


6 Feb 2026 · 54m · 25 chapters

In this episode of the Giggly Squad podcast, hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo share hilarious anecdotes from their personal lives, including Paige's recent botox mishap, Hannah's upcoming tour, and their playful banter about various topics like fashion, pop culture, and mental health.
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Discussion about a recent Botox experience and family reactions.
“You know, I was going to ask you that today because I was like, wait, she's been like pretty good mentally.”
Exploring the dynamics of their friendship and shared experiences.
“He called me, FaceTimed me immediately up.”
Discussion on mental health tips and the use of Altoid sours.
“I hate when people are like, we can't tell you what's happening when there's stuff going on.”
Exploring the concept of tuning forks and their alleged healing properties.
Hosts discuss creating a welcoming environment for guests.
Conversations about perceptions, truths, and being seen as a villain.
Explore the idea that everyone has their own truth and perspective in relationships.
“villain in other people's stories not everyone gets the same version of me at all like girl And it goes according on how you treat me.”
Learn how empathy plays a role in understanding others' experiences and feelings.
Discuss the resilience of athletes and their experiences with injuries.
Examine the dynamics of family relationships and differing generational views.
Discuss how cultural acceptance has evolved and the role of family support.
Engage in a debate about the functionality and design of sports bras and tank tops.
Explore the hosts' experiences as fans of Vanderpump Rules and their admiration for Sheena Shay.
The hosts share their opinions on the relevance of the Grammys and their relationship with music.
Discussion about public knowledge of Puerto Rico and the societal implications of misconceptions.
“Like, I know my strengths and I know my weaknesses.”
Debate over the glam bot and the creative pressures faced by artists in the industry.
“I don't want to, like, get into the drama because, you know, we hate drama.”
Examine the dynamics of gender in photography and the expectations placed on female photographers.
“They'd be like, OK, for like 200K, you know, something crazy.”
Hosts critique fashion choices at award shows and reflect on the meaning of accolades.
Discussion on Justin Bieber's career trajectory, struggles, and the reality of the music industry.
Encouragement to maintain personal creativity despite external opinions and pressures.
Explore how different emotional responses shape our experiences and interactions.
Discuss the significance of fashion choices and personal expression at public events.
“Like, I kind of just want to like laugh a little bit more.”
Dive into recent reads and the excitement of starting a book club.
“How does it feel to finish your first book?”
Investigate the trend of disappearing texts among Gen Z and its implications.
“If I say the name of like what I'm reading, it's like this is a book club.”
Examine the nature of conversations in male group chats and their social dynamics.
“My assistant will go on my phone or I'll hand over my phone and be like, put your number.”

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0:29What's up, gigglers? It's Gorgon. And also real quick housekeeping. The day after Valentine's Day, February 15th, I'm going to be in Long Island. Strong Island, Westbury, get tickets. I'm going. I have two more months left in the tour and then I'm retiring. So. Yes, honey. I can't wait to retire. I record the special in four weeks. It's starting. You know, I was going to ask you that today because I was like, wait, she's been like pretty good mentally. but that certainly got a change in a couple weeks right any i wake up every day like is it gonna hit me like that i'm gonna be like a nervous wreck not today yet not today i don't know i have my gigglers what else do you need i have my gorgonzola what do i need totally how are you um
1:17i'm still a little under the weather but nothing um too crazy i did have you know obviously a facial reconstruction situation the past couple of days and i went into my botox girl and she was like hey you know i thought you were going to be more mad about this and i was like here's the thing my group chats they loved it my mom she loved it she was like content was incredible the content was superb and i was really making everyone's day yeah the one person that did not think my Botox mishap was funny for a second was my dad. Gary. He called me, FaceTimed me immediately up. Whoa, what's this I'm hearing?
2:10That you can't move your lips. Let me look at you. Don't talk. Let me look at you. My mom FaceTimed. I'm not speaking. He's examining my face. He goes, okay. The good news is you don't look fucked up to me. he goes i don't have my reading glasses but you look beautiful he goes now talk let me see okay not bad not bad and then he goes you know everyone thinks it's so funny i don't think this is funny page this is your face you know you've got the perfect face i'm like dad this is why you're my day one this is why you aren't going into a home when you are of age he's like i made you perfectly genetically why would you try to change so this was the second time you did botox and you had a little kerfuffle a little kerfuffle does it scare you at all are you like i have nothing to be afraid of i survived here's the thing i really trust my girl i think she's extremely good at her job she could poke my eye out and i'm like she did it for a reason she was like actually you'd look better like this and it is only the second time i've gotten it so like everyone's face is a little bit different and so like things go awry now if i had gotten filler or something i'd be freaking out but even if she paralyzed the whole bottom half of my face which sounds peaceful yeah it sounds nice to take a little voice rest um it would be gone in two months anyway so like i wasn't really freaking out the only reason i was freaking out i was i was like Like, honey, I'm a woman in STEM.
