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25 Aug 2026 · 57m · 22 chapters

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Giggling about dark arts, dissociating, and cupcakes

In short

Back-to-school reset and routines; dating and “fantasy partner” ideas; mental health themes like dissociation; cat culture; and heated discussion of gendered violence/sexism in sports advertising (Callaway/Good Good golf ad). They also cover reality-TV hosting, sleep/mattresses, and weekend life (track, bars, horse racing, scrabble, car colors, baking/cupcakes).

Guest backgrounds

The episode is hosted by Amy Brown (Feeling Things with Amy and Kat) with Kat. The main “guest” discussed is Hannah Burner, who talks about hosting a Paramount+ dating reality show. No other named guests appear as interviewees; other celebrities are mentioned only as film cast (Spa Weekend).

Key claims

“Dabbling in the dark arts” = hooking up with an ex; dissociation/detaching as a relationship skill; in dating, people should question what they truly want; “making love” tests whether fantasy matches real love; hot people may be avoiding internal work; violence toward women in ads isn’t “relatable humor.”

Notable examples

Making Love (Paramount+, early 2027); Callaway/Good Good ad where a man pushes a woman down (“don’t touch my driver”); cat cafe reactions; Scrabble dictionary rules; baking a Maryland state cake (8–12 layers).

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Chapters

1:05

Spa Weekend Movie Discussion

Discussion about the movie 'Spa Weekend' and its cast.

1:49

Transition to Personal Stories

Hosts share personal anecdotes, including Hannah's hosting gig and struggles.

4:57

Dabbling in the Dark Arts

Discussion around past relationships and humor about exes.

8:19

Cats and Their Appeal

Exploration of attitudes toward cats and their unique charm.

“Wait, you guys, Paige just coined, when you hook up with your ex, it's called dabbling in the dark arts.”
10:52

Finding Love: Reality Show Insights

Insights on love, dating, and hosting a reality dating show.

14:02

Navigating Relationships and Personal Growth

Explore the challenges of relationships and personal growth as we transition from our 20s to our 30s.

“I just don't want him to be jealous of it.”
17:40

The Importance of Mutual Affection

Discuss the significance of a relationship where both partners genuinely like each other more.

22:33

The Social Overwhelm: Recognizing Limits

Understanding social fatigue and the psychological impact of returning to familiar places.

“You know, I didn't take any pictures, not even of my outfit.”
24:46

Critique of Gender Dynamics in Marketing

An intense discussion on a controversial advertisement and its implications on gender stereotypes.

28:00

Examining Gender Dynamics in Sports

Discusses the implications of men’s violence against women in sports contexts.

“so you're saying that's relatable pushing someone and showing physical violence to a woman as funny and silly of basically being like women are dispendable objects and that my golf club is more valuable than them.”
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29:00

Women's Influence in Golf

Explores the challenges women face in golf and their fight for recognition.

30:20

Challenging Masculinity in Sports

Critiques traditional masculinity and its effects on women in sports.

32:00

Cultural Commentary on Sports Ads

Analyzes a controversial sports advertisement and its societal implications.

39:06

Social Anxiety and Ride Shares

Shares experiences and thoughts on social dynamics in ride-sharing.

“You can check out the full terms in the app and if you live in a non-Waymo city, sign up to help bring Waymo to your city at waymo.com slash updates.”
42:01

Scrabble Showdown and Unwritten Rules

Learn about an intense Scrabble game that escalated due to varying rules.

44:22

Cupcake Superstitions and Relationships

Explore the connection between baking cupcakes and relationship outcomes.

“I think we need to have a weekly Mahjong.”
47:15

The Art of Layered Cakes

Hear about a complicated cake request and the challenges of baking.

49:16

Car Colors and Industry Whimsy

Discuss the lack of fun colors in the car industry and personal preferences.

“If you're a producer listening, put Gary on.”
51:49

Meeting Celebrities: Tips and Anecdotes

Get advice on how to approach celebrities when meeting them for the first time.

“Bring back Exhibit, who, by the way, loves cats.”
54:54

Reflections on Celebrity Absences

Contemplate the reasons behind celebrities stepping back from the limelight.

“Well, I was going to text you because it's about a pop star and her former costume designer stylist who like helped create her career.”
56:00

Discussion on Movies and Celebrity News

The hosts discuss upcoming movies, celebrities, and personal sentiments about their careers.

“And she goes back to them to like make a dress for her.”
1:01:38

Chanty Beluga, Shows, and Nepo Babies

The hosts discuss the Chanty Beluga trend, share thoughts on shows like Furious and Sterling Point, debate nepo babies, and close with a mental health moment.

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Transcript

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0:00Hannah Berner: This is Amy Brown from Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Back to school season always feels like a fresh start, not just for kids, but for all of us. It's a great reminder to create new routines and find meaningful ways to connect with our family, friends and community. Hasbro games make it easy to gather around the table, put the screens away, share some laughs and create joyful memories together. Whether it's Monopoly, Connect Four, Guess Who or another family favorite, there's something for everyone. You can find these and other Hasbro favorites at your local Walmart, walmart.com, or simply tap the link in today's show notes to bring more play into your week.

0:38Hannah Berner: A luxury resort, relaxing treatments, peace and quiet. What could possibly go wrong? In Spa Weekend, Leslie Mann, Isla Fisher, Michelle Buteau, and Anna Faris star as four lifelong friends whose much-needed getaway becomes the wildest weekend of their lives. From the directors of Bad Moms and the writers of The Hangover, it's self-care with some very unexpected side effects. Book your escape spa weekend only in theaters August 21st. You know, we're making art here. Suck gigglers. Harriet, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

1:14Hannah Berner: I mean, the day just got away from me.

1:19Paige DeSorbo: good morning my galapagos island gigglers someone literally was like hannah has one

1:27Hannah Berner: job to come up with g words and she literally can't anybody ever you would think you'd

1:34Paige DeSorbo: google something sorry i don't use ai this is sorry i'm not chat gbting it this is just from

1:42Hannah Berner: the noggin and it doesn't always work honestly in today's day and age we we want that more i just saw on the internet wait i just saw it was either like complex or like world star posted it but like china is china's doing like olympics with robots right now no no and like they're not

2:04Paige DeSorbo: doing well no use the men use that there's plenty of men that could go fight right now it's like

2:11Hannah Berner: low-key sad because the robots will just like fall and like be broken well especially because you hate when inanimate objects get hurt well i'm like but also robots freak me out so i have a weird relationship with them as an object because i'm like yeah because during our like

2:32Paige DeSorbo: prime brain forming years there were like multiple movies like iRobot and other stuff that came out and we were just like we see the future don't need to be involved in that want to know something

2:43Hannah Berner: weird that like yeah no one else is gonna get but you but whatever this whatever this sorry podcast i'm on the wrong side in the zoom and i don't like it wait me too how do we switch it i don't think you can i think because i don't know it got whoever was on first i think then like changed our

