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15 Nov 2026 · 55m · 14 chapters

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#3616 Southern Charm S12E01 Part One: Austen Spitty Limits

In short

Watch What Crappens recaps Southern Charm Season 12 Episode 1 Part One, focusing on a Maui trip, birthday banter, and the season’s central “love child” rumor, plus character setups (pets, Craig’s fridge/ceiling hole, and Austin/Sally dynamics).

Guests

Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam (podcast hosts). No other episode guests are introduced.

Guest backgrounds

Ben Mandelker is the show’s host for Watch What Crappens. Ronnie Karam is the co-host; he discusses travel disruptions and live-show appearances in Austin, plus being a returning Bravo podcast personality.

Key claims

The “love child” storyline is teased as a major mystery; the hosts speculate it involves Wittner (with Craig and Austin also debated). They argue Sally is repeatedly confused about Austin treating her as a hookup, and that both Austin and Sally contribute to the dynamic. They praise Southern Charm’s music/sound mix and describe it as unusually strong for a screener.

Notable examples

Maui birthday for Austin; Allie is introduced as a “local model” and shows a baby photo; Craig’s “bottled” fridge and unexplained ceiling hole; Craig’s Switzerland solo snowboarding “isolation” self-growth; Sally’s ice-water micro-drama with a GoPro shot; Austin’s past “bar rat/slutty” comments at the reunion.

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Chapters

3:29

Travel Tales and Technical Troubles

Hosts share their travel experiences and technical issues from their live show.

“By a former guest member of the real world.”
7:27

Upcoming Live Shows and Celebrations

Details about upcoming live shows and a birthday celebration.

9:10

Southern Charm Season 12 Preview

The hosts discuss the premiere of Southern Charm Season 12 and its music.

“It's so good, and every second of the show is a musical cue.”
14:00

Introduction to Southern Charm Season 12

The hosts discuss the opening of the new season and set the stage for the drama ahead.

“I would love to tell you when this plane is going to take off, but I just don't know.”
23:01

Speculating on the Love Child

The hosts speculate on the identity of the love child and introduce various characters.

“And then Allie's like, I've got a picture of the baby.”
28:00

Molly's Animal Kingdom and Craig's Fridge

The hosts discuss Molly's chaotic home filled with animals and Craig's unique fridge contents.

“Fashion does not care about temperature.”
30:00

Craig's Relationship with Jack

Craig and Jack's dynamic is explored, highlighting Craig's struggles with loneliness and dependence.

“Why can't you just say yes to what's standing right in front of you?”
33:30

Craig's Self-Discovery in Switzerland

Craig shares his experience in Switzerland and attempts to brand it as a journey of personal growth.

“Craig has gotten into a lot of trouble with that pool.”
36:20

Micro-Dramas and Craig's Acting

The hosts discuss micro-dramas and Craig's recent acting opportunities, reflecting on the nature of success in entertainment.

“be walking by with the dog on a leash they could get tangled up and i don't know maybe we could fall over on each other.”
42:48

Sally's Struggles with Austin

Discussion on Sally's complicated relationship with Austin and her feelings of confusion.

“You want to have some water from the ice?”
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48:35

The Nature of Relationships in Reality TV

Exploration of the patterns of relationships in reality TV and the expectations placed on women.

“Do you think he's going to put a cow in there?”
56:00

Analyzing Austin and Kyle's Complicated Relationships

Discussion revolves around the dynamics of relationships in the show, focusing on Austin and Kyle's actions.

58:04

Boundaries and Kinks in Relationships

Exploration of the unique boundaries and flirtations between the characters, likened to a kink dynamic.

“And then she, you know, they have these talks where he, you know, tells her really shitty, horrible things like he did at the reunion and like publicly humiliates her.”
59:32

Frustration with Recurring Drama

Hosts express their exhaustion with the repetitive nature of the show's drama and character interactions.

“Cause we were going to do it 10, 20 more times.”
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1:54Ronnie Karam: Different perspectives help me notice more. Fans break down the strategy, rethink a big moment, and explain why they saw a move totally differently than I did.

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3:00Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me this Saturday evening, afternoon, evening, it's Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Well, hello. Wow. Unfortunately, Ronnie got snarled in the FAA Travel Zaster, brought to you in part by the real world. By a former guest member of the real world.

3:32Ronnie Karam: um at our live show in austin this week this had just happened all the flights were shut down and everything so we were talking about it in our opening in the live show in austin which by the way dallas and austin you really showed out for us showed up showed out turned out thank you all turned it out for us little hookers yeah but thank you all so much we had a great time but we were talking about this all and technical disasters and how you can trust or not trust ai and blah blah blah and then they didn't record the first 15 minutes i mean it's just been that kind of a weekend and then you get to there yeah exactly it's canceled and then they're you know poor bueller's on his way to la and i'm not even on my way to la what am i gonna do with the bueller

4:11Ben Mandelker: so i'm very worried over here ronnie's two flights got canceled i was fortunate my flight not only was it not canceled it was like you will be arriving early i was like whoa except we didn't arrive early because people getting on the plane were idiots and it took forever um but uh yeah i mean it just goes to show errors are just going to error whether it's going to be an ai error or a human error because we had human error with our show last night ai well actually the the faa thing had nothing to do with ai errors but it still will hey i will make plenty of errors

4:40Ronnie Karam: i thought it was the rumor was that it was because they switched everything over to ai recently and no traffic control maybe it's been fucking everything up if maybe conspiratorially

4:51Ben Mandelker: But what I read was that there was some system that was being upgraded from copper to optics. And in the process of doing this, it overloaded a router and it caused chaos around the entire world. Something like that. Who knows? Who cares?

