Giggling about diners, demotions, and shaved heads

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1:51Hannah Berner: accent here to party whenever i come to do the pod because you live on the lower east side i i am put together like a lower east side like outfit i love you love dressing for the part you love being like i'm downtown i'm a whole new bitch i wake up thinking i'm a barbie i'm like what is my profession today what am i what is my vibe what is my outfit you're a lower east side cool girl yeah um i love how you brought sunglasses i walked in and chris was like what's the pants situation? Never seen that before. Is that a scarf? Is that a one piece? He was very intrigued.

2:22Paige DeSorbo: I was very curious. I feel like Chris has learned so, like Chris has been to Giggly Squad University and like you've almost graduated, not yet. Just a couple more. I don't think you ever graduated. It's a multi-level marketing scheme.

2:35Hannah Berner: I've recently met people that know Chris like on their own accord. Oh, I didn't know he had other friends. And speak so highly of him. Really? I didn't know he did things outside of this room. I thought he lived here the whole time. Yeah, I thought he just waited for us.

2:47Paige DeSorbo: With his legs swinging, like excited for us to come in.

2:50Hannah Berner: It's like they're going to come back next Monday.

2:55Paige DeSorbo: Side note, I was trying on sunglasses today because you just brought sunglasses. And I put them on and they were like kind of big. And Grace looks at me and goes, it's giving Kate plus eight. When I tell you? Wait, my eye has been twitching all week. Yeah, do you want to know why? Because you've been socializing all weekend while I was alone in a hotel room. sending me copious copious voice messages and guess what I was sending them because I wanted the tea you're out in New York City running around I'm alone in a hotel room in Buffalo which shout out to Buffalo but I'm clearly bored who told you that no you guys my worst nightmare happened this week I was going through a lot this weekend alone and I'm sending

3:41Hannah Berner: Hannah just called all of us boston but we're actually in buffalo ha ha ha miss you okay i wasn't gonna start with this but here

3:51Paige DeSorbo: we are i was peeing as one does you look so pretty today i love when you give like old money i love when you wear designer you know we haven't been in the studio whenever we're in the studio we want to make out like we love each other and then on zoom i'm like what what do you want what do you want from me um so i'm peeing before my show now the way my shows work is i have an opener Caroline Banowicz who's amazing and she does this song about dick pics as her like finale song okay so once the dick pic song goes I know like okay be ready I haven't gotten a dick pic in I mean years that's why we're at peace even when and then when people show me other their dick pics that are being sent to them

4:35Hannah Berner: that's like more abrasive one time I had this is so bad one time I had a boyfriend and we literally broke up because he couldn't stop sending dick pics to other people.

4:47Paige DeSorbo: I thought you were going to say you. That got so much sadder.

4:51Hannah Berner: I was like, you really have to stop.

4:52Paige DeSorbo: And he's like, but I'm not saying anything. He's like, well, I don't know what you're talking about.

4:56Hannah Berner: He was like a classic, like, you didn't see that. And I'm like, I literally experienced it with my own body. And he was like, no, you didn't. He's like, I've never been on a date with them.

5:04Paige DeSorbo: I don't tell them I like them. He's like, what are you talking about? Share the art of my shaft. I heard guys use 0.5 now. Anyway, so I'm like peeing and there was a photographer there and we start yapping. Normally I'm like alone in my green room. Yeah. Because you're not there. And it's just my opener on stage and I'm like ready. So I'm yapping, yapping, yapping, yapping. Suddenly I hear the crowd start clapping and I go, oh my God, I'm on. But I haven't been like, like, like, I don't know, like ready mentally. so I'm like frantic and I like in these theaters I had to like run down a hallway no one came and got you?

5:42Paige DeSorbo: no not all the theaters are that organized okay it's really a lot there's one thing happening there it's you going on stage what do you mean? because I think we weren't like that far

5:54Hannah Berner: they're only there for you but I also think

5:57Paige DeSorbo: they're like Hannah you have one reason to be here so you should be ready to go on see my eye? the other one we don't know I don't know what's going on Don't look directly at me. So I like sprint down the hallway. It wasn't that long of a hallway. And I get on like perfect timing. And I look at her and I can tell Caroline can't tell. Because to leave your opener without you coming on is like not okay. That's super embarrassing. Where they're like, okay, where is she? Once I got stuck in an elevator. But otherwise, I'm really fucking good at being prepared for it. Because that's the only reason I was there.

6:28Hannah Berner: Right.

6:29Paige DeSorbo: So I get on stage and I was not giving myself excuses. But I was a little bit thrown. I was a little frantic. I was feeling anxious. And I grab the mic and you hear the energy and I just go, what the fuck is up, Boston? And as I'm saying it, I realize, okay, there's two ways to go about this. I could just hope that they didn't hear that. Yep. I could just continue on like nothing happened and gaslight them to think they heard it in their head.

6:53Hannah Berner: They're now in Boston.

6:54Paige DeSorbo: But yeah, we're in Boston. Or I say what we're all thinking, which is I just called all you guys Boston. So obviously I went with the latter and I was like, yeah, I am so sorry. But also Buffalo, by the way, is the most – like they are a tiny town that has their own football team. Like they are the most proud town in all of probably the country. Yeah. So the fact I said hello, Boston, I could have gotten stoned.

7:21Hannah Berner: They live through full-on tundras. Yep. And they don't complain at all. Nope. They're just sweet, nice people. They live in Alaska and they don't care. And they're happy about it. And they're like, we see the sun for 48 hours once a year and we're good.

7:39Paige DeSorbo: I thought upstate was Westchester growing up. Turns out it's not. It's Buffalo.

7:43Hannah Berner: No, it's really not.

7:44Paige DeSorbo: And so in that moment, I like you for the next like five minutes, I'm doing like the beginning of my show and I'm just repeating it in my head. Like, was it as bad as like, yeah, that was really bad. I couldn't believe people were coming to tell me. They're like, oh my God, you've got to hear this. I know.

8:00Hannah Berner: You're like Hannah's so stupid.

8:02Paige DeSorbo: You're front road fashion week and people are like, your friend is so fucking dumb. But the best was when I got off stage, the messages were so funny. They go, Boston loves you. Thank you so much for coming to Boston. We do love Boston. Best show ever. I haven't done a show in Buffalo. You have to. It was incredible. It was like 1 ,700 girls all messaging me, making fun of me. How'd you get there? I had to actually fly to Rochester and then we drove. because I had a show in Rochester the night before. Anyway, meanwhile, I'm struggling. And I'm sending you some stuff. And if I see photos of you, I need a story.

8:40Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. I need to know how we got there, who you saw, whatever. And she's not giving me anything. So I started making up voice notes. I was like, hey, I got to tell you about something.

8:48Hannah Berner: Hannah sent me some of the most incredible voice notes this weekend. And here's the thing. Couldn't tell you what they're about. No, I couldn't either now. But at the time, I was like, oh, my God. Like I saw them come in and I did. Wait, this is the funniest thing. I'm at a shoot all day Friday. I'm with Tresemme. We're doing stuff all day. I get two voice notes from you back to back. Two double two minuters. I'm like, oh my God, let's freaking go. Now, like with the update of the phone, you know how you can click see more and it's like written out. Oh, yeah. So I'm like around people. So I'm not like just going to play your voice.

