#3615 RHOC S20E19: Farewell to The Snoring 20th - Live in Austin

0:00Ronnie Karam: There is such a better way to spend your time than doom scrolling or watching terrible TV. Get some stories in your life, okay? Audible is perfect for that. I use it while I'm cleaning the house, while I'm running errands. I listen to books all day, every day with Audible.

0:18Ben Mandelker: Yeah, they have a massive library of audiobooks and ad-free podcasts. And it is really the perfect thing to turn on when you're taking a long drive, washing some dishes. Enrich yourself.

0:28Ronnie Karam: New members can start listening with a 30-day free trial at audible.com slash WWC. Sometimes nobody in my group chat watches the show I care about, and that's fine, because r slash television is full of fans who are just as invested as I am. There's always someone ready to celebrate a big move, argue about a blind side, and keep the conversation going long after the episode ends.

0:51Ben Mandelker: Reddit makes every episode more fun. Even when nobody in my everyday life watches, I can always find fans ready to celebrate, debate, and compare reactions.

1:00Ronnie Karam: Different perspectives help me notice more. Fans break down the strategy, rethink a big moment, and explain why they saw a move totally differently than I did.

1:08Ben Mandelker: And the jokes and the shared reactions turn small moments into something the whole community enjoys together. When the season ends, fans, with my taste, help me find the next show that's worth watching.

1:18Ronnie Karam: That's why I turn to my favorite subret, Bravo Real Housewives. It's where I get all of my Housewives news and commentary, breakdowns on episodes, and just to find other people who care about these shows as much as I do.

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1:53Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Who cares what crappens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today momentarily is Mr. Ronnie Karam. we had a tremendous wonderful live show tonight here in Austin Texas and we also had a great one last night in Dallas thanks to everyone who came out for those shows we are now on a small break until early December when we are going to Nashville and Clearwater Florida and Fort Lauderdale Florida all back to back in one week it's gonna be a tremendous time and we hope you join us go to watchrecrappins.com for that thank you so much um the uh the very first part of our recording our real house has a barrage county recording tonight uh when we were just bantering when we came out on stage um got cut off in the recording so the recording kind of like picks up in the middle of our previously on orange county so uh if you're wondering why there's such an abrupt start that's why you know good old-fashioned watcher crappins so uh without further ado let's get back into the live recording of our real housewives of orange county season 20 reunion part two recap thank you everyone i wanted to go see them and unfortunately no one would come with

3:33Ronnie Karam: me you're like oh i'll tell you the best picture nominees are television television or whatever's on television because I have nobody. I am sitting here alone. Wow. Hey, you want to hear the weather? Ah, cloudy with the chance of alone balls. That's what you are.

3:50Ben Mandelker: Hey, Shannon Bot, I have in my fridge, I've got a steak, some tomatoes, some pea pods, and some cornflakes. What sort of dish could I make? Oh, well, you could cook the steak and then throw it out immediately because it's bad for your heart. And then you can take those tomatoes and you can slice them and put them on a plate and just stare at them and remember what it was like to have tomatoes with your ex-husband David. I was like, oh.

4:16Ronnie Karam: Okay. Shannon, how do I get to the beach? Turn left at the slot!

4:24Ronnie Karam: All right, let's get on with it. It is the finale of forever. I mean, look. I don't know. It's the second reunion finale. It's a season 20 finale. Who's going to be back? Who's going to be fired? We don't know, but let's get to the end of Real Housewives of Orange County.

4:46Ben Mandelker: Everyone's like, oh my god, the national grounding of the airplanes, what a disaster. I'm like, hold on, we just went through this season 20 of Orange County. We've been grounded. If you want to talk about something that never took off.

5:01Ronnie Karam: If this show can still fly, so can my plane tomorrow. These ladies find a way to do it Carmella made it I know My plane can make it God bless Carmella barely making it anywhere It's really hard

5:18Ben Mandelker: Carmella is like the personification Of nationwide FAA grounding Sorry everyone All the planes won't be leaving It's been really hard My plane has a lot of anxiety right now

5:37Ben Mandelker: Sorry.

5:40Ronnie Karam: Previously, I'm the real housewife of Orange County.

5:47Ronnie Karam: It's me, Vicki Gumbelson. Back for the 20th season. It's going to be great TV.

5:53Ben Mandelker: Hey, Vicki, you want to come on a trip?

5:56Ronnie Karam: No.

5:57Ben Mandelker: You want to go to dinner? No. You want like a snack or something? No. What do you want, Vicki?

6:03Ronnie Karam: I want to write an email. I want to write an email! Give me an email! Oh.

6:09Ben Mandelker: Well, as long as you're writing an email, feel free to CC me on that email, or BCC, or just see. I just want someone to see me.

6:20Ronnie Karam: Oh, gosh, Shannon, aren't you so sad you're single? You're so long. Poor Shannon. Oh, I love Shannon.

6:28Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you're, like, so single. Like, we feel bad for you. Like maybe you can date that actor from the 80s And then you can be like rich and happy And like you know things like that Cause like I invented real estate And bought a mini book bag

6:45Ronnie Karam: I really feel for you Shannon Oh hey guys wanna hear my new tagline I may have lost weight But it doesn't mean I've gained any personality

6:59Ronnie Karam: I made a steak for Shane

7:02Ben Mandelker: Ooh, ooh. Was your steak in the upstairs penthouse or the downstairs penthouse?

7:10Ronnie Karam: For season 20, they brought in a really exciting new person. It's me, Carmela.

7:19Ben Mandelker: You don't even live here.

7:21Ronnie Karam: Yes, I do. I live in Santa Rancho Ranch with my boyfriend and my kids.

7:27Ben Mandelker: Well, you're a terrible mother. You don't even raise your children.

7:30Ronnie Karam: Stand! Down, Vicky. Stand down. We do not talk about trashy mothers just because they live far away.

7:44Ben Mandelker: Hey, hey, they're called Carmella trash.

7:48Ronnie Karam: It's true. Carmella, I did call you trash. What I should have called you was recyclable materials.

7:59Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah? Well, she's going to get a real piece of my mind. Okay, ready? Here we go. Thanks for telling me that, Heather.

8:09Ronnie Karam: Hi, it's me, Jen Pedrotti. I'm still on the show. Hi. Hi.

8:14Ben Mandelker: Get a story down, Jen.

8:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah, well, one of my children tried to burn down Orange County. Does that not count? Gotta do.

8:23Ben Mandelker: Hey, Vicki, why did you talk about my daughter hating me on your podcast five years ago?

8:28Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah, well, Tamara, you said I'm with a man who's emotionally abusive.

8:32Ben Mandelker: And you made me sleep in a hotel room next to an elevator.

8:35Ronnie Karam: And you said Gina's too poor to buy 19 fannies.

8:38Ben Mandelker: I was never poor, and I never lived in a casino.

8:44Ronnie Karam: Oh, Gina. You've always been poor. Rer than me.

9:02Ben Mandelker: And scene.

9:07Ben Mandelker: Welcome to Watch Your Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about.

9:15Ronnie Karam: How many people in here have actually been watching Orange County this season? That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Unfortunately, she said. You know what? You're going to appreciate this in a few years when things are even worse. That's how I feel about so many problems, especially this show. Do you remember the pandemic? I mean, I know I keep saying pandemic. I'm so sorry. But when that was going on and they had the pandemic season, it was like shot on people's phones. And it was just so bad. And we're like, this season sucks. I look at that now as like a classic season of this. It's like we didn't appreciate what we had.

9:52Yeah.

9:52Ben Mandelker: Sometimes the really bad seasons are so bad, but there's something really bonding and fun about us all hating it together. So there's a nice upside to it. But luckily we have this really unexciting reunion to finish it off. But it's fun for us because these are our favorite voices. And this is our last time we get to do it in 2026, perhaps ever. Who knows?

10:15Ronnie Karam: It's the last time we might ever get to do Carmella.

10:19Ben Mandelker: It's too bad. That gives me so much anxiety thinking about being a last time.

10:24Ronnie Karam: Well, tonight, the reunion concludes, ladies. All right. How long have these people been producing this show? We know. It's 20 years, these Real Housewives shows. They have a fucking waterfall behind them. They turned it off for most of this. But then in the last segment, you just hear... You're on television.

10:48Ben Mandelker: That was funny because I did hear that noise. I was like, God, that grotto is making so much noise. And then I just realized it was the sound of the last bits of air leaving the season.

11:00Ben Mandelker: So, Gina, Angela, and Angie Town said you wondered if your relationship with Heather was fake after hearing that she was using Carmella as a realtor behind your back. What did you think about that?

