#3610 Below Deck S13E05: Bond. Toxic Bond

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1:27Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?

1:56Ben Mandelker: So that's what's going on with me. Thinking forward to a few hours. What's going on with you?

2:00Ronnie Karam: Forward thinking. Yeah, I'm doing some laundry and getting ready to go, too, because we are on tour this week. We will be in Dallas first. On Thursday, we'll be doing Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And then we'll be driving down to Austin on Friday, November 13th. And we will be doing the final reunion for Real Housewives of Orange County. We will not be doing Houston, unfortunately, but we will be following all this up with Nashville, Clearwater, Fort Lauderdale on December 8th, 9th, and 10th. And then in January, we're heading over to San Fran, Salt Lake City, Denver, Colorado, Charleston, South Carolina, and Atlanta, Georgia.

2:45Ronnie Karam: Okay? And then in February, to finish it off, we're in Seattle, Vancouver, Portland, Toronto, Boston. and the finale is the golden crappy award show on broadway in new york city thursday february 25th so go to watch your crappins.com be sure you're getting your tickets there and not from some

3:05Ben Mandelker: resale site please that's right yeah thanks please please thank you please well well today We are in the wild world of Below Deck, back in the mix. In the mix. In the mix store. In the mix. We're over here in hot Thailand, where we last left off. Moe was wrapping the belt around his fists, about to defend the honor of Rosa and others, because there was some drunk English dude who was harassing them. And to that English dude, I say, stop it. What are you doing? Why are you harassing people? You're on a vacation on a yacht. Just stay over there on your boat, okay? Stay away from our Bravo liberties.

3:54Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Have fun getting a Marshall's belt mark across your forehead or whatever is about to happen. Yeah, exactly. Enjoy the state of pleather on your cheek. Yeah, I don't know if he was protecting his fists or if he was going to smack him with the belt. I mean, I'm guessing protecting with fist because he wrapped it all around his hand. So I don't know. I mean, I don't really know how to fight. I would say you are a chef. So maybe be like Sackboy, the video game where he carries around like a little pan or something. And then you can have people with a little pan.

4:29Ben Mandelker: Well, pans are generally heavier.

4:31Ronnie Karam: You know, I mean, you can get a cheaper pan. The spatula is funnier.

4:36Ben Mandelker: Rolling pan. There. Rolling pin would be great Because then you can also wag your finger And say I told you

4:44Ronnie Karam: You darn kids Get off my block But you know he didn't So he had his belt So the girls are trying to stop him They're like no Mo You're better than this Save your belt Your butt crack is showing

5:01Ben Mandelker: Mo please Get away from this man So you can give us more backstory story but um uh it actually wound up all right because they wound up just sort of getting into their van and production kind of fought with them instead because that's the role of production is for them to fight with the drunk people on the dock and they do and they separate and everything's okay it's it was a it was a scary moment but everyone is safe and um especially rainbow i think

5:27Ronnie Karam: you were right yeah i thought i think you're right about what you said earlier in the season that mo probably at this point doesn't last long because he is really getting so much backstory in every episode he gets like three or four and now they're just repeating it and it's getting ridiculous it's like yeah i don't know it's like without you know i never went for trouble but i had i did have trouble because i didn't listen to anybody but then i went to the army and then i learned to listen to people it's like that's great but you've told us that before and why are you holding your belt in your hand while you tell us the army like did they show you in the army the belt stuff it's too much backstory okay i need something more intense i i felt i feel like like every week we

6:14Ben Mandelker: get multiple things from mo that are like serious like backstory with a capital b you know someone has an allergy and it's like oh i have a friend who died from an allergy he went to work and never came back because he ate a peanut that's like he told that and then it's like and today the big thing also is his house this house they're selling their house the house that he grew up in at the time and then he was in the military and he got made fun of a lot and then he went to the military and learned it's like all this stuff and then i made a joke i was watching it with dom and i was like gosh they they give mo all this like every two seconds it's like a backstory with mo and then other people are like oh well you know i like to do theater and then like two like 10 minutes later on the show what sort of kaylee was like i like to do theater i was like see i've been watching in this show long enough that I can predict the backstory beats that are going to happen.

7:03Ben Mandelker: But yeah, I do think that he's going to especially by the end of the episode, obviously jumping way ahead, he's already losing his mojo and I don't think he's going to last because they've crammed his entire story into these episodes.

7:17Ronnie Karam: Yes. Well, we'll see. Now we go into the van and Mo's talking about how disrespectful they are and guess why this really bothers him, you guys. he was bullied in high school. And after he joined the military, he learned how to stick up for himself. And he's not going to go back to a place where his temper is short. And that's why he's so humble. And that's him in a nutshell. Does anybody want a strawberry?

7:42Ben Mandelker: I'm not going to go back to a place where my temper is short, even though I did just pull a belt out and wrap it around my fist. Although justifiably, I would like to add. So then Mo says, they're saying, I think you should have control. I think you should have respect for women. he's like period i used to have a short fuse and i didn't take directions you know to my mom but then the military made me realize how to take directions see the military did lots of things for him um so then we see kaylee and she's chatting with matt of course and kaylee is like myette do you think you're in love with my i'm not even sure if he even realizes there was just some sort of um fight that almost happened she's still like archie is to look at the good side of situation.

8:27Ben Mandelker: That English man, I just needed a girlfriend like me, but unfortunately I'm already in love with Matt.

8:32Ronnie Karam: Matt, did it bother you that all of those men were fighting over me when you're supposed to be my husband? Do you think you're in love with me, Matt? He's like, you don't even know if you like me yet. Like, you don't even know me. Maybe I should just buck off and calm down to that.

8:50Ben Mandelker: But I do like you. It's like, you can't like me. You've only known me for a week. So then They're like being annoying And Matt's like yeah you've only known me for a week I mean love at first sight is fairytale Bullshit you guys need to stop reading Fucking books There it is everyone Matt solved it Stop reading books

9:13Ronnie Karam: It's literature that's what's getting us These days I like Kayleigh just goes I don't read books Bitch When you know you know It's like that's bullshit you need to stop saying that it's stuff from books so you can cut it out

9:30Ben Mandelker: yeah when I look at Kaylee the first thing I think of is wow this is someone whose face is buried in the book at all times Matt is right she needs to come up for fresh air

9:41Ronnie Karam: I don't know what Kaylee knows except that I know that Kaylee knows who won the most recent Pulitzer I know it's like right there

9:49Ben Mandelker: it's on the tip of her tongue she is so excited for the Nobel Prize in literature. She's like, I have been bullying for Ramona Cleary. So then...

10:08Ronnie Karam: Mary Higgins knocked it out of the park clock. Am I right?

10:15Ben Mandelker: Chaucer. It's about time. So then...

10:18Ronnie Karam: Chaucer, Chaucer. I'll vote for Fabio any day of the week, right?

