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25 Nov 2025 · 1h 10m

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Giggling about fancy restaurants, raccoons, and cyber security

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In this episode of Giggly Squad, hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo delve into a variety of topics, including Hannah's recent fashion controversy, amusing personal anecdotes, and thoughts on pop culture, particularly around dating and social media. Their dynamic interspersed with humor and candid discussions provides listeners with an entertaining blend of lightheartedness and relatable experiences.

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0:29What's up, Gigglers? Some drama. I had a good run. I had a really good run with my fashion choices. People started to say that I was a visionary. You're not afraid to be yourself. I'm afraid to be myself. She takes a risk. She's unique. A good risk take. She takes risks, but we love her for that. Whatever. She's not like everyone else. She does her own thing. I saw a lot of that. And I wore a dress at the Teen Vogue party. No, I'm just kidding. It was Elle Women in Hollywood, a party. and I posted it. I think Teen Vogue went out. No, I think Seventeen went out. Anyway, one of them. One of them.

1:06Print is dead, except for how to giggle. Which you can get for any way you buy books. Which I have a story about. You guys, we have so many stories today. But, yeah, I wore this dress, and the gigglers were, the nation was divided. Um. Oh, you wanted to say that. I was actually going to say I think it was unanimous. It was. Here's my question. Here's my question. You didn't comment, did you? I know it's bad. Oh, my gosh. Looking through, no page comments. But you know what pages are you? She's scrolling. I'm collecting my thoughts. I'm saving it for the pod. Here was where I was taken aback. The bow in your hair.

1:53That was a last-minute decision. Wait, do you think that was the one? Because I actually loved it. I think it sealed your fate. I thought it was Cunty. It's the small designer who's like the shit. That's another thing that people don't talk about enough. You're always taking small brands, small designers, trying to put them on a pedestal, trying to uplift women. I'm supporting female-run businesses, and you guys are tearing them down. I'm like, have you seen the Zara window today? So this is Mila Sullivan. Might be Mila. And I loved it because people were calling it a tampon, but it had this like red, which is very Hollywood to me, and like the lace, and yeah, the lace kind of looked nude on top.

2:34Without the bow, I think it really was good. Last second, it was brought up to be throw the bow in. You know when you're just walking out the door and you're like, yeah, what happened? Throw a little glitter. That's how it happened. You're the opposite of Coco Chanel. You're like, before you leave the house, add at least three things. Literally is what happened. Everything was done, and then we put it on. And I thought you would appreciate me trying to do a little girly bow. Yeah. But bows, I guess, aren't. You know what's funny is, like, I'm always, like, bring back Joan Rivers. Like, nobody, everyone's afraid to say something.

3:09And then when it's us, I'm like, oh, that was mean. Like, I'm like, oh, yeah. And they hit me right, right there. Wait, but you know what? That's why you didn't comment on my photo because you didn't want to kick a dead horse. There's one thing the internet loves and it's group mentality. And so if I did a comment that was less than favorable. You would have lit a fire that we could have never unfired. Yeah. Yeah. I could have never put that out. But your silence was loud.

3:42I was at one point where I was like, did I miss her? Did I miss it? And then I was like, oh, she's mad mad. I was like, she is leavened. I just I I well there's a lot of things about it that weren't me so you're already starting me at a negative okay you know I hate lace you do yeah I hate lace you know I hate lace you know I hate like multiple colors in one thing so like you already put me at a bad why would you do that but you know what i'm excited you wanted to be happy i crave like i it was too calm for too long you love no here's the other thing that i think that people insult me and give you a compliment that i i do actually think is true i love a trend i love being influenced i love seeing a girl and being like oh i can recreate that outfit that was such a good idea you have amazing personal style You only go by what you like and what you think looks good and what you think is cool.

4:46And I think that's a great thing. I also have a unique body type. It's very pear. And it's hard to pull off a lot of trends. Like I can't wear a blazer dress. You love a blazer dress. I love a blazer dress. My labia is just flapping around. Like my butt doesn't fit. Yeah, like anything I get, I'm like, if we made it mini, it'd be better. Yeah, like everything, I'm like, I need it to be longer because of my booty. But I digress. How are you? I'm good how are you I actually have a funny story okay I actually have a couple funny stories I think um my first story is wait tell me a story so the other day I get a email yeah I think an email or I'm so sorry I was like on a Wednesday at 2 p.m.

5:30I'm not bang how dare you I get an email or text whatever from gmail like hey your email was logged on on from another phone from another computer like whatever and i if there's one thing i take seriously it's cyber security okay very ubers and cyber security top of my list that's so funny because i'm like that's none of my business oh i've screenshotted sent into chat gpt like is this a real email is this a real website like i'm very weary. No, you remember when like Dior emailed me for a collaboration and I forwarded it to my agent. They were like, yeah, Dior doesn't want it. I go, it happened.

6:14It happened. They're like, no, it's D-E-O-R. They don't want you. Okay, so I get that email and so immediately I'm like, oh my god, this is like, and I don't know how to check like oh, is that my phone? Whatever. I'm just like changing my password. So I go on and change my password, like whatever. How many passwords can one person have? I mean, I write it down in my phone. So if someone took the phone, it's like I'm. I'm underpassing. Yeah. So then a couple of days goes by and my mom comes into town and whatever. And she says to me, I can't see your emails anymore. And I'm like, my emails. And I'm thinking she's like getting the word wrong.

6:51I'm like, what do you mean? Like my texts aren't going through like she and she's like getting her hair and makeup done. And she goes, no, your emails. I can't see your emails anymore. I go, how were you looking at my emails? And she goes, you gave me your old iPad. You never signed out of your emails. And the other day I got signed out of your emails. And I go, wait, what do you, I go, what if you open something and I didn't open it and then I missed it? And she goes, well, come on. I respect your privacy. Oh, you clearly do. And she goes, I only click on things you've already clicked on. Wait, I'm obsessed that from 8 to 10 p.m.

7:34every night, Kim has her shows. And by shows, it's going through Paige's junk mail. I go, what are you looking for? She goes, I like to see how you respond. I like to see how other people respond. I like to see what jobs you're doing. I go, I was so taken back. But the best part about it was that, like, she was confused on why I was confused. And the end of the conversation was, when I come home from Thanksgiving, I'll re-sign into my email on her iPad. Wait, now I'm mad that my mom isn't in my emails. Because now I feel like, does my mom even care? Well, everyone better be on their toes. Because I don't think you realize my mom is also reading it.

8:16Your mom is reading everyone's emails. Wait, this is so funny. And she had notes. And she had notes. That's like when you're little and you're on the phone with someone and then you hear like a noise and you're like, is someone on the line? I was so taken aback. And especially because I was at a Daphne photo shoot and people were talking about like going home for the holidays. And people were like, oh, I get a hotel when I go home so that I don't like burden my family and like stay with them. And I look at my mom from the corner of my eye and she's like, oh, no, get a hotel. You're like, I made my parents switch with me.