5:08Ronnie Karam: It's a communication outage. And then Ramona, of course, reliably went on her social and was like, what? And she was wearing some weird like teased pigtails and some odd cocktail, like black cocktail prom dress from the 80s. I'm not sure what was going on with Ramona. She was like, whoa, you know what? All these flights are grounded. That's just not normal. That doesn't happen. And they said it's because of a FAA outrage. Like what even is that? What is the FAA outrage? Yes. she was so serious and then she's like yeah flight's been grounded not normal what do you

5:49Ben Mandelker: think wink what do you think whoa what happened i don't know but um i i'm very very happy that my flight got me back to la even if i did have to sit directly adjacent to a toddler even if i did have to sit a few rows behind the filmmakers who made plan demic you know my mask was on with the plandemic filmmakers on did i tell you this did i text you this no yeah they i knew it was them because they were wearing sweatshirts that said plandemic and they had like all this plandemic stuff on and then when i got off the plane they were doing a selfie they're like hey guys just landed for the premiere for the next maha you know conspiracy theory thing that'll you know this ridiculous disinformation so i'm like i got these disinformation nut jobs on my plane i've got a toddler next to me.

6:38Ben Mandelker: And by the way, a dog shat all the way up the jetway getting off. They had to put down little garbage pails, you know, to me. They're like, step to the right, please. And I'm just like, dog diarrhea all the way up for whatever service animal that was more like disservice. Maybe they needed to be vaccinated. Sorry, pandemic people. But it was all worth it because it meant I got home to LA. And I was like, ah, I am so glad. it was such a fun time in texas we had so much fun in dallas we had a road trip we had austin it was just tremendous really the best time but i was like i am now ready to clock off for the week it's like nope southern charm and so here we are here we are when you're done you're done and the world

7:19Ronnie Karam: is like guess what you're not done you're not done so bravo could we still have obligations

7:26Ben Mandelker: and um and i felt i was meanwhile i'm a mess over here as you can see me squirming all over

7:31Ronnie Karam: the place on this camera because I came home and ate my feelings and now I've got pizza in between my teeth and I just thought we're on camera maybe I should check my teeth to see if I have feelings left all over my teeth and I do I have pizza all in the middle of my teeth so sorry I've been

7:46Ben Mandelker: cleaning it while we're talking clean your teeth away it's okay it's a Saturday we were allowed to just like let loose a little bit here uh but I what I will say is again thanks everyone who came out i'm really i'm actually really bummed that the first uh the first 10 minutes or so of our live show were not recorded because we did have funny things to say about the faa and um so apologies for that but you know what though come to the light if you come to the live show you don't miss those first 10 minutes though and that's a great segue to mention that we'll be in nashville and in clearwater and in fort lauderdale all in the second week of december and that will be right after my birthday so let's celebrate my birthday for three straight days across tennessee and florida let's do it all together party with me party with ronnie i was looking up to see um december 10th december 10th is i think it's very sad i looked i was looking to see what celebrities were born that's our fort lauderdale show i was like we can like every day we could be like it's so-and-so's birthday we'll celebrate it on our live show it was rod blagojevich and like no one else i was like wow why is december 10th so sad for celebrity birthdays i was like surely there's like a december 10th is national something another day it was like national logger day which hey that's not bad but the point is this we're going to be celebrating something on december 10th and 9th and 8th and we're gonna have a great time watch what crap is that yeah

9:10Ronnie Karam: yeah watch what crap happens.com i'll see you over there yeah okay so um now we have southern charm season 12 episode one wow southern charm is back and let me tell you the best character on this show is still here year after year it's even better than ever this year the music the music on this show is so good and we have a screener for it and you know a lot of times in screeners especially for the first episode of the season or whatever they don't have the proper sound mix down yet oh no yes haven't finished so the volume of the voices are very low and then the music is like which normally would be kind of annoying and you're like well it's the screener but it's Southern Charm, and it's like Broadway level.

9:54Ronnie Karam: I'm telling you. It's so good, and every second of the show is a musical cue. And they've really taken that one piece of music, the theme music, that they probably made for$5 10 years ago, or 12 years ago, and they are just doing new things with it every single time. I mean, it's just so good. You guys did a great job over there.

10:17Ben Mandelker: And I have to tell you, there's something really special. when you're sitting on an airplane and you're watching the screener and you have it in your ears and it's it's blasting that music it's like you know that note that that music that plays like

10:35Ben Mandelker: and you're listening to this music as one of the idiot people from plandemic is trying to shove a bag into an overhead compartment and can't get it in it's like

10:44Ronnie Karam: it's like enjoy your measles so if they released if they released the southern charm soundtrack i would totally buy it and play it during days like this where it's just flight after flight being canceled idiot after idiot in front of you people cutting you off people falling down people screaming at ticketing agents you know but the whole time you're just like

11:07Ronnie Karam: southwest would just like to be honest with you

11:12Ben Mandelker: it's been a long day believe it or not the toddler next to me was the toddler next to me was fine this is shocking news everyone i was not really i actually i liked the mom was super sweet she was like wiping down her whole seat and her toddler's area and like when you're on a plane with people who went out of their way to make a movie to spread disinformation at the height of the pandemic i I just really appreciated her effort to just like disinfect things. And she was doing this. I really did. And she was like, do you want to wipe? I was like, I'm okay. She's like, I'm a germaphobe. I was like, look, I've got a mask on.

11:48Ben Mandelker: I get it. And we sort of like laughed and everything. And she was like so sweet. And her toddler was fine. I had noise canceling. I had blaring Southern Charm music in. So I couldn't even hear the toddler. But the mom did, she just kept on tapping her husband sitting in front. And she just, every little thing. and she kept on like lurching forward, lurching forward to give an update. Like she wants to touch the window. I keep telling her you can't touch the window, but she wants to touch the window. I'm like, not everyone needs to know that the toddler wants to touch the window. We just sit quiet, both of you.

12:16Ben Mandelker: And then the pandemic guy, it was like a whole -

12:19Ronnie Karam: They'll crawl out the window.

12:23Ben Mandelker: The pandemic guy, it was like a whole crew. It was like the pandemic guy and it was like a group of people. And someone from the group was all the way back behind me and then like walked up in the middle of the flight to go talk to the people in this group and i can't stand this when people stand in the middle of the aisle and just talk to someone in their seat because they talk very loudly and like i had noise cancelling headphones in and southern charm music and i could hear this guy's piercing voice like oh yeah well you know the thing is about the this is like oh it's gonna be our only great thing and we got some really great coverage on this i was like shut up and take your seat plandemic i'll tell you though speaking of southern charm no one no one would have been happier than Craig Conover to be on that flight.