10:26Ben Mandelker: well anyway so um matt is basically uh trying to get her to like you know bring her stage five clinger down to maybe a four or a three and it's not really working um but she's like when you know you know yeah um and so he's kind of like okay he's like we're just friends now this is funny but being we're just friends now you don't want to be exclusive anymore i'm sorry she's like sorry everyone it is like it is it's very early for me today we just recorded a local news thing and it's like 7 a.m and like this is we've done late night podcasts before but the early podcast is a whole other beast i can't read the notes well it's also keeping up with just the idiocy

11:12Ronnie Karam: of this girl and this guy so this guy has already been like i want to commit to you you know well i I think we're exclusive. And I was like, how dare you? Keep saying we're exclusive. Now, this guy is a douchebag, but this lady is also a total ding dong. She's worrisome, Kaylee. I think she's actually a worrisome person. Like, she's probably going to have arrests for stalking and stuff like that. Like, she's beyond kind of normal, young stupidity. And he's like, just leave me alone already. We haven't had dinner yet. Just don't be so emotional. You get so emotional at the end of the night. I'm too hot for this.

11:49Ronnie Karam: and she's like so what you think you don't want to get married just kidding

11:54Ben Mandelker: am i am i kidding she is a full-on disaster she is a disaster and he is the biggest dick of all and i'm concerned that we're gonna lose our bosun and then matt's gonna become the bosun or maybe they'll do like a swaparoo i don't know but um he's he's like the two of them together are they are the people that clog up our societies like where we could be putting our resources into so many better things but they're the ones are going to get arrested they're the ones who are going to wind up in court they're going to ones who will have some sort of drunk drunken fight late at night they're the ones who are just polluting humanity and we're seeing their

12:34Ronnie Karam: their genesis right now and uh not down for it yeah uh so uh rosa is talking in the car to mo and she's like, well, last night, James and I were like, it'd be nice to have some fun. He doesn't want anything serious, which is why I think it's going to work out with us. And he's like, do it. We're here for a short time, not for a long time. I'm like, that's not the expression.

13:04Ben Mandelker: That's not the expression is we're here for a good time, not a long time. When he said that, I cracked up. we're here for a short time not a long time it's like there's no word play there what they say and

13:20Ronnie Karam: you know what they say in heart disease circles you're here for a short time not a long time

13:28Ben Mandelker: there's no word play if you say we're here for a short time you don't have to say we're not We're not here for a long time. It's pretty funny, though. Okay, so now they go to it. Just couldn't read the lines at 7 in the morning. But still, I'm still awake enough to know. Short time, long time. Doesn't work.

13:51Ronnie Karam: There was one on Potomac We Missed yesterday where Wendy says, ooh, it's going to be a fight to the duel.

13:58Ben Mandelker: Yes, I forgot about that. She did say that, and it made no sense. Yeah, I love a Bravo slaughter of sayings.

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15:31Ronnie Karam: I'm sick of things stressing me out. The other day I was running late and nearly ran over an armadillo. I felt so bad.

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15:53Ronnie Karam: It's a great way to shift your mood.

15:55Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but everyone's always like recommending a million shows. Like you got to watch this, you got to watch that. I'm at a point where I don't say, what do I have to watch? Now I'm all about how do I want to feel?

16:04Ronnie Karam: Yeah, the feeling I chase is dark and moody. That's why I go towards crime shows.

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16:21Ronnie Karam: Snacks are a part of the feeling. I love a cracker.

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17:55Ronnie Karam: Alright, so we go to the restaurant and everyone's ordering espresso martinis. And Rainbow's like, um, you guys, I would like to propose a girl's trip to the bathroom. That's where girlfriends talk and chat.

18:13Ben Mandelker: and uh so Kaylee goes with her and then Matt uh tells Mo that uh he's like god Kaylee's really irritating me everything is irritating me and Mo's like chill bro um so Rainbow is like so girlfriend how are things with you and Mart and Kaylee's like well the thing that catches me off guard is that every single every single guy I've ever liked is so toxic toxic and he's actually really fucking nice and i'm like you're too good to be true i don't want it to be like about relationship because i think i'm falling for him i'm like or the other option

18:49Ronnie Karam: is he's also toxic and you probably are too as we see the way that you guys move in the next 10 minutes because she's definitely one of those like oh my god he's so toxic why do i like toxic because you are worthless to me you are nothing to me i am not attracted to you

19:12Ben Mandelker: yeah she willingly yeah yeah she willingly looks past the toxicity and then says but he's not even toxic it's great when she later on says oh i choose to see the best in people i'm like well why don't you date someone that you don't have to see the best in they could just be the best like You don't have to be the one to peel back the layers and see the best in that person. That's your red flag right there.

19:39Ronnie Karam: That's true. I will say that you're lucky because you do have somebody that that comes naturally. But the world isn't necessarily filled with people like that in the dating pool. And I'm not saying to date a toxic person or anything like that. It's just not as easy. It's like when you go fishing, you might as well catch a tuna while you're there. Where are you catching some shitty river catfish? It's like, well, that's what's in the river. Sometimes you just got to look up a catfish recipe and make it work. Or just don't go fishing. Now, I'm not saying anybody should date. Or just don't go fishing.

20:13Ronnie Karam: That's true. Buy your fish at the market.

20:15Ben Mandelker: There you go. Honestly, I actually think there's nothing.

20:19Ronnie Karam: Prostitution until you find the perfect one.

20:21Ben Mandelker: That's what I'm saying. I'm never going to tell someone to lower their standards for a man just because it's the only man that's there. like at that point you're you're eating vegetables tonight okay there is no fish like she just doesn't realize because she's damaged goods she just is she has her own issues i'm sure we're going to get the backstory once the most stuff is cleared out we're going to get the my dad was never really around a lot he worked for business and he and my mother they often gone to a fight then they got divorced when i was eight and then he left us for a new family i never get to see him ever again it's gonna be that whole thing it's gonna be that whole thing she's like and that's why i really like man because he's like really stable it's gonna be that it's and so i don't know like she doesn't she doesn't see her own like the stuff that she needs to go to therapy for so she's just in her loop and yes it's sad but also it's annoying yeah and it's also a show that shouldn't be about this

21:17Ronnie Karam: every second of the day and yet it is because that's below deck og and i think they just assume that everybody needs to know what the cleaning people are doing in their bedrooms at all times. So Rainbow's like, well, I feel like she's really optimistic about this guy, but she's really naive. And I'm a little smarter than that. I'm Rainbow. So he's going to walk off his abeoat and hook up with the next thing with legs. Yeah. Might be me if I sit down next to him.

21:52Ben Mandelker: Very missed in it. Yeah, you're the one who is trying to get to know him. So then the waitress comes over. While this is happening, the waitress comes over and asks if they're ready to eat. And Matt just turns around and goes, yes, I'm fucking starving. And they're like, geez, Matt. It was like really rude, especially for someone who works in service. I have to imagine there's a certain amount of empathy of like, oh, man, I know what it's like to deal with asshole customers. So you shouldn't be one. even i know he's not in the interior but he's still in service on the exterior so he's being a total dick and they're all like matt they're like they all like scold him and then mo's just telling him to drink water and everything and it's like what you're just really hungry

22:38Ronnie Karam: he's just yeah he's already up basically he's super up and acting like an and um mo's like matt's being way too much and alex is like i love the guy if i keep him happy he's the best person i can have on my team and i'll keep him from getting frustrated but if he's not happy wait where's he leaving where's he leaving and so matt comes in and he's like i just get irritated that's all it's like a lot i want to share the dinner not eating anything

23:07Ben Mandelker: and mo's like bro bro you know you know she's you know let me let me tell you something kaylee she's catching feelings for you too fast yeah that pissed me off and alice is like well just don't take it out on the people who have nothing to do with it. He's like, I'll take it out on the people who don't know how to do a slide. I'll tell you that much. You're the boss on the boat, but off the boat, you're just no one. And to be honest, I don't respect you enough on the boat to respect you off the boat.

23:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. You're just on the boat and you're not on the boat, so I don't have to listen to you on the boat or the boat.

23:40Ben Mandelker: I'm like, I think he's still the boss. I think he's still the boss off the boat. I think it all counts. still counts as a work environment so then um we knew this guy was gonna get gross he's been gross

23:50Ronnie Karam: but he really is like giving us an early finale tonight he's like climax i'm already an asshole you do not need to wait 18 episodes yeah seriously so matt matt comes back to the table it's between

24:05Ben Mandelker: rainbow and kaylee and kaylee's like if you care you can prove it because i'm not going to prove by telling you i fucking love you i'm too honest for you she's like oh can you just not come outside with me so now they're doing this whole thing they're getting into like a little lover's spat in front of everyone and uh mo uh mo says i think that matt and kaylee are toxic on a scale of one to ten there are 20. it's like yep that is that's correct and sure enough they go out and have their

24:37Ronnie Karam: performative argument for the cameras why are you so angry because you freaking pissed me off and And you're freaking out about not loving you in a week. And this is ridiculous bullshit.

24:48Ben Mandelker: But I like you. And I'm scared it's too good to be true. I mean, look at the way you're talking to me right now. It's just too wonderful and beautiful.

24:57Ronnie Karam: No, it's not too good to be true. Let me just be nice, all right? I'm not always nice. I've cheated on three girls in one and a half years. So just let me be that guy as well.

25:08Ben Mandelker: It's just so hot because all I see are green flags. When you say that, I'm like, green flag. I'm like, where am I? Am I in Ireland and they got rid of the other two colours on the flag? Because that's all I see. Yeah, I can freak you out.

25:22Ronnie Karam: Don't tell me you love me. Green flags are like broccoli. That's disgusting. Stupid. Oh, my God. I fucked ten different kinds of broccoli this year, so remember that.

25:34Ben Mandelker: It's like you couldn't be more perfect. I just can't find any faults with you. The more you talk, the more I realise you're essentially, you're one of the best people I've ever met in my life.

25:44Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it's just like, I don't give a single fuck what you do or who you fuck then. I don't care. It's like, oh, yeah, then watch me stick my penis in this broccoli right now. It's like, oh, yeah, what do I care? Have sex with the green broccoli flax. It's like, yeah, I'm doing it right now. I'm a bad person. I don't care about you. Yeah, I don't care about you either. I don't care about you either. Oh my God, both of you shut up. You're just going to end up in the guest cabin anyway. Stop wasting our time. I don't want to see you fighting and I don't want to see you non-fighting. Go somewhere else, the both of you.

26:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah. It's time to recruit a shark for those Thailand waters. So Kayleigh says, God forbid maybe I asked him too many times if he was in love with me. Am I going to judge him for being drunk and a dick? We've all been there. But that doesn't excuse the behavior. I'll tell you what excuses the behavior. Me. I'll excuse it. and i see a saw team that i don't think anyone else gets to see so yeah oh god the if you're seeing the side that no one else gets to see like that's that's not a good thing it's like if you get to see if you get to see my ass after i've taken a dump that does not mean it's a special

26:55Ronnie Karam: thing for you okay yeah i have a relationship special he's only like this to me it's really special.

27:03Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you know who else said that? Brittany Cartwright. So, like, and many, many, many others, ma 'am, and so stop it. Stop this. It's no good.

27:14Ronnie Karam: Okay, so now they go to the club, and Rainbow and James are dancing, and Sen asks Rosa why Rainbow is coming for her man, and Rosa's like, Rainbow's not a girl's girl. I'll tell you that. And Sen's like, Like, yeah, Rainbow doesn't give girls, girl. I would never be friends with her if we weren't on a boat. And the fact that she has a boyfriend but is grinding on James, it's giving double life.

27:45Ben Mandelker: Double life.

27:47Ronnie Karam: So Fraser and Kaylee. Her boyfriend. She's had her boyfriend for two months. And she's a yachtie. I don't know. It's not really double life. It's being horny on a boat when you've had a boyfriend of two months.

28:00Ben Mandelker: Yeah, exactly. So Fraser and Kaylee are talking about Matt. And Fraser, always being a great leader for his stews and always leaning into the right decision, tells Kaylee, we need to get him jealous, right? She goes, yes, that's right. I'm going to go hook up with someone in the crowd. But now Kaylee is hammered. And so she's staggering around, going up to Randa. Hey, let's make out. Let's make out. You look nice. Let's make out. It's embarrassing. It's sad. And also, like, Fraser, I'm sorry if I'm being a fuddy-duddy, but Fraser should not be encouraging this. No, he shouldn't be grabbing his young, drunk employees and then aiming them towards drunk strangers in

28:54Ronnie Karam: Thailand.

28:55Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and he also should not be encouraging mess between the departments. He should be like you. He should actually be. He should be the one to clock the fact that this is a toxic ass relationship. And that he should be like, you're so much better than him. Let's not focus on him. Like he's not treating you right. Like he should be in that role. Because that's what Aisha would do. And I think it's what Daisy would do. I think it's what Hannah. And I don't know if Kate would do it. Kate would just be like, oh, you're stupid. But either way, she would not be encouraging her to go get drunk and continue the toxicity.

29:28Ronnie Karam: so Kaylee's making out with random dudes and everyone's watching her and giggling and Matt's like look at her, she's fronting she's fronting, they've got no competition on me, who's gonna win me, nobody

29:43Ben Mandelker: you know I kind of want Matt to have a reaction at this point because he's not giving me anything except for being mean and also fuck him, whatever but I also see a special sword to him so then now they all i mean this is just the worst thing this is just the worst for her to be like i have not seen anything there's you know i have not seen anything toxic out of him yet so far and then you have to go and like make out with strangers just to get a reaction from him ma 'am i know it's almost unfair to like come down so hard on her when he's the one being the true dick but i get frustrated when there are some easy off ramps to a terrible situation and you just want to like grab her through the TV and say, stop it, there's better options for you.

30:28Ben Mandelker: You're sweet. They're both idiots.

30:30Ronnie Karam: They're both idiots. Period. And so he's like, well, you don't play games with me. It's hard to get jealous of you when I'm the sexiest here and 300 women want me to have who everyone wants me. And she's like, I don't give a single fuck about you. He's sitting here saying he's the... give a fuck about you, which is why I just made out with that random man with a broom over there.

31:01Ben Mandelker: Matt announcing that he's the sexiest man in the club. You look like a 1920s version of the moon. I'm sorry. Okay. So Mo is like...

31:16That is so weird and accurate.

31:20Ben Mandelker: It's like that old silent movie where the spaceship crashed into the moon so then um so then uh in one van sen is um sen tells james to kiss rosa and um they're like make out make out make out and guess what rosa and james have a makeout session so excited for rosa she gets to she gets to know what it's like to take to make out with Melba Toast. All right, we're a quarter of the way through this,

31:56Ronnie Karam: and it's still all about these fucking morons who don't even like each other trying to make themselves make out for TV. So Matt and Alex are now arguing on the way back to the boat. And Alex is like, what is that squeaking sound I hear? Alex asks about a squeaking sound, and Matt's like, it's just sending you moaning. And Alex is like, you're pissing me off, Matt. I know I am. That's the point. I want to piss you off. I don't care that you're the bosun. But okay, bosun, let me bow to you and tell you. You're amazing, bosun. You're stupid. You're stupid. Bosun's a stupid. You're broccoli flag.