8:51I have their bedroom. I'm like, my mom is in my emails. Well, I didn't realize that I share location with my mom. And that's the thing they don't tell you. So like. Yeah, no, I knew that. Thank God she has it though. Because I don't want to text her every time I land. Well, that's the thing. It's very, it makes their life easier for us to share our locations. Because they're like, now when I text my mom, like I landed. She goes, I know. But also you as a mom, you're going to be. I'm chipping them. I'm microchipping them. I'm sorry. I just am. When you said I'm Russia, that was one of the funniest lines.

9:28I am Russia. That was one of the funniest lines you've had in a long time. And I think it's growing up because I feel like we are similar. We grew up in a household where we love our dads. Our dads are great. Totally. They're like patriarch. Let's go. Yeah. I mean. But our moms are in charge. Yeah. My dad's a personality hire. Add some color or get out. Like, unless you're adding a little light to the room, I don't need your shit. My dad comes in for dramatic effects. But my mom is in control. Like, anything serious you're asking are moms. Yeah. So, anyway, so I'm just like, that's how my household will be run because, sorry, men are a little bit dumber.

10:06My dad is dumber. He's not as skilled. He doesn't know what's going on. I was just with my extended family, my brother, his wife, and their two kids. I was the fun aunt. When I tell you we went off, we woke up. First of all, Lois wakes me up and wants me to read immediately, read a book to her, which should be a torture device. Have you ever tried to read the second you woke up? Never. Absolutely not. She literally wakes me up with this huge book, and she's like, read it to me. And then she knows she memorized the book, so if I – obviously I'm trying to – I'm out at third grade. Once they come home past third grade.

10:47Sorry, I can't help anymore. No, but like obviously I was like skimming the words. I'm not reading a full paragraph. I was like, let's get to the gist of it. And she was like, you missed a sentence. And I was like, I'm obsessed with you. Keep me on my toes. You're like, look at the pictures. Love us. So I was in Indiana, which look, there's a culture there. But I also, this happens to me all the time. My opener, Allie Colbert jokes that I interact with people where it seems like it's their first day on planet earth i like attract that energy like it's their first time interacting with someone so i tell lois let's go get smoothies because i'm fun yeah so i go to get a smoothie and i look at the lady and i was like i'll have the strawberry banana add peanut butter please because i'm fun right she looks at me tell me tell me if i'm crazy she looks at me and just goes almond butter in that moment i'm like okay so many things could be happening right now are you suggesting are you suggesting it are you did you not hear me and you thought i said almond butter are you saying you don't have peanut butter and you're going to replace it with almond butter yeah so tonight i go back at her because yeah you're like i just go peanut butter that's what i said peanut butter and lois is just looking at me and i go yeah don't worry auntie hand i'll handle this and the woman i swear to god looks at me and goes almond butter oh so then my heart starts oh my heart rate goes up she added extra she said almond butter so then i said i am so sorry are you saying that you don't have peanut butter yeah and you're replaced with almond butter and she looks at me and she just nods her head but i'm like with a full family i'm with my family yeah so you're a mother as far as she knows that's your child i was my child who was looking at her mother to see how she handles adversity adversity so I my heart's my heart's beating and I'm but I'm like you know I'm funny so I put my card and I turned to my brother after I go did I almost fight that woman and he goes that was fucking crazy and I'm like am I did I say it weird like is it me yeah and he's like no it's not you then we go to Barnes and Nobles obviously with our smoothies and trying to find how to giggle I I look in every airport.

13:02Haven't found it. Me neither. I don't know. I'm like, this is the one. I'm like, sure, there's a Giggler here that's like this book. I walk in, I'm like, everyone's staring at me. Everyone's like, that's a girl in the book. I'm like, they know I'm looking for my book. That's a girl in the book. But I walk in and I'm all like shy. And I'm like, let's try to find it. Can't find it on our own. But Barnes & Noble is fucking huge. And also like, I don't know what our book is under. Like self-help or like, who knows? Who knows? What genre are you? Is it considered new? can't put us in a box best selling I don't know yeah so I haven't been in Barnes and Oles in a while so I was like oh I know how to find it they have that like table at the computer where you like put the book's name in so I'm like come on Lois and I go on and put the book's name in I hear ma 'am ma 'am that's for employees only so then I look at that and I'm like look I look like I'm I'm about to like rob Barnes and Oates.

13:55Okay, there it is. And I'm like, I'm so sorry. And I look at my brother again and I'm like, am I the problem? Am I the problem? He's like, yeah, you are the problem. So Lois is like. Who knew those were for employees? Now thinking back, it was always an employee that would like write it. But it was just sitting there. Yeah. Like at least have a sign. Sorry a girl wants to take charge. But this is why I don't leave my house. Literally. I said that the other day. I forget what I was referring to. And I was just like, and this is why I don't go home. This is what happened. Then Lois got her nails done, which was the cutest thing ever, manicure, pedicure.

14:33And she's obsessed with sparkles. And she does this thing where she goes, Hannah, tell me a story. You should have seen. I got her so excited. I said, this little girl. You can just make up stories on your own. She literally would be like, tell me a story. And you started with saying there was a little girl and her name. And they were like locked in. she's like and i'm sad it's literally her being like gimme gossip i go let me there's a little girl and i'll be like and her name was lois and you know when they get that face where they're like oh my god like this is gonna be so good about me and i go and she had superpowers because everything she touched turned to sparkles i swear to god she went oh she gasped and i said i'm about to freak you out right now i'm gagged right now keep going and her favorite color is purple and And I go, and then one day it turned purple also.

