


In this episode of Giggly Squad, hosts Hannah and Paige dive into various topics including Hannah’s emotional experience at a gay rodeo, observations on modern club culture, the dynamics of dating, and reflections on personal growth.
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The hosts discuss a recent incident involving Kiki Palmer and stage security at an event.
“Let me start with something that happened last week because I forgot to talk about it when we were, because we were talking about so much South by Southwest.”
An exploration of societal expectations around masculinity and its impact on mental health.
The hosts share insights about gay rodeos and the challenges faced by LGBTQ+ individuals in the world of rodeo.
“It was one of the scariest documentaries I think I've ever watched, actually.”
A discussion on the evolution of club culture and its significance to the hosts.
The hosts recount a night out at a club and the surprising interactions they had.
“Clubs were like such a big part of my life for so long and thinking that like Gen Z doesn't go out and like drink and go to clubs and like I feel bad for them because everything's recorded and you can't like be yourself.”
Explore the unique bond formed between women who have dated the same man.
“And so I turn around and I start talking.”
Dive into the implications of reality TV on personal relationships and societal norms.
“Dakota truly is tell me lies Steven in real life.”
Explore the psychological effects of reality TV on participants, especially men.
“I've watched so many men and I've watched so many women on television and experienced it.”
Discuss how public perception can distort personal identity and mental health.
“And when you have a stalker, I'm not kidding, it's you feel...”
Share personal anecdotes about interactions with men and societal expectations.
Talk about using beauty items creatively in everyday life and fashion.
“I was like he's gonna hit me in the back of my head He's gonna pull me out.”
Delve into personal care routines and contrasting attitudes towards 'stuff'.
“adorable I was like I'm gonna start using all my pretty things that I like for other purposes well you have so many little trinkets I love a drink I love stuff you love I love my stuff see I hate stuff.”
Discuss the complexities of relationship choices and red flags.
“He's so extremely manipulative to everyone around him that you can see him almost be excited that people are believing him.”
Explore the pressures women face regarding marriage and career decisions.
A humorous take on the past relevance of sharks and the rise of AI in media.
Reflecting on childhood aspirations and the nature of belief in oneself.
Discussion on how parenting shapes children's self-esteem and resilience.
“That's so funny you say that because my parents were like looking through old pictures the other day.”
Unpacking the different societal reactions to men and women in media.
“Well, it's good for kids to have adversity, but it's bad for them to just like get their confidence hurt for like a stupid reason.”
Light-hearted banter about nicknames and upcoming comedy shows.
The hosts discuss their nicknames and share weekend plans in Ohio and Salt Lake City.

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1:17Hannah Berner: I had one literally so prepared. Gravitas. Oh, I love that one. I don't know what it means. What's up my gravitas, Gigglers? I feel like it's one of those words that's like... Does it mean free? no that's that's i feel like it's giving like yeah millennials definitely put it on a pillow their day which was my high school slogan i think something about being green something about c 'est la vie that's what yeah that's what it is oh my god millennials love yes oh my god put it on a poster in your room i have a couple things i need to talk about i Kevin Liston. Go off. Where should I start? Where should I start?
2:00Hannah Berner: Let me start with something that happened last week because I forgot to talk about it when we were, because we were talking about so much South by Southwest. True. Did you see the video of Kiki Palmer doing something at South by Southwest? I don't even know who she was interviewing. She was interviewing like a cast of something. And a guy came up to the stage. Like walked up to the stage. Walked up to the stage. Like normal, in his 30s, good looking, dressed well, had like a lanyard on like he was supposed to be at. First of all, what is South by Southwest? No one knows. Also, if you have a lanyard, you could do anything.
2:36Hannah Berner: Do you know that when Lucho has his camera, he goes, I can literally do anything. He has broken into so many things with me where they're like, you don't have another ticket. And he's like, I have a camera. And he's like, I could do anything. It's really crazy. But anyway. You just make up a fake lanyard and walk anywhere. So this man like has a lanyard. So he walks up to the stage and he, I'm not kidding, proposes to Kiki Palmer. And Kiki is like so professional and actually like too nice to this guy. Yeah. The thing that pissed me off so badly was, remember when this happened to Drew Barrymore?