3:47I've got things coming up. I've got places to be. People are going to be looking at my face. You're playing in the Super Bowl. Like, things are happening. No, like, I literally am suiting up for the game. I hate when people are like, we can't tell you what's happening when there's stuff going on. But basically, Paige and I were shooting something yesterday that was very fun. But we spent a lot of time together yesterday. We had a proper time. time we were like obsessed with each other for the last 24 hours we were together from 11 a.m really 10 30 till like 6 p.m you facetimed me the night before for a full hour and afterwards i was like this could have been a podcast and once you do hit a flow state with your friend it's actually really hard to stop and you have to beat it you have to beat the last piece of gossip you have to start making up shit like i don't even have strong opinions on things and i'm like you know what i think and hannah and i had this song we were like wait are we gonna be 80 and like talk about this like obviously like i feel like there's a canon event in our friendship that like no matter what we go back to that moment and like it could be like a completely separate conversation so i'm just wondering like at 75 am i gonna be like well you know a hundred percent now this is also people have told me this is how i am like i have a little amnesia because i love telling stories and people i'll tell a full story they're like you literally just told me that but like yeah you enable me where like you know how much fun i have beating a dead horse from different sides and angles like you break a bat you pick up another one and you keep going sorry pita but you see my husband he's like i'm not talking about this with you again you you look at me like you've never even heard this subject before you say wait wait what wait what you said you get some popcorn you go what is this what is this thing that we've been talking about so i know i'm a great friend to have because i forget and i'm like wait i don't remember that can you like elaborate and i truly do forget so many things so it's like you're telling it to me for the first time and i'm like wow news update altoid sours are back and that's our mental health moment if you're having a panic attack or whatever the girls what do they call it nowadays crashing out if you're having a crash attack take an altoid sour and it can help i have heard that that helps but like don't like do it and then it not work and blame me like talk to a doctor if you're having like a lot of panic attacks but wait speaking of things that help panic attacks to my dismay i talked about buying tuning forks on the last episode of giggly squad and i was like everyone's gonna be in my dms and be like what the hell is a tuning fork no one no one even asked this thing they're like she's definitely lost it no one like no one even wanted a single person broach the subject you know what we're gonna just leave it you're trying to bring back the dead and then i'm like wait a minute so not one giggler's on my side of tiktok with the goddamn tuning forks and i was like noted i'm always and consistently looking for things that will lower my cortisol levels and heal my body in some type of way that I don't know that it's unhealed is the vibrational plate working Hannah the vibrational plate was so three months ago I was but you know me I'm like finally getting around to it I'm like okay I've seen it for two years no I mean obviously I still have it and I do it every once in a while I was on a really good regimen but honestly it's like how many things can I do but I love doing all of them um okay my tuning forks is basically like no one asked that's what i'm fucking telling you guys i'm actually i'm livid is it like a weapon i mean it probably could be so it could double for women but you basically like hit this thing and then the vibration and the sound is so it's like the conspiracy theory that like the government got rid of all the bells because like massive bells in towns would heal the inside of people's bodies because of like the vibration you're not on that conspiracy you've never seen that conspiracy theory no i'm not on conspiracy tiktok you go you know i'm like bell conspiracy i'm like surely you know about the bell where'd all the bells go we don't know no i there's like this big conspiracy theory that like there used to be bells that would tell everyone what time it was because obviously we didn't have phones and shit like that in like every town and then slowly like they became obsolete or whatever and they took them away but they were saying that they were very healing for your body and that they should have never been taken away and i wonder if like whoever was in charge of the bells like they're like running late one day and they're like don't worry i fucking run the bells okay like we're good it's like a guy like impressing a girl on a date he's like how about everybody wakes up an hour late tomorrow i have that power i do the bells that's all i would do i'm kind of i love that i am obsessed though with like instead of you going to like some yoga wellness retreat you're trying to create one in your own home totally but with no like actual guidance you are on to something because like the minute i hear someone like has to come stay at my apartment or like you know they're doing like a little a stint in new york and like my room is like where they've chosen to stay i really do try and make it seem like a spa experience you have a daphne robe in your bathroom you've got candles you have a welcome bag of like did you forget moisturizer don't worry here's some and it's all yours take it with you on your way out because kim de sorbo raised you right and i'm just i'm very big on that and then i'm like i'm a cult curator yeah you also have a little kinder bueno by the side of you must have a small chocolate before you lay your head down can we discuss when you went into my apartment yesterday you know i'm i'm proud of you for even bringing this up on the pod i have nothing to hide i'm an open wound i was meeting hannah yesterday and we were early and so i was like i'll just stop by your apartment we'll have a quick coffee together and then we'll go and do what we have to do and i walked into her apartment and i literally thought she had been robbed i was like someone's come here and open all your cabinets why did someone walk in and just leave your cabinets open i really felt like i'd walked into a fraternity room i'm like you actually used the the word disaster that was the first word that came out of your mouth this place is this place is scary now my perspective i woke up i said okay the apartment looks good but let's tidy up just a little more because page is coming and i'm putting stuff away i'm like and you said that to me too you said i actually tidied this is the same thing that happens with my mom i will tidy up for 30 minutes and she comes in and she's like this is disgusting i'm like if only you saw it because you want to know what you tidy what's important to you i don't need all the hot sauces in a straight line in the refrigerator that does nothing for