15:21And she was like, I am freaking out. I just need to point out on the pod that you do also have a nephew. Bobby. Yeah. But, well, this podcast is for women. No, Bobby is actually the cutest ever. Well, then we bring them to a – it's called Sky Zone. Okay. This is what people do in the suburbs. There's a lot of creative things. Is this the trampoline place? The trampoline place. so I'm like sorry I'm breaking my neck I was like let's go get there and immediately I'm like I'm gonna throw up Lois is having the time of her life she's somersaulting which I'm like that's not what you're supposed to do here but whatever you want Bobby is just like bopping around the cutest ever and I feel like I was gonna puke and then there was a like ninja warrior type obstacle course the way I quit so like really no well because I'm my body weight is all hips down so I have no upper body strength and my fingers are really short and fat so like there was one thing where you had to like monkey bar it and like you know they try and they fall I just calmly fell down okay next Hannah and Paige try because I feel like I low key would be phenomenal at it okay we have to do what's it like like okay now that because you're not the parent and you're like the aunt you're a little removed having seeing like Lois and Bobby like would you rather have a girl or a boy like what looks easier Lois is observant Lois doesn't let you lie to her Lois says why where Bobby is just happy to be there he's like happy to be involved got a snack it's literally or like think of your parents like yeah like it's always the same my dad was talking to I think it was like my brother's girlfriend's mom and he was just like saying he was talking about like having kids or something and he looks at her and he was like well I'm a girl dad cute my dad has a son has a full son I'm like girl dads are for dads who only have daughters dad I'm like you look you I know you feel that and I feel it we have the same father I go you can't say that my father's like Facebook photo is a photo of me just like he's like no but I I am I'm a girl dad we're the password kids yeah we're the password if my dad had to keep passwords and my mom obviously keeps them i would be the password child but another great example my dad doesn't you ask him any password he's like what my favorite because the holidays are coming along i love looking at my dad being like do you know what this is no because you were not involved in any of the shopping anything but guess who got to get for you me you get mom to do all of it no i love it speaking of thanksgiving i literally thought i was like going crazy you know like when you go on tiktok and it's like mandela effect and it's like things whatever and like usually I'm like okay there could be like an explanation for that or like it changed over I really started to get scared the other day to the point where I called my mom and she's like yeah I see it she was like I don't know what you're talking about I thought Thanksgiving was always the third Thursday oh this has been my pay grade I don't That's none of my business.

18:35Of November. I wait for someone to tell me it's next week and then I do it. But it's not. It's always been the last Thursday of the month. And people are like, if you think that it was the third Thursday, you're in a different timeline. And so, like, I'm genuinely convinced I'm on a different timeline. I thought it was always the 28th. Is it? I don't know. No, don't listen to me. It's the 27th this year. It's the 27th this year. But I always thought it was the third Thursday. I got my tooth done. Let me see. Sorry. It looks sweet. It looks so different. Wait. Okay. Wait. It doesn't, but also it does.

19:12Do you feel better? Yes. That's all that matters. Okay. So I got a veneer just on this tooth next to my front tooth, but I didn't get my tooth shaved, shaven down. You got a veneer, but not on the front tooth. On this one. This one. Okay. I couldn't tell. Dr. Eric Chazin, Madison Dental. He's been my dentist for 10 years. Wait, did they shave it down? No, because my tooth was so pushed back. He was like, I can just glue on the veneer to your tooth and it'll be like the result you want. And I'm obsessed. And I love him. You have been pretty smiley lately. Have I? Yeah. I love my smile now. No, it was really annoying me though.

19:49Yeah. Actually, yeah, when I got Invisalign, you always have that moment where you're like, would you do anything? And the lady was like, yeah, like there's one tooth that I could like put some more tooth there. So I'm going to do Invisalign on the bottom and my top, like I'm good. I feel good. And he's like, and I don't need to see you now for a while. And I'm like, okay. You love. I love the dentist. A dentist. You love a dermatologist. That's where you feel alive. My doctor says like, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to make you come back in like next week. I'm like, no, I'm sad. I love my appointment.

20:18I told you I went to get a facial and they were like to book a laser. You have to like book again. And I'm like, you will never see me again. No, I love a follow up. You love. I love a follow up appointment. They're like, and we're just going to need to see you back. I'm like, and I'm here. I'm here. You go, just us two besties. Honestly, that's like one of the biggest reasons why I was like, I could never leave New York City. I'm like, all my people are here. Like all my doctors. Whenever I go to the doctor, I'm always like, I should do this more often. Yeah. But like it's, I told you I was talking to someone from LA and they were like, who's your anti-aging doctor?

20:51And I was like, I don't have a doctor. Wait. I don't have a doctor. That's so LA. But what were they referring to? because I wish you had more information on that. Gigglers, it's officially gift swap season. I'm so excited. Me and Hannah have gifts for each other from Ulta Beauty, and you're my favorite person to get a gift from and also give a gift. Why? Because I like to see your thought process. You know, I like to see... But also I love Ulta because there's so many different things I could pick. And you can really get something for everyone. Whether it's your skincare obsessed girl, whether the one who likes to put on makeup for a fancy event.

21:35Fragrances. Yes. They have a ton of fragrances. Yes. It's just your ultimate gifting destination. Also, I love an app. They have a great beauty app where I could just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Can I be your gift? Yes. Actually, swap. Swap. You go first. Okay. You know I love like good packets. You know I love this. I know. No, you would wear that as like a purse to an event. I got you the Clinique Black Honey Vault. So Black Honey is kind of their like iconic shade that they've known about forever. I feel like it really does look good on everyone. These are my favorite. Yeah. Do you want to know why?

22:13Because these are like a little nostalgic. I know. I also feel like you will have like six lip glosses in your purse and you still need more. Like you'd like to have options. I don't leave the house unless I have like three options for lip. And also, like, people don't talk about changing your lip midday. Sometimes you change with the mood. Like, so many people are like, does it last all day? It's like, well, maybe it doesn't because I'm going to throw a different look at 2 p.m. Exactly. Exactly. Especially when you have outfit changes, you need lip changes. Wait, and then you can legit use this.

22:43Yeah, it's really cute. This is a great gift. I love something that comes in, like, a little set, and it's like the gift is already practically wrapped. And silver's in. Let's see what Paige got me. so you think i smell i love sol de janeiro sol de janeiro is the best and also you're a driver now so like you actually have to keep sprays in a car because it's just like a rite of passage you could spray this anywhere anytime because it's a mist well yeah and it has oh my god fresh guava nectar sunlit orchid and sensuous pink musk is that what you think about me when you think of me pink musk yeah it is and that's the sole degenera charosa 48 it's one of their best sellers i like to call it the pink one because i think it's the prettiest one also when you walk into ulta beauty you can obviously find a gift but you might discover something new for yourself.

23:44Like there's always new skincare to discover. What I always say, one for you, one for me. That's how I do my Christmas shopping. Or you forget that you only got stuff for you and you didn't get stuff for everyone else. And that's something I'm working on. We love how easy Ulta Beauty makes holiday shopping. There's a set for everyone. There's gifts for yourself. And they just make it so easy because not only can you go in store, but you can also shop online. And in the Ulta Beauty app. And this little swap moment was brought to you by Ulta Beauty and ACAS Creative. Wait, another thing I saw on TikTok, which is really blowing my mind, it was this like news outlet in Canada.

24:19And it was this woman who I forget what her like exact job is, but it's like the study of like certain animal species. And she was saying that in the past 10 years, raccoons are making a really intense play to be domesticated. Well, was it because they're starting to become cuter. Their snouts have changed. They're smaller. Because they're smaller. It's easier for them to get food, I think, because so many people are feeding them. And they said this was like similar to what cats did. They just like hung around more. And we're like, hey. I can come in. But also speaking of Russia, last pod we were talking about it.