11:16Ronnie Karam: Just that whole sentence. Poor Andy. Like what Andy has to go through. I know. All right, so you're mad because she's fake, because you're a realtor, but she got another realtor, and there was a house that she was showing somebody that you didn't get to see. Turn on the waterfall. Turn on the waterfall.

11:35Ben Mandelker: Here's... I know, seriously. Here's a better way to phrase that question. Gina, last year you got mad that Heather thought you were using her for her real estate connection. So why this year were you mad about her not using you for real estate?

11:50Ronnie Karam: Exactly.

11:52Ben Mandelker: Even I can't follow my own thing. I don't even know what I was saying.

11:55Ronnie Karam: So Gina's like, yeah, well, like, do I understand that, like, geographically, like, maybe I'm not the choice because, like, I'm not in Rancho Santa Ranch, but, like, it hurt my feelings. It really hurt me. It really hurt.

12:09Ben Mandelker: But honestly, the mean things that you have said about me, Gina.

12:15Ronnie Karam: Who said mean things about me?

12:17Ben Mandelker: Oh, no. That was just like rich people talk. Like, oh, look at the poor girl with the tiny backpack.

12:25Ronnie Karam: You took a shot at my engagement ring. You took a shot.

12:28Ben Mandelker: Oh, well, you said it was fake. So I said, oh, good. I could see the rainbows coming through your plastic ring. It's a joke.

12:38Ronnie Karam: It's not funny calling someone's ring a rainbow, Heather. Okay, and I can take a joke. I know jokes. I know comedy, Heather.

12:45Ben Mandelker: No, you were not in the groundlings. I know a joke. Here's a joke. Hey, Gina, stop licking your ring. It's not a popsicle. That's a joke. Alfredo? Did they let Alfredo into this theater?

13:01Ronnie Karam: Wow, is there someone to pick up that gum off the street? whoop, never mind. Gina's children are fighting over who gets to chew it.

13:10Ben Mandelker: Could someone pass me that donut? Oops, sorry, didn't realize that was your ring. Who had a donut?

13:18Ronnie Karam: Who had a donut here?

13:22Ben Mandelker: So Gina's furious that Heather made a joke about her ring and Gina's like, but you know...

13:28Ronnie Karam: We all made jokes about your ring. And I'm a gay person. I love rainbows.

13:37Ben Mandelker: like mentally i'm like okay ring camera joke you can do this ben ring camera joke so then gina's like you know what i got a sense of humor okay she's like no you don't because you went on the last episode and you said well heather has the sparkliest thing in the world but no one wants to be friends with her and that wasn't nice but that was a joke are are you literally crazy are you now gonna do the it was a joke defense when you just got so mad at heather for doing it was a joke thing?

14:04Ronnie Karam: Yeah, no one can take a joke. You know, I can't take a joke when they're aimed at me either, but I'll make fun of your ass all day. Don't say anything about me. I'll cry like a little baby. And that's how they are too. They're like, you made fun of my ring. Your ring is ugly. And even the one that's a real diamond is somehow ugly.

14:20Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Why does your ring have shoulder pads?

14:24Ronnie Karam: So it's not the fakeness, it's the shape, you know? You can buy a more expensive ring, but can you buy taste?

14:31Ben Mandelker: maybe honestly I think it was all worth it this like hypocrisy of the like the joke with hypocrisy and bullshit bullshit bullshit it was all worth it just so Heather could say my favorite line of 2026 which is you know what I totally get that because it probably takes someone I don't know secure and strong and successful to be my friend and maybe that's not you

14:58Ronnie Karam: she really gagged her with that one. I know. And I don't usually use that term because I feel like people are like, oh my god, gagged. I'm like, well, I don't get that. Who wants to be gagged, you know? But she was. She was like, ah, ah, ah. I got it. I finally got it. So Emily's like, see, I got one prepared already.

15:17Ben Mandelker: Even if she did, I don't care. It was really good. And especially I like when she did the thing with the hand. I don't know if she actually did this, but in my mind Heather just put her hand out forward and just pushed her down like, okay, I'm putting you into the trash can now. No whammies, no whammies No whammies, whammies Maybe that's not you And I love Gina sitting there With her pink ass makeup What was going on with that? I'm sorry

15:42Ronnie Karam: Shannon and Gina All three of them Gina's was pink eyeshadow But it was also connected to pink cheeks

15:50Ben Mandelker: Were they auditioning for Moulin Rouge afterwards? What was happening?

15:54Ronnie Karam: Looked like a lot of people not washing their hand After they go poo poo It was very dangerous. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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19:35Ronnie Karam: I give it one week before Ben's arranging those samples like a reunion seating chart. That's what I say. So Gina's like Oh my god, I can't believe you would say something like that to me And Heather's like Okay, well Welcome to being friends with someone richer than you You can't afford to come back to this Gina And Emily's like You're so low God, every season we say we can never go up against her Because we never win You win every time And here you are and so she didn't even have to say anything all she said was you're poor and you guys can't even do anything

20:16Ben Mandelker: it was like Gargamel getting angry at the Smurfs like ah

20:22Ronnie Karam: dumb kids you darn kids so Emily's like oh Scooby Doo, it was Gargamel and Scooby Doo you darn kids

20:31Ben Mandelker: darn Heather we can't even, we always are saying that we can't, anytime we go up against you we always lose and Heather's like oh, so you do talk about me off camera. I was like, yes, Heather. Yes, do it.

20:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah, well, you know, I mean, I'm not saying much, but, you know, Heather did say something really mean about Heather. I don't know what you're saying about it. I've been going, oh, really? Well, we've, listen, Carmella, okay, I did say mean things about Carmella, okay? I called you trashy. Said you live too far. I mean, listen, a lot of people come on our show for the wrong reasons. What are the right reasons? I don't know.

21:14Ben Mandelker: Listen, it's a big, big misunderstanding. I simply was saying for such a show about poor people, they're already doing a lot coming north to me. Why would they go in the opposite direction for someone trashy?

21:28Ronnie Karam: Heather's argument is so funny. She's like, I don't even live here anymore. I moved to L.A., which is like two or three hours away. and now you live another hour and we don't even know you. Why should I have to drive for you? I like that. I like a good distance argument. It's not even about being poor or trashy. She's just like, I don't want to drive to you. Sorry.

21:48Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's like at least if you drive up to me, you get to be in Beverly Hills. If I drive down to you, I am near all of your trash.

21:56Ronnie Karam: Wait a minute, so you're calling her trashy or you're saying it's geographical? What is it? Geograph Geography Hey, hey, hey Geography

22:08Ben Mandelker: Hey

22:08Ronnie Karam: Damn it, you always win

22:10Ben Mandelker: Hey, hold on I want to hear from Carmella on this Carmella, what do you have to say? Well, I just don't understand at this point I mean, that's how you feel Like, what are you saying to me? I don't know I just have a lot of anxiety And I just don't want to get on a plane right now Which is why I'm happy they're grounded

22:27Ronnie Karam: They're trying so hard And they keep saying Heather, why aren't you just honest about your feelings? How much more honest do you want the woman to be? She's like, yes, I did call you trashy. Yeah, I called you gross. Yeah, I said I didn't want you on the show. I told the producers. And I stand by it. You live far. They're like, be more honest.

22:47Ben Mandelker: Emily is trying to nail Heather down about this. Like, you said that she was trashy, and then you were nice to her face. I'm like, I only want housewives that call people trashy behind their backs and are nice to their face. I don't see the problem here.

23:03Ronnie Karam: So Heather's like, whoa, whoa, those are two separate conversations. The trashy conversation was on one day. Then I said she doesn't belong on the show another day.

23:19Ronnie Karam: Cornelis is like, wait a minute.

23:22Ben Mandelker: Hey, by the way, is Heather the first person to ever judge somebody? I mean, let's get real, guys. I can't even finish.

23:30Ronnie Karam: Heather won't take any responsibility. And you're like, you're so concerned about your image and how you look. She's like, mm. Carmella, I would like to confess. I called you trashy. I said, be honest!

23:46Ben Mandelker: It just makes me think about a few years ago when Tamara kept telling us that Heather called us losers. And Heather's like, oh, I never called you losers. I called you poor and stupid and idiotic, annoying, shouldn't be on the show. But I never called you losers.

24:03Ronnie Karam: I remember that because I remember hearing, oh my God, Tamara said that Heather called Gina and Emily losers. And I just went, hear, hear. Yeah.

24:13Ben Mandelker: Did anyone disagree?

24:14Ronnie Karam: I remember throwing my hands up like I was on a roller coaster. Like, what?