13:04Ben Mandelker: I'll tell you that much. He would have been like, you're an autograph.

13:07Ronnie Karam: I know we need to start this recap, but I did want to say it was Southwest. I was supposed to be flying today. And you know, like it's a national thing. I'm not going to take it personally, you assholes. But finally, the last plane that got canceled, it was sitting on the tarmac. We all see the plane there. We just want to get on the fucking plane. Everybody had been waiting all day or since yesterday. And finally, the guy comes on And he's like, guys, Southwest Airlines just really wants to be honest with you. We don't know what's going on with this plane. I mean, it is rough out there. And then he just starts going on like he's like, well, and then the thing happened last night.

13:46Ronnie Karam: That was just terrible. Flights weren't going out for eight hours. And, you know, flight attendants have to go home, too. They have families. They need to sleep as well. And they're unionized. You know, they can only work a certain number of hours. So we've got a plane, but we don't have people. You know what? I would love to tell you when this plane is going to take off, but I just don't know. It's a mess.

14:06Ben Mandelker: Click. And goodbye. It just makes you think back to that guy from JetBlue who just like one day just opened up the exit on the tarmac and just slid down the slide.

14:21Ronnie Karam: Slide down the slide and get the fuck out. Okay, so we open with something from later in the season. And we know it's later in the season because Whitney's there making an effort to stir shit up. So I don't know if that means nothing happens this season that they drag Whitney out. And they're like, all right, let's go somewhere tropical. Have Whitney wear all black and start some shit. But here we are. It's the end of the season. They're in Maui this time. And Madison's like, all right, everybody. It's out since last year in the 30s. So happy birthday to Austin Crow. You know, he's never going to be 30 again.

14:58Ronnie Karam: And knowing he ever dates is going to be above 30. So let's cheers to that.

15:03Ben Mandelker: I know you might be confused. I just want to say it's a dual birthday because it is Austin's last year in his 30s and his voice is last year in his 70s. Okay. Happy birthday, both of you.

15:14Ronnie Karam: You know, Austin may not stay in his 20s, but his tongue knows what it's like not to stay somewhere. His mouth. Usually. And Austin's like, oh. Madison. What? Madison.

15:25Ben Mandelker: Madison. So Craig's like, this is the coolest trip we've been on as a group. And Whitney's like, mother, there's an elephant in the room. Which is that we kind of need to address this. The assumption is that one of you has a love child. And Austin's like, oh, my God. And Sally's like, oh, you. Well, I heard about this thing like weeks ago. That's me, Sally, hearing about things. and then we meet Allie because there's going to be this show, there's Sally and Allie

15:58Ronnie Karam: Sally and Allie and Charlie and Marley and Darlene Wally and Squally you know

16:04Ben Mandelker: Allie who we later learn is a local model which I thought was the funniest little chyron that she got Local model

16:11Ronnie Karam: Allie Local model Yeah, this show every year is going to cast somebody for, you know, somebody very, very young and beautiful for these guys to pretend that they have a crush on for a year and then torture them and then dump them and then we watch them get recast with somebody else you know we see charlie back this year this is what happened with charlie last year and she's back this year with her other thirst bomb justin i don't think it's going to work out really a lot for charlie she does have a couple lines at the end though yeah but she's definitely been demoted so show us human trafficking and we all know it let's face it and did this girl have to sleep with whitney like everybody else to get on this show there's this show is just downright fishy at this point and i can't

16:54Ben Mandelker: believe there's no hr digging into shit no no definitely not so um madison's like hey how do you know about this baby and sally's like there's a picture and rodrigo's like i also saw the picture of the weekend but no one listens because it's rodrigo and he's perpetually at the end of the table just saying things quietly and everyone's like uh-huh yeah like girl what what

17:17Ronnie Karam: What? And Wittner, who has had his season two douche up because he came on last year and everyone's like, oh, my God, Wittner is such a good guy. Wittner is so clearly a douche. I mean, last year it was pretty clear he was going to be a douche because he started off with the whole I was engaged and I was so in love. And then suddenly she just left me and I have no idea. So anyway, I'm heartbroken. Oh, really? You have no idea, do you? No idea.

17:46Ben Mandelker: I definitely feel like the douche shoe is going to drop soon. But I still like him a good deal. And I just love the mindset of that. I will like you until I don't have to like you anymore. And then I won't like you. So right now, I see it on the horizon. I know it's coming. But I'm just going to enjoy it. You can see.

18:04Ronnie Karam: I can. I'm not saying you personally. I feel like there is a definite change in him this year. I think he's got the Southern Charm fame thing where he's got the Bravo ass pass, which means he's going to be getting assed for the rest of the time. He's in Charleston. And he's definitely got that swagger, confidence. I don't know what it is. And normally I wouldn't diss somebody for that. I don't know. There's definitely a douche glow here. And when the love child thing is brought up, he's like, oh, I mean, well, I mean, talking about that's pretty fucked up, right, guys? That's, whoa, whoa. Like, whoa, whoa.

18:45Ben Mandelker: So, uh.

18:46Ronnie Karam: Reckoning somebody and then completely ignoring the child is fine. But talking about it on TV, get your manners together. Your manners. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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20:19Ronnie Karam: Sometimes nobody in my group chat watches the show I care about, and that's fine because r slash television is full of fans who are just as invested as I am. There's always someone ready to celebrate a big move, argue about a blind side, and keep the conversation going long after the episode ends.

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20:44Ronnie Karam: Different perspectives help me notice more. Fans break down the strategy, rethink a big moment, and explain why they saw a move totally differently than I did.

20:52Ben Mandelker: And the jokes and the shared reactions turn small moments into something the whole community enjoys together. When the season ends, fans, with my taste, help me find the next show that's worth watching.