25:02They're domesticated in Russia. Like if you ever get like a random Russian TikTok, they have fucking raccoons as pets they take them to the grocery store don't raccoons have thumbs chris they do i think raccoons do have opposable thumbs that's your child like those are furry humans here's the thing i really feel like it's a hybrid between a cat and a dog kind of because it's cat like where it's like taking things with its hands but it's also like dog-like because it's like it's messy yeah it's like hey i mean don't tempt me with a new animal that i could domestic yeah i'm just like in 15 years like if someone was like here's your pet raccoon well did you hear people are really upset about how pigeons are treated in new york i have seen some discourse about the pigeon discord because pigeons back in the day were renowned.

25:59Renowned. They worked for the government. They were women in STEM. Literally. Yeah, they were how people communicated. Have you seen Game of Thrones? That's how they communicated. And now we're just like idiots. And now we're like, get out of the way. And every now and then, do you ever see a pigeon that's like walking with you? And I'm like, it could be us. Well, you want to know what? I have a lot of pigeons that sit on my windowsill. Yeah. And I don't know why. They're gossiping. It was specifically my windowsill, but those are kitty's friends yes butter loves and they go yeah they shit all over my window so but that's another that's for another time yeah i did something kind of adorable and my brother and i went out to dinner together just the two of you which honestly i don't know if we've ever ever done like yeah we'd hang out in college and stuff but never like as adults gary and i went out to dinner just the two of us not this summer but the summer before because my parents we were on vacation my parents were like we're not gonna go we don't feel well you guys go crazy and we looked at each other it's it's like you're not supposed to be alone with your sibling like that's when like weird bad things happen i saw tiktok where it was like when my siblings crying and i pat their back because my parents never taught us how to console each other there is something like inherently awkward with your sibling but then it's like so not it's yeah it feels so familiar but also so weird also because we left his wife and children at home but we we maybe sat the night before there's also like an overwhelming ick to it because you're like people think we're on a date like that's disgusting this is the thing about me my brother he's blonde with blue eyes yeah and he's a year and a half younger than me we're very close but because he lives in Chicago it's been like different yeah I can't see him but it was so funny we get in the car and they drive differently in the Midwest like we were um in a lane that wasn't moving and all the other lanes were moving and you know you're just in New York like they'll kill a family to get ahead yeah the car is like not going to the other lane but my brother and I are both polite.

28:07Yeah. Like we didn't have someone in the car to be like, they're not like racing. Yeah. They're like, this is life. We had a reservation. They were just like, oh yeah, the traffic is bad. The traffic is bad. And I'm like, well, can you, can we make some moves? No, New York has definitely made me way more impatient than I feel like I used to be. And I love how the Uber drivers, you'll be like, no rush. And they're like, it's okay. And then they just like, they're like, really? Cause I'm in one. They're just in the bus lane. And you're like, actually get ahead motherfucker get ahead um so we get to the restaurant wait i was just gonna say so like walk us through it like what do you guys talk about so we're talking and then we end up being in like the worst traffic ever yeah to the point where i was like well i think we ran out we've run out stuff to talk about and um we still have a whole dinner together so it's funny because it's similar to like i would assume that when my parents go out to dinner together just the two of them like what are they talking about other than me you know I know well we love talking about the parents so it's the kind of the same thing because making fun of your parents with your sibling is like a different symbiosis I even was talking about like a memory I had and he was like I was there and I was like you were it's funny how your memories like you don't remember fully I'm like you were in the car during that and he's like yeah a couple years ago it like I don't know if it was like a therapist said this or like where it was but it was like just because you and your sibling grew up in the same house with the same parents the same amount of years yeah doesn't mean they had the same childhood experience as you 100 and it it like kind of hurt my brain I was like wait what do you mean you didn't experience that the way I like I experienced my dad very differently than my brother experienced my dad.

29:55Yeah. He walked in the room. Your dad didn't even say good morning. No, like, he was, like, a little bit more. Hello, my sweetie poopy. Yeah, like, a little bit more scared of my dad because they would, like, have to work together. Oh, yeah. Where, like, if it snowed, my brother woke up knowing he had to shovel. Where I woke up knowing, like, hot chocolate. My dad's going to Dunkin' Donuts today. Like, you know, like, everyone's getting munchkins. Like, there's so many different things where like you realize you had a different experience. But it's so cute to think of like the memories that just you guys had.

30:26Like I was like, do you remember that Mexican restaurant we'd eat at the corner and we'd eat everything and then we lived up that block and my dad would go, okay, race. And he'd make us race on a full stomach full of Mexican. Michael Vick? No, literally. It was crazy. And then I would always win because I was older and I'm like, was that? Because I loved winning, but I was like, that must have, after like the 40th time you lost, that must have hurt. and I was we would play football and I again was bigger than him and I would just knock him down it's so true siblings really are the only people that knew you as a child who also will know you as an adult like even some of your friends don't know what you were like when you were three yeah 100 % also Daniel's kids are the same age difference and look exactly the same as me and him yeah so it's like watching us as kids I try to explain to Lois I'm like well Bobby is to you Daniel is to me yeah like kids I'm like, your dad is my little stupid brother.

31:22Yeah, like, does Lois know that her grandma is your mom? Probably not. She's fucking smart, though. You know, every now and then you're like, are you fucking genius? Or are we in that situation where, like, do you just think that because she's yours? I'm so that person where I'm like, that was the most athletic thing any kid's ever done. Or was it just, like, a waste of our time? Or was that spin move kind of ridiculous and not at all athletic? You know, but because she's yours, are you like, sorry, Lois is like. You don't have any nieces or nephews, do you? I let you know of. Not that I'm privy to.

32:02I was explaining to Daniel. I'm like, that's my child. Like, it's my genes with someone else's genes. The closest thing I have is like my cousin has kids, but they live in Chicago. So it's not even like I saw them grow up. Because my aunt and uncle, I'm like, yeah, like, I like you guys. But, like, I don't realize I love Lois and Bobby more than anything. Those are my kids. Like, I'll steal them. Yeah, like, I don't have that. I don't have anything like that. I'm going to start with that. Okay. Building the perfect jewelry stack sounds intimidating unless you haven't heard of Majori. Majori uses only the finest materials from 14-karat gold and sterling silver to diamonds and gemstones.

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35:53He was all like old people. Yeah. And then he goes, how many like actual meals are there? And he leaves like courses. Courses, yeah. And I'm like, Daniel, the way you started that, it sounded like you were about to be like, is this a one day? So we're just like giggling. And then the guy puts down the meal and my brother looks at me and goes, almond butter? And then we're losing it. Like we are losing it. There's nothing better than a callback, Back, especially from like a sibling earlier in the day. Because one thing about my brother, your brother's very, very funny. Yeah. My brother's actually quite stiff and professional.