3:08Paige DeSorbo: order when you said like no one else is gonna get this but you i was like well what about the gigglers they understand everything and then you say a niche specific tech thing that we have on zoom and i'm like yeah you're right maybe the audio podcast listeners aren't gonna appreciate that but thank you for bringing it up i just wanted to know if you have the same thinking pattern as i do i know for sure because i keep looking left and you're not there you're always to my right i have to make housekeeping announcement okay as you guys know the reason my Masseter massacre was so stressful was because I had booked my first ever like hosting gig and I couldn't speak about it so I was like fighting for my life trying to express myself literally couldn't speak about it I couldn't speak and then I couldn't smile I was trapped in my own body and face but finally they're letting me give a little tea your mouth is really good right now i thought it was good and then i hosted the cat event and i looked at the

4:08Hannah Berner: photos after and i was like oh no i'm still a freak wow right when you say cat mine came out from under the bed because she knows yeah she knows it's oh hannah had an event and didn't

4:20Paige DeSorbo: sorry daphne you can't be the face of every campaign relating to cats take a day off she's calling her agent right now she's like there was a cat cafe in west hampton and no one

4:29Hannah Berner: contact on my team she's like i looked at the pictures not one cat had blue eyes so like what

4:34Paige DeSorbo: are we doing here oh my god um so anyway early 2027 mark your calendars yes i'm hosting a dating reality show called making love sexual entering my match maker era the marketing team had no idea what they were in for when they were like who should we cast oh hannah burner hannah burner

5:03Hannah Berner: seems like a good host for the show and they're like great she's got a podcast you can talk about it on our podcast never did they think that their show would be getting watched based on hannah's

5:17Paige DeSorbo: botched plastic surgery when i tell you i can't move my mouth until maybe episode six slightly i mean the first and let me tell you the team behind this show is the team behind love is blind married at first sight like these are the real deal like i'm not doing a dating reality show unless it's like the creme of the creme is that the creme de la creme you combined creme de la creme with cream of the crop because you get me so these people were like really if like they knew what they were doing they knew how to do a hit show and i was sitting in my trailer and i'm like i'm gonna ruin everyone's day like i just was scared i was getting fired so the good news is i didn't get fired but what i loved about the show is it actually really reminded me of you and your dating style because you remember when we first met i think you talked about this on tv too you had your like insane fucking list you're like i want a guy who makes me pancakes i still have it do you still have it of course do you check it of course do you update it absolutely

6:24Hannah Berner: do you take stuff out yep like i've grown older i've had different accommodations like there are certain things where i was like wow i don't need a man for that take it out

6:39Paige DeSorbo: yeah the the becoming a professional plumber really helped with a lot of those things

6:43Hannah Berner: handy around the house interesting

6:48Paige DeSorbo: so the show is called making love and it's this it's this really fun concept i'm obsessed with it where what if you could create your fantasy partner so they basically had people come in with a list whatever they wanted it's their fantasy and then they went out and found that person to see if they actually would fall in love if you found someone who checked every box on your list but then also that fantasy person that comes in gets to create their own fantasy person oh so it was fucking crazy once everyone comes in and they're like that's your perfect person that's what you've been waiting for is this gonna be the love of your life now and you could meet your perfect person and be like i hate this person do you know how many times on a dating app i'm like that's my perfect person and then like you meet them and you're like why am i creeped out why I don't care his eyes like that.

7:43Hannah Berner: Or like when you meet a really hot guy and then you like start talking to him and then like after 30 minutes or like a year, you're like, I think you're hideous. Like how many men do you know that people find so hot that you're like, like you would vomit? I just, I know who you're thinking of and I actually, I can't.

8:07Paige DeSorbo: Well, you're like me where once we move on, we move on. Yeah.

8:11Hannah Berner: Well, no, you've dabbled in the past before. Well, look, my dabbling in the dark arts is different. I've moved on.

8:19Paige DeSorbo: Wait, you guys, Paige just coined, when you hook up with your ex, it's called dabbling in the dark arts. Use it, move forward with it, do what you need with it. That ain't... That was so... Angel somewhere just like, I've taught her well.

8:34Hannah Berner: Yeah, like, I'm over it. I'm just trying to, like, ruin your life a little more.

8:39Paige DeSorbo: You actually do like revenge a little more than me. I would say a lot.

8:44Hannah Berner: I called my mom a week ago and I said this verbatim. I need more revenge. Because I think you've had enough.

8:53Paige DeSorbo: But I also think that you can be less emotional than me in relationships. Like you know how to like turn off for evil. Like when you have a purpose, you can like detach. You're good at detaching. Great at detaching. okay you're really good at disassociating these are things that could we could talk to someone about but that's kitty this is a kitty game the video listeners are getting so much good stuff

9:19Hannah Berner: when your cat decides to come up to you and sit on you like i'm sorry you're a millionaire like that is i'm the richest woman in the world right now we talk about cats every episode but

9:33Paige DeSorbo: like i don't like i don't mind people you know how many people came to my cat cafe and they were like i don't like cats and then within three minutes they're like wait that's cute as fuck i'm like okay no no they just didn't know like they don't know they just hear of cats through people who talk shit about cats wait wait wait i'm meeting a friend and you've only learned about that friend through people who don't fuck with that friend of course you're not gonna like that

9:57Hannah Berner: friend okay but showing up to a cat cafe and verbalizing that you don't like cats is if i walked into an aa meeting and offered everyone a cocktail non-cat people like really strongly

10:11Paige DeSorbo: identify against cats so they like they like have to say it they're like i have a dog like they have to but do you know what i realized this is why we love cats cats are that fucking girl people who've never even been in the same room as them hate them like everyone's out here hating you and you've never even met a cat and you hate them and you're talking shit about cats and you literally use the h word you hate a cat that takes star power

10:41Hannah Berner: it really does it really does star power and then they spend five minutes in the room with them and they're like they're actually like really really nice he's a little girl so anyway i also decided

10:52Paige DeSorbo: i wanted to do this because i obviously have taken a break from reality and i wanted to wait for like the perfect opportunity to get involved as a host being in full control minus my emotions and smile um and i love love i am a romantic i love love but i was really bad with height i'm not gonna i've been i'm bad with the height while you're hosting when i was dating oh i thought like you as the host you're like okay i would never pick you

11:22Hannah Berner: you're like oh it's a short one we weren't expecting that okay it's very interesting to go from reality tv to them like posting reality tv yeah like when you were filming did you have your own inner thoughts about people that like obviously you're not saying because you're the objective one there you're like the news reporter you can't have a side no i was