me that's like the kind of things you tidy i'm like oh god simultaneously though simultaneously dez had to go to my apartment quickly for something and he called hannah after him what did he say hannah he said you know you know page is extremely tidy and i said yes she's italian and he said so are you and i said let's not change the subject i give him a complimentary gift basket on the way out so tell your friends if you were a man and you slept with women you would definitely be so controlling you'd give them a gift basket when they left i'd be so i'd be awful as a man i'd be so manipulative because as a woman or maybe you wouldn't be because you wouldn't have to manipulate because you're a man as a woman i use my manipulation tactics for good i better people's lives you know it's a coping mechanism to manipulate because god forbid you just say what you want and you're a bitch no you can't say what you want as a woman where men will say what they want and people are like i have to disguise that yeah you have to do a spell i planted things in men's head that they haven't realized for a full year and then one day they're like and that's the power of page it's really scary it's the tuning if i had chosen an evil route it would i it would be scary there was a tuning fork in the road and you chose good over evil i was one i was one decision away from being evil it was one more man that fucked me over i would have gone in a crazy different route but i also argue in someone's story you are evil oh a lot of people i'd say a lot of people sorry no you know what's so funny about like even saying that is like yeah obviously in the world there are people out there that are like i i fucking hate page or like i fucking hate hannah oh don't bring me into this no and i'm saying this for like the gigglers too like obviously there's people at your office or like in your town that's like in their in their place of work sorry they're all over you have to be aware stay alert no i really i sound like the dance mom's thing you're blonde you're pretty you're saying nobody hates you like open your eyes no look at that there's definitely people that are gonna hate you my response always is and this is how like i mean you can say this verbally to people but this is how you have to think about it yeah no shit i'm gonna be the villain in other people's stories not everyone gets the same version of me at all like girl And it goes according on how you treat me.
14:21I go based off your energy. I do have to say one thing about me and you. We never start it. Oh, we're not starters. We're not starters. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I haven't started anything in years. We're not proactive. We're just reactive. We are purely reactive. Mental health moment continuing. What I've realized in my 30s is, yes, you can be a villain in other people's stories, but also there are multiple truths to a story which in my past i've definitely been like i was there i know what happened that's my truth but then you have to empathize and be like yeah but they're seeing it through their experience and you have to respect their truth even though it's wrong and then big emphasis on that though big empathy empathy and then also when people used to tell me in my 20s and early 30s not to take things personally and that never fucking made sense I'd always be like, okay, then why'd they say my name?
15:17Okay, then why'd they say it to my face? Okay, why did they say everything about me to my face and make it about me? Okay, but why did they say it was personal? Yeah, why did they say my social security number? And then I realized nothing's personal. They're just seeing, they're just reflecting their shit onto you. You're just a representation in their video game of their solo player. It's not about you. you're just you're just not about you babe it's not about you and that brings you sanity when you think people actually like like you just represent something to them it's not actually you well i one of the best ways i feel like to learn that too is someone said something to me i don't even know who it was and this is like years ago and they were just like oh well you and your brother didn't have the same experience growing up because yeah and I was just like well no we yeah we did we had the same parents he was there and he was and the person was like well no his experience was obviously different your parents were a different age when they had him like you didn't have the same they didn't treat him the same and what and I was like what like what do you mean and that's so true and once like I feel like you grasp that it's easier to bring it into like your friendship no and i really when something was personal with me and someone would say don't take it personally i literally was like i don't comprehend that because i don't attack people personally unless they attack me personally unless they deserve it unless they deserve it um also i was really laughing about you talking about how you had like a horrible flu and like men would go to the hospital and you had a full week of work and it really reminded me of literally one of my busiest weeks of work i feel like you've never gotten more done and it truly reminded me of lindsey vaughn who so if by the way the thing with professional athletes and like shack talks about it too like men talk about it they get these huge contracts and then they like sprain their ankle and they're just on the bench getting paid millions of dollars with a sore knee right so anyway lindsey vaughn decides i'm gonna fucking come back and win gold so she's in all the like pre-olympic tournaments and she's winning everything and everyone she's 41 and everyone's like this is insane lindsey vaughn's a grace of all time of course the universe doesn't want to make it easy for her and she completely ruptures her acl i see this notification because we're a sports podcast i have to stay updated on current sports events right and i was like holy fuck she's done like i feel terrible for her next article lindsey von still going to the olympics skiing with the torn acl she said fuck that acl put a cast on it what fuck do i care she goes give me a band-aid let's go so apparently there are other ligaments in your leg but the acl connects your shin and your thigh or something like it's dangling as someone did a project on the acl in seventh grade she's fucked her leg is fighting for its life literally lindsey vondt's not just like walking with a torn acl she's going like a hundred miles per hour down an icy hill and jumping and landing and and twisting you know when i saw the headline and not to make it about me but hey it was inside my own brain so what was i supposed to do um the only thing i could think of was the other day on giggly squad you literally said you've never run a mile like you've never done an athletic thing in your life and this woman was like literally put a band-aid on it you stupid bitch she literally looked at the new york times and said it's mental wait do you want to know the funniest thing about that is peak during my like colds that i've had i'm on facetime with my parents and my dad goes honestly it's