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Giggly Squad

10 Jun 2025 · 57m · 19 chapters

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Giggling about muses, stalking, and the end of an era

In short

The hosts riff on TikTok “muses,” stalking/rumor dynamics, the end of a “beautiful era” (summer/old routines), and big life transitions (egg freezing, rebranding, dating psychology). They also discuss pop culture (Ginny & Georgia, Materialist, and Sex and the City reboot) and share personal anecdotes (lip liner mishaps, location sharing, an edible arrangement, and a mistaken Pilates signup).

Guests

No named guests appear in the transcript. The episode is hosted by the “Giggly Squad” (multiple hosts speaking on mic), with references to people like Hannah, Grace, Paige, Daphne, and Josephine, but they are not introduced as guests.

Key claims

Men may be “evolving” in dating/behavior; location sharing should be avoided (especially with men); egg-freezing hormone shots can cause temporary breast enlargement; dating patterns reflect unresolved “wounds” and confidence shifts across decades.

Notable examples

JoJo Siwa/Fletcher/Billie Eilish kissing men; Paige Bueckers rumor confusion; a “muse”/Julia Fox-style “Hannah-coded” edible arrangement; Sex and the City reboot complaints (Carrie’s phone-sex storyline, Miranda’s changes); Materialist as a modern dating-coach rom-com; Mary Todd Lincoln play “O’Mary” with cabaret/alcoholic portrayal.

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Chapters

2:15

Reflecting on Changes in Life

Discussion about personal growth and changes in their lives over the summer.

“And I think we're masterminds on TikTok because everyone's going to stop and be like, this clip on Violet, is that color yellow legal to put on a camera?”
4:06

Pop Culture and Celebrity Relationships

The hosts discuss recent surprising celebrity relationships and dynamics.

“And I think we go OG, like, black, like, with the giggly squad.”
6:20

Transitions and New Beginnings

Exploration of feelings surrounding major life transitions and new chapters.

“So I'll just immediately pick up my phone and start scrolling.”
8:52

Community and Support

Hosts express gratitude towards their audience and discuss community support.

“I feel, you know, like when you make like a drastic switch in your life and you're like, and before you do it, you're like, but how am I going to feel when I do it?”
14:00

Edible Arrangements and Giggly Moments

The hosts share humorous anecdotes involving edible arrangements and their experiences with friends and celebrity interactions.

“I was like, I'm not letting all this fruit go to waste.”
20:10

Location Sharing and Relationships

Discussion about sharing location with friends and partners, and the implications it has in relationships.

“But the holidays you guys are hosting, you have your cat and you have such a to-do list, you know, hiding things in closets, pretending you're clean, pulling out the snacks.”
21:45

Life Updates and Fashion Choices

Hosts discuss personal updates including fashion choices, shopping experiences, and their evolving styles.

“You never have to stick to one personality and people don't talk about it enough.”
25:32

Egg Freezing and Hormone Changes

The hosts discuss the experience and effects of egg freezing, including unexpected hormonal changes.

“Then the, like then that week after my retrieval, you're like waiting for your period.”
28:00

Reflections on Dating and Self-Worth

Explore how past relationships reflect self-esteem and personal growth.

“Well, there are so many times where people expect you to be like, oh, and my immediate reaction is like, okay, get over it.”
30:56

Family Dynamics and Relationships

Discuss the impact of family dynamics on romantic relationships and friendships.

“Wait, you know what we don't talk about is that Charlie XCX is, like, engaged, but, like, she so de-centers men that, like, people don't even know.”
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33:10

Insights on Modern Dating Experiences

Examine the challenges and realities of dating in today's world, especially for women over 30.

“Like I'm like, who was that who just talked to that person?”
37:28

Critique of Sex and the City Reboot

Discuss frustrations with the 'Sex and the City' reboot and character portrayals.

“They're now ruining the original series.”
42:00

Reflections on Iconic Characters

Discussing the impact and representation of female characters in shows like Sex and the City.

“They should do a show where one of them gets asked to do Housewives and she doesn't know what she should do.”
48:30

Theater and Current Trends

Discussing experiences and opinions on recent plays and the culture surrounding theater.

“Oh, you watched Sex and the City last night?”
56:00

The Tonys: Fashion and Fun

Discussion about the recent Tony Awards, fashion highlights, and attendee celebrities.

“Did she have like a ton of alpha changes?”
57:20

Theater Experiences and Personal Stories

Sharing personal experiences with theater, dates, and memorable plays.

“I will say I went out on a date one time with this one guy.”
59:30

Broadway Dreams and A-List Celebrities

Exploring the motivations behind A-list celebrities performing on Broadway.

“I didn't see any inkling that the man was going to kill himself.”
1:01:20

Future Family Plans and Parenting

Discussion on potential family plans, raising kids, and parenting styles.

“Like, probably under an hour to get to Greenwich.”
1:05:00

Daphne's Launch and Future Products

Announcement of the launch of Daphne and future plans for product restocking.

“And she's like but if you are I would love you still.”
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2:09Paige DeSorbo: what's up my gorgeous gigglers we're going classic we're going og oh in the studio

2:14Hannah Berner: and we're saying gorgeous in the living room in our friendship i feel like i've turned so many I've turned Hannah-coded in like so many different situations where like if you would ask me like five years ago I'd be like you know and now I'm like I love it

2:29Paige DeSorbo: I've subconsciously been turning you into a rat I like I kind of like now I'm like so into that

2:35Hannah Berner: like our studios ugly like I love it I like I'll see a clip on tiktok and I'll stop because not Because I'm like, it's jarring. And I think we're masterminds on TikTok because everyone's going to stop and be like,

2:52Paige DeSorbo: this clip on Violet, is that color yellow legal to put on a camera? Did they actually vomit on the wall? It's like that sound that only dogs can hear. Only gigglers can see it.

3:03Hannah Berner: No, I saw a giggler actually posted like, if I were to design the Giggly Squad like studio and she was. Burn it. I mean, it was like insane. She did such a good job. I'm like, that would be a trillion dollars. But I've been thinking because who works in the summer?

3:19Paige DeSorbo: I love how we only talk business on the pod. Like we will not address it. And then you sit down, you go, new meeting on the docket. Well, we're all in the same room. What do we do in the studio?

3:28Hannah Berner: It's a problem. My thought is this summer, like the summer is basically over. First of all, let's not even talk about that. Summer's over. Summer's done. Done. Which is insane. Blink of an eye. I'm stressed about the fall. It's literally Labor Day weekend. It's Q7. I think in the fall.

3:47Paige DeSorbo: We go, we start anew.

3:49Hannah Berner: We start anew.

3:50Paige DeSorbo: It's so funny. I talked to Grace about this this morning. I said, text Paige, because I was like, I don't want to go too hard at her. Like, you do it from the side and say, like, should we? I think we have, like, a space. Yes. We go to a space. And we fully together design it.