3:17Hannah Berner: Yes. And I think she was with Renee Rapp. Renee Rapp like had a bodyguard. Yes. And the bodyguards ran out so quickly. no one ran out no one it took them like three minutes and they were like so nice to this guy like oh can you move along like you know like this isn't no tackle this man what are you talking about he's walking up and proposing to kiki palmer well that happened once in one of our shows remember someone got up and just started walking towards the stage and we both were i said are you gonna shoot me and no security guard no one said anything but you wonder like what security is there for it's definitely if someone starts like going towards the stage well there's no protocol in which the audience has to be on or near the stage yeah unless whoever's on stage is like we're bringing someone up from the audience so anyone moving toward the state tackle that i saw that like but kiki is famously like the nicest coolest most charismatic person but she shouldn't have been in that position one time i met her at the today show and she looked and she said you look like emirata and then she walked away and i was like i said i love your pixie i did a video with her back in the day when i was at betches i love her she's amazing people don't praise her enough that she's like multi-talented so multi-talented she could do anything but she's one of those that like is so talented that i think people haven't caught up like like guys She was a singer Hello She was She was in a spelling bee Yeah She can spell So anyway That annoyed me I digress But also You have to When the whole audience is there You can't suddenly be like Bro shut the fuck up Like you have to be nice Well even like the people That she was interviewing They were like Almost like joking And I was like No This guy could whip a gun out That's like stalker shit Leave Kiki Palmer alone Speaking of mentally ill So go anywhere This is a great segue Okay which we rarely have and I rarely watch something that you've already talked about because I'm like why watch it my friend watched it she told me about it I watched the manosphere it is so deeply mentally unwell like I'm watching it and they're in and the guy what's his name whatever Lewis Thoreau is interviewing these men and I'm like why isn't anyone breaking the news to them that they're mentally ill and they have to go on medicine and see a doctor or call their dad or one phone call to your dad might eliminate this the one guy also the one guy that like lives in Miami and has red hair yeah get a boyfriend babe babe just one man just see you've obviously already hooked up with a man I actually don't even have to say that but maybe date one like fully and you wouldn't have to terrorize everyone you meet here's the other thing the other guy when they bring in the mom and he's like changes his whole rhetoric because the mom looks at him and is like who raised you rhetoric and then the one guy whose wife came in and and he got all scared and was like please cut her part well they're all fake con men they're all so dumb too any guy that has to say they're manly is not manly any guy who has to say they're a nice guy is not a guy a nice guy you're doing all of this to like make money and like but you don't you're influencing an entire generation of men who are their brains are not formed and won't be till their 40s and it's really scary and gen z is so scary and they're blaming the fact that they're failing on women they're saying society is like created for the men to fail because of the women i'm like have you heard of the patriarchy read a history book everything is set up for you guys go do one job interview you guys set it up in 1700 you guys did this you're complaining about the patriarchy that you're in charge of it's so it was so freaky and so scary and weird and it's also i think they almost like envy women so much they want to like emulate them and do things that we like Like this man was like, he's never going to get invited to Miami on a yacht.
7:33Hannah Berner: It's like, okay. They're so mad that girls get free drinks. He's like, she can go on a yacht with a hot guy. Do you want to go with a hot guy? Because we'll tag you in. Do you want to suck dick on a yacht? Because you can. Anytime I've ever been invited anywhere by a man, I've brought other friends. Like you could come with me. It was one of the scariest documentaries I think I've ever watched, actually. I'm in like a RuPaul K-hole still. Yeah. Which is why I haven't had any new documentary updates. But one of the many challenges or challenges they have is they brought in gay rodeo. Okay. Now gay rodeo.
8:14Hannah Berner: Anyone who says this podcast isn't informative has literally never listened to a single episode. So by the way, I cry every episode of RuPaul Drag Race. Like you think you're not going. Everyone's crying the whole time. Okay. So a bunch of these like really manly rodeo men come in and you find out they're all gay and they're all like, I was afraid to come out because rodeo is so masculine and homophobic. Yeah. So like they were like, if I came out as gay, the rodeo wouldn't accept me. So they created their own. What are you? The rodeo is gay. Rodeo is gay, by the way. Just a bunch of men riding each other.