11:47Paige DeSorbo: fully had sides i was crying but it's part of my job to like by the end i felt connected to everyone in a certain way because you guys know how i speak to men some of these men i whipped into shape like from the very beginning some guy was like trying to be funny chatty chat i put i said that's not how we're doing it in this house i would i felt like the substitute teacher who was like i don't know who you've been talking to previously this year but i don't fuck with this shit and then by the end like once you get them to like like you then you you they open up and that was like the most fun part like I I had so much fun making them laugh but then like I saw some of these people like find love I saw some of these people get their fucking heart shattered on tv and there's moments you know when you're a host like you're standing there they're changing positions with cameras and they make eye contact with me like I'm their like big sister and I was like I gave them like thumbs up like you're doing great like like trust yourself like I don't know I just it was a little healing for me to be back in that place and see people on reality tv but a dating competition is so different than like a bravo show I don't think that gigglers know this one thing

12:59Hannah Berner: about you um I'm scared Hannah gets like really upset if you're really hot and you like say that you have you're having trouble dating because you're like i don't get it when you see a really

13:17Paige DeSorbo: hot person and they are like i can't find someone i haven't dated i'm like bro you you could date anyone you want girl and guy so it it makes me think that like there's stuff they haven't worked on internally you got we all know those really hot people who were like 43 and they're like i don't know i just haven't ever found someone i'm like i don't trust that yeah it really annoys me but i think what's so cool about this show is a lot of people are like well they're i haven't met my dream person they're like okay here it is here's your dream person we looked all over america and we fucking found that person plus more and better can you make them can you actually is that your can you fall in love with them and it it made people question like what they thought they wanted and i got to kind of challenge people's beliefs and be like so you said you wanted a guy like this but he's like this does that mean you're not going to give him a chance like if he has a slightly different um spiritual belief or if he's a different nationality than you thought like national why do i say midwest nationality sometimes you do go like straight wisconsin you know it was a time it was a time in my past that i yeah like okay if i looked

14:31Hannah Berner: up my list right now i actually yeah if i looked up my list let's see when like the last time i have a list on my phone that says dear page

14:46Paige DeSorbo: you're adorable and i knew that like if this on paper would have been script with a heart

14:51Hannah Berner: to page sometimes for manifestation i write a letter to myself um that That congratulates me for things that I haven't accomplished yet, but that's how I manifest. Okay, 2020. I haven't looked at it since 2024.

15:06Paige DeSorbo: Wait, this is huge. I'm set. Oh, she's a lot.

15:13Paige DeSorbo: Give us some of the good ones.

15:20Hannah Berner: Give us the most outlandish ones. It's okay if I make more money. I just don't want him to be jealous of it.

15:26Paige DeSorbo: well that's huge for you like sports not controlling understands my anxiety that's really huge for me wait that's really good um i love you're like can't say that one can't say that one i just wrote deals with like house stuff and that's so valid no but like one thing i'll say

15:48Hannah Berner: that like is on here that I never had in my 20s is like of good character like yeah I feel like once you hit your 30s there's certain things that like men will have done in relationships that aren't even like that bad you're just like oh okay that are truly non-negotiables once you're in your 30s like if you lied to me about any even the what you had for breakfast that morning get the fuck out i can't do it i can't lying is probably like my number one thing we're in my 20s i feel like i'd be like oh well maybe like he was embarrassed and he didn't want to say this or like maybe i got it wrong maybe he really did go now i'm like you're a fucking liar

16:31Paige DeSorbo: do you know what your 20s is too and i'll be so fucking real it's like you want to see who will pick you like you're like what quality of guy well can I get to pick me and like don't be pick me don't be pick me your 20s is like what you you're like who am I and what kind of guy am I gonna be like with and then once they pick you then you realize oh fuck I have to have a relationship with them and then you've been picked by a guy you thought you wanted to pick you this is actually such an important thing to happen in your 20s i had that guy i think like everything on the list i got and and we were in like the perfect looking relationship and then i was i couldn't eat and i was having panic attacks in the shower because everything on the list was correct and i still wasn't happy yeah and then i realized oh the perfect person is the one that when you're with them your cortisol levels aren't spiking you guys are laughing together he believes in you he's your like those are the things not a guy who doesn't cheat right right right i used to think that you

17:46Hannah Berner: had to like accept the lesser of the evils do you know what i mean like like i used to be like I used to date guys and say okay but he'll never cheat on me yeah and I remember I dated one guy and I was like but I feel like he'd make like a good husband and he'll like never cheat on me and you were like you can't stand the sight of him it's also but it's not your fault it's based on

18:11Paige DeSorbo: your past trauma to be like this is my biggest fear I need to make sure it doesn't happen when love is like a lot more deeper than that but also simpler like I always say a relationship is a conversation that goes on for years who do you want to keep having a conversation with oh my god hannah you i know no but we and we're speaking from a place of like we both do have parents that aren't divorced like which is kind of crazy in this day and age it actually is one thing that i've heard from both of our parents relationships is that they like each other yeah they like in the mornings they're like talking to each other

18:53Hannah Berner: like parents talking to each other in the morning is so fucking cute people get really mad about really mad at me about this and really just like ex-boyfriends that i've said this to i 110 truly and fully believe and i don't care what anyone else's rebuttal is that the man has to like you way more than you like him and I think both of our moms are with men that would die without them and like them way more I agree with that to the point that like if you ever feel

19:29Paige DeSorbo: like you're forcing it with a guy if you ever feel like you have to convince a guy to like you move on move on move on so making love is going to be on paramount plus in early 2027 and i think the show is going to be game-changing epic and just challenges all your beliefs of like if you could create your perfect person your fantasy person would you actually fall in love i'm so excited to see your looks because we're women in stem it's important to be experts at a lot of things and one of the things we are experts in is sleep dare i say i'm an expert in the entire

20:03Hannah Berner: bedtime night routine. Dare you say yes. I've maximized my skin routine, my hair masking. I'm really getting into bed mode an hour before I'm in the bed.

20:16Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. You don't just jump into bed. You're not a Neanderthal. Right. Right. I have steps. Also, I've mastered the locations where I sleep.

20:23Hannah Berner: I'm like an infant.

20:24Paige DeSorbo: I fall asleep in any moving vehicle. Yeah. Airport, subway, car. the second the vehicle moves and i could fall asleep you're like a baby yeah any position i

20:36Hannah Berner: could fall asleep like this yeah like this like this will your neck hurt after yes but and it's okay if your neck hurts after because all you have to do is go to a real woman in stem at mattress firm they have legitimate sleep experts the last time i went to go pick out a mattress i ended up talking to a sleep expert which is the most fun date ever actually i ended up talking to a couple of sleep experts. Oh, they pulled out everyone for you. Well, I went to different locations because I was just browsing. Yeah. They truly know how to maximize your sleep. And that's what you want because there are some nights where you're not going to get your full eight hours, but you need to be able to maximize your time in bed.

21:15Paige DeSorbo: Also, some people will call it lazy. I would call sleep the most important part of your existence. If you don't sleep, you can't grow.