mental my mom's never my mom has never whipped her head faster oh really was it mental two weeks i was like I just walked into something that I'm like not privy to and I actually have to go wait that's so funny when your parents get into like random little tiffs and when you live with them when you're younger you're a part of it you've seen every scene up until that point so you know but when you're just facetiming you're like whoa whoa whoa I need to hear both of the backgrounds before I pick sides it's kind of crazy there is something that happens when you get into your 30s where you're like I have to have my mom's back against these men all these years she's been like literally surviving on her own so then when your mom has your back on something that's very female adult female focused you're like say it louder mom say it louder yeah so that's where me and my mom are at right now we're just like ruining my dad and my brother's lives like at all times we're like we stay on their necks like that's the only way i can describe it see what's funny is my brother always takes me at my mom's side and my dad's always just like accepts he my dad accepts that he's not gonna win so it actually is like a very high functioning situation no like i think my brother is probably so disassociated because like if he does something and then it's like back-to-back call from me or my mom like dreaming him out about something like i could see someone going into a full psychosis like that is so scary he finishes kim and then he sees you coming what is he like i think back to like boyfriends and like i didn't even really fully grasp like how diabolical my mom could be until i got older and i was like i can't believe she said that to someone like in our home that i was like sleeping with you know that is crazy but now i think back and i'm like good you know what actually go harder bringing back nana which by the way she's become famous on stage now on my shows everyone's like justice for nana like people are are like riding you know what i was thinking about nana too and i have something to say after this well all i was gonna say is what's cool about nana is she's grown and learned so much in her life and like she's italian catholic you know grew up in a as we know in a tough situation in brooklyn in a ditch somewhere no heating no water nana um nana was religious and i was like 18 and they were visiting and my boyfriend was like staying over and she was like okay where is where is he sleeping my mom was like in her bed like wait how old were you 18 okay but i also was different than you like as we know like your mom was like like please don't get a fucking tongue piercing tonight like my mom was like hey do you want to maybe go to a party and like see what happens and i'm like no mom i'm trying to be a professional tennis player lenore was my dream like yeah maybe i'll give it a try she literally looked at nana was like hannah got a boyfriend we're very happy my parents were like did you sneak out i'm like no why would i do that when this house is so free i could go and come as i please why would i sneak out kim is like why couldn't page have met a nice girl like hannah in high school she would have kept her inside they would have stayed inside and talks about the same subjects yeah i well i had well i guess yeah my friends were all like sporty and like scared of cocaine too so but anyway my nana at first she was like upset at first my nana was upset but then she was like oh i guess that's what the kids are doing these days and she immediately was non-judgmental happy she learned also like i don't think we're having sex like we were well do you ever see videos of like people that come out but their grandparents or parents are like of such a different generation and they're so nervous and the grandparents are like it's fine like i don't care some of these old people they're they're learning and growing and seeing things um and and nano like very early on immediately was like but she's in the know she's been in the know yeah she's like hipping with it and like well uncle johnny famously came out as gay and they were afraid your uncle i feel like you have to give context my uncle everyone has a gay uncle johnny when i said uncle johnny came out as gay everyone listening was like yes you don't have a gay uncle john you know it's like a funny running bit in my family that i just realized like if you say if you say anytime in my household like oh i think they might be gay anyone at any time will say well don't tell page she thinks everyone's gay that's that's what my family says about me and i said well and i'm like and where's the lie where's why no one's proven me wrong nope not a single person just every day the world gets gayer god it's not becoming un-gay thank god thank god hi gaglers okay this is like a debate like a hot debate happening online do you think sports bras or sports tank tops or tank tops in general should have padding sewn in or should they have a place to take out the padding i'm so glad you're asking me as president of the small boob community let me just tell you the general arguments some people online are saying i hate that it falls out it's like why even have an opening i don't and then they're all over the place and then some people are like i don't always want them in so i don't want them sewn in I think the padding look as someone who has literally zero boobs if I put a sports bra on that's like a size too small it is so tight and like I look like a flat like board so I enjoy having a little padding because I'm like oh at least it gives like a little curvature but if I had larger boobs I could so see how you're like get the I don't need any more padding I want to take this out I think you should have the option to take it out and put it back in kind of like the same with bathing suits and for the first time ever in the history of giggly squad I agree with you right with you 100 all your points are so valid because I as you know have a perfect seat cup you have a perfect rack perfect rack that no one talks about because I don't talk about it yeah because I don't want people to get uncomfortable and treat me differently yeah but um when I have a padded bra I suddenly feel like I have boobs and you know I don't want to have boobs and i'm over here buying the skims nipple bra every chance i get according to the fucking library i also think when i wear i feel like i'm wearing victoria's secret push-up bras whenever i have anything with padding on and i think everyone's staring at my boobs and i think if someone like punched me in the boob i wouldn't feel it do you remember those push-up i was just gonna say like a bombshell like when those first came out i was like that was a football uniform like i could tackle a motherfucker oh i kind of miss that era of me like an abercrombie shirt and like a victoria's secret pink push-up bra that i like begged my mom to get yeah that was like eight inches of padding and it was like up to your chin shoot i was just gonna say something now i forget wait with the victoria's secret bra too um what was i gonna say why did we just get It's so dumb at the same minute.