8:50Hannah Berner: Watch Yellowstone and shut off. Also, you're wearing heels with a pointed toe. You're like, there's no need. You've been accessorizing with belts and hats for years. We know you're gay, babe. You're wearing belts with decorations on them and showing them off. I think the same with like the WWE. Like, oh, the prize is a belt? Also, it's the only sport that rodeo where men were like, we need to wear jeans. I'm like, you don't need to wear jeans. And they're like, that's my aesthetic. they're like no we do no other sport do wear jeans anyway wait that's so interesting to like other sports like polo doesn't wear jeans why are they in their like my their favorite like Levi's no they like really lean into like the aesthetic of their sport like if you said to me gun to my head I talked about guns a lot you are like so much violence yeah so much violence if you said gun to my head what do they do in the rodeo i would die i've watched it once accidentally at a bar because i'll get into any sport it's insane they just get thrown off a bull that doesn't want them on their back like pita's not happy pita's like clearly they don't want you riding them honestly you know what it is it's just like no consent it's just men like with no consent the bulls literally like hey can we not do this like we're doing this and they're like well i'm gonna kick you off if you try and the guy's like i'm gonna try and he's like well i'm gonna kick you off that's a sport but so these gay rodeo guys created this gay rodeo for guys who wanted to come out of the closet and be gay and do rodeo in peace in peace and then they were getting becoming drag queens and it was so interesting because one of them was like I used to do drag but I felt like I lost myself and I lost my masculinity but I'm finding my femininity is helping me find my power and he was crying and i was crying but like it's just discovering different versions of themselves but anyway i really love rupaul's drag race thank you so much for that interlude hannah we appreciate it on this very pleasant monday morning it is such a monday today it's such a monday especially because i socialized this weekend which is like so when page socializes without me i sit back i wait i'm worried i'm i can feel nervous wake up in the morning have a 1 a.m text of everything that went down you made me laugh so hard can i say one of your quotes yeah she goes the girls are younger the guys are exactly the same
11:28Hannah Berner: okay something's going on with gen z and look i feel like i talk about this a lot with like and I think it's partly because like I get I'm getting older but like I'm really sad that club culture is dying. Clubs were like such a big part of my life for so long and thinking that like Gen Z doesn't go out and like drink and go to clubs and like I feel bad for them because everything's recorded and you can't like be yourself. 2015 we weren't Instagramming. No certainly not I was living my best life out on a table at a club somewhere doing something. We know what you're doing i go to dinner i go to dinner with one of my girlfriends one of my guy friends and they keep being like okay we're gonna go to this club like after dinner and i'm like okay and every club's name is a lovely female's name really delilah mary lou jolene like all these different club names it's just like women's names trying to get the women to go there like it makes it feel it sounds like a brunch delilah that sounds like a brunch we pull up and i'm like this is not i know this club and i like say the name of it years ago and they're like oh yeah i think it was that club 27 years ago in 1982 so i walk in i go no it's the same club they I didn't even change the formation.
12:55Hannah Berner: I'm like, bar's over here. DJ's over here. You already know everyone who works there? No, truly. You're like, Steve. Two things happened to me. One, I witnessed for the first time ever in my entire adult life, I witnessed, I'm standing at one table, and it's like a row of tables. I'm standing over here. There's like maybe a couple, I'm like two tables away. I watch two men sitting at a table, three men. sitting at a table alone and I watch pretty young girls walk up to the table and I see the men look at each other like who are these girls like why do they want to like we don't know them type thing like get away from our table and in my head I'm like hey guys this is the whole point the whole point of getting a table is so that those two girls actually want to speak to you because if If we weren't in this setting, they wouldn't.
13:50Hannah Berner: So it was like one of the weirdest, I was like, this is so weird. I have to go. When I'm walking in, I hear a girl behind me say, I'd recognize that voice anywhere. Like I'm a giggler. And so I turn around and I start talking. Because you know you were yapping. I was yapping. And I start talking to this girl and her friend walks up and I look at her friend and I go, I know you. How do I know you? and she goes I dated your ex-boyfriend after you and I go I've looked at your it's like I'm then it like all came flooding back I was like oh I know everything about you I go I've stalked your Instagram there's a close the closeness of that relationship but also the tea that must have been spilled well we couldn't even spill it like in that because we literally had like five minutes but you're trauma bonded we were so trauma bonded I was like you're stunning you're gorgeous like everything about you and then you almost feel bad for a second that you let her date him like you're like i should have intervened i said i wanted to dm you but i didn't want to see that girl yeah but like i needed you to know that he was the he's the worst honestly there's something so refreshing talking to another girl who dated the same guy to be like he made me feel like a b c and d is that because of me or is that just a universal experience?
15:10Hannah Berner: Actually, I talked to two people this weekend, two separate boyfriends, and they're like, wasn't that a nightmare? And I'm like, one, I dated before, and then the other one, I dated after this girl. And it was almost like the same thing. She was like, someone needs to tell her that he will try and ruin her life. Okay, so those are the couple things on my docket. But also, I would say, yeah, we need to rank all the guys and leave notes on them, da-da-da. But I do think it's important to see how bad a dude can be so that you know what your worth is and then you date up. Like it's almost like you need that experience to know what you deserve.
15:48Hannah Berner: And I'm the kind of girl that like if you DM'd me and was like, this guy's horrible. Like I'm reading it. Oh, yeah. Like I'm not immediately being like, OK, well, that's like I'm like, well, why? Give me all the tape. I say, who is this girl and why she said that? right and give me your side of the story I'm fucking judge Judy right now and the amount of girls that like I've reached out to I reached out to one girl specifically actually that dated a guy that I dated prior and I reached out to her and I apologized to her because I said I'm so sorry that I even had a moment that I would believe him over what a woman was saying I was so blinded I completely apologize everything he said was a lie I'm sure you're lovely I'm sure we'd be friends she responded like let's get to like yeah like all like all good I know the type of like psychosis you were in because I dated him also so don't worry about it.