21:21Hannah Berner: You can't think you can't talk. And as two women who have figured out how to create an entire your business from our bed and yapping. I got 10 hours of sleep last night. I think we know. Did you? Yeah, it doesn't look like it, but I did. I got an adjustable base bed and I will truly never go back. You know, in the mornings when you wake up and you're like, I do want to do my emails, but like it's Saturday morning, I'm not getting up.

21:43Paige DeSorbo: I'm up. I, as a sweater, love the cooling technology at Mattress Firm because nothing will keep me up more at night than feeling hot. Cool mattress. I want it freezing.

21:55Hannah Berner: Dare we say your pillow's always cool on both sides. And that's called science. And the real women in STEM are the actual scientists that are at Mattress Firm. Instead of you trying to figure it out yourself, they tell you exactly what you need and what you want.

22:11Paige DeSorbo: And one thing about us is we know what we don't know. And when I walk into there, I said, tell me what I need. Go to Mattress Firm, talk to their sleep experts and get matched with your perfect mattress. Like a true woman in STEM. For the great sleep you deserve, visit Mattress Firm. They make sleep easy. www.mattressfirm.com Anyway, you were at the track this weekend.

22:34Hannah Berner: I was. You know, I didn't take any pictures, not even of my outfit. And I wore a hat.

22:39Paige DeSorbo: What kind of hat did you wear? Like a big black one. Oh.

22:43Hannah Berner: Yeah, it's the track. I go once a summer, honestly. And it wasn't that hot this year, which was good. butts we go to like this bar after and so like we're at the track for probably like i don't know from like 2 to 5 30 and then we go to this bar from like usually like for two hours we get to the bar and like my family's like getting a cocktail and like we're seeing people that like we haven't seen in a while and i just get this overwhelming sense that I have to get the fuck out of there.

23:25Paige DeSorbo: Well, yeah, you've been socializing for four hours. That's way past my limit. Your body started rejecting being out.

23:33Hannah Berner: Your existence. Do you want to know what I think it was? And my mom literally got so mad at me. Like once we got home, she's like, you're so dramatic. I love what Kim puts you in your place. sometimes when I'm in places or situations that I have been in a hundred times but did had very different actions I like revert back like okay where we go I've gone to that bar since I was in a senior in high school like after the track I drank at this bar for 10 years so sometimes I feel like when I'm there I think back to like things I've done there yeah I gotta get out of here because someone's gonna be like member a couple years ago when you're on the top of the table like I'm like I can't be here anymore it's bringing back close to your past no it's too close

24:24Paige DeSorbo: stuff that you've like it's like when you're walking through New York City and you're like

24:27Hannah Berner: I think I cried on that block one of my friends was there and he said something to me and I was I had like a moment where I like went back in time and I was like I have to go but there is

24:38Paige DeSorbo: also something so powerful to be like I'm not that girl like I used to be I'm not her and I can sit here but yet you're also you see all those people from before you kind of get afraid you're getting

24:50Hannah Berner: sucked back into it wasn't even like the bad stuff it was more like oh my god I can't believe I used to drink the amount I used to drink and like party and go out and be out for hours and love it and now i'm like if i don't get in the car with ac blasting on me i'm gonna throw up well the horse world is its own its own culture like horse girls are real but but it's crazy everyone says horse girls but then it's only men on the track yeah make that make sense there's like one woman from albany that i think is like a really but all the men are like who are actually like on the horses

25:29Paige DeSorbo: are literally 4 '11 and they had to like oh the jockey find these specific men who are of light um stature i'm like just find a woman if you need a 5 '2 it's interesting that there's not more women

25:45Hannah Berner: but there's actually i think like a couple years ago maybe even longer i might even be going back 10 years there was a documentary on hbo about horse jockeys and they live a really tough life

25:57Paige DeSorbo: like no i bet there's something weird about it it's like how women love cooking but only men are chefs it's like how women love fashion but the top fashion designers are men i'm looking into it i'm trying to figure it out i'm crossing my eyes dotting my t's okay wait i'm pissed off can i talk about something i don't like i felt it brewing i'm jacked up this morning put it in the book have you seen the advertisement going around for callaway golf it's gonna really upset

26:27Hannah Berner: you yeah i'm actually gonna cry right now it really upset me no nothing upsets me more than physicality like that if you haven't seen it they pulled it already but you can find the video callaway golf did a ad they had like a bunch of different social media ads it wasn't like it was like a commercial on tv but it was basically on a golf course and it was a girl walking up to golf clubs and she was about to take one of the golf clubs out the guy standing runs up pushes her to the ground she falls on don't touch my driver don't touch my driver now this is the guys from

27:14Paige DeSorbo: good good which is basically this golf youtube where like guys watch other guys play golf you're if your boyfriend or husband follows them or whatever you have to tell him about this because it's it's so revolting now the question is everyone's wondering is how did it get this far me and you have worked with brands before sometimes you can't even make a a slight little joke and they they're like no so this was approved by so lawyers and creatives and heads of departments so calloway and good good golf put a guy pushing a girl saying don't touch my driver to the ground anyone who says friend who says it's a joke for a joke to be funny it's supposed to be relatable so you're saying that's relatable pushing someone and showing physical violence to a woman as funny and silly of basically being like women are dispendable objects and that my golf club is more valuable than them.

28:20Paige DeSorbo: That's not fucking funny.

28:22Hannah Berner: Also, men are so fucking obtuse because I feel like the argument they would say is like, if the roles were reversed and it was a girl pushing a guy down, it's like, right, but we don't kill you. Like you guys are our number one predator. So that's why it's not funny when it's you pushing us down because you guys already do that in everyday life if you care about protecting women especially

28:45Paige DeSorbo: protecting women in sports and if you're a man that cares about masculinity and being high value the strongest thing you could do is protect women callaway is like a huge company no and

28:59Hannah Berner: wait who owns calloway you're like find the man eli reeves calloway jr 1982 i think that also the

29:10Paige DeSorbo: girl in the video is getting hate like well the girl said she wanted to do it the girl's involved in it sorry imagine being a girl with a room of there's 10 men in the video there's like and they're like okay this is what the video is gonna be it's gonna be funny let's go you think you want her to then stand up for herself in front of all these men and be like i don't think that's funny I don't think that's cool we cannot start hate I'm not about to start hating on this woman right now so she can get fired let her at least get her back let's stay focused on the problem at hand which is the fact the bigger overarching picture I do have to say I have seen a lot of men speak out and be like I used to follow good good and like this is just we are allowed to make choices

29:51Hannah Berner: on our own bodies then I'll find it a joke like if I could if I could go to any state and get an abortion then I would say cool that's fine but since I can't no also women in the golf space