21:01Ronnie Karam: That's why I turn to my favorite subret, Bravo Real Housewives. It's where I get all of my housewives news and commentary, breakdowns on episodes, and just to find other people who care about these shows as much as I do.

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23:00Ben Mandelker: So they're all like, oh my God, the baby, who's baby? And then Allie's like, I've got a picture of the baby. And so Allie shows it in masks and looks at it and goes, well, that's a beautiful baby. And it's like, dun, dun, dun.

23:13Ronnie Karam: Three months later. It may just be a love child, but it's a gorgeous love child. And thank God, because what if they pulled out the picture and Madison's like, oh, my God, that's a love child? That's one of the ugliest things I've ever seen. What kind of love was that thing born out of? Ew.

23:29Ben Mandelker: So. Who did it? Who did it? Who had the love child?

23:35Ronnie Karam: We have to guess.

23:36Ben Mandelker: That's the beginning of the season. What did we say in the trailer? Because we made guesses in the trailer. What did we say there?

23:43Ronnie Karam: I was guessing it was Austin. But now that I've seen this all play out, I would go with Wittner. Because Wittner's like, whoa, we can't talk about this. And Craig, too, is very much like, I will not do this. Absolutely not. We will not discuss anyone's love.

24:00Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I'm trying to think of who seemed the most rattled. By the way, does it have to be that the love child belongs to one of the men? Can it just belong to one of the women? I guess it belongs to one of the men Because Presumably it was a woman from outside the group Who has the baby

24:23Ben Mandelker: I guess it could be I feel like Austin and Austin and Shep Seem like they could be candidates

24:31Ronnie Karam: It's like anybody on this show could do I mean we would believe anybody This is Southern Charm I'm going to go with Wittner I'm going to go with the rumor is Wittner but he didn't really do it or something because you know this show is going to make us wait the entire season and then it's going to be nothing it's going to be nothing i mean well

24:49Ben Mandelker: first of all i mean austin already is he already has a kid so that's already i don't know if he'd want to have a second one right who's his first one i'm a cat dad cat dad doesn't he have two cats actually got two guys yeah double cat dad got that yeah yeah my cats getting inlaid because

25:12Ronnie Karam: that's what i've been ever since i've got cats do a cheeks on it this this season i'm going to start out putting an outfit on a cat it's going to be really hot oh gosh i'm going to say you're going

25:25Ben Mandelker: to say craig wow okay because i feel like he is the least likely to use a condom or like birth control since he's like of the tinfoil you know i feel like he doesn't i think he's the most likely to be maha and so um you know in the spirit of pandemic uh i'm gonna say that it's it's craig

25:46Ronnie Karam: i'm gonna i'm gonna go with craig all right i'm gonna go with whitner okay okay i'm gonna be indelicate because it's a saturday i think probably has had multiple children who calls it love children anymore i didn't know that was i think shep would have like paid the woman off

26:01Ben Mandelker: and be like, you have to get an abortion. I'm sorry. I think that's what would have happened. I think it's, I'm giving it to Craig. I know it's in Delicate, but I think that's, but sorry, everyone. It's a Saturday. It's an Indelicate Saturday.

26:14Ronnie Karam: It's an Indelicate Saturday.

26:16Ben Mandelker: All right, I'm going to give it to Witt. Guys, hot and delicate Saturday.

26:24Ronnie Karam: Okay, so now we are, now it's three months previous to this thing that's not even going to be a real storyline, or we all would have heard it by now on Reddit. So we're going to catch up with everybody.

26:41Ronnie Karam: Austin's with his cat, Martini. And like we said before, put a dress on that cat. And he's like, let me look at you in your dress, Martini. And he holds up Martini, and Martini's like...

26:55Ben Mandelker: Why? Why? Why? Look, dogs, you can put all sorts of things on dogs. People put all sorts of outfits And they die Cats How did he get a dress on this cat I'm shocked Cats are like They're not down for the They're not down for a couture

27:17Ronnie Karam: Austin's just cracking up The cat's having a fit And he's like Whoa this is the worst thing Let's ever happen to you martini This is hilarious

27:26Ben Mandelker: Martini So then we see Vanita and she is gardening and guess who shows up? Charles, her dog. The whole intro is very pet heavy. So it's like Charles and she's like, Charles, get out of here. You're on my dress. It's like, of course, classic Vanita and Charles.

27:42Ronnie Karam: Classic Vanita. Vanita seen at home with her dogs. Or dog. And usually Charlie has a cute little sweater or something. Was he in a sweater today?

27:53Ben Mandelker: I wasn't looking. I don't think Charles was in a sweater. I think it was warm. Charles was going commando.

28:00Ronnie Karam: Fashion does not care. Fashion does not care about temperature. So then we go to Molly's, and Molly's like, oh, my God, my cats are fighting. It's a fucking zoo over here. And then she's holding up a window screen, and the lizard is clinging to the screen. Oh, that Molly. It's a lady with 9 ,000 animals and a piano keyboard and a microwave with a record player inside of it. God knows what else is in that house. Hoarder Molly.

28:30Ben Mandelker: She's a cute order. Yeah, order Molly. Yeah. Then we go to Patricia's, and Whitney's like, Mother, what the hell's all this crap? She's like, they're dog clothes that I've collected over the years. I don't know what these are, though. And it's like some sort of booties for the dog. They look like stripper shoes.

28:48Ronnie Karam: Like stripper shoes for dogs. And then we go to Craig's, and Craig is looking through his fridge. You can tell a lot about a person from their fridge. Craig has a lot of bottled things. It's like bottled pickles, bottled drinks, bottled, you know, things. I don't know. It's just a lot of bottles. There's no plastics in there. No, you know, do you like tuna? There's no like, I don't know, little square plastic thing of tuna or anything. It's just anything bottled.

29:17Ben Mandelker: He just all bottles. Just anything.

29:21Ronnie Karam: Bottling it up.