16:50Digmatization yeah when they're in it they're in it and you got to get it let her get through that yeah you can't convince sir like you're like he's in jail and she's like and he calls me every day so go fuck yourself
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21:58Hannah Berner: craziness i just want to apologize to the gigglers because we had recorded the episode before last week before all of this did we talk about it no all of this like happened we had already recorded we weren't like go watch the bachelor no so i was actually so mad this week when like everything was happening because i was like i have so much to say about this i was literally texting you like i can't wait to hear your take my top line is if you're mad at taylor taylor frankie paul which i like her name is like so intense if you're mad at her i so envy you because that means you've never dated a person like Dakota.
22:33Hannah Berner: Dakota truly is tell me lies Steven in real life. Is she toxic too? Absolutely. There were a lot of people that were mad that like in Mormon Wives, you saw her sleep with Dakota before she left to go do The Bachelorette. And it's like, okay, well, yeah, because she's a reality TV star and you're watching her reality show. You think like the other Bachelor and Bachelorettes weren't fucking before they went on tv or immediately after like that's insane she's single and clearly in a toxic people like really sometimes don't can't like see through reality tv and it really confuses me people judge reality tv harsher than they judge their own friends i think the bachelorette season being pulled from the air is one of the craziest things ever well i would like to say if you're gonna pull the bachelorette season from the air you're gonna have to pull the whole NFL season you're gonna have to pull the NBA the NFL MLB golf um you probably get a lot of people out of the government the entire government but yet this 26 year old Mormon housewife her whole season is getting pulled and she might get sued like please on information that they that you already knew you hired her knowing this information now the video Yeah.
23:49Hannah Berner: Did you watch the video? I have to say, I don't recommend people watch the video. I watched it innocently just like for informative purposes. Yeah. I have a podcast. Correct. It was very, very upsetting. Very upsetting. Don't watch it. There's a child. You can hear the daughter. Yeah, that was. Like now Taylor, Frankie, Paul, that's fucked up. Fighting with him in front of your children. Women are just better than men. We have to be better than them. And so like you should have gone into a different room. and like duked it out or whatever. We witnessed a person at their lowest low. I've watched so many men on reality TV do some of the most horrible things to people.
24:31Hannah Berner: Physical, mental. Physical, mental and get so... I've watched people be like, I'm a drug addict and then be like, you're the star of the show. I've watched people get in physical altercations that if I had gotten into... Yeah, you fired. I'd be in jail. You would have been fired. The Bachelorette firing Frankie, Taylor, Paul, Frankie, Paul, Taylor. It's crazy because it's like, oh, like you've never had a season where everyone hated the woman. Well, then there were like rumors that ABC was like, oh, well, they thought it was going to be a bad season. So they rather just like take the loss. There's never a bad season.
25:06People weren't going to watch it. You're always going to make it good. That's what they're professionals as, making sure there's drama even when there isn't.
25:12Hannah Berner: Obviously, I watched the entire season of Mormon. Did they cut her out of it? No, no. No, this was filmed. This was aired. All of the husbands. No. I think Secret Lives of Mormon Wives should be studied in colleges and like during like feminist classes because it's such a great example of all that. And all the men were like, hey, marry us at 22. You're going to stay home. You're going to have a bunch of kids. You're going to keep the house. You're not going to do anything that you've ever dreamt of doing. but it's going to be good because we're going to be married and I'm going to take care of you.
25:48Hannah Berner: All of a sudden, all their wives got famous and rich and they said, hey, remember that idea you had a couple of years ago where I was going to stay home and take care of the kids? Now you have to do it. They're all revolting. Freaking out. They're freaking out. Well, because they all have seven children. Literally one of the husbands sat there and was like, well, I didn't go to med school. why go go do it then what are you talking yeah because your wife makes so much money now that you're chilling and you're gonna sit here and and say to her like you did a video with another guy at disney world dancing oh to promote the dancing show she's on like jesse's husband literally came on and was like our wives don't monopolize the internet like i'm the leader of dad talk no one wants you on our tv yeah i heard they were like dad talks funnier like they actually can't comprehend that people want to watch their wives and not them they can't comprehend that their wives are better at something than they are where instead i mean i would argue what it looks like from the outside at least whitney's husband is the best one is supporting her proud of her and and i would talk this is literal jealousy because it's like even in like a friendship I could be jealous of my friend when something good happens Or I could go that's my best friend And I'm so fucking proud that I'm her best friend If you're not like that though What the fuck is the point Why are you in a relationship with someone Your biggest hater is in your bed I've dated my biggest hater It's fan behavior He was in my bed It's fan behavior And it's truly one of You never go to sleep like peaceful It's truly so anxious Because you're like not only do you like low-key hate me you also low-key want to be me and that's really terrifying because you're like the men coming together it's so like opposition to the women it's literally like us versus you guys and I'm like you've lost the plot marriage is about love and teamwork and like some years someone else picks up this some years this happens like it's about two people who are capable of supporting each other through thick and thin.