32:35Ben Mandelker: He goes, you delegate stupid fucking jobs to us and you do fucking all day. You're not the boss of me. You're the only person who's the boss of me is my golden, my mother. I'm like, he's literally the boss of you. I don't know if you understand the concept. but he's literally your boss. He is the boss of you. You're also apparently not here for a long time, but a short time.

33:00Ronnie Karam: Alex is like, well, that's irrelevant. It's not about me being your boss. It's about respect. He's like, oh yeah, you're just fucking right. It's bad to the boss then. It's bad to the boss because I'm back on the boat. And then he leaves and Kaylee's like, don't be a dick. Don't be a dick, seriously. well Matt is trash Matt is a can Matt is a can of trash I can't wait to encourage Kayleigh to make out with him more later on yeah seriously you know not being an asshole

33:30Ben Mandelker: but the way Matt is talking to Alex personally I find very disrespectful and I certainly wouldn't allow someone to speak to me like that and if they did they'd be on their way out I feel like there's a good amount of footage of Stu talking to Freacher that way but that's okay um so then everyone's going their separate ways and kaylee is following matt into a guest cabin um and she's like are you going to bed are you going to sleep he's like what's the difference he's not proving himself worthy of being a bosun i'm still angry at alex now i'm better than him at his job and i'll own the fact that i'm a dick but i get the job done that's all i'm seeing like oh my god please just like fall off this boat i'm a very confident human being you know my iq

34:13Ronnie Karam: i'm in the top seven percent of the world and she's like oh clearly it's all that non-reading of books so and then basically he basically passes out um and she

34:30Ben Mandelker: leaves so now on the sun deck rosa and james are in their uh their i think they're in the hot tub and they're making out they're no they're just sitting on a bench they're making out it's as

34:41Ronnie Karam: boring as you can imagine he's very romantic yeah they're just sitting there about to fall asleep and he's like let's make out so they kiss and then she's like ew don't open my face it's just like a romance novel yeah the poetry it's so stirring yeah he's like now it's the morning we're making out

35:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah, no It's the morning Kaylee has She's offering a face mask to Carrie Because the previous guest left them And she's like, I'm getting a face mask Do you want one? The guest gave us a salmon spoon Face mask, it's like, fuck August, it'll be an adventure For my skin

35:26Ronnie Karam: What we do to turn this Spam on I want to know from our LinkedIn so we go to mo and fraser's cabin most talking to his daughter about her grades and um he's like you know it's gonna be a minute before i come back to jersey especially since we sold the house dun dun dun more backstory incoming yeah he's like i'm feeling very down because i'm not home

35:54Ben Mandelker: with my family and my mom sold the house we grew up in you know when i was i was there from 1993 until now, so many special memories in that house. I learned to cook in that house, sneaking a girl in the house, losing my virginity, house parties. I did math. All my math homework I did in that house. I would go to sleep at night and that would happen at that house. Everything happened in that house. Every single thing happened in that house.

36:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And he's not even there to help him move. So Ariana is, she's like, when I go to grandma's house, she gives me pictures of us and I posted pictures to my story and my friend said you're hot and he's like well I am a chubby fine individual but you know I'm not taking my shirt off on this boat everyone's too hot and works out and he's like but I'll tell you what I miss I miss grandma's house I miss it one thing I learned to do on the army was love grandma's house

36:56Ben Mandelker: Fraser Fraser it's time for preference sheet stuff could you get Mo out of his room he's crying about his house again okay it's the requests are very basic on in the first charter the chef can do whatever he likes we really need to get Mo to find his mojo okay should not be tough at all although they do have this one request even though it's out of season can you please make gingerbread houses you think he'll be okay with that right ah grandma's gingerbread house We'd make those in the house. There's a house in the house. So beautiful. House in the house in New Jersey. And then we'd watch house afterwards.

37:33Ronnie Karam: So Kerry checks in with Fraser about last night. He's like, anything I need to know about yet? Anybody acting like a drunk idiot? He's like, not yet. I'm holding on to some things I'll come to you about later. Which is a little dangerous because, as we know, Kerry is looking to replace Alex. when, meanwhile, Matt is looking problematic as fuck and will probably need to go at some point. So you could probably use that information, Fraser. But Fraser holds back.

38:02Ben Mandelker: Yes, he's holding back. Speaking of which, Matt and Alex have a little talk. And Matt's like, bro, bro, I can't even remember what I did last night. And Alex says, well, for one, the way you were speaking to me last night is not acceptable. Something about a broccoli green flag. and then you said look at my arm this is a slide i know how to use it and i was like what are you trying to say bro and for me it's not even about the hierarchy generally just person to person i'm starting to feel i'm feeling that good word that i've been giving you is starting to get taken

38:34Ronnie Karam: advantage of yeah yeah whatever i apologize for being rude to you it's just i'm extremely hot you know and you know i'll do better i'll be better or i mean it mean it bro so alex is like well I'll be keeping an eye on him I'm worried and then Rosa talks to Fraser she's like oh have you seen that silly or bloody James has written his name here in his shirt look at that it's not even on the tag it's the back of the shirt oh we had a nice little kiss last night can you believe I'm in love with someone who would write their name on the wrong part of their shirt she definitely did just

39:15Ben Mandelker: go back like 200 years she does she's now talking like she's in one of those jane austen movies did you see did you see that willoughby willoughby keeps his name on the interior of his shirt it's absolutely fascinating so fraser is like what's that weird i don't even know what that means is that a twat and a squirt is that what you're trying to say he's like yes thank you but did you guys flirt loads last night it's a twat and a flirt actually if you really think about it it's like yes we had a nice little kiss as i just told you so then uh james and sen are just talking about rosa and james uh you know mr personality is like last night was great and sends like oh yeah how's that all going it's like it went really well you know she wants more than one night and i can't commit to what she wants but i think we keep it at the flirty stage it's like wow basically as toxic as the other one, but just a lot more boring about it.

40:15Ben Mandelker: Yes.

40:16Ronnie Karam: Boring people can be toxic, too. You see? So then we go to the Sky Lounge. Fraser's radioing Mo. It's prep sheet meeting time. And Carrie's like, alright, made a lot of mistakes last, childer. Alex doesn't have room for errors. He's on thin. Oh, I saw him tell you that. Alright, we have gorgeous Janessa as our primary guest from Orlando. What a Shocker, everything she wears is going to be visually horrifying. All right, let's welcome to Janessa, married to an old rich man who is now dead. So let's watch how Janessa spends his money, shall we?

