State of the art: Chinese market flounders

2 Jan 2026 · 22 min · 6 chapters

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Episode Overview In this episode, the podcast discusses the interlinked fate of the art and property markets in China, the migration trends in Britain, and bids farewell to the American penny.

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Segment 1

The Chinese Art Market and Property Crisis

Key Points

  • Historical Context:
  • Beginning in the early 2000s, China's property boom generated significant wealth, leading many new billionaires to invest in the art market as a status symbol.
  • Art Market Decline:
  • The downturn in the Chinese property market, which began around 2021, correlates strongly with the slump in art sales.
  • The MM Chinese Art Price Index indicates that art prices soared during the property boom, peaking in 2020 but plummeting back to 2009 levels by 2025.

Contributing Factors

  • COVID-19 Impact:
  • Lockdowns in China restricted access to galleries, further diminishing art sales.
  • Government Policies:
  • The Chinese government has shown a distaste for ostentatious spending, leading to a reduced visibility of high-value art transactions.
  • Capital Controls:
  • Increased scrutiny on financial transactions related to art has made it harder for wealthy individuals to leverage art for money laundering.

Current State

  • Market Activity:
  • In 2024, art sales were down by 31% compared to the previous year. Even top artists like Zhou Quinya saw transaction values decrease by 43%.
  • Future Outlook:
  • Despite the ongoing decline in the property market expected to last for several more years, there is hope for a recovery in the art market driven by genuine interest rather than status.

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Segment 2

Migration Trends in Britain

Overview

  • Common perceptions in Britain suggest a mass exodus of citizens, often labeled a "brain drain," primarily due to political turmoil and immigration issues.

Data Insights

  • Net Migration Statistics:
  • Overall net migration has decreased from nearly 1 million to about 200,000 recently, indicating a shift in immigration trends rather than a significant emigration trend.
  • British Citizen Outflow:
  • Reports indicate a 33% rise in British citizens emigrating, suggesting a need for deeper analysis of these numbers.

Analysis Techniques

  • Data Methodology Changes:
  • The Office for National Statistics (ONS) shifted from survey-based data collection at airports to administrative data tracking, leading to discrepancies in the understanding of emigration figures.
  • Estimates and Findings:
  • A review of migration data from OECD countries revealed no significant brain drain occurring. Emigration figures have essentially stabilized or even reduced compared to pre-Brexit levels.

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Segment 3

The Death of the American Penny

Summary

  • The American penny, having been minted for over 230 years, is being discontinued due to rising production costs that exceed its value.

Cultural Significance

  • The penny once held more purchasing power, serving as an essential tool for budgeting and charitable collection.
  • The loss of the penny reflects broader economic changes, leading to considerations of its legacy in American society.

Future Considerations

  • While the penny may no longer be in circulation, its potential collectible value and alternative uses remain relevant among enthusiasts.

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Conclusion This episode of Economist Podcasts delves into significant global economic shifts, highlighting the interconnectedness of markets and the importance of informed discourse around migration and currency. It underscores the need for careful analysis of data to combat misconceptions in public narratives.

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China's Property Boom and Art Market Connection

2:24 to 4:28

Explore the relationship between China's property market and the art market downturn.

“The property boom that started in China in the early 2000s became one of the fastest generators of wealth in history.”

Factors Affecting Chinese Art Prices

4:28 to 7:24

Understand the reasons behind the decline in Chinese art prices.

“Capital controls have played a big role.”

The Future of Art Collecting in China

7:24 to 10:46

Examine potential changes in the Chinese art market and its collectors.

“So COVID hurt global markets, regardless of what area we're talking about.”

British Migration Trends

12:10 to 14:03

Analyze the current trends in migration from Britain and their implications.

“that there's a mass exodus of Brits from the country.”

Understanding British Emigration Trends

14:03 to 16:39

Explore the complexities behind the emigration data of British citizens.

“But outflows of British citizens, the third bucket, has increased from 82 ,000 to 109 ,000 over the past six years.”

The Life and Times of a Penny

16:40 to 23:16

Learn about the decline of the penny and its significance in modern economy.

“It's dark, it's January, and the party is over.”
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2:05Read the headlines and you'd be forgiven for thinking there was a mass exodus from Britain. But when our correspondent dug into the data, the evidence wasn't so clear-cut. And in the past you could buy a loaf of bread or a pint of beer with it. Now it will barely get you anything at all. As part of our World Ahead series, our obituaries editor mourns the death of the American penny.