28:00There's no star.
28:02Hannah Berner: I've watched so many men and I've watched so many women on television and experienced it. The women can handle the mental load more. They seem to not get as caught up in this is my real life. Like they can separate this is television and this isn't real. The men can't. I've truly watched so many men on reality TV and been like okay but that's not your that's not who you really are this is who you pretend to be on tv and there's gonna come a certain time where the lines are blurred and you're gonna go into a psychosis because who are you I don't think you know who you are and that's really unhealthy I think the longer you stay on reality tv the more your mental health and not from hate like take out like people that hate you it's not even that it's the mental health of filming a television show where you are truly pretending to be somebody that you're not.
28:59Hannah Berner: You're going to come for Taylor Frankie Paul. Let me keep my foot on this man's neck. But you're going to tell Colton that he can be on the number one television show? He was accused and convicted, admitted it. But we're pulling the bachelorette? Please. And Colton stays catching strays. Yeah, I'll never let that go. And when you have a stalker, I'm not kidding, it's you feel... It affects your everyday life. You feel so violated just like being alive because you're like this person is, it's really scary. The traitors too, after they filmed, like you're in this crazy like psychosis. So you'll literally be hanging out with someone and be like, are you a traitor?
29:40And you're like, oh wait, I'm not in that mindset. So when people do reality TV for like 10 years, they start believing.
29:47Hannah Berner: Yeah. Especially when some people are edited to be better than they are. Totally. So if you on TV are edited to be this great husband or this charming, nice guy with that, then the person actually in their real life believes that's who they are. Yeah. And that's when illness happens. And when you have to tell a man, hey, you're not who you think you are. Well, it's crazy to have to tell a man you're not who everyone here thinks you are. Yeah. You're not who the entire public thinks you are. My TikTok is so savage. It said, no one will villainize you more than a person who realizes that you have clocked who they really are.
30:30Hannah Berner: A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Men, I think, can just see how you look at them. Yeah, men know when I don't fuck with them. Men, I mean, men know when I don't fuck with them. It's also like, I'm just disappointed. I've had. I'm not charmed. there's so many men that I've like never been mean to never had words with my demeanor is I don't fuck with you and like you do nothing for me and I've had them go completely off on me like and I'm a guy I haven't even said anything like I trigger my presence and like me being alive triggers you so much I saw a thing that was like if marriage was good for women they would have taken it away from us a long time ago and that's so true i was at the gym the other day literally i'm the only person in there there's one other guy i'm a brag sorry doing 12 3 30 i'm i literally i have my headphones in i turn off my music because i'm like i need to be able to hear if this fucking guy is gonna come up behind me because he had his headphones on and he kept just repeating things I just got freaked out and I was like now I can't even listen to anything because I have to be aware And I literally kept turning my head casually to see like where he was because i'm like In my head i'm like what if he takes a weight and just hits In the back my mom literally came into my brain.
31:55Hannah Berner: I was like he's gonna hit me in the back of my head He's gonna pull me out. And this is why we don't work out. Yeah, like this is why I don't go to the gym I do have to do a shout out. Um, this is our first ever women woman in stem of the week okay there's a girl on tiktok who to keep her burrito closed yeah she used her hair tie and geniuses are all around us you know that's funny because i saw a tiktok the other day and it was a girl being like why don't we use more of our pretty stuff in our everyday lives and it was her using her hair clips your algorithm to like curl up her like headphones no her like charging wires and she just like clipped it with her hair clip and I was like cute and then she like rolled up a bag of chips and she's like a barrette and I was like adorable I was like I'm gonna start using all my pretty things that I like for other purposes well you have so many little trinkets I love a drink I love stuff you love I love my stuff see I hate stuff.
33:00I love stuff. I feel weighed down by stuff. Like every three months I need to like get rid of all my stuff. Like all of it.
