Giggling about perfectionism, parties, and padel

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1:48Paige DeSorbo: what's up my greasy gigglers it's friday friday everyone's in the friday

1:54Hannah Berner: you know i got dressed this morning and i was like oh my god so cute like preppy she's giving beach house she's giving second home and then i got on the zoom and i'm like i'm just dressed like

2:04Paige DeSorbo: hannah no but when you do it it's chic i'm obsessed with it you look like you're in boarding school and just gave your first hand job and you like don't know what to do and you don't know if it went well or not i'm like it's sticky and like it kind of smells no one warns you no one tells

2:22Hannah Berner: you that it does in fact smell that's something you learn on your own his dick the calm i would

2:29Paige DeSorbo: say oh i try not to get that close i think the first time i was like oh guys gross i would get into it but i'm pretty sure i have a 15 minute bit about um how back in the day we used to like swallow and stuff on my upcoming special so anyway we're gonna have to save that anyway um wait i

2:49Hannah Berner: wanted to bring up your special because i wanted to make it about me for a minute please please please how you know that you have a true real friendship with someone no seriously listen to this like it's so easy to be happy when your friend is happy like oh my god like we're going out tonight or like something whatever but when your friend is stressed now mind you when you were filming this special i was getting a massage but i knew i knew how stressed you were for the trailer to come out that like when it did get posted i felt relief i was like you and now she

3:34Paige DeSorbo: doesn't have to worry about that you know well you also sent me the cutest sweetest funniest text she goes i realized i never texted you for your trailer and i had a parasocial relationship instead congrats which is basically she commented on every photo i posted she reposted everything she was on a full pr campaign for me yesterday and then was like hey sorry i didn't text you

3:56Hannah Berner: directly are you mad and i was like i'm no better than someone on reddit like i literally made up

4:01Paige DeSorbo: that i have a friendship with this woman and every now then when you do something like really big i i turn into a fan and then i'm like if i text her she really busy right now is she doing it right now like is she on set now we had an airport moment where i was like i'm gonna show you this trailer and i just want to see your thoughts and that was like the test like you didn't realize it but if you didn't have a decent reaction to it and i didn't need you like laughing hysterically i just i just know when you like something yeah and you had a great reaction and i was like i don't go fuck page liked it we're good and that's how you have to be with creativity like if the people you care about love it as much as you do you go for it and also we're just talking about the trailer

4:45Hannah Berner: right now but i'm just a real perfectionist you really are it's actually exhausting you think my hair cycling is exhausting listening to you like make art is so exhausting well people don't talk

4:57Paige DeSorbo: about it i'm i'm a virgo moon people never talk about it never brought up in any of these you know

5:02Hannah Berner: thought thought things that people post it's not brought up because no one i feel like i have a front row seat to you as a business woman it's not it's not relaxing there's nobody i know other than hannah that will start something and then halfway through be like this is horrible i can't believe you guys even let me get this far i'm changing the whole thing when i fail i feel fast

5:29Paige DeSorbo: and i'm i'm i love to move i love change i will pivot i'm a pivoter but also by the way just so you guys get a glimpse behind the curtain so grace sends us all these clips from what happened on the pod and page literally is like love cute can you actually like um change the background of

5:45Hannah Berner: that or like can you not use my face in that one well sometimes grace picks the most diabolical screenshots of me and i'm like grace act like you've met me before grace thinks you're beautiful

5:54Paige DeSorbo: in every angle that's why and i will come in and be like grace at 0.4 seconds there's like two and i'm like we can't post this this is not good enough and then i'll be like at 0.75 seconds you have to cut that faster and then like do actually like a cgi moment over my head when i say this joke page doesn't respond grace and i are in like eight hours of editing i'm like hannah's skin color is giving orange so maybe we change the lighting but everything else is great you guys are crushing can you make the hannah look aesthetically pleasing for like a second but that's the thing Like when I'm with an outfit, I'm like, I'm stressed about editing clips.

6:30Hannah Berner: I don't have time. My favorite thing is like when we talk about merch and you say, Paige, what do you think? I'm like, sorry, it's my time.