29:23Ben Mandelker: All bottles. Yeah. Well, you know, he's a storyteller. He loves a bottle episode. so he's there with jack his trusty assistant jack who they are giving the edit that jack is in love with craig because they keep everything craig says they just cut to jack like looking at him with start with his like hearts in his eyes and um craig is like i need to drink a coffee or some tea everything's expired because i haven't been here bummer So

29:54Ronnie Karam: Yeah Jack I'm like resetting the living room Because I think it's going to be a little while Before we have it fixed He's like well I mean it looks good Even though there's a giant hole Yeah we haven't been home in a week Yeah like I've worked more in sex months Than I've ever worked my entire life He's like yeah Because you don't want to be alone in your head You know so you're like constantly saying yes to everything Except for me

30:18Ben Mandelker: So say You're saying yes to everything So why not say yes to everything.

30:24Ronnie Karam: Why can't you just say yes to what's standing right in front of you?

30:29Ben Mandelker: I'm just a boy standing in front of a man asking him, do you want something other than bottles in your fridge? I can do that.

30:37Ronnie Karam: I'm just a boy standing in front of a man standing in front of a jar of jalapenos.

30:45Ben Mandelker: I'm just a boy standing in front of a man standing under a hole in the ceiling that's unexplained asking him should i mail this um why is there correct why is there why is there a hole in the ceiling craig's like i haven't been home in weeks that does not mean that your ceiling caves in i mean i'm assuming that there was some flooding or whatever but like there just been the ratio of holes in the wall or ceiling um in craig's life i guess there's no ratio but the the sheer amount of them is very alarming well especially because we know that they happen a lot when craig is

31:25Ronnie Karam: stabbing things with butter knives and it's like wow how angry did you get that it's now the ceiling

31:31Ben Mandelker: like that's pretty high up yeah that's i don't know that maybe there was a maybe there was a pipe that burst or something i i don't i don't know it was worse than katrina guys like aaron

31:44Ronnie Karam: from Real Housewives of New York. I'm just asking the internet, why does Craig Conover have a hole in his ceiling? And it doesn't say. You know, I'm telling you, the internet is basically unusable these days. So Craig's like, yeah, well, New York, meaning the reunion, was like a really tough day to have all of your friends piling on you. Like, it was so hard for me. And, you know, I just, I needed time to process that. Craig's so good at being like a sweet little victim if you didn't watch this show you would think this poor guy his friends just attacked him aww yeah

32:24Ben Mandelker: not oh he's been miserable to all of them and they finally decided to get together and tell him how miserable that he makes them he's like now that I'm here I haven't been outside like it's really hard for me to go use my pool by myself it's like a challenge of mine to like what the fuck are you talking about it's hard for you to use your beautiful backyard pool that has like a tanning shelf oh god it's so hard to use it by yourself when meanwhile we already sat through a season of you saying like the thing you love the most is being in your home sanctuary and especially you don't want to have to leave unless you don't have to but now all of a sudden oh god he's stuck there in his beautiful generic that's such a great thing to say though

33:08Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I saw Craig to be like, it's so hard to even be in my pool. Wow. So he's like, yeah, and poor Jack's just sitting there like, well, you don't have to be in your pool alone. I mean, it's not like you don't know anybody who's standing right here with a pair of trunks under their jeans every day, just in case.

33:32Ben Mandelker: Craig has gotten into a lot of trouble with that pool. All of last season was about who gets to swim when. but Craig explains something to us there's been some personal growth some people go on ayahuasca some people go to Peru and try ayahuasca they go on a retreat and they have a mind altering experience that changes everything for them for 36 hours but for Craig he's like I learned it's good to be alone in Switzerland and if you're wondering what he means by that he says I decided to go to Wengen, Switzerland by myself and the goal of the trip was to force myself into isolation. As we see him just snowboarding, he's going to somehow rebrand a snowboarding trip into self-growth.

34:20Ronnie Karam: I did it for everyone, you guys. I did it for humanity. And it taught me, although I love having a girlfriend because I'm very codependent, it's okay if I'm by myself for a little bit longer. that's one week it's so funny how self-aware he is but also just completely it like it doesn't even phase him he's like i really want to be with someone because i'm codependent that's not very flattering you know like i was really obsessed with this girl because i was codependent well that's not who wants i don't know if you say that you should work do something don't just go

34:55Ben Mandelker: snowboarding i know or go snowboarding but then also get therapy this that to me reeked of someone who is getting AI therapy because last year he said that Chachi PT was his therapist. This is how the session probably went. I feel like everyone's mad at me. Maybe I should just be away from the world for a moment. That's a great idea. In fact, I was going to maybe even say that. And I'm so glad you came up with that because I thought that was a wonderful choice. That seems like a great choice. Why don't you go on a vacation by yourself? Yeah, maybe I should just go snowboarding. Wow, you really hit it on the nail on the head.

35:30Ben Mandelker: what a great idea you'll really get some good introspection out there on the slopes

35:36Ronnie Karam: everything's just erica's like i'm so glad i married you encore i'm so glad i married you welcome to built comedy night so craig's like god yeah jack so after my like really deep snowboarding trip to switzerland like now i have to like relearn how to sit on my sofa again and jack's like oh i think you'll be okay popcorn hallmark movies fires in 100 degree weather holding hands with your friend who could be your lifetime partner and friend i mean why just stop at holding hands and having popcorn hallmark am i right it's happening right in front of you hey craig i was

36:17Ben Mandelker: thinking that maybe uh later today i would come walking by with a dog and on a leash and you could be walking by with the dog on a leash they could get tangled up and i don't know maybe we could fall over on each other. Just thinking about it. Who knows? Anyway, Hallmark, I love it.

