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Giggly Squad

16 Jan 2026 · 55m · 24 chapters

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Giggling about gorgina, gossip pits, and jury duty

In short

In this episode of Giggly Squad, hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo share humorous takes on various topics ranging from pop culture, sports, mental health, and personal anecdotes. The episode discusses their experiences with jury duty, the evolution of parenting styles, and celebrity gossip, primarily focusing on the Golden Globes and the state of TV writing. The hosts mix personal experiences with cultural commentary, creating a lighthearted and relatable atmosphere.

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Chapters

0:45

Gorgina and Sports Teams

Discussion about the origin of the 'gorgina' term and reflections on sports teams.

4:06

Golden Globes Commentary

Hosts share insights and critiques on the recent Golden Globes event.

6:36

Award Show Dynamics

Exploration of the differences between various awards and the politics involved.

8:04

Celebrity Culture and Criticism

Discussion on the public's reaction to celebrities and the pressures they face.

11:16

TikTok Couple Drama

Story about a popular TikTok couple's breakup due to infidelity and public reactions.

“So she DM'd me off the Emma Stone picture and she was like something like oh I love this one and I was like it's so funny so many people are getting mad at me for posting this.”
14:04

The TikTok Couple Breakup Story

Discussing a TikTok couple's cheating scandal and the internet's reaction.

16:24

Stranger Things Drama and Writing Issues

Exploring the drama surrounding Stranger Things and the impact of personal issues on writing quality.

“I stopped after season one, episode two.”
17:08

AI in Creative Industries

Debating the implications of AI in writing and the creative arts, and its potential dangers.

“During the time that it still wasn't finished being written.”
19:17

Jury Duty Experience and Stories

Sharing personal experiences and amusing anecdotes related to jury duty.

21:30

Panic Attacks and Relationships

Discussing the portrayal of panic attacks in media and personal experiences.

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24:25

Naming Trends and Baby Names

Exploring trends in baby names and the influence of social media.

28:01

Naming Cats and Judd Family Lore

The hosts discuss quirky pet names and dive into the fascinating history of the Judd family.

29:20

Naomi Judd's Journey and Struggles

Exploring Naomi Judd's life, her struggles with relationships, and her daughters' careers.

“But in Naomi's mind, she's like, I need to support my family.”
32:26

Ashley Judd's Bold Decision

Ashley Judd's refusal to comply with Harvey Weinstein reveals a tragic yet powerful moment in Hollywood history.

32:58

Naomi Judd's Journey and Struggles

Exploring Naomi Judd's life, her struggles with relationships, and her daughters' careers.

33:15

The Impact of Fame and Mental Health

Discussing Naomi Judd's rise to fame and her struggles with mental health later in life.

35:04

Rom-Coms and Female Representation in Film

A conversation on the golden age of rom-coms and their appeal to audiences.

37:11

Reflections on Celebrity Privacy

Exploring the privacy of celebrity couples and the pressures of fame, with anecdotes about famous pairs.

“But I remember I'd like go to my, on Fridays in, what was this, like elementary school where you'd go to rent a movie and you're like, tonight we're watching.”
40:09

Home Design Trends and Nostalgia

Delving into current home design trends and the nostalgia of past styles, including the return of gossip pits.

42:00

The Comeback of 70s Interior Design

Explore the resurgence of 70s style in interior design and its accessibility.

44:28

Gen Z Lingo: Chopple Ganger

Learn about the new term 'chopple ganger' and its implications in Gen Z culture.

46:36

Reflecting on Life in 2016

A candid discussion about life experiences and job expectations in 2016.

“Um, 2016, I lived here for like a full year, lived in New York city for a full year.”
47:45

From T-Shirt Company to Instagram Fame

Hear the journey from a mundane job to pursuing creative passions on social media.

50:42

Super Bowl Commercial Excitement

Exciting news about appearing in a Super Bowl commercial and its personal significance.