9:24Paige DeSorbo: Hey, do you want to hear what Hannah is saying?

9:25Hannah Berner: That would be a death sentence. Like, who knows what could be said. No, I'd never work in this town again. So I'm, like, I click it and I'm reading it. And someone comes from over my shoulder and they're like, oh, my God, what is that? And, like, first of all, HIPAA. No, that is such a HIPAA. I'm like, second of all, let a girl get a voice note from her friend and know that it's not appropriate to listen to you right now in this moment. But I couldn't, I had to know what the gist was.

9:54Paige DeSorbo: This is the problem with being friends with a public figure is that she's either locked away in the safest, most private place where she can be like blasting your voice notes or she's surrounded by a full team of 12 people and everyone who's ever worked in Hollywood. So you just have to pray. I don't remember what I said, but it was literally to be like you respond to be like, these are the best voice messages I've ever heard. And I go, OK, I want you to respond.

10:20Hannah Berner: I know, but I didn't have the time. And honestly, I didn't have any good gossip to give you. But what people don't talk enough about with voice notes, like when you're – Like I know when you're about to start laughing about something. So listening to a voice note, like just know when you're recording it, I'm laughing at the same time. Okay? And I think that's important for you to know.

10:47Paige DeSorbo: That like warmed my heart. Yeah. Also, I have a paranoia that I'm going to be really good two minutes into a voice note and then fuck up two and a half minutes in. I'm a performer. I don't like – you're fine with the coughing. I don't like too much. But you are a coffer. You're an avid coffer.

11:02Hannah Berner: Well, you should hear when I send ads to Grace. Sorry, I need a minute actually.

11:09Paige DeSorbo: When you record the ads, not to – the sausage is made. You press record and then you record all the ads. The way through. I have to record it one by one because I'm convinced I'm going to like knock over my recording.

11:21Hannah Berner: No, I'm on there for like 25 minutes. My voice note. I feel like Grace has heard me on the phone with my mom. But I stop and do like my own thing.

11:28Paige DeSorbo: You just therapy. You go, wait, my therapist is on the line.

11:32Hannah Berner: There's been times where I'll go on Instagram for like five minutes and I'll be like, oh shit, I'm doing ads.

11:38Paige DeSorbo: Grace, sorry. God forbid you like just send her two files or more than one file.

11:43Hannah Berner: I don't want her to have to open that much. Okay. You know, I want her to get one email.

11:48Paige DeSorbo: My thing with the voice notes, I'd rather send like 10 one-minute voice notes than one 10-minute one because I think it's easier to consume. But that's just my process.

11:57Hannah Berner: I have a girlfriend who we don't speak often. Like we speak quarterly, honestly. We catch up and then we move about our lives.

12:06Paige DeSorbo: Two, three is when we follow up.

12:08Hannah Berner: A couple days ago, this bitch sent me a 15-minute voice note. I mean, the updates were completely necessary. I literally got an update on her entire summer.

12:20Paige DeSorbo: Wait, that's a standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival. I literally did laundry. I set it down, and I was like, you're getting like, I'm folding. I'm like, what? But doesn't the phone sometimes stop playing it because the phone goes to sleep? Yeah, and I have to like – Was it better than mine?

12:37Hannah Berner: no it was more informational okay i'll say which honestly valid definitely more factual

12:44Paige DeSorbo: it wasn't as opinion based definitely cohesive definitely full sentences were formed um we have so much to talk about shall i begin with oh no you it's coming to you i shall begin yes i shall

13:02Hannah Berner: the floor was yours

13:07Hannah Berner: stupid stuff wait not right now we're not talking about this right now but I watched the Charlie Sheen documentary because I knew you were going to talk about it so at a later time we'll dive into it but I just want you to know going into it I've seen it clock it

13:23Paige DeSorbo: that's going to be very excited this is a voice note from Paige by the way If she coughs, she tells you what she's going to talk about, then forgets what she was going to talk about.

13:35Hannah Berner: A couple weeks ago, I get a DM from Morgan Stewart. Who is Lord our Savior. You know, the best thing about my assistant is she's so Gen Z that, like, I bring up Morgan Stewart at least once a week. I'm referencing her. And every single time I say it, she goes, who? And I go, honestly? No, keep me young. Thank you. I get a DM from Morgan Stewart. And I'm like, my life is made. We started like chit-chatting, whatever. And then she goes, I'm having a dinner during fashion week, but not like a fashion week dinner. And I totally knew what she meant by that. And I was like, of course. For people that don't know, can you explain?

14:13Hannah Berner: Like she was having a fashion week dinner, but she was having a Morgan Stewart chic dinner. She wasn't having like a - Branded in your face. Yeah, like drapes. She didn't have drapes and candles. She's not having fluorescent lighting. She didn't have any fluorescent lighting. She obviously had a photographer. Yes. But like it was very grab your skinny margarita, take a seat, give two pieces of gossip and then move along.

14:43Hannah Berner: So I had never met her before in person. I didn't know that. Yeah, so I didn't like know what to expect. First of all, walk up to the restaurant. So chic. Not a sign in sight. Could have literally been walking into a dentist office. They're like, private room is upstairs. So New York. This French restaurant, it was called, I think it was called Les Vos. I was just like, yeah, Blair Waldorf like goes here. So I walk in. She's the first person I see. We hug. We immediately start talking about glam. So I'm like, no, I'm home. Were you nervous? I was very nervous, but I wasn't nervous enough to take a beta blocker.

15:20Hannah Berner: Okay. Because I was like, no, I manifested this. This is like. This was going to happen. We knew it. Yeah, I knew this. We prepared. She literally just had her friends at dinner. Me, Tink, this girl, Sarah, Arielle Charnas. We're like the only people that I feel like I knew from Instagram. Everyone else, I was like, oh, that's your best friend. Yeah. So it was like a fun, funny dinner. Sounds like a bachelorette party. I had two cocktails, which I never do. That means you were in a good mood. I will say I was the first person to leave. I didn't even have to ask. I was like struck 1015. I was like, I'm literally, I melt at 1030.

15:58Hannah Berner: So I have to scram.

16:00Paige DeSorbo: I live on the upper west side, which is basically Europe. So I have to go now.

16:03Hannah Berner: Here's the other thing. You had to beat the traffic. Dinner was on the, dinner was uptown. And that's how I knew I was like, I'm in the right place at the right time. I'm in the right place at the right time. All the kids are downtown. All the kids are downtown. They're doing their thing. They're walking the runway.

16:20Paige DeSorbo: Being punks.

16:21Hannah Berner: They're being literal punks. Okay. And I'm uptown at a mommy and me. And then I'm going home.

16:28Paige DeSorbo: I was uptown too, but I was in Boston.

16:32Hannah Berner: But she was the best. It was like just a chic, cute dinner. I love that. We all got a belt.