40:54Ben Mandelker: She's also brought Jamie and Chad, Chad's daughter Madison and Paris. Paris is Madison's best friend, and they bonded over having very basic names. she used to travel with her husband steve but he passed away last year and his last words were to say please in my honor don't bring paris and madison on a boat this trip is fully dedicated to him day one early evening primary has requested a private viewing of james bond island because steve loved those movies so i mean it's sad but also like in honor of steve we're gonna have a spy

41:32Ronnie Karam: night we're going to james bond island and rose was like it's going to be an emotional thing to witness james bond island isn't it someone from orlando it's going to be extremely extremely hard well it's all very shallow water so we can't get yacht clothes all right it'll take about 20 minutes to get them there and it'll be an incredible evening all right well no one should be an ode to Steve. Oh, sorry. Night one should be an ode to Steve. An international spy themed. So primary request Steve's favorite dinner on night one. Steak and bernet sauce on a baked potato. Steve probably died of a heart attack.

42:17Ronnie Karam: Let's keep that between ourselves. Steve has requested

42:23Ben Mandelker: his favorite meal. Steak and bernet sauce on a baked potato wrapped in fettuccine Alfredo. So carry on the carry.

42:31Ronnie Karam: Every morning, Vanessa would like Steve's favorite drink, melted butter in a cup, 16 ounces of melted butter, washed down with a little heavy cream. All right.

42:43Ben Mandelker: And for lunch, naturally, he would love an Italian sandwich made with all the cold cuts. And instead of bread, just wrap it in more ham.

42:55Ronnie Karam: Lard on top Only lard on top Alright Well that happens to be my favourite So I might have to join But look let's help the chef He's on his back foot right now So we've got to be positive for Mo Mo's been bullied He's been to the army His mother lost her home And he took off his belt today And showed everyone his butt crack So let's all rally round Mo It's been a lot of backstory for this guy

43:22Ben Mandelker: oh right well i just want to remind everyone that day two there'll be a beach picnic with the chef cooking for them so mo you get to come to the beach and mo's like oh no um so uh mo's like you know there's like self-reflection and there's accountability from the last charter and when i was a younger chef i used to cook i hate criticism i used to challenge the chef as a line cook i'm like it's it's just more backstory for mo but after a while i started to realize that i'm the problem it's me yes me you know what fuck taylor swift it was me that song was about me this charter i want to make sure i'm just on point i may not take myself that seriously but i take my job very seriously all right so uh now rainbow and rose are chatting

44:09Ronnie Karam: rose is like how are you rainbow says um i'm good but i did have a question for you because i was chatting with kaylee and she mentioned that you and i have some tension like

44:20Ben Mandelker: what what why would we have tension so kaylee of course went up to rainbow and said well i know that you and you and rosa have a bit of tension don't get along and she just hates you so much as you probably already know oopsies so by the way this is also i i feel like this was like a messy moment for kaylee and i feel like it's linked somehow to this toxicity i don't know there's something about like causing like dropping bombs and other people like the i don't know why i feel like that's what britney would do too when she was like at the worst with jacks right like is there i really shouldn't be basing like everything off of my experience watching britney and jacks but i do wonder if there's like a correlation between creating drama with other people to maybe deflect away from you know crap that's happening in your own life you know well she

45:17Ronnie Karam: hasn't she's not even with this guy and they're not really deflecting anything they're playing it out in front of everyone yeah i don't know some some of this i think is just natural reality tv stuff because this cast is very prepared it's like we have to come on we all have to date somebody we have to talk about it every two seconds and then we need to gossip about each other so it It seems like they've just learned how to do this. And she's like, all right, well, let me start some shit between the stews, you know, but I don't know. I don't, maybe it's just, I'm not wanting to make, make it as deep as you're saying, because it's going to be a really long season.

45:52Ronnie Karam: If this turns into a seriously abusive situation, like the Brittany and Jack's thing that I don't want to talk about. Like, this is below deck, like keep it light. Not you below deck the show. I'm telling the show. Please.

46:08Ben Mandelker: You know what? Growing up, I used to always have my favorite light. You know, when you say keep it light, it makes me think if I had a light, I would turn it on every single day and every single night I would turn it off. And now it's gone. It just makes me reflect that, you know, lights don't last forever.

46:23Ronnie Karam: I'm not going to New Jersey again without that light. I'm telling you right now. So Rose is like, well, you are flirty with the guys, a little overly flirty. and, you know, you did say you have a boyfriend. She's like, okay, fair, but, like, that's my entertainment is, like, flirting. She goes, okay, but you don't flirt with everyone. You flirt with people it's not appropriate to be flirting with. We're not all stupid, all right? And as well, I was a little bit frightened, not going to lie, because, you know, you can be a certain way with a guy that I'm into. And I was like, wow, well, I can't be – I don't want it to be like that.

47:02Ronnie Karam: And she's like, um, why not? Like, you know, just be conscious that there are other people in the world and you may not be coming across in the best way.

47:12Ben Mandelker: Rainbow's like, um, do I have to walk around with a trash bag over my head because you're insecure? I'm sorry you don't feel like you can compete with me. Where is Rainbow's sister to tackle her to the ground and knock some sense into her? Okay, get back onto your island in Holland and then have some humble pie.

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48:42Ronnie Karam: All right, now it's deck time, 22 hours till charter. And Alex is helping Mo clear out one of the freezers, Laz. And Matt's talking to Mo while they clean. He's like, I was a mess last night. I was a mess, a hot mess. He's like, did you apologize to the girl? And he's like, why should I apologize? what did I do to her I wasn't a dick to her she was a dick to me

49:09Ben Mandelker: and Mo was like well you guys were both dicks and you both have to apologize you know you gotta apologize to her and Matt's like yeah I will fine and he's like yeah you were being a dick bro Matt's like I'm probably going to have some damage control later I don't like animosity so I'd rather just say what she wants to hear and a cheeky cuddle at the end of the long day is never a bad thing you don't like animosity you are the animosity we just watched 15 minutes of you being the biggest take to everyone around you

49:36Ronnie Karam: yeah you start it so then uh we cut to fraser curling his eyelashes in his cabin and he's like god i just need to look more human which i imagine is a lot of fraser's grooming like all right give them sad look give them happy look you've really got this

50:00Ben Mandelker: just need to make sure they don't realize i'm an undercover oscar-winning actress who loves countess luan who won an oscar for michael clayton they must think that i am fraser just told us one um so then kaylee and rosa are uh talking over dinner and rainbow comes in and uh rosa is um she's going through it and she is she starts talking about how she was on antidepressants about five years ago because she had issues with substances and her mental health was bad. And she just had a, she had a mental breakdown and she actually went, she checked herself into a facility. She spent three months in bed and she was depressed.

50:40Ben Mandelker: And it's a very sad story, but she built herself back up. And, you know, she's like, you can do it if you put your mind to it. So the girls all hug her and support her and everything. And she's telling us about it and she's struggling even just to tell us now even after all these years um she gets very emotional about it and she just she just the reason she got into yachting is that she just wanted to have a change and earn money and she loves boats and she wants to become the best version of herself and then eventually make out with a very bland person

51:15Ronnie Karam: i just wanted a life a life where i could basically have a very low energy relationship with the human equivalent of ranch dressing and here i am doing it i'm doing it the girl's like oh my god you're so strong she's like yes yes yes i am so another person uh running from the world by getting into yachting hey i got it you know never heard that's a long term it's a long time trope on below deck you know are you running from the law are you running from parental courts are you running from you?

51:59Ben Mandelker: Yachting. Yachting is your destination.