27:18Like, I literally feel like I just passed out and came to and I'm like, I feel like I'm high, but I'm not. It's just the morning. It's 1 30. Are you ever like with your friend and like you truly have talked about anything. And so then you're like, so I guess that's what's going on. well me and you are weird because we'll we will talk over each other for 20 minutes straight and then be silent on our phones for 10 minutes but not have any transition like no one's like i'm gonna go look at my phone now it's like suddenly it's just actually you literally yesterday i called you fully sheena shay because i was mid-conversation suddenly i hear and i'm like okay vanderpump rule season two it's my favorite thing when you call me sheena like when i'm on my phone because i just like i i love it so much i think it's so funny no i love the sound of my nails on people don't talk enough about being a vanderpump rules fan and one day being in an elevator with sheena shay and watching her text and hearing it and just feeling like you're watching michelangelo paint whatever he painted sheena shay was like the first bravo liberty to be nice to me i feel like and like want me to come on her podcast like she was the first like she was the first one celebrity podcast i did yeah and she was continually nice to us through the ups and downs yes yes consistent she was consistent say what you want about sheena shay here at giggly squad we respect her and we she brought me to her green room when she was on watch robin's live and i was like oh my god i like watched her get glam and wait that is so sweet it was yeah she's iconic um i would bring up the grammys but like does anyone care anymore is it like two years ago do you have any hot takes you know did you watch them you know the grammys is one award show that i never care about i don't know why well you hate music no you've fully publicly stated it's your arch nemesis no i don't know i don't yes you do yes you do you hate musicals you hate music you hate children laughing laughing well i hate children laughing no i hate musicals i love music i just when i'm home by myself i'm putting a tv show on so i don't have the same relationship with music during the day that other people do because i love entertainment in the arts of yes movie scripted telling a story in that sense storytelling here's what i will say i'm so fucking excited for bad bunny to do the halftime performance when i did see the clip of him winning i thought it was just like so you want to know what i feel the same way about for about bad bunny that i do about fernando like they have such um who's fernando fernando my my football player come on first name basis fernando isn't that his name who's fernando fernando who won the miami game that i'm obsessed oh sorry i was you're on college football you have to keep up okay i thought you got another cat or something i was like who's fernando you know who fernando is and stop acting like you don't okay fern yes fernie i feel the same way about them because there's something so pure about their reactions to them themselves doing a good job do you know what i mean it's he's authentically happy and you they're showing photos of him when he was 16 bagging groceries and like to see people's dreams come alive also for him to remind people that puerto rico is in america no let's just i'm so confused by that there was a lot of confusion there is a lot of confusion look i I don't classify myself as smarter than anyone.
31:27Like, I know my strengths and I know my weaknesses. But when I saw that, like, people being like, where's Puerto Rico? I was like, surely I'm not the smartest one on the internet right now. Like, that's really scary. Well, you're for sure not the dumbest one on the internet. And that's been proven. I don't want to, like, get into the drama because, you know, we hate drama. But tell me everything. Cole the glam bot guy. Where is he? what did they do with him nowhere to be found and then i thought he invented the glam bot i'm like how are you getting rid of the inventor it was cole and the glam bot i didn't know you could get the glam bot without cole wait let's start start the story from the beginning okay apparently apparently there's an email going around from 2019 now whenever this stuff happens it makes me feel like it's a it's a hit it's like a someone like is sitting on someone someone was coming for him for some reason i don't know why but um that's why you have to have a private investigator like on call at certain times i guess a bride asked him like can i do a glam bot at my wedding which is like it's totally valid iconic good for her like woman in the arts and i guess he kind of was like you can't afford me or he gave her like an insane number which honestly you're running your business I know people who are like super busy and someone will ask her to do something and she'll be like yeah for a crazy amount and well it's kind of like hairstylist and makeup artist like yes yeah maybe they start out doing weddings but then they start doing like other things and like things that pay that aren't as time consuming whatever and you just like you grow your business So like I get if you were a celebrity hairstylist and some random person was like, do my wedding.
