Giggling about intuition, drag queens, and getting fired

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1:15Hannah Berner: Sup gigglers. Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. Maybe it's fun. I mean the day just got away from me

1:29Paige DeSorbo: My My My My

1:35Hannah Berner: Yep Yep No and that's actually exactly what I was thinking You took the words right out of my mouth You guys we have nothing left I have nothing

1:46Paige DeSorbo: This is also when you make us record No one's made us record actually

1:50Hannah Berner: We made ourselves record No you made us record this morning i okay it's just one of those days i'm gonna start crying it's just like no not like seriously but like i could cry good wait i am gonna get my period in

2:10Paige DeSorbo: about four days if any gigaways are on the same cycle let me know anyway that's funny because i

2:14Hannah Berner: just ended mine i have a lot to say i can't even compose can i just say something sure

2:18Paige DeSorbo: did you wear a butt pad

2:25Hannah Berner: the academy needs to know no this is why you need your girlfriends because i'm not kidding like the hours leading up to recording this pod and i'm talking about like last night and this morning there were so many things that i could have burnt down the entire city for and it's really like oh i actually just needed to like talk to my best friend like oh my god well okay this is what's

2:47Paige DeSorbo: fucked up you guys because we care about the pod too much we haven't had a full talk about what went down this weekend like we've been texting on stop but like i didn't want to spill anything i'm gonna cry because i haven't been able to vent about anything you're so pent up right now i'm so

3:06Hannah Berner: pent up and it's like i've talked to my mom i've talked to a man in my life like no what i really needed was i needed to talk to my best friend because she's actually the only one that gets me

3:15Paige DeSorbo: I apologize to you because well of course I shot my special on Saturday and then Paige was running

3:23Hannah Berner: Netflix on Sunday so we're both you know on edge you know when I get in those moods where I'm like I'm obsessed with myself I love myself I'm in one of those moods where I'm like so annoyed by myself

3:35Paige DeSorbo: I'm like enough with you what oh because you've like been doing so much I'm just like enough with

3:41Hannah Berner: your nonsense to my own self here's a funny here's a funny story though so saturday night hannah records her special and so like i text her earlier we're on two different time zones so i text her like earlier in that day like you're gonna crush it like your outfit's so good so it's like half the battle like you're fine now i leave i go i get a massage awesome i'm not thinking about anything except me and my fucking massage girl okay she got in there Sunday morning I wake up I'm like getting ready I'm doing my thing I get a text from Hannah you're gonna crush it tonight your outfit's so good like don't worry about it like you're good I get out of doing the red carpet I have a text from Hannah saying I could only watch the beginning of it because I had to go get a massage and I felt so bad that I'm getting a massage while you're like probably wanting to kill yourself I text Hannah back and I go that's so funny because I got a when you were doing your thing where you probably wanted to kill yourself and i thought nothing of

4:45Paige DeSorbo: it i literally like was nervous to tell you that i wasn't able to watch the majority of it because i was getting a massage which is so fucking selfish of me and you literally go what do you think i was doing while you were working babe and this is why we're friends i was all i had to perform and you'd be really proud of me my stylist was like gave me these shoes that are like five inch heels and she's like these are gorgeous so I put them on and I'm a diva in the opposite way where I'm always like this isn't gonna be comfortable like I have to I have moves where

5:22Hannah Berner: I'm grinding I'm jumping I'm doing my six and a half inch platforms I said we have sixers

5:28Paige DeSorbo: i'd really love to be tall you're the exact opposite you go can we go higher um our favorite photographer lucho came oh my god we tortured this man no we tortured no i feel so bad for lucho so lucho was loving his life in milan this is so fancy of lucho in milan having pasta whatever people do in milan gets a call from page's team can you fly to la which is like 72 hours i i'm not a mathematician but it's long shoots you next day flies to toronto shoots my special wait wait wait wait oh yeah you're telling it right okay

6:11Hannah Berner: you go and another thing never mind and you know what yes flies to la flies to la shoots me for l yeah so yeah then flies to me

6:21Paige DeSorbo: and then he looks at me and i go we were like so in it and then i look at him and i go are you doing sag i mean i'm sorry actor awards and he was like yeah and i'm like oh my god and he's like i can't i just i have to get on a red eye so anyway we're flying this italian boy back and forth back and forth at the end of my special he just starts laughing and i'm like what are you laughing about besides i mean this isn't the comedy part why are you laughing we're just sitting here and he's like you and Paige are so different he's like do you realize I had to corner you and beg you to take photos of you you hired me to take photos of you you're running away from me I can't get you down we take one photo you you you get distracted you're talking to someone where Paige I'll be like hey Paige we took 700 photos and you're like what's a little more they're like Paige you have a gig to do and she's like but did we get it and he's like we got it 400 times and she's like i don't think so my new thing is set up a photo shoot for me you were bringing a screen around i'm bringing you go now we're in paris now we're in tokyo