24:21Ben Mandelker: So Andy's like, well, do you think that you're someone who admits when you're wrong, Heather? She's like, well, I mean, I think I try to. Sometimes it's hard to admit when you're wrong. Luckily, I'm never wrong, so it works out pretty well.

24:34Ronnie Karam: Admittedly, I admit that I'm never wrong. So we've got that. It just feels like everybody's waiting for me to trip or to fart or to burp or to do something disgusting.

24:46Ben Mandelker: Or get cast in Chicago. I don't know, maybe win an Emmy. Everyone's waiting.

24:51Ronnie Karam: It's like you need me to water myself down or something. so I can be more acceptable to you.

24:57Ben Mandelker: No, I just want you to be real so I know who I'm dealing with. You're dealing with a very rich lady. That's what you're dealing with right now.

25:04Ronnie Karam: You're dealing with a person who thinks you're a loser. And they've said it year after year, and they're not wrong.

25:11Ben Mandelker: And she's trying to spare your feelings, and you keep pushing her so that way she'll finally say, you know what, you are a loser. And then when she does that, you're going to say, I can't believe you called me a loser. Don't ask stupid questions. Don't ask. Just don't ask. stupid answers.

25:25Ronnie Karam: There's a Reddit called, what is it called? It's like, tell me off or something. They put their picture and they're like, flame me or something. Yeah, flame me. And people are like, you're ugly! What is it? Roast me. Thank you. Oh, that sounds delicious. It's terrifying. Who does that? And they're like, alright, go ahead. Roast me. You're ugly. You're stupid. You're like, uh-uh. Why would Emily say it? Don't ask Heather what her inner voice is saying. okay it's not gonna go in your favor no i like earlier when when uh heather is like yeah i said carmella's trash and she looks smart carmella goes well i mean i just wish you would have told me that why wouldn't you just say that to my face and heather goes why would i say that to your face

26:12Ben Mandelker: heather is the only one who's like what are these people saying why are they asking these stupid questions all she like Heather just seeing Heather have to like do her time and like hope that next year is the year she gets on Beverly Hills it's just she's not I'm sorry I think you've got the

26:28Ronnie Karam: stink of OC on you that's just it you're not gonna be on Beverly Hills those ladies are like ew like how Heather looks down on everybody else the Beverly Hills ladies look that way at Heather I know.

26:42Ronnie Karam: So Andy's like, okay, where, all right, where we go from here, guys? Heather, Emily, where we go? And Emily's like, well, she said that our relationship was irreparable, so I don't know where we go. I mean, the way I look at it, it's just I would never talk to her again. I can't believe she would call this irreparable. Like, well, what are you calling it?

27:03Ben Mandelker: Well, I said I was worried about that because, you know, here's the thing, Emily. I find you confusing. Here's why. Because you're on TV.

27:16Ben Mandelker: I'm confused by that. Well, I find you confusing. And my takeaway is, I don't know if that's someone I want to invest a lot of time in or have trust with. So you know what? When you say irreparable, that's bad. That means that's not worth trying to fix. Oh, you really think I'm going to be friends with you after filming is done? Yeah, exactly. That's adorable.

27:36Ronnie Karam: You think I don't know what irreparable means? So then they go on break, and Gina's like, Oh my God, that was my zombie. My zombie.

27:49Ben Mandelker: Like, I didn't even fucking do anything to her. She did things to me. I'm just like a nice person wearing a miniature beac beac.

27:57Ronnie Karam: And Carmella's making small talk with Heather, and she's like, Heather, do you understand understand that like the reason that like i came on this show is because i had fucking issues and i like need to work them out like i've had a lot of issues out there it's like i don't know what you're saying but i hear a voice coming from somewhere and it sounds trashy and i just want to say welcome welcome trash i actually heather says this she goes you know what i hear you and

28:30Ben Mandelker: I love you as a mother and I love your children. And that's where you turned for me when I met your kids. Because before then I was like, oh god, look at this slut. Oh, she has children. It wasn't anything to do with Carmela. Nothing to do with Carmela and her personality. She saw the kids and goes, oh shit, her kids are going to see this.

28:49Ronnie Karam: They do that a lot on this show and in this episode in particular. They're like, you're a bitch. But I love you as a mother. You do a great job.

28:58Ben Mandelker: And then there was, yeah. and then and then there's and then there's what I thought was so funny so Heather's like smoothing things over with Carmela like look like I said this but I feel really bad whatever she's just you know she's on the same sofa and then over at the other the other one Gina turns Emily goes oh my god and now look at Heather she's trying to make it better over there but says nothing to me why would she ever say anything to you you've been wretched to her for years and not funny while you do it either well I mean so there's no reason for it ever go over to you

29:29Ronnie Karam: She's just mad at it so much. She's like, oh my God, we told Carmella that Heather said mean things, and now Heather's trying to make it nice with Carmella. What a pig. That's what you're supposed to do is be nice. What the hell? So now we're coming back, and Vicky's still sitting there like, email, email. Vicky, please put down your phone. I will. I just need to add one thing. BCC. Property damage. Property damage. Okay. I'm good. Give me something to put my leg up on.

29:58Ben Mandelker: Well, guess what? I think I, too, received an email, and it looks like I have received a star from Starbucks. And any refresh? Nope, just a Starbucks robo. Would you like to use seven points for this single shot of espresso that you'll be drinking alone for the rest of your life? Ladies, City Advantage has emailed me and they want to know if I'd like to elevate my travel experience. Oh, maybe I will.

30:32Ronnie Karam: Maybe I will. Test. Text back stop to stop or report. No, do not stop. Do not stop. More communication.

30:46Ben Mandelker: Am I the only one who takes things out of their spam filter? No.

30:52Ronnie Karam: Bless her heart.

30:55Ben Mandelker: Bless her heart. In the nice way. We love Shannon.

30:59Ronnie Karam: People who aren't from here or the South think that bless your heart only means, mean, like, what a idiot. That's not always what it means. It also means, like, you know, bless her heart. Fucking idiot. I mean, I guess there's still, like, an underlying, damn. I don't know.

31:18Ben Mandelker: I reserve the bless your heart for whoever did her hair. So Andy is like... All right, 20 years in, the Real Housewives of Orange County is cross-generational. It's a cross-generational phenomenon. The kids love it. Of all the franchises, the kids on Orange County have turned out the best. Let's take a look.

31:36Ronnie Karam: Cross-generational, it's just going everywhere. My niece was like, Harry Styles or Real Housewives of Orange County reunion. So now we're talking about their kids. not going well, really, for anybody. Let's be honest. This was a very positive segment. Like, look, it's mothers! And I was like, let's not go too deep here.

32:01Ben Mandelker: Not going well. Well, I have great news, everyone. Sophie is writing some chiclet. It's about how to survive your parents' divorce.

32:12Ronnie Karam: Yikes. Can't wait to read that one. Sophia's slant on the David and Shannon breakup. Yikes.

32:22Ben Mandelker: Yikes. Can't wait to read it. It's a lot of dark stuff.

32:26Ronnie Karam: It's been a long time that she's been writing that, right? Because wasn't that like two years ago where she's like, Mom, I'm writing a book. She's like, oh my god, Sophie! And then Heather's like, my child's already written three books. All of them about bisexuality. What is yours about? It's like, well, divorce. Oh, good luck.

32:45Ben Mandelker: that's a number one bestseller in Rancho Santo Rancho. So Andy's like, Heather, did your mom watch this season? She's like, well, she watches selective scenes. Basically, when I tie her to a chair and make her watch the pain, she inflicts it on me as a child.

33:01Ronnie Karam: You know that mother watches every single, and Andy's like, she only watches her own scenes. Of course it's Carol. So Heather's like, yeah, she was very, very upset because there was a scene with me and Terry. we had a beautiful conversation about when you become a certain age how you have to become parents to your parents and how much you hate them and want to push them down the stairs it's a beautiful moment

33:26Ben Mandelker: we did see a flashback of my favorite little scene where Heather's like when I was a child growing up I would cry at the movies and everyone in my family would laugh at me and then later I found out I wasn't just talented I was smart

33:42Ronnie Karam: Heather paints herself as like, oh my god, I'm really this sensitive person, but my mother won't let me be sensitive. Heather, you are a fucking robot, and I want to see clips of you crying in a movie, because I just don't believe it. This is so sad. What is happening to Julia Roberts?

34:04Ronnie Karam: They were laughing at you because you look crazy trying to cry in Pretty Woman.

34:09Ben Mandelker: Yeah, what movies does Heather cry at, if you really think about it?

34:12Ronnie Karam: She doesn't cry in a movie. Unless there's someone poor in front of her. She's like, ah!