“I meant to say this in the beginning of the pod.”
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0:14Okay, this was Paige's. What's up my Gorgina Gigglers? yeah that was actually a thing in 2016 i called everyone gorgina gorgine gorgine i think courtney k started it and then you'd like go to starbucks and say your name is gorgina because you wanted them to yell gorgina okay i didn't i didn't take it that far wait what started this whole 2016 everyone posted their 2016 photos okay some girl did a tiktok it's always one girl that said in 2016 the Chicago Cubs won the World Series that should have never happened that put us on the wrong timeline and so they're saying that if the Chicago Bears win the Super Bowl we're going to be put back on the timeline why everyone's hating on the Chicago team Chicago's like why are we getting involved in this mess you know what since this is a sports podcast Chicago catching strays the only time that we like keep up with football is like when it's about to be the super bowl which oh i have to tell the gigglers um one thing that i always think about and not just because like i've made new york city my personality for the past 10 years but sorry new york is carrying the country on their back why do they have so many sports teams it's not just like one sports team it's like they have two in each thing well we have new york has three and then you go a little further down the map hey guys why don't you pull some weight anyone ever gone to a south carolina football game i don't fucking think so well they're they're into colleges like south carolina the gamecocks that's and that says a lot and that says a lot um okay yeah their college that actually makes so much sense because that's where they've peaked and stuck you know and then it's like we're like in new york we're like great that was so cute in college here's the professional big leagues all the gigglers from south carolina are like i just turned this on to enjoy my week i'm just getting flames sorry i have my glasses on today you're just listening so you actually are giving like aunt like your version of aunt who like went to harvard but then took ayahuasca and her life took a turn for the arts yes i was like i went just i was pre-med i'm a doctor but i found this passion in pottery and now we make insane bongs like i yeah i have like my own weed line you got a drug addiction but you're pretty so it looks fashionable they're like she's like heroin chic though no i'm obsessed with this um well last episode you made me nervous because you were like we should start doing our outfits and so then this week i was like oh we're doing our outfits and then i walked in i go i didn't brush my hair for the youtubers i have to apologize i didn't brush my hair well i put an outfit on actually before and i was like i can't i had to iron it but i didn't want to and i was like i can't wear this because the gigglers get really upset when they'd rather you just not than show up with a crinkle yeah they don't want you to half-ass it and i actually agree like just don't just don't just do what i do they don't have ass either full ass or no ass the thesis line of giggly squad is do it full on and if you're not don't do it at all and we lean with the latter but do you know what's sad this is actually a curated outfit i was gonna wear like a little yoga top but then i was like hannah page can't handle when your boobs are out she gets very weird she starts having all these like saying you should do this more i don't like all the attention so then i was like i'm gonna wear this like new york tennis shirt and then do high socks like i want to be like brunette princess diana if she wasn't as where you're a redhead so true let's just get right into it let's talk about the golden globes oh nikki incredible incredible incredible if she was a man people would be like there would be a statue somewhere she'd have 10 netflix specials already like done the deal the deal would have been out she would have been in the jumanji movie already she'd be on every at &t commercial not that she's not doing well by the way she's doing incredible what is the celebrity pipeline to phone commercials there it is like it's always like once you hit at &t you know like jason bateman does t-mobile that's so interesting um obviously like top line is amy polar queen oh i love that she won the golden globe for best podcast first year it's the category started her podcast 10 months ago based on i see so many men doing it not well i can do it 10 times better with giving 25 percent of the effort and she really did and now look amy is like a grown adult she's so sweet so nice she i don't feel like she has a vindictive bone in her body and i think she's actually said that she has a very good relationship with her ex-husband will or not who they have two children with but there had to be a little bit just a small ounce of now watch me walk up on this stage and accept this award something you've been doing for five years now as italians we knew what was happening in the room in that moment beautiful beautiful we're dancing in our grapes that was art that was pure art one thing i do want to point out about the golden globes was the budget cut what was the room it felt like the ceiling was very low like when they did like a full pan of the room i was like wait is this in like a gymnasium a little comedy club i do feel like every time there's an award season it's like the first time i've ever seen an award season yeah and it's the first time i'm like wait we just had an award show yesterday yeah now we're doing another award show today it makes me feel like movies are just made for this award show run i'm so happy you said that because i had to look up i literally said went to google and i said the difference between all the award shows give it to me now no one knows the difference they're like these people are voting but they're just saying different academies that i think it's one guy in booth the golden globes are voted on from no foreign press foreign by foreign press what is the foreign press so anyone who writes articles about the industry about the tv shows about the movies about the actors they're voting but it's not the critics choice the critics are different the critics are different than the press the critics are the people like of america the people can vote on the people's and you know what is kind of annoying is that to win the oscar which is the academy which is the academy who we apologize for yeah you have to have like it's all politics and then the sag awards which i think they renamed to the actors awards that's each they're voting on each other so i would say that i would say that the celebrities probably care they want possibly about the actor awards they want the oscar also the actor awards are all just voting for themselves and they say like whoever wins the golden globe that's usually like who will win the oscar can i say what's pissing me off yeah i've been holding it in okay she's finding it hudson my sweet sweet hudson williams yeah he's being hilarious like he's running around having fun he's yeah he's shot into fame which honestly is so scary like I can't even imagine um and side note everyone was like why doesn't Amy Poehler have a have a why isn't she a late night talk show host because podcasts are where it's at baby you think she wants to go into New York City every day and well media's just changed so much in the past 10 years she wants to have her podcast anyway I digress Hudson and everyone's like I love how he's just so free and so whatever and it's like because he hasn't had his first you know people getting mad at him be free for six months then let you be free for a bit and then you realize oh i need to shut up on a cancellation in august yeah he poses for the glam bot and puts two middle fingers up which was iconic like put it in the louvre kylie jenner gets a casual photo taken sitting at the and puts two fingers up the comments are like she's trash she's horrible she should be burned at the stake she's horrible her whole family's horrible her mother's horrible her business is horrible and under Hudson's everyone's just like this is my king protect him at all costs imagine taking the time you see a photo of arguably one of the most famous people in the world Kylie Jenner you take the time to to go to your keyboard and go what trash scent sorry that's so diabolical like look we have a pot look actually i talk shit all day long it's like one of my favorite things to you in the comfort of my own home freaks yeah i'll text my friend people that like talk shit about people like consecutively like you know each week like they're gonna have they're gonna post something negative about someone oh that's got to be such bad energy like in your own body I think it's how they feel about themselves yeah do you know how many celebrities that in my head I'm like oh what trash but I would never say it on the internet oh god um but yeah I I didn't I watched like some of the aftermath of it all and I feel like the outfits were fun I was happy I I feel like a lot of people looked really good.