33:15They'd be like, OK, for like 200K, you know, something crazy. So I actually didn't even see the email, but this is what I I think I heard online. So take it out with a grain of salt. But I didn't know it became like a thing. I thought it was going to be about J-Lo. The glam bod is a humiliation ritual. It never goes well. I asked you. You said you did it once. Like, was it scary? literally terrifying because you like freeze up because you're like i need every angle of me to look good and then you look frozen and then it's like a mosquito coming at you select few people that are really good at it though but like i feel like they've done it multiple times they know what to expect yeah also under pressure i'll crack doing anything like tell me to say my name and i'll say it wrong so like i can't imagine and then also like you not only have your have to have your face right you have to have your teeth right and your hair right and you're and you're fucking holding in your fucking stomach and your boobs yeah you have to be in a dress that's conducive to like twirling and it's does he tell you what to do yes he's he's so nice directing he's basically like this is what's gonna happen this is and you're gonna do this and we can do it again if you don't like it and like you look amazing and he's a very nice person so basically his so his email gets like starts getting circulated from 2019 and then i guess he's not at the grammys and this is where it gets real spicy people are saying now that a woman was behind the camera and that everyone's glam bot was better and i said you know what that tracks a straight man should never be involved with photography wait no straight man should ever be behind a camera we've all seen what happens they're they're moving they're talking they don't understand angles maybe someone was like this guy doesn't support women you know there i feel like there aren't many positions where women have and they've replaced them with men and it's gone better but there are so many positions that men have had that they've been replaced with women and there's so many things that is obvious women will be better at or like at least they tell women like like even like cooking but like men are the chefs yeah make that make sense news anchors who's good at gossiping us why is a man telling me what happened in the world right they don't get a single detail and then a photographer there's it's always a fucking photographer man with like shooting models and stuff and if you're a famous male photographer yes i'll shoot with you however that's bonkers i want a woman behind the lens who's gonna be like move your hair i would never do like a sexy photo shoot with a guy on some of these sets that are more like male gazey like playboy and stuff there's men involved because they're like what do you guys think looks good because a gay guy thinking something looks good is very different than a man well like it looks good something that's being sold to men yeah i'm gonna get that it's just like a bunch of dudes being like yeah it's hot but like if it's being sold to women no why would i want a guy there what does he know no like it's kind of like with the real housewives when the husbands get involved it's like okay sit down that's it down the grammys i loved um i hope cole is okay not being held hostage somewhere no one said anything about him um real quick the guy who sang ordinary and he performed on jimmy fallon one night when we were there he was there yeah and so he had some trouble with his ear things and tic tac was funny they're like considering that your things have one job to do they never work like can no one invent an ear thing that works oh like he couldn't hear himself when he couldn't hear himself so for like a short part of the song he was singing at the wrong time like the beat was like very off but then he recovered really well and then afterwards he posted a tiktok being like guys this is what i was hearing and it sounded like crazy echoes um but he did great i think my best dress was olivia dean i didn't like i don't know why i never like i think because the grammys is you can do really whatever you want you can wear whatever you want to the grammys because i feel like it's musicians are like but they weren't as insane as like the vmas you know the vmas they do get because they're yeah the musicians are more like artists like yes where i think i like the oscars and like the sag and like golden globes because i'm like there's it's a black tie dress code yes like i want to see what you came up for black tie dress code justin bieber people were aghast that he wore boxers i thought that was very on brand for jesse weber if he didn't if he was always aghast at him and him what him and hayley are doing i'm so over it i'm so over people hating on him and hayley how about when she looked in the camera and she went like that with her she does have you fingers she has long fingers like you has royalty fingers she's royalty fingers well she famously went on tiktok one day and was just like i don't say anything i don't do anything and you guys yell at me every day and i don't know what to do like so insane to her it's so fucking weird but not to be dramatic i like got teared up when he was singing because i hate when people are misunderstood and i hate when people lose themselves hate when people are misunderstood i hate when they are there's injustice i hate when people are on the wrong path you hate when things are point blank period unfair i that is my it enrages you i hate when things are unfair and i feel like he blew up and because he was so fucking talented he was like eyes closed four years old playing the drums singing perfect pitch whatever bullshit yeah and then he becomes the biggest person in the world and everyone's like starts making fun of him and then he's singing and everyone's like did you guys know justin bieber could sing yeah it's not fucking luck that he became one of the greatest singers of his generation and every girl in the world was obsessed with him it's not just because he had a weird haircut so anyway it was just like beautiful to see him come out of it all no i think he has like a really crazy story that is like so not even scratch of the surface told and i think he's such a talented person yeah and his documentary when we're in like our 60s is gonna be so fucking banging and his son is probably gonna like produce it and like i can't wait for it but i do have to say award shows are like insane sabrina carpenter didn't win anything and she's literally like just the most relevant artist of this year like that's not controversial that's so crazy she got nominated for like six or eight things and just sat there and lost every single award and it made me realize like they only give