4:04Hannah Berner: And I've been seeing, like, all the different curtain vibes that people are doing. Like, what's our coloring? What's our thing? You know? And I think we go OG, like, black, like, with the giggly squad. I think we go pitch black. Well, because it was really our colors were hot pink and black. Yeah. And then we turned. Yeah. We don't know. We don't speak of whatever this color is. Yeah.

4:26Paige DeSorbo: Yeah, I chose it.

4:27Hannah Berner: Then we had, like, remember our old studio had, like, that wood paneling.

4:30Paige DeSorbo: Yes. Yes. Look, we've gone through a lot of eras. Yeah, we really have. But you know what I can say? You were in your creative era. She's Van Gogh. She sees things and she goes.

4:41Hannah Berner: wait i'm so creative right now it's like a monet up close it's really blurry but far away it's

4:47Paige DeSorbo: gorgeous i have to let you know that i did put my lip liner on before this pod but i realized very quickly that it was like it needs to be sharpened so i think i'm bleeding um

5:00Hannah Berner: i'm actually not even gonna address that i also cry for help i don't have like the mental capacity move on have you ever tried the lip stains because i feel like you're like the perfect candidate for it because you're always complaining like oh my lips like lose color and stuff a lot of them can be drying okay and then

5:20Paige DeSorbo: you have to like put a lip on after i've bought them got it that's all that's i bought actually what I was asking. I bought the one that you pull off. Yeah, I bought it all. Okay. I'm not waking up the morning and like putting that's too many steps. I want to be in the Uber and be like, fuck, I forgot to put lipstick on and then put it on. There's something going on in the water right now. There's a couple girls are dating men that I didn't see them going to that side. okay JoJo Siwa okay Fletcher okay and Billie Eilish was seen kissing a man now I am no one to talk because I kissed a man a week ago yeah

6:09Paige DeSorbo: Jess pops in hey yeah but this is unsettling

6:17Hannah Berner: it's unsettling because usually we see it the other way around we see it like where women are like and i've had it and i'll go to the women's side yeah we rarely

6:27Paige DeSorbo: see it this is this means it's it's setting us back men might be evolving with new tricks yeah

6:33Hannah Berner: or we may just be tired the girls are tired and but maybe we forgot joe the jojo siwa because you watched that season of love island with me he was on that season of love island that we watched in the bed wow because it was like one of the very first seasons i only remember curtis that's he's very curtis they're kind of similar okay yeah like they dance the jojo siwa one though like that i i'm still i think about it every day yeah and it's you want to know what i like about it though she hasn't changed any of like her mannerisms her outfits like it's not like she's like oh and now I'm with a guy so I need to feel be more feminine she's like no this is who I am yeah and like I just I like kissing him for the moment so I do have to say for it kind of men love lesbians and as someone who is um lesbian passing guys look guys love a little a little

7:37Paige DeSorbo: sports chat they love when you're wearing a jersey they get hard-ons for that wait sometimes

7:42Hannah Berner: I was like, I'll watch TikTok in the middle of the night because I'll wake up and like, I'll be like, oh my God, if my thoughts start going, like we're in for it. So I'll just immediately pick up my phone and start scrolling. Nom, nom, nom. They don't want the sound because I'm like, I want to fall back asleep. So I'll just watch like soundless. And then if it's something I'm really interested in, I'll do like one click up. I scroll past this video and it's a picture of me. And then it's a picture of Paige, the NBA player. Oh, Paige Beckers.

8:10Paige DeSorbo: Yes.

8:10Hannah Berner: Wait, I think I saw this. I'm watching this video, no sound. And I'm like, oh my God, are they saying that we're together? Are people putting us as a couple? And then I like raise the volume and it's just like the name Paige is like real. And I'm like, oh, okay, sorry. My bad. Freudian slip.

8:29Paige DeSorbo: I was like, sorry, you put me in a lesbian relationship, I thought. I love how you're starting your own rumors about yourself at this point. You're starting conspiracy theories.

8:37Hannah Berner: I mean, I left reality TV this week. I feel like who's going to start rumors about me if I don't now.

8:42Paige DeSorbo: Can we have a moment of silence? Let's. Which we've never done. Thank you. Thank you.

8:51Hannah Berner: The end of a beautiful era. I feel, you know, like when you make like a drastic switch in your life and you're like, and before you do it, you're like, but how am I going to feel when I do it? Like, what if I regret it? I was like dealing with that. I was like, but what if I like say it to everyone? Then I'm like, oh my God, no, I want to go back. I really feel so aligned. You can Tom Brady it if you want to. Totally.

9:16Paige DeSorbo: That was just, you know, a sports ref.

9:17Hannah Berner: No, then I feel like one of my like the freshman in college going back to like her high school. Like, yeah, when I was here.

9:23Paige DeSorbo: No, you're chewing gum with your car keys.

9:25Hannah Berner: Oh my God. Is Miss Leibowitz still here? When I slept in that room for the first time. I got fingered in that hallway. So anyway. No, I feel. I feel good. it's kind of also like graduating college like you're like oh this is sad but like no i want to go to the next step yeah like i'm excited yeah and then like whilst you're doing it you're like you have a flashback where you're like oh i wish we could go back to college like that was so easy yeah like i'm sure i'll have that but like i just feel like i give i gave all i could get but we also people don't talk about like people do talk about it marilyn monroe but like nothing

10:02Paige DeSorbo: lasts forever yeah and you you ever get a job when you're younger and you're like this is what i'm gonna do forever like yeah i'm obsessed with this or you meet a guy and you're like this is me now yeah and then in a couple months or in a year i mean look at beyonce's daughter roomie is that her name roomie yeah i think so so my favorite video on the internet right now is her going on stage the first show yeah being the happiest she's ever been she is over it coming on like the fourth show she's like we got it we got it this is my mom my sister's gorgeous thanks no she looks at the crowd and she's like i don't give a fuck yeah i'm my i'm over time at this point i don't get paid enough for this shit yeah um so anyway i do think there's so many beautiful

10:43Hannah Berner: things that happen the fact that i'm starting my summer and no one's gonna say to me what story would you like to tell this summer is just i just feel like what do people do in the summer

10:55Paige DeSorbo: i mean the world is your oyster as i said season one i'm so excited it's so exciting i'm gonna sleep so much i mean you already did i'm literally you've been sleeping no but it's it's a freedom it's such a weird job that it was such a weird job and you can't explain it to people yeah you really can't and it's yeah but i also i did see like some comments here or there and people were like oh no like we're gonna we're gonna miss page or whatever And it's like, but then people are like, well, we've have her on Giggly Squad every week where actually you get more of her.

11:28Hannah Berner: You get way more. I literally just have to listen to Daphne. That's it. And she doesn't say anything. And Grace. And I also I need to thank the Gigglers because, well, when this comes out, Daphne would have launched. And just with like the email subscriptions, like I know it's Gigglers. Like, you know, like I know when like my team is like, oh, this many people signed up and like in an hour, they give me an update. It's the Gigglers. And it just makes me, I was so emotional all weekend. Like I kept tearing up because I was like, wait, the girls are like showing up. And it was just very sweet. And I'm wearing the Hannah tee.