7:33Hannah Berner: remember when aubrey o'day was posting all those instagrams but she made it look like she was at the beach that's me and lucho i'm like i'm like let's envision this is a tiffany campaign

7:45Paige DeSorbo: what are we doing like we get into when i tell you lucho was like can we shoot now and i'm like no i'm getting ready and then we're like about to go on and i'm like i have to go on and then i'm like okay i have to rest for my next show like i was like lucho i don't have time he's like you

7:59Hannah Berner: hired me no the morning of actor awards i my assistant had to get like this check on get a literal trapeze i don't even know she had to get like all these things for him to set up his photo shoot thing because he was on a flight from canada i'm obsessed but yeah so you're anyway

8:19Paige DeSorbo: so i put on the five inch heels and i told my stylist i cannot perform my my hulu special in these like i'm gonna look awkward i have to feel like myself yeah but you're gonna i have so much to say and you have so much to say anyway just still say it so we get there and we're putting on the outfit and i'm like you know what i had like your voice in my head and i was like wear the fucking high heels hannah it looks so much better just do it but wearing five inch heels

8:50Hannah Berner: for three shows like your lower back gives out a lot so i was flying back on sunday and i found

8:57Paige DeSorbo: this guy who would come to my apartment it was like sketchy like wait so did you wear them yeah babe i wore them i wore i'm gonna cry no i know and she brought she just brought them like just in case and i was like the comedy guys i'm so proud of you thank you it's gonna make all the no it will like and i would have never done it if it wasn't for you so i think and my nana so thank you to you and my nana but then the guy was like great i'm free tonight because i'm like i'm actually like having a spasm i've been flying too much and he was like great 7 p.m i said perfect going through my day and then i i turn on netflix and it says 7 p.m start and i'm like okay page will start at 6 i'm like nope page is starting at 7 i'm like she's gonna kill me she's gonna kill me why the hell would i care well but then i'm also getting a massage thinking my poor baby is trying to remember facts she's trying to pretend she wants to listen she's whole she's she's having a stand in her little dress with her butt pad like and i just felt we're normally do stuff together so it just felt uneven but knowing that uneven and also even with my co-host i didn't

10:18Hannah Berner: realize that i wasn't standing with him like i was standing on my own first i just want to report i didn't wear the butt pad oh i put it on i didn't even put it on with my dress because when i put it on i actually think you would look phenomenal in it because you already have a good butt it was almost like it almost made my hips look it didn't look good is what i'll say like it

10:46Paige DeSorbo: didn't look good if i did it i feel like i would look really camp like like i would look kim k like yeah you would be like giving like julia fox like you should have worn it and just not said

10:57Hannah Berner: anything it looked insane i didn't even try it on with my dress because it looked so nuts yeah yeah so anyway i forgot everything i was gonna say we have nothing to say we had really intense weekends i just want to say i i was nervous but i wasn't as nervous as i thought i was going to be like I took a I obviously took a beta blocker but in my head I was like oh my gonna have to take another one because yes I'm live for an hour but I was standing there for two hours prior like there are because the red carpet is so many hours long yeah it would be impossible to go live for three hours because it's there's such a lull like you don't know in time what people are showing up you also don't want to OD on beta blockers right I don't want to like pass out but I wasn't none of my typical anxiety things that happened to me happened so I'm like so I was so proud of myself for that I was like wow it took me a full fucking year to reset my nervous system from just like absolute bullshit over the past few years so I was very happy with that I like at that point I was like I don't even care how I do because just the fact that I'm not getting nervous and feeling like

12:22Paige DeSorbo: I'm going to faint is a win in itself yeah yes it's huge so much was just like happening also