6:39Paige DeSorbo: Also, actually, we don't know where Grace is. She's supposed to be on this virtual. We don't know where she is. And Paige said, tell Grace to join at her own leisure. And I just want to say a shout out to you for like thinking of words. I talk for a living, but I actually don't do words. You talk for a living. you love a word well you know what not like a full sentence a word i it's true i could make

7:03Hannah Berner: one word my whole personality i love a word that has an alternative rich person way to say said word like foyer yes like foyer like i love someone that would be like oh my god leisure but then there's like a rich woman that says leisure like actual leisure like i like um um i feel like i feel like i have so many words like okay actually this is so crazy you know like the word mature sometime one time i heard this woman pronounce it mature and i i literally remember where i was how old i was what i was doing when i heard that because i was like oh my god she's not like other girls well not to talk about my husband because that's annoying but

7:50Paige DeSorbo: because he grew up in europe he says some funky ass words and at first i'm like you are so dumb you said that word wrong and then he's like google it and i'm like oh it's the european

7:59Hannah Berner: way you're actually better than me sorry sorry i actually do think that sometimes i can have actually

8:10Paige DeSorbo: sorry whenever i have a thought period whenever i thought brain explodes

8:18Hannah Berner: i saw this girl she made this tiktok and she was talking about how um women there's like a bunch of people that will do like she's talking about women that will do full studies on linguistics and the separation between men and women and things they say and they're and she was talking about how women say like a lot and i mean i've never but some other women but like how women are like oh my god all she doesn't say like and like um like that we have a lot of filler words and some girl commented the video and was like i'm actually learning about this for like my thesis in linguistics or whatever and she said from like all the studies people have done women don't get to talk a lot so we actually put filler words in because if there is a silence typically the other person will immediately start talking so we almost have to add in filler words to keep our place to let the other person know we are not done speaking and i was like oh my god we're trying to take up space we're just trying to make emotional why am i like getting like emotional like right now and the girl that made the like initial video was like i would never hate on another woman for using filler words or like or having like a valley accent because it is most common women and so why would i hate on another woman for being a woman i also love a woman who

9:44Paige DeSorbo: speak slow like this i'm like take waste a man's time waste a man's time and actually never get to the thought never fully get to the thought wow now i think of everything differently what were we saying though before we literally just started the pod and we're already we never had a direction i actually think i mean we're talking about the trailer if you approve a lot of the gigglers approve but they have to wait for you to co-sign before they jump on board well it's funny because

10:12Hannah Berner: I had a lot of gigglers in my DMs seeing if they could figure out what exact second that I said

10:20Paige DeSorbo: wow your hair looks so good like that but you know what happened you saw the wide trailer that's on YouTube this was cut down so you actually couldn't see the full hair um so anyway also Lenore is

10:32Hannah Berner: visiting right now because so the place is spotless you know like you clean before like a hookup comes

10:40Paige DeSorbo: over that's nothing like the way i clean before my mother comes over i do like to leave her some things because she likes to have a hobby and she really likes to do the dishes that's like her thing so i let her have fun but like des and i were cleaning like we've never cleaned before we were so scared wait really yeah we woke up early oh that's serious we woke up early and i was like come on we gotta go and we were like i mean this is what normal people do like once a

11:10Hannah Berner: week but do you know that i don't think i've ever seen you clean like like i don't think i've seen because i'm a feminist because i'm a feminist wait now that i think about it i don't think i've ever seen you take like a spray bottle and spray and spray something and you just say cleaning

11:28Paige DeSorbo: takes initiative and when you grow up in italian household where like the women take over i'm never used to taking that initiative you have to just even if you're at someone's house and i realize like you just have to start cleaning and everyone like respects it but i see it as like invasive i'm

11:44Hannah Berner: like i'm not gonna touch your table like i wouldn't walk into someone's home and open up their refrigerator so why would i open up their cleaning supply closet i do think too there's

11:56Paige DeSorbo: something about dinner i always hated how like when we were done eating all the women got up and took everyone's plates and call me lazy but i was like no the men can take my plate why is the why are the women doing this they already cooked it all what happens at your family holidays now who's cleaning okay well my nana and papa are perfect and adorable my nana cooks and she takes the plates but then papa loves cleaning like papa is handles all the dishes and that's how my mom and dad are too i just never like when all the men are sitting down and the women are at work i'm like what is this did you have chores as a child well this is also this is kind of the problem is that i had a full-time job i was playing tennis so it actually inhibited my chores were like and there we go does doesn't let me and that's and we've just figured it out well yeah because i'm not good at it so i don't want to embarrass myself in front of other people by being like that's how you put the dishes in the dishwasher I actually tried to do the dishes and Des was like never again like this is chaos he's like I'm not