12:05Paige DeSorbo: Hell yeah. I love it. It looks so comfy.

12:07Hannah Berner: Wait, I also have to talk about you for a minute. Uh-oh. Hannah sent me an edible arrangement to congratulate me on the launch of Daphne. And in the card, she wrote, congrats on the Hannah tee. I then go on Instagram and I see her comment and her comment was from the Queen Julia Fox that she was, what is the guy's name? Brian Softee's Muse and Uncut Jam.

12:36Paige DeSorbo: I was Josh Softee's Muse and Uncut Jam. So Hannah Coded. So I realized, is it a lot of responsibility being your muse? Yes. Every time you see me, you're looking at what inspiration I bring to the world.

12:49Hannah Berner: I literally said in an interview the other day, I was like, and you can wear the pants with Crocs. And I was like, oh my God. I was like, sorry, I had to do that for the Hannahs because like if not, I just made everything for the Patriots and they're going to feel left out

13:02Paige DeSorbo: and I don't want them to be sad. I love how the Hannah, you're like, we have to keep the Hannahs okay. They will revolt. They're loud. They're loud.

13:11Hannah Berner: They could be pissed off. They will forget though. So like that's what we bank on. We're like, they forgot and now they're napping.

13:17Paige DeSorbo: No, I don't know where that quote came in my head because I was like, I always feel a lot of pressure sometimes to comment. I feel so pressure. Well, I was just shafted. It was when I got on cut drums. And then I looked at fucking, then I'm lying there with butter and I'm looking at her and I said, have you ever worked a day? Have you ever worked a day? I said, you have a bad attitude. You treat people the wrong way. There's been bad reputation about you on sets. So you haven't even been invited to a set. And you look at her and you're just like, you're not pleasant to be around. But, But I also, I was talking to Grace because I was like, we have to send her something.

13:54Paige DeSorbo: But I'm like, everyone's going to send her flowers. I'm like, I'm special. Yeah. Like, I'm special. It didn't even fit my refrigerator. I literally had to eat it same day. I was like, I'm not letting all this fruit go to waste. I said to you, don't leave it out because the gnats will come. Yeah. Not speaking from experience, but I did have an edible arrangement to sit around for about a week. And we had to like burn the house down.

14:12Hannah Berner: Is that because you watch Sirens?

14:15Paige DeSorbo: No.

14:15Hannah Berner: Oh. No. But edible arrangements, I think, are like hilarious. They are fun. Like right when I saw it, because I like got home. And so like I saw it when I got off the elevator. And in my head, I was like, who the fuck sent me a fucking edible arrangement? And then opening the card, I was just like, wait, this is so funny. A girl sent me a meme. And it was like, it was, look, we don't like to talk political on Ghibli Squad because like we want you to like have an escape. But someone sent me a meme and was like, I'm so sorry, but this is so giggly coded. And it was like, Elon Musk was like, OK, you know what?

14:55Hannah Berner: You actually wouldn't have even won it without me. And it was Donald Trump being like, OK, well, we spent way too much money on it.

15:06Paige DeSorbo: Ginny and Georgia. Did you know it was coming out? I'm a Ginny and Georgia. I knew it was coming out, but no one told me what episode. No one tells me anything. Well, no, no one emailed us or anything. The Googlers were like, we love how you guys keep things secret. I'm like, we don't know what's going on. I was like, I am in the dark like you. Someone DMed me and goes, what up? So I go, I have no fucking idea. So if you want to know how this stuff works, a year ago, they were like, can you guys record this for Virginia Georgia? We're like, we'd love to. And we just recorded it on our couch.

15:38Hannah Berner: And then we never heard it.

15:39Paige DeSorbo: And then we never heard again from them. I was like, well. At one point, I was like, they caught it.

15:43Hannah Berner: you know i thought they did cut it too well they cut that it was giggly squad it was gonna be giggly squad because it went more with the story yeah it was like a murder podcast but so fun so

15:53Paige DeSorbo: fun so many people are watching it's like number one on netflix right now so we are actors i feel

15:58Hannah Berner: like i always say this when i interviewed the cast of ginny and georgia at the people's choice awards they were brianne howie was so nice to me like they were just all really really nice she

16:08Paige DeSorbo: also looks nice like you know people have nice faces like i'm like you're a sweetie pie yeah Like, she can't be mean. And I actually met her at the Almost Pregnant premiere. Yeah. Where, kind of pregnant premiere, where I did the worm. Didn't see her after the worm event, but beforehand she was really, really nice.

16:26Hannah Berner: Yeah. One thing I wanted to bring up to you, I was texting one of my girlfriends. Other friends? Okay. Start with a fight. And I noticed. Did they send you edible arrangements? No, I noticed her location and we were like around the corner from each other. And so I was like, oh, I'm going to like run to like where she is and just like see her on the street. She ended up like being in a hotel, like at a conference. And I was like, sorry, OK, I guess I can't come in. But then I got to thinking you and I have never shared locations, shared locations ever. And I feel like I have all of my girlfriend's locations and they have mine.

17:09Hannah Berner: And there are so many times where I'm like, well, where is she? But is that part of the fun with us?

17:14Paige DeSorbo: It's like, where is she? It's the only person who has my location is my mom. Yeah. That's the only person. I don't have Des's location. Have I ever had a boyfriend's location? You've put tracking on their cars. No, but I've done.

17:29Hannah Berner: No, I know. I'm like, wait a minute. I don't think location sharing was a thing. Yeah. Until like the past couple of years.

17:39Paige DeSorbo: I feel like in our days when we would go out, I could see that being so fun to be like, are the girls out? And like, where is everyone?

17:47Hannah Berner: Like, you know, you're like not sure if you should go out at like 930. But if I was like 22 and I had a boyfriend, he had my location, that would have been worse. In no situation with that. See, my mom was just like, hey, you haven't moved for 49 hours. I think don't ever share your location with a man. No. Never. Even if that's your dad.

18:07Paige DeSorbo: No. Well, let's be honest. Dads don't know how to use it. Yeah, they would never know. My dad doesn't know how to post an Insta story.

18:13Hannah Berner: Yeah. But I don't think that a man should ever know exactly where I am or what I'm thinking. And put that on my tube spot.

18:23Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. Tube spot. Put that on a t-shirt. Put that on a t-shirt. I actually had a funny mistake. Hmm. which aren't they all. I may have one of those said that. I went to Pilates a long time ago in LA. Yeah. And I signed up for it. And I felt so like organized. I signed up for Pilates in a different state. Like that was like a new level of admin for me. And I get there and it's like, she's like, she calls everyone's name and she doesn't call my name. And I was like, that's just for like, who's here. Yeah. And I was like, that's weird, but like, whatever. and I continue to do my Pilates class whatever I leave yesterday I get a notification that I missed a Pilates class in LA so I had signed up for a class like three months in advance and just showed up to class and took the class wait a minute three months ago you signed up for a Pilates class

19:20Hannah Berner: because you're like oh I'm gonna be in LA in three months no I was in LA signing up for that

19:28Paige DeSorbo: next morning i think the months must have been like wrong okay so i signed up for a random in three months showed up like i signed up for the class got it did the class i guess with enough

19:39Hannah Berner: confidence what do you think the instructors were saying after like we have a we had a vagabond she doesn't even go here they must have been like a little confused but i think like i fit in so well

19:54Paige DeSorbo: yeah that they were like no one's scamming us but like i fully took a class for free but then got me yeah so anyway or they were like she's mentally disturbed don't go near and just let her she's a little confused gigglers the holidays are coming in arm and hammer hardball cat litter and i are making sure all my fellow cat parents are guest ready you guys know i'm obsessed with cats i'm a cat missionary and make sure everyone in my life has a cat and i'm doing really well at it i foster and I'm constantly trying to help cats find homes and around the holidays I basically want everyone I know to fall in love with the cat and take one home.