36:30And like the adult, like he's more mature than me. But after one drink. Yeah, he's funny. He's me. Like he's so goofy. And then. Well, back to siblings have different experiences. Growing up with you, you were probably. Someone had to hold it together. So loud and like confident and like I'm going to say this and this is funny that he was probably like and that's her and this is me. I'm like a little bit more quiet. He's he's strong. He's sensitive. Beautiful. Great man. So proud of that man. We support him in the arts. Then when you go to these tasting menus, the descriptions they have of everything.

37:11Why did you guys pick a tasting menu? Well, because he's like he's like a foodie. Like he like loves like. I thought you like did it by accident. It is kind of fun because you get to like Gordon Ramsay it. Like you taste it and you look at each other and you go, mm, the acidity. Yeah. You're like, is that a foam? There's always a foam of some sort on a tasting. It's like you don't need to foam this. There's always a foam. They love a foam. Yeah. It's like, that's like me adding a bow at the end. You didn't need it.

37:41It was so funny because they describe these things. they'll be like and then we got this rock from a mountain and yeah and fell and asked whatever so then daniel started like making up stuff because they talk about like they'll be like there's so many skits that could be performed and the way we killed this was there was a ninja there was no pain the goat didn't see it coming and its family was nowhere near it like there's just so many details about so he starts doing that's so funny so we're just like giggling the whole meal and then the giggler was obviously coming in adding riffs so we had you had a nice time a nice time with my brother that's so nice i had a nice time with my little brother i also feel like you had an older brother which is completely different dynamic i feel like they beat you up like i'm beaten down like i came out of the womb just tired like lois is the older one and i'm watching bobby will like annoy her and she's not gonna beat him up she'll just be like bobby stop it where I feel like older brothers probably just like smacked you yeah they they beat you down so badly that you have nothing left to give you want to know what I think that is why like in so many of my like dating relationships that men have described me as like having a man's mentality because there is so much shit that I don't care that I'm like I don't care like shut up whatever And I think it is growing up with an older brother that like any emotional thing that I'd be like, and this is upset.

39:14He'd be like, shut up. No one cares. Not a big deal. Get over it. So I almost was like, okay, I don't care about that. If I had a sister, I don't think it would have been good for the world. I would have been so much more catty and calculating, I feel like, and like read into things. Where like the majority of things in my life, I'm like, I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. I there is positivity of having a brother in the household it's fun to like throw a tampon at them yeah and I think my brother and I were a good amount of years apart that I actually I always felt like an only child like I never felt like because my brother was doing things I couldn't because it was so opposite things yeah he's so boyish yeah and I'm so girly yeah that we never overlapped it's my brother during high school I went to three different high schools like I went yeah for tennis team then I went to Florida then I went back and my brother was like there so I like left him for a second when I was 14 my brother like to this day now mind you I'm 33 years old this man is 37 still will say you abandoned me and I'm like because you went to New York and he's to jail to college I'm like wait what do you mean he's like you moved to New York City I'm like to start my life like but it really upset like to this day it really upsets him Jerry has a metro card like you can get me too I see you every weekend you're at my apartment in your apartment I see you more now than when you were in high school you know it's actually so freaking cute my brother I would like go to different schools because of tennis my brother followed me to literally every school except when I went to Florida.

41:04Did he like that? He ended, I guess, I don't think there was. We haven't talked about it. We haven't talked about it. No idea. He said actually to himself and his therapist. It's weird. And then he went to Wisconsin with me. Oh, wow. Isn't that crazy? Wait, that is fun. He followed me everywhere, but he had a whole different life. There's also, I think, a different discourse with me and my brother because I was younger that like my whole life I was known as Gary DeSorbo's little sister, but now anywhere, like he's a lawyer. He'll be in court and a judge will be like, we watch. You know, so like now he's Paige DeSorbo's brother and it takes a lot.

41:39It's very jarring for him. He does not like that. I don't want to put my brother on blast, but he's at a big company and he is doing everything in his power for people not to know that he's my brother. To disassociate with you. Like literally he's so, like he's so proud of me, but he does not want to be part of any of it. No, I think, yeah. Thank you. So anyway, if there's someone with my last name or your company, that's my brother. One thing I'd like to bring to the forefront that I think that like AI needs to get on, people at Apple need to get on. Look, everyone's like, we don't need AI taking people's jobs.

42:14Totally. I completely agree with that. Let's use AI for things that we can actually use. Why can't I go into my pictures, into my photos album and type in exactly what I'm looking for and it not pull it up? Like I want to type in mirror selfie, red dress, purple shoes. Give me the picture. It doesn't come up? No, like it's, they have the search, but it's not accurate. Yeah, like I'll put like mom and like it shows my dad. Yeah, I'm like pull her up. You know who she is. You know who she is. You know? Do you ever search for cat photos? Of course. Daphne's labeled in there obviously, but like. No, you're right.

42:55For an outfit. Probably now that I think about it, my mom was probably to my FBI agent in my phone like, all good here. I got it. I've been monitoring your emails. We don't need you. I'll send you the report. Your mom is next level CIA intelligence. Like hire that woman. I can't stop thinking about it. Put her in the top level of the government. Yeah. It needs to be moms running things. It needs to be moms. It needs to be more. Like you know how Vince Vaughn did that movie and it was like retired Italian grandmas and they like made a restaurant. So cute. It really should be like retired moms just like.

43:28My retired mom. Running some type of vigilante. Is so busy with, she has a knitting club. She has a fundraising club. She has a historical society. I'm like, mom, at this point, get paid. Like work. I literally said to my mom the other day, I go, how did you work? You're so busy. She's busier than me. My retired mom, I'm calling her and she's like, can't talk right now, sweetie. Thank you. I'm running a new fundraiser. Or my mom will be out to lunch and she'll be like, sorry, I can't talk. I'm at lunch. You know Barbara. I have no idea who the fuck Barbara is. Yes, come on. You know her. I'm like, I can't.

44:00Who the fuck is Madeline? No, that's literally how I feel when she's like, I'm out to dinner. My mom says the knitting club is the craziest gossip ever. Because these bitches just go to gossip. Like, they sit. About, like, other people in town. They know everything. They know everything. And they're like, are you ready? And she's like, it's insane. But like it's hard to get into the knitting club. Oh, good question. Probably. Yeah. I have a story slash I want to hear your take. Okay. Jennifer Aniston, who we love, has a new boyfriend. Have you seen this? I've seen snippets. Like I couldn't pick them out of a lineup, but I saw he's like a good looking guy.