13:05Hannah Berner: that's not where I mean what do you how how bad can you mess up loading a dishwasher I guess some

13:12Paige DeSorbo: people like it more organized where I'm like if there's an opening it's like Tetris you just figure

13:16Hannah Berner: it out well cups are on the top plates are on the bottom yes however sometimes you don't have a

13:23Paige DeSorbo: of our plate you have like a weird shaped bowl and I try to just shove it um but look we all have our our we all have our quirks we all have our things but I the truth is after school I go to tennis practice I get home at 8 p.m. I have to do my homework and I think my parents were like the girl has enough going on she can't do it she's tired I played paddle this morning how is that well I want everyone to know it's different than pickleball I'm not like on the dark side you don't have to like call the police I'm not playing pickleball Hannah actually texted me and

13:58Hannah Berner: said can we push the pod one hour because I'm playing paddle and I and you know me I don't know sports or anything but I've known I've heard her talk about it before and I said wait just checking in because one time you did say don't ever let me play paddle or I will get arrested and she takes it back and goes nope that was pickleball and I said great yes yes also sorry

14:18Paige DeSorbo: I like can't take you seriously because you dress like me right now and I've lost respect for you I'm like what is she talking about like you wait one day we should do a pod and I'll be you and

14:32Hannah Berner: you be me and we just talk the whole time like what we think the other would say I would just immediately start crying about my dead grandpa

14:44Paige DeSorbo: no i actually had a dream about him the other week and it's like why are you upcoming my dreams

14:49Hannah Berner: i had a dream the other week and my mom told me like gossip in the dream like huge and i had and i woke up and i went to my instagram because i was like is this how i get messages now like my mom sends them to me in a dream and i woke up and i had to like check my instagram for something to see if it was like true and real but it wasn't but i sat in it for a little because i was like can't be witching yeah because i was like no i had a dream that my mom came and whispered something in my ear and so and right when i woke up i was like my mom just told me something and that's really scary but anyway i do i do feel like i want to play sports i want to be athletic i want to sweat i'm not done with my battle stories but i woke up to

15:41Paige DeSorbo: play at 9 a.m yeah which is early for me and then it was so hot and i was so tired after it i was like i need to cancel all my plans like hold on wait just like to take it back for a minute what is the difference between paddle and pickleball so paddles european which makes it cool okay like people in spain and then uh south america play it it's cultured it's it's way more advanced than pickleball got it um pickleball is like is with a freaking for kids what is it what is it's with a wiffle ball which is so funny imagine someone being like wiffle ball is now a sport and like all these people are just like did you remember wiffle ball as a kid yeah i thought it was stupid yeah it's for the unathletic baseball players yeah so anyway but look if you're playing pickle i totally support you it's just as a tennis player we get like hate even in the community and like i could only handle so much within the industry and we can't have that within industry

16:36Hannah Berner: i love getting how many industries can we get in trouble with my favorite is gossiping to page

16:43Paige DeSorbo: about sports drama and stand-up comedy drama because like you have no i was gonna say gun in the fight that's not what they say in the game no skin in the game thank you you should hear me

16:52Hannah Berner: when I tell other people tennis gossip because I'm like and that's what I heard from my friend and they're like do you know any of these people I'm like no and that's what makes it so good

17:04Paige DeSorbo: like we'll be we're in tour we were like running out things to talk about and I would like see something on my Instagram of people you definitely didn't know and I go these people are getting divorced do you want to know why and then to make her interested you have to start from the beginning like I'm like she was born in a small town and you were locked in oh god yeah you're locked in but anyway how are you i'm good how are you i um oh crashed a bachelorette i was gonna i was gonna say girls girl of the week first ever girls girl of the week wait how did it end up on tomorrow like what is going on wait the first ever girls girl of the week is hilarious you are i'm so proud

17:50Hannah Berner: of you you won it thank you so much i wasn't even campaigning i'm a stickler with it you don't just get girls girl of the week well because daphne launched bridal support so like if you're going at a bachelorette support is so funny yeah bridal help email bridal support at daphne the label.com so you can like bulk order monogram things it's just like easier for if you're the maid of honor or whatever so we get a lot of emails and let me tell you something the gigglers are animated like they're giving you the plot they're giving you the full story they're giving you why they've chosen cloud over white stripe because it's just like not aesthetically pleasing and the background you know like they they tell you because they also think you might be judging them