33:07Hannah Berner: See I just love getting new stuff and putting it with my old stuff and I love organizing my stuff. That's the thing I don't like to organize my stuff. Makeup stuff with my makeup stuff and my hair stuff. Someone asked me like when's the last time you washed your brushes? I was like when I lose them I get a new brush. Like I've never washed a brush and make a brush wait someone's i think we should do it somebody i don't know if she dm'd me or commented something i can't remember i think she might have dm'd me but she was like i think you and hannah should switch routines for one week like your skin and hair care and just see when i tell you guys i'm not capable like i've seen the military operation that is your skincare hair care i'd have a week off i know like the way it's called you just lying down lie down shower and that's it and then when it's time to go to sleep like fight with yourself about can you brush your teeth or not because you're so tired can i woke up at 6 a.m today and i go hmm maybe i'll do a face mask did a face mask laid on the couch put castor oil and a heating pad on my stomach as i got my period maybe that's why i'm so fired up today yep thanks i got it yesterday so a red moon yeah everyone watch the fuck out you're like we're totally off are we like we're not synced what the hell you want to know what it is i think my body is so sensitive that when i date the wrong person my body truly will reject it so like i legit didn't get my period for like two years i'm not kidding it's like it was actually really scaring me at one point and and i've never been more regular i've never since high school i have not been regular wow i am almost to the fucking day like i had my period legitimately exactly and 28 days ago yes we're into psychics we're into astrology i was about to say we're not woo woo but like i guess we kind of are but sometimes like you're thinking about like what's within like am i eating the wrong thing or whatever look outside of you look at your environment is there a hater in your bed no like you could go to the gym five days a week you could eat all the fucking protein they tell you to work smarter not harder did you know fast growing trees is america's largest and most trusted online nursery with thousands of trees and plants and over two million happy customers they have all the plants your yard and home needs including fruit trees privacy trees flowering trees shrubs and house plants all grown with care and guaranteed to arrive healthy it's like your local nursery but anywhere you live with more plants than you'll find anywhere else.
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40:22Hannah Berner: and I think the Taylor Frankie Paul thing is such a good example of like who you choose to be with is life or death it true like I don't say that lightly like it really is what things about Dakota is a red flag to you that you've seen well he lies so well he's so good at well one he's a good looking guy so he's already is he he's yeah i would say he's subjectively a good looking guy he's got sharp he's got like piercing blue eyes he's got brown hair like he's got good facial features i don't know how tall he is but the truth is is let me be honest the ugliest guys can manipulate you like it doesn't matter if they're good looking or not in the public like the public yeah if you're okay or not is based on looks if you have a decent jawline He lies so impeccably well.
41:18Hannah Berner: It's terrifying. He's so extremely manipulative to everyone around him that you can see him almost be excited that people are believing him. There was a scene where he's sitting with her family, and I'm like, oh my God, he's giddy because he just realized they believe him. And she beats herself down so much because they're like, the worst thing you would ever do is have like a baby with two men like that is one of the most deplorable disgusting things I think I've ever heard in my life that like if a woman has a baby with more than one man you're like you should be crucified like shut up I think you should get um some range let's mix it up the DNA a little bit you can have a little whimsy yeah you can't just risk it all with one guy I think this show is such a good example for like women in their 20s to not get married before 25 yeah we have to i keep forgetting that they're mormons and like well it's just a good thing where good example of like the way they tell you to live is only okay if it's the man well isn't their religion very like the man is the head of the household where if i hear the words head of the household one of their husbands did a confessional and was like look you know our way of life is like that i'm in charge but i'm not gonna do that because i'm a nice guy i'm like shut the fuck up the fact okay that your wife that you an allowance that line first of all you're not a nice guy if you have to say you're a nice guy i'll say it a bazillion times also if you disagree with the way your guys's lifestyle is and your religion then get out yeah if you're still supporting it you support it but yeah that they're breeders the girls are supposed to be breeders so the fact that they're doing other things all the men are going cuckoo bananas yeah because they're not making the men's life lives easier but they are they're bringing in tons of money for them mora higgins did an interview one time and she was talking about how she dated a guy and he said to her like i make your life easier and she said really how and he said to her why carry your bags she was like oh my god how did i live 33 years without you carrying my back like they're so delusional it does remind me when i was in my early 20s this guy was like obsessed with me when i was in my darkest point like i was debating becoming a yoga instructor i was like very lost i was scared i didn't have a purpose i was pretty depressed and i was confused and he was like perfect as i started figuring out what i wanted to do for a living and get career momentum suddenly there's issues yeah and I'm like in my head I'm like oh people like me more when I'm successful yeah Lill's I know that he was actually resenting me more yeah and I wasn't successful is a strong word like I got a job yeah and I was like passionate about it and excelling at it and it's it's just ironic but thank god