30:04Paige DeSorbo: if you notice the biggest influencers in golf who are women have to be like they're like overly sexualized and on a golf course like you walk in it's just good old boys like it's golf is so where men make deals on the course and where men um have only men days and like it disgusts me so much and by the way that's why i like being fucking good at golf because i like beating

30:28Hannah Berner: these losers actually i feel like the gigglers don't know that like old men are like obsessed with playing golf with you one time i called hannah and i said what are you doing and she said oh i'm on the golf court or no i'm on the tennis court and i said with who and she said like two

30:46Paige DeSorbo: 85 year old men you guys the work we do in feminism isn't always um seen in the public eye but older i play older man sports tennis and golf so obviously the people are playing them is like man between 50 and 80 and now to play with me you have to go through my husband no one has my direct contact so it goes through des and then des tells me all the men that want to compete with me throughout the week this is what i do during the summer so then i say who's made the cut and then once they come i i ruin them no mercy a lot of them like it it's like some weird thing yeah but and then they go back to their their homes and some of these men i think they start realizing women are people after after a lesson with me i need like i need the men to like

31:35Hannah Berner: just like realize that they aren't good athletes and they're not professional ones and just because they all play golf together doesn't mean they're making business deals also how is masculinity

31:50Paige DeSorbo: you being like i want to hang out with my boys and play golf for six hours and i don't want a woman near me and if she tries to touch my stuff i'm gonna push her like it's not funny there was

32:01Hannah Berner: some guy who made a like a video at barstool and he was like i'd rather like sit here and watch the game with you than like go have sex with my girlfriend like if that brings you and your boys closer together have at it but like we okay you freak i just can't with we're really hating

32:20Paige DeSorbo: men this episode i had to speak up on this because you know the sports stuff pisses me off like the men treating women like they're these athletes and women don't belong in their space like giggly squad is about us being able to take up space anywhere we want and i also want there's like this fucking divide between men and women that we have to like conquer because it's getting it's getting scary no i can't even go on tiktok like tiktok has like not been fun for like the past month i'm like okay it's just think pieces of people trying to like take people down for no reason or like think pieces about really scary actual things that are going on yeah no and for

33:05Hannah Berner: calloway to put out a domestic violence commercial in the year 2026 is i i just think one of the craziest things but honestly you know what's gonna happen nothing nothing like nothing if that was a if that was a female owned brand and they did something that was like so they'd be done

33:28Paige DeSorbo: they'd be done oh my god and there's one thing where sometimes people do try to be funny and then you take something out of context or like you're like oh at their heart they were trying to be funny and they just missed this is not that yeah you're a golf brand no one expects you to be

33:43Hannah Berner: funny. If anything, we know everyone that works at your company is not funny. Like, you've actually just proved to us that you're extra not funny. Also, like, stick with golf. Why do you think you can make, like, funny skits on the internet? Support for today's episode comes from Square, the system powering, like, half the places I go. Giggly Squad is a full business, believe it or not. between podcasts, merch, touring, everything. It's a lot of moving parts. And Square helps business owners focus on the fun parts, which is what me and Hannah like to do. And not just Giggly Squad. Have you ever walked into a place and you're like, oh, this business seems really put together.

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35:11Hannah Berner: It just makes everything feel way more under control. And now that we're actually building brands, I realize how important it is that everything just works. The back end matters so much more than people would think. We may not always be the most organized, but Square keeps everything else under control. You don't need an IT team or a degree in accounting. Also, businesses using Square online earn 36 % more revenue on average, which makes sense. If you're starting a business or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage, and grow without slowing down. Right now, you can get up to$200 off Square hardware at square.com slash go slash giggly.

35:51Hannah Berner: That's s-q-u-a-r-e dot com slash g-o slash giggly. Run your business smarter with Square. Get started today. Okay, can we talk about back to school energy for a second? And I don't mean literally going back to school because most of us are past that. But I mean that reset feeling that hits when August is winding down and September starts whether you're in college or 10 years into your career. That new planner smell, that new schedule, an actual bedtime again with healthier routines. But here's what I used to get wrong with that reset. I'd only think about my health when something went wrong. a UTI, a breakout, whatever.

36:30Hannah Berner: This season, I'm doing it differently. I'm building it into my routine instead of waiting for the emergency to happen. That's the whole reason I love WISP, because they're really a complete health platform for women and their partners, which means they've got you whether you need something handled right now or you're just trying to stay ahead of it. Trusted by over 1.8 million people nationwide, going into this new season, they've got everything you actually need to be proactive instead of just reactive, Though obviously they've still got you covered when life happens too. First thing on my reset list, actually knowing where I stand.

37:05Hannah Berner: Wisp has at-home diagnostic testing, STI panels, hormone testing. So you're starting the season with real answers instead of just guessing. It's the same energy as your annual physical, except it shows up at your door. And can we talk about skincare for a second? Wisp has dermatologists backed treatments like GHK-CU topical cream, spironolactone, and tretinoin. Real prescription stuff and built into your routine. It's basically the fall wardrobe switch, but for your skin. However you're resetting this season, they make it easy to actually stick with it. No re-explaining your history every time, no starting from scratch.

37:42Hannah Berner: So take 15 % off your first order with code giggly at hellowisp.com that's hello w-i-s-p.com prescription products require a consultation with a health care provider and medications are available if medically appropriate must be 18 or older restrictions apply see website for full details you guys know i'm somehow always spilling something on myself the other day i dumped an entire caramel latte down the front of my favorite sweater literally as i was walking out the door i was like cool i guess I can never wear this again. But I threw it in the wash with Tide Evo and I was genuinely shocked that it got the coffee stain out.

38:18Hannah Berner: So what even is Tide Evo? It's a brand new super concentrated laundry detergent that's built differently to be Tide's best clean. It dissolves quickly with water and is made of thousands of tiny fibers that are spun together in six powerful cleaning layers to fight odor, stains, and extra work. It's 100 % concentrated with no fillers no extra water and no plastic bottles all clean and no fuss just what i want i love finding new products that actually make life easier and tide evo has definitely earned a spot in my laundry routine whether my clothes have a stain or not i'm using tide evo try the new tide evo super concentrated laundry detergent today can we talk about something for a second you know when you get

39:03Paige DeSorbo: into a ride share and you're immediately like doing the full mental assessment like what are the vibes it smell okay am i going the right direction no and i have like a literal checklist and if you're offering me a water bottle i'm not taking it keep it to yourself dude keep it to yourself i hate when i get in a car and my adrenaline spikes which is why waymo has genuinely changed the game for us a waymo is fully autonomous which means the driver's seat is empty it's just you and as someone with social anxiety this is incredible i don't have to talk to a man about

39:38Hannah Berner: like his childhood i don't have to worry about someone like listening to my phone calls because they get in depth and i name names in the back seat you have your own private little bubble to

39:49Paige DeSorbo: decompress after a long night to do your skincare ugly cry no judgment no weird energy just peace knowing i'll get home safely this is why i love waymo okay so if you want to be unbothered and

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40:19Paige DeSorbo: Cozy is basically the answer to wanting your home to look like you have your life together, even if there's still six water glasses on your nightstand. Cozy is a furniture brand that makes it easy to furnish a home that actually feels like you. Honestly, Cozy has everything you need to make your home feel like it has a plan. They have modular, customizable furniture for basically every room, sofas, shelves, rugs, tables, dining, bedroom, outdoor, and more. I've had the chance to experience Cozy myself and what stood out was how easy everything was from delivery to assembly to actually living in it.