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2:49The property boom that started in China in the early 2000s became one of the fastest generators of wealth in history. Don Wineland is our China business and finance editor. Some of China's nouveau riche were keen to flash their newfound cash. One way of doing that was to get into the art market. They started buying very expensive pieces of art, and this was a way of flaunting their wealth. So we move to the beautiful Modigliani, lot eight, painted in Paris in 1718. $75 million,$75 million,$80 million,$80 million. In 2015, Leo E. Chan, a cab driver turned property magnate, bought Amadeo Modigliani's painting, New Cochet, at auction.

3:34I'm selling it, last chance, all done, at$152 million. Sold here, 1561. Including the buyer's premium, he ended up paying$170 million, the second highest price paid in an art auction at the time. And it wasn't just Leo who was buying art. The founder of Chinese property giant Evergrande also began buying a lot of art. There were lots of Chinese property tycoons, but companies like Evergrande and the Chinese property market itself started to fall apart in 2021. At the same time, Chinese art sales have slumped. So it sounds like the fates of the property market and the art market are just inextricably linked here.

4:19There's a straight line between those two slumps. I think that's correct. There's a number of factors that have contributed to Chinese art prices coming down. A big one was the COVID lockdowns. Capital controls have played a big role. Even the state's distaste for opulent spending probably has hurt the Chinese art market. But nothing really has taken a bigger toll than the collapse of China's property sector. Well, let's put some numbers to it. What is the size of the toll taken? So the art world is notoriously private. It's not always possible to see how much pieces of art sell for in the private market.

4:59But there's one index that's really, really good at tracking Chinese works of art. So we're no longer talking about the Modiglianis. We're talking about Chinese artists and the value at which their art is changing hands. So the MM Chinese Art Price Index tracks 327 works of Chinese art as they change hands between 1988 and 2022. And if we look at this index, we can see that during the heady days of the property boom, between the year 2000 and 2020, this art price index increases over 15 times. So Chinese art prices are soaring during this 20-year period. They peak in 2020, and by the time we get to 2025, they've fallen back to 2009 levels.

5:50So that means art prices today are around the same level as they were about 15 years ago, at least according to this index. Art sales were down by 31 % in 2024 compared to the year before. And the owner of the new Couchet has put up a lot of his art over the past couple years. So in 2023, he tried to sell off 39 pieces of art, 10 of them went unsold, and 29 of them sold for below their expected value. So it's pretty clear that whether it's foreign art or Chinese art, the Chinese art world is really struggling these days. And presumably Chinese artists on the basis of this index. I would think that most artists around the world are struggling in general.

6:37But if we're looking at the most valuable artists in terms of transaction values in China, Zhou Quinya is at the top in 2024. And yet the value of the transactions in his art have fallen by 43 % year on year, according to Hu Rin, which is a consulting firm that tracks wealthy people and art transactions. So it's pretty easy to see that even China's top artists are not making nearly as much, or the people trading in their art are also not making very much off these transactions compared to just the year before. And I'm interested to know what's really going on here. You said the slump in art tracks that in property, but that wasn't the only thing going on.

7:23That's right. So COVID hurt global markets, regardless of what area we're talking about. They certainly hurt the art market in America and Europe and in China. One of the biggest problems in China was that as the rest of the world opened up, China was still going into lockdowns. The rest of the world was going back to galleries and museums. In China, it was very, very hard. And if you wanted to enter China in 2022 to look at a piece of artwork, or if you wanted to leave China, it was very hard. Upon entry, you had to quarantine for like three weeks. So this has permanently affected some of the galleries here.

8:00We've seen some galleries and museums shutting down recently. And alongside that, you mentioned there was this state push against flashing cash. That is also correct. So the days of property tycoons purposefully making news stories out of these massive transactions. So Leo E. Chan spending$170 million on a piece of art and making sure that the world knows that he used his Amex card to purchase it. That is just not happening anymore. And this is because the Chinese government has a clear distaste with opulent spending. Tycoons are trying to stay out of the limelight these days. And one way of doing that is by not making these flashy transactions.