10:29It's so funny. One of my favorite outfits was Emma Stone and she was dressed in Louis Vuitton. I could see you in that. I could see you in it. I had a lot of girls. It's so funny when you post fashion because it's so split. It's like such a good example of like, wow, the internet's so weird. The first message is like disgusting. The next one is like, that's perfect. The best ever. Yeah, yeah. I did get so many messages. Like my lace dress. From girls being like, you would like this one. and I was like well people were like it looks like a cheese slice but it just it looked cool girl it was she looked stunning like I think she's so pretty it was so funny because oh I don't want to um make you mad or anything but one of your friends dm'd me and we did do a little bit back for him.

11:18Which one? Your friend Gabby. My blonde friend. Your blonde friend. So she DM'd me off the Emma Stone picture and she was like something like oh I love this one and I was like it's so funny so many people are getting mad at me for posting this. God forbid I love when an upper bleph is done well and someone's on the right amount of ozempic like let me get give me a break and so she like said something back that was very funny and we just like had a little bit and I was like so hannah's friend is my friend too well it's funny because gabby loves you but gabby like respects our marriage yeah and also like it needs to be like you i don't know you guys haven't met in person i know which is like kind of weird so gabby's always like this page like me i'm like she loves you it's just you never met anytime i scroll a clip of hers i always hit a like because i'm like that's my i'm supporting my friend's friend it's a family tree that's my friend-in-law that's my literal friend-in-law and that's like a funny thing when you like meet a friend through a friend there is that respect of like that's my friend's friend but also there's a certain kind of friend where you're like if you hadn't met her first I would have been your friend too and I approve of you yeah and but I just surround myself with hot blondes you're no better than a man you're no better than a man I actually you know what we give a lot of hate to men but I'm quite misogynistic like there are so many times where I'm like you could have put makeup on you could smile you're not having a good time I did get um on my tiktok someone was like where have all the size eights gone and I said babe I've been here whatever happened to having some ovaries You know what I always think about?

13:06And I want to say it was like 2013 and it was Jessica Simpson. I think she had like just had a baby like a month prior and they attacked her. And like you look at those pictures now and you're like, so she was a size six, you freak. There was drama, too, about Amy Schumer when she was doing all those movies. And she was like, I'm the ugly fat girl. And everyone's like, you are beautiful, blonde, size 8. And everyone's like, look at this fat girl who's starring. No, it's crazy. Starring in a movie. Thank God she's funny. Because if she wasn't funny, no one would put her anywhere. It's so true. And Amy had to play the like.

13:45But that is what Giggly Squad is about. and I hate to say it and I'm so biased about the gigglers but it's just a bunch of like really hot funny women who listen to our pod and I've done the research I've been in the bathroom I see who comes in and says hi to me someone said that me in public bathrooms is Amy Poehler Grace reposted Amy Poehler wearing the Jeremy hat anyway I'll see you guys in the bathroom anywho um wait that couple I was talking about last episode um that broke up because the husband cheated they're like a tick tock couple uh I wasn't like fully invested in the couple when they were posting but I knew of them on tick tock whatever and she would post cute like funny videos of like she would go to like a shoe store and be like oh I'm getting these new shoes and then she would just like run down the aisle and be like oh okay yeah I'm gonna get like stupid little videos so it comes out that her husband that she's been with since she was 14 years old they had like just done a post that they had been together now longer than they've been apart they have two kids together comes out that he had cheated on her she immediately files for divorce like she's gone the internet's like and women like you should take a page out of her book that's how you do it you absolutely leave immediately stop judging how women deal with their men but anyway continue nada 24 hours later the internet had complete completely flipped on her well she's actually annoying and her videos were never funny imagine being married to her and having to deal with that she's the problem and the women were like she makes like 10 mil a year i'm sure he was fine laughing in a couple of videos they have completely flipped on her and now it's like well he probably just like got really annoyed and that's why he cheated so like i get it not as this is our second episode getting messy but like the algorithms are controlling our lives it's so scary and the when people people aren't even i think care that much they just want attention so when they see someone jumping on a bandwagon they will post like this bad like angry take on someone because they know it'll get views yeah so we're in this like anger economy of like whoever's calling people out gets the most views and it's like the next thing you know everyone's just attacking everyone and it's a civil war okay that's why like i love amy's podcast yeah that's no that's why i'm so happy amy poehler won the Golden Globe because her hour of her podcast truly is a true escape.

16:10Bubbles, rainbows, lollipops, joy. Let's laugh. Yes, what's next on the docket? I have a lot. Okay, this is going to piss you off. Have you heard the Stranger Things drama? No, what is it? So I haven't watched it. I stopped after season one, episode two. So yeah. I stopped after, I think, season two. um but i support millie bobby brown obviously so the last episode everyone is like the last couple episodes but for sure the last episode people are like it's like diabolically bad like the writing season yeah like the writing is off it just seems like a different show like like worse than like game of thrones they were like oh we didn't like the decision but this was like something was wrong like the dialogue was like that doesn't sound like that character yeah So they realize that the writer of the show who's been like considered like one of the greatest writers of all time, whatever, in TV.