40:52Paige DeSorbo: the furniture instantly makes the space feel more finished and intentional without feeling overly precious and one of the best things is that with cozy your home can grow with you adapting to new spaces new styles in every era of your life the modular pieces make it easy to add on reconfigure or refresh your space over time plus the washable and interchangeable covers are a game changer because real life happens they even offer free one-on-one design consultations so you're not measuring your room in a panic and questioning every decision you've ever made and so at the end of the day cozy makes every day at home feel like your best day transform your living space today with cozy visit cozy.com spelled c o z e y.com the home of possibilities made easy speaking of women in sports i have to make a confession i played scrabble last week most of us when you played Scrabble

41:46Hannah Berner: you know was never a huge fan of it I'm sure that doesn't come as a shock but I thought this game is stupid and for nerds I don't over

42:00Paige DeSorbo: 15 years did you know that like my nan is really good at Scrabble like she would have these Scrabble games and she would like call me after and be like I won by 50 points like scrub the floor with these bitches like and she was good she's doing the two letter words like she gets like she's not fun to play with because you're like okay well you're playing a different game than i am yeah um so i buy scrabble because i'm bored this summer and i was like des let's play scrabble and he was like no and then genie was around so i was like genie do you want to play scrabble and she's like sure i'm like how fun and cute she kicked my ass like she was like well there was but there was drama well she's a nurse she's a nurse she has a whole other vernacular that you don't even know about you know no i know at one point i swear to god this is supposed to be our like sweet little game at night after a long day decompressing she puts a tile down she goes it's like taking candy from a baby she said it out loud and i'm like what the fuck is going on she's like daniel watch the kids

43:09Hannah Berner: gonna be a long night for hannah it's about to be a blood bath but then there was drama because

43:16Paige DeSorbo: des comes out even though it didn't want to play he was like seeing what was going on and he was she was pulling out the dictionary before she'd go to like look for words and he said that's a no-no so then there was drama because we were like people it's like when this is not relatable but like when you play basketball like no when you play beer pong like people have different rules depending on the state and depending on the college so we didn't discuss before the scrabble what the rules were because i didn't know it's going to get something competitive right right so some people out here say if you have to grab the dictionary and you're wrong with the word that you're looking for it that counts as a turn oh they're cutthroat in the hampshire yeah they're cutthroat and we weren't playing cutthroat so i was letting her go through the dictionary we're having fun next thing you know i'm down by 50 points and then i was like you've tricked me and i at one point i was like this isn't fun anymore so i'm gonna i'm gonna go to

44:16Hannah Berner: sleep sorry kitty's rolling around the bed and like knocking everything over please kitty um That's how I feel about Rummy Cup. Like there's like the 30. I've never played. We have to play.

44:27Paige DeSorbo: I think we need to have a weekly Mahjong. But Mahjong I fear is too long for our attention span. So maybe it's a. Is it Rummy or Rummy Cube? I say Rummy Cup.

44:36Hannah Berner: But other people say Rummy Cube. But I'm like there's no E at the end. Are you saying Rummy or Rummy? I say Rummy. Got it. R-U-M-M-I. Got it. So I went to the track this weekend. And then I did nothing. The rest of the weekend.

44:53Paige DeSorbo: Do you have an opinion on how you should put your significant other's name in their phone? Because I've been getting some backlash because my husband's name is Des Bishop, full government name. No, I do full government names.

45:04Hannah Berner: There might be a day where we don't know them. Okay? And I'm not taking the extra time to go in and change their name in my phone from my sweetie to something else. No.

45:18Paige DeSorbo: My name in his phone is? burn with a heart which I think I put in early on. That's cute.

45:25Hannah Berner: Yeah. I have like random weird superstitions. Of course. Because I'm a freak. And one of mine is if I change your name in my phone from your first and last name to something or I add a heart. Don, relationship's over. In high school if I baked you cupcakes my mom would say it was the kiss of death. it'd be done like the next week something would happen it'd be done wait how would you present the cupcakes to him it had nothing to do with the cupcakes it was just like it seemed to be that like there'd be a time where I'd start liking a boy or a guy in high school it was a boy and I would bake cupcakes and then like I did it in college and then one time even in my 20s I remember I was baking like a cake or cupcakes for someone I was maybe like 22 and I told my mom

46:18Paige DeSorbo: and she goes oh so you'll be broken up by next week and we were so savage Kim is so savage wait so like when he's coming over you're like I made cupcakes sorry I'm still not sure um no like you

46:32Hannah Berner: don't just make one cupcake you make like no yeah yeah yeah you make like 12 like a batch of 12 do you decorate them yeah I decorated them the last time this happened to me I baked a cake Like I was probably like, I don't know, like 24. I was seeing this guy for like, I don't know. We would like randomly hang out, see each other. It was nothing serious. He was really like a situationship for like seven years. Truly is what he was. Honestly.

46:59Paige DeSorbo: That's not for the week.

47:00Hannah Berner: It's not. It's so not for the week. You're so fucking strong. I was so strong through that. I baked him a cake and then I didn't talk to him for three years. is do you think it has to do with your baking skills no i don't think it has to do with my baking at all i think there's something in the universe that when i get to bake they go whoa whoa whoa we've thrown something off we have to get her back on track so i don't i i don't bake for anything because they might wind up dead i don't do it i baked scones once which

47:36Paige DeSorbo: is crazy because i'm like let's pick the hardest thing to bake it's like so hard i feel like no i know but that's because i'm fucking delusional and crazy it's like i was trying to paint a painting for this for my cat cafe um because we wanted to auction it off and i was like i'll paint the painting turns out don't understand the difference between oil acrylic it's way more complicated i

47:56Hannah Berner: knew that someone was getting gonna get fucked up there it got real and then i like tried something

48:01Paige DeSorbo: it wasn't working so i quit i got all frustrated i almost flipped the table and then i ended up just doing Hannah's Cat Cafe in font and I was like let's call it a day but I do think my delusion um is overall a good thing but I do find myself in situations where I'm like we didn't need to do a da Vinci I overshot this one this is a quick one didn't think about this long ago actually my brother who is a phenomenal baker this weekend I requested I requested the state cake of maryland obsessed with you which if you don't know what the state cake of maryland is

48:36Hannah Berner: i didn't know either until a couple nights ago on tiktok it is between eight to twelve layers of vanilla cake with chocolate frosting i sent it to my brother i said i love vanilla cake eight to twelve layers of a vanilla cake with chocolate frosting it was how long did that take him i don't know how long it took him he was baking for days i was like oh do you just bake it and then cut it and he goes no page i had to buy five different pans the man lost his job in the meantime it has to be really thin it was so good wait can he be on like great british bake-off oh my god my brother is one of the best bakers he'd be perfect for one of those shows at least

49:21Paige DeSorbo: like a Food Network show. If you're a producer listening, put Gary on.