16:38Paige DeSorbo: And it was like amazing. People don't talk about belts enough. No. Belts are never in the conversation. Then one day you wake up and you go, oh no, this outfit needs a belt. And you don't have one. Yep. I hoard belts actually. Speaking of accessories, I have a hot take. Like as someone who's, I don't know if it's because I'm anxious or possibly ADHD or just I get overwhelmed easily. I can't do bracelets. There's too much. Yeah. What's it called? Sensory overload. Agreed. When I wear a bracelet, I'm like, I walk into a room and I'm like, I wear your bracelet. I try talking. I'm like, are you looking at my bracelet?

17:13Hannah Berner: Or the girls that wear the same necklaces every single day. And my thought is, are you showering in them? Yes, you are. And sleeping in them? Yeah, you are.

17:20Paige DeSorbo: Because that would – we are not really jewelry gals. No, like when I got engaged, I was like, cool, I don't wear rings. You guys, I don't wear my wedding ring. Cool, I don't want it. I don't wear my wedding ring because I started getting rashes. I don't even know why. And people would be like, are you not married? Eczema? Yeah. Or like it was like – I think it's because when I wash my hands in so many different states – sorry, I'm traveling a lot. When I'm in Boston versus Buffalo. Wait, are you going to blame like a water issue here? Yeah, the water's different. And I think I also don't dry my hands to the point every time.

17:57And it starts getting red.

17:59Paige DeSorbo: Like I get a rash. So I don't wear my wedding ring. No one needs two rings on their finger. No one needs two rings. That's prison. It's a prison. And then when I wear, if you wear, God forbid I wear a bangle. I'm like I can't focus on this conversation because my bangle's moving.

18:13Hannah Berner: When I see the girls wearing like the hand chains.

18:17Paige DeSorbo: My friend Madison plays tennis in her body chain. I'm like, I don't know how they're doing it. Not to call her out, but it's like girls who wear sweaters that are itchy just for fun. Like, I think bracelets or the girls who have stacked bracelets. No, I can't. I could do that maybe for a look.

18:36Hannah Berner: I can't even. We wear studs. Like, I love stacking jewelry and wearing a bunch of bracelets and wearing a bunch of rings for a look. For 30 minutes. But then when I get home, get it off. Also, when you can't get a bracelet off, nothing more humbling. One of my friends had a bracelet on, I'm not kidding, for like four months. And she was like, well, because I couldn't get it off. If the moment I knew I couldn't get it off, that's the moment I have to take pliers because I'm not going to live in my own prison that I've created. I'd start having a literal panic. I'm like, get it off.

19:06Paige DeSorbo: Also, I am wearing a ring right now that's like huge and I love it, but it's the only thing I'm going to think about this whole pod.

19:10Hannah Berner: I know for a fact that you're cleaning out your apartment right now. And these are all items that you've recently found that you forgot. And you put it all together today. And you were like, wait, cool outfit. Forgot I had it. I know that's what happened. Because never have I once seen you walk in with earrings and a ring. And like also a fit that I haven't seen in a while.

19:32Paige DeSorbo: Now that I'm fully exposed.

19:35Hannah Berner: Now I feel fucking naked. Now that I feel naked on this one.

19:39Paige DeSorbo: I saw Jacqueline. or nail girl after a full summer not seeing her i opened the door and she was like funny seeing you here i said jacqueline do you know we talk about you on the podcast every single week and she was like yeah it's really funny and i was like come in and then i said jacqueline i need natural yeah and then let me say she went arguably too natural because i said jacqueline you can give me like fake long ones and she goes no you just cut it off so i lost privileges with her she goes i didn't Even no Jacqueline could demote you. No, she demoted me. Like she tried with me. Yeah. And is over my shit.

20:14Paige DeSorbo: And she said, I'm keeping your nubs nubby. And this is what you get.

20:18Hannah Berner: Sometimes Jacqueline will give me an option. She'll give me two options, right? Which I love. I feel like she's secretly testing me because I know that she likes one of the options more. And so sometimes I'll say one and she'll look at me and I'll go, the other one should. They're like, wait, Jacqueline, how did you just do that?

20:37Paige DeSorbo: She doesn't say yes. she'll just nod and look back down and I'm like I'm so scared right now but also I didn't I haven't cut cut them but maybe I did once and she hasn't forgiven me but Jacqueline's back in my life good you guys know we hate admin at Giggly Squad and that's why we love Square today's episode's brought to you by Square it's smart streamlined tools that make running your business simple I want to announce that I am doing merch on my stand-up tour and I'm using Square for a lot of the transactions. Let's be honest, I never have cash on me. I will always pick the wrong credit card.

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22:18Hannah Berner: Okay, you guys know I live for just doing the thing, not overthinking it. Like, why do we need to spend so much time playing it safe and staying inside our comfortable little bubbles? Honestly, the absolute best parts of life happen when you just follow your heart and take a little risk. Like, imagine going to Europe, getting a little lost down some gorgeous cobblestone alley, and trying to order an espresso in a language you don't even know. It's fine. That kind of vulnerability is literally how you grow and actually figure out who you are.

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25:57um i also hung out with vampire weekend they're a band chris knows them chris knows them um

26:06Paige DeSorbo: how old is this into the city i'm on jimma don't bounce your mouth down do they have another ballad of some sort i'm not i'm not that one's not clicking favorite ballad um these guys like they're just in a band um and this what is it vampire what weekend they're very like they popped off 10 years ago okay um so i was like how's tour guys and they were like good where'd you meet them at the airport because they there's a girl in their band who's also a comedian who's like a genius and also does violin isabel okay um and And she's... This is the most ADHD conversation I feel like I've ever been a part of.

26:48Hannah Berner: Anyway, I thought you were going to know who Vampire Weekend is, but because you don't... Really? Do you even know me? Does that sound like something I would know what the fuck that is? She goes, Nelly? And I'm like, no. I thought you were talking about Vampire Diaries, and you were going to bring up that the star of Vampire Diaries just broke up with her fiance. Shall we talk about Nina?

27:06Paige DeSorbo: Shall we? She's having so much fun on Instagram. The rumor is that he cheated on her.

27:13Hannah Berner: Yeah. Then she did a TikTok that was like. Like iconic. Kind of basically like. Confirm me at fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. I think they were engaged for like five years. I'm going to be honest. I never saw them together. Yeah. This is. And look, sometimes I like an ugly guy with a really hot girl. I didn't want to say it. Sometimes I'm a huge fan of that. I didn't want to say it, but.

27:34Paige DeSorbo: But they were taking it to the limit. Like that one. This is the thing. there are handsome gingers out there and there are talented gingers out there and there are kind gingers out there yeah um this one in particular i think it's giving she gave him too much confidence and that's what it is snowboarders are need to calm down like as a former skier when i was skiing everyone was so polite excuse me whatever yeah then i'd fucking die.

28:06Hannah Berner: I almost got murdered.

28:07Paige DeSorbo: No, they come, they're all, they literally are like punks. A group of 14 year old snowboarders? No, like they rob you and then they steal your glasses and then you're scared and freezing and then they give you the finger as they go down every time. I don't trust a snowboarder. I don't like them.