he acted that way so I could get him out even when we started Giggly Squad I was like seeing someone who was like are you really gonna do this like a little podcast and I was like oh yeah babe just wait for it every now and then Instagram recommends threads to me which is a scary place yeah because some people are like just saying all their inner thoughts which are mostly not healthy but occasionally it's like informative and one girl was talking about how many girls are in their 30s where early 30s or mid 30s where their career isn't where they want it to be yet but they're feeling pressure to have a kid yeah and some of them haven't met a person that they want to settle down with to have a kid here's the other thing you're told like have a kid have a kid get married be a wife and then you do it and then all of society is like ew we hate you so it's like you literally just tricked us into doing something and then you're gonna treat us worse like if someone was like if you have a baby and you get married like people let you sit down on the subway and they treat you with like the utmost respect okay cool then i'll do it they literally treat us worse though they're like why are you working they have a kid they force you to have the kid even if you're like i can't have this kid remember when whitney went and did chicago they were like but you have three kids it's like okay and there's another parent in the home also isn't it so cool that those kids are able to see their mom living her dream like how inspirational and like showing up on broadway and being like that's my mom yeah yeah obviously obviously are we just the only ones who freaking get it like i can't on a lighter note sure i saw a tweet that said i really thought hammerhead sharks would be more relevant when we were growing up they had some like media momentum they were like doing well haven't heard about them like they're out of the limelight completely did they just decide to like go to a farm somewhere like they used to be at every event on the cover it was like really good early 2000s well think about shark week shark week had like really good pr when it first came out people were like canceling plans for shark week yeah because it was cable that's what it was we didn't have streaming and streaming hasn't figured out a way to take shark week over i think like i'm good there is a good documentary about how you can make let's just do more ai dinosaurs yeah sure guys that's exactly how it went down like i mean what was that on netflix we're also at a point where like now the world is so crazy that when i see something i go that's ai and it's not like i'm reverse ai myself i'll be like i'm not gonna send that to anyone that's ai now all i do is watch parrots get haircuts because i'm like is it ai who knows who knows wait is that when they comb it back yeah like so satisfying you like that because he looks italian bob I love a bob on anyone.
47:17Hannah Berner: I can't see bob. I'm like, yeah, all parrots should have a bob. Why wouldn't they? Daphne now ships internationally. Daphne ship it to Canada. But I want to shout out the Canadian girls because they're really the number one girls that were like, please start shipping internationally. And so I was like, we got to work on this specifically for the Canadians. So you can buy Daphne now in Canada. Who did you have to call to get it to Canada? Like, how does that work? katie perry i was like katie can you like talk to that guy and see if like i could just like send some jammies she's like yeah sure but i was it reminded me i was thinking about how hard ice skating is yeah can you ice skate um are you holding the rink on the side can i ice skate i can but i can't i'm not like putting the skates out and just like getting out there like i need like 10 minutes to like regain my my bearings get the vibe like but i took ice skating lessons as a child at some point oh and also albany i feel like i was like kim well it was girl she wanted to see you in a little like oh she loved an outfit like that is so fucking cute now she's a ballerina i'm like how about we sit on the couch i did want to let people know though that my mom was telling me a story and i realized i've been a delusional icon since day one i've never ice skated before and I was like eight years old and I get to the rink in Brooklyn there's rink and I see all the big teenage girls in the middle yeah doing jumps yeah and you're like so I look at my dad and I'm like I want to go over there yeah and he looked at me and he's like you don't know how to ice skate when you learn you can go over there and I go I'm not skating with these fucking losers put me in the middle and let me go and he is my hidden talent or it's not dad let's see he was like you're gonna hurt yourself you're like actually like you'll get tackled like you're not they don't let you like you can't go yeah and I was like I'm not fucking ice skating unless I'm doing flips and he was like this is gonna I fought with my dad for like 30 minutes I'm like I'm not I refuse to learn the basics and I just said I'm a champion I'm going to the Olympics that was so me and then I ended up not doing it because I was like I'm not playing this game it's interesting that you can probably see who your kids are going to become if you really just like take a minute And in that moment, he probably was like, this girl's fucking crazy.
49:39But if you do that with the right thing, like me being like, oh, I'm just going to do stand up in front of 500 people. Yeah. That's mental illness. That's delusion. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. And I found my nut. And then you go. So guys, be delusional if you forgot.
49:57Hannah Berner: That's so funny you say that because my parents were like looking through old pictures the other day. They were like cleaning. I think they were like cleaning out our basement or something. That's the best. that literally make my day. I love a clean out photo session. And I like died for baby dolls. Like I was a mother. Like I didn't play with anything else but a baby doll. You were working three jobs to feed these children. Like Barbies, get out of my face. Like any figurines. I was like, you're stupid. Like Legos are dumb. Like I was a mother. But it's so funny because you're actually terrified of babies now, but I digress.