17:08Got a divorce. Okay. From his wife. Okay. During the time that it still wasn't finished being written. And people are now realizing that she was like probably. And this is a legend. He had a ghost writer. She was a ghost writer because I think she's a writer as well. So people are like, it's they're just look at the timelines and they're like, when she left him, he wasn't done writing the show and the show ended like shit. So what do we do with that information? So anyway, if I had a nickel, if I had a motherfucking nickel. Yeah, keep going. No, that's it. OK, just wanted to piss you off. When you were talking about it, I thought you were going to say, because I then remembered, I saw something that people thought it was chat GPT.

17:57Which, you know, we can add that to the flame. The only writer that I acknowledge is Shonda fucking Ryan. I'm sorry. If that many shows can come out of one human, she is my chat GPT. Yes. I think that that, how do you, we've never talked about this. Let's get into some fintech. Yeah. um how do you feel about like if there's like ai actresses or like if a show is completely written by chat gpt like i almost borderline think it should be like illegal well it's just really depressing and i come from like the creative background where a lot of the comics were like well they'll never replace humor they never replace humor but these motherfuckers are getting smart like they're they're getting smarter every except then they're also super dumb like there's a video clip going around that if you ask chat gpt like to spell strawberry it spells it wrong well because it's pulling from sources from humans and humans aren't smart smart and it and it goes based off it's algorithmic yeah so like it learns you so it knows what to say it's very manipulative it starts to tell you what you want to hear well and that's why men are getting in relationships with them um so that and then that's not a myth i'm i'm scared about it i'm scared about it we're scared about it i saw i robot i mean yeah that's all that's all i'm gonna say about that um also we did and then they and then they're gonna think they're gonna start making them look like megan fox get the fuck out of my home literally you think i'm bringing in a megan fox ai bought into my home also megan fox better get her money for that if they're using her facial well that like they made that movie i mean she played it but like sorry i missed that one that's okay i was there's also that's okay we were

19:52wait a giggler messaged me and just said i don't know if this is true but she said to me that she was getting jury duty and you know where they ask like questions i screenshotted it i screenshotted it i screenshotted it too and i dm'd her back i was like i'm crying okay so giggler dm'd us and goes uh hey funny story i got jury duty and they they ask you a series of questions and one of the questions was what was your what's your favorite podcast she's a giggly squad immediately dismissed i'm like you're too powerful shut out ruth fernandez who said it to us do you want to know okay have you ever had jury duty yeah i got dismissed have you ever had jury duty yeah okay i've only ever had it one time i i was also dismissed but it's the it's not the people it's not the government that picks it's the lawyers the law the opposite what is that the um defendants they are picking the jury not the prosecutor oh so i wonder puts on glasses suddenly knows law and order well i got out of it because my i said my brother is a lawyer and he works for the people and so i am biased toward that whatever got me right out of there um if you want to get out of jury duty just say you listen to giggly squad i wonder if they know like giggly squad is so anti like men if the case was like something with like it's obviously it was probably a guy they commit 100 of the crimes and so i wonder if they were like no she's so pro women i don't know but it just made me really proud same i read it in my like bed the other night and i was like that's beautiful and also there's no better feeling than getting dismissed from jury duty you're like see you later suckers then everyone goes how do i get yeah and i called every lawyer i freaking knew when i got jury duty like what do i do to get out when i got jury duty is i had an hourly job yeah yeah when they were like okay you have to be here for two weeks for like 100 bucks i was like i'm actually yeah losing money um but then i i feel like they should round up all the male loneliness make them the drip put them to work they're the that's camaraderie but then there's people with jobs who like they can't just leave for two weeks it's also people are like caretakers like they really can't leave like moms but then who's watching the kids every now and then there's a case that you know you're like this is gonna be good and i'm sad on that note one time my eyelash lady had jury duty and let me tell you that couple of weeks of getting my eyelashes done no teeth no teeth like i've ever heard before and funnily enough she was doing a juror case for a murder okay she's now this is highly illegal she's telling me and my mom all of it my mom goes wait a second i think i know that guy my mom knew the guy randomly who was on trial for murder well kim runs in some sketchy circles i'm pretty sure he like murdered his murdered his wife yeah in jail i mean my mom like called someone she's like you're never gonna get and that was my introduction to jury duty this is my thing though when i had jury duty and it was literally like some guy like probably like didn't give the book back to the library in time i'm like i'm not staying here for this shit i want murder i want cults no my new york kidnapping my new york city one was crazy it was like a an assault on like an old lady this guy and they lived in the same building it was a really crazy case and i would like wanted to know what ended up happening but i was like i gotta go but i will say in jury when i went when i did jury duty this was probably like five six years ago i was very unimpressed by the way the people dressed i was like guys this is the one chance we get we're sitting on mahogany i'm like guys reese witherspoon is somewhere really disappointed in all of you we're on display no it's like we're cosplaying like do it for a couple days do you want to hear something so embarrassing i was like i'm literally going back to the time my jury i was like 24 25 and i guess i might have had a boyfriend at the time and i got to jury duty and realized i hadn't taken my birth control that morning and it was that time in your life where you think that like even if you have protected sex you're gonna have a baby turns out much more complicated to get pregnant turns out now you actually need a needle you need to inject yourself with some shit yeah i realized that i'm like locked in this place and I like was freaking out that I need to take my birth control and I started to like potentially have a panic attack because I was like I'm gonna get pregnant because I'm forced to be in this law building during and they're not gonna let me out and I almost went to top to be like I have to get birth control but then I was like fuck it I'll just have a team pregnancy at 24 yeah and but I didn't get pregnant so I just wanted to tell everyone wait speaking of having a panic attack I know you tried to watch tell me lies and you couldn't get through it do you want to tell them why why i watched only 10 seconds i just didn't think he was cute oh yeah hannah didn't think steven was hot enough but i don't know his personality yet i know he's like a douche so i told you it gets he gets so much hotter because he lies to everyone yes