34:18Ben Mandelker: She just misunderstands all the movies. That was so sad when they killed that poor woman on top of the building. Like, you mean Zool and Ghostbusters? Oh, it was terrible. Deep cut, deep cut, guys.

34:32Ronnie Karam: I just thought it was so sad that somebody came to this earth and they were already suffering from food addiction. just following one piece of candy to the next piece of candy to the next piece of candy. That was E.T., Heather. Okay, so hang on. I feel things. Okay, so she's like, yeah. You know, and then my mother complained, and she said, what? You didn't get hugged enough? There weren't enough hugs to satisfy you, Heather. And Emily's like, well, my mom was the opposite. My mom was so lovey-dovey. She just gave me all the... What the fuck? Where did that come from? Have you forgotten your own storyline?

35:11Ronnie Karam: You've been bitching about your mother for years.

35:13Ben Mandelker: And all of a sudden, my mom was lovey-dovey. The only thing was, there wasn't food on the table. I was like, where did this come from?

35:21Ronnie Karam: I'm not sad, but I just remember Emily being like, my mom was terrible. And then she even had her mom on. Remember when she had her mom come? And her mom's like, hi, Emily. What's up, Emily? It's like, you were so mean to me. I remember you didn't even like talking to me. She's like, well.

35:39Ben Mandelker: Her mom's wearing a Team Heather sweatshirt. Yeah, exactly. So then Andy's like, okay, well, in other news, after the show wrapped, Jen, your son Dom was involved with a brush fire. What's going on there? And Jen has the most Jen answer, which is like, you know, he's just been having a hard time. I've really missed so much. I just can't believe how much I missed.

36:01Ronnie Karam: That's just going to be your tagline. You know, Dom, he did start a fire. It was just so crazy. I didn't even see anything going on with Dom. But then it happened. I smelled it. I smelled it before I saw it. It was pretty crazy. It was a neighborhood. It was a lot going on. I didn't even know Dom was upset. You know what is so crazy? This is everybody brace yourself. I learned that in a divorce, the two people getting divorced, they have trouble. But also, the kids. The kids also suffer. Isn't that funny? No one told me. No one told me.

36:34Ben Mandelker: I don't know how I missed it.

36:35Ronnie Karam: Her absolute shock is hilarious. And Andy's like, uh-huh. Okay.

36:41Ben Mandelker: I don't know. When I went to Dom's room and he had all those matches and gas and a map of the local park, and I thought, that's so nice that he's collecting things. He's got a hobby. I don't know how I missed it. I don't know how I missed it.

36:54Ronnie Karam: You know, his favorite gift I ever gave him was a little magnifying glass, and he would take that outside and he would...

37:01Ben Mandelker: Just don't know how I missed it.

37:02Ronnie Karam: Just focus it on a leaf. What a talented, talented guy.

37:07Ben Mandelker: It's just so hard when you're a mom. Talented kid. It's so hard.

37:11Ronnie Karam: So then Andy's like, wow, okay. Shannon, I'm so sorry about Archie. And she's like, oh, God. And you know, of course. Yeah. I was like, please don't do this forever. I'm covering Bueller's eyes. Like, no. And she's like, well, I do. You know, everybody's been so lovely to me. And I do have to say thank you to Tamara, who brought me a statue. I think it was of a pug but I'm calling it a golden retriever and just saying thank you for your sensitivity you know still had the HomeGoods sticker on the bottom I appreciate it and Tamara's like yeah I know what exactly it's a dog remember when I lost my dog it was so good oh by the way you want to show pictures of my new puppy that I just got so many so I don't know

38:00Ben Mandelker: I think obviously like our hearts are all broke about Archie. And then it's very nice that Tamara gave her this gift. Although, I'm not going to lie, I thought the statue of a golden retriever with a woman next... I don't know why, getting that from Tamara, I just feel like Tamara's like, those are actually my boobs. Oh, I thought it was a statue. And now just two boobs. Just two boobs.

38:20Ronnie Karam: Well, but also just because... This is so rude. I mean, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. But it wasn't my gift, so I'm allowed to diss it, right? If you give somebody a statue, you should give them a statue of their dog. Like, golden retrievers aren't all the same. I feel like this is not a very nice gift. Like, I'm giving you a statue of somebody else's golden retriever. I want a statue, and me, it's probably Tamara next to some random golden retriever.

38:45Ben Mandelker: I have to say also, I'm just kind of like done with statues, because I think it's been, like...

38:52Ronnie Karam: Wow, I thought I went low. You're just taking down all the statues.

38:56Ben Mandelker: I guess here's why I was, like, I was sort of cringing at this, because I think it's been about two or 300 years since there's been a statue that looks like the subject. And like modern, you guys know, modern like 21st century statues are all wrong. Like there's like a crazy one of Dwayne Wade somewhere. Anytime they reveal like, and here's a statue to commemorate, it's always like, and I'm like, the craftsmanship around statues has gone downhill. So I feel like if, like, especially if Tamra's sourcing it, I just feel like a Tamra-sourced grief statue is going to look crazy and I don't want it in my home.

39:31Ronnie Karam: Okay, good. Thank you.

39:33Ben Mandelker: Thank you. Thank you for your support on that, Austin.

39:36Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Thank you. So then they ask Emily, like, how are your, because, you know, it's the parenting thing. So they're like, how are your kids? She's like, mostly great, but Luke still sucks. Now he's got something else. Jeez. So she updates him. Luke has, you know, he's got more. He's got a lot going on, poor kid, you know. And she's like, oh, I can't even do anything. and I'm like, it sucks. We don't even get to go on family vacation. The only vacation I get to go on are when my girlfriend's to get drunk. There's no kids there. I was like, you're the only mother who's complaining like this. I know.

40:10Ronnie Karam: Everyone else is like, I'm not going on vacation with my kids. Fuck yeah. Where's the wine, bitch?

40:18Ben Mandelker: Tamara's like, hey, Emily, I got you a statue of me on vacation.

40:26Ronnie Karam: I got you a statue of me with somebody else's kid. Let's just pretend you're going to get it. All right. That was a great segment. No, no, no. No, no. Don't you go past this segment because I have something to say. I have a podcast and I know famous people and I know Lisa Rinna, a very famous housewife. And she was saying that she can talk to you about your son's disease. Did you talk to her about that? She's like, um, thanks, Tamara. Yeah, I know Lisa Rinna. Also, I've had a dog that passed away as well. Okay. Okay, we're not talking to you right now, Tamara.

41:00Ben Mandelker: What did the Lisa Rinna, like, panda consolation call sound like? Hey, how are you? My daughter had panda too, and she owned it, baby.

41:15Ronnie Karam: My entire family has been avoiding Panda Express for years.

41:22Ben Mandelker: I'm Lisa fucking Rinna, and I'm here to tell you about Panda Spot. What everybody wants when they get serious health news.

41:31Ronnie Karam: A call from Lisa Rinna explaining it.

41:34Ben Mandelker: She's just on her phone reading about it like she did Munchausen's. Pandas.

41:41Ronnie Karam: Pandas by proxy. Lisa Vanderbilt made me say that. And he's like, okay, well this season Vicky's been miserable. Vicky. Remember, hey, Vicky, remember when you told Jen, the dumb-dumb, that the only reason you're mean to her is because she's low-hanging fruit? Oh, my God. Now we get an hour of Jen going, what did you mean by that? Low-hanging fruit? What did that mean? What did that mean? I thought fruit came in a box. That is crazy. What is low-hanging fruit? That's crazy.

42:13Ben Mandelker: I can't even believe I didn't even see the signs that I was on a tree.

42:16Ronnie Karam: Well, I couldn't see it. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I had no idea. And then before you know it, I fell to the ground. I fell to the ground. I started rolling.

42:23Ben Mandelker: as a fruit bush.

42:24Ronnie Karam: A worm started eating through my head. And then my son came up to me with a magnifying glass and burned a hole right through me.

42:30Ben Mandelker: And I said, thank you so much. Thank you so much. So, Vicky's like, I mean, there are times when I play, and he goes, it seems like you played the victim. She's like, yeah, I do. Sometimes I do play the victim. Thank you. I'm Jesus Christ. Thank you. Yeah.

42:41Ronnie Karam: Let me tell you who played the victim. Jesus Christ. You played the victim. Look at me. I'm on a cross. Do you remember when Vicky was like, everyone's being mean to me. I'm like, Jesus Christ, I'm on a cross. Like, you never gave people fish and loaves and wine. You didn't have the nice part of Jesus Christ, Vicky. Is that like

43:01Ben Mandelker: the softer side of Sears? The nice part of Jesus Christ. So then Jen is like...