52:05Ronnie Karam: So now Kaylee and Matt talk. And he's like, I'm just going to look at the view. She's like, do we need to have a chat? Because last night really sucked. He's like, because of you,

52:15Ben Mandelker: because of me. Because of both. It's like, what was that being an asshole? What I was doing? And she's like, yeah, you know, you're being really mine. He goes, I apologize for that. I do. It's like, but I haven't liked someone like this in a long time. And I just like, I don't want to fuck it up. Like it's spoiled at its core. It doesn't matter what you do. Yeah.

52:38Ronnie Karam: This sucks. And so they decide that they're going to make up and he gives a hug and she gives a hug. And she's like, I tend to give people second chances. Because I see the face in them. And I do see a future with him. And when you find someone with that great of a connection Who's already yelling at you about stopping You know, stalking them within the first two days that you've met them I mean, don't let them go, am I right?

53:06Ben Mandelker: This whole second chances thing Like, it's good to give people second chances I do think that's good But like, sometimes it's based on the context If you know someone and like, you know And then they fuck up You give them a second chance But if you don't know them and they fuck up and you don't, and she doesn't know this guy, like you don't have, you're not obligated to give them a second chance. But I feel like she is unfortunately someone who gives second chances because it elevates her and meaning that it allows her to see herself as someone who gives people second chances. And she's a better person.

53:43Ben Mandelker: She's a good person. And I think she, for some reason, needs that kind of – I can't think of the right word. But she needs that thing where she can say, I'm a good person. I give the second chances. She needs that validation. she's a good yeah and like you don't like you don't have to give this guy a second chance to be a good person like and it doesn't make you a bad person either or it's like someone has told her she's been a bad person her whole life and so she's afraid of being a bad person or something like that i mean i'm just being an amateur psychologist right here but also we've seen this a million times you don't have to give him a second chance don't well he didn't even ask for a

54:19Ronnie Karam: second chance that's the thing at least give people a second chance who care or who apologize yeah he doesn't care he doesn't apologize and he's telling you right to your face he's not he's gonna be an asshole to you and he's gonna cheat on you and everything else like he's already told you this and she's just like giving him second chances no no you're just at this point you're

54:41Ben Mandelker: just being a dumbass my god what do you so now the next chances i say no what's that i said what do you say what do you say to chances i said no yeah well it's like someone who comes up and slabs

54:55Ronnie Karam: you slaps you in the street and then you're like i forgive you well good for you they didn't ask for it just keep moving before they slap you again you dummy so kaylee um is an idiot so then we go to four four hours until like seriously four hours until charter and uh alex is giving his expectations for the crew because there's spotlights on us this time all right and um he's like does anybody want to add to what i said and matt's like no i'm being a good boy right now before i go stab you in

55:29Ben Mandelker: the back to the captain yeah seriously um so uh basically alex is hoping to do better and then in the pantry uh carrie is like come on cleo mo he's like no well i can't worry about what happened last I'm right. You just ought to do better. He's like, that's right. Remember, when this is all done, you've got a beautiful house in New Jersey to go home to, I'm sure. It's like, ah! Last season, I heard a good shift. He was chilled and all that kind of stuff. And then he just fucking fell apart. So when you do get to that point, just give it a moment, okay? Just think about anything you've done in your life where you just push it extra hard.

56:06Ben Mandelker: And then you just kind of, you know, just go right through it. All right? You'll be all right. And then they show clips of that guy from last season who quit after one day.

56:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah, that guy lost it immediately. Oh, my God. I forgot all about that. This is so everyone is noticing that something is really wrong with Mo. I mean, I guess they've shown us little things like he said about the house or whatever, but they haven't really shown us that it's that bad. Right. I guess, do you think it was just the last charter and people calling on his strawberries and stuff like that?

56:42Ben Mandelker: Yeah, to me it seemed like, oh, he messed up, but it didn't seem like he was completely derailed as a human. But they are talking to him like, oh, wow, Moe, like the light's gone out in Moe's eyes.

56:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah, because now the whole thing is like, bring back Moe! So, Carrie's doing his usual walk around with Alex before the guests come. He's like, look at that, that's a pillow. Is that sideways? Pillows are squared rather than be straightly, straightly square, not crooked square. You know, people would see a crooked square pillow and it could mess up their sense of right and wrong. They could fall over the ship. Enjoy. Do you understand that? Straighten that pillow.

57:23Ben Mandelker: These tails look dog shit. They're literally swirled around in the shape of dog shit. Let's fold these tails so they fit in place, okay? I'll make it look better. And so they're doing all these last minute things. things and um now uh here come the guests janessa um so janessa's there janessa's perfectly fine she's like whatever it's she there are these two these two birds are just in the back of the pack and they got like i don't know roped into this yacht trip i'm not sure they even want to be there they're like oh my god like why are we here like this is so annoying can we go on like a separate boat tour.

57:57Ben Mandelker: They're the daughters, right? They're someone's teenage daughters. And they're so funny. Madison is Chad's daughter and Paris is Madison's friend. Chad, I mean, these names, Chad is a daughter named Madison. I mean, come on. It is totally the teenagers from White Lotus. That's totally right.

58:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Oh my god. It's a, what is this? Like an island? I don't know if it's like an island or a country, but I feel fat. Oh, my God. You don't look fat at all. Yes, I do. I feel fat. But you don't look fat. Okay, let's not eat anything. Okay, if I eat something, you tell me, stop it. And then if you eat something, I'll say, you don't look fat. No, you tell me to stop it, too.

58:47Ben Mandelker: And so then, but also they have like a crush on James, I think. Like, oh, my God, look at him. So then, meanwhile, James and Sen are re-rolling the towels because Carrie didn't like them. And then Matt just walks by and goes, these towels look terrible. These towels are shocking. This is how you roll it out. You guys don't even know how to do a towel. What's wrong with you? These towels are garbage. Okay, these are like, I'm the hottest towel here. Okay, there's two things that I know. Slides and towels. And you guys don't know either of them. Okay, let me show you how you do it. You do it like that.

59:15Ben Mandelker: You roll it up like this. so he starts giving like a towel tutorial and he's being a real dick about it and he's being really condescending like they're fucking idiots admittedly they're not that smart they're not smart but he's being such an asshole about it and james is like but we need to do them all the same

59:34Ronnie Karam: we can't just be doing different towel rolls he's like but i'm showing you properly and sounds like but those are shorter than the blue ones so that's why they're not the same looking role they're not the same towel he's like listen that one's short too short though we need to redo that once it matches the rest of these i'm showing you how to do them properly that looks fucking stupid you're stupid she's like then why don't you roll some towel no because i'm not ever gonna roll a towel like that in my life you can take responsibility for that stupid stupid towel not nowhere do you know how many towels i've come into i know towels and then he just like leaves and does push-ups he

1:00:11Ben Mandelker: doesn't help out I'm like you're such a push-ups was hilarious I'm not doing two stupid towels

1:00:23Ronnie Karam: that shit was hilarious it's crazy so then um so Sen sticks up for herself and is not taking shit from this guy and I love it I love it yeah because he keeps trying with her over and over and she's like no like she doesn't even get bothered she's just like no why don't you do a fucking towel it's like that guy's like a freaking fruit fly buzzing around all the time i mean like there's no way matt was a boss and he's a fucking dick yeah um so um carrie is uh