49:24Hannah Berner: No, he would also be so funny. He's so good at baking. He is really good at cooking, too. He has, like, random specialties that he's really good at. Like, anything buffalo chicken, I feel like he's really good at. But he's made some of, like, the most insane things for me. Like, sometimes I'll just be like, I'm craving, like, pistachio, but, like, chocolate cake. And he'll be like, okay. and like one night he made me a chocolate lava cake but it was like pistachio butter came out of it no he needs to do one of those shows i'll text bobby flay oh my god imagine um also i want

50:04Paige DeSorbo: to let you know like i'm becoming so page coded and girly what are you doing well des was talking to his brother his brother needs to get a new car and they were like looking at cars and they were like showing the options and i was like why are car colors so fucking boring like we don't have one baby blue right like these are the biggest car companies in the world and all they have is like black silver or like light silver and white and i'm like no one threw in a coral what's your

50:38Hannah Berner: go-to car color in your head like you're like i have to get a car tomorrow what are you getting

50:42Paige DeSorbo: black or white well see i like oh see i like ugly like i want brown which is why i'm hand-coded or like a like a like tannish tan like something off but this thing why don't they have fond colors for cars whatever happened to a pattern like no one has whimsy in the car no one has

51:02Hannah Berner: whimsy no one has whimsy in the car industry it's like it's also you want to know what it's kind of like a little bit elitist because like oh only a lamborghini can be orange oh interesting because

51:13Paige DeSorbo: also i'm like every fall we get new colors for the fall and i'm like we change our nails we change

51:21Hannah Berner: her i'm loving baby blue and brown right now like could i get a pinstripe ranger over

51:27Paige DeSorbo: a hot yeah whatever happened to a little like well you can get them here's one thing my dad Chad is very into cars and Joe is very into cars.

51:38Hannah Berner: So I know a lot about wrapping cars.

51:41Paige DeSorbo: Against my will. Who's the pimp my ride guy? It's giving Exhibit. Bring back Exhibit, who, by the way, loves cats. He's all over my feed with his cat.

51:53Hannah Berner: He's had the same cat for like 20 years.

51:55Paige DeSorbo: I also have, I do need some advice. Okay. So for the US Open, we're going to the US Open. we're gonna be there on the night of the 31st see y 'all there oh my god kitty's so oh i'm obsessed with kitty recently flimsy and cute right now and cuddly um i got asked to do a podcast and it's maria sharapova's podcast at the u.s open like you do it there it's we're doing a live pod people can get tickets on where sunday at a hotel oh okay in

52:31Hannah Berner: the city oh okay okay sorry i don't know why i pictured you like at in the stands do i should

52:42Paige DeSorbo: be cute but this is my question you guys if you don't remember when i went to the chelsea handler show she had this like after party and ended up being like a ton of people she has so many friends and we were sure pova was standing there and i started freaking out and all my friends were like say hi to her and i'm like this isn't how we're supposed to meet this isn't how not like in a crowded, loud room and me being like, like, oh my God, that's not how we're supposed to meet. So now I'm going to meet her. And I just want advice on like, how did you act when you met Victoria Beckham?

53:09Hannah Berner: I actually was just going to... There's two people that I was like, what the fuck am I going to say? One was Victoria Beckham and one was Kourtney Kardashian. And you want to know what? I just went in with what came to my brain in that moment. And it was...

53:25Paige DeSorbo: Which is scary.

53:26Hannah Berner: And it's scary, but you want to know what? It's... Kidding! It's the most genuine. And I think to Courtney, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm a huge fan of you. I've always loved you. Like, you guys are like, I'm obsessed with you guys. Like, there's nothing to say other than like, hello. Yeah. This is crazy for me.

53:45Paige DeSorbo: Also, if they like you, they like you. If they don't, they don't. And you can't control that in this life.

53:50Hannah Berner: I think one of the weirdest things is acting like you're not a fan of.

53:56Paige DeSorbo: No, I would never do that. Someone. that's i like to say that first i don't want to drool on them in the beginning and like be like so like i don't want to scare them where they feel like i literally am gonna wear their skin but i'd like to give credit where credit is due yeah i would just be like oh my god it's such an honor to meet you with with serena williams they were both like the fashion icons of my childhood like maria sharpova's outfits i mean she's six two she looks like a model so it was like easy for her but she was designing with nike the like most cute princess iconic looks amazing torso that's oh i could connect with her over that i'm trying to find connections but i'm just i'm just letting you guys know i'm gonna be so fucking nervous the whole time and everything i i say in my head i'm

54:46Hannah Berner: gonna be like that was stupid so come to the event no it's gonna be fun and cute where's anna

54:54Paige DeSorbo: Kornikova she's living a peaceful life with her husband Enrique Iglesias and like never papped

55:03Hannah Berner: never anything isn't that so funny like certain celebrities that you're like I haven't seen them

55:09Paige DeSorbo: in 10 years it means that they're at peace I think when I was younger I'd always wonder like why would this pop star stop making music or why this actor why aren't they acting and now I'm like oh they made money and they're like I'm good babe this is a job and I want a break

55:28Hannah Berner: wait who's the one rapper that I used to think about that all the time

55:33Paige DeSorbo: Lil Wayne

55:34Hannah Berner: no T-Pain

55:36Paige DeSorbo: for a while I'd be like where the fuck is T-Pain but now this man is ready it's kind of like Anne Hathaway how many movies has Anne Hathaway shot

55:45Hannah Berner: it's actually making me really sad that she's doing so many movies because I know we're not going to see her now for 25 years

55:52Paige DeSorbo: I watched the beginning of Mother Mary last night. Well, I was going to text you because it's about a pop star and her former costume designer stylist who like helped create her career. And she goes back to them to like make a dress for her. And I was like, this is about fashion. Paige is going to love it. But then there's some singing involved. And then I was like, I'm going to think twice before I text Paige about this. And is it a scary movie? It's not scary, but I was like 45 minutes in and I was like, ah, it's not really going anywhere.