12:29Hannah Berner: Daphne launched today like our spring collection launched today and it is so it's just so hard to run a business you have so much going on no and I think people like I I don't like I don't have I never talk about the running of Daphne on Giggly Squad because it truly is like running a business did you see that article that Gen Z is getting fired at an alarming rate no I didn't see that some article came out so then obviously like everyone and their mom is doing a video on TikTok that Gen Z is getting fired at like an insane rate like they just can't hold they can't hold a job because people are just firing them left right and center someone who's always down on gen z i'm actually going to stick up for them for a second i don't think it's necessarily gen z i think it's being that age anyone that age like in your early and mid 20s like it's very easy to mess up at your first job second job you're like as someone who was fired in her early 20s okay hold on yeah but then i kept seeing comments and it was millennials basically being like gen z doesn't take any initiative and the comments were gen z being like initiative cost extra like you're not paying me and i think that gen z might not understand the term initiative and for me it's common sense do we i think that gen z just lacks certain social cues because of like covid and certain things like and then i get tiktoks of like teachers that teach like 14 year olds and they're like hey guys they don't know how to read so we're asking them to do these things and it's like they can't do it because they can't read it like i guess their reading comprehension

14:27Paige DeSorbo: is really bad okay i do have to say i think gen z's also they are amazing with like understanding their worth and like in theory boundaries setting boundaries having a good work-life balance yes which in theory is amazing awesome but then you have to realize you will sometimes get fired when you have too many boundaries in the workplace and that's okay that job isn't for you um and as someone who runs a business and as someone who's been fired

15:01Hannah Berner: as someone who's fired people before yeah i think boyfriends fired multiple fired so fired so many

15:10Paige DeSorbo: boyfriends can we fire boyfriends like breaking up be like you're on you're fired i've seen your work i've seen your work it doesn't bring value that is what it should be because it's like hey

15:21Hannah Berner: I gave you warning after warning.

15:23Paige DeSorbo: You've been on probation.

15:25Hannah Berner: We did a full year review. I said what you improved in and what you didn't. And now. You're actually hurting the company. Yeah. I also saw a thing that it was like stay until you hate them because you'll never go back. And I'm like, wait, I like have unintentionally done that for 15.

15:42Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. I don't agree with that. But if you have to do it that way, that's fine.

15:48Hannah Berner: Anyway, what was I saying? Okay, one of the things that I run into as a business owner, and I'm like, obviously, a lot of gigglers can relate to this. And I don't think it's just Gen Z. I find myself, if you hire someone to do a job, I don't feel like I need to check in on you that you're doing that job because I hired you to do that job.

16:11Paige DeSorbo: Well, initiative is so important and it comes from caring. Now, this is the thing. I was definitely taken advantage of and abused in my early 20s at multiple startups however I knew what I signed up for and this is my advice to people in their 20s you're gonna change jobs every two years that's how you actually get salary increases because if you stay at the same job you're not gonna get a lot unless if you're like so obsessed with a job so when you're in it think Think about the book you're going to write. I love saying I was working, you know, for$20 an hour and I was working weekends and I was learning so much.

16:52Paige DeSorbo: And I was hanging out with, you know, this executive who was telling me all their strategies. It's the money. Yeah, it seems low, but you're learning stuff. And yeah, we were part of that like unlimited vacation days time where they literally didn't give us days off. And if we asked for it, they like judged us. I never asked for a day off. No, that was like illegal. And they were like, but we have a beer tap in the office. And I'm like, that gives me diarrhea. But anyway, I do have to say too, every single job I've been fired from, and this is a flex, the founder or the person who fired me has since reached out.

17:34Paige DeSorbo: And I have to say, I got an amazing text from someone who fired me early on in my career. I have to bring it up for you that could make me cry. This, ooh, this could make me cry. I was in my very early - We're so emotional today. We're so emotional. This is my very early 20s. I was working under someone who was an amazing entrepreneur, and he kind of ended up just wanting me to do customer service, but I was trying so hard to do everything for him and pitch him stuff, and he basically was like, stop. And then when I asked for a raise, he was like, leave me alone. yeah so i like left i was like i have to leave so he texted me i think back to those years and realize i had no clue at the time how to help you be you keep having fun and it's this beautiful like it wasn't about i was a i was a bad worker or is it raining where you are no why oh it's raining

18:39Hannah Berner: we're both in new york yeah that's why i asked anyway keep going you go sorry there's a 30 chance of rain i'm touching my boob continue but anyway if you are if you are a gen z getting

18:52Paige DeSorbo: fired right now don't take it personally but i would get fired for doing too much like they would be like you're not ceo sit down and answer emails where i was like we got to

19:01Hannah Berner: change the strategy yeah i don't think they're getting fired because of that i think they're getting fired for literally the exact opposite but i would argue gen z's yes you're getting