28:25Hannah Berner: They literally take my glasses, slap them back at me, give me the finger, ski down and like take all the hot chocolate.

28:34Paige DeSorbo: But I don't know. No, like they get off on scaring people. They're like those kids on Halloween that like throw eggs with Nair in them. Like those are snowboarders. Is that a thing? Oh my God, in the city. Yeah. Oh my God, that's intense. Yeah, so shout out to Nina. We love you. Wow, your list is crazy. My list is crazy. Oh, can we bring back a saying?

29:03Hannah Berner: Yeah. can we please start saying that shit's whack like can we say whack at least i feel like like that's

29:11Paige DeSorbo: so whack so whack i don't know as i said it a lot yeah no i feel like i've said it recently

29:16Hannah Berner: whack like whack was my everything everything was like it's whack it's funny because on tiktok there's a lot of gen z like people making videos of like for millennials like hey here's things we don't say anymore here's things like that like you said that means the same thing here whack is such a great word to describe anything say I feel the same way with swag thank god for Justin Bieber thank TGIF what happened

29:50Hannah Berner: TGIF and not to bring up Topanga she's on Dancing with the Stars

29:54Paige DeSorbo: this year can I make an announcement I think I'm gonna watch Dancing with the Stars this year Really?

30:01Hannah Berner: I've never watched it. I've never watched it either. You're just like feeling – are you feeling like old school reality TV? Did you watch it? Oh, okay. I was like, is that – you're trying to get into like competition show? No, it's more like – first of all, my TikTok is just full of all of them.

30:16Paige DeSorbo: And then I realized they all do like incredible TikToks.

30:18Hannah Berner: Yeah.

30:18Paige DeSorbo: There's a Gen Z that works at Dancing with the Stars because these – no offense, but these guys are dancing, like training intensely. They're not also coming up with like incredible TikTok strategies. Yeah, the social media team for that show is – Killing it.

30:31Hannah Berner: So every day I'm like, I'm. That's the only reason I knew anything that was going on with Brooks and Gleb. Like I didn't watch the show.

30:39Paige DeSorbo: I think I might watch it. Because there's also like more people that I like kind of know. Sometimes I feel like it used to be they just get like people who were on a TV show like 20 years ago. Yeah. Or like an athlete that like broke his ACL and is like doesn't know what to do.

30:55Hannah Berner: I love a like former athlete coming back to do something.

30:58Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. And you're like he has CTE. Find your passion.

31:01Hannah Berner: but he's figuring it out.

31:02Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. So, like, I think I might watch it. Okay. And this is coming from someone. I might watch, it's so crazy, because I might watch The Bachelorette this year. Oh, well, that is another level of time consuming. Oh, because of Taylor. Mm-hmm. Frankie? Paul. Got it. Oh, that's.

31:24Wait.

31:25Hannah Berner: Okay, recently on TikTok. Both Mormon. Both Mormon. I've been getting a lot of like nostalgia videos. I want to bring back shopping from a catalog. Like I like obviously it's being taken over by shopping online. But like do you remember being young and your mom getting like the Victoria's Secret catalog and going through and like circling like different things. And then she'd physically call and order what she wanted.

31:56Paige DeSorbo: She was like number eight, seven, four, three, two. Like I would fuck that up.

32:00Hannah Berner: Like the women in STEM, just thinking about there was like a group of women ready to receive these phone calls from a group of women who are at home being like, okay, number eight.

32:13Paige DeSorbo: This was an underground economy that people didn't know of. Yeah. But what's crazy about those magazines is it was used two ways. It was girls like us being like, mom, I really want this like crop top. Yeah. And then just like men jerking off to it.

32:28Hannah Berner: oh i didn't even think of that they didn't have like that's disgusting men didn't have porn back then they had to like find magazines and or they had yeah they had to like draw it

32:43Paige DeSorbo: men would draw boobs and jerk off to it from memory

32:50Hannah Berner: why i guess that never crossed my mind that like a 13 year old boy back then like getting pumped for their mom to get like the summer victoria's secret catalog i was like going to look at it

33:03Paige DeSorbo: i'm like why is it crispy why are the pages crispy daniel wait that's so vile so vile i also had a friend who got in trouble because he was printing out like a photo of boobs or a photo of a woman and his mom caught him like mid-print. Like, what are you doing with this?

33:19Hannah Berner: You got in like big trouble. One time I was at my friend's house in like seventh grade and we were like playing in her basement and we found all of her dad's like dirty magazines. And I was just like, wait, what? Also, this is like - Wow, that made my eye twitch.

33:33Paige DeSorbo: This is TMI, but my brother was like 13 or 14 and he went to camp and my parents got a call and they were freaking out. They were like, we have to tell you something. in his cabin one of the boys brought disturbing material that he may or may not have seen and my parents were like what did he see like they really got scared and they were like it was a photo of girls in bikinis and my dad was like okay can you bring it back but I guess like they had to warn them

34:05Hannah Berner: let me see what let me see what he saw

34:09Paige DeSorbo: also wasn't it like he saw it they're like he may or may not have seen a kid brought that in But anyway, that was like what men were busy doing instead of learning about consent. Do you think purple lettuce thinks it's better than other lettuces? Lettuce eye.

34:24Hannah Berner: Yes. Because when I'm eating purple lettuce or a colored carrot.

34:31Paige DeSorbo: You stop and you go, you're gorgeous.

34:34Hannah Berner: If I have a tricolored carrot on my plate. Your tax bracket has changed. My tax bracket has changed. I know more languages than you do. Like, yeah.

34:45Paige DeSorbo: I feel like the purple lettuce, like, knows. Like, and it's always, like, curly in a way where it's just, like, like, you could put it on a dress. And it always comes out of nowhere. Like, you're, like, gnawing on your rabbit food. And then you're like, who is she? Are you just talking about, like, cabbage? I don't know enough about the lettuce species to be able to. What is the purple? I don't. Look, I'm starting this new thing. I tried to eat salads last week. It didn't work.

35:09Hannah Berner: Wait, I texted Grace, like, recently. and she was like, sorry, Hannah's not responding because she's in a Pilates class. And I was just like, what?

35:19Paige DeSorbo: I'm trying to be healthy before I go on tour. I'm realizing that. Before I go on tour.

35:24Hannah Berner: Oh, are you sticking to the rule on tour where there's no eating after at 11 p.m.? No. Oh, you haven't stuck to it. Funny, because last year we had to stick to it. Yep, because, well, last year you tried to put me in a caloric deficit and I was famished. This year, you're willy-nilly just ordering whatever. I don't know what town you're even in. You're so stuffed. I did get a really good Mexican bowl on Saturday. The other day, Hannah sent me. I was eating my feelings after I embarrassed myself in front of all the girls above low. Hannah sent me and Grace in our group chat a picture of her being out to brunch by herself.

36:07Hannah Berner: Honestly, it was such a mom text. Like, you know, like when your mom's somewhere with your dad, like we just like we're at brunch and it's just like the table. It's like, OK, but is dad there?