56:26Hannah Berner: You know what I did hear recently is that Julie Andrews isn't in the next Princess. They're making another Princess Diaries movie. And she's like declined. She's also like. But this thing, I get it. But I feel like Anne Hathaway making so many movies right now that are premiering and now she's obviously pregnant. She's going to have a baby. I really feel like we're not gonna see her for a really long time and it's like it's making me sad because I'm like no we just got her back and now she's gonna be gone is this her first baby this is her third oh yeah yeah okay can I complain about laundry for a second specifically detergent why are those giant bottles so unnecessarily huge they're awkward to carry they leak everywhere they take up my entire laundry shelf and honestly they're kind of ugly Then I found out some liquid detergents are apparently like 80 % water and I was like what?

57:22Hannah Berner: That honestly explains a lot because I feel like my clothes never smell as fresh as I want them to. So when I found Tide Evo I was like wait this actually fits my life. It's compact, streamlined, and easy to use. There's no plastic bottles, no drips, no sticky caps, and no water added. It's 100 % concentrated which is why it's built differently to be Tide's best clean. If you've got a clear front laundry machine like me, it's actually kind of satisfying to watch. You toss it in, add your clothes, and it starts dissolving right away. Now I use Tide Evo all the time when doing laundry. It's just so much easier than before, especially when I know it's all clean and no fuss.

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59:27Hannah Berner: I really do. But almost every time I'm away, I wake up sore like my body never actually got comfortable the whole night. and there is this specific feeling that hits every single time I get home from a trip where I walk in the door and all I can think about is my own bed like nothing else will do not the pool not the view nothing just my bed and when I finally get there and sink into it I remember exactly why I don't wake up sore at home I went to mattress firm having no idea what I actually needed and there are so many options out there but their sleep experts sat down and asked what was really going on and helped me find something built around that.

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1:00:47Hannah Berner: Then I found out some liquid detergents are apparently like 80 % water, and I was like, what? That honestly explains a lot because I feel like my clothes never smell as fresh as I want them to. So when I found Tide Evo, I was like, wait, this actually fits my life. It's compact, streamlined, and easy to use. There's no plastic bottles, no drips, no sticky caps, and no water added. It's 100 % concentrated, which is why it's built differently to be Tide's best clean. If you've got a clear front laundry machine like me, it's actually kind of satisfying to watch. You toss it in, add your clothes, and it starts dissolving right away.

1:01:25Hannah Berner: Now I use Tide Evo all the time when doing laundry it's just so much easier than before especially when i know it's all clean and no fuss try the new tide evo super concentrated laundry detergent today this is gonna sound so millennial of me but do you know what the fuck chanty beluga is no i've heard of it but i don't i couldn't place it no i actually feel like i'm like okay it's time for me to like get married and have a baby because the things are going right over my head on the internet like it was I saw this video and it was like talking about Chanty Beluga and it was someone being like oh my god it's such like millennial cringe but it's for Gen Z I have no idea what it is it's basically just like a girl who like created like a crazy name and she just like does different skits as this person you know you're getting older when you see something that's trending and you decide don't care i'm not gonna look into it don't want to know don't want to know

1:02:28Paige DeSorbo: that's i wish i felt that way about clavicular but i can't final notes on stuff we're watching i watched furious and i have to apologize to the community i did not know this was about human trafficking and abuse i love i was like don't like the script literally about this is domestic violence yeah this is super super important do i think there's moments that i was like this account on like the plot was kind of frustrating or like weird yes but sometimes these shows they're like you know how they keep you going and then the ending just like isn't well who you think the villain is ultimately you're like well what i loved about this is the ending is it done or are there more episodes coming out no i think there's one more okay so i like love where it's going i hate these these mystery type detectives stuff where then at the end they just like say the most random shit they're like it's the guy we never met from the store and you're like this is what i've been fucking wasting 24 hours on so i really like where it's going i also also why isn't the star girl not like popping off more emmy rossum no the other one who plays the serial killer like oh it's so funny because like i feel like maybe because she's depicted as like crazy like people aren't like no look at the obsession girl no look at the sterling point girl i'm like why isn't the serial killer girl getting the same love yeah that's so true i did start sterling point and um i didn't get through the first episode but i kind of like wasn't i didn't know where it's going i was like where is it going i get it she's on an island you want to know what it's not a show for you i also i don't care about 17 year old drama i know the second she's like i'm 17 which she's 25 i was like uh but i i did like her chemistry with the brother who is an epobaby yeah mark ruffalo mark ruffalo he's the whole i do appreciate a nepo baby who you're like oh they used their genetic talents well here's the thing for nepo

1:04:37Hannah Berner: babies like i don't get it do you know how many people i know just like growing up where it's like oh their dad's a doctor and it's like oh yeah so then like they became a doctor like oh yeah like but like with when it comes like acting or celebrity it's like oh my god are you kidding

1:04:56Paige DeSorbo: it's like okay the problem is that they'll be like you just have to work hard and believe in yourself and you can be a star and people are like okay actual nepo baby yeah like it's how they don't like to admit that like the only reason you got an audition was because your mom is a superstar right which i would say that all day long i'd be like sucks that you don't

1:05:21Hannah Berner: have my mom also but it's not their fault they have their mom it's their fault when they're like

1:05:28Paige DeSorbo: if i worked really hard to get in this or they complain like it was really hard for me because this is my mom and it's like but they don't know anything else like they don't know what life is

1:05:39Hannah Berner: like we're like no one gives a fuck i think matthew mcconaughey said his son auditioned for something and they and he didn't use mcconaughey like the name last name yeah because he wants to

1:05:49Paige DeSorbo: try to like be not known just as his son but like the directors know do you want to know something

1:05:55Hannah Berner: that really pisses me off yeah when you have a leg up in the world and you're like i shan't use it no just fucking use it like it makes me feel like when there's like kids that are like the like the children of like million and billionaires it's like start a charity like literally do

1:06:16Paige DeSorbo: anything but I do think of like the trauma of like and trauma is a strong word to use but like your whole life all people talk about let's say is your mom so like you have trouble finding your own identity because your mom is so famous and I guess they get like anger or hatred and they could turn to drugs and it's just like a whole it's an issue we can never imagine but like I mean my mom was the principal principal of the top public middle school in Brooklyn and I felt like she was a celebrity everyone knew who she was when we walked in any room and i loved it i was like yeah that's and i would love that it's complicated with parents i think that's a good note to end on but in sports for example like i watch like coco golf and i'm like she's fucking amazing her mom was an incredible athlete too right and like it makes just genetics it's in you so i feel

1:07:09Hannah Berner: like if someone's like really creative or really mathematical it makes sense that they're offering would maybe have some of those traits. Like, I don't get why people get so mad at humans for wanting to do a similar thing that their parents did.

1:07:27Paige DeSorbo: And our mental health moment of the week is something I saw online and I agree with, is you will always come back to the joys and passions you had as a child. Whatever you like to do as a kid is what you're meant to do. pushing men into the dirt.

1:07:50Paige DeSorbo: I love that. Thank you for giggling with us. We love you so much. Have an amazing, amazing week. We'll talk to you later. Bye.

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