43:08Ronnie Karam: The field of cotton. The fabric of our life. That's been on my mind all weekend. I've been singing that weird Really? The Aaron Neville

43:18Ben Mandelker: cotton song? Am I just conflating pop culture now?

43:23Ronnie Karam: Well, he's on posters everywhere, you know, because we're in Austin. So they're like, oh, Aaron Neville.

43:29Ben Mandelker: Guys, our podcast has now turned into AI Slop. You know, Aaron Neville.

43:35Ronnie Karam: Oh, sorry. Go ahead. No, I was just going to talk about AI Slop because we were in Austin one time when like chat GPT and stuff started becoming popular. And Ben's like, look what this does. You can tell it, create a Watch What Crappens podcast about this guacamole. and so it prints this thing and it sends it to us then the mail arrived and it's like whoa girl what is this guacamole why is it green is it a salad I was like so embarrassingly true

44:11Ben Mandelker: in the voice of watcher crappens it was like what about a sassy night of guacamole statues am I right

44:18Ronnie Karam: yeah well yeah I've got a problem with avocados. A long time issue. It's like, oh, geez. That was so embarrassing. So anyway. Clocked our asses. So Vicky's like, I don't care, Chad. You know what? You're mad at me? Like, who cares? Why are you even on this show? You're dumb. You're low hanging fruit. My knee hurts.

44:37Ben Mandelker: Put my back on. You know what? Your response is always like, I don't care. I don't need you to know about you. I don't care about this. I don't care about this. I don't care about you. And by the way, thank you so much. Thank you for the response. I really appreciate it.

44:46Ronnie Karam: I was just saying that because you came to my house with Lakita. got my boyfriend there. You guys are asking me questions. You're asking me questions about my guy. Like he's not a good guy. And I was attacked. I was personally attacked.

44:56Ben Mandelker: It was a dual conversation though. Dual. It was a dual conversation.

44:59Ronnie Karam: It was not dual.

45:00Ben Mandelker: Hey, I'm a lawyer. I'll talk. But if you don't talk at all, that burdens us to put the burdens on us to be the ones to initiate a conversation. And every time we try to initiate a conversation, you don't want to reciprocate at all. Who wants to reciprocate with Emily's conversation starters? Nobody, Emily.

45:15Ronnie Karam: This is how you are. Even when you go, you know, you give your ticket to a trained person. You say, how are you? How was your day? And they're just like, go! Just go! You're Emily!

45:25Ben Mandelker: But then Jen says a thing that a lot of people have been saying. She's like, well, honestly, Vicky, you pride yourself on your work ethic, and this is a job as well. And Vicky's like, I know that, Jen! I know that! I know that! Do you? It's like, of course, I go, do you? Do you know that? She's like, actually, I didn't know that until I said it. And then I realized, oh, it is a job.

45:42Ronnie Karam: Of course I know this is a job. I was living in a parking lot before we started shooting. Yes, I know.

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46:13Ronnie Karam: Now they're asking you to show up for real. Make a gift today at PlannedParenthood.org slash defend. Then go tell the group chat about it. There is such a better way to spend your time than doom scrolling or watching terrible TV. Get some stories in your life, okay? Audible is perfect for that. I use it while I'm cleaning the house, while I'm running errands. I listen to books all day, every day with Audible.

46:41Ben Mandelker: Yeah, they have a massive library of audiobooks and ad-free podcasts. And it is really the perfect thing to turn on when you're taking a long drive, washing some dishes. Like, enrich yourself.

46:51Ronnie Karam: New members can start listening with a 30-day free trial at audible.com slash WWC. So Andy's like, well, this is coming from Tyson from Chicken Vicky. Seems like you're always worried that the girls are going to talk about Mike. And then Mike's going to get upset. Are you afraid of Mike? What's going on with the chick? I'm not afraid of Mike. Everyone stop asking me if I'm afraid of Mike. I'm not afraid of him.

47:20Ben Mandelker: Also, I just want to remind everyone, do not say his name three times in front of a mirror. Bad things will happen.

47:26Ronnie Karam: But, you know, I mean, it does make me wonder, does he mind you being on the show? No, he does not mind me being on the show. It's just when I'm on the show, he says, do not go in front of that camera. Do not touch with those ladies. Get off the game. He's got an email right now. It said, Mike, you shut up. You stop talking about this show right now.

47:42Ben Mandelker: You know what, Andy? When I divorced Dom, I had two. I thought they were really good relationships, but then I lost them. And God was watching over me. God was looking out for me in those moments. But I don't want the show to divide my relationship with Michael. Because if we break up, I'm out of shots is what I'm saying. He's the last thing I got.

48:01Ronnie Karam: But how are you going to say God was looking out for you? You were with Brooks. You were faking cancer with Brooks. You're lucky God wasn't looking out for you because your ass would have been lightninged. So I forgot. So I lied about having cancer. God wanted me to have a casserole. It's a long road. So Andy's like, well, is there going to be a fork in the road where you have to choose between your relationship with this grumpy old man or your TV show? It's like, oh, he would never make me choose. He might. No, he won't. He might. He's going to lose. I'm not leaving TV. I hope they fire her.

48:39Ben Mandelker: It's a hypothetical question. Stop using big bars, Heather! Well, let me explain. Like, hypothetically, if Gina were rich, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Like that.

48:53Ronnie Karam: I would say, no, I'm not going to choose. I'm not going to choose! Okay, so what if you had to choose between Mike, the real housewives of Orange County, or Don? Ah ha ha!

49:05Ben Mandelker: Vicky's like, oh, just trying everything not to be like, Don Gofferson! Don Gofferson forever!

49:10Ronnie Karam: It's like dripping into me, Andy. You're being mean to me. You're an asshole, Ryan. You're an asshole. I was like, ooh, Ryan. That's her son-in-law. And it's also Jen's guy.

49:21Ben Mandelker: You're an asshole, Ryan. Yeah, I didn't even pick up on that.

49:24Ronnie Karam: Get your feet off the fucking couch. And only eat raw livers from chickens. That guy really went.

49:33Ben Mandelker: Well, welcome back to the Real Houses of Orange County reunion. F.A. from A. says we're all stuck. And says, Jen, you're not low-hanging fruit. Do you think Vicky meant underlining shade by this? Or was she trying to be funny and it didn't land? I don't really know.

49:53Ronnie Karam: What is low-hanging fruit? What is it? Let's talk about low-hanging fruit. This is crazy. It's been two commercial breaks. Let's still talk about low-hanging fruit. How could someone call me low-hanging fruit? You were picking on me. You were picking on me. Yeah. Well, no, I wasn't picking at you. Yes, you were picking at me about being engaged. And Shannon goes, what? Oh. Oh, oh, Vicky, oh no. Why are you doing that with your hands, Shannon? Why are you acting like that? Oh, I just can't believe, oh. So Shannon, Shannon leans over to Gina and goes,

50:20Ben Mandelker: well, you know, it's funny because in the car, she actually was picking on people. And Gina's like, oh my God, you gotta say that. You gotta say it, make Victoria look bad. Do it, Shannon, do it, do it.

50:32Ronnie Karam: Well, I was sitting here making this motion with my hands because I could not believe that you're saying I'm being dramatic when you were saying things mean in the car about people. Oh, really, Shannon? Really, Shannon? Yeah, remember when you said Carmella was a fucking loser? Yeah. You don't believe her as a human or her story?

50:52Ben Mandelker: No, no, what I meant was I don't believe her as a human.

50:58Ronnie Karam: I mean, even broken clocks. I'm not really against it. Carmella is a little bit like... I don't know that I believe her as a human either, but you know she's welcome to be here

51:08Ben Mandelker: I just like that that's how Vicky clears up what she says that she just puts different emphasis everywhere as if like that clears it up

51:14Ronnie Karam: right like I didn't say anything I just said I don't believe her as a human I didn't say she's

51:18Ben Mandelker: a bad mother I said she's a bad mother

51:24Ronnie Karam: she talks a lot about Carmella these are all flashbacks of Vicky being in the car just being like I hate her and then I hate her too and I hate her too and Heather is uppity she's so uppity I'm so sick of that

51:38Ben Mandelker: So then Shannon is like, well, you know what? Like, you were talking a lot, and I'm sorry, and I did this with my hands because, you know, you're denying things, and you're twisting it, and so when you deny things, my hands start to do a Shannon Vogue, and I can't help it.

51:53Ronnie Karam: Well, I want an answer to something. I have a question. It's me, Champadranti.

