


The hosts trade summer life updates, then pivot into mental-health and internet/true-crime talk. They discuss intrusive thoughts/OCD, “work wife” dynamics, and anxiety-driven routines (like emergency cat bags and midnight shopping). The main story segment is a documentary about a pregnant woman scam/stalking plot involving Craigslist ads, where a “crazy ex-girlfriend” allegedly impersonates the current girlfriend to arrange sexual-assault roleplay and harassment. They also debate YSL makeup viral controversy (a man wins a YSL basket and gives it to a female coworker, prompting the wife’s backlash), and they get into claw clips vs. scoliosis comfort.
No guests appear in the transcript; it’s just the two hosts (“Gigglers,” “Paige” and her co-host).
Craigslist is unregulated and enables con artists; exes are often labeled “crazy” but there’s more to the story; intrusive thoughts can resemble OCD and need ERP therapy; claw clips are being “invented” to be softer for scoliosis comfort.
Emergency “kitty bag” with food/water/litter; YSL makeup basket video; Michael Jackson biopic/documentary takeaway (child labor/trauma); the Craigslist impersonation/pregnancy-faking documentary plot; Ring cameras helping document events.
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The hosts discuss their fun weekend experiences, including a party and unique celebrations.
“I've been trying to like think of different things.”
The hosts share relatable experiences and discuss feedback from listeners about their podcast comments.
“You know how like sometimes you'll say something on the pod and then like after you're like, no one's going to get it.”
A discussion around pelvic health issues and the importance of self-care for mental well-being.
“Bro, I have no, I've been doing Pilates for years now.”
The hosts critique a Michael Jackson biopic and reflect on themes of fame and trauma in his life.
“You're like, I'm worried about the trees.”
The hosts critique a Michael Jackson biopic and reflect on themes of fame and trauma in his life.
Discussion about a viral incident involving a man gifting YSL makeup to a co-worker.
“The last thing I want to talk about is have you seen the YSL makeup debate?”
Exploration of the idea of 'work wives' and the dynamics between coworkers.
“I already know she's not crazy because she's even aware that she might be being crazy, which makes you not crazy.”
Sharing personal anecdotes about experiences in sales and communication.
“I've never bought a single thing from a man ever.”
Discussion on the challenges of starting a career and addressing youth anxiety.
“That was one thing that I was like not competitive about.”
Exploring childhood dreams and early interests in comedy and writing.
Explore the hosts' early passions for comedy and fashion, and how they embrace femininity.
Discussion on welcoming new listeners and fostering community among fans.
“An OCD is so much more than being neat or organized.”
Hosts discuss aging, milestones, and the importance of vintage gifts.
“I was thinking about it the other day because I saw some.”
A lighthearted conversation about hair accessories, comfort, and styling preferences.
“I want to show you these shoes because I feel like they're very you coded.”
Diving into the sinister elements of a documentary and Craigslist experiences.
Discussion about mental illness related to deceitful behaviors like faking pregnancy and cancer.
Analyzing the behaviors and relationships within the context of con artists and deception.
“And what's great about the con artists is they love to reappear like in a slightly different neighborhood.”
Exploration of Craigslist's reputation, functionality, and user experiences.
“How has Craigslist not been shut down, even for, like, a month?”
Hosts discuss their merch sales and playful banter about personal skills.

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0:00Hannah Berner: Honestly guys, to me this summer is all about finding my original sound and just owning it. With my JBL headphones, I suggest you do the same. For me, that's getting lost in a great audiobook. Hannah has convinced me to get the Stranger's audiobook while also having the actual book. Thankfully, my JBL Live headphones bring every detail to life in full color. Whether I'm on a hot girl walk, heading out on a vacation, or just lounging poolside, my JBL Live headphones are the ultimate summer accessory. They are literally perfect for all the audiobooks, podcasts that I'm obsessed with, and I need to hear every single vivid detail of my favorite stories come alive exactly the way they were meant to be heard.
0:40Hannah Berner: The tech is actually amazing too. They have true adaptive noise cancellation, so I get to decide exactly how deeply I want to immerse myself in the plot. And because style is non-negotiable, they come in these bold, unique colors to match every look I'm serving that day. They even have up to 80 hours of battery life so they can actually keep up with us. This summer, I'm tuning into what I love. You should too. Find your pair at jbl.com. Abercrombie's latest drop is basically my current summer obsession. It's just a lineup of those key pieces that make getting dressed feel easier. The Sloan tailored pants is my go-to when I want something a little more polished and the Dillon dress is that effortless piece you can throw on and still feel put together.
1:22Hannah Berner: Their matching sets instantly make any plan feel styled. And their everyday denim is just the foundation for literally everything else. It all feels really wearable, elevated, and easy to repeat. Which is exactly what I want right now. Keep up with the pace of summer without overthinking it. Shop in the app, online, and in stores.
1:53Hannah Berner: I mean, the day just got away from me. Okay, what's up, my garlic gigglers? The energy's so different when we're in person. I love it. Oh, no, I love it.
2:05Paige DeSorbo: She's like, there's a darkness. A toxicity you haven't felt. I feel a weird energy. Yeah. No, it's magic, and I missed you, baby. I missed you. How was your weekend? My weekend was really fun. My friend, Remy, who's in West Hampton with me, Texts me and she's like come to a party And I was like you know I don't do parties And she was like it's my mom's 70th Birthday party and I said I will be there Cause one thing about me is I love You love a mom's birthday I love a mother, I love a sama I love old people getting drunk She's not old No I love people who like Don't have kids anymore getting drunk Like their kids are out of the house Who have a story to tell The stories that, so I show up there's a flame a woman doing a flamethrower thing okay i mean remy went all out you can hire anyone to do anything well apparently the lady was like if you want me to eat the fire it's more money and remy was like yeah how much more how much more i'll give you everything i have wait
3:06Hannah Berner: did i tell you last summer i hired a mermaid to come swim in a pool oh yeah and you're like the coolest aunt ever i loved it like for the rest of your life i think i have to think of something for Labor Day weekend like that I present. How did you beat that? I don't know. I've been trying to like think of different things. My new, I think I might rent an ice cream truck to come. Yeah, that's cute as fuck. I think that's a cute one.
3:28Paige DeSorbo: So yeah, I was, I partied. They actually, this is so cute and I don't mean to blow up their spot, but they recreated her wedding because it's a 35 year wedding anniversary. It was luau themed. What?
3:44Hannah Berner: in hawaii i just no lays but like luau themed yeah i thought you just said wow themed i was like what is what i was like i don't know what that is but i love it but everyone was wearing
3:57Paige DeSorbo: like the same outfits they wore for the wedding in the same spot they had the same wedding cake it was just so beautiful to see a couple that enjoy each other enjoy each other 35 years
4:07Hannah Berner: If they're on Housewives and they renewed their vows, though, bad omen.