20:27Paige DeSorbo: But the holidays you guys are hosting, you have your cat and you have such a to-do list, you know, hiding things in closets, pretending you're clean, pulling out the snacks. One thing I do not need to add to that list is worrying about cat smell. Arm and hammer hardball cat litter keeps odors under control and forms compact clumps that make cleanup easy so that part is already handled in the background so then I can focus on my guests and maybe convince one of them they need a cat for all my fellow cat parents be guest ready with arm and hammer hardwall cat litter find it now at walmart or amazon everyone's mood is better when the sun is out everyone's mood is better when you're on vacation and it's a dopamine hit we all deserve but I finally found a way to bottle that feeling and

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21:29Paige DeSorbo: From morning meetings to late night giggling, you smell delicious all day long. It's my biggest hack to keep that endless summer feeling alive.

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21:44Paige DeSorbo: One thing about me is with the new season, I like to have a new personality. You never have to stick to one personality and people don't talk about it enough. No, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person.

21:57Hannah Berner: Okay, the weather totally changes how you feel and it's obviously like getting a little cooler out and I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

22:05Paige DeSorbo: And part of rebranding is getting new clothes and that's why I love Revolve. They have everything I need to be a completely new person that no one's ever met before. Whether it's denim, such as an eggled barrel jean. I'm so different when I'm wearing a barrel jean. People do respect me more. I'm a creative director of somewhere. Then boots with a little kitten heel or a high heel. When I'm wearing boots, I command a room.

22:32Hannah Berner: Yeah, and don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner. I'm having a time

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25:31Hannah Berner: I have a fun update and I'm asking this because I want to know from the girls that have frozen their eggs. Okay. So freeze my eggs. Great. Then the, like then that week after my retrieval, you're like waiting for your period. I got my period. Great. I have that for like seven days. Okay. That was like two weeks ago. My boobs, huge, massive, have not gone down whatsoever. I'm like looking it up. I'm like, is this like a side effect of like freezing your eggs? Like, are they? And they're like, not really. Like it usually like goes down immediately after like you stop giving yourself the shots because then your hormones are going down.

26:12Hannah Berner: I don't know if my boobs just like didn't get the memo. I've never had bigger boobs in my life. I'm so excited. and I'm really praying that they don't go away because then yesterday I was like oh I must just be getting my period again that's why they're so big and so I texted Josephine because we've like synced up and she's like no we have like two weeks left I love what she says we but I'm obsessed

26:33Paige DeSorbo: wait it's giving when girls were saying Accutane was making their nose smaller yes and some girls

26:38Hannah Berner: say spironolactone makes their boobs bigger but I didn't experience that when I was on spironolactone

26:44Paige DeSorbo: I, not a doctor, think that you actually needed estrogen and your body's just like responding really well to it.

26:52Hannah Berner: I truly think that when I hit puberty, something like didn't go right. And then like I was fucked up from there on. Because I never had a regular period, even in high school. But no one said, no, everyone was like, okay, cool, doesn't care.

27:09Paige DeSorbo: This is why hormones are like actually so important. And like men have hormones too. It's just like they're dealing with testosterone. We're dealing with estrogen. You dealt with testosterone. Do you feel different in other ways? Have you been nicer to people? No.

27:27Hannah Berner: I like cried. I've been like more emotional a little bit, but not like overly emotional.

27:33Paige DeSorbo: Well, like appropriate for a circumstance. Yes. Like not like numb. Yes. Not like stone cold Steve Austin.

27:40Hannah Berner: Appropriate for a circumstance.

27:41Paige DeSorbo: Yeah, you're reacting as you should have in the past.

27:48Hannah Berner: Sometimes I have a reaction and I'll think in my head, yeah, that's a normal person. Keep doing.

27:57Paige DeSorbo: Wait, this is Paige. What would a normal person do if my best friend's pet does?

28:02Hannah Berner: Well, there are so many times where people expect you to be like, oh, and my immediate reaction is like, okay, get over it. that's what people are like can page act i'm like yeah yeah do you know how many times i've had to pretend to care about a lot of things and i'm like wow i don't give a fuck literal well i'm happy for you but i would say the whole like finding your feminine energy i think it's

28:34Paige DeSorbo: all bullshit the right guy will love you yeah a la jojo siwa no matter how masculine you are be you no feminine energy when it tells you to like be more quiet yeah or be more like astute

28:50Hannah Berner: to his needs fuck him no i like you know how like girls say like you can see your mental illness through the people that you've dated if you truly if i truly went through my 20s and all of my boyfriends I could tell you exactly what I thought about myself in that time period and like I could tell you where when I had high confidence I could tell you when I had low confidence I could tell you when I was like literally flailing and this guy made it seem like uh so it's they say the

29:19Paige DeSorbo: person that you settle for is who you believe you deserve yeah which is straight up a fact but then you think about some situations and when you're dating a guy who like yeah you don't know if he's fully into it and you don't know if you're even into him but you just like want something it's like yeah do you want him or do you want to talk about something that happened in your past that's

29:40Hannah Berner: still bothering you and also if like someone doesn't like you back and you're like trying to get them to like you you have to realize that they're triggering something like in you that you have to prove to them like there are so many situationships i feel like in my 20s where 20s where I was like you don't like me perfect now I have to move all the reasons why I'm amazing

30:01Paige DeSorbo: in your 20s I think because you're still becoming who you are you immediately don't think like oh he's not the right guy for me you're like oh I did something wrong like let me try that again like yeah I just had to reframe myself for him yeah where now my 30s if someone didn't like me I'd

30:14Hannah Berner: be like ew you have horrible taste and I'm like I actually don't like you first I didn't like you

30:19Paige DeSorbo: first hot take two is that the person you ultimately end up with also is going to like like his demons have to be right for your demons yeah you are still like solving a wound yeah it just you hope that it's in like the healthiest way so it's like you're not going to just find someone where everything's easy it's more like what wound works like when you started dating

30:42Hannah Berner: Des did you go into it like being like these are my wounds or did you like not even know until you were like in it and you're like oh he's helping me solve

30:52Paige DeSorbo: yeah well I've never dated an older guy before so I like I really was like this is so random like public schools are so random and everyone in the audience is like you have daddy issues and I was like I've never met a guy like this before why did I turn to Charlie XCX I'm just like have a brat summer with an old man like whatever yeah and I do think like Like, every now and then he'll say something to me, though, that sounds like someone.