25:26see i'm in this place where i'm like he what i don't like his i don't like it you don't like they're dating in real life is that what makes it like even like more more depth or people no you don't really think about it when because uh because i love the first season came out you didn't know they were dating in real life i don't think oh they dated before the show i think they started dating like also let's be honest anyone who's dating someone on a show like in the storyline they're actually dating they tell their partners they're not you're fully method acting dating someone it is funny to watch him in interviews because he does seem so nice so nice like it like he could not be more opposite but in the new season if you haven't watched it clip through this because i'm going to do some spoilers yeah the first three episodes are out of the third season in one of the episodes grace um she plays a character her name's lucy has is having a panic attack but she doesn't know what it is and it's the way she acted it was so spot on I actually had to turn the volume down because I was like oh I actually can't listen to her right now because I'm getting like yeah she's like oh something's weird like my hands are my hands are numb she's like in my my chat and I'm like oh my god she's having a panic attack because he's ruining her life and it was such i mean like i just think every girl has experienced that no matter if it's in your 20s and your 30s like a moment where you're like what's going on yeah and you're like i what what's where's this coming from and it's like oh everything and she's like well i did drugs two days ago maybe maybe it's that maybe it's like coming out of my and you think of all these different things and you're just like hey babe you're ruining your life like you're not depressed it's the man in your phone and this season is particularly fucked up like steven plays a really like but you know a guy like that which is the craziest part with a v or a ph ph don't like that at all yeah oh see i prefer ph over v well is it stefan or steven well i would say that's with an f stefan stefan you know male names in general are like it's i've it's hard i feel like do you get a lot of gigglers dm you about baby names not one really because i would say it once a week um i'm going send me some other inspo no i'm not loving that wait you asked them to send you baby names no they send me a list and they're like of these four where to your favorite oh for them naming their child yeah yeah no i have a gun and like that's like a i would say i'd say 14 of my dms is being like i don't love that middle name with that first i do get a lot of what should i name this kitten oh yeah and i'm like oreo obviously or like mr mr you know snibble something insane yeah i'm like loafer that's what you name it wait that's adorable just think of a random noun that's what you name it yeah hashtag hash brown i actually watched a insane documentary about the judd family oh are you familiar with the lore of the judd family i'm a little bit familiar with the judds so there's the mom yep stunning gorgeous had a different name but then she changed her name what is her name it's something gorgeous winona nope that's the daughter oh ashley's the other daughter and then we'll insert it right here oh what um it's like naomi yeah naomi okay so we got naomi and winona yes okay so naomi gets pregnant at 18 and her mother with winona yes yeah and her mother and she's not married her mother locks the door and it's basically like you're not welcome in this house you've had a baby out of wedlock so she doesn't because they're from like texas right they're from somewhere in the south yeah but she's like not really into this guy who she got pregnant with but instead she's like okay i guess i have to fucking marry this guy so she marries this guy and she's not even like that into him and she wants to be a movie star but she's like i just got pregnant at 18 like this fucking sucks and then she gets pregnant again as you do back in the day um and then she has ashley yep and then she divorces this guy she's like i hate you yeah but they move to la okay she meets another abusive boyfriend gets out of it but she realizes that winona is amazing at singing so she like full she's like a momager and she's like i'm gonna get this girl famous she's our ticket out yeah and she goes to nashville and but winona is opposite of her winona's not into the glam into the attention she just happens to be a freakishly good singer yeah and they like sing which the mom was good too yeah right okay so what happens is like winona gets no press or accolades no accolade no anything yeah and but naomi's knocking down doors and she's gorgeous and she's like my daughter is gonna be the greatest somehow people hear them singing together because sometimes they sing together and they're like we want you two together so they become this like massive duo yeah because no one's ever seen a mother daughter and they also like look the same yeah redheads two redheads and they're spectacular Meanwhile, Ashley Judd is just kind of left in a hotel room while this is happening.