19:10Paige DeSorbo: taken advantage of but you kind of in your first years you want to learn as much as possible so that when eventually you do get the big jobs you feel so qualified this one girl gave an example

19:22Hannah Berner: where she was like taking initiative is more like you're following up with someone rather than your boss asking you hey can you follow up with that person I also have like crippling anxiety

19:36Paige DeSorbo: and the idea of like my boss tell me to do something and it doesn't get done will keep me up

19:41Hannah Berner: for months so like I've had people like I've asked like okay where do you see yourself in five years and like I've had employees be like I don't think about it and I'm like okay like it's that and that's totally fine but if you're not thinking about it then I'm certainly not thinking about

20:00Paige DeSorbo: it because I'm thinking about it for myself yeah I also there is a interesting perspective I was meeting with this girl and I don't think she knew that I was actually trying to see if she could be good like for our company yeah and I was just subtly asking her questions like what's your dream job like yeah and i literally look at her and i'm like if you you could get everything you wanted in a job yeah what would it be and she looked at me and she was like to not work and at that moment i said that's incredible and i wish that i could be fulfilled outside of work and that's my own mental illness okay same i wish we're not talking down on that that sounds and there are people who lives to work and work to live yeah what did you say to me when you like started dafty you said i'm feeling really creatively fulfilled which i was missing in my life and that's where i felt my most happiness like for example even this special i felt the same way this weekend too where i was like last special you had i had i felt the weight of the world everyone was like there were all these articles about like hannah left reality tv to like be a shitty comic and like it was all like repeating in my head and i'm like i could fail i could fail and when you had your panic attack yeah back in denver not to bring it up again i know it's triggering i told you i said you better get on stage tomorrow because if you don't you'll never go on again and i've dealt with a lot of performance anxiety in my past so people are like why would you become a stand-up comedian but I realized the only way to conquer your fears is to do it and then your brain learns like oh this isn't something to be scared about but the only way for your brain to know it is to do it right so what was crazy is this Hulu special I was like oh no like three weeks beforehand am I gonna start like getting in my head again and like fighting all these demons and it like never happened and then I went on stage and I'm like you're so fucking prepared you've you're having fun you've done this before and it just like we both have had so much growth over the last two years it's fucking crazy and for anyone who's scared of something right now I did my homework for you and this is so annoying and I hate to be so millennial about it force yourself to do it yeah like even it's it's a little thing like you're scared of going on dates set up a date right now because that's the only way to change your brain neuroplasticity eileen glue talked

22:48Hannah Berner: about it eileen who eileen goo we talked about her last time neuroplasticity sorry the word slipped my mind wait so okay is there any behind the scenes stuff from the actor wards you getting

23:03Paige DeSorbo: ready or like celebrity encounters that we should know about let me just say I will get into it but

23:10Hannah Berner: let me just say one more thing on why women are so incredible I'm getting ready for for the Netflix thing and something happened not even like nothing but like it was nothing that happened but I couldn't say in the moment like I look at Taylor Fitzgerald my makeup artist I'm not kidding Hannah I shot my eye up for half a second half a second we didn't even fully make eye contact and I had a full conversation with her in the moment to the point that after when it was over she texts we were texting each other and I was like hey can we talk about something she goes I already know what you're going to talk about because I know that during taping no this was like right before I went out got it like literally moments before I was starting I was like mid-interview you were like no I gave her a look and it was like and it's just like the power of women and I know we get on the pod and I know a lot of people like to be like put us in a box like oh they just like hate men like that's their whole personality they hate men and not at all we love men as someone who was the most boy crazy person in like high school in college i fucking love men i love dating men i love having sex with them like i have such great men in my face i know amazing men like i've had so many amazing men inside me no rachel zo actually just did a podcast and she was talking about how like she loves great men but she hates the shitty ones and i'm like that's exactly how i feel where was I going with you well you were saying women were amazing women are amazing so like our whole personality isn't just hating men but the way that we I connect with another woman is just on another level and it's not like to it's not that it's competing with how I connect with men it's just different like okay and you guys should connect with each other also like is that why your ex-boyfriends are jealous of me probably I think that I trigger men

25:19Paige DeSorbo: because they can tell when I don't respect them. Yeah. And I don't do it like I do it very subtly. I think it's more like I might not laugh as loud as they want me to or they just don't like that I'm taking up space in a room that they're used to taking up space in.