31:15Hannah Berner: Wait, you know what we don't talk about is that Charlie XCX is, like, engaged, but, like, she so de-centers men that, like, people don't even know.

31:21Paige DeSorbo: Well, she's like me because we, like, love the gay community. But we, like, if we speak about being straight, it's, like, embarrassing for us. Yeah. George.

31:32Hannah Berner: That's her husband. Or her Beyonce. George. Yeah.

31:34Paige DeSorbo: George.

31:35Hannah Berner: I love it.

31:36Paige DeSorbo: I was like, has anyone checked on George? but it doesn't like do certain things like that i'll be like oh my god my dad has said the exact same thing to me or like my brother would have said that or my like he reminds me of family which i think is important so but family is obviously complicated sometimes it's like oh this feels so like home and sometimes i'm like oh like okay that reminds me of a girl who like needed to hear that yeah kind of thing oh interesting yeah okay fun cute or sometimes you're like oh wait when I heard that in my past I would have reacted like this but now I react differently okay yeah it's because also it's even like friendships like we bond for a certain reason like yeah you remind me of my whole family like you are Nana you know I think you know what I

32:24Hannah Berner: think you remind me of I think you remind me of like my childhood friend and so I think there I I think that like when we first met, there was like a certain like comfortability where like you were familiar. I was like, oh, you remind me of like my friend from middle school.

32:41Paige DeSorbo: It was giving like we've known each other. Yeah. Also, I do feel like your relationship with Gary is your brother is similar to you and me. Yes. Gary's like a well, no, he's shy. Yeah.

32:52Hannah Berner: But then he's like not shy at all. It's similar to our relationship because when we are together, it almost is like we're speaking our own language. Yes. You know, like we can joke with each other and someone can be like, oh, what is that? And it's like, it would be too long to explain.

33:06Paige DeSorbo: Well, you'll like talk to someone else and be a completely different person than when you like turn to me and Gary. Like I'm like, who was that who just talked to that person? I was like, okay.

33:16Hannah Berner: Okay, let's normalize. Everyone gets a very different version of me.

33:21Paige DeSorbo: But also I would argue you are the same. People bring out different sides to you. Like I've seen a lot of your sides. Yeah. And some people are luckier to have better sides. Yes. And that's the diplomatic way to put it. That is so true. What I also just realized, you know how it's true. We talk about it. Like if you start dating a guy and all of his exes are really different from you, not just like hair color. I'm saying like completely different perspective to life or completely different way she carries herself. I think that's weird as fuck.

33:51Hannah Berner: Yeah.

33:52Paige DeSorbo: And I feel like with my friends, I'm the same way. where like I've actually had like looking back besides Becca who again our friendship was based on humor and she was not girly at all but like all my friends going back were like girly and popular who like they liked something about me and they took me in but they had some of them had like toxic traits that I was like oh shit like I can't do this yeah and like it's got I found like better people for me over time but they're all like loosely oh yeah no I could do that with girlfriends like when I met Stephanie I was like oh it makes so much sense I'm not like a random kind of human like you love these kind of people that are like warm and I love I like loud people who are like

34:38Hannah Berner: I oh my god and I just thought of another thing to say and like oh and have you heard about that and like can just yap because I like to like take the pressure off myself and I can just sit

34:46Paige DeSorbo: but then it's funny when you really feel comfortable you turn into the yapper yeah then i'm yapping and you've been yapped the yapper has been yeah been yapped um anyway we love each other um we um watched materialist that's premiering in theaters only on june 13th we got early access i do have to say it is a star-studded cast we have dakota johnson chris evans who is definitely up there in my celebrity crushes and every time i see him i'm like you get better looking and that's men which is in a whole nother podcast um and then pedro pascal who is the it boy daddy wait let me just say one thing before we like totally get into the

35:31Hannah Berner: movie dakota johnson people don't talk about her style enough and i feel like in the movie like everything she wears i'm just like you look phenomenal but like her red carpet style She doesn't miss.

35:42Paige DeSorbo: She plays a dating coach. I think in another life I'd want to be a matchmaker. Like I'm obsessed with matchmaking.

35:50Hannah Berner: See, I feel like it's so stressful, but it's such a good depiction of like what our modern day romance is currently because I have so many friends who have dating coaches now. Really? Like dating coaches and like matchmakers because people like are kind of sick of apps, I feel like. Yeah. and so I keep seeing them on Instagram like pop up and all of this stuff so I feel like it is a really good depiction of what it's like as a woman dating in your 30s especially especially

36:20Paige DeSorbo: when you are over 30 yeah because they were saying it's like these girls don't need it but they're like if I can have like pay a little more to have a luxury dating experience because I can afford it I will but I've never seen dating explained in such like cut throat like not sugarcoating it ways where she was like okay we want a guy who makes over you know 150k at this height and then if he doesn't have his hair he has to make this amount of money yeah it was so like

36:47Hannah Berner: scientific data of dating and also gave you the other perspective of like men being in their 40s and being adamant that like they're not going over the age of 27 like there's one scene where she talks about marriage has always been a business decision and how like different it is for women now. It was just so interesting when it comes to dating. It's also just like a classic love triangle that like has nuances and like very for today's world.

37:14Paige DeSorbo: Go see the film in theaters. See all these beautiful faces on a big screen. It's so cute. Rom-com girls night out. I'm obsessed with this movie. Materialist is out in theaters June 13th.

37:27Hannah Berner: I have to say something really sad this is like so sad and i can't believe i'm gonna say it sex in the city like the reboot i'm such a defender of the reboot of sex in the city like last year people were like it's the worst show ever and i'm like guys give it a freaking chance let them stretch yeah like who cares we're literally watching for like the outfits yeah like everyone was like iconic like she could do anything and you're like right and you're just like it's fine like okay it's cheeky It's a little like not as serious as the original series. And like, guys, you're being too harsh. It's an entertainment show.

38:08This season, I'm livid.

38:12Hannah Berner: I'm so livid because they're now there. I think HBO needs to get it together. HBO needs to get it together. They're now ruining the original series. none of the characters are anything like how I would picture them to be in their 50s. You're telling me that Carrie fucking Bradshaw has a storyline where she's like with her boyfriend of like 25 years ago and it's about like phone sex. No. Miranda is not Miranda. So it's like that's why we even talk about it. Let it out. Charlotte like she's not that ditzy. Charlotte is a strong like bring her back. Speaking as the Charlotte of the group, she's smart.

38:58Paige DeSorbo: Bring her back.

38:59Hannah Berner: Give her her own gallery that she had started. Why did you keep her as this housewife fighting in the park about dogs? No, that is not what Charlotte came out to be. I hate to get heated.

39:13Paige DeSorbo: Right now, with this energy, let's keep it going. Let's reimagine where they should be right now. So many different places.