4:11Paige DeSorbo: Bad, bad, bad, bad. This was less renewing and more celebrating. And Adina, her mom. Do you know what? Moms are just stars. Like, she's star quality. Like, she could carry a room. She could carry a show if she had to. She was at one point just wearing white, like, in the middle of the dance floor, like a cult leader. And I was like, whatever this bitch wants, I'm going to do. Like, tell me. I was dancing. I had so much fun. You went to a nice summer party. A summer gathering. That's what summer's for.
4:36Hannah Berner: It really is.
4:37Paige DeSorbo: How was your weekend?
4:39Hannah Berner: Okay. You know how like sometimes you'll say something on the pod and then like after you're like, no one's going to get it. Like, should I take it out? Like that's not relatable. Yeah, that's really niche. And people will be like, oh my God, I feel the same way. Or like that's exactly what I've done that, whatever. And then there are times where you say something and you're like, everyone gets this. You don't even like give it a second thought. Yeah. And then like my DMs will be, nope, we've never felt that. Don't you say so and you're like, I'm a relatable queen. And then it's just crickets.
5:13Hannah Berner: So last week when I was like, anytime I do a butt exercise, my vagina hurts. Like thinking just like everyone in Pilates class was feeling the same thing. Like, wow, it's really hurting. My entire DMs were doctors and physical therapists being like, you have a pelvic, you have pelvic dysfunction. Like everyone had the same name. I was going to say it to you privately later, but I was getting doctors as well being like, hey. Everyone was like, you have to go to an ortho, like, pelvis. But this is one thing about it.
5:46Paige DeSorbo: First of all, is it pelvis or pelvic? I think. Both? It's like goose geese. One is the floral. My pelvis. Bro, I have no, I've been doing Pilates for years now. No fucking clue what a pelvis is. I think I have a tilted one. And, okay, then I'm like.
6:01Hannah Berner: But is everyone's tilted? Then I'm like looking up stuff about like pelvic dysfunction.
6:05Paige DeSorbo: Is it scoliosis again?
6:07Hannah Berner: Well, there's like different exercises, but like the overall theme is like your whole body's tense. Like it was basically like maybe take a breath once in a while, you uptight bitch. It's like really the overall like how to get rid of it. It's like take a deep breath from your stomach. Like we don't know.
6:24Paige DeSorbo: 95 % of our problems on this pod is because we have high functioning anxiety disorder. my jaw your pelvic cry also I see like these weird men doing exercises that like look like like doing like circular exercises release sciatica stuff yeah all men have sciatica and so do I yeah do you I don't know but I I don't not have sciatica yeah that's true I mean
6:50Hannah Berner: the lower left side of my back always has like a tinge yeah like someone DM me and she was like no one should feel like you have they have to get a massage every week oh you go sorry what happened to self-care sorry for self-living lavish sorry for treating myself once in a while
7:06Paige DeSorbo: you know what it is also like I feel like it's your time to have intimacy without having to talk
7:13Hannah Berner: to anyone like intimacy with myself well half the time I fall asleep okay that's like when you go to
7:20Paige DeSorbo: the nail salon and she holds you for like three seconds and you're like I needed that I needed
7:24Hannah Berner: that that's so true I don't even give it a second thought when I know someone's gonna touch me intimately for a beauty treatment you love it except I haven't gotten my vagina lasered so that's the only thing that I'm like that's too intimate it's scary it's scary and I don't it's it's like laser summer I don't have the time um okay I have a couple things I'd like to go over one something that like caught me off like something that just made me wonder you know like you know like you're on your computer at like midnight you're like you can't sleep and you're just like doing things so every night you're on your phone yeah how do i go to bed at night yes you're just doing stuff and you get like a random thought like about like ai or just like you know no one's talks about is how now our laptops like when we want to log into them like we just do like a fingerprint like if i want to log into my amazon account i just like do my fingerprint i don't like it and like they took it off on the phone because now it's like your eyes
8:27Paige DeSorbo: like it's facial recognition why do you think they took it off the phone i don't know
8:32Hannah Berner: i liked it on the phone yeah because i felt like i was a spy it was also way easier to go through someone else's phone if it was just a fingerprint now they you could just put their thumb while they were sleeping yeah you are a spy yeah i'm a spy but now you have they have to be awake i can't go over i've tried to do it with a picture like hold my phone to a phone wait so you're i thought
8:59Paige DeSorbo: you're gonna be three days you said i'm mad at ai i know you're mad because it's harder for you
9:03Hannah Berner: to check people's phones i'm just not loving the extra steps they're giving me This is good for the environment.
9:13Hannah Berner: You're like, I'm worried about the trees. Okay, my next weird thing that I thought in the middle of the night. I have these really weird thoughts in the middle of the night, and then the next day I have to execute them. Well, it was the point of having that thought. So one night I was like, what if I'm in a rush, and I have to grab Kitty, and I don't have all of her stuff? All her stuff? You mean like her Louis Vuitton bag? I need an emergency kitty bag. Like, how do I not have... Your anxieties, like, should be studied.
9:45Paige DeSorbo: Because it's so cute. You're like... I can't go to sleep without having a caraway bag from my beautiful...
9:53Hannah Berner: I have a navy blue canvas bag that says Daphne on it from Alex Mill. It has inside portable, like, rubber things that I keep her food in. Then I have a second one for her water. And canned foods in case there's an apocalypse. Then I have a travel Yep two canned foods Then I have a travel litter box Already filled with litter Never been touched
10:18Paige DeSorbo: You're more prepared For your cat's made up Emergency than I am To just like start my day What if someone invites her away For the weekend
10:26Hannah Berner: And she's We have to go True What if I'm like Oh my god I have to get on a flight In an hour I have to bring Daphne But I don't have Any of her stuff ready Yeah So anyway that's something else I worked on over the weekend another thing I worked on over the weekend was I watched the Michael Jackson movie
10:44Paige DeSorbo: oh I haven't watched it I just watched the Michael Jackson documentary on Netflix
10:48Hannah Berner: I feel like every time they do a biopic I get so excited and then I watch it and I'm like why did you pick that time in their life like I feel like that's the most boring time like way crazier shit happened in their lifetime and we're not was it his come up it was from like when he was a little kid to when he like put out thriller
11:06Paige DeSorbo: okay so then when everything got like fucking crazy they were like we forgot let's not touch
11:11Hannah Berner: it let's not touch it my biggest takeaway from it is child labor yeah the trauma that happened in that home and they don't really they give it to you in like media literacy like you can tell that the trauma happened in their this home we're not going through we're not going into it but like read between the lines between the lines this is the vibe and they also make the dad like really scary looking because his eyes are like so piercing blue that it's like just like gives devil evil so like he played an amazing character but it's yeah it's very like there's a lot of trauma here and I
11:47Paige DeSorbo: would assume it explains a lot if I was from a family that like the dad was like you all are going to be amazing at something yeah and like really was traumatized by like the intensity of it and i didn't even become the star of the family oh you're like the other brothers in jackson five i'd be pissed i mean i think he takes care of them but i'd be like wait so why did i go through all that torture if michael was just gonna be like well the dad like tries to keep them as a
12:16Hannah Berner: group but michael is freakishly more talented freakishly more talented and like genius level like they do show him like writing all of his own songs like in the middle of the night and he would just like come up with these dance ideas and like he's like I need to try this he definitely was a genius my dad's calling me of some sort okay a good comparison is they the movie a couple years ago about Serena and Venus Williams that dad intense but you didn't get the vibe that he like physically was abusive to the girls yeah yeah he also like the girls wanted it like the
12:56Paige DeSorbo: Girls were in on it with him. But Michael, I feel like he wanted it. Well, yes, but he was so young.