1:00:54Ben Mandelker: talking about uh telling telling uh the guests that they're gonna be going on a james to james bond island and it's gonna be happening later and the teenagers are like

1:01:04Ronnie Karam: um so then now who's that james bond maybe knows that is why does he have his own island

1:01:12Ben Mandelker: uh mo is meanwhile feeling glum and rose is like are you okay and he says i just feel like i can't relate to nobody sometimes like my screensaver is a picture of a black sheep and a group of white sheep i'm like wow we're getting backstory on the screensaver now he's like and i pointed an arrow at it and and i wrote me i'm the screensaver well am i the sheep or am i the screensaver am i the thing that shows up when everyone else goes to sleep or am i just the sheep i don't know it works in so many different levels but actually he's being serious because he's talking about you know he's also a person of color in this world of yachting and that has its own challenges because sometimes he feels like a lot of you know he doesn't feel welcomed uh in the community of yacht chefs which is a very real thing and so he's just sort of going through it he's very hard on himself and uh it's all just sort of compounding on him right now yeah i was and i wasn't obviously

1:02:07Ronnie Karam: laughing i was laughing before you said that part i was just laughing at the actual getting a screenshot circling the black sheep and then writing on your phone like me like just in case just in case someone sees your screenshot and doesn't really get what you mean yeah he's like Yeah, this is what I'm going through. So James Bond Island. So Fraser and Rosa are joining the guests for their excursion. Fraser is doing the usual. These islands are like Avatar. Just stunningly amazing. I can't believe we're here. Fun Fraser.

1:02:49Ben Mandelker: Fun Fraser loves Avatar. You know what I love? Sigourney Weaver and a Foreign Planet Avatar, Fun Fraser So then, uh, Laundry

1:02:59Ronnie Karam: Sigourney, Dream Weaver, am I right? Also, this is a stolen line because the other guests last week were like, oh my god these islands are like Avatar I mean, I feel like it's pretty bad when you can't even make up your own tour guide Also, like, you're going to an island

1:03:18Ben Mandelker: that's, like, famous for James Bond so why don't you say, wow these islands it's like we're in the james bond film why are you making why are you adding another movie on to this it's we're in james bond land today not avatar sorry this is like a blue sigourney

1:03:33Ronnie Karam: weaver having a martini shaken and not stirred fun forever have you ever wondered what it would be

1:03:41Ben Mandelker: like to be in the land of avatar where a man named sam would never break through in hollywood despite being in one of the most successful films of all time. Wow. Sam Worthington. Failure. I love these islands.

1:03:59Ben Mandelker: Sam Worthlessington.

1:04:01Ronnie Karam: Avatar. Avatar. So now we go to the laundry room and pantry, and Kaylee is asking when the guests are coming back. She's going to make welcome drinks. And Rainbow's like, I don't know what that girl's fucking mindset is. Serious. And now Kaylee's getting the drinks ready, talking to Mo, and she's like, well, I tried to do so many things. I tried to do theater and audition for kids, and I went completely blank in my audition, so obviously I didn't get the role.

1:04:33Ben Mandelker: I couldn't remember the name of that one really famous song, Memory. Yes, that's it. That's it. so then rainbow so rainbow is uh checks in on kaylee to make sure she's on task and rainbow's like um kaylee's obviously pretty green and she's like not used to this fast pace of a program sorry she thinks she can compete with me but kaylee's spirit animal is a golden retriever puppy that i'm hotter than okay i'm like a hotter puppy okay that's kaylee hmm james bond island

1:05:06Ronnie Karam: And everyone's exploring. And Janessa's like, oh, my God, it's James Bond Island, you guys. This is where they filmed a scene from a movie, The Man with the Golden Gun. And Fraser's like, wow, look at this. They filmed something here. Shall we take a picture?

1:05:24Ben Mandelker: So then they reenact this dual scene from the movie. And everyone's like, yay. and uh meanwhile just rainbow's watching from the boat having trauma flashbacks to her sister she and her sister brawling on an island just like islands um so then uh interior dining room uh fraser fraser is meeting rainbow uh to check on her work and um uh rainbow is complaining because kaylee she spent the whole afternoon sort of just like wafting around draping herself on door frames and talking to people. And the only thing she ever, she did the whole day was clean the pantry upstairs.

1:06:05Ronnie Karam: For two hours, that's where you need to step up your game. And you need to say, this needs to be done. You need to be assertive and make the girls work. All right. Do you want to do the beach picnic tomorrow on your own? I think if you do it with Kaylee, you know, you might be able to put what we just discussed into practice. And she's like, okay. go wrong yeah i mean fraser has such high expectations of me it's like terrifying like the pressure on my shoulders is like so much higher than ever before

1:06:38Ben Mandelker: so uh the guests come back and um the uh as they're going downstairs to get dressed and everything and we see the hot tub is sloshing around one of my favorite things that happens below deck is when they showed the hot tub slosh him and that's what's happening right now and uh it's like it's an ominous slosh that we know is going to be bad news for alex and sure enough eventually carrie goes upstairs like oh it's a hot tub sloshing and so it's like gary gary alex listen okay look what's hip you didn't drain the hot tub it's sloshing about it's sloshing about like a steak and bernay sauce my favorite over a potato don't like to see it in hot tub form though

1:07:20Ronnie Karam: if this was full of heavy cream and bacon grease we could have given it to someone's ex-husband but it's not and this is disturbing he's like oh god sorry you told me to turn it on and i turned it on but then i forgot to turn it off oh geez so interior uh dining table everybody's getting ready it's a james bond theme guys and um one of the girls is saying oh my god was james bond fat oh my god i hope not you don't look fat you don't look fat either i hope we don't look like james by so old yeah i'm not gonna be old i love you madison i love you paris i love you

1:07:59Ben Mandelker: too chase daughter oh my god so then um in the kitchen in the galley kerry is like so mo in an attempt to get your mojo back let me ask you a question where do you live he goes well we just sold the house so i lived nowhere oh all right well where where was it where did you live he's like jersey it's a bit sad man i mean 30 something years we lived in that house and jerry's like all right well anyway good chat go check on that sloshing around hot tub

1:08:34Ronnie Karam: great story can't see can't wait to see we said for your first course which is a caesar salad but instead of croutons he's put a little bit of salad on top of a croissant i don't know why the fuck was this was crazy i don't know this one was crazy i'm not gonna

1:08:55Ben Mandelker: poo-poo it because i can see the thought process and i can see if you season the croissant right that could actually be quite lovely but but there was something about that it was like he took the croissant he also like kind of flattened it a bit it was just like a flat it was like a croissant had fallen off a building and then like salad fell on top, like tripped and fell over the flat croissant. I don't know why the whole thing just made me giggle. You know me. Yeah, I was cracking

1:09:20Ronnie Karam: up at that one.

1:09:21Ben Mandelker: A silly Caesar, you know?

1:09:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah. But the guests, this crew is easy. You know, luckily. The last group was the most difficult and this group is the easiest, right? Wow. Some salad on top of a squash daled croissant. Mmm, delicious. why are you so he's so creative you know my late husband would have really loved this

1:09:45Ben Mandelker: you know what and she does say that um you know what i think sorry just circling back to the croissant situation i think that maybe what i would have done was made the croutons croutons

1:09:56Ronnie Karam: croutons out of the croissant yeah i've heard of that like croissant because they're just

1:10:01Ben Mandelker: there was something about a big flat croissant that did not look very refined i will say it It looked a little, it was interesting, but it looked, it didn't, it didn't look right. Right. It looks like an alligator.