39:21Hannah Berner: Actually, the new characters, like I like them better than the old characters. Yeah, because I feel like you have a vision for them

39:28Paige DeSorbo: that they're not like upholding.

39:29Hannah Berner: And I'm so sorry. People were really mad that like, oh, Miranda's a lesbian now. No, that legitimately happens. She's always been a lesbian. But I'm like, okay, who cares about that? Like that actually does happen so much. I liked that. Is she running for mayor? No, why not? Why not? She's the assertive lawyer. She's not some like, oh, I don't know. She should be dating this other power lesbian who runs the WNBA. She's not dating a power lesbian? No, she can't even get a date on the show. And I'm like, oh my God, guys, no.

40:04Paige DeSorbo: This is so antiquated. Just because she's a ginger doesn't mean she can't find love. That's so 1990s. They make Carrie so like - Carrie should be the fashion editor of - Anything. Anything.

40:17Hannah Berner: Literally anything.

40:17Paige DeSorbo: Like a cool indie mag she's writing on.

40:20Hannah Berner: They have her living in this gorgeous home though.

40:21Paige DeSorbo: so like i love that she should be like the head like consultant for like the real real

40:27Hannah Berner: yeah like i make her okay there's a woman the woman that created moda operanti it's like a clothing store make her that like what are you talking about she didn't like she's not doing

40:38Paige DeSorbo: anything in like she should be selling her vintage clothes while and i'm just like i'm sure there's

40:43Hannah Berner: multiple women in their 50s that could have given you a list of actual problems that women in their 50s are going through that's why i liked the original sex in the city because i thought oh my god in my 20s am i gonna have to deal with that what's oh my god is that gonna 30s it was

40:58Paige DeSorbo: so realistically raw to be like in your 30s you're still getting fucked up at bars sometimes

41:02Hannah Berner: and saying what's my purpose the first season of sex in the city they were 32 yeah okay i think that also needs to be pointed out to the facebook moms but now i'm like i wanted to watch this because what are some problems i might have in my 50s that i would have never even thought about Not really. Not really.

41:23Paige DeSorbo: Not really. And I'm livid. What should Charlotte be doing? Charlotte should be dating a hot equestrian guy.

41:31Hannah Berner: No, Charlotte's married. Let's not put her in a divorce. Is she married to the bald guy? Yeah.

41:35Paige DeSorbo: He's not. He should have gone to Turkey by now, come back with new hair. The storyline is, does she like him with his new hair? Period.

41:42Hannah Berner: That's three episodes right there. You're welcome. Charlotte's very mom-focused with her kids and stuff, which is like fine but i want them but like i'm like i'm like charlotte running around as like worrying about her kids getting into college is not charlotte's smarter than that she has more things to yes obviously worry about your kids getting into college but like she's not running

42:04Paige DeSorbo: around gossiping some priorities your children doing well in school fuck them like no but i do think there's so many amazing women in their 50s especially in new york city with the craziest That's what I'm saying. They should do a show where one of them gets asked to do Housewives and she doesn't know what she should do. Make it realistic.

42:22Hannah Berner: Put us in the writer's room. That's what I'm saying. Carrie Bradshaw is also such an iconic television character. She chose to get married, not have children. Her husband died. She's now dating someone else. I'm sure that's so relatable to so many women, but it's like, why aren't you talking about the fact that she didn't have kids? It's huge. Why doesn't there be a whole episode on that? talk about it they don't really talk about it she just kind of says like oh i didn't have children

42:49Paige DeSorbo: but i also think that's so relatable to so many friend groups who like one friend decided to have seven kids one friend has not i just wanted one friend wanted kids didn't have them i just wanted

42:59Hannah Berner: it to be more serious and it's like okay this is like not a real your storyline is like like sitcom-y i thought it was gonna be more like i wonder if it's like different editors or different writers it's gotta be it has to be because i mean the fashion is a little wonky too i'm like guys i get it it's like different and no one it's very emily in paris like it's over the top i mean carrie always looks gorge yeah but like no it makes me sad no it makes me sad too it makes me sad and i so now i've like been watching the old stuff because i'm like no those are the girls that's their personalities their new personalities not even them maybe this is them in a different

43:39Paige DeSorbo: lifetime where things maybe they took Botox and it hit them wrong no they don't do work on their

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45:27Hannah Berner: That's why I'm obsessed with stars and honey they basically looked at protein bars and said why are we choosing between something that supports our goals and something we actually want to eat each bar has 15 grams of protein and only four grams of sugar but the flavors are giving dessert honey iced lemon cookie mint chocolate chip red velvet peanut butter mousse hello who even knew peanut butter could be a mousse because

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48:30Paige DeSorbo: I go to plays now. No, what is going on? Because I think I'm better than you. Oh, you watched Sex and the City last night? I was at a play. I was where we were at a saw. For me who don't know, I'm trying to go out to the Hamptons.

48:43Hannah Berner: I got into the elevator today to come here, and my sweet, sweet, sweet next-door neighbor, he looks at me and he goes, did you go to the Tony Awards last night? And I was like, no, I didn't. And then in my head, I was like, little do you know, on my podcast, I fucking hate musicals.

48:59Paige DeSorbo: I was like, no, but it looked like a lovely evening. So the one thing I think you should see, it's not a musical, so get that smug look off your face, is O'Mary. Have you heard of O'Mary? No. So Colascola wrote a play. Pardon? Their name is Colascola.

49:18Hannah Berner: Are they part of the Coca-Cola fortune?

49:22Paige DeSorbo: They may or may not be. Okay, sick. They wrote a play about if Abraham Lincoln's murder was actually good for Mary Todd Lincoln, his wife. and that Mary Todd Lincoln is an alcoholic wannabe cabaret singer and how she like...

49:42Hannah Berner: Why did they make Mary Todd Lincoln in the Wanda Lassaps? They're like, she'll have a cabaret show.

49:48Paige DeSorbo: And there's hints that Abraham Lincoln... Was gay. It is the funniest thing I've ever... I don't know if it was like... At first I was like, is it just like the room or the vibes? I thought it was the funniest thing I've ever seen and I don't laugh at things.

50:05Hannah Berner: wait why is it so funny to actually think about how many gay men there had to have been in the 1700s they're all gay i mean capris were trending you think a straight man did capris

50:16Paige DeSorbo: wore wigs whenever they had a meeting there was someone that was like wait what about a high sock they were ballet flats ballet flats one said wait let me put a bow i think that'd be adorable Also, they were like, I don't want to write without a feather at the end of my pen.

50:35Hannah Berner: Someone was like, did you see George's curls? Like, no, literally get a proper blowout.

50:40Paige DeSorbo: Straight men with a full blowout weave and then writing with feather pens. It's giving the Glee Blonde. No, it's. Then their signatures were, I'm sorry, like so. Gorgeous.

50:53Hannah Berner: Gorgeous. I've seen my brother write his own name.

50:55Paige DeSorbo: He looks like a fucking four-year-old. These guys are writing like John Hancock. That's a gay signature.

51:04Hannah Berner: How'd you even get that last name? That was around the time where you could pick them yourself.