36:31Ronnie Karam: Yeah, maybe one day I can star in a Hallmark movie. Jack's like, yeah, well, I mean, I think you're basically in one right. Right now, successful pillow maker guy, small town lawyer, making those pillows say just home sweet home question mark. Are we just friends question mark? comes back home maybe a little snotty doesn't realize what's standing right in front of him

36:59Ben Mandelker: yeah maybe i'll be on hallmark someday or you'll be on a strange uh vertical we're called charmed by a southern monster where you'll just be shirtless and playing a deaf mute uh on people's personal devices amen good for him did you watch any of that yeah that cat

37:22Ronnie Karam: No, I watched it. I opened it to watch it, but the Wi-Fi wasn't good enough in the airport. And you can only watch it on the app, on the Peacock app. So I opened the app, and I scrolled down to there's one little thing called recent microdramas. So I clicked on that, and it's a bunch of them. Like Heather Gay has one. Yeah, for her daughter. Watcher Bunch from this show has one. What's her name? We were just talking about her. Really, really, really awesome. Shirley? God damn it. No. Madison? Yes. Madison. love child madison has one love child the interviews so anyway i clicked on the one to watch craig and maybe two seconds of it played but it said zero of 49 and i was like oh i mean i know they're really short but that looked long it was a lot of like little dots like you see on tiktok the little tiny bar little segments to where you have to keep clicking and i was like oh I don't know.

38:17Ronnie Karam: I need this at least on a big screen while I'm laying on the couch. But I'm going to watch it. Did you watch it? That was a long answer. I forgot to watch it.

38:27Ben Mandelker: No. Anyway, so Sally, I don't think I'm going to watch it. Maybe I'll sample some of it. It's our job. I don't know. I just, I don't know. I'll take I think it looks incredible

38:46Ronnie Karam: I think it looks incredible seriously I'm not even joking playing a deaf mute who may or may not and he's like look I'm acting I have longer hair in this and holding an axe in the poster I mean how can you not

39:00Ben Mandelker: love that it is a brilliant move we were all talking about it god I feel bad for Shane Davis here he is working in the trenches on those micro dramas for years just trying to break through and then here Craig does nothing, and then they just hand him a whole series. God, poor Shane Davis.

39:18Ronnie Karam: Well, Shane Davis is very successful in the micro-drama world, isn't he? I don't think you need to worry about him.

39:24Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but he doesn't have an entire network behind him, but I guess you just have to still work your way up.

39:28Ronnie Karam: But networks don't really do micro-dramas. This is something Peacock's like, oh, we're going to be so young and hip and do micro-dramas, but the micro-drama networks who do actually do these have a billion, zillion, trillion views. That's crazy. People are into the micro drama things. Yeah, I definitely watched one. I wouldn't count Shane Davis out. This is what I'm saying.

39:48Ben Mandelker: That's true. I watched a micro drama as much as I could before they start charging. Because I was like, what's this all about? So I went on to one of the websites that does a lot of them. And so they have all sorts of different ones. So I was like, okay, I'll watch the one that's the gay one. It was like a tutor. Like the two high schoolers, the tutor has to tutor the jock and everything. It's like, ooh, will they or won't they? So, you know, it was cute. It was stupid. But you do sort of get sucked in. You're like, okay, this is so dumb, but I'll watch another one. And next thing you know, it's like 10 minutes later, you know?

40:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I watched one where there's like a girl and she's a med student. And she is about to start class. And she meets this handsome guy in the bar. But then she gets roofied by somebody else. And the handsome guy saves her from the roofing guy. and then she wakes up and she you know she falls in love with the guy who saved her and then they have sex and then she goes to school the next day and she finds out that that guy she had sex with is her teacher her professor but then she realized that he doesn't remember like she has amnesia or something like she was so traumatized someone had amnesia and then um then she realized that she was pregnant and then will the doctor accept her and love her and why doesn't the doctor remember her and oh i think the doctor took her roofie drinks and now he has amnesia i mean the whole thing was so stupid and that was all in like six minutes i was like jeez that's a lot of that's a lot of plot that's a lot it's all very bloody way too i left there thinking wow this is just like you know life but i mean i guess that's the point it's camp so then uh greg's like would you watch my hallmark movie and he's like with a hard i mean you'd make me watch it

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42:52Ben Mandelker: so then we go to sally's house and um sally dunks her head into a bucket of ice water and because it's artsy because because this show is breaking all the rules with their micro dramas and whatnot they put a gopro in the in the ice water so you can get a close-up view imagine what it's like to be a ice cube in that in that water seeing sally's face coming right towards you and That's the shot that we got. It was just like, yeah, brr. She starts to get right at that.

43:29Ronnie Karam: She tells her dog she does that. You want to drink some water? You want to have some water from the ice? And then the dog's sniffing. You see him from the bottom of the well or whatever. I kind of want your fucking face product water. Gross. But yeah, she's not feeling good because she goes out, you guys. She calls Vanita because we're girlfriends. shock me up venita we you know we had a rough time last season but we're back to working on being girlfriends again now i went home alone last night i dropped austin off at his house and she's like oh gosh i'm not saying anything you know sally's i'm not saying anything to sally because sally can't take advice about men so i'm just not gonna tell her anymore

44:10Ben Mandelker: yeah and so sally is like yeah we went to the bar but you know i was doing my thing like let the rat do her thing and we see the clip from last year at the reunion where austin's like i mean you're a bar rat you're a slutty slutty bar rat so vanina is like um so you've how have you not annihilated him for saying that oh he feels real bad about it oh my gosh and so just for anybody

44:38Ronnie Karam: who needs a little refresher the reunion every sally is doing the same thing she's doing this season, which is Austin. Why don't you like me? I like you, but why won't you take me? And he's like, cause you're a slut. It's like, but why? Cause you're at the bars every night hitting on guys. But why? I mean, he was so disgusting and so, um, hypocritical because that's what every guy on this show does, you know? Um, and she's like, well, why can't you see me as a girlfriend? And he's basically, uh, he basically tells her in a really, really rude, insensitive ways, why and so the fact that she still not only likes him but is still confused as to why well i mean come on sally it's come it's exhausting somebody who clearly is just doing like who won't stop it's like everybody knows you shouldn't just run into a crosswalk staring at your phone and not looking for traffic you know and everybody knows that everybody knows that and so you see somebody about to do it you don't just say well they don't like being bossed around so i'm just gonna let him get hit by a car you're still supposed to say no stop you're gonna get hit by a car i know you'd be friends with somebody and not tell them this is just everything with sally and austin is the

45:52Ben Mandelker: most predictable outcome of everything we saw last season and in the reunion and now she's now you know it turns out they have fun together and then they get drunk and then they make out but she wants something more but he's not giving her something more and she doesn't understand why and da da da da da and everyone on the show and on the internet has tried to explain this to her i mean i hate to use such a like retrograde thing as like why buy the cow if the milk is is free but like these are retrograde people so the expressions expression it works here this is where these expressions come from like yeah this is where it's from i mean because it's like not only are you giving the milk for free you're you're pouring the glass and you're setting the table and putting out a little napkin and the cookies too.