51:57Ben Mandelker: Okay, great. Low-hanging fruit. Okay, yes.

51:59Ronnie Karam: I just want to know, Vicky, why would you call me low-hanging fruit? What does that mean? What does it mean?

52:05Ben Mandelker: Because it's easy to pick, okay? Oh, for Christ's sake. Whatever's closest to the ground, you can sell more insurance to.

52:09Ronnie Karam: Well, it's very hurtful. It was very hurtful, Vicky. It's like, oh, is it hurtful? I could have been worse. I'm Vicky.

52:16Ben Mandelker: All right. Well, Tamara, you speak fluent Vicky. What did you think when she told Emily, Shannon, and Jen to play the quiet game?

52:24Ronnie Karam: We need to retire the quiet game. It's stupid. We need to retire Vicky, too. Vicky's so stupid and old. I don't know why Vicky here. I look so young compared to Vicky. Look at Vicky.

52:35Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had a phone call. I needed five minutes. That's it. I just needed five minutes on the phone.

52:39Ronnie Karam: Vicki, I don't think you can have that job and also handle this job. So go back to that job. We have support insurance.

52:47Ben Mandelker: It was insurance. It was a call from Mother Insurance. I had to do it. I had to answer it. It's just what it is. I need five minutes. I got a job. I got a job.

52:56Ronnie Karam: I think you need to have insurance. You just need to call Vicki and she'll fix it. But don't call her here because she won't be here. She'll be in the insurance office. It was a death claim.

53:04Ben Mandelker: It was a death claim. Someone died. Someone died. I had to answer it. I had to.

53:08Ronnie Karam: Oh, maybe someone died.

53:10Ben Mandelker: But we were going golfing though. Someone died. Someone died.

53:14Ronnie Karam: Someone died.

53:15Ben Mandelker: Someone died. Someone died.

53:17Ronnie Karam: Just go towards the insurance. Tamara's like gaslighting Vicky. Like, here on your last legs. You can't deal with this anymore, Vicky.

53:28Ben Mandelker: I am of the mindset that like, yes, this is her job. and she needs to be present for her job. But I think also the job is about documenting their lives. And if she has to take a phone call to deal with someone processing a death insurance claim, I think that's okay. I just think that Gina and Emily are jealous because they're just not getting phone calls in general.

53:49Ronnie Karam: They're just jealous of phone rings. I know. Emails. Look, I think Vicky, a huge part of Vicky's personality is being a complete asshole and a monster. and that's what she's doing on TV so I mean she is doing her job you know she's making everybody hate her constantly so cha-ching hey

54:09Ben Mandelker: welcome back now let's relive the vacation that was so fun Japan oh gosh

54:20Ronnie Karam: alright well let's Gina you probably took the most Japanese culture look at Gina the most Japanly cultured lady we've ever had on the show. Gina, talk about the culture. It's like, oh my God, I love to shop. I went to a thrift store that had a lot of Prada backpacks. Thank you, Japan.

54:38Ben Mandelker: Oh my God, I bought a mini backpack in the most busy intersection in all of Japan. It was so exciting. By the way, by the way, why did Andy not ask any questions about Gina and the shopping and her being poor and the casita? That was like the most interesting thing that happened all season long and they didn't even talk about it on the reunion.

55:01Ronnie Karam: They didn't last time? I thought they did. Isn't that why she was screaming, I'm another poor!

55:07Ben Mandelker: Maybe they did. I guess I just blocked it out.

55:10Ronnie Karam: If you can ask why low-hanging fruit again, just keep asking Gina. Are you sure you're not poor? Are you sure you're not poor? Did you have money for that backpack? Did you? Did you? Did you?

55:21Ben Mandelker: Carmella, watching the trip back, did you have FOMO? Well, I was just going to say I was just watching it. I had total FOMO, and I just really wish I could have been there, but I just had so much anxiety. It was like...

55:34Ronnie Karam: So this was kind of weird. So Andy's like, well, you couldn't take your Adderall, and you couldn't take your insulin to go travel, so that sucked. And it's like... And Tamara's like, yeah, but you know what's weird? She says she has to shoot up insulin like 12 times a day. We never see a shoot-up. What's up with that? It's like, whoa, you're calling someone on fake diabetes? What is this?

55:56Ben Mandelker: this is so Tamara to be like

55:58Ronnie Karam: oh yeah she did

56:00Ben Mandelker: she said as in the audience didn't see it but she was doing the shots every 15 minutes

56:06Ronnie Karam: but honestly I feel I'm standing by that Tamara was questioning her diabetes spread it tell all your friends write Tamara right now be like Ronnie said you were accusing someone of lying about diabetes

56:19Ben Mandelker: I got you a statue of insulin

56:25Ronnie Karam: um that ruined my reunion i thought that was the best moment i'm sorry i'm sorry normally

56:31Ben Mandelker: tamra does the worst like i've given a choice of two behaviors tamra does the worst but unfortunately in this case tamra was actually defending carmela well no because um she's she's

56:42Ronnie Karam: like well i have to shoot up and then i thought tamra said well we don't see her shoot up and And Carmella said, yeah, because my anxiety was overriding. Like the insulin from my anxiety was overriding. I mean, I don't know how any of it works. So I was just like, oh, my God, maybe it's a diabetes lie. I just want like a three-season arc. If you're going to bring Carmella back, I just want this stupid storyline.

57:03Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I'm sure that actually would be a thing. If she does come back, I think they will be like, okay, you had your sort of like easy season, and now we're going to go after you.

57:11Ronnie Karam: You had your easy diabetes season. Get ready for the mean streets. All right, so now we're on the drama in Japan, and Tamara turned around at a crosswalk and was like, hey, Jen, you want to take a picture? And then Heather was like, wow, I wasn't even in that picture. That hurt.

57:30Ben Mandelker: But then I was in the very next picture 10 seconds later, but because I wasn't in the first one, that was my mother's fault.

57:41Ronnie Karam: What, you got to be in every picture at a crosswalk?

57:43Ben Mandelker: Jesus. Ah, geez, we need to do crying about it again.

57:46Ronnie Karam: Another selfie at a crosswalk? Heather. So, um...

57:52Ben Mandelker: This is basically Gina and Emily were trying really hard to get Heather upset at Tamara and Jen upset at Tamara because their whole thing was... Because Heather said, like, it was just weird because she took a selfie with Jen and I was right there and she just didn't, like, include me. I think it was like a normal, like, that was weird. And then Emily was like, wow, Heather was really upset. do you think that maybe Tamara was doing it to get back at Heather? And maybe, Jen, you might be a pawn in this whole scheme. And the fact that you guys are friends again is actually all fake. It's just a ploy, part of a larger scheme between Tamara and Heather.

58:26Ben Mandelker: Maybe it's that. Do you think maybe you should be angry about it now?

58:31Ronnie Karam: What did you mean by low-hanging fruit? What did you mean by that? Jesus Christ. All right, well, let's move past that and come back over the last 20 years, blah, blah, blah. Let's watch the original audition tapes. Wow. These audition tapes. Well, hello. I'm Shannon Bedore. I'm very wealthy. I have a husband I love more than anything. My chandelier is Bluetooth, as you can see. I've got crystals under the house because I'm allergic to literally everything. And thank you. What is that? Electromagnetic noise coming from the air conditioner. Oh, God. Oh, God. We're changing houses. We're getting a new house.

59:10Ben Mandelker: Hello. I'm television's Heather Page Kent soon to be known across the world as Heather Dubrow I am too smart for this show but work is tough and I'm here so you're welcome

59:24Ronnie Karam: you might think Reba if you're watching this and looking down on me and saying a reality show isn't real I'll say this Happy's Place hasn't been invented yet and you're not working Reba Slackentire

59:40Ben Mandelker: they showed clips of everyone like their audition reels but I swear to god they did not show Gina's which I thought was very funny they're like

59:49Ronnie Karam: oh Gina's oh my gosh

59:50Ben Mandelker: it was just like just a whole bunch of gathering signs from Marshalls she was just tap dancing under an underpass

59:57Ronnie Karam: like this is my backpack

1:00:00Ben Mandelker: and someday I hope to find a smaller version of it but um cameras

1:00:05Ronnie Karam: no one's hotter than me bats you're never gonna get another hashtag it's hot me I'm the best looking one out here she goes back like bitch

1:00:13Ben Mandelker: and I still love that like one of Vicky where she's like with Laurie Waring and like Tammy Knickerbocker or something and she's like it's hot out here and like that's it and then we're hot

1:00:24Ronnie Karam: ladies hot ladies by swimming pool we love swimming pool I mean

1:00:29Ben Mandelker: the hackiest thing like it's it's sort like it's of course we all notice it we all mention it whatever is like, you know, their faces all looked different. But what was crazy to me was I was like, wow, even Carmella's face looks different. It's been like less than a year.