13:04Hannah Berner: It's all he knew. Yeah. It's like, do you want to be a star or? But then you do feel like, yeah, he loves it because it is all he knows. But did you know that his head caught on fire? Like, that's how the movie ends. When? Oh. When he's like doing a Pepsi commercial. Okay. Was that? It's very. You got to watch it. What was in his writer? I don't care about spoiling the endings of like real movies. You don't. No, it was like some like pyro something. I can't believe I just said pyro. Is that right?
13:35Paige DeSorbo: That is 100 % right. Pyrotechnic? That was so right. Look at you getting into different fields. Okay, Gigglers, before we get back to the chaos, we need to get something off our chest. As you know, Paige is an avid reader. No, I'm president of our book club. And by book club, we mean audio club. Yes. We're diving into audiobooks this summer thanks to this segment brought to you in partnership with JBL Live Headphones, which we're wearing right now. How iconic are we?
14:05Hannah Berner: No, I'm obsessed with JBL Live Headphones because truly, if you are reading an audiobook, it's so easy to immerse yourself in the story. JBL's Live Headphones is what you need to have to do it correctly.
14:18Paige DeSorbo: They're so high quality. They're so comfortable. And as women in STEM, I just feel like we need the best technology to enjoy our audiobooks. I mean, I didn't even have these for strangers. And now I want to like re-listen with JBL live headphones.
14:33Hannah Berner: I feel like last season, blue light glasses were all the rage and the trend. And this year, the aesthetic is the rise of audiobook main character energy. And you need your JBL live headphones to get the trend. Also, sometimes when I'm tanning by a pool, it's too bright for me to read. Yes.
14:52Paige DeSorbo: I have to listen to the audiobook on my JBL Live headphones. I don't want to burn out my retina. You can't see. They're also noise canceling. So when you're in a chaotic area, you put them on and you can feel at peace with your audiobook. You can hear every detail and you're fully immersed in the story.
15:10Hannah Berner: One of my favorite ways to immerse myself in an audiobook, actually I just started yesteryear, is being at the grocery store and immersing yourself because it feels like you're in a mystical wonderland. Like people are around and they don't even realize they're part of your story.
15:25Paige DeSorbo: When I've been running on the treadmill, you think you're better than us. I love to forget that I'm working out and just listen to my audiobook and be fully immersed. I highly recommend Lena Dunham's recent book because she's so good at narrating.
15:39Hannah Berner: so whether you're in transit or romanticizing errands do it with a narrator that makes you feel like a dang 10 thank you for listening to our segment today brought to you in partnership with jbl truly jbl's live headphones are the only way to hear every vivid detail of your audiobook
15:56Paige DeSorbo: in full color this summer gigglers let us know what you've been listening to on your hawker walks this summer or tanning or the subway wherever you listen and most importantly which color matches your vibe. DM us and find your pair at jbl.com. I'm the last thing on my docket tonight. Wait, you've never come more prepared with your docket. I'm wearing a cardigan. Yeah. Look alive.
16:21Hannah Berner: I'm wearing a matching cardigan set. Look alive. The last thing I want to talk about is have you seen the YSL makeup debate? That hasn't come across my algorithm. I love when our algorithms are different. Buckle up for this. Yeah. There's a man. He works at a job. allegedly doubt it he works at a job he's at his job they do some type of like raffle giveaway something he wins an entire basket of YSL makeup his wife is at home I think postpartum or even pregnant Grace will you do me a favor and look up the YSL wife he gives the basket of YSL makeup to his female co-worker the wife i'm pretty sure like makes a video about it that's how like we know about it and the internet is kind of like what was the wife's take in her video i'm pretty sure the wife was like hello like what what about me at home vibe so she's complaining yeah she's
17:21Paige DeSorbo: basically like girls am i being crazy or is this weird yes okay which is one of my favorite phrases to hear from anyone on the planet. It could be anyone. If a girl says, am I being crazy? Hey, am I being crazy for a second? I already know she's not crazy because she's even aware that she might be being crazy, which makes you not crazy. Yeah, I'm like, give me everything. And that's being a girl's girl. Yeah, that is. Wait, I can't say it with my lips. Girl's girl.
17:45Hannah Berner: The claw. My take is men are stupid, but if my boyfriend husband partner is in a situation and something that I would like comes up in conversation or whatever and I'm not the first thing that pops into his mind weird who else are you thinking of yep so like there is a situation where he gets presented this like basket of YSL makeup and he's like I don't know what the fuck to do with it and their girl is sitting right next to him and he's like here yeah they could be small-minded like that like Like that, like I got nervous, whatever. But you would want your husband to win this basket and think my wife at home is going to love it.
18:30Hannah Berner: For sure. Also, it brings me to my next topic, which is like the essence of like a work wife. I'll slit your throat with a knife.
18:43Paige DeSorbo: Don't ever. I'm not trying to start drama, but there's TikTok videos of like the guy with the like happiest family coming up to you in the morning and being like, I like your shirt. What, I can't tell you I like your shirt? Like just being so flirty at the office. I'll kill everyone.
18:59Hannah Berner: I would kill everyone. Also, if someone's husband came up to me in the office and said that, I'm DMing you. You're DMing you immediately. I'm DMing you immediately. I'm telling you. It's only 911.