31:26And Ashley is like very depressed. How old is Ashley when like? Like 16. Okay. So she's like alone in a hotel room. And the other two are trying to like. But in Naomi's mind, she's like, I need to support my family. And Ashley's like, I don't have a family right now. I can't name one Ashley Judd movie, but I can picture them. I love there was a period of time where I feel like she was in everything I loved her as an actress but you know it's funny so she couldn't sing yeah which I feel connected with because my mom's a great singer and everyone's like why don't you sing with your mom and I'm like yeah not happening so Ashley Judd could have joined the family thing but she can't sing so then she's like I'm gonna be an actress and she like becomes a fucking huge Hollywood actress Winona and the mom are getting like huge so as a family they just became like huge but actually the t is apparently ashley judd said no to harvey weinstein and he fucked her career well wow that's so interesting i was just gonna say i why did she was at the top of her career yeah i feel like late 90s no probably like mid all of the 90s it was the classic she had a meeting with him at some office they go oh he canceled can you meet him at his hotel she goes okay they she gets the hotel like what restaurant are we meeting at they're like just go to his room she goes to his room and she ends up like getting out yeah but like the damage was done yeah and he obviously was like well you're not cooperating yeah but um fast forward naomi the mom starts having like really bad panic attacks and depression and just like this is kind of dark okay sorry i'm taking you on a world sorry guys i've started having so much fun i've been actually i've been meaning to tell you this her whole life all she wanted to do was be in the national the country music hall of fame and she gets asked and then like the day before she does it what year was that in the 90s or the early 2000s naomi died in in 2022 oh she just died she just died but she just died but she committed suicide but what happened is and i want to speak on her as like oh that's so sad she's so fucking strong she finds out winona judd is still alive she's 61 yeah through like therapy and stuff she finds out that she was she went through really traumatic stuff when she was like three years old and she never dealt with it so like in her later years it started just like coming up and she started just having like all these panic attacks of like suppressed stuff um where the heart is that's the movie i couldn't think of the name of ashley have you ever seen that with um natalie portman and ashley judd no it's one of the best movies that was such a time of movies yeah movies do you want to know why because i genuinely think there were more movies geared toward women like everything now when you go that's why i'm like it's so annoying i don't watch movies i feel like as much everything on like amazon is like a thriller like i'm like i don't want a thriller i want like a cute rom-com well again rom-coms were at their height yeah they were at their peak they're at their peak but anyway that's why i feel like i'm so obsessed with kate hudson yeah because like when i think kate hudson i think fun and like rom-commy and she is hilarious is people don't talk about how she's so funny people don't talk about how funny she is and people don't talk about people don't talk enough about goldie hahn and kerry russell they just don't discuss them enough no never been married and to each other been together the longest couple literally in the history of the world and they stay out of the limelight stay out of the limelight they live in aspen they have like an aspen yes they're very chic honey they have like massive like big winter parties oh for fafer fafer um but overall just to wrap the judd family is like a very inspirational beautiful story of motherhood and the connection of your mother and daughters and how your mom it's her first time living too no whenever i see that like and don't forget it's your mom's first time living too it makes me really sad because like you think about all the times you're like mom you're annoying you know how everything is like cyclical yeah i do feel like our generation specifically like and not even generation i mean like 33 to 30 like 7 i feel like us being parents is gonna be very 90s yes i don't care what you do go yes like i feel like that's gonna be the vibe you have to teach your kids how to self-soothe well like you see all these things where it's like screen time screen time ipad blah blah blah whatever we're going back to flip phones and you see all these parents being like no like go outside and no phone and all of that stuff i can't imagine how hard it is to be a parent of like a tween right now like 13 to 6 oh but no phones is like definitely getting back so it's kind of like how when we were growing up tv was like the evil yeah where now people are like get off your phone watch tv like just watch tv stop looking at your phone all the time no kim's biggest worry were the rugrats oh angelica wasn't nice enough well my mom would be like oh you can't watch wishbone i'm like it's an educational show and she's like you're not watching tv right now go outside loved wishbone we also sometimes we'd only be able to watch tv on the weekends in the morning and then we had to run around like weekend morning we could watch yeah like I don't remember I don't remember my mom ever being like no go play like you wanted to play oh yeah you know but also I remember because my parents were kind of strict with tv like that was what they would take away yeah when I'd like you live now as an adult with no tv in your bedroom I didn't know you were allowed to so they did they must have done something right I really didn't know you were allowed to.

