. No ties. No ties. No ties.

36:43Ben Mandelker: she was like really into the no tie thing and the thing is this i actually liked angie's fun little you know yellow tie sort of shirtless underneath and angie's like yeah i can't take this off because then i just have boobs just boobs out and i can't do that but um it's also just a weird

36:58Ronnie Karam: mary rule because mary says you know i this is a boss event but we're not men we're women So no ties. But yeah, wear ties.

37:09Ben Mandelker: Has she not watched anything from Lisa Vanderpump in the past seven or eight years? Look at me. I'm in an administrative position, so I should wear a tie. And then in a few years from now, Kyle Richard shall wear a tie also.

37:24Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

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40:21Ronnie Karam: So, Whitney and Heather arrive. Whitney hugs Kwai, and Kwai gives her, like, a little pat. She's like, hello, and then looks elsewhere. And she's like, whatever. I'm not going to fight with Whitney in front of Mary. Brittany comes, and Mary's like, ugh. And she's like, oh, yeah, well, I have no idea where Mary and I stand last year. I've sent her texts and DMs, and I've sent flowers twice. I haven't heard anything back from Mary. And she brought Mary flowers to this. And Mary's like, oh, thank you. These could be flowers, but they're weeds. They're weeds. I hate them.

40:55Ben Mandelker: I hate them. Don't you dare take them away from me. We'll circle back to this later.

41:02Ronnie Karam: Mary having this lunch where she's going to be crying and telling everyone that she's disappointed them because they refuse to be nice to each other. It's like, I fucking hate Brittany and her fucking flowers. I know.

41:13Ben Mandelker: By the way, could they have turned the air conditioner on in this restaurant? they were i mean mary definitely had the biggest shine on her face but they all they all had a film on their faces during this entire scene it was very uncomfortable to watch i felt so bad for them because you know that they're watching it back like oh my god my face was so shiny but seriously that restaurant looked very warm and i just felt like announcing that right now that i did not approve of the climate control at moore montagna so um barlow is powdered for days she was And Meredith. Meredith was like, it looked like a baby.

41:53Ben Mandelker: Like baby skin. A non-sweating baby. A bleary-eyed, non-sweaty baby.

42:02Ronnie Karam: So Heather and Angie go to the side at the bar and are talking about Angie's marriage breaking up. and she's like you know with Sean I think a good day looks like co-existing business fun things dolmas hummus but my life is falling apart and I wouldn't want my daughter to know that your daughter knows that I mean I think your daughter knows Electra's no dummy um and uh Heather's like I feel for you what were you gonna say Ben I said well she will know it

42:37Ben Mandelker: because now it's on TV. Yeah.

42:40Ronnie Karam: I hope no one finds out about my divorce. Did you get that on camera? Should we do it again? So Heather's like, I feel for you. I've been divorced as well. But Angie, nothing in my life would have happened if I stayed married. So get divorced. I wouldn't have started my business. I wouldn't have written the books. I wouldn't have been the mom I wanted to be to my kids. I wouldn't have re-found Trent. I would have just lived a life that wasn't my own.

43:11Ben Mandelker: Could you imagine a life where you don't put on a little beard and say, St. Patrick's Day, I had no idea. Come on, get divorced. Open up the possibilities. So then we go back to the table and Mary is, so again, they're not really sitting just yet, but Mary is, they're sort of mingling first. And Mary sees that Heather and Angie are all the way down having a private talk. And Mary's like, well, why are they all the way down there? And Lisa's like, oh, they're probably just waiting for drinks. And Mary's like, okay, well, I guess we can sit down. But the camera sort of lingers on Mary. I'm telling you.

43:49Ben Mandelker: I hate it. I hate it. I think we can see that this is the end. It's ending. The big fight is happening. It's brewing. Mary's being left out. This is a conversation that Angie should be having with Mary, and she's not. She's having it with Heather.

44:02Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's leaning on somebody else instead of Mary. And it is weird that she's not telling Mary. I get her whole, like, you're going through more than me. But Mary's literally sitting there asking you, what's going on? What's going on? And you're like, nothing. And then she sees you talking to Heather. That's not going to end well. And when Lisa says, you know what? Maybe they're waiting for their drinks. It cuts to Angie and Heather with full drinks in front of them. I know.

44:28Ben Mandelker: But the truth is that, like, you know, Angie, her whole thing is that, like, yeah, what I'm going through with Sean sucks. but Mary's going to do something worse. And I don't want her to have to carry me when I should be carrying you. But I'm like, I think that's actually what Mary wants. I think it's actually a distraction and it gives Mary purpose. I think that's actually Mary's whole thing in life. That's what she loves doing. And so you're kind of like denying her that and she's going to find out.

44:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's like the first lady. So she wants you to come to her with your problems. but also i think and i think there's a part of angie that's probably like well okay who am i going to tell about this someone who's going to tell me to do what i want to do or someone who's going to tell me to stay with sean and work it out mary's going to tell me to stay with sean and work it out heather's going to tell me to you know fuck that guy and get a divorce you know

45:17Ben Mandelker: that's a great point sometimes you know yeah that's such a that is such a good point i didn't even think about that but i think that's probably woven into it which is that she sort of knows what mary's gonna say and she does that's just not what she wants to hear right now right she

45:32Ronnie Karam: doesn't want to make her on camera time like but poor him what's he going through and you know you guys should work it out you've been together for so long she wants to hear fuck that guy and get a divorce which yeah you have to choose you have to choose who you're gonna tell things to and it's smart like i'm not gonna go to my weight watchers lady janelle and be like janelle should i have a bagel today no she's gonna say no you shouldn't i'm gonna say ben should i have a bagel today you're gonna be like yes treat yourself absolutely yeah treat yourself treat yourself the way i

46:02Ben Mandelker: treated myself um so angie and heather are hugging and now they all go to their hot dining room and uh mary announces that robert senior gave them all party favors so they all have their bouquet of flowers each one has their name on it and um mary says personalities too they were all

46:22Ronnie Karam: different flowers and they were based on their personality which i thought was interesting who do you think the birds of paradise were uh birds of paradise i think that she would give to whitney because you're a bird um but robert senior picked him out oh that's why i thought it was kind of weird like robert senior picked birds of paradise and that's a pretty glamorous bird to get somebody. So I think maybe he got Bronwyn that one. And then he got red roses, too, for somebody. So I was like, well, who are the red roses for? I don't know. You read a lot into flowers. And then he gave Mary white roses.