1:00:44Ronnie Karam: Carmella looked like a different person. I was like, how did that happen? Did she audition 20 years ago and they just let her in? Because sometimes that happens.

1:00:52Ben Mandelker: I swear to God, I was like, wow, Carmella, look how much her face changed. I was like, wait a second.

1:00:57Ronnie Karam: Carmella looked totally different. And she was smiling, you know, like she could smile. Yeah. You know, But she's like, hi, I'm Carmella. And she had kind of bangs, like wavy hair. I don't know. I thought it was great.

1:01:10Ben Mandelker: But it was really hilarious to me that they did not include Gina.

1:01:12Ronnie Karam: Who doesn't look so different from 20 years ago? I mean, Jesus. Andy was saying that he was 36 when Real Housewives started. I was 36 when Watch What Crappin started. What do you think of that?

1:01:23Ben Mandelker: I know. 15th birthday coming up in January.

1:01:28Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I mean, listen. Hotter than ever. What are you going to do? So just keep working on it. Keep rolling it up. It's just like a restaurant awning. Just get a stick.

1:01:41Ronnie Karam: I've learned from these shows, you know. So I'm going to be like, hi, welcome back to the State Theater, everybody.

1:01:47Ben Mandelker: Okay, hey, Heather. Tell us a fun story about how you were mad about Terry signing your contract. Oh, yes. Well, you know what is funny? A joke, Gina. Funny. So in this clip, people don't know this story. It's very, very funny. The people in the groundlings love it. They're like, Heather, tell the story again. So when they first reached out, they said, we want you on the show. And Terry said, don't do that. And they actually went with Alexis Bellino. They didn't want me because they said I look too smart, so we're going to hire the dumbest bimbo you've ever met. And then two years later, they were like, oh, no, what a mistake.

1:02:23Ben Mandelker: Come on the show. And that's why I am here.

1:02:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I like when Heather said, yeah, they said I was too East Coast for the show. And the camera goes, that means brunette.

1:02:37Ronnie Karam: Which is true. I mean, Heather is one of the only. We just saw the parade of the ladies from the OC last, well, I mean, throughout the season. I guess 20 years when everyone comes in. And I was like, wow, you guys all kind of look the same. As your vision gets worse, you're like, wait, wait a minute. How dare you? Is that Gina?

1:02:55Ben Mandelker: How dare you erase the legacy of Tammy Knickerbocker's Black Hair?

1:02:59Ronnie Karam: That's true. I didn't say she was the first. I said one of the first.

1:03:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and I think, I love Tammy, and I think she does great work being a host of The Great British Bake Off. So Emily says, Oh my gosh, I would love to go back to Vegas and dance again, but... Oh yeah, because the question is...

1:03:17Ronnie Karam: What's her cringiest moment? Oh my God, I love that Emily's was that, because that was the cringiest moment.

1:03:23Ben Mandelker: It was actually worse than I remembered it because they show it. And they show her, she's like, ooh.

1:03:29Ronnie Karam: She wanted to be more body positive. So she went to take like a stripping class with the Pussycat Dolls in Vegas. And her Mormon husband didn't want to come because he's like, I'm Mormon. And she's like, well, I'm going to go then with your parents. And so she's doing like the whole, she's like, oh, yeah. It's like spinning on a pole. And it's just Perry. And I'm like, you look great up there, Heather. I mean, uh, this is why Emily has an issue.

1:03:57Ben Mandelker: I'm not even Heather.

1:03:59Ronnie Karam: You can't even call me by my name while I'm stripping for my in-laws.

1:04:06Ronnie Karam: I actually did that once for my dad's dad, um, Sithy, my Sithy. She was so cute. And we used to have these karaoke parties every Christmas. And I just got shit faced when, well, every year. and I started singing Private Dancer, Tina Turner's Private Dancer, and I fully stripped. I mean, not fully, not fully, but I was like taking off my shirt and she was just like, that's so nice, honey. Good job. You did a really good job. Bless his heart.

1:04:35Ben Mandelker: Ditchmark's a dollar. American Express will do nicely. Thank you. I think my most cringe-worthy moment was taking a shirt off when I gained 42 pounds. The trainer was saying, wow, that was a really hard moment for me.

1:04:49Ronnie Karam: Okay, great.

1:04:49Ben Mandelker: Let's watch it again. And we see it again.

1:04:53Ronnie Karam: I've seen a lot of ways since my divorce. I'm feeling extremely insecure. And her trainer's like, all right, take off your top. Okay, I'll just please... Whoa. Jesus.

1:05:06Ben Mandelker: Holy crap. Wow. Oh, my God. Bump backwards. Bump backwards. Oh, my God. My eyes just slammed the back of my head. Closed for business. closed. I quit. I quit.

1:05:19Ronnie Karam: What an asshole that guy is. And she's still going to him. They showed him again this year. I know. He's like, hey, hey, welcome back. No, don't go back to that fucking guy. So he's like, all right, cringiest moment. Gina, I mean, your whole time on this show. Who else? Vicky, who have you hated the most out of everybody that you've hated on this show? And she's like, I'm not going to say anything. And Shane goes, Lizzie Izzy. That's who she hates. No, no. Lizzie is a quality person. The bikini designer. Loved her. I respect bikini designers.

1:05:55Ben Mandelker: She called her a valedictorian of a class of one. That's what you said. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! 50 positive thoughts right in that moment.

1:06:06Ronnie Karam: We can say what we want, but Vicky, I mean, that is classic Vicky. That's why she makes the big bucks.

1:06:12Ben Mandelker: I have to say The first half of the season, I was like, wow, Vicky really is flopping. But the second half, I was like, you know what? I'm actually okay with it. And her cranky attitude really kind of spoke to me the second half. I was like... Spoke to me. You know, on a season where you have Emily and Gina just being so relentlessly annoying, I think she kind of earned her crankiness a little bit. So I'm okay with it, personally.

1:06:34Ronnie Karam: I mean, I think Vicky truly, truly, truly sucks. and I think that's about as far as I go but she does have listen, broken clocks, she does have something good to say every once in a while I love that, you're a valedictorian I'm valedictorian, you were homeschooled like

1:06:55Ben Mandelker: Tamara, what line of yours gets repeated to you the most? That's my opinion I say it every single day because I do like a busy in cameos and I'm like that's my opinion

1:07:06Ronnie Karam: People pay me to do cameos all day and I, here's an example of that. That's my opinion. You son stupid bitch. Nobody likes you. Hey, your husband got this cameo. He's sadly cheating on you. Happy birthday, Don.

1:07:25Ben Mandelker: I think you were just calling Gretchen.

1:07:28Ronnie Karam: Who sends a cameo from Tamara for your birthday? What a thing to wake up to.

1:07:34Ben Mandelker: I would like it. I mean, someone once sent me a cameo from Ramona, and I woke up, and it was like, you have a cameo from Ramona? I was like, whoa. I wish I could pull it up. I wish I knew where it was. She was like, whoa, wow. Watch what crap is. I love that. Whoa, that's hilarious. Crap and, whoa, whoa. It's like, watch what crap is. Craps. Whoa, you know what? I hope you watched a new season of Roni. I think it's going to be really good. I think it's really hilarious. And I think you'll see a lot of things you're going to like a lot, and there's going to be a lot of drama, and you're going to see my daughter looking older than me, and I'll be the hottest one.

1:08:14Ronnie Karam: One season, you're going to see my young daughter age 20 years. It's crazy. It's amazing how I look so young on your phone, and my daughter looks so old. Look at her over there behind me. She's on the playground. It's that old lady swinging from the jungle gym.

1:08:30Ben Mandelker: I will forgive all of AI if I can type in Ramona Singer into my phone and it pulls out this cameo right now. It will all be forgiven.

1:08:37Ronnie Karam: Did you guys see the one she had today? She's going crazy right now on TikTok. And it's like, whoa, hi. It's me, Ramona. I just wanted to tell you. I was trying, it was very cold outside, so I was crossing Fifth Avenue by going through Tiffany's. Which is so Ramona. It's like I'm taking the shortcut and going from one end of Tiffany's to the other because it's very cold outside. It's like a winter wonderland in here. Wait until you see what they did for Christmas. And she's holding the phone on herself.

1:09:11Ronnie Karam: What, I can't flip? I can't flip? And then it ends. Just post it anyway. Fucking Ramona. I'm not doing that again. Just talking about the part where I came through Tiffany's again? That's ridiculous. I'm not doing it again. Send it.