19:13Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. The problem is the office is like this microcosm of its own world. now single people work wife all you want work husband it uh i thought work wife was like when you have a gay when he's gay like i'm his work wife it's because of the places we've worked he's my work wife yeah true we've only worked in like marketing yeah we've only worked in happy gay places yeah i worked in sales but i would hang out with the marketing team because the sales guys were like crazy scary i'm really scared that's so scary i just hung out with the social media team.
19:44Hannah Berner: I've never bought a single thing from a man ever.
19:47Paige DeSorbo: Also I was so good at sales and they literally this is such a good callback. They said to me all that girl does is giggle because I'd be on the phone giggling. Manifested it for us. Clearly at some point I'm asking for the sale because the money's coming in baby. Yeah. But I was being pleasant. You gotta break them down ease with the joke. Yes I was buttering them up. Yeah. With a little. Would you sell again? I didn't know. No I was selling um seo for small businesses what it it was very complicated shirts and hats oh that was another time oh okay that was another time but i was like cold calling but i didn't like cold calling because i'm an empath so i don't want to like ruin someone's day so if they did answer i'd be like
20:31Hannah Berner: how you doing i couldn't i could never take a job where i have to be on the phone like any type of
20:37Paige DeSorbo: customer service i would i did a lot of emailing though which the boys didn't see so i'd be just like emailing emailing um i was i was good at it except i just hated asking people for stuff like it's a lot to constantly be like gimme gimme gimme like i'm a creator yeah i want to create yeah so
20:55Hannah Berner: that's why i'd hang out the social media you don't know you know like even when like remember in middle school you'd have to do like what remember you'd have to like sell wrapping paper randomly the school would be like go home and sell what was that go home and sell this to your friends and family and people would like compete I think it was like ultimately for the school yeah who knows where the money actually goes did you sell I forget what I was gonna say about that
21:19Paige DeSorbo: did you sell cookies for the girl scouts
21:22Hannah Berner: yeah but like I wasn't like getting into it like if my family was around like and if they wanted thin mints yeah write your name on the goddamn sheet but I'm not going door to door people are going out of house and home to get samosas. Samoas. But no, I'm not like actively. Yeah. I never participated.
21:45Paige DeSorbo: Yeah.
21:45Hannah Berner: That was one thing that I was like not competitive about. I was like uncouth, I feel. Yeah, no, no. I was like, I'm not knocking on my neighbor's door and bothering them. No, it's insane. To sell them shiny wrapping paper.
21:58Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. I think that I did it because my dad was like, if you could do cold calling sales, you could do anything in life. So I was, I had that like mentality.
22:05Hannah Berner: Wait, what in 90s? Like early 90s?
22:08Paige DeSorbo: He was like, coffees for closers. And I still was like very entrenched.
22:12Hannah Berner: You were like seven and he was like, always be closing.
22:15Paige DeSorbo: That's literally my dad. That was literally me and my dad. And I was doing it and immediately, you know, after college when you have your first job and you're like, this can't be what I do forever. This is crazy. But then I used all that stuff to help like sell my ideas, sell myself. Like we have to sell ourselves every day.
22:32Hannah Berner: we sell our bodies i sell my ip like i sell my all my thoughts all my selling yourself
22:41Paige DeSorbo: is so valuable like i love an interview i love a first date i love the idea of me small doses of me is fucking perfect wait that's small doses of anyone is first get my energy and you get it for like 20 minutes and I leave, people are like, what a pleasant, joyful experience.
23:05Hannah Berner: Do you know that that's just my goal in all of life? To just have 20 minutes with each person that they can walk away and be like, fine. And we don't have to get any deeper than that.
23:16Paige DeSorbo: Obviously, we're doing long form content here, but it's because me and you bring out the best in each other. Yeah, well, we're different. That's chemistry. This is different. It's chemistry.
23:22Hannah Berner: Actually, speaking of promoting yourself, I went, one of my favorite topics, one of my favorite hobbies. I went to the Teen Vogue summer school thing. Wait, I went to the Teen Vogue. Oh, not Teen Vogue. The Teen Vogue party.
23:38Paige DeSorbo: That's what it was in my head. I went to the Teen Vogue after party. Teen Vogue.
23:44Hannah Berner: My hair's blue for the Teen Vogue party. I went to the Vogue summer school, one of their sessions. We were like in an auditorium. And I, like they sent me some questions before. and I didn't like prepare where I had like written answers in my phone because I was talking to like a bunch of high school kids like it wasn't like they were getting into like nitty-gritty of like Daphne Excel sheet I don't know I don't even know what they could ask if a smart person was in front of me couldn't even fathom what they would ask me about the business so I like looked glance at the questions whatever I got out there looking at like the sea of like majority girls some guys and like young like they were like 15 16 years old I couldn't stop being like I'm so proud of you guys like I'm so proud that you're like even thinking about your career because it was I got a little emotional in my own body and like my head not like physically because I was like we really don't realize that we talk to girls every single week and they really take what we say sometimes to heart and they should take it with a grain of salt but that's that's neither here nor there so then to see that it because when do we ever really see a group of 16 year old girls one I'd be terrified but like we're never really I was getting ice cream the other day and there was a group of them that came and I was like no you're gonna be I will say I was like a little nervous when I first walked in there and then I was like Paige you're 33 they think you're old as fuck they probably want to know how many kids like I need them to like
25:25Paige DeSorbo: think I'm funny and cool like I'm so embarrassing around 16 year old no and I just thought of like
25:31Hannah Berner: myself at that age and I said I was like the scariest part I think of starting your career is like right when you get out of college and you're you have that first job and you're like this isn't this couldn't be my job forever and I was like in the fact that you're doing this and already thinking about what you want to do career wise and what you want to do for internships like it's just so important and I just couldn't I love talking to schools yeah I was like I can't express enough how important it is to be independent and like not be thinking you're like when a guy wants to fly you to monaco and like you get on the goddamn plane but i also think in your 20s you
26:12Paige DeSorbo: feel old which is so crazy but if you think about it teenagers literally were infants like a second ago like your brain is not fully formed and people are telling you you have to know what you do for
26:23Hannah Berner: a living in my head i was like half these girls are here because they have anxiety of like what am i doing like what am i doing for college and like what is my major and stuff and i and i tried to emphasize like it's gonna work out you just have to keep working toward your goal but also
26:36Paige DeSorbo: not to completely change my mind on what I just said of like there's no idea no way you're gonna know what you're gonna do when you're little you know what you're gonna do like you know it in your
26:46Hannah Berner: gut you know and it's almost like as society like beats it out of you and you forget you know it's