36:18Paige DeSorbo: You're so right. You're so valid. I could have taken a cuter photo, but I was texting you guys and then just pulled a photo that I took on my own randomly. It wasn't aesthetic and it wasn't cool.

36:28Hannah Berner: But just from the photo, I could tell that whatever town you were in, you found the most amazing diner. A couple key things I could tell from said amazing diner. The wooden table. Like a good wooden table, they mean business. When the condiments are already on the table because they know you're going to need them. You're about to go in. So when you have ketchup, salt, pepper, they even have their napkins in there.

36:58Paige DeSorbo: Spicy stuff. Also, when you order, you don't order anything. You just say, fuck me up, fam. also do you know how you know it's going to be fucking good when the utensils are wrapped in a paper napkin like they're not just sitting on a napkin don't give me a cloth not a cloth but also i don't want just a napkin sitting i want it like they had they're going so fast that they're

37:20Hannah Berner: have you ever seen someone wrap those up and then put the thing no is it like people doing domino's boxes no it's like they can go so fast also this place it was in san francisco they also had juices which like also I want a plastic water cup and I want it to be so abnormally big like there's no

37:37Paige DeSorbo: way I could finish it and discolored discolored cloudy yeah and yeah I got pancakes for the table and by the table I meant my table yeah um oh my god my eyes like really twitching there's like pop culture stuff going on that I want to bring up okay um Hilary Duff getting back in the

37:58Hannah Berner: studio well you want i don't want to i don't want to bring up an old rivalry but i would say we are watching lindsey live her best life look phenomenal she just did freaky friday they had they had like redone mean girls she went to the premiere she's just like she's on every cover she looks phenomenal people are like she has she has verizon ads she lives her life in Dubai she's a mom no one was bringing up Hilary Duff and I think maybe she's gonna have a resurgence because of that not to pit women against women but I think

38:37Paige DeSorbo: maybe there was some inspiration certainly not pitting women against women although I just did

38:44Hannah Berner: but I do find it ironic that like they did have like a beef back then and now like they're both

38:50Paige DeSorbo: I'm so sad for that yeah the millennials are excited Grace do you like remember Hilary Duff at all yes what do you remember like Cadet Kelly Cadet Kelly okay yeah like Lizzie McGuire Lizzie McGuire I feel like I loved Cadet Kelly loved but I like loved Compossible more so you I also did like all the Disney double team movies whenever there was like a sport and the girl came in i was like see i loved like lindsey

39:23Hannah Berner: lohan clue like gotta get a clue like she was in she was wearing cool outfits yeah yeah okay

39:29Paige DeSorbo: anywho another pop culture topic nev from um the catfishing show is now is it neve neve yeah It's Neve. Is it Neve?

39:47Hannah Berner: I think he goes by both. Because Neve.

39:50Paige DeSorbo: I think he's not picky. Neve is also an Irish name spelled N-A-I-M-G-P-H or something.

39:57Hannah Berner: I want to say it's Neve, but who am I?

40:01Paige DeSorbo: Neve. Buffalo. Boston. He is in real estate now. He just announced. Very casually on a city bike. He's like, if anyone needs help with their homes, I'm selling real estate. Wait, what happened to Catfish? I think it's done. It's done? Yeah. But maybe he always had a passion for homes. Like, maybe the whole time he didn't really care about... You don't always say about real estate. No, I'm going through a good time.

40:26Hannah Berner: Week 7 says, I'll be a real estate agent today. That's for ex-NFL players who are one bad day away from really losing it. They got to buy a building or something.

40:38Paige DeSorbo: For people who are like people people, like talking to people and they have like connections through the industry, it could help. I'm actually not going to knock it because.

40:49Hannah Berner: We support men in the arts. No, I support having like a normal job. He spent so much of his life being a TV host and like being in the public. Do you know how he got famous? He was catfished. He got catfished and did a documentary. Yeah, so I feel like the last 20 years, he probably wants something that's like a little more structured maybe. Like he's not really traveling that much. It's like chill. People know him. People would like walk in and see a familiar face and probably like want him to be his real estate agent just because of that.

41:24Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. Honestly, I take my everything. Actually, if anyone needs an apartment. You know what? I'm moving. You'd be such. I'm moving. There's another life where you live in Kansas, and you are the it girl of real estate. Every single bench in that town is you. And you're wearing a power suit. The best outfit. Your glam is incredible. No one's ever seen you without full glam. They call me Penthouse Paige. And there's no penthouses in Kansas. That's really sexual, actually.

41:55Hannah Berner: That actually sounds like my OnlyFans page. I take that back. Parkway Paige. Nope, not still that good.

42:01Paige DeSorbo: And you don't actually make eye contact with any of your clients.

42:04Hannah Berner: I've thought about real estate. And you know what knocks me down every time? I'm not doing math in my adult age. I've moved on. I'm past that. Do you have to do math? You have to know square footage. You have to know there is numbers. And I'm like, actually, no.

42:22Paige DeSorbo: Did you watch Selling Sunset?

42:25Hannah Berner: Not really. I don't. Like if I'm watching a real estate show, it's because I genuinely want to see the houses in the real estate. Like I do find that interesting. I don't care about like the real estate agent drama.

42:38Paige DeSorbo: It was a lot of like them getting out of the Yukon SUV slowly so they could see. It's a lot of arrivals and departs. It's a lot of arrivals and leaving.

42:48Hannah Berner: There's nothing Netflix reality shows love more than arrivals.

42:53Paige DeSorbo: And a non-copyrighted music background.

42:56Hannah Berner: And a strut.

42:57Paige DeSorbo: She's that close. She's a sexy one. Yeah, she's sexy. No, Netflix will get hard for a slow strut. It really does. Or it's not slow, but they go slow-mo. Yeah.

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47:16Hannah Berner: How's your fantasy football team doing?

47:19Paige DeSorbo: Thank you for bringing that up. We're not done with this weekend of playing, but I played Taylor Strecker's wife, who's pregnant. And I beat that bitch. I said, oh, you're her, Mona? You beat the growing baby? Look, come to play. And losers lose. What are we to say? Taylor Donahue, like, look, come for the beast. You're going to get eaten. That's what they say. Like, big dog got to eat.

47:49Hannah Berner: She's like, I'm literally just trying to, like.

47:51Paige DeSorbo: She's also like, I don't even want to play in this league.

47:53Hannah Berner: I'm texting her. She's like, I thought it was something fun. I'm literally texting her, like, the mom from the documentary.

47:58Paige DeSorbo: I'm like, you stupid bitch. Why would you pick that running back? Are you fucking stupid and dumb and ugly?

48:04Hannah Berner: Wow, are you going to know how to parent your kid and you can't even parent this team? who's putting you in charge of anything. Wait, I love Taylor and we're being set.

48:13Paige DeSorbo: We love the Taylors. I want them to adopt me. The Taylors are like, Taylor Shucker is why I got into podcasting. So anyway, and Taylor, Donna, you edited Burning in Hell for like three years. No way. People don't know that. She likes to be behind the scenes, but I just put her on blast on my podcast.