25:36Hannah Berner: No, men can, for how dumb they are, they can clock when someone's clocking them. Like I had a boyfriend meet my best friend from high school for the first time and I hadn't seen, and we lived at that point me and my girlfriend had lived on like different coasts so it wasn't like we were seeing each other all the time and we happened to both be in California and I just started dating this guy and I was like oh my god you have to meet him let's like go out for drinks she was with him I'm not kidding less than 15 minutes she squeezed my hand and goes what are you doing? And I had a moment where I was just like, oh my God.

26:21Hannah Berner: But he would not see, he would not bring her up ever again. If there was a, if there was a time where like I could possibly see her or hang out with her, he wanted nothing to do with it. And not that she was ever rude to him. Like she would never do that. Like he didn't know that she didn't like him, but men can clock when there's other women in the room that aren't falling for your bullshit yes also when i meet

26:48Paige DeSorbo: my friend's boyfriend or something i'm not meeting him as another woman no i'm genderless i'm a soul genderless i'm a soul in the room meeting another soul and i'm not i'm not being girly and i'm just

27:01Hannah Berner: right because it's not like this is a potential employer a potential date i'm not flirting with

27:08Paige DeSorbo: you yeah i am a raw soul meeting you as a soul and that is like that is how i come into this space and you're not gonna pull a fast one on me and i'm not gonna be mean to you either i think maybe i scare them because they can tell that i'm observing and i rarely observe yeah i'm not observant i'm normally a chatty little kathy no and that is why people that is why men will

27:34Hannah Berner: immediately like their immediate defense is will you listen to your friends or like you're acting like your friend it's like thank god thank god someone's looking out for me because you're

27:44Paige DeSorbo: certainly not but also if i love us being like and this is how you stand up for your friend what you should do when i meet you with a new man i look at you first yeah because i know who you are in your soul and if you're if you are putting on a different energy it's not your fault it's his fault yeah so i go what is he reflecting onto you that's making you feel like you have to overcompensate you have to make yourself smaller you can't laugh as loud that's when i say no no no i would like i would like hide i'd be giving my recluse

28:24Paige DeSorbo: you were wearing you were you were wearing outfits i didn't recognize

28:31Paige DeSorbo: pastels you were wearing florals

28:33Hannah Berner: someone had to check on you you were in florals we were all scared at home we're all nervous

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33:45Paige DeSorbo: performative when the camera's on trying to be supportive that's what it is which i can't no camera on him i can't when the camera's on being like look how much i love her when they're rude on camera i'm like imagine how they act without the camera imagine and imagine how tired we are

34:03Hannah Berner: so that was one thing i loved her oh i loved michelle randolph who is also from land man she was so sweet so sweet i felt so bad for her because there was a moment where i had completely forgotten about the colton of it all when i first saw like when i saw her and when she was coming up to do an interview right before we started she was like hey you're not gonna ask any personal questions right I don't even know if that's exactly how she worded it it was almost like hey you're not gonna ask any and I looked at her and I was like hey no no no I would never and then as I'm doing the interview I'm like oh my god I bet she thought I was gonna say something about that disgusting loser who stalked the fuck out of her sister it made me again pissed off because I'm like here is this beautiful gorgeous young girl who is here celebrating the phenomenal job she did as an actress in her show that's getting nominated and she's thinking about your loser ass and if some random question is going to come up about your psychotic did you see that whole Vanity Fair article Vanity Fair miss me with that did you see Colton did a whole article with Vanity Fair I didn't see it and they were like the interviewer was like obviously we have to ask about this like what's going on with you and Michelle or not what's going on but like no the one that's on the show's name is Michelle the one that he stalked is Cassie yeah so the interviewer asks him like and his answer is oh well if they wanted to ask me any questions i'd be happy to answer them and i had a xanax addiction at the time get this man off my internet why are you pushing this so much also another thing since we're talking about traitors and i didn't watch this season because i actually couldn't stomach it oh yeah but as someone who watched Rob's season on Love Island I despised him on Love Island I thought that he was so manipulative and everyone was falling for it I kind of can't stomach the praise he's getting

36:17Paige DeSorbo: okay as someone who watched every second of the season of Traders but not Love Island not Love island i just watched traitors this finale um fast forward if you don't want to hear about it um whole i couldn't fall asleep that night you would have actually broken a wall you would have a la man punched a wall so maura maura and rob therefore they make it like their besties because they're both on love island we find out later they met once before the show when tara and johnny

36:52Hannah Berner: are legitimately best friends and i heard that for the show they said like no rob's a traitor no one would listen to them so there was a moment if there's anyone i'm listening to it's a girl and her gay bestie you would have done the research you would have died there's a moment okay there's