47:03Ronnie Karam: I just feel like

47:05Ben Mandelker: Robert Sr. hasn't been around these women in ages. I don't think he really knows who they are. So I think he probably was like, oh, yeah, that looks nice for her. That looks nice for her. Yeah, go for the birds of paradise. Go for it. Yeah.

47:19Ronnie Karam: so uh mary cannot drink from her glass because they're one of those kind of coop glasses that this is a stupid glass like it curves and then starts going inward and then the rim of the glass is on the inside of the top if that makes any sense so yeah you can't just lift it and sip it you have to lift it and then like put it over your you gotta this is a stupid design for a glass Who made this?

47:45Ben Mandelker: That is stupid. This is stupid, stupid design. I'd love a coupe, though. I wish I had coupes. I don't have any coupes. But it wasn't a traditional coupe.

47:53Ronnie Karam: It went inside. It kept curving like a circle, so you had to kind of tip the glass away and move your... It was like if Whitney designed a coupe.

48:03Ben Mandelker: Yes. That's perfect. It goes in on itself. It's like prism. So Mary explains. explains, Mary tells a very sad story about her family. I mean, her family is, I mean, she, her family life, it was very, very hard growing up and throughout her life. And she talks about how when she had Robert Jr., no one even sent her flowers and she had no help. No one came and supported her. And that basically that when, you know, that when he passed, all these women were right there for her. So like, you know, they really they really filled the gap for her so that's why it's also i think hard for her to watch them all fight because she can see their potential as like loving nurturing souls um but you know hey reality tv destroys everything so they cheers to everything and um and now mary's trying to drink out of that coop and it's it's not going well okay well everybody i just wanted to say i am so sorry

49:08Ronnie Karam: for being publicly intoxicated more than once. I have hurt people, and I've been going through a lot, and I've been very emotional, and I saw that my behavior was not okay. Well, you know what, you keep saying that you're going through a lot, but like, what does that mean? What are you going through, Whitney? It means I have a lot going on in my life right now, and I'm not comfortable sharing it with the group. She gives her one of those squint eyes. Then why do you keep bringing it in? Stop saying you're going through a lot. Stop trying to give yourself an excuse for everything without even going into the excuse.

49:50Ben Mandelker: Well, also stop trying to establish this tone of open heart, sharing what's on the inside, being, here's my honesty, here's my story. We were all here together at this luncheon, and we're going to put the bullshit aside and I'm going to explain the full context of why I've acted certain ways. But she just sort of says, I'm going through a lot, which it's like she says that every reunion. And the thing is this, they all know what it is. So it's like, why are you withholding it? There's an implication that A, we're unsafe, we're nasty. So that's kind of an insult. And B, you also kind of make us want to work for us.

50:28Ben Mandelker: And you can just tell us the way the rest of us have shared things that are going on in our lives. And so Lisa says, when these crutches always say I'm dealing with something, like, oh my God, I'm going through something hard. Like, guess what? I don't believe you. Like, the proof is like never in the pudding, okay? Because if you're going through something hard, here's something that's going through something hard. It's March and you didn't get your invitation to the Oscars this year. That's going through something hard, okay? Not what you're going through.

50:57Ronnie Karam: Mary's like, we're here for you. But you know what, Whitney? When you misbehave in public, they're thinking the whole group's like that. You can't do that. The whole group is like that. Yeah. I don't know what group you think you're in, but the entire group is like that. I heard you, but on that note, I'm really offended for Bronwyn because two of our friends misbehaved in public, and it was very hurtful and deliberately disrespected Bronwyn. Her boyfriend was so upset that he was laughing and rolling around on the floor and asking Meredith and Lisa to sign his boobs.

51:37Ben Mandelker: By the way, it just occurred to me that Angie's outfit is a direct replica of Brandon's outfit from that party, now that I think about it. Open shirt. It is? He was wearing that? He was wearing an open shirt. Well, he had a shirt that was open so you could see his chest buttoned down, and he had a tie that was sort of coming down and covering it. So she's literally going for that same kind of silhouette. Just an observation that I don't know if it's impactful or really means anything, but it's just one of those things where I know someone's going to say, did you see that Angie and Brandon were basically wearing the same outfit?

52:13Ben Mandelker: The answer is yes, I saw it. So Lisa, after Whitney makes this accusation, Lisa's like, well, that's your perspective. And Mary's like, well, I want to know what all of your guys' perspective is. First of all, let me start with the performance. It was not directed at you, Bronwyn.

52:32Ronnie Karam: Oh, oh, oh. You just took over the party right after I gave a toast, after changing my life and inviting you to see my life and to get to know me in front of all the people. Do you want me to finish? Do you want me to finish? Okay, okay. Okay, well, I'm pretty sure it's going to be some hypocrisy and bullshit, but let's do it. Let's go. Okay, that's the second time you're referencing their number one hit single. You're not winning this like you think you are.

52:59Ben Mandelker: It is catchy, isn't it?

53:02Ronnie Karam: Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap. For part two, go look for the recap that says part two.

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