44:43But he does motivational. And that's. Yeah. What is it? That's my problem. Like for couples? It's like a life coach situation. situation so look I was with Allie my opener we're before a show this is what we do she says what do you think about Jennifer Aniston's new man he's so good looking so I look I see an older man I said you know that's my type yep and then immediately I see something about like I am worthy or something I said hold you go let me stop you right there and I go I don't like this at all it's giving Denise Richards ex-husband that energy and I said also are you a relationship coach who's single I don't like that I don't like any life coaches I don't want my life coach to be good looking either because that means you're using an algorithm but not look I don't know this man I don't know this man you need a life coach you call my mom I'll give you the number don't get scammed by these people she'll straighten you right that's my mom's favorite phrase I'll straighten you right out do I actually trust this guy though because he did manifest um Jennifer Jennifer Aniston maybe he does know something about manifesting however having a good looking man look at the camera and tell you life advice gets me sick to my stomach Hannah and preaching to the motherfucking choir and I don't want to like be so negative you guys but like whenever I've been depressed what do you do you buy like three self-help books that you'll never read yeah and then you like sign up for a class of like figuring out life if you could just buy happiness all of us would be happy you just have to like get alone and then you're my thing with life coaches and like no hate no shade but like a little what as a person seeking some type of guidance why am i picking a life coach over a therapist who went to school school well also medical life coaches if if you okay if i'm a big podcaster yeah and i want to give advice on podcasts that makes sense to me totally what have you done in your life that you i'm a drug addict and I'm trying to overcome being a drug addict.

46:47You're a life coach. You were a drug addict. Totally. But like what other, not just like I'm going through a rough time, want to become a Pilates instructor vibe. But this is what they do. Like a Tony Robbins. I'm weary. No, 100%. Because what he's done is created a multi, multi-million dollar business. Motivational. to help people where they make most of their money is from classes to teach other people how to be a life coach. Now, I don't know a lot of math. That would be like if one day. That's called a pyramid scheme. That would be like one day if we were like, hey, the Giggly Squad has great advice.

47:26Pay for the episodes. Yeah, well, it's or pay for us to give you lessons on how to become a big podcast. And then you don't become a big podcast, though. you just teach other people how to become a big podcast based on our knowledge of podcasting. Yeah. It's just, it's crazy. Yeah. So I'm like, Ali's about to go and Ali's like, no, but these people help you. Like you ever like down and you see a quote. I'm like, these people steal other people's quotes. Yeah. Put their name under it and put it with a nice font. Anytime I see a good looking man posting a motivational quote. Something went seriously wrong.

48:04He's got financial issues. He's in the closet. weird stuff with his mom weird stuff with his mom very weird very weird stuff boundaries have been crossed so i'm literally and she's like but i love like i love the idea of self-help i'm like yeah i love it but when people start scamming you for money and like they're making money off people in their darkest time i don't like it yeah and she's like okay i'm like get on stage i swear to god no and i know the tone you got when you're really passionate and she like god i could tell She's taking advantage of her. And Ali was like, okay, I didn't realize you were so – But it was funny.

48:40Halfway through – at first she was upset and then halfway through she's like, I just want you to know you're turning me on this. Like I actually could be swayed with this right now. And then I felt the momentum and I'm going in. I'm like, this life coaching is fucked up. I hate it. I hope he's nice for her sake. The next day I texted her and I said, hey. Oh, this continued. I said, hey, my astrologer – Sorry about yesterday. I said, my astrologer psychic is coming after the show and she is going to give us readings. And she goes, are you fucking out of your fucking mind? And I said, don't ask questions.

49:15You're just being rated, this man. I said, don't ask questions. She goes, so you lost in a life coach, but you're making me talk to a psychic. I go, hey. Different. Don't yuck people's yungs. Yeah, different. Totally different. We're on a journey together. I have an appointment December 9th. But you know what I say? I know that I don't know. Yeah. And that's true knowledge is knowing that you don't know. And I'm not telling people that I know things. Allie did say I would be a great motivational speaker. Do you know why? I know I could do what they do. I'm like, I could literally do it tomorrow.

49:44I know how to do it. I have JV coach energy. I can get anyone from the dumps to be confident in themselves. I could be a relationship coach. Wait, what's the team in high school where it's like, it's varsity JV. And then they're like, it's like, there's another one. After school. No, it's like, you're like too small. Sorry, I was always on varsity. I didn't know. You're too small. Are you trying to say peewee? No, it's in high school. Oh, okay, yeah. Or, but it's like eighth graders. Oh. It's like varsity, JV, modified. Oh, that was a made up thing they told you. Modified? Okay, so every eighth grader was.

50:22Modified? Yeah, it was like if eighth graders played and it was just eighth graders. I mean, I didn't play anything. I wasn't on it. When I was eighth grader, I was on varsity. heard about it yeah yeah anyway i don't even know where i was going with that no that i would coach the modified yeah yeah no i love being a hype girl i love making people feel better about themselves but to make people pay money it feels icky it feels weird but then again if you have psychic abilities yes charge people totally and if you're making up your psychic abilities that's on them yeah because that's on them for paying well i don't i just am weary of like a man being a life coach because they lie a lot you know and also when is a man ever reflected no and also like i love how chris thinks this is funny when am i ever going to a man for life advice you guys are have been fucking it up for so long how when has something ever happened in your life and you thought i'm gonna call my dad no never not one time been at a four-way stop sign and been like where do I go?

51:26A fork in the road. The only time I've called my dad in dire need is when my mom's getting her hair done and she physically can't pick up the phone. That is the only time that woman cannot take my call. Do you know who the only people I want life advice from? Anna? An 87 year old smoker. Yeah. Tell me everything. Which I feel like I embody. You do. You do. You have an old nicotine soul. Yes. I feel like I have the energy of an 85-year-old woman who smokes a cigarette but still dyes her hair. I don't want a handsome 47-year-old man talking to me about adversity. Certainly not one that has longer hair that he can push back.

52:07You know exactly what he looks like. It's grown a little bit. You know he goes to the hairdresser and he's like, I want a little bit of a flow where I can kind of. Stop, I'm sick to myself. No. Stop, I'll actually call it. And I know that Jennifer Aniston is about wellness. She loves smart water. She loves working out. I feel like he might, he's not, but look. You're just not loving it for her. We're going to wait and see. We're going to, we're not going to speak ill of him. There's worse people she could date. Totally. Totally. But like, if she's my friend, I would want better for her. Yeah. I get it.

52:42I absolutely get it. I don't like it. I think it's scammy. I think it's scam scam. Well, we'll have to just like wait and see. I don't find, I think. Apparently they're really happy. Yeah. So whatever. We're really, really happy together. I'll talk to a psychic to find out. Quick trend report, as you know, I like to do. Funnel necks. All the girls are in a funnel neck. What do you think? Love. It doesn't give like tortoise? No, I love it. I love a funnel neck. Well, do you remember Victoria Beckham in her documentary where she put on that jacket that covered her whole face with the funnel neck?