46:40Ben Mandelker: And that's not me saying, Oh, you're being slutty. I'm just saying like you're the guy. If Austin has a chance to have everything his way, have his cake and eat it too, which Wittner does not like that expression. But like, if he has a chance to do that or chef doesn't like that expression, he's going to, he's going to, you know? And so like,

46:59Ronnie Karam: here's the thing. People do say, people do say that phrase, like why buy the, why buy the cow when you get the milk for free? because cows are really cute and they're better to have around than milk, which just expires. And cows keep giving you stuff and milk doesn't. It just expires on your shelf and you have to keep going to buy milk. When you have a cow, you don't have to. The cow's always there. It's really cute. It gives you company. There's plenty of reasons to buy the cow. So I hate that saying, why buy the cow when you get the milk for free? And also, I don't think it's fair because he gets to do whatever he wants.

47:33Ronnie Karam: And I think that people do commit to people that want to sleep with everybody. They just don't talk about it as much. And I wonder if it's that Sally is so out of the closet about, she's just so open about hooking up with people.

47:48Ben Mandelker: Yeah, he's put her just in the bucket of like, she's a hookup. There's nothing serious there.

47:53Ronnie Karam: Yes, but every show now is about swingers. We just watched a screener of this Bernie show, the Small Town Trouble, Texas. that's all about the women who are like oh we're married but we also like women it's all of them they're all swinging well like half of them and then we also just watched the new mormon oc the secret lives of mormon oc wives whatever and that's a kind of a thing on there too so i think it's i think that now is the perfect time for sally to actually get married and still be able to have a nice swinging relationship and if austin doesn't want to do it she should go find somebody better that does because there are plenty of people that would love a sexually open fun relationship so stop wasting your time with that loser sally and stop making me hear about it yeah go swing with somebody swingable i don't know if this necessarily has to do with swinging i

48:50Ben Mandelker: think it's just like she's hooking up with this guy and she wants something more from him but he's not he doesn't see her as anything more than just a hookup and she doesn't she's like but why but why but why and it's like eventually sal you're gonna get confronted with like a harsh reality which is that austin just he just sees you as the bottle of milk and you and you're you know like what you said is right the cow has a lot of value but this sounds so offensive just whittling it down to cows and milk i'm just trying to ride the metaphor out but the truth is that like you're on a show where you have Craig with a whole fridge full of bottles.

49:24Ben Mandelker: Do you think he's going to put a cow in there? He's just going to put bottles. So, the point is, you should, like, just raise your standards. And by the way, like, we're coming down hard on Sally here when Austin is equally capable of contributing to the situation, and he should also get as much grief, if not more, for taking advantage of this situation and manipulating this girl who clearly has feelings. And it's like, I don't like just coming down on the girl when there's two people here. But what I will say, though, is that like with Sally, you've had, I just like, we want better for you. I think we want better for you.

50:03Ben Mandelker: And also we've told you a lot now. And now you're still asking the same questions. At a certain point, it's like the help desk is closed.

50:12Ronnie Karam: At some point, you're just a dumbass. You know what I mean? I'm sorry. you're just a dumbass sometimes but as far as you bring your computer to us and it's broken well at some point you know and then you do hear about people getting hit in the crosswalk because they're on their phone literally no one cries we all go oh god like we've all been that person and we also all know that we don't want to be that person you know what i mean i know but just bringing it back all over the place but the point is i wanted to say something about the swinging because I'm not saying on these other shows, it's the most, the biggest part of it is the bisexuality part.

50:50Ronnie Karam: I'm not saying that. I'm saying that they're both people who are pretty like sexually open and free and they want to sleep with a lot of different people, but they still want to, she still wants to have some kind of relationship and he does too, because he's still calling her every day. So he wants at least a close friendship with somebody he's having sex with. So I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with that. Like, I don't, I'm not even looking at it from the perspective of, oh my god austin needs to commit to you or you deserve this you don't you but you deserve someone that you could be that way around you know that you could go enjoy yourself sexually and still have somebody to be your partner with like i don't know there's like the whole thing but bugs me because there is so much shame kind of from the audience perspective of like come on girl why what do you expect from him but also it's not that you can't expect that from somebody you can't Still expect a committed relationship from somebody and still have it be sexually free is all I'm saying.

51:46Ronnie Karam: You just don't have it. It doesn't have to be Austin. Yeah.

51:48Ben Mandelker: I hate how it's always like on the women to be the ones to have to like, you know, you're the one who has to realize that like he'll never change. Like what about if the woman never changes? How about the guy changes? Right. So all that stuff. Yes. I always think about that in these discussions. But I think because we're just being exposed to like countless minutes upon minutes upon minutes upon minutes of Sally pondering the situation and looking sad and wondering like, but why not me? Why don't I get taken on dates? I'm like, because what do you want me to tell you? Go to a different guy. Like this guy is like, he's a known documented player.

52:25Ben Mandelker: That's like what he is.

52:26Ronnie Karam: And so are you.

52:27Ben Mandelker: And I'm not saying that he like, and he should change. He should change. But by the way, you guys should both step away from each other and he changed and he can be with someone else and you go just find someone who treats you better.