the best new artist award to some so many people and like if you happen to be in a really good year you won't get it and how like in the year 2000 christina christina aguilera won um and britney spears lost her so like britney spears was later 2000 being like i'm a fucking loser and it's like sabrina i just need to let you know these awards don't mean shit you're perfect keep going i feel like they take them with a grain of salt no no that's all your industry is is these stupid fucking awards like that's that's what the that's true that's all like they i think some people are probably better at being like it's stupid well to everyone who's a creative listening which is all the gigglers women of the arts and the gigglers someone gave me good advice one day and they said the second you let other people's opinions affect your creativity is when they win so the second you're like i'm not going to post this i'm not going to write this i'm not going to express myself because i'm afraid of other things then they win also further fucking more i'm on a mental health kick we haven't said further fucking more in a minute in a minute we it was needed yeah that hit you're welcome thank you a moment for further fucking more um is that it's your decision on how to react to things so like this is not relatable at all but losing a grammy you could literally make that ruin your year and be like everyone thinks i'm a loser i lost a or you literally can choose to be like i don't give a fuck about this and that's what life is about and it's it seems like you're cheating or it seems like you're like suppressing things but like no it's actually like two things can happen to the same person to the same thing can happen to two people and it's just how they relate to it that makes people either successful or stuck in their head you can also do apply that to like when you have rage like you go and let me speak from the angry portion of the night
42:27oh my god i forget that you're doing devil's advocate hannah is the angel and i'm the devil let me speak from that side you're going if you have a short little temper i think people don't realize that i do have like one of the craziest tempers but you only like you don't let it out a lot no no not with me she goes i say oh no honey people i love because i'm never mad when i'm around you and you've never done a single thing for me to like be like i fucking hate that i have to freak out yeah you're like my joy you're my peace but i like i've seen you very worked up about things which actually i love actually last night when we left each other i was like kind of wanted to call you last night because I was just like, oh my God, we had so much fun laughing all day.
43:17Like, I kind of just want to like laugh a little bit more. But were you like, oh, I called her the night before and she's going to be like, wow, this girl's like... No, what are we going to talk about? We've literally talked about everything. Like, I have to go to bed. Wait, that's so sweet of you. I love Chapel Roan's dress. Oh, Mrs. Fake Nipples doesn't like a nipple dress. That's what I want to see, though. That's the kind of creativity I want to see on the carpet. Look, you know how I feel about Gen Z. We're very tumultuous. Like we have certain things that I'm just like, I don't fucking vibe with you guys.
43:47And then there are other things where I'm like, Gen Z, go. Yeah, you got this girl. Like, yes, we're behind you. Hopefully no one stepped on it. I mean, what was she going to do if there was just like a jam up on the red carpet and someone accidentally stepped on it? Obviously, it was a prosthetic. If someone stepped on it, that's called viral, baby. It's called content. I don't know. My whole thing is like you have anxiety. well this is why i'm obsessed with chapel rome because the interview before she looks at the woman and the woman's like are you okay and she's like this is the scariest part of the night because everyone is taking photos of you and you don't know where the photos are gonna go mind you her she's like has a cape on still and she's like i'm just scared and i'm walking looking at her i'm like poor thing i hope she just goes inside and like gets to sit down and and eat something and everyone's nice to her and then two seconds later she's on the carpet whip those titas out and like here's my hard nipple don't look at it and she's like and if anyone raises their voice
44:53she's testing them yeah i'm like i i feel like as though i'm in a pickle here you know what she is she's like a cat when a cat lies on its back and you're like your belly's so cute can i touch it and the cat's like yeah touch it see what happens see what happens and they're like well why would you show to me if you she's like say one thing about my nipple dress i freaking dare you i actually i want you to that's why i wore it and then she gave her she announced her award um and she was like clearly didn't want to be there like i've had a dream like that where i'm like and i forgot my shirt like my nipples are out and like and i'm just acting casually i'm like nothing's going on here like that was her red carpet was my worst nightmare like you forgot your shirt I think I liked it too because she's a lesbian So she's like showing her boobs Not for the male gaze That is so true It's not for the male gaze But hers was like actually A dress showing your Topless And you know the men were like huh Which I kind of loved Because it was like a ring hanging from it Yeah the guys were confused and uncomfortable Okay but that's a perfect example of like If men are confused and uncomfortable but let me disart but also it's a perfect example of like that is a different type of like fashion vibe where i'm like okay i'm like i can't compare that look to like when zendaya walks on the carpet for the oscars like that is a moment in my soul that like it's very different should i get short bangs no okay i just want to throw it out there wait can i show you everything yet oh home at no i was i'm about to shoot my special you know i'm freaking out what are you doing so bad what are you doing there was like a really cool there was the one girl who worked at the supreme store who didn't bully me and she had these little like to hear so she was so cool no they've put in the time and the effort to deserve those bangs they've seen some shit they're not for you okay oh my god if i go to the salon they'll be like i could see you with a wispy bang though that ends here and then like your first layer starts here and you just go down i'll see but i'm putting in that out there one thing at a time speaking of art do you know that kid cuddy is currently painting he's become a painter and he goes by the name scotty ramone and now I kind of know what I want for my future.