53:13There was like a TikTok and it was like gay Halloween and it was like a guy. And he was like, just like, I'm Victoria Beckham trying on her jacket. and he just kept zipping it up and down. I love a funnel neck. I love Victoria Beckham. I like a funnel neck because sometimes I get double chins. And if I have a funnel neck, I could, like, laugh. See, like, stuff like that. Like, trends like that, I love. It's like, we're not going to be doing it for long, but it looks cool. So why am I not going to buy a jacket with a funnel neck? And I dabble with a trend that, like, is good with my face shape.

53:44Totally. Yeah. I watched a Zara Larson documentary on Amazon. Exactly. Exactly. Zara Larson. She has some of the top. I can hear you. She has some of the top songs like ever. I live my day as if it was the past. Live my day as if it was the past. Living life, no life, no summer. Living life the way I wanna. Yes, now I got it. Yes. She sings that song. She sings okay, you know. She sings all these top songs but no one knows who she is. But she has like Five of like the top songs of the last decade. Why? Great question. She's basically like, why are my songs so good but no one knows who I am? And I think it comes down to branding.

54:32And so it's really interesting to watch. Is she a blonder or not? She's in between? She's blonde. She's blonde. She's blonde. She's Swedish. She's like so perfect looking like a doll. But she dresses very kind of like sparkly. 27. she it's kind of like you think of olivia dean yeah you got the hair you got the outfit you see it like you see it like the branding is so good i think i saw a thing that said that like if you want to be a pop star you can't be like tate mccray is the exception where she's blonde brunette you have to either be fully brunette or fully blonde also but what i think tate mccray does is you have to stick to a hairstyle yeah but i mean zara larson does like have a hairstyle it's more just like she hasn't found her voice so it's a cool thing to watch this girl who's so successful but no one knows who she is and trying to find her voice and her managers are sitting there and I'm like let's figure something out guys but it's it was just fascinating.

55:32She lives in America? She goes back and forth and she's really funny. Is she super famous in Sweden? I think so but she's also like crazy talented and when she was really young she won like a Swedish song voice competition one of the number one things that blew my mind as a child was thinking that there were other famous people in the world but we didn't like they were famous in their own country and i'd be like well if you're not famous in america then you're not actually famous guys that's why i'm so obsessed with my husband because he's so famous in ireland no and now i'm like obsessed with like being famous in a different country like that is so cool like if whenever anyone from Australia like not Canada sorry guys but like you're right there with us you know like you're we're basically we live together okay Drake but like with someone from Australia or like if you get recognized like when we're in Italy or something I'm like she's global this is amazing she's global so maybe she just hasn't translated yet into the American market yeah but she's her songs kill it in America so it's it's a very interesting also do you remember 2017 there was like Halsey Alessia Kara was that her name sure there was all of these singers that like are like alternative type where is Halsey oh I think she got married had a baby and she's like on TikTok basically being like I don't want to be that famous anymore which I like I respect totally but what's interesting about the Zara um documentary is from the very beginning like as a kid she was like I want to be as famous This is Beyonce.

57:07I want to be super big. She's, like, so focused on it. I think that she, part of her, like, forgot to, like, live other things, to have her own, like, opinions and stuff. She just has always been, like, I want to be a successful musician. But I love watching a woman who is just ambitious and it's not negative, which brings me to the controversial take of the week. Which is? Dance It with Stars. Are you aware of what happened? I am abreast. Are you aware of what happened? I have watched every single episode. What the fuck happened that fucked up Dancing with the Stars for her? As someone who's watched all seasons of Mormon Housewives, the first season, they put Whitney in.

57:50Everyone's like, oh, we hate her. Then you realize, oh, she's the whole show. Okay? They wouldn't have a freaking - She's a star. She's a star. She's a star. Okay? Basically, obviously, they all start getting more famous. All the seasons then turn into like we're filming reality TV. It's very fourth wall. Cut to this season. She was previously like, I'm leaving the group. Now I want back in on the group because, well, I want to film the show. Yeah. And I have to film the show. And then the other girls found out that her deal with Hulu was great. I'll film Mom Talk if you get me an audition for Dancing with the Stars.

58:28And also I want an audition for something scripted. Hulu said, great, because this is showbiz, baby. She also didn't ask for a raise. She said, I don't want my raise. She puts people in couches to watch TV. That's all they care about. Great. And the girls are like, are you only here because you want Dancing with the Stars? Are you only here for the zipline? Yeah. Basically, she was like, yeah, I am. And they were livid, okay? And then she got in her car and she said, not only am I getting Dancing with the Stars, I'm going to fucking win it. And I love that energy. She said that. Yeah. So that's why people turn.

59:06So they're mad. And here's the other thing. Only women watch reality TV and no one hates a woman more than another fucking woman. And so people wanted her to see her not succeed at it, even though I do think she's one of the best dancers on there. I get very sensitive to like they were showing this scene where they showed all the girls auditioning for Dancing with the Stars in a meeting. And then when her meeting came, it cut to all these confessionals of all the girls being like, oh, my God, Whitney. when her meeting was the same as everyone else's. And Taylor went on to get Bachelorette. But again, it's the kind of person that people want to be.

59:41Well, sometimes I feel like people watch reality TV and obviously don't have it from our lens. But people don't realize, okay, the Bachelorette is ABC and Hulu. Taylor got the Bachelorette because she's on MomTalk. It's the same thing as Whitney going on Dancing with the Stars. It's all one network. Yeah, and also these people are making money for the network. Right. The network wants them on other things because it's going to make them money. When people say people made money off reality TV, guess who made the most money? The TV. They're making the money. Yeah. But my... Also, sorry are you mad at Whitney for having vision?

1:00:20Wait, sorry are you mad at Whitney for being fucking honest? I love that she was like, this is what I want. Also, sorry are you mad at Whitney because she was given a platform and she goes, how am I going to capitalize it 20 times harder? I'm happy you agree with me on this. I 100 % agree. I would have been weirded out if she lied to everyone and then took someone else's spot. Also, I wholeheartedly agree with her. And as someone who didn't even really like her the first season, I'm on her side. Oh, 100%. Get your coins, honey. Well, I've been in that situation, too, where sometimes you are so annoyed with people, you're just like, this is my truth, and then they're mad at you for it.

1:00:54Here's the other thing. People that are on reality TV, I would even say specifically Mormon wives, they had a vision for their lives i don't think being on a reality show popped into their head but they were given this opportunity and they thought oh my god the actual dream i had for my life this can help me get there yeah her actual dream is to be a dancer a performer she's they're gonna put her in chicago she's gonna be on chicago also this is a girl who was born into a religion that basically says you are like a servant of your husband. Yeah. And her husband actually I think of the whole group is the most supportive of the husbands.