8:47There's another aspect of this as well, which is connected to the state. And art, regardless of where you are, has been used as a way of laundering money for many years. And in China, 10 years ago, if you wanted to move a large sum of money out of the country, one way of doing this was to purchase a piece of art in Europe or in America. And it was relatively easy to do for people with a lot of money. Today, it's become a lot more difficult. So there's a lot more scrutiny on these types of investments, and a lot of them get blocked. So the state, in some ways, is making it more difficult for these types of transactions to happen.

9:28But the biggest factor, you said, is this change in the property market, which hasn't yet reached bottom. I mean, are these things going to remain paired? Property prices are expected to come down for several more years. There's no end in sight for this real estate crisis in China. But I don't think that means the art market is going to stay depressed forever here. One thing we see right now is collectors buying art out of genuine interest and appreciation. You don't have the flashy purchases, but you do have people who have cultivated a real understanding of the art and are continuing to collect.

10:06So that's, I would say, a healthy development. China also has a lot of tech billionaires, and they haven't been very active in the art market in the past couple of years. But from what I gathered during my reporting on this piece, it sounds like tech tycoons might become more active in this market. And you might see tech billionaires setting up museums or foundations. So that really could have an impact on the direction of art prices over the next couple of years. And I think we will see a divergence between property prices and art prices in China. It's probably a good thing for the long-term stability of the industry.

10:46Thanks very much for joining us, Don. Thank you.

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12:09Read the newspapers in Britain and you'd be forgiven for thinking that there's a mass exodus of Brits from the country. One even labelled it brain drain from Starmer's socialist chaos. But is that really what's happening? A casual glance at the statistics suggests that Britons are fleeing the country of their birth in their droves. James Fransham is a data correspondent. A more careful assessment of the data concludes that this is not the case at all.

12:41So, James, what's really going on here? Some of the time people seem to be anxious about people arriving. Some of the time they're worried about them leaving. What's actually at stake? Well, for some time now, immigration has been the biggest topic in Britain. It's a political hot potato, as it were. That's led by several things. One is small boats and asylum seekers and where to house them. And secondly, it's regular migration, so long-term net migration, as the statisticians call it. In Britain now, that figure is falling quite dramatically. Distinct from that, there's a concern that people with talent are leaving the country.

13:16So what is it that the stats show? So net migration is made up of simply people coming to the UK, inflows, and those leaving the country, outflows, known as emigration. And the ONS, that's the Office for National Statistics. Break that into three groups of people, three buckets of people. Europeans, non-Europeans and British citizens. The overall figure, net migration, is falling now from a peak of nearly 1 million a couple of years ago to about 200 ,000 in the latest 12 months. That's really good news for politicians. Every politician of all stripes basically wants net migration to be lower. Indeed, there was a target several years ago during the Cameron administration, 2010 to 2016, that they wanted it below 100 ,000.

13:58There's a good chance it actually might get there in a few years, given where things are going. But outflows of British citizens, the third bucket, has increased from 82 ,000 to 109 ,000 over the past six years. That's a 33 % rise. It looks superficially like there's been a massive outflow of British citizens over the past few years. But that's a real misunderstanding of the data. OK, why? Because the ONS used to measure the emigration of Brits with basically a survey at airports. People with clipboards would ask you where you go to, how long are you planning to go for? And that would be the basis for our emigration figure.

14:38They've realised that that method's a bit junky, so what they're doing now is to look at the tax and benefit system. So have you paid tax or have you claimed benefits over the past 12 months? If not, you may well have emigrated. What you have resolved with these two different methods is there's discontinuity in 2021 where you've got this survey-based method and then you've got this admin-based method. And we don't really know actually what the true figure of emigration is. And is there a way to find out? We did some number crunching of our own to try and actually tease out the true figure for emigration of British citizens.

15:12So how do you go about this? Well, we can go to the individual countries because actually individual countries record who are coming to their countries. And the OECD compiler of the status, kind of net migration flows effectively. And so if you look all this data for about 30 OECD countries, which account for probably about 90 % of the British diaspora across the world, we estimate that emigration averaged about 275 ,000 before Brexit in 2020 compared with about 220 ,000 today. You see a gradual rise as people took their last opportunity to move to the EU and work there freely. And then you see this cliff edge effect as free movement ends in 2021.