18:34Paige DeSorbo: they're like hey i know that yellow seems like a weird choice i swear it goes with the like sunflower aesthetic that just trust us and they're like let me send you my pinterest because i feel

18:44Hannah Berner: like i could break it down more for you no so i do think sometimes they're like well what if she's reading this email which sometimes i am so that's how we found this girl we had a maid of honor email in and say like she was planning a bachelorette and it was going to be in new york city so I was like oh this is a perfect bachelorette to crash because I'm right here come to find out so we're like talking to the maid of honor we're like what if like Paige surprised the bride the maid of honor adds another girl to the email and she goes actually she knows more about the logistics this girl emails and goes okay so that was actually the bride and she's so type a that she was pretending to be me and asking for the order and um now she's looped me in and we're and sorry about that iconic icon so from that moment i was like iconic like i love a type a girl that's like actually i'll just do it myself wait pretending to

19:45Paige DeSorbo: be your own assistant is like not talked about enough and needs to be done as women in stem to be like hey Hannah's waiting for the follow-up I actually have talked to a couple of people who

19:57Hannah Berner: have made second emails pretended to be their own assistant and like always made themselves a man because like people respond better so anyway so we're like let's surprise both of them because now the surprise is like totally ruined so we email back and we're like sorry like page of schedule like it's just not going to allow it but we would love to make you a reservation for friday night or for thursday night when you guys arrive for your like welcome drinks basically like we'll make the reservation we'll set the time on us so daphne also will plan your bachelorette so daphne literally will plan your bachelorette so we had the bride and the maid of honor have no idea so i had a couple people from daphne already there and i'm in the basement it's giving punked literally and like back shepherd is gonna come out and be the leader you're just in a basement with a headset and you're like the eagle has landed so they get there the my daphne um employees give them like a bunch of matching shirts and matching sets and everything that they wanted and then they went and sat down and were like okay like have fun have so much fun like sorry Paige couldn't come whatever then like two minutes later I brought over like champagne to the table oh it was so fun and just like a like easy quirky fun cute thing like it was a great like kickoff of her bachelorette weekend like I just felt like it was such a adorable moment

21:33Paige DeSorbo: I also imagine you doing things like without me and I'm like how because normally normally I'm like how'd she get out of the house if we were doing it i would have jumped and you'd been rolling your eyes in the back but like you surprising someone on your own i'm like that's but she's so like coof you actually literally never spoken to someone like she's never really exclaimed before but you i saw the video you come in your little kitten heels and you're just like hi well you want to know what's so funny i would scare the shit out of them i'd be like

22:04Hannah Berner: during the whole thing i didn't know what to do with my hands i know that's why i know i was like she's so cute i kept like grabbing them because i was like hey i'm just like a small small girl

22:15Paige DeSorbo: no page is so shy you guys don't understand she's so shy so then when you do difficult things like that i'm always like oh my god look at her navigating the world in her kitten heel and but also like surprising someone is it's tough because you're like what if they don't respond the way you want it and then once you're there i'm like what do we talk about like yeah

22:37Hannah Berner: so how are you no i was very i was nervous to surprise them but i i was nervous that to surprise them because i thought they like knew and i was like i didn't want them to be like oh yeah obviously like here she is hey girl hey thanks for crashing my badgerette so i got like a little nervous but they were so sweet and it sucks that they have like a horrible weather weekend but well at least they're in the city doing like fun indoor things they sent me like the powerpoint for the whole wedding weekend so i knew like what the vibe was for all the outfits and like there's nothing i love more than a powerpoint that a girl makes that has nothing to do with her job and like because they're so helpful and resourceful like who the girl that made this powerpoint like she was like think skirts shorts pants like i'm like so close like she gave a vibe of like she's giving options what she should you guys should wear and i'm like

23:34Paige DeSorbo: so everything is acceptable and a go that reminds me of us in one of our important zooms which is just that should be a show in itself because page and i were like just listening to people talk but i felt like we should say anything and they were like are you ready um we have a presentation and i just go we love powerpoints and they're like uh okay and we're sitting there and at the end they go um page you have any questions and she goes i'm just happy there wasn't a quiz at the end of that i thought there was