52:37Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but I think the reason it's frustrating with Sally and not as much with Austin isn't because she's a woman and he's a man. It's because she's asking for a relationship from him. And he's like, no, I don't want a relationship. So she's the one who keeps being like, but why? But why? But why? And it's like he's telling you very clearly, just stop. Go away from this. stay away from this man i want to wall you off from this man it's like what we see on on below

53:01Ben Mandelker: deck all the time so many times we see these girls go after these guys were awful and then they always say there's so many red flags but i just like them and i can't ignore my heart it's like you can't ignore your heart the red flag is there for a reason the red flag is a device it's a tool for you and your livelihood so you turn around and go the other direction and just like it's like at a certain point was like if the red flag was waving and you saw it like a certain point i don't

53:28Ronnie Karam: know i lose sympathy well it's also similar to below deck in that this show is basically a dating show so they're pretending to be some other show but at the end of the day it's like nope this show is about men being rascals and dating younger women and refusing to settle down and then they keep recasting hotter younger well not hotter but younger and younger women the men age but the Women stay the same age, basically, as bait for the men to kind of use and date and discard, as we've already mentioned. And so there is a certain thing of like, well, you see the guys doing it. Like, look, now there's this new young model, and Austin's already been trying to date her.

54:07Ronnie Karam: He's already been on five dates. Now Wittner is trying because that's somebody you need to have your on-camera thing to get people involved. so in a way it's like do you even feel for austin or is are you doing to him what he is doing to every every other woman that comes on this show which is using you for fame and airtime you know here's part of it's just like okay here's where austin is really shitty he's clearly

54:31Ben Mandelker: not interested in having a relationship with her uh and he could say like i just don't want to have a relationship right now but then he goes on dates with other people's or he just whatever for whatever reason, maybe he only sees her as a hookup. Maybe he's slut-shaming her. Maybe he just doesn't like her like that. But, you know, whatever. But he's not interested whatsoever. So he really should not be continuing to make out with her. And, like, he has a responsibility, too, I think.

54:58Ronnie Karam: I don't think that you have to not make out with your friends. If you're like, we're just friends, I don't want anything with you, which he said very clearly, and then you go out and you make out and you hook up, I mean, I think they're both going out and getting shit-faced and hooking up, you know?

55:14Ben Mandelker: But there is a certain amount of dishonesty that he has, too. And she calls him on it, and you would think that would be enough for her. Well, it sort of was enough for her to draw a boundary this episode, but we'll see how long that lasts. But, like, don't say, oh, I just, I'm not really in this, oh, I don't want this, I don't know. I don't know. Like, I think that he's stringing her along, too. And that's shitty. And, like, if we really boil it down, if we if we pull out all the think peace commentary that we're injecting into this ultimately he's stringing her along and she is like diluted and like the two of them are just totally ridiculous with each other and i just feel like with her it's just that she is going on and on and on about it so she's just more annoying to me at this point i think that they're both fuck people they don't

56:03Ronnie Karam: want anything serious with anybody either one of them and they're just making this for tv because this whole thing where she's saying oh but he just you know why is everyone else okay today but then they go to kyle cook's dj show which is clearly a public event for bravo fans where you're surrounded by people that are looking at you and taking your picture and they were making out at this event which is clearly we're making out for fans to take pictures and start gossiping about us and everything else and then she goes and hooks up with kyle that scene so like how yeah not they both are behind austin's back which and which he said like i don't even care because that's the kind of friends we are that's what we do we'll make out and then we'll go hook up with people but then to come on camera and be like oh what why are you being serious with me you don't want to be serious with him that's why you're fucking around with him you're both fuck people stop stop wasting my emotions that's a great point and so much of the show is watching fuck people

57:02Ben Mandelker: like try to play house because they see that they're fuck people and they know it and they don't want that to be their lot in life and they don't want that to be like who they are so then they like attach the fantasy of like i want to be in a real relationship because if i'm in a real relationship that means i'm actually not that fuck person i grew and i i am capable of growing and i can be an adult and then there is hope for me and i can get things together and everyone was wrong about me craig conover is like the best example of this and so i there is part of it of like is she does she really want a relationship with austin or does she want to know that she can have a relationship with austin for her own view of herself who knows but the point is i'm talking about these two the point is i'm i'm like sally like the moment she starts yammering about austin i'm like no sorry nope we gave you a pamphlet we told you what to do

57:53Ronnie Karam: and you're no i don't even believe you i don't even believe you and that whole we'll get to it later but their whole scene later where she's like i'm laying down the lot was just like a big flirt thing or they're like turning each other on by like here are my boundaries oh yeah i feel your boundaries it was weird it wasn't drawing that yeah i don't think she was drawing that boundary

58:15Ben Mandelker: because she felt like oh this is the healthy thing to do i felt like she was drawing that boundary would be like now you can't have access to me see how you like that now he's gonna come crawling back which is a different vibe and i whatever i thought it was flirting it's like oh

58:29Ronnie Karam: yeah well you can't talk you can't kiss me anymore in public it's like i won't i won't kiss you oh yeah i won't kiss and then they start making like all these moves mouth moves and stuff and giggling at each other this is like some weird couple kink that they have it's the it's their kind of communication where they make out with each other, but then they make out with other people in front of each other to get each other all jealous. And then she, you know, they have these talks where he, you know, tells her really shitty, horrible things like he did at the reunion and like publicly humiliates her.

59:02Ronnie Karam: And then she's like, well, I'm going to set a boundary. And it's all this weird fucking kink that they have. And I don't even know why we're inserting ourself into it because we, I know it's just them. They're going to, then the second we walk away, they're going to be fucking each other up against some kitchen wall, you know, like the Bickersons on SNL who'd come in and fight, fight, fight, make everybody uncomfortable and then just go bang in the kitchen. Everybody would hear them.

59:26Ben Mandelker: I've reached my limit. I'm reached my limit. We have a whole season. We have not only a whole episode to go. We have a whole season. I'm not doing this anymore. Cause we were going to do it 10, 20 more times. She's an idiot. Let's go on. Congratulations. Okay.

59:39Ronnie Karam: I want to put another hour into it. It's been a, it's been a solid hour of just talking about. I used to.

59:44Ben Mandelker: I just want to remind everyone, I just got off a plane.

59:51Ronnie Karam: I just got home from the airport after being rejected from planes all day.

59:56Ben Mandelker: Yeah, we've both dealt with airports today, and I can't deal with airports and Sally.

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