37:08Paige DeSorbo: a moment rob is a traitor eric is a traitor and eric by the way sweetest man in the world worst traitor ever he's like pissing himself every second he has to be a traitor i don't even know who that is who is eric he's a singer um and rob like picked him i think because he's weak and like if he fucks up it doesn't affect rob so and then there's tara and johnny and tara and johnny are like eric and rob are traitors so then there's a fifth person who's who affects everything and

37:38Hannah Berner: that's cracking the case more than a girl and her gay like i i'm sorry and when i tell you

37:43Paige DeSorbo: So Tara pulls Maura aside and is like, Maura, I trust you. You trust me. I'm telling you. Rob and Eric are traitors. And she's like, I don't think. I don't think so. I don't think so.

37:57Hannah Berner: And then. The power of an attractive man in the United States of America to get away with hypothetical murder on this show is so. oh it's it's an it's alarming it's alarming there was a moment though where maura looks at tara and

38:18Paige DeSorbo: she goes i see it you're right so then she goes back to rob and the this is the thing it's we've all seen this with our girlfriends before yeah where they know the guy sucks they know he's probably cheating on them or they know that he's not right for them but they don't want to believe it because then they'd have to admit that they've been duped duped the entire time so that was like so human of mora but you're watching it and there was this moment where they're going around if mora had voted for eric or rob they could have had this like feminist moment of tara and mora being the winners of the traitors and the girls winning and maura turns and votes tara and tear and then this was the hardest part so tara gets voted off after tara's like this man is the traitor as she's walking away rob goes and he didn't this is what's the thing about rob he didn't mean it in a mean way but if a man said this to me i would have sucker punched him he said goodbye sweetheart oh i would have fucking killed him if you call me sweetheart

39:29Hannah Berner: i would have fucking on a nice tuesday i would have been mad but so so then are you kidding if i'm walking down the streets of new york city and someone says hey sweetheart i'm turning around and being like kicking you in the shit you mind your own fucking business dare you disrespect me like that so then this is the problem so maura is convinced eric's the traitor she's like so she

39:55Paige DeSorbo: half believed tara she's like eric's a traitor could not be rob could not be rob so then when it's rob and her look at each other and he's like early on he's like we're gonna win this thing we're gonna win this thing now i could see you being like oh me and my faithful friend are excited we're gonna win this thing he's too sure they're gonna win it like that's traitor behavior to be like we're gonna get out this person this person then we're gonna win it and she's smiling and hugging they're holding hands there's an intimacy to them i'm just saying this allegedly i think either they fucked or they just had this like really intense emotional thing going look if i

40:32Hannah Berner: had a nickel every time like a good-looking man like truly deceived me i wouldn't have to do this podcast anymore no like and there's moments we've all been there where we know he sucks

40:46Paige DeSorbo: but you're like this attention feels really nice right now even though it's like it's um deviant attention it's sinister attention there's almost here's the other

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46:41Paige DeSorbo: digmatized you would have known and i'm like you look exactly like me every time i'm talking to a tall man with a good jaw um yeah and rob is he's also to win traders you have people have to trust you and you can't be too loud i was thinking like i would get voted off immediately because they they hate a loud woman they hate a loud woman and we're not loud by the way they're suspicious we're the same as a man but we'd be considered loud women yeah um so anyway she wait isn't that

47:12Hannah Berner: crazy that we're actually considered loud women when i like people say when i when people say

47:18Paige DeSorbo: confident women i'm like a man we act like a man when i rarely speak you've never spoken before

47:25Hannah Berner: i don't speak you've never said a word in your life and people are like she thinks too highly

47:32Paige DeSorbo: of herself she's disgusting i i also think because i'm a little rough around the edges people really hate when i talk like at least you have like societal femininity where when i talk people like hannah i have to you you i have to it's more palatable when you say it like i'm gonna be so honest me and you have said the same things on reality tv yes mine get taken differently

47:55Hannah Berner: because no because i know how to make myself smaller because i feel like at a young age because i modeled at a young age i and i would never bring it up i because i didn't want people to ever know because i would be scared that they would be mean to me about it i learned really quickly how to make myself really small in a room so i can go back and forth and that is why you

48:21Paige DeSorbo: actually did so well on reality tv and i didn't because i've always taken up too much space in a