51:08Paige DeSorbo: Also, hot take, only men are allowed to go to war. It's giving golf trips. It's giving you guys all just want to go hang out and fight each other. Kiss each other. And then they love their accessories when they go to war too. No, the colonial men were gay. The artfulness of their outfits is crazy.

51:25Hannah Berner: I need a historian who, like, specializes in gay men in the 1700s.

51:31Paige DeSorbo: It's one thing if when they went to war they were wearing, like, armor. Right. They literally were just wearing fancy outfits.

51:36Hannah Berner: Because if you can compare them to, like, the, um, who are, like, the Norwegians. Oh. Okay, the gladiators. Or the Vikings. The Vikings.

51:45Paige DeSorbo: The Vikings had, like, bones of animal tusks in their head. You could tell. Apparently they, like, created STDs, the Vikings. like they've spread their fucking seed. I could so see that. But like they probably had nice blue eyes.

51:59Hannah Berner: Yeah. They had really good hair I feel like too. Sorry I just had a sex dream. But anyway so then like I feel like the colonial men were like I'm not loving the hat wear.

52:10Paige DeSorbo: Also I have this is fucked up but like it's hard to know if someone's British or just gay. And like we are descendants a lot of us of the Brits that came in. Not me and you. No not us. Not us. but it was the Brits, the Dutch. We're not responsible. We're not involved in any of the original drama. This play is not about us. Not about us. We were trying to like make tomatoes. No. My family, no. There was olive oil involved. We don't know what they were doing. Were we fighting the mafia in Sicily? Yes, but that's our own issue. Yeah, we were doing literally other things. So anyway, the show was amazing.

52:50Paige DeSorbo: Go see O'Manxi. and but it's funny because i was like i'm not gonna like this play about history i hate history i don't want to know about why we should learn from i do love a period piece you love a period piece the funniest thing about close school is they were like i did literally zero research on

53:06Hannah Berner: her and this is just how i felt there's so many political figures and men that there's like i feel like so many rumors that they're gay like there was a rumor that jfk was gay yeah his best friend never got married there's a lot of roommate stories a lot of roommates if you're going to

53:28Paige DeSorbo: the south of france together that's a honeymoon you're coming over for christmas dinner oh you're sleeping together that night i mean let's i do have to say now that we're in our 30s if you meet a guy in his 30s with a roommate okay yeah figure it out get us i'd rather you have a studio

53:46Hannah Berner: Why don't more men want to be gay? We would like you so much more.

53:52Paige DeSorbo: Come out. I do think, though, in Hollywood, it's still, like, archaic, where if you find out the guy's gay, he's not going to get the leading Hollywood roles. So that's why a lot of them are in the closet.

54:02Hannah Berner: No, all the Bridgerton men are gay, and I still love them.

54:05Paige DeSorbo: Are they?

54:06Hannah Berner: Just one, but.

54:07Paige DeSorbo: Is Jonathan Bailey gay? When I watched Wicked, I touched myself to him.

54:13Hannah Berner: No, his season of Bridgerton, like his sex scenes with like the girl that he ends up marrying. Yeah, like here, I'm in it.

54:21Paige DeSorbo: Do you know why I love gay men, which goes back to the beginning of what we talked about? Because they are the ultimate, I can never have them. Like they are the ultimate challenge. The ultimate challenge. I'm like, that man will never want to fuck me and that is my type.

54:35Hannah Berner: Yeah. That is my type to a team.

54:36Paige DeSorbo: That's biological.

54:37Hannah Berner: They don't want to fuck you.

54:38Paige DeSorbo: Jonathan Bailey is so good looking.

54:41Hannah Berner: So good looking.

54:42Paige DeSorbo: um also i watched the tonys last night because i was oh they were on tv they were on tv last night oh i didn't even know i know well i didn't tell you because it was a lot of singing so i assumed i mean i couldn't imagine but it started with this thing it started with cynthia arrivo okay and she's like i think she's gonna go down as like a whitney houston of our generation i i feel like

55:06Hannah Berner: they're gonna get like a ton of oscars this year i just think it's weird that they didn't give them

55:10Paige DeSorbo: anything before because i don't like that whole like well wait for part two to come out i want my shit now yeah but i think that's true that's so annoying though i didn't even know there was a part two until a couple months ago neither did i yeah and i'm worried about what's gonna happen

55:23Hannah Berner: no one tell me a spoiler i'd assume they're not doing another press tour oh they are oh i mean

55:30Paige DeSorbo: these poor girls yeah but what's interesting about cynthia rivo is she actually had an album come out in 2021 that no one listened to and then ariana gave her some like positivity and also like wicked did so well but now she's like has another album coming out but it's just so interesting there's so many talented people that like put stuff out there and no one listens to it yeah and it's like you wonder yeah i'm just so great that cynthia found her way for us to be to watch her host the Oscars and be amazing. Host the Tonys. Sorry, the Tonys, the Tonys. Oh, she hosted. Yeah, she was the host. Yeah, she's like dominating.

56:08Paige DeSorbo: Did she have like a ton of alpha changes? So many. She's wearing Schiaparelli in the beginning, which you know is our brand. You love. I'm, yeah. Obsessed with Schiaparelli. You're amused. I'm amused with Schiaparelli. They reach out, hey, we saw the Daphne shirt and we know you're behind it.

56:26Paige DeSorbo: Ben Stiller was there, which was random. why is Ben Stiller popping up everywhere he made a joke about the Knicks game he's like men look men love talking about the Knicks yeah they love it yeah the Knicks lost I know there's a big crossover between theater and sports fans which is kind of funny people laugh that's funny um he's funny yeah what else Adam Lambert was there okay I love Adam Lambert let him sing more let him sink nicole schlusser yeah she won a tony oh and you saw that play and i saw you're sorry no i'm like in it no i was like oh okay interesting i was like i'm keeping i feel like

57:03Hannah Berner: me talking shit about musical theater it's like gonna get to a point where you're like can you

57:07Paige DeSorbo: stop wait can i put out a i just had a um intuitive moment yeah the same way how you were like i hate

57:14Hannah Berner: cats and i was like now it's my mission no no no no no in four years she's gonna be starring as

57:19Paige DeSorbo: Roxy on Broadway. No.

57:23Hannah Berner: No. Well, if the money's right, obviously. Wait, I go to plays now. No, you like go to plays now. I will say I went out on a date one time with this one guy. It was like maybe like our second or third date. Or was it our first? No, it had to have been like our second or first. Yeah, that would have been insane. And we went to a play. And I remember feeling like so New York City.

57:49Paige DeSorbo: we left at I was gonna say halftime we left at um it is it does feel so New York it's so New York I honestly prefer it to a movie okay come on now you've hit your head when I'm like going to the movies like I'm gonna go somewhere I want are you kidding me sweat you're sick you want to sit in a

58:10Hannah Berner: chair that's two sizes too small and stand in a line and they don't even really have any good snacks I just have Raisinets.

58:19Paige DeSorbo: You know they do eight shows a week? It kind of made our tour. It's crazy. They're all dying. They all literally were at the Tonys like, I'm so tired. Thank you. I have to go back to my place tomorrow.