50:27Hannah Berner: Catch me in my play kitchen whipping up a meal. Like everything then I thought I wanted. You're like the water's boiling. but this is how I was the same. My mom used to say that if my dad came into my playroom and if like I was holding my baby dolls, if he kissed my baby, cause my mom would say that like I used to be, that she'd be like, okay, kiss your baby. Like that's your baby. And I would like kiss my baby. And then if my dad kissed my baby, I would look at my dad and be like, why would you do that? I would get so mad. I'd be like, I'm your baby. This is, you don't know this doll. and that is you in a relationship i'm like why would you text her you don't know did you look at that girl across the street i'm like from a young age you are who you are yeah from a young age i knew i wanted to beat men i knew that they were up to no good speaking of beating men this is why i'm crazy i remember from a young age my dad like always believed in me it was like so proud of me which like brought its own issues but once like some kid was like said he was fast and my dad goes race her he would make me race other boys in the school like that's and at the time that was just my life that was my normal so I'd be like racing another boy and I'd win and then he'd be like yeah my daughter just kicked your boy's ass but that's so funny like he had me racing random kids yeah he's like taking bets on this literally he's like 24 24 and 1 24 I don't talk about this because I like to protect him but my brother's actually like a star he just didn't want the limelight but yeah he was always like the cute one the charming one and I was like hi guys yeah so this is so Brooklyn but we were like playing in the yard and like a gap model scout yeah was like looking for cute kids you know how this is it would have been picked immediately they see my brother who's like blue-eyed gorgeous like not too hyper that's what it was it was the kids that knew how to shut the fuck up is who got picked well that makes me feel better because my mom is talking to my dad like oh daniel got picked um and i'm like did i get picked yeah she couldn't in her heart of hearts tell me i didn't get picked so she lied to me said I got picked they let me wait in the line for photos how sad is that and then I came up and I was like what's up guys and they were like get your daughter okay but what a good example of like amazing parenting on your mom mom's part like you didn't know I didn't know yeah you didn't know that you weren't picked because but she literally had to be like hey casting director can my ugly daughter just like stand in the line and like she won't know yeah and I was clearly chatty Kathy talking to everyone causing disruption and my brother and my brother he didn't want the stardom but everyone wanted him yeah and I was just in the background racing random people I never knew rejection either like when I did that at model like I my mom never told me if I didn't get something she'd be like they canceled it like well she goes modeling is over Yeah, she'd be like, you get to go to your Girl Scout meeting because they canceled it.
53:48Hannah Berner: And I'd be like, amazing. Like, I didn't know. Well, it's good for kids to have adversity, but it's bad for them to just like get their confidence hurt for like a stupid reason. Like an agent liking a blonde better than you. Here's the other thing. This just made me think of it with the Taylor Frankie Paul thing. People are like so going against her and rightfully so because they're like there was a child in the video. so the adult that leaked the video also has a child with this woman so him leaking that video he didn't doesn't give a fuck what damage is done to that little girl now that that video is out for the rest of her life and I hope that they can fucking heal and I hope that the kid can be okay I think they should air the bachelorette yeah I mean I don't get why they wouldn't well also when they started this it was because she went on tiktok and was telling everyone that all her friends are fucking each other's husbands like let's just remember where it started it wasn't her being like she's always been doing things that are the first episode of the entire show is her getting arrested like for domestic violence people have showed me like there's been so many physical altercations on reality tv that everyone just kind of was like that's iconic like ron ronnie and sammy would beat the shit out of each other there's so many physical altercations that also happened that vanderpump there's been oh yeah because they're like this can't air but like that happened you just see people people's reactions yeah but a woman will get more in trouble for something she said than a man will for something he did and a woman can say the same thing that a man said and be more in trouble are you kidding a hundred percent verbatim verbatim verbatim a lot of like nice boyfriends have been coming to my shows lately that's nice like they want to be made fun of yeah they are they are getting tickets for the girls they're coming together like there's gigglers have been finding good partners i believe yeah i mean giggly squad shows remember like whenever we pick on a guy we're always like yeah we're like actually this one was boring because you're so nice yeah yeah exactly well anyway I ordered Hannah's Duncan today you did why'd you get me a juicy peach because because that's your nickname yeah okay Hannah literally I saw juicy peach and I was like that's Hannah and then I saw glam berry and I was like that's me that's your aura that's our auras you guys thank you for giggling with us I'm in Ohio all weekend so check that and Salt Lake City so I'll if any Mormons oh thank you Duncan for sponsoring this episode and keeping us hydrated bye
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