48:31Hannah Berner: room when i felt like i needed to be heard yeah where the men hated that yeah and everyone was like you no no not you how dare you sit the fuck down not you where you are better at subtle

48:46Paige DeSorbo: cunning jabs i'm better at mental mind games and let me just say not a lie has ever been said by me

48:54Hannah Berner: never that one i've never lied no you haven't i don't even know how never which is why i'd be a

49:00Paige DeSorbo: horrible traitor but anyway samora gets out rob i mean sorry gets out eric and eric and rob gets out eric so it's just her and rob and you could see in her head she is she's blushing like she's like we did it and then you have to say if you're a traitor or not she goes so far as to joke with him and go i have to tell you something i'm a traitor just kidding i'm a faithful and rob has to pretend like he's surprised yeah which is upsetting and then he's basically like i'm a traitor the light in her eyes die yeah that was the most incredible scene i've seen in a long time but i do have to say it's a game and rob played it he didn't he your job is to deceive like i so i can't i'm not mad at rob and i'm not mad at mora i'm upset that this is the world we live in that a white man is so much easily trusted why is every drag queen voted out first save these queens

50:15Hannah Berner: the rate in which women will trust a man because he's slightly good looking and trust his word over tens of hundreds of like it's kind of crazy and i feel like you can see it very clearly on reality tv like that is why sometimes reality tv really gets like studied in certain college classes because watching how many people you could have four women line up and be like he did this this and this to me and the other women be like yeah and he also did this this and this to me and they'd be like but you provoked him like you were asking for it the misogyny of reality tv if you list all the horrible things that the men have done and hot take the only reason tom sandoval got his ass

51:07Paige DeSorbo: handed to him as hard as he did was because people wanted to hate on rachel too yeah if it was with a random girl yeah he would have never gotten that kind of traction yeah could you imagine if a woman

51:21Hannah Berner: did what tom sandoval did but like if the roles were reversed it would be a completely it would be a completely different outcome like tom sandville's on a show right now he's on like house of villains or something if a woman did that don if you're hating too much on women

51:38Paige DeSorbo: you're actually hurting the movement stop for a second and be like and is this what i'm fighting for or is there bigger societal things than me tearing apart women and not everything is all of

51:51Hannah Berner: our fault like I get hated it's kind of funny because I can see both sides of like where I get hate and it like never makes any sense but it is interesting to see because I'm like so this is it will just it's just automatically a woman's fault like I'll get hated for staying with someone for too long but then I'll also get hated if I broke up with them it's like okay well I don't trust her because she dated him but it's like but I broke up with him it's like well I still don't trust you even though it's like okay but so i could i wouldn't have been able to win either if i stayed with him you would have been mad and now that i'm broken up with him you're still mad at the end of the day it's always going to be a woman's fault because it's just easier to blame us we could

52:33Paige DeSorbo: take it more the men can't take it do you know it's hard as every woman has seen what men are capable of but then like on reality tv when you see a man do it to a girl it's that's you projecting you get mad at the girl yeah like it's her fault when it's like we've all been in that position like that's why I'm not mad at Maura I'm like I've been her we've all been Maura why would I get mad at her yeah she's she's showing what happens in the world because I don't go into a conversation

53:04Hannah Berner: or a friendship or a relationship and my first thought is not you're gonna lie to me like exactly my i have the opposite thought i'm like well no i'm dating you you're my friend why would i think you're lying to me but then i have to do investigation and be like wait you were lying

53:21Paige DeSorbo: looking back though i do think it would have been iconic for her to be like regardless i don't want to share this with this man even if i lose like fuck this man but she really like loved him do You know, Maura also, she went on Love Island right after she got cheated on. Her season was iconic. So she told me, she told me, I watched a video of her. Ipso facto, she did kind of tell you. She told me through the phone that she went on pissed. But she's so funny, naturally funny, that she was just like being crazy in the best way and passionate it and and having no nonsense for men but what was so sad is she was like I've been cheated on my whole life and it was interesting to see like this pattern like the world is almost like giving you the same result until you change and not that it's her fault but you wonder why you keep finding yourself with men that are capable of such deception yeah like I've I go for a different type of issue man i've never been in the unless if every man's cheated on me and i didn't know but i feel like i would know because i'm a woman yeah um some people go for cheaters some people go for narcissists some people go for both i go for like controlling narcissists see they that doesn't that they know that i'm and i like to think it's because i like a challenge yes oh god controlling narcissists they love women who are strong and yeah powerful because they come for me they come for yeah they come for me and they disguise in the beginning and