15:52one. So there's no brain drain? There is no brain drain, effectively. What I would caveat, however, is we don't know anything about the profile of these people, right? So there may have been a massive shift in the types of people that move. But actually, looking for evidence of that, for example, so a lot of people pointed to all the people that are leaving the country are young, all the people that used to leave the country were young. There's been no shift there. I spoke to people, Henley and Partners, who basically sought out visas for rich people want to move around the world. And the chat there didn't present me with any evidence that people were flocking to the UAE in numbers that were either alarming or substantial.

16:30I reckon about 15 ,000 people a year are moving to the UAE. Can we classify this as a brain drain? I don't think we can. James, thank you very much. My pleasure.

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17:22In solitary state, the small brown coin lay on the windowsill in the potting shed. He was warmed by the morning sun and walked over by spiders. Anne Rowe is The Economist's obituary's editor. He was a good-looking coin, as coins went. On his obverse, he had the stern, whiskered face of Abraham Lincoln. On his reverse, he had the Lincoln Memorial. And these were both clues that he had been minted between 1959 and 2009, if anyone wanted to inquire about his age. However, his days seemed to be limited. The mint, in its wisdom, had decided that it cost far more to make him. In 2024, that had been 3.69 cents, and it was losing so much money a year, minting him and his companions, that it was going to stop production.

18:28Well, he might have looked like a good-looking coin, but in fact he no longer had a healthy glow about him because there was very little copper in him. When his earliest ancestor had been minted in 1787, he had been almost all copper, but now there was only about 2 % copper in him and all the rest was zinc. Zinc was the material of feed buckets and hip baths, and it was generally a very much lower class of metal. He was also feeling lonely and lacking company because for most of his existence, he had been scrambled up with other coins like himself. He'd either been at the bottom of a purse clinking about with tissues and lipsticks, or he'd been in a jar on a kitchen shelf with perhaps a hundred others all with their edges in his face, or he'd been rattling around in the pockets of old cash tills.

19:26How very odd it was to be by himself. In fact, there had been a man in Louisiana who had once collected 1.3 million pennies. in 55-gallon drums in his garage. And he did thank the Lord he hadn't been mixed up with that Lord.

19:48Increasingly, however, he was seen as a nuisance. When people went shopping with him and got him in the change, they'd often just contentiously wave him away and say, keep the penny. Sometimes they even just left him behind. and vending machines spat him out as they didn't like the zinc, and he felt he was worth nothing at all now. Back in the 1800s, you could have bought a loaf of bread or a pint of beer with him. As time went by, it got less, but in 1825, you could still buy five pounds of potatoes. Even in 1830, you could still buy a mile of rail travel, or you could buy a copy of the New York Tribune.

20:32But his value dwindled and dwindled until you could only buy a Tootsie Roll. And even the Tootsie Rolls got smaller and smaller as time went by.

20:47But all the same, he felt he was economically important. He encouraged careful budgeting and exactitude. With him around, you didn't have to round up to a nickel. you could pay the exact price, and all those pennies did, after a while, add up to something. His presence encouraged people to buy. If your Donald Trump action man toy was$20.99, it was somehow cheaper, by quite a degree, than$21. And so that encouraged consumption, and encouraged the economy. And then what about charity? With the centre round, it was easy to collect bags and bags of coins for good causes. And in many cities, there was a proper organisation that did so and sent children out with cloth bags door to door to reap what they called harvest pennies.

21:45Where would all those tins and boxes be collecting coins for good causes if he was not there. People were only too happy to empty their pockets of pennies, and they would go on their way, feeling light and virtuous.

22:04All the same, he did wonder what his future would be now. He felt sure there would be uses for him. After all, pennies were lucky. There were surely things he could do that would be helpful. For example, being a fairly good-looking penny, he could make a pendant. He could also space out tiles on a floor. He could stop a chair from wobbling if you stuck him to the end of a leg. He could turn fridge thermostats and he could prise the ring off a can of coke. There were probably many more uses that could be found for him if people thought about it. As he lay there, he became resigned to the fact that his days were numbered as the mint had stopped producing, but perhaps that meant eventually that he would become rare, perhaps as rare as the draped bust liberty penny whom he was vaguely fond of, although she was much too old for him.

23:03Perhaps he would become a collector's item. And anyway, with all those uses he had found for himself, perhaps some people would come to appreciate that face value and intrinsic worth were not at all the same thing.

23:21Anne Rowe on The Cent, which has been discontinued after 230 years. And you can read more articles from our World Ahead series on economist.com.

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