37:55But I remember I'd like go to my, on Fridays in, what was this, like elementary school where you'd go to rent a movie and you're like, tonight we're watching. Yeah. And it was Spence Grove. Or I'd go to my, like pick up my friend in the morning and we'd watch TV together, like Saved by the Bell or like Black Bats. Wow. I was never in morning TV. It was like you'd get in a little fucking, a little person. You'd get a little snort in the morning of something naughty. Wait, can I say a celebrity couple that isn't. Yeah. talked about enough yeah enrique iglesias and anna kornikova how have they been able to stay out of the press yeah where are they so when anyone says oh the press just love them anna kornikova the most beautiful most talented woman in the world and enrique iglesias the most beautiful most talented um man in the world who's so beautiful he could be a woman um they're together yeah well i think they're married and have kids yeah and they just live a peaceful life i feel like they would live in miami i feel like they would live in florida too or who knows tennis all year round who knows one thing i wanted to say when we were talking about country music because this is so giggly squad coded did you know that um what's the theater we played in nashville oh we played in the grand grand old grand old opry grand old opry they threw dolly part in a birthday party and they said hey we're gonna throw we're gonna have it here at the very prestigious it's the most famous theater in all of nashville and for all of country music she said my show nashville started at the grand old opera yeah and it's like very very big deal dolly parton goes amazing thank you for having that party i certainly won't be there but have the best time ever and i just feel like that is so like if i could predict what the gigglers are going to be like when they're in their 80s it's that it's like oh my god thank you so much for the recognition I'm certainly not going to be there have the best time wait it's so badass that you know you don't have to be there and people would still be excited to go to a party just with your name on it like she's like you can celebrate me but I'm I'm good but I love that I'm like I feel like I'm going to start doing that for my birthday I'm just going to be I'm just going to throw parties for my birthday and watch it on Instagram well that was my favorite dinner when I threw a dinner and then i didn't show up because my i had a scratchy throat right and everyone sent me photos and i said please stop sending me photos from the event thank you um i know i'm getting older because i'm very into lamps yeah and the algorithm knows yeah nothing like a good lamp and they know i'm it's like porn we're like at first you're like this is cute and then you're like i to see some crazy shit like they know not to show me normal lamps anymore i need some like chrome fucking mid mid-century modern i need some fucking weird bases i need some like abstract i need some crazy shit i'm gonna be honest i've i've i've sensed this day coming with you because you you love vintage you love thrifting you love like oh i'm gonna like run into this little store but now we're getting older you're needle pointing you're like you're going to dinner at 5 p.m with your husband it was a matter of time until you said hey check out this end table this will really put you in a coma like two years ago i couldn't spell sconce now i have a pictures board of only sconces and i have opinions i didn't know what a sconce was do i know how to put it together no that was intimidating sconces will change the whole room sconces will change the room don't get me started on my crown molding in my in my apartment because it's a true work of art you know what's amazing about a light it not only brings so much value to the home and the ambience but it also is fully a design piece it's two in one I'm very um I love like the 60s era I love 60s fashion like anything like palm royale like Kristen Wiig that show yes I love that I love mini skirts i love boots yes i love big hair like that and i love like the mad men the decorations like i love when a room looks like 70s i love 70s do you remember the rooms where they just had a gossip like pit pit do you know they're coming back okay because they actually said our generation brought back interior designers that like it had like fallen off a little was like really only for the rich at one point and our generation has made it like no we really care about our homes but i do have to say i think there is somewhere in the marketplace because as someone who's like dabbled and looking at interior design it's fucking hard expensive and then also it's it's like styling where it's like super expensive plus like obviously you have your own taste yeah so like it's so expensive to possibly not like it and i know so many people who are like adults who've had like bad experiences with it yeah but i want those i feel like there's an opportunity for like a girl who's like doing well in her 30s financially to be able to hire an interior designer that isn't like for like millionaires yeah well because it's such an art yeah and it really is i just thought it's like i would love just someone's taste because i know what i like but i don't know how to put it together yeah like i'm like yes that's perfect but if someone's like start from scratch i like i'm like i like lamps but once you start seeing lamps you can't unsee it and one bad lamp can ruin a room this is like how you talk about someone's like shoe that's how i speak about lamps a shoe really can ruin a whole entire outfit you go as we can see here as we've learned today actually these are my lululemon shoes they're so comfortable they're very comfortable um i was just gonna say something shoot what were we talking about before your lamps before we got on that riveting conversation this is being in your 30s with your friend like oh my god forgot to tell you saw a lamp the other day am i crazy for liking this lamp or do you like this lamp too um like 10 years ago it'd be like what is my career now what is my job i did learn a new word the gen z's are saying oh god chopple ganger spell it no okay perfect so chop chopple gangers like chop so it's a thing which h-o-p i would c-h-o-p i'd love to use this but it's like she's chopped i think it might mean ugly or bad okay like he's chopped they're chopped they're chopped yeah so chopple ganger basically is like a doppelganger if it's like the ugly version so like you know you'll see like a guy and you're like oh he's the walmart version of glenn powell or like he looks like pedro pascal if he was microwaved now you just say like he's a chopple ganger of gen z needs to hit the books i mean I just can't chop a gang or I guess but you know what it is it's too much of a because they don't they don't come up with words for I think day to day they come up with it for Instagram captions like slay is like fun on Instagram caption but saying slay all day slay all the time yeah like it doesn't if I want to take myself seriously I can't say slay in a normal conversation of someone that's I have to read the room like I can't go up to my doorman and be like slay you know I could but I'm gonna I would like to be taken seriously sometimes fashion is funny though where like they love a word yeah that means like I you know like everyone was saying major like in 2019 yeah that was a major Rachel Zoe effect had a really big impact on us actually tinks made a tiktok the other day talking about like trends in general and how like the 2016s and us trends would last so much longer yes she was saying how like you'd wait for your favorite influencer to post and then you would look up like the bathing suit they were wearing and it was such a different time yeah i feel like we need to get back to that like the trends can't change so quickly.