48:30Hannah Berner: So is your team overall doing well?

48:32Paige DeSorbo: You know who's also in my league? Andrew Collin.

48:35Hannah Berner: who's last year I said like I was gonna do this league with you I think just is that my fault I forgot I forgot no I thought of it like when everyone was like oh I have my fantasy draft next week and I had a moment where I was like should I do it with Hannah it takes zero effort well then

48:52Paige DeSorbo: I remembered that like I really don't care yeah but you'd be so surprised it's like the girls who go on the bachelor who were like this guy is ugly I don't care and then you see like eight girls get worked up about him and suddenly you're like if he doesn't want to marry me I'll like freak out

49:07Hannah Berner: it would go one of two ways for me I'd either be like so into it and competitive and be like refreshing all the time or like a tamagotchi and I'd forget I had it yeah I'd be like and my

49:18Paige DeSorbo: tamagotchi done the thing is you get like notifications okay so it's basically me just feeding my um high for temporary happiness so like if a guy gets a touchdown it's like you just got 12 points and every week it's it's all luck what do you win at the end some money but it's not about the money it's about the love of the game and it's about then yeah i'm probably not gonna no no no but like when you when i like andrew collin had a better draft than me and he was all like that's how he talks yeah and i'm like i'm ready to play him you are andrew i'm coming you were

49:54Hannah Berner: You were really close to winning last year, right? I was close to winning. Yeah, I remember that.

49:58Paige DeSorbo: But thanks for bringing that up. Because guess what close to winning is? It means you're a fucking loser. But it's really like yelling at guys for spraining an ankle. Like if a guy sprains an ankle, he ruins your score. And I'm like, look where you're walking, bro. Yeah, I get that. Speaking of. Nope. The Chiefs lost their first two games, which is kind of crazy.

50:23Hannah Berner: Wait, did you see Taylor Swift had to walk in with like – she like walked into the game –

50:27Paige DeSorbo: Behind the thing.

50:29Hannah Berner: Like bulletproof something. Like walked behind something.

50:32Paige DeSorbo: Oh.

50:32Hannah Berner: I don't know. Very scary.

50:34Paige DeSorbo: Very scary. Did – no one was able to see her in the stadium sitting? I don't think so. Yeah. Can I say something controversial? Yeah. There's a girl on TikTok – because I'm back on TikTok – who shaved her head. Okay. But didn't like ask her husband for permission. Okay. And then he saw it and said, I'm not attracted to you. You have to wear wigs around me. And the internet is a gasp. And like, I'm going to be honest, it's giving G.I. Jane chic. Like when a girl shaves her head, it's not even about like whether you look good or bad. It's like the confidence you exude. It's clearly a look.

51:14Hannah Berner: Also, maybe ask your wife if everything's okay. Rather than just hitting her with like, don't speak to me. No, he's literally like, don't speak to me. I'm not attracted to you. And marriage is about attraction. And it's like this. I bring up the word bangs and you're immediately like, and is everything OK at home? Yes.

51:30Paige DeSorbo: Yes. I mean, so everyone's mad being like, fuck this guy. But yeah, I think the first sign was not that he isn't talking to her. I think it's that she thought about shaving her head. It's not that shaving her head is a bad thing. But when you want to make a drastic change to your hair normally means you want a drastic change in your life. Yeah, like something's going on. I think she hates him. He just proved.

51:49Hannah Berner: He proved that they don't like each other.

51:53Paige DeSorbo: If you are staying with someone, look, I've had so many boyfriends that walk in with the dumbest haircut where I look at them and I'm like, the fact that I'm associated with you pains me right now. But then you take a breath and you go, it'll grow out. We're good.

52:08Hannah Berner: I think there's a lot of times on TikTok where girls will post something about their relationship or their boyfriend will literally be in the back of the TikTok, but he's not smiling ear to ear. People are like, he hates you. And it's like, he probably doesn't. He's like doing it. But then there are times where it's so apparent where it's like, you've got to get out of that relationship. My thing where I always, I feel like notice it is, and only because I had a boyfriend once who like was obsessed with talking about this. And I was like, you have like mental issues. If you want to shove cake in your wife's face, I think that you are one of.

52:46Hannah Berner: You hate women.

52:46Paige DeSorbo: You hate women.

52:47Hannah Berner: Yeah, you are on a misogynistic level that you actually don't even realize. Are you talking like wedding day? Yes. Like, I had a boyfriend who would actively, I'm not kidding, argue with me that if I didn't let him smush cake in my face on the wedding day that, like, I wasn't fun.

53:04Paige DeSorbo: But that's not even a thing. I was like. But that's not in the Bible. But, like, why would you ever want to take your.

53:11Hannah Berner: No, I've never said anything that you need to. You're supposed to feed it to each other. Leave the cake out of it. why would you ever want to take your hand and smush it into my face like that on an aggressive level no also you're ruining the glam also that the day i have glam we're only here so that i can get the

53:30Paige DeSorbo: shot i want my husband to barely kiss my lips because he knows that he doesn't want to mess it up like give me an air kiss give me an air kiss wait the smashy of the face that's not funny

53:41Hannah Berner: and so that's something that i always had like such a visceral reaction to like whenever i see that on TikTok where like they put cake in each other's mouths I'm like no I don't like it no not

53:51Paige DeSorbo: well if there's one thing if like the two of them are like we're so we're quirky yeah we're doing it

53:55Hannah Berner: at the same time open your mouth like that guys that are like smushing it and she's backing up

54:00Paige DeSorbo: do you know what it feels like it feels like they're doing it for their boys which is exactly

54:05Hannah Berner: what it is we've waited long enough we have to bring up Charlie Sheen no I've I've been trying to watch it for the past three nights because I kept falling asleep.

54:15Paige DeSorbo: How did you fall asleep during that? I know. I was getting jolted. I literally clutched my pearls. And I've seen a lot in this life. I was aghast.

54:26Hannah Berner: I was going, oh. No, there were so many things that I was just, if you haven't watched it, it's phenomenal. First thing I want to point out, the editing of it. Spectacular. Spectacular. The cinematography.

54:40Paige DeSorbo: Spectacular.

54:40Hannah Berner: I liked how it felt like you were like on a. If you put anyone in a diner chatting, I'm into it. That's why. That's what it is.

54:48Paige DeSorbo: If you put people in diners, suddenly they lose all privacy. Yeah. And they're just like, let me lay it out. That was my biggest note about it is this man did not have to say. You couldn't water some of that info out of it. He did not have to say. Like, he could have said 10 % of what he said, and I would have been like, that's a great documentary about Charlie Sheen. Yeah. At one point, you could see they were like, hey, we're done, Charlie. And he's like, one more thing. And I'm going to give you guys an example. This isn't giving anything away. He tells a story about being really high on set, that his eyes were really heavy.

55:21Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. And that finally the director, like, noticed enough to pull him aside and was like, you look like you're falling asleep during your scenes. So he, so I think he's going to say, oh, I'm going to do a snort some cocaine. Yeah. As one would do. So, as Charlie Sheen would do. He goes, I go get some ice, shove it up my butthole. Yeah. And he says this deadpan. and goes back. That was the best thing.