58:31Hannah Berner: No, anyone on Broadway listened to my beta blogger episode and was like, fucking loser. Suck it off. No, that's all I say when I go to plays. I'm like, and then they're going to do this again.

58:44Paige DeSorbo: I told you my like I had a demonic ex-boyfriend who was like so negative all the time and he was definitely depressed but like I didn't see it because he was so hot though he was so hot and he was miserable to be around but no one knew everyone was just like you guys are so happy together but I'm like why when I'm with him do I feel like the world is full of doom and gloom yeah I told this story before but it's just so funny at the end of the first half he looks at I mean, he's like, this place is so obvious, this play. It's so stupid. And, like, he's smart.

59:14Hannah Berner: Oh, you've told me this story.

59:16Paige DeSorbo: And he was like, he's going to kill himself? He goes, it's obvious the main guy's going to kill himself. I said, what? And I assume, like, he knows things because he's smart and tall and hot. And I was like, wow, I literally missed that. I didn't see any inkling that the man was going to kill himself. And I'm like, this is going to be really heavy, this play. So, like, it goes back on. And the whole time I'm like, that man's about to die. Like, he's going to take his whole life. Lips. No one died. No one died. I left that play. I said, you're a sick fuck. Yeah, you should see Cal. Get out of my life.

59:46Paige DeSorbo: Dated him for six more months. We have to plan your escape. But it is funny when you see like A-list people like Sarah Shook, Snook, Shiv Roy from Succession. You're just like saying, oh, yes. Oh, okay. Yeah. She's on Broadway. Yes. The star of Hacks has her own show on Broadway. No way.

1:00:08Hannah Berner: Oh, yeah. I did see that advertised.

1:00:10Paige DeSorbo: and all and then George Clooney George Clooney as a show babe you were when this summer it's been

1:00:19Hannah Berner: hold on it's called I forget George Clooney is currently in New York right now doing a doing a stint on Broadway yes well who's at the Lake Cuomo house

1:00:31Paige DeSorbo: so it's interesting how these A-listers like have all the money in the world they've done all the biggest things and they're like you know what I want to do like torture myself doing Broadway but it's such a beautiful art I guess well here's the thing too they want it you got

1:00:45Hannah Berner: there was no TikTok there was no nothing it was theater camps if you wanted to be an actress it was like you have to go to this camp as a child in the summer or it was like probably have theater training is what you're saying yeah so like that is I feel like how you broke into entertainment think about how many people they were probably friends with that they like came up and now they're like oh let's like all be in it where we have kids like posting on youtube and then rising to fame so there's no like but like after watching oh mary i was like do we need to write a play

1:01:14Paige DeSorbo: like i i've page is like no i haven't slept in 32 years i'm tired grandpa no we're not writing a play okay

1:01:27Hannah Berner: wait you as Roxy though no I no do you know how not only is that like physical energy it's mentally you have to memorize everything you have to memorize the dance numbers you're so good at memorization I am really good at memorization but then you have to physically go out there and do it no

1:01:51Paige DeSorbo: no were you ever diagnosed with dyslexia no

1:01:55Hannah Berner: I just wanted to know did they say something recent no no he didn't mean something but i'm too old now i can't do any of the dusting they're like you don't have to take an exam it'll figure itself out that's been my response to everything the kings get worked out over time

1:02:17Paige DeSorbo: it'll figure itself out um last weekend des had shows in stanford connecticut yeah and as a not not a joke but like i was like oh wouldn't it be fun if like i went with you and i like opened for you but i was like joking i love

1:02:34Hannah Berner: you're always letting the gigglers in i'm like okay so last time i joined nana with my husband

1:02:41Paige DeSorbo: this is how i went about it he on burner phone does this whole thing he's like we have i have a surprise guest coming to my connecticut show like i don't want to say who it is but it's a big surprise and we get off and I go who are you talking about it goes you I was like oh I just said that like I was I didn't say it's gonna happen yeah oh well you don't have to but like I kind of hinted at it yeah and the next thing you know we're driving an hour and a half to Stanford Connecticut and but it was fun because I got to like kind of surprise the gigglers and

1:03:10Hannah Berner: go on stage what were the vibes that Connecticut was giving like will I move there and like have

1:03:15Paige DeSorbo: a family Greenwich is fancy like we had to go through Greenwich it's its own world it has a lot of greenery. Chris is from Connecticut. Do you want to speak to it, Chris? I think Paige ends up in Greenwich. In Connecticut? Yeah. In Greenwich, specifically. Yeah. How far is it from the city? Like, probably under an hour to get to Greenwich. Your kids are going to be such little douches. Such dicks. Not you, Chris. Really,

1:03:41Hannah Berner: I do wonder, like, if we both, like, have boys. Like, I feel like how many times in my head, like, when they're teenagers, I'll just be like, you're the worst. because at the end they will be boys yeah i hate to say boys will be boys no i can't give birth to

1:03:57Paige DeSorbo: a boy you're literally like adding to the world ending i hate to say it but like i feel like i

1:04:05Hannah Berner: keep being like oh my god i can't give birth to a boy but like i'm gonna be such a boy mom i feel like i'm almost gonna like too girly to be a girly mom because i'm like no that's mine actually

1:04:13Paige DeSorbo: can't have that well angel or psychic said there is a boy waiting to come so i think it's i think I think I love a boy first. I think it's going to be a boy. Last thing. I don't know if I were starting this at the very end, but have you considered like raising your kids in the city? Yeah. Because I could see that for you if you're not like freaked out. It has incredible schools. The kids grow up around like more diversity and like more culture, which is like shapes who you are for a long time. They're going to go to the ballet.

1:04:40Hannah Berner: They could go to a play. Yeah. I want them to be in a music theater camp just to see if they like it. And I want my daughter to walk out and be like, this shit is lame. and I'm like that's my girl. Get in the car.

1:04:51Paige DeSorbo: I was hanging out with a mom in Connecticut this weekend and she has kids who are like 16 and 12 and she literally looks at them and she's like if you guys are gay like I actually want you to be. And the boys are like we're not gay. And she's like but if you are I would love you still. Are you sure you're not? She's like poking bothering you. She's like are you sure you're not gay?

1:05:09Hannah Berner: Me to literally every ex-boyfriend.

1:05:12Paige DeSorbo: I'm like I'd love you more if you were. Please come out. Do you think he's hot? It's just so crazy, the different generations. I forgot what I was going to say. That's okay. And I think that's how we know. And that's how we'll wrap it up. That's how we know we're done.

1:05:26Hannah Berner: Daphne is officially out, launched. Thank you so much for ordering. She's alive. And if we do run out of certain things, I just want to say this. If we do run out of certain things, we'll be restocking later in the summer. I have one dress that we're definitely putting out this summer because I need it to be out. so if you weren't able to purchase anything don't worry we're gonna but also it could have not been sold out but I don't know now I'm like oh

1:05:56Hannah Berner: but anyway thank you guys bye

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