55:08Hannah Berner: then they trap me and then i'm like now i have to cook up a plan like i don't understand the

55:13Paige DeSorbo: psyche of it but i could see a man being like i would love to be with a beautiful woman like mora and then cheat on her for my ego yeah and that's how you turn it and not blame mora yeah it's not her fault she's so pretty and her glam skills are so good it's not her fault that some good-looking man literally tricked her i kind of love how mental healthy this episode is because i have one more mental health moment to start the week off fuck yeah hannah thanks so i actually would tell everyone like okay intuition versus anxiety it's different but like we don't really know how to tell like we've all been lying we're like yeah I could tell we can't tell until I learned anxiety comes in a question so when you get a thought that's a question that's not intuition so if you get a thought like is he cheating on me that's anxiety if you get a thought he's cheating on you that's intuition when you sorry I have to go about my days differently now oh my god and then if you have a past tense thought that's just depression like you always do this you always do that that's not intuition that's depression or a story you tell of yourself like this is so you that's not intuition that's depression um because we all can make up stories about who we are any story is not intuition sorry not me just like going through my whole life intuition is a statement like before we went on stage before you went to perform your netflix we both went i'm ready for this that's intuition and that's why we weren't nervous oh girl what an

56:55Hannah Berner: episode honestly i didn't need this on a tuesday morning i know i know we did not need this um no i needed to speak to you though i needed to vent if you moral of this episode truly sometimes you just need to talk to your friend or listen to giggly squad like you just need to get like taken out of your brain cycle and then you have to have a different perspective yes and

57:23Paige DeSorbo: someone who sees you authentically and not like the stuff you've been making up wait can i call myself out for being a misogynistic monster okay so my mom flew to toronto to literally like manage me like came in my hotel room made sure i had enough liquids like talked me off ledges folded my clothes like literally every second walked in like put put me in my body suit like took care of every second took notes during my sets to know what edits are like she did everything she has a notebook during my sets the other day i made my mom get on a zoom

58:04Hannah Berner: because my mom is an accountant it's not like i'm just like bringing my mom my mom is a professional woman and i saw her with her glasses and her little pen and i actually my mom is sitting in the crowd with her notebook and that'll actually make me cry because it's that is just like you have to talk to your friends sometimes you have to women are so important that's so important no one else is doing that for you except your fucking mom and I had this magical moment when

58:31Paige DeSorbo: I was on stage and you're you're still scared you're like holy fuck this is the special I've been working two years for this moment and she was wearing this light blazer and somehow in the darkness I see her blazer and I see that she's smiling like I saw her teeth smiling and I like got this rush of confidence that I was like we're in this we're doing it like your mom's there for you then i get a text from my dad who wasn't able to come i think he was also i think he was one nervous and also he had to like do a couple things i think he was like also last time he like heard that there was free catering for the crew and just kept getting in line for the free catering so it was whatever but um also my dad and i are very connected emotionally where like he doesn't have to physically be there like he's my coach i love him to death so i get a text from him the next day on saturday baby you've worked so hard for this just go out there and be yourself love you and in that moment i was like isn't it funny to think that like you're still their

59:33Hannah Berner: child no i know like you're still like the baby they brought home from the hospital

59:38Paige DeSorbo: i was this close to posting this on instagram being like i love my dad so much thank you and then i stopped myself i said wait wait wait wait a second this man is anything nice on the internet This man is sitting at home, sent me a very nice text, and I'm about to be like, oh, my dad. My mom is out here doing my laundry right now. She's rewriting my stand-up set. She's organizing everything, and I'm like, daddy sent me a text. Daddy.

1:00:07Hannah Berner: Daddy remembered. And half the time, half the time, I know my mom has said, hey, send a text. She probably told him, too. 100%. Meanwhile, he sent me that text.

1:00:18Paige DeSorbo: I got teary eyed I said this man I'm so lucky to have a dad who's so special we're no better than a man we're no better we're no better so let's you guys keep eyes and ears open out here no one

1:00:30Hannah Berner: can be trusted okay no and just remember like maybe you're not having a horrible day and it's like you hate your life maybe you just have to call your friend you love your friend the way

1:00:41Paige DeSorbo: You love a theme. We love a theme. You go. And that's why friendship is the best.

1:00:46Hannah Berner: I love to wrap things up with a bow.

1:00:49Paige DeSorbo: One thing you love is a bow. You guys, thank you for giggling with us. We love you so much. And we'll talk to you later this week. Bye.

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