1:09:26Ben Mandelker: You guys, I found it. Thank you.

1:09:29Ronnie Karam: Oh, my gosh. There she is.

1:09:30Ben Mandelker: Thank you, Ronnie, for vamping. I have to hold the microphone up to my laptop here, okay? Okay. Okay. You guys may have to be a little quiet for a second because I'm playing it through the laptop, but here we go.

1:09:45Ben Mandelker: I love it. Ben and Ronnie, you have your own podcast, Watch What Crappens. You're right. A lot of crap happens in life, especially at Housewives of New York City, which will be airing April 4th. So good luck on covering our season. It's like the best yet, I think, but what can I say? I'm prejudiced. It's season 10. And I'm so glad that you like me so much. And if you haven't figured it out, it's Ramona from Housewives of New York City. So get ready for season 10. It's a doozy. In case you haven't figured it out, it's Ramona, okay? My favorite part is when she goes, it's my favorite. I mean, I'm prejudiced.

1:10:23Ben Mandelker: I'm like, you don't have to tell us that.

1:10:25Ronnie Karam: We know. We know. Uh, so, um...

1:10:33Ben Mandelker: Meanwhile, back at Orange County...

1:10:35Ronnie Karam: All right, well, I'm curious. Does anyone feel like being on the show has, like, helped them in any way? Like, work through things, like emotional issues? And Tamar's like, well, there's two different types of people. There's dumb bitches and hot bitches. I'm a hot bitch. Some dumb bitches don't know how to handle fame. Some hot bitches just go crazy. He's like, you're all of those. Yeah.

1:10:59Ben Mandelker: And then Andy reflects. He goes, you know, I remember 20 years ago, and while we cut together the opening credits and it was all about boobs and Botox and more boobs and vaginas, and we thought, we're going to hate this, but guess what? You guys all loved it. It was amazing. Boobs. That was amazing. Orange County.

1:11:20Ronnie Karam: All right, let's have some final thoughts from possibly the final Real Housewives of Orange County ever. Okay. I wanted to ask each of you one thing. what will you remember your time as a housewife? Carmella, we won't even remember you, but go ahead and answer that. Carmella, and she's like, my favorite memory from this season is when my daughter was talking about a vibrator.

1:11:44Ben Mandelker: All right, that was great. Should we talk about the boobs in the opening credits again? Emily, what about you? My takeaway is I feel like my marriage has been better from this show because I made a steak.

1:11:58Ronnie Karam: Oh, oh, oh. Your marriage is better.

1:12:05Ben Mandelker: Shane's like, I wasn't saying make me a mistake. I said I made a mistake.

1:12:12Ronnie Karam: This show's really set my marriage on a positive foot. It's going forward. No, it hasn't. Shane's just sitting there on that kitchen stool like, uh-uh.

1:12:24Ben Mandelker: Gina, what did you take away from this? Honestly, my friendship with Emily is really my takeaway from this because the thing is I'm known for my friendship with Emily, so if I'm known for that, I'm going to leave happy because I know I have my beard here, but it would be nice to be remembered for my friendship with Emily.

1:12:47Ronnie Karam: It's so funny. I know the only reason I'm iconic on this show for having terrible fashion in here. But I'd like to think it was Emily. It's like, okay, Jen. She's like, for me, I just... I didn't even realize this before, but I'm a mom. I don't know how I missed that. I've got kids. I don't know how I missed it. And before I thought, wow, they're so little. But it turns out that's what kids are. Just little things. Let me tell you something else. They get bigger. If you give them food... I don't...

1:13:25Ben Mandelker: You know, it's funny. You know, that night that I spent in the hospital, those three different nights, I just thought, like, oh, wow, things hurt down there. But I don't know how I missed that I actually became a mother. That's amazing. Yeah. I really missed that. Yeah, it's crazy.

1:13:38Ronnie Karam: Yeah. All right, well, Shannon, what are you going to remember? She's like, well, you know, it's been such a lovely time. David.

1:13:45Ben Mandelker: David. David. David. Well, I'm not going anywhere, by the way. So if you want some more very funny Bret Michaels impersonations and a top of the morning to you, you're in luck, because you are going to keep me around. And I am telling you...

1:14:09Ronnie Karam: I am not going. I'm not going, David. You can't keep... Do we need to call someone to get Shannon? You will! And you, and you, and you.

1:14:21Ben Mandelker: You're probably going to leave me. Oh, Shannon.

1:14:27Ronnie Karam: Oh, Shannon. I learned that I'm a bad bitch, but I knew that bitch. Guess what? Oh, wait. Andy, what have you learned? Female's better than regular male. As a female, I love female.

1:14:45Ben Mandelker: I am so immensely grateful for this platform because this platform's a little higher than Gina's platform. I've been able to show you that I know Richard Marks, that I have flatware and Nobu, that I can purchase all of you.

1:15:05Ronnie Karam: It's been such a full circle. I started this show Fabulously Wealthy. Now it's like 20 times that. How many years this show's been on? that's how many zillions of dollars I have made. Being me. I can sell anything. Remember when I sold masks during the pandemic for like$90? Heather. Yes, shameless Heather. She's like, I'm still rich, bitch.

1:15:31Ben Mandelker: And Vicky, what about you? I know you're not known for introspection, but you want to give it a try? I need to answer an email right now.

1:15:41Ronnie Karam: They know not what they do. I don't know what they do I'm Jesus Christ that is what I have learned

1:15:48Ben Mandelker: okay well for this year for our toast since Vicky has a messed up knee we're going to all stay seated and we're going to serve some sod gria

1:15:58Ronnie Karam: so they're doing this final test by the way they have turned on the waterfall so this whole last section just sounds like Carmella's inner thoughts

1:16:08Ronnie Karam: so then Tamara's like oh my god there's like a pool here I'm going to get naked and jump in the pool, and yeah. So she strips off her clothes, and Carmella's like, yeah, I was a Playboy bunny. I'm going to do that too, and then she just stands there, like holding onto a column.

1:16:23Ben Mandelker: She like holds onto a column.

1:16:25Ronnie Karam: She's like, ah.

1:16:27Ben Mandelker: She's like, it's actually a lot higher up here than it looks. Like you're on the ground floor, Carmella. This sounded fun,

1:16:32Ronnie Karam: but I've really got anxiety now. I don't know how I'm going to be able to go on there.

1:16:36Ben Mandelker: This is like really scary. It's reminding me of Danny. I might need a doctor's no more. This is like really, it's a lot. I don't think I'm going to. And then they're like, Carmella, be careful. Get down. They're like calling in like the fire department. It's like cringe.

1:16:49Ronnie Karam: It's like, it's really scary. It's really bad. And then Carmella, you know, Carmella, God bless her. Because she really does seem like a nice person.

1:17:01Ronnie Karam: But I think that for all that Carmella's done this season, which is like nothing, she really does get to sum up the entire season with the final line. She goes, I need a life preserver. The end and we're out Thank you everyone for coming tonight Real Housewives of Orange County Season 20

1:17:20Ben Mandelker: That's it for Orange County, that's it for us Good night everyone Walk into the club Everybody say my name Walk into the mall and

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1:19:09Ronnie Karam: Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt. She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniela. Itchles. We never miss her call, it's Diane Call. Big yay, it's Emily Gauthier.

1:19:19Ben Mandelker: Erin McNicholas, she don't miss no trick-a-less. Hava Nagila Weber. You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones.

1:19:25Ronnie Karam: It's no BS, we love Hugo ES. Sip some scotch with Jessica Trotch. She's our pal-a-ger, it's Karen Gallagher.

1:19:34Ben Mandelker: She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock.

1:19:37Ronnie Karam: Kristen the Piston Anderson. Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino. Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry. Come again? We're obsessed with Margaret O 'Halloran. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the berg. I love a ya, Olivia Williamson. She's the lady of the house. It's Rachel Sherouse. She's not the bottom. She's Rachel Topper. Yes, we canna. It's Savannah.

1:20:01Ben Mandelker: Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge.

1:20:05Ronnie Karam: Don't get mixed signals. We love Signy. Darn Skippy, it's Tippi. And our super premium sponsors. She's VVIP, it's Amanda V.

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1:20:33Ben Mandelker: Who, what, why, where, and Gwen Pentland. Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall Nothing can take the placing of Jason We got our wish, it's Jen Plish My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo Let's get savage with Laura Wildman In the study with a candlestick, it's Leslie Peacock We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron She's a whiz, it's Liz Sarthy Always killing it, it's Lola Alkalani Roger that, it's Marlis Rogers

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