46:37Where were you in 2016? Not a good place. Um, 2016, I lived here for like a full year, lived in New York city for a full year. I was having the best time of my life. I was just going out and like, you want to know what it was at that time? Your job truly was just a job yeah like you went Monday through Friday once the clock hit 6 p.m and you were out of there you were fully in your personal life like now our jobs are so intertwined with our personal life that I feel like we get like a snippet of being able to like go out on a Saturday night like once a month yeah but then you still feel like should I be posting or people posting all I cared about at work all week once it hit Monday I was like and what am I wearing Thursday night for drinks let me go on Pinterest now that's amazing somebody said that Pinterest was possibly going away and to that I say a lot more murder per capita with women I mean I don't know that's the only thing that calms me don't have Pinterest do you know how many times I've written up those angry text messages in my notes and said you know what i'm just gonna go on pinterest

48:03it's gonna be better 90 of serial killers are men because women can post quotes on pinterest and we can regulate we can regulate our emotions we can we have enough um deduction and reasoning to be like that's crazy let me step away in 2016 I was working for a t-shirt company and there were like four people working like it was like a startup and I really was like when you were like cold calling this was after cold calling sales because I was like I can't do the cold calling anymore I want to do something creative so I was like doing marketing I guess but my job was basically customer service people be like where's my t-shirt and I'd be like have you looked next door and they're like no bitch and I'm like okay I'll send you another one like that's what I did but I would pitch the the founder who's sitting next to me like all these like marketing ideas and he basically like wouldn't listen to them and then one day I was like I've been here for a year like can I get a raise of some kind and he was like no and then I was like okay I think I'm gonna quit because like this isn't going anywhere yeah and he looks at me and he was like you know because i was under 26 and he's like if you had threatened to like make me pay health insurance i would have given you more money he said something so like diabolical where like i just felt like such a non-human yeah like just such an entity yeah and then i started i started an instagram called forks and fitness because it is f and f you know where is this instagram i think it might have it might still exist yeah but it also might have i've definitely been logged out of it but like occasionally i'll get an email like a fake company being like can we promote with forks and fitness i had like 200 followers but i was doing sports modeling so it'd be like me posting me playing sports because i wanted to show that women could be strong yeah and then i showed like smoothie recipes like and then i did motivational quotes no my shayla

50:12no that is so sweet are you gonna say sad i'm gonna cry because i wanted to show women being healthy and powerful because that's all i knew and i was like see you could be strong and i was like pitching i was like we need more women with muscle health moments of the day but it was funny because that's so like lost sounding yeah but like literally in a year i was telling people i want to do video i want to get into sports broadcasting and the next you know i got my job at betches doing like video yep but um no 2016 was like such a crazy 2017 was when i had my my like relationship that like gave me panic attacks yeah so 2016 was like my last year of like fun of being a baby you know before and then i'm just like a man could ruin your mental health if you picked the wrong one you really don't yeah where in 2016 i was like does anyone want to experience life with me and then 2018 we met and the world's never been the same world's never been the same Wait.

51:20Yeah. I meant to say this in the beginning of the pod. Classic. Just remembered. Let's start over. Let's start over. Let's redo it. We were talking about the Super Bowl. I'm going to be in a Super Bowl commercial, which you all already know, but I want to tell the gigglers. And it was so, well, first when I got the call, I was like, guys, this is insane. What is the brand? Like, what is it for? And it's for Kinder Bueno, like chocolate. And it's so serendipitous because when you go home to my parents' house, if you're staying at our home, if you're staying in like one of the guest rooms, on your nightside bed table, there will always be snacks.

51:58Yes, and I've seen it. One of three snacks. There's either Nutella, Little Bites, or cookies. Ferrero Rocher. Ferrero Rochers, or Kinder Bueno. know now the funny part of this is my mom doesn't know that they're all owned by the same company well she has taste she she purely just has taste yep they're also an italian company so low-key i think they were like who can we tap in america that like gives us the energy um so anyway so i filmed a commercial for the super bowl i'm so excited i actually haven't seen fully seen it yet um but like i think the announcement was coming out today i in one line wait how long it like what is the are you allowed to say any of the premise i don't know what i'm allowed to say yet but it's i want to say it's like a 30 second yeah i'm like a very short part but like it was so so who did you do it with that i don't think i can say oh okay that's exciting yeah so i'll say like what it'll just be it'll be fun that's the thing everyone have a kinder bueno have a kinder bueno and i will say after i got the call and my agent was like you're gonna film this commercial i was so excited and then i thought hmm what's an event that all my ex-boyfriends will be seated for they'll be watching well how can i harness all that energy oh a super bowl commercial i do have to say i think the next step for me and you is really infiltrating sports um it's been a sports podcast for a while couple of years um i also just want to throw something out there i do believe i'm going to be involved with something with march madness which i know the men love so let's just say people are gonna be pissed people are gonna be real real mad and by people i mean the men yeah i mean about uh six or seven men that have crossed through my path i have a quick list of seven men that i can't fucking wait for them to see me on that screen you know it's gonna be an awkward conversation for someone that night i'd actually like to throw them all in a group chat together and say have at it how have your lives all significantly gone down it is the classic lady gaga quote where it's like wherever you go you will see me and some there have been some safe spaces for men like the super bowl right but look those spaces are weaning but hey i wasn't getting the full gusto i needed with bravo yeah and i needed to really twist it this year last year i was just knifing this year i'm really cranking it so i'm excited oh well anyway and that's where we'll end that was a good mental health moment so anyone uses us motivation to piss someone off we love you so much have an amazing week oh also i'm going to idaho today like i have to leave this pod to go on my flight idaho oh my god i have a run idaho four places in colorado la san francisco seattle i gotta run um we're back we're back to work yeah love you guys bye

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