26:50Paige DeSorbo: so embarrassing in seventh grade I was in drama class of course and drama class okay I saw a tiktok about this how it's like you have a normal school and then you walk by drama class and the kids are like chucking themselves around and screaming and crying and laughing like our drama class was crazy like and it was considered like really serious i like only did it like one year no no no this was a specialized performing school in brooklyn new york and mr mackinan he was a teacher he jeremy allen white was in my class stars were being born in that class and like it was competitive and he would we weren't just doing like a play he would write his own play each year and that's when i played giving summer heights high that's when i played it a hundred percent i played an irish pregnant prostitute in middle school yeah because it's about the potato famine and i was pregnant because i was a prostitute and you can't get an abortion in ireland it's called history how old were you really high school or middle school i was 11
27:54Hannah Berner: and this was going on in Brooklyn New York this is
28:00Paige DeSorbo: so anyway there was a comedy like section of this class and they did like a screenwriting competition and if like you won then they like put you to like whatever I don't know but I wrote a comedy and my comedy won stop wait we need your mom to find it but like back then like computers didn't save anything I think she tried But anyway long story short Then like I got really into tennis But like in my heart of hearts I wanted to just like write funny stuff Isn't that beautiful? That's beautiful And like from a young age You knew you wanted to put together outfits
28:37Hannah Berner: Yeah I knew I wanted to just like be vain You know It's like I love pretty things
28:43Paige DeSorbo: I like looking at them Every now and then I see a comment And someone was like I love how Paige makes me proud of my femininity because it's inherently misogynistic to be like i'm not like other girls yeah be that's my pink aura yes also because of random reasons maybe it's my mouth tiktok who knows what's going on things yeah people become gigglers every day yeah and someone was like i feel like bad that i'm like a new giggler and i'm like behind and i just want to say we're behind we're behind we are haven't even been brought up to speed but it's so cute because the gigglers are so supportive of each other because they'll be like welcome you should probably start with this episode and like we love
29:27Hannah Berner: you here but like we just want to say everyone it's kind of the equivalent of like what picture does like my ex show people of me where it's like what episodes are the girls we have never thought of that suggesting that like is the essence of us yeah you know and i guess it's
29:45Paige DeSorbo: kind of like starting becoming friends with a friend group who's been friends for a while
29:49Hannah Berner: and they're like doing all their little stuff but we're on a bachelorette party and it's like this is my new friend from adulthood meeting my high school friend okay real talk have you ever had a thought pop into your head that feels so random and upsetting and then your brain will just not let it go like you try and move on distract yourself talk yourself out of it maybe even google it and somehow it just keeps coming back a lot of people don't realize that can actually be OCD. An OCD is so much more than being neat or organized. It can look like intrusive thoughts, constant doubt, and feeling stuck in a loop trying to get relief.
30:26Hannah Berner: These thoughts can feel very real, which is what makes them so upsetting. It can attach itself to things you care about most, your relationships, your identity, your values, which is what makes it feel so scary and isolating. But it doesn't have to always be that way because OCD is highly treatable with the right kind of specialized therapy. And that's not regular talk therapy, which can actually make OCD worse. OCD needs ERP or exposure and response prevention, which is proven to be the most effective treatment. And that's where NoCD comes in. NoCD is the world's leading provider of OCD treatment and their licensed therapists are specially trained in ERP therapy.
31:05Hannah Berner: They'll help you learn how to respond differently to intrusive thoughts so they hold less power over you. And they provide support between sessions when you need it most, so you're never facing OCD alone. NoCD offers live face-to-face virtual therapy, and they're covered by insurance for over 138 million Americans. If this sounds familiar, go to nocd.com to book a free 15-minute call. That's nocd.com.
31:37Hannah Berner: Okay, so my plan this summer is to grab a bunch of my girlfriends, buy a big bucket of popcorn, sit back and feel all the feels watching a movie in the theater. And you know what will fill that void? One Night Only, which is about to be the summer's biggest rom-com when it hits theaters August 7th. I can't wait. It's from the director of Anyone But You and EZA and stars Monica Babaro and Callum Turner. Set in New York City, the two bump into each other on the one night a year single people are allowed to have sex. This sounds so messy and I'm 100 % in. One Night Only is in theaters August 7th.
32:13Hannah Berner: I'll be there. This episode is supported by FX's The Shards, a seductive drama from executive producer Ryan Murphy. Set in 1980s Los Angeles, the series follows a group of glamorous, deeply entangled high school seniors drawn into a life of wealth, beauty, parties, and excess. At its center is Brett, whose reality begins to unravel when the arrival of a new student coincides with a series of mysterious murders. FX's The Shards premieres August 5th on FX and Hulu. I'm about to turn 35 next month. I know. I was thinking about it the other day because I saw some. Are you still going to be friends with me?
32:51Hannah Berner: Yeah, I am. I just don't know what to get you.
32:54Paige DeSorbo: You know what I want. I want something vintage. I know. And cute that I could like tell a story and be like, Paige got this for me. Maybe I can find something that's 35 years old. I don't like that.
33:05Hannah Berner: You know, it's funny because when I turned 30, I was like, I'm not going to care about turning 40, but I'm already thinking about it. And I do care.
33:11Paige DeSorbo: Well, that's because one thing about your anxiety is it's ahead of its time.
33:14Hannah Berner: No, it's quick. Mine is she's quick. And like I'll forget about things quickly, which is nice. But it just means there's something new on the horizon. Like this morning, perfect example. this morning I'm getting dressed and I put this cardigan on and I go I have a yellow mini skirt that's this color where is it so I have a list in my phone of things that I can't find and they're
33:38Paige DeSorbo: lonely and you're worried that they're lonely somewhere scared without you I'm just like I
33:41Hannah Berner: lost them they think I threw it out I didn't throw it out it was by accident mental health
33:46Paige DeSorbo: moment all those thoughts that you have in the middle of the night that you're like you think of and you're like how have I not been dealing with this all day why is this coming to me in all the night like this is the biggest thing in my life right now those thoughts aren't real okay kitty's emergency bag is very real try to just be like i'll deal with this in the morning and then don't but do you write it down to remember it at a later date or you're like
34:11Hannah Berner: i don't trust the dark voices okay that come through my psyche the next time you text me and say hey do you and kitty want to go to the hamptons i'll say getting in the car because i'm
34:22Paige DeSorbo: packed and ready wait i got in a mahjong k-hole i play mahjong on my phone not real mahjong like just the like i got really worked up because i couldn't get past the level next thing i knew
34:33Hannah Berner: it was 3 a.m oh but i can't shop on amazon at 3 a.m but you can learn a whole new sport never
34:38Paige DeSorbo: said you can't shop on amazon i said stop making up lies and then causing yourself heart palpitations
34:44Hannah Berner: no sometimes your pelvis would be better i will think of something and i'll be like if i don't go to my phone right now and order it on Amazon like I'll freak out. Yeah. That's not good. I have a question. Yeah. And everyone's been wondering it. Continue. I want to show you these shoes because I feel like they're very you coded.