55:43Hannah Berner: He was telling the craziest stories, but he was telling it to you as if he was like, I just went down to the deli, got us a couple sodas, and they're in the kitchen. Do you want one? Like, it's how he was like, I took an ice cube, shoved it up my asshole, won an Oscar. As you do. Yes.

55:58Paige DeSorbo: And then, sorry, I didn't mean to squeal, but I'm feeling emojis. No, Sean Penn, who, by the way, I've never even seen him give an interview before, shows up with his story. Someone's going on there. Either he had something on him, he lost a bet. Sean Penn, like Oscar winning actor, is just like, can I say one of his quotes? He goes, you know, most guys, when they do cocaine, their dicks get weak. Imagine doing cocaine and your dick gets stronger. That's Charlie Sheen. The way I just said what?

56:34Hannah Berner: The homoeroticness of this documentary was so phenomenal. I took away like a couple top tier things. One, Charlie Sheen has a phenomenal family. Sounds like his dad and his brothers. Great humans. Two, where's the mom? Why didn't they bring up the mom? Didn't even. Was there a mom? Well, that's what happens when the mom is not.

57:02Paige DeSorbo: Where is she? Where is she? Kidnapped. What is she doing? In hiding. Witness protection. I literally Googled Charlie Sheen's mom. And she exists. but not one part of the documentary. Maybe she's just so private.

57:15Hannah Berner: That's crazy when your whole family is in the public eye. I wanted the dad to be on more and I wanted the brother to be on more and I wanted his kids on more.

57:24Paige DeSorbo: Okay, you sound like a producer. Calm down. She's like, I want his first child. I want his HIV test.

57:32Hannah Berner: Denise still loves him. Because, and you want to know what? I love Denise. I do not fault her for a single second because when she tells the story of them meeting and hanging out, yeah, he was sober. He was a normal person.

57:46Paige DeSorbo: And she probably still loves that version. I don't remember fully from watching Beverly Hills, but she drops the F-bomb every three seconds in the best way. Yeah.

57:59Hannah Berner: I'm a big Denise Richards fan.

58:01Paige DeSorbo: They did her so wrong on that show, by the way. they should have treated her with care and respect so that she had a long career on that show. Well you want to know what?

58:11Hannah Berner: They were all jealous of her because she was a genuinely famous person. And the most beautiful woman to ever live. And then she was a sex symbol and then was coming on the show and they all wanted to be like worried about it. And that's why she should have been

58:23Paige DeSorbo: protected to not make her look crazy when she was getting attacked. But the thing with the dad and the brothers And she was remarried to like a freak psycho.

58:33Hannah Berner: Is she still with him? No, they're getting a divorce. Thank God. Oh, yeah. He was like.

58:37Paige DeSorbo: He was like a weird. Very strange. Very strange bird. He was just like big jawline. That was just a jawline. Yeah. Strange man. Yeah, strange man. So Charlie Sheen goes, my brother and my dad did not want to be in the documentary. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't want you to say that. Yeah. If they didn't want to be associated with it. But I totally get that. They've probably been through so much. So much. I mean, it's just been his whole life. But it is a case of nepotism for sure. However, he's kind of a genius.

59:07Hannah Berner: Well, I was going to say, my other big takeaway is how many chances do men get? How many? God damn. I mean, this man ruined his life more times than he was successful. And every time the general public and TV, he was in rehab being like having his agent being like, you can do any movie you want. they'll have you like if that was a woman or any other person the crazy story which i was surprised

59:36Paige DeSorbo: he said was about him and nicholas cage which by the way i didn't know nicholas cage was like

59:41Hannah Berner: the biggest party boy do you think nicholas cage is somewhere being like oh

59:47Paige DeSorbo: send me a text first nicholas cage just did not agree to be in that he literally the stories he told about Nicolas Cage um it was like it made me this is sick but it made me like Nicolas Cage more well you know I'm like oh yeah his brain is burnt oh I didn't realize you were that much of like a freak so they go on an airplane Nicolas Cage takes the mic and like tells them like they're going down they're going down which by the way where's the bit where's the bit in that so everyone freaks out when they land there's cops yeah and Charlie goes well good thing they were a fan yeah they were just like don't do that again imagine if a female celebrity did that

1:00:27Hannah Berner: no she'd be imagine if anyone did that like if any other person did that like no it's crazy and then when he got to rehab how um they let him leave nicholas cage text him and says hey there's

1:00:42Paige DeSorbo: a bikini judging contest in palm springs and he goes so i had to go to that he was like hold on Let me get out of this rehab thing. And Nicholas Cage is like, sick. He told the lady, if I'm not back by 8 a.m., I'll give you a million dollars. And he got back by 7.40.

1:00:57Hannah Berner: I just think it's a great documentary. And the last thing that I took away from it, push a man and he'll turn gay. They all have the capacity to go to the other side, and I know that.

1:01:12Paige DeSorbo: The way he described it was actually so iconic. He goes, you ever just eat from the same menu every day? And then one day you're like, let's flip it to the other side. And the guy goes, do you regret it? And he goes, no, I wanted to taste the menu from the other side. But he didn't like say he was.

1:01:29Hannah Berner: But he basically said that happened from because of because he was getting off of crack. And so that like felt good for whatever reason. And that's the first time it ever happened. So he probably did so many drugs. His whole brain was like rewired.

1:01:45Paige DeSorbo: Mm-hmm.

1:01:47Hannah Berner: And I know some that don't need cracks.

1:01:51Paige DeSorbo: But it's also funny because he wasn't like, oh, I had to suck a guy's dick to, like, get the water for the Fyre Festival. Like, there was no threatening involved. He was like, I just wanted to do it. Which, by the way, the way he said it, though, was so eloquent. He had a je ne sais quoi.

1:02:08Hannah Berner: I was like, yeah.

1:02:10Paige DeSorbo: I think he's bi and, like, more men should be able to be bi.

1:02:14Hannah Berner: I mean, I'm part of the problem. I'm obsessed with him now. Like, I will give him another chance. I think he should get back to acting. Here's actually, no, he actually shouldn't get back to acting. Here's one thing that no one said, like, the entire time. I don't think his problem really was, I mean, he obviously had a lot of problems.

1:02:35Paige DeSorbo: They never got to the root of it.

1:02:36Hannah Berner: He couldn't be famous. It was the fame. It wasn't, like, the working. It wasn't the movies. It wasn't like he had to get up early and memorize these lines. He could obviously do that so easily. It was genuinely the fame. He probably had so many people watching everything he did, talking about everything he did, wanted to see, like, and it got too much and no one.

1:02:56Paige DeSorbo: But I also think people always say, like, okay, if you have a problem with alcohol, there are all ways of coping with the bigger problems. But, like, they never, they kind of made, like, his childhood seem, like, pretty good. I mean.

1:03:06Hannah Berner: Yeah, his childhood seemed fine.