1:01:36So for her to get out of that, we should be applauding. Okay, I'm glad that my gut was right in this because I watched every episode of Dancing with the Stars and I'm sick to my stomach to the point that I might boycott it. And who's left? I'm sick to my fucking stomach. It's people that aren't even close to as good as her. So this is kind of the tea. there's this guy Andy there's always someone on the show who's like an older guy who's like really funny he's a comedian but he's not good but he sucks oh I know Andy but Andy Richter yeah but it's funny because there's a woman who's exactly his age that no one treats like that because she's a woman because she's a woman but everyone's like Andy's so cute and that way they're like do better to the older woman but anyway Andy everyone finally was like we have to vote this guy off he can't dance we have to vote him off so he gets voted off but then everyone's like we have to vote Whitney off because she can dance and it's not fair that she's such a good dancer.

1:02:29And Andy goes on TikTok and goes, guys, first you want to vote me off because I can't. Then you vote off someone who can. What's going on here? Also, Alex Earle has dance training. Yep. The other woman has dance training. The other one's a gymnast. So like she's trained. Yeah, can move her body. She's a professional at moving her body. Dill Neffron's hot. And yeah, those are like the people. Oh, and Robert Irwin, who's amazing. Okay. But like it was supposed to be Robert Irwin Whitney and Alex Earl are like the top three favorites for Whitney to get voted off when she did before even the semifinals it was it was the semifinals but the semis are like a lot of people make the finals it was so upsetting and I do have to say you guys as someone who's done tv when a camera's in your face when you're emotional it's very hard to hold it together totally and in that moment I was like we're gonna see her character a little bit yep the mic goes to her and she goes, I'm so grateful for this opportunity.

1:03:27I met so many incredible people. I love you so much. Thank you. A queen. And I was like, you know what? I respect her because she got fucked. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry because I know you also love the show. I would assume that the people watching Dancing with the Stars are of a certain age and certain gender, and that's probably over 55 a woman and they probably have a couple sons but i feel like that the normal watchers of dancing with the stars voted for her because they were like she's an incredible dancer i love her but it was the tiktok people who watch mormon wives that were like we're getting her off which are women true it's sad it's actually so sad i wish that we the energy we took to take another woman down we took to take a man down yeah no literally any man and any man i have a list i have a list hannah and people go i don't like her personality she's dancing all these other people who are not as good dancers as her not working as hard as her not as fun to watch not well that's not as committed she's extremely so committed um She just has like presence on screen.

1:04:43I'm sorry. Like not all celebrities are people who get famous. Do you actually want to watch them on screen? Yeah. She's on Mormon Wives because I'm sorry. Without her, it's not as good. Yeah. Like I do also, I hate the gang up. I hate the bullying. I hate it on screen. I hate it off screen. So like when I see everyone decide like fuck Whitney, when it's like, give me something that she did that wasn't edited on a TV show. Here's the other thing. When one person is doing better than everyone else, everyone else is like, we gotta claw her down because she makes us look bad that we didn't do anything.

1:05:26And it's like, okay, well, sorry, you had the same amount of time in the day as Beyonce and you didn't get it done, honey. I'm very upset. I'm mad at people. I'm disappointed. Now I'm mad. And now we're mad. And like, I used to watch The Bachelor a lot. Yeah. And then one season they go, we're going to mix it up and we're going to have two bachelorettes and we're going to have the men decide which one is the bachelorette. I said, what? Man. Why are we giving the men so much power? And I said, I can't watch this anymore. I'm not watching two women fight it out for men to like them. I'll watch 20 women fight it out with one man.

1:06:05But not that. not the other I have boundaries I have boundaries I have boundaries so anyway I'm very upset but Whitney already posted that she's in New York and like she's probably I think she's auditioning for Chicago as she fucking should I selfishly just like loved watching her dance and I love people I love their dreams coming true yeah they wanted to she wanted to be on it for so long but the truth is when the cream rises to the top and she's gonna keep going and she's gonna do well final thing yeah back to me rosalia followed me on instagram she did and i was gonna post about it but then i was like that's not cool and then immediately i was like what would a cool person post on instagram and then i was like what does rosalia think is cool that i should post on instagram so i am in a rut i'm in a creative rut i'm overthinking everything think about it because the last time we got into this situation we had to apologize to hayley it was like a whole thing Well, I think, like, if someone famous follows you, like, she's my, like, actually my style icon.

1:07:10Wait, I had someone famous follow me and I haven't brought it up because I'm, like, so scared about it. Oh, no. Because I just, like, I got nervous, like, immediately and I can't, like, look at it and I can't, like, follow back because I'm so scared. Channing Tatum. I'm like, well, are we getting married? Wait. No, Channing's a giggler. I think he thinks things are funny. No, Channing is a full giggler. I know people who know people. I bet. who know, he knows us. Like I got nervous. Well, he's my ex-boyfriend. Right. He's your ex-boyfriend. So he's probably, Anzi's probably like looking at your page to see my stuff.

1:07:42That's what I thought. Yeah. That's typical Channing. Wait, also, I went to the Bloomingdale's like window reveal this year. How beautiful. Wait, I can't believe I've never done that before. What about a ring? What about a ring? What about a ring? What about a ring? Diamonds. She was so phenomenal Ray we're talking about it's funny because Olivia Dean is blowing up like British jazz girl yeah and I was like Ray's been yeah working hard so Ray now has a song the jazz British girls I'm a big Ray fan actually the British girls now plus Lily Allen no I'm like I'm crushing it no I'm like do we go oh my god should we change this to a British podcast yeah oh my god wait and then I was with a girlfriend who who she's blonde I was with a girlfriend who knows Victoria Beckham and she had said something and she was like, oh yeah, Victoria said that about you.

1:08:37And I go, sir? Sorry, what? She's like, yeah, me and Victoria talked about you. And I was like, okay. Wait, that's like when you have a crush and you're like, what did they say? No, that's literally, I was like, every fucking word. I was like, what was her tone though? Yeah, what was her tone? Was it like a quick combo or was she just like, oh yeah, I know her? Or was she like, oh my God, I love her. She's like, no, she thinks you're so adorable. ball i'm like i am adorable she's actually spot on that's why i checked your website it said she's adorable victoria beckham wait now when you go on stage people go she has a big podcast victoria beckham called her adorable literally that's how people should introduce me from now on anyway um it's thanksgiving week i love thanksgiving it's like my it's my favorite let's start from the beginning what do you like about um no I love Thanksgiving too I can't wait and you know what we're thankful for giggling

1:09:56Thank you.

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