35:01Paige DeSorbo: Why did you pull that out so swiftly? Was that in your pocket? Like what the fuck?
35:07Hannah Berner: My foot's right here. She pulled it out of your ear. I did present it like a magician. Like I had it floating the whole time.
35:19Paige DeSorbo: It's like when you take out a panini, you always do that. You always do it like with your, oh, lost my dog. I love presenting things to you in like a really cohesive manner.
35:33Hannah Berner: Well, those are cute. I feel like these are such a you shoe. Are they for wide feet? Because it's a ballet flat, but it has like a little bit of a heel. So like changes your whole vibe in like jeans without being like flat to the ground. It's Aldo, right? Or what is it?
35:51Paige DeSorbo: it's in it it's in it oh everyone wants to know is your hair in a side part or a middle part right now
36:03Hannah Berner: it's Sunday afternoon so I'm actually not in charge and it's illegal that I'm even here it's none of your business actually yeah it's actually none of your business because I'm being thrown because Jessie wants me to be a certain way and millennials want me to be a certain way. And I like to do both on the same day. She's fluid. She's versed. I like to do a middle part for starting out and then you have a sunglass on your head or you're in a conversation and you just side it up.
36:38Paige DeSorbo: You know why I'm stressed when you're hanging out with me at home and I have my hair tie on my wrist and my hair keeps going up and then going down and then going up and then going down. What is that called?
36:49Hannah Berner: You know, I've replaced that with big claw clips because I find the reason I'm taking it out of the hair tie is because it's falling. And I don't like the sensation of that or like feeling like it was on top of my head or it's like too tight. Do you have a big claw clip? So claw clips, I do like. This is the nitty gritty that we need to get into. No, wait, I'm actually about to get into real nitty gritty. Yeah, because they're not all created equal.
37:12Paige DeSorbo: And the problem with claw clips is that you can't sit back. Like, you're in the car. You can't sit back your head. You're watching TV. You can't sit back. So then the girlies.
37:23Hannah Berner: But sometimes I find it comfortable if you're under something and it perches you up almost.
37:28Paige DeSorbo: Oh, like it hits a certain, like, acupuncture point. And you're like, oh, that's kind of nice.
37:33Hannah Berner: Yeah, like, sometimes it helps. But girls on TikTok.
37:37Paige DeSorbo: the only thing that helps my scoliosis is a claw clip in the back of my cranium i keep getting
37:44Hannah Berner: clips of like people with real scoliosis do you want to apologize to the community yeah i do because i i'm not making light because mine is like non-existent some people like are really
37:54Paige DeSorbo: in pain i just thought scoliosis was going to be more rampant or people just don't talk about it i feel like people aren't talking about it but you know what people are talking about girls are inventing claw clips that are soft so that when you push your head back it like closes so this is where um the scientific research is going into is it like made of rubber i think so so they're they're working on that changing the game with that oh did you watch that documentary
38:22Hannah Berner: did you watch that documentary i started it i haven't finished so because i'm like learning
38:29Paige DeSorbo: from my past mistakes i'm not going to tell you guys what happened even though you know i want to
38:33Hannah Berner: so bad but i watched half of it and i actually convinced myself that i could move on from it no no because you would tell me the ending but the thing is the thrill of this is you think it's
38:43Paige DeSorbo: done halfway and then it throws you do you want to be surprised by me or by the screen while you're watching your phone well how long has it been out for a week yeah you okay get mad at her get mad
38:57Hannah Berner: so what's it about you start you start i stopped at the girlfriend is pregnant she's calling the cops because the ex-girlfriend is stalking her sending her like crazy emails she tried to send a guy to come to her house and sexually assault her and they the police just went to the ex-girlfriend's house and the ex-girlfriend's like what are you talking about incredible setup and also i just
39:30Paige DeSorbo: want to this is so fucked up they're saying that the ex-girlfriend is putting craigslist ads saying i want to be s-aid yes pretending to be the current girlfriend and giving the current girlfriend's house and address basically being like i'm gonna fight i'm gonna say no let's this is role play keep going so that's the most sinister thing i've ever heard in my life and they were just like we're warming up also craigslist isn't regulated like you can just go on the internet the fun thing about craigslist is like i fully can find a great apartment there like i found so many apartments i can also find a man in a bunny costume willing to do anything no one has the oscar range of craigslist and no one talks about it also craigslist is like we're never updating our website and there's something beautiful about that.
40:19Hannah Berner: And I feel like OnlyFans had this like insane glow up of like they had articles after articles. They had spokespersons. They had faces of OnlyFans and it's like Craigslist has been around. Zero PR. Zero PR and you could essentially do the exact same thing. It's just a written forum.
40:37Paige DeSorbo: What's great about this documentary is I love how it can control your biases, biases, pelvis, pelvis, this because you can i hate the word biopic it sounds like a biopsy yeah like then that just
40:51Hannah Berner: reminded me of it i hate when people say biopic makes it scientific i'm like it's not i think
40:57Paige DeSorbo: shut up it's a movie no it's like a film it's a film yeah it's a movie okay keep going so she also wait i hate to say it i thought the guys were gay you know me i think so like i don't even
41:10Hannah Berner: I'm not even questioning it at this point. I'm like, whatever you're saying, we'll go with that.
41:15Paige DeSorbo: Like, who am I? The whole time you're like, this fucking crazy ex-girlfriend is trying to ruin the new girlfriend's life. And you're like, these crazy ex-girlfriends. But one thing we know is when someone calls an ex-girlfriend crazy, there's a lot of the time more to the story. Yes, there's more to the story. There's more to the story. so the cop goes up finally goes up to the ex-girlfriend's house and it's like you're being arrested for the emails and the girl goes I know it was like a bad email I was going through a time and immediately in my head I was like she wouldn't admit to it if she did it she was admitting to probably sending a post breakup email where you're like go fuck yourself kind of thing very therapeutic recommended
42:00Hannah Berner: ended i wish i could find some old ones that i've gotten one night in my one night in my middle of the night like computer siege i tried to find like old ones from like college in my email but i
42:15Paige DeSorbo: couldn't i feel like i have like crazy facebook messages paragraphs so immediately i'm like something's wrong but the girl is just like yeah i was going through a really difficult time it was crazy so she sounds like she's admitting to it she's like i had a psychosis and i was like okay like yeah okay happens to the best of us we're taking accountability and we're moving on let's stop we found the problem we mixed the problem let's move great so the second half goes into who is this new pregnant girlfriend in her past she's faked cancer which is a this is a certain mental illness that I'm seeing in a lot of documentaries right now I wonder what that is the faking pregnancy the faking cancer the Clayton um bachelor podcast um is about the same thing there's a certain mental illness where you love lying about like sympathy you love like sympathy yeah and pregnancy is like under because when you're pregnant everyone has to treat you differently same with cancer um same with like injury faking yeah that kind of stuff so I'm like okay she's one of these so she they literally filmed the boyfriend realizing that she's doesn't have cancer and that she's and that she's not pregnant okay because she was saying she was uh who whatever she has an intervention and she's like i'm leaving can we just say one thing how
43:42Hannah Berner: dumb are these men like i feel like it's really hard to fake pregnancy well maternal instinct
43:48Paige DeSorbo: literally like she faked a pregnancy she was 50 weeks pregnant at one point that there's a physical
43:55Hannah Berner: evidence like if you say cancer okay no one can see it inside your body there's a like you said
44:01Paige DeSorbo: about the ysl man they don't think big picture they're like she said she's pregnant i gotta i
44:08Hannah Berner: gotta brush past each other in the bathroom like what are you talking about like this would like You just turned into Gary. I'm just going to say, none of these people are Italian. Because what do you mean that no one in the family is pregnant? You haven't hugged and you couldn't feel that was a pillow? They're not Italian.