1:03:07Paige DeSorbo: His dad was an addict, too, and was going through stuff. But yeah, the way his family stood by him to this day. To this day. They sound great. Even though he is a good example of like you can fuck up so many times. And as a man, Hollywood will take you back. Yeah. But in terms of your relationships, like you can – Rebuild. You can try to rebuild. Yeah. And he, even though he wasn't there for his daughter, is now like taking that time. No, it was a really good documentary. I have to say one thing about that made me reflect on society a little

1:03:46Hannah Berner: I love when we get serious Hannah Bader never is serious on the bottom yeah we are

1:03:53Paige DeSorbo: who would ask us to be serious because the second I am people are like I'm here for laughter make me laugh clown I will so he's like on crazy testosterone He's addicted to like every drug. Yeah. And he goes on his like hashtag winning. Which I like forgot about that. I remember it pretty clearly because everyone, he's going on. We were in like college. We were young. But he's doing all these like crazy interviews saying like the craziest thing. Because he's like so crazy on testosterone. He's like, I got tiger blood. Yeah. And the way people responded was like, this guy.

1:04:30Hannah Berner: Put him on tour.

1:04:31Paige DeSorbo: Is awesome. People were like, he's saying all the things. said we all want to say put him in theaters give him a marquee so when you see a very loud crazy man it doesn't always mean he's right no it is crazy right i wish they did dive into like the

1:04:49Hannah Berner: team that was around him at that time like signing him up to sell tickets to shows and like

1:04:55Paige DeSorbo: like 60 days in a row that's when he started doing anal

1:05:05you know what now i got it you need somebody to take that job

1:05:09Paige DeSorbo: and then we were in denver and i took a beta block card i just shipped it up my bar and i went on stage

1:05:19Paige DeSorbo: the gigglers they become desensitized they have to go oh god i do have to say i did have a woman stop me at the airport and said hi i have um a 21 year old daughter and i i love what you guys do to help to help her have be confident in herself so don't listen to that part now i'm like aware 21 year olds are listening because look they keep us young yeah oh there is a good show out called revenge love con revenge on Netflix. Okay. Which is from the girl who was swindled by the Tinder swindler. Okay. Who's made her whole purpose in life to help find other men who are conning women. Okay. So it's kind of like

1:06:02Hannah Berner: Like she's like almost like a private investigator?

1:06:05Paige DeSorbo: Well she gets this private investigator and what I'm obsessed with is it's a woman. So this woman goes I'm like a dog with a bone. I will stop at nothing. I want to hire a private investigator so badly.

1:06:17Hannah Berner: You want to have But I'm like I don't know what I want I'm going to look into.

1:06:20Paige DeSorbo: You're like, but I need to find something else. No, I want to be like, just look into it. I just feel like something needs to be undercovered. Yes. You want to be sitting in a van with shades on.

1:06:30Hannah Berner: No, I want to be walking down the street and my private investigator call and be like, I got something. And be like, I'll be right over. Why do I want that so badly?

1:06:38Paige DeSorbo: And you want her to print out photos and put it in an envelope and hand it to you. And you go, thank you, thought so. I want to be like, thank you, I'm sending it to my lawyer.

1:06:46Hannah Berner: See you in court. See you in court. And then like my expert witness is just this gorgeous private investigator.

1:06:53Paige DeSorbo: Next time you tell me that you can't record in the studio because you have a UTI, I'm going to get my private investigator on you and be like, she's actually, she's at home in Albany and her mom's feeding her lasagna. Do you know lasagna soup is a thing for fall?

1:07:08Hannah Berner: I have seen it. I've never had it though.

1:07:10Paige DeSorbo: It's kind of giving just like soggy lasagna.

1:07:13Hannah Berner: I'm not going to lie. I had the best lasagna I've ever had in Tuscany the other weekend. Do you want to know why it was so much better? Because it's in Tuscany. But they like burnt it a little. Yes, you need crisp. Like it was crispy. You need crisp. Like it actually tasted like second day lasagna, which I like.

1:07:29Paige DeSorbo: Also, I want the bottom too. I want the cheese to be. Yeah, the whole thing was crispy.

1:07:32Hannah Berner: And I was like, you guys crush it here? I go, big fan of your work. Like, no, they were right about you guys. Like you're fucking crushing.

1:07:40Paige DeSorbo: You look, you go, how's your Italian food doing good?

1:07:43Hannah Berner: All I think about any time I go to a different country is, do you guys ever crave sushi? do the Italians ever think like you know what all I want is some fucking hibachi is there no sushi there I mean I don't know probably not a lot I'm sure there was like one or two but like you you're never in Italy and you see like tacos

1:08:10Hannah Berner: and I'm like wait I want them to experience it more but you know what I feel like because the

1:08:15Paige DeSorbo: Italian so good they're like why would we have like I know but I'm like don't you get sick of it don't they get sick of it no because that's what they know that's who they are like imagine if you never tried Diet Coke you wouldn't crave it or normal Coke you wouldn't even know no it's like Charlie Sheen with heroin yeah how about it was a girl that got him into it that I didn't see coming a girlfriend yeah which i don't like to blame the woman the woman and i would say like

1:08:52Hannah Berner: he knew what he was getting into i've never been offered heroin i've never been offered cocaine

1:08:59Paige DeSorbo: you're a loser no i've had multiple conversations where i'm like why don't they like me and they're like you don't do cocaine and i was like how can they tell people can tell they could smell it People just know. They just know. No, I've never been offered. I mean, look, I know people who know people. Yeah. Who know a guy. Yeah, for sure. So watch out. Do you think Charlie Sheen is going to have like a Pam Anderson revival of his career?

1:09:27Hannah Berner: I don't know. I think this was more like I have to make amends. It's been so many years now. Let me tell you what happened back then. It's taken me this long to kind of get over it. Are you staring at my nails?

1:09:37Paige DeSorbo: Well, no, you were just like your long fingers were like in my face. So I know where else to look. I was saying, or do you think he just needed money?

1:09:46Hannah Berner: Because I don't. Probably a little bit of both. Yeah. But also, here's what I'm thinking. He did have Martin Sheena as his dad. I'm sure he had a lot of money set up that he couldn't touch at all. Like, I don't know if he went through all of it.

1:10:00Paige DeSorbo: I didn't realize he was the number one. They didn't have brand deals back then. Right. But he was the highest paid TV actor ever. Well, he said he ran out of his money.

1:10:09Hannah Berner: Oh, he did? Yeah.

1:10:11Paige DeSorbo: He's making$2 million an episode. I know. I know. But –

1:10:16Hannah Berner: No, the Charlie Sheen lore, I'm just, like, obsessed with that.

1:10:18Paige DeSorbo: Especially if he was, like, overwhelmed by all the fame and stuff and things started to go well, I wouldn't be like, you know what I should do? Do a Netflix documentary right now. Anyway, it's a really good documentary. It's a really good documentary. You guys got to watch it. Thank you for giggling with us. I am in Norfolk – Norfolk? Virginia. Norfolk, Virginia this weekend and I have San Diego a second show added and Vegas and Phoenix love you guys thank you for giggling talk later bye

1:11:04Thank you.

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