47:25You want to become an artist? I'm going to be a painter. It goes by a different name. Speaking of art, I finished my book. How does it feel to finish your first book? It feels really good and I ordered another one. Well, do you want to tell them what you're reading? Are you scared to start a book club? No, I'm literally scared. Like I said, I wouldn't do this. This is a book club now. Like I just started it. If I say the name of like what I'm reading, it's like this is a book club. Okay, I read Verity because it's Italian
47:56she read the menu to an Italian restaurant
48:04you actually don't know how funny that is because in Italy one of our favorite restaurants the name of it is like La Verde sometimes those menus are big and you're like certainly you can't be doing all this correct like all of this is good when we were on reality TV we went to a restaurant once and people took photos and we all were looking at the menu and someone was like they're reading scripts off these menus i remember that and i was like i was um okay i read verity which um anne hathaway is going to be in the movie that's why i read it because i was like oh i can't wait i want to see that movie and then the book i ordered um it's called nightingale and i literally just like went on tiktok and like watched a bunch videos of girls who are like these are my top five favorite books are you on book talk i i'd like search for it it doesn't it doesn't automatically get filtered to me it has no matter how much you search the algorithms like it doesn't make sense like really babes who are we impressed who's sitting next to you that you're trying to show your phone to i feel like you're really good at choosing like inspiration for like what girls to follow like if i see an influencer that you follow i'm like oh okay like she's legit like so how do you decide which i judge what are you looking for by pretty i want it to look cool when i bring it on the plane i want it and i'm a hardcover bitch or nothing hardcover honey we're no i always take the sleeve off because i don't want anyone to talk to me about it see i like want someone to do that because i just want to feel like what no one's ever said that to me so i'm just like i want my first like book convo to happen i also feel like books are intimate like i don't want people knowing what i'm thinking about i also feel like i'd read crazy books my mom reads so much and so i like said to her like i finished my book and i ordered another one and i heard my dad in the background go oh she's really rounded a corner we've lost her like because i my personality is like more my dad but sometimes i'll pull something out that's so kim let me just say to gary there was a time where he used to go to bed and pray that you could read so let's and we have to look at the bright side of things you're so grateful and i'm really proud of you i'm really really proud of you final thought about gen z they love disappearing text i love disappearing text now how do you do it i don't send them i love receiving them because if i'm gonna say something i'm like and show them and i hope they go through your phone and see it can you not screenshot it when you or is it like when people search it it won't come up like what's the point of a disappearing text well one you can't screenshot it and two like we've tried yeah when you can't i mean you can undo it and i think screenshot it yeah i feel like it's really more for like if someone's next but i have like a screen on my thing so like you can't even all i know is all my gen z friends my tons of little gen z girlies they can't send me a normal text everything's disappearing i'm like babe why do i have to work to read this text but it does make it exciting we're on planes so much and i'm like so i'm like i don't know you don't look at my fucking phone only because i know i'm looking at someone's phone so i know my own trick so i'm like don't look at my phone so secret's safe with me but like when i'm gossiping i have one particular friend that i am thinking of that she will only send me invisible text messages because she's like It's also part of me is like, do you not trust me?
51:35Like when I send someone juicy gossip, I trust them with it. I trust that they'll protect it. I might be like, hey, if you listen to this voice note. She doesn't trust the environment ever. Got it. Got it. It's not you. It's the environment. My assistant will go on my phone or I'll hand over my phone and be like, put your number. Like there are just certain things where I'm like, if that information ever leaked. Yeah. I wonder if boys, I wonder if boys use disappearing texts or if it's just a girl thing. i feel like it's a girl thing because we are the fbi men wouldn't do it also i still i don't know how to do it even read i mean i don't even know if they actually that's such a lie because it's actually such a lie because i don't have in my grown-up years of 30 first of all not all my friends are friends with each other so they're like if we threw them in a weird group chat it'd be like hello i have a job the amount of men and i think pretty much every man i've ever dated their group chat all day all day yeah but nothing nothing juicy just like sending bad memes and i'm like wait this is honestly very male loneliness epidemic where wait well it's just more like this is actually a very girly thing of you guys to do but i'm i'm thankful that you're doing it because who else do you talk to but it's never of anything of importance it's like i took a shit today it's like you could have heard that on giggly squad but i'm fascinated by the male group chat yeah we're gonna do some research actually gigglers can you keep an eye on a man's group chat near you and tell us what they're talking about um This has become a full-on investigation.
53:23We just want to keep tabs on it just in case. Get ahead of it. Gigglers, we love you so, so much. Thank you for all the great feedback of the two episodes. No, it's been so fun. We're having too much fun. We just scheduled our first guest for one of our Friday episodes that we're very excited about. Yes. Also, DM us if there's any random fun people you guys want us to have on for a segment or just chatty Cathy. Let us know. We love you guys so much. Thanks for giggling. Bye. We'll see you next time.
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