44:29Paige DeSorbo: But I do think with technology, they probably have some good fake pregnancy bellies on Amazon.
44:34Hannah Berner: You know, I actually wore one on like an episode of Winter House. It was... We had run out of themes. We had run out of themes. I wasn't there to speak up. I had disassociated so hard. I actually wasn't there. I said, sure, this is what we're doing now. This off to college season, save on college and save the everyday. I remember when I first got to college and I thought I was prepared. I know everything that's happening. I was so focused on my daily outfits and making sure I had the perfect aesthetic that I completely forgot about one major part of college and that's themed parties. Every other week there was some random theme night and I was always scrambling at the last minute trying to pull something together.
45:22Hannah Berner: Whether it was a costume, accessories, decorations, or something group theme, I somehow never had what I needed and I was constantly making a last minute purchase to save the day. College is already so chaotic enough and it's always the little things that catch you off guard. That's why I love Amazon makes off to college shopping so easy. So whether it's dorm essentials, school supplies, organizational items, or those last minute things you suddenly realize you need, Amazon has great deals, everyday low prices, a huge selection, and the convenience to help you get it all in one place. So remember with Amazon low off to college prices, just save on college, save the everyday.
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49:12Hannah Berner: She leaves that relationship.
49:14Paige DeSorbo: And what's great about the con artists is they love to reappear like in a slightly different neighborhood. Yeah, with a different hair color. She went from blonde to brunette And I was like I've never seen this bitch before
49:24Hannah Berner: And at the end of the day we're all just girls And it's like when you know your mom's getting older We're all just girls At the end of the day Con artists want to feel pretty
49:33Paige DeSorbo: You start envisioning her Like okay so Is she behind it all One is she pregnant Two did she just want Did she hate the ex-girlfriend And she felt like the ex-girlfriend Was always going to be in her life
49:49Hannah Berner: But the guy was like, I haven't talked to my ex-girlfriend. But the thing is, the ex-girlfriend owns his condo.
49:55Paige DeSorbo: Oh, right. Okay. The ex-girlfriend owns the condo that they're living in. So long story short, something weird. I miss that part. But also, every time the cops come, this is, I do have to say, someone needs to give an award to, what are the cameras they have outside of your house? Ring cameras? Ring cameras. Yeah. And cop cameras.
50:16Hannah Berner: Remember when ring cameras? Are doing the grunt work. Wait, remember during the Super Bowl, Ring Camera made that crazy commercial and they were like, hey, we're going to track everything. And everyone was like, I don't think so. Do you remember that? They were like, you are going to be able to connect to your neighbors. Oh, like Ring Cameras to see if you had them. Like we're going to be able to see, take pictures or whatever and find your missing dog. And everyone was like, no, don't love that.
50:42Paige DeSorbo: But incredible for a Netflix documentary. Yeah, because you're just seeing the footage. so but every time they come in the husband's really worked up like the husband's like this fucking bitch that's how he talks he's like this fucking bitch keeps sending us crazy messages and the girl's explaining and then they're both on their computers like it's it's giving they're in it together like they're sending it to themselves yeah but then they find out that this girl is faking her pregnancy. The girlfriend. Yeah. So then he goes to the police and he's like, I'm sleeping with the enemy. I don't trust anything about her.
51:21Paige DeSorbo: How do you find out? The cops told him, I think. Okay. So now you're like, okay, it's all this crazy girlfriend. But you're like, now we have an ex-girlfriend in jail. Can someone check up on her? The ex-girlfriend sits down and goes, I need to tell you about this man. and I go finally some juice what? she goes let me tell you about this man I dated and why I was in a psychosis so apparently first of all he's a Disney adult which is pleasant for many people I didn't like it coming from him and she was like a very wholesome person I guess he wanted his bell I try not to judge Disney adults for women
52:02Hannah Berner: cute different I'm not even going to say cute but like different do your thing girl you're on your own journey and we support men being disney adults on their own
52:12Paige DeSorbo: not part of a family a single man as a disney adult i'm calling the police don't come near my children i'll tell you that 100 so he's like you're my bell and she's like okay and then but she's really like kind of prude and sweet like doesn't do drugs and whatever so they move in together for some reason she buys the condo which i don't love because she was it's not like She had money. She was like, I'm broke, but I got us this condo. I'm like, I don't like that. But anyway, then he starts asking her, I want to see you hook up with another man. So my gaydar is going off. No one mentioned it the whole documentary.
52:46Paige DeSorbo: I'm like, he wants to see a man. A dick. Yeah. But I digress. Yeah. Again, you don't judge. I don't judge. And she's like, I'd actually like rather not.
52:58Paige DeSorbo: She's like, ooh, that's actually the one part. Cool. cool i love that um that we're getting creative yeah i love brainstorming i'll do throwing ideas in we'll pick which ones work but she was like no apparently every fucking day he was bringing it up to her okay and he was like crazy controlling so he like is tracking her telling her what to wear how to act and she's young again she's like 10 years younger than him she's 25 we're moldable yeah and finally she's like okay like i'll sleep with a man okay if you want me to and she was just like traumatized by it she was like it's fucked up and eventually she has like escape from him someone was visiting and she like ran out like you know it's fucking bad yeah yeah yeah and he's blowing up her phone all this stuff and she goes into like a fight or flight psychosis yeah and
53:48Hannah Berner: she was found like in the middle of a field i can't believe i haven't left somewhere in the
53:53Paige DeSorbo: middle of the night that's so me yeah to be like you know what i'm just gonna leave i mean i hope you don't ever have to but if you can you'll be able to bring Daphne very fast that's one thing we know that's that's one thing Daphne will be fine you literally never know we found a page in a field but her cat had a Louis Vuitton bag Daphne's like in a bed that has like four posts
54:17Hannah Berner: and we're just like on the sidewalk like we're figuring it out figuring it out it was an emergency
54:25Paige DeSorbo: Emergency move. Anyway, okay, keep going. So she was in a psychosis found by a Native American family. Okay. And they were like, this girl needs help. Okay. And then she kind of gets out of the psychosis and sends him an email. It's basically like, go fuck yourself.