1:10:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah. That didn't look good. So then the next, I don't know what they have next, but they end with a deconstructed chocolate lava cake, which is also weird. Cause it's like a puck on a Caesar salad. Cause it's, you know, the little puck of the chocolate cake and then you pour a sauce over it. but that's not what lava cake is. Lava cake is an undercooked chocolate cake that's just undercooked in the middle. So I don't know. This was definitely a depression meal.

1:10:48Ben Mandelker: This was not, I would not say that this is refined. Like I love myself a chocolate lava cake, but those are dated. I mean, it's, if you're, it's, it's, I actually kind of, I don't mind that he deconstructed it because the truth is this. I can't stand when you get a lava cake and you cut into it and there's no lava and then you're then you are just eating chocolate just a

1:11:10Ronnie Karam: well i think that's the thing i think maybe this force is i think you just didn't make it right

1:11:16Ben Mandelker: there we go there we go i think that's correct but but but in a certain way like this way you always get the goo like you're forcing the goo so i sort of appreciate that but it is not it's but it's not a it's not chocolate it's not a it's not a lava cake it's just a chocolate cake with sauce it wasn't goo it was a very thin sauce i don't i wasn't looking at it i was listen i love

1:11:38Ronnie Karam: a chocolate lava cake so i think if you serve a deconstructed lava cake and basically you serve a cooked through cake really anybody who loves lava cake is gonna say you just read you just did this wrong yeah that isn't lava cake it's just i wasn't looking i don't think i was looking at

1:11:54Ben Mandelker: the screen during this lava cake moment so i didn't realize that the sauce was just like a thin chocolate syrup. And that's, that's not right. That's completely unacceptable.

1:12:03Ronnie Karam: Oh yeah. Of all the parts of the show that I complain about, like, oh, the, it's about like kids and pretending to be in relationships. I'm sick of this, or I'm sick of that. No, no, no, no, no. When the food comes out, I'm like, that's the food and the service. That's what I'm paying attention to. All lies. This is my favorite part. I'm like croissant under a Caesar and an underbaked lava cake that you are now calling deconstructed. You are fired. You are fired. Pack up your depression and leave but i think that was just so actually like mo this just this seemed like it

1:12:33Ben Mandelker: was great it was depression he seems lovely i think by and large his food is good but this did this did feel like a little it just did not feel like a refined meal and i think i just was so consumed with that croissant with the caesar on top that um i just was not paying attention to the lava cake the other thing about the croissant the caesar if i may be indulged is that it kind of gives like lunch like a lunchtime item like it's like having a caesar salad wrap you know except it's like a croissant i think it should have been croissant croutons

1:13:05Ronnie Karam: i really feel that strongly about that all right so everybody goes to bed and mo's tossing and turning throughout the night like you just can see a big dry croissant in his head and now it's the second day of charter and um alex is talking to matt about being a boson on a large motor yacht and alex is like well i'm beginning to see the scope of my job and it has to be more organizational which means i'm going to have to rely on you more to take the lead matt and he's like i do already they don't like it but i do it fuck it needs to be done i don't care i'll tell them that

1:13:43Ben Mandelker: tells her wrong it's like well just try to try and be nice it's like oh i'm nice most of the time it's like well james and sen are a little bit sensitive especially the sense you know she's a girl it's like well i if i have to piss someone off you know i tell them what to do like so be it um so then matt says alex is obviously taking it easy on jesena because he has a crush on her he's also letting her talk back a lot and i think he's making the team look bad oh she's talking back too much i'm sorry that's the issue is that jesanya is the one that's talking back you don't like when people talk back is there an exception for you is that what's going on okay fine and then he says i think he's making the team look bad and that's why i'm trying to steal his job haha

1:14:30Ronnie Karam: yeah except the problem is you're supposed to lead all these people and you're making every single one of them hate you you just yeah you're not as great as this at this as you think so now the uh deck team is pulling out toys and inflatables and all that good stuff and send send goes up to matt like so matt what about you like what's your childhood trauma so and it's so below deck they're like okay send go over there and talk about trauma we don't have enough trauma for matt get over

1:15:04Ben Mandelker: there and it's like it's the most obvious paint by numbers trauma for someone like this he's like well my parents who just were separated and probably moved around a lot of different schools and i went to seven different schools and you know deep down i never thought about it it was very deep but i was a problem child so yeah i do feel guilty for being such a he's basically like i got no attention my my parents broke up it was a tough household blah blah it's like exactly what you

1:15:27Ronnie Karam: expect from this guy it was so hard because i had to keep changing schools i had to find new people to bully every time. Do you know how many pairs of glasses my parents ended up having to pay for that I broke?

1:15:42Ben Mandelker: Yeah, you know what? You know, as a parent, it's your job. He says, I was a problem child. I was a brat. But as a parent, it's your job to teach me not to be a brat. Okay, I don't be a dick. So I'm trying to be nice. I'm trying to be nice. I'm like, yeah, I mean, your parents should have probably poured a little bit more into you. That's what it does. You know, I do, what we will i do love to blame the parents for things but you're also an adult now so it was one thing for you to be like 13 and a brat but now you're you know 23 and like you can't blame your parents anymore this is on you yeah your parents did do a shitty job though i think that you're

1:16:18Ronnie Karam: correct on that uh so then fraser over here is mo telling himself let it go let it go and he's there in the bedroom and fraser's like are you all right and he's like i've just got to get my shit back mentally, man. He's like, um, hmm. Well, as someone who's considered extremely inspirational, I'll tell you this.

1:16:43Ronnie Karam: You're doing quite well. Did that make you feel good? He's just talking from the top bunk. Do you feel better, Mo? Did that work?

1:16:54Ben Mandelker: Mo, why don't you make out with The stranger at the bar make Matt jealous. I don't know. It seemed to work last night. So he's like, I hope.

1:17:02Ronnie Karam: You know, I'm being honest, because if you weren't doing well, I would tell you, Mo, you're doing well. But then I would tell the chef, Mo's not doing well. And then the chef would tell you, you're not doing well, somebody told me. Do you see how that works? That hasn't happened to you, which means you're doing well.

1:17:19Ben Mandelker: So Fraser says, I really hope he doesn't quit, because if he does, then I get fucked. And so Fraser is like, keep it together, chef. I can't be working with someone else. So what will happen to poor Fraser? Is this situation going to go to shit? It will. It will. Mo's going to leave. He has had too much backstory to be here all season.

1:17:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And he's just saying he doesn't want to quit. He doesn't want to quit. He doesn't want to quit. But he will quit. He will quit. So I don't know. I don't know what happened to Mo. but that's sad so see ya i hope we get someone insane to come in i hope you think it's gonna be do you think it's going to be ellie do you want peace of me it could be it could they could they

1:18:10Ben Mandelker: she did finish her culinary tour so uh or her culinary schooling it could be ellie or it could be someone like random like i don't know it might be someone like disappointing like one of the like one of those forgettable chefs from um below deck sailing there was like a string of forgettable ones i don't know we'll see we'll see what happens or maybe not at all all right well

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