54:37Hannah Berner: Yeah. Okay, and that's the email. She was like, sorry.
54:40Paige DeSorbo: And I think in the email she said something kind of religious about like God is watching or like something.
54:48Hannah Berner: I love that. I mean, I hope so. Actually, it doesn't seem like it. It's getting crazy. God was watching. Yeah, it seems like he X'd out of the tab accidentally.
54:58Paige DeSorbo: God was too busy to deal with this stuff. So I guess the girlfriend used words from her email to continue that voice. But also it was crazy. Honestly, kind of smart. But wasn't smart. The emails that they're getting, I was like, how do they know it's the ex-girlfriend? She was signing it, Michelle. Perfect. I'm like, if I was sending crazy emails to someone, the one thing I, even that mom who was sending crazy text messages, she's not signing it your mom. like there's something mysterious about you not knowing who it's coming from this whole point and they were like michelle the shitty ex-girlfriend like that's how they were signing it so that was fucking weird so then you're like wait this guy this is where multiple truths can be true she's a con artist yeah he's a psychopath together perfect marriage so who was sending the email so they think they did research on the credo they think it was coming from him he was sending it
55:48Hannah Berner: to the girlfriend who was lying about being pregnant, pretending to be his ex-girlfriend. Yeah, and I think she was in it.
55:55Paige DeSorbo: And he, oh, guess what he used to get a guy to come over for, like, Craigslist.
56:03Hannah Berner: How has Craigslist not been shut down, even for, like, a month? Like, all PR is good PR. Like, there's definitely been murders
56:14Paige DeSorbo: where people have met on Craigslist. I think because when it gets to the court, They're like, if you thought you were going to go on Craigslist and have a good experience, that's on you, baby.
56:23Hannah Berner: Craigslist has a phenomenal law team. Whoever is in the law department there, because how many times have they probably had to have been like, not liable? We have nothing to do with that.
56:33Paige DeSorbo: Because Craigslist, their whole business theme is under promise over deliver. They never say they're going to be helpful. Do they have a tagline? No. It's probably like, we're stuff online. Like, I don't know. It's like, we're Craig. We're here. don't really involve us. Bad things might happen. That's their tagline. So when something bad happens, they're like, that's, but if something good happens, like you get a kitten from it, you're like, holy fuck, that was amazing Craigslist. But they're like, but don't expect that every time.
57:00Hannah Berner: We have a lot of bad qualities.
57:03Paige DeSorbo: But sometimes we have good qualities. Focus on them. I would love their marketing meeting. Like I'd love to be in it and to be like, is this the month that we maybe update the font? And someone's like, go fuck yourself.
57:13Hannah Berner: Like something really bad happens on Craigslist and they're like, this month we're gonna focus on apartments for sale like let's also there's someone who sees
57:23Paige DeSorbo: all the stuff going on at craigslist and is just like this is another day at work no that's what
57:28Hannah Berner: i'm saying like i need to talk to someone who works at craigslist to there has to be a giggler
57:32Paige DeSorbo: at craigslist there has to be a giggler at craigslist like and i'm sure like they have to
57:37Hannah Berner: be getting called by the police a ton too like hey we think there's like a link between someone
57:42Paige DeSorbo: that emailed someone also you know other sites they have to put so much like you're not allowed to post this that i'm pretty sure craigslist is like you could post whatever and it no one really
57:50Hannah Berner: cares right like does craigslist have an approval like where you post something and then like they have to approve if that's okay or it you can just post anything and it just shows up post
58:01Paige DeSorbo: and like it's the creeps are very organized like they're like i'm looking for this with this with this they put it in wherever it has to be in the category and they find each other i literally found
58:13Hannah Berner: three apartments at craigslist it's really good in new york do you want to know something i've never even typed in craigslist before i don't even know what you're doing tonight i don't even know what the home page i know what you're doing at 3am tonight you're about to whenever i wanted
58:26Paige DeSorbo: a kitten i would go into craigslist and be like orange kitten bronx and you can shop and you can the people literally just like put their cell phone number and you just text them you're like hey i like your kitten they're like great they're like great come over yeah but you know in the 90s we had community i don't know if it's around the 90s yeah that's the internet yeah but um
58:48Hannah Berner: so yeah cool i actually am gonna do like a deep dive on craigslist like are people shopping for like is there like vintage clothes on yeah like is there a like like if i went on and said hey i have this cat for sale is craigslist verifying that i have a cat for sale they can only do so
59:06Paige DeSorbo: much let's not ask too much of craigslist craigslist is with is if etsy and street easy and ebay had a really bad child ebay needs better pr you know what i think they need to update their
59:21Hannah Berner: font and their color scheme because ebay though if you're if you go on to buy like something vintage clothing wise by ebay they're getting it first and making sure it's right i've seen a lot of tiktoks of girls who have gotten like really crazy bags from ebay that when i went through a whole
59:37Paige DeSorbo: approval process and stuff the victoria's secret show we were like what if we wore vintage victoria secret and we found a 13 slip from ebay yeah this is an unsponsored yeah but um with ebay but yeah
59:51Hannah Berner: craigslist just have little just beware yeah just craigslist is like that cousin that you only see like once in a while who's like every time you see them they're like into something new and you're like he smokes weed now also i love that like the girlies get really into craigslist do you like for what i don't know oh maybe after this pod we'll see let me just check my docket
1:00:13Paige DeSorbo: make sure i didn't have anything else yeah well i do have to say our merch yeah we basically sold out so we're ordering a s'more that's how it works yeah so we ordered some more and
1:00:27Hannah Berner: you're saying it like s'mores some more no i'm having issues yes sorry some more actually some more is hard for me to say oh well maybe that's a good thing for you to work on when you're like
1:00:37Paige DeSorbo: at home you're like maybe working on your own time not on our professional podcast
1:00:42Hannah Berner: she goes this is the little personal diary it's actually we draw the line at
1:00:47Paige DeSorbo: at that okay well thank you for giggling with us we'll talk to you guys later bye
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