24:05Hannah Berner: gonna be a quiz and then we got off the call because someone had to crack a joke no i literally almost interrupted and was like what in the eighth grade science class because i've almost fallen

24:21Paige DeSorbo: asleep seven times the whole point of a powerpoint is you get to press it and surprise people with a

24:25Hannah Berner: funny photo i texted hannah while we were doing it because i had literally in the moment come up with the most genius thing i've ever come up with i could not stop yawning so all i kept doing was rubbing my nose because you couldn't see that i was yawning i was like every now and then i screenshot

24:46Paige DeSorbo: page in these zooms and by the way it's not with like three people there's like 20 people and but i'm watching her believe me i'm i'm keeping an eye on her i always watch her she can't help oh and we'll wait for what i'm gonna say about you okay she goes come for me no but like i screenshot and send it to the group chat just so great to know how you're representing us in a public world well sometimes she pulls out her skincare which like at that point i'm just like that's okay that's only with people like i that i know yeah but sometimes like you like i feel like i pretend smile in this life way more than you which like i'm jealous of i wish i could have your confidence i'm fake smiling 24 7 i'm like

25:32Hannah Berner: page is just sitting there like well you've made yourself a clown for the people i didn't tell you to do that so like people expect people interact with you and they're always laughing so they expect you to also be in a jovial mood it's so hard being a light in this dark world yeah and i've given i'm i'm this close to a panic attack so don't push me and so they know so what do you have to say about me okay miss performative hannah's in the zoom doing performative chin grabs like she's gone like she's contemplating a goddamn thing she also i go what are you colonel mustard in the library with a revolver like you're trying

26:25Paige DeSorbo: to look i think everyone's watching me um i like think people are watching me and i have to show them that they're doing well yeah wait also do you know what i'm doing i'm hiding my double chin

26:39Hannah Berner: okay the other thing that i think you do that literally could make me burst out laughing in any moment that i actually have to look away sometimes is you nod and it sounds it sounds innocent enough but she does it in a like hey that's a really good point never thought of that

26:54Paige DeSorbo: and i'm like they didn't even say anything okay i'm an active listener i'm look i'm an empath and when someone's speaking and no one's reacting see i know you know how you feel for inanimate objects that's how i feel for real people and no like when they're talking and no one's reacting i'm like come on someone has to give them a little positivity so you're but you know that's why i don't like social situations because by the end i've i should win an oscar well i had it i have

27:23Hannah Berner: a team meeting every two weeks and last week i said guys what are we doing here this is an off camera zoom i get out of my face like i don't were you there for our last off camera zoom

27:34Paige DeSorbo: yeah i'm the one that started it and guess who didn't finish it who you yeah i showed up and

27:41Hannah Berner: didn't go off camera oh yeah yeah i was the first one on with one other girl and i said hey you're either with me or you're against me turn your camera off and she goes i'm with you absolutely everybody else joins they're go oh it's a no camera zoom i go and i show up two minutes late Hannah shows up two minutes late didn't have to do the intros and goes I'm just gonna be camera on

28:03Paige DeSorbo: I said she's always on camera and I just was like wait I love this attention and then everyone was talking I was nodding for them because the truth is if I'm off camera I can't trust myself I'm off camera I'm playing tennis like if I'm on camera I'm petting my cat I'm not listening to anyone but if I'm on camera I have to look at least like I care and then you care more wait I love how we just did 20 minutes about zoom calls but i feel like it's relatable no that but that's like really

28:29Hannah Berner: pertinent to my everyday life so yeah like we use legal jargon in everyday life yeah so i love a

28:36Paige DeSorbo: little zoom joke in the beginning and then i could calm down once i get the laugh i'm like yeah my

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29:58Hannah Berner: I'm Jake Stouck, co-founder and CEO of Serval. We built Serval to automate the IT work that slows companies down. Onboarding, password resets, access to applications, my laptop stopped working. while employees wait for help, their real work is put on hold. IT desperately wants to automate this work and that's why they need Serval. You just tell Serval what you want to automate in plain English and it's built. No drag and drop workflows, no expensive consultants. Employees get unblocked and IT teams go from drowning in tickets to building what actually matters. With Serval, IT becomes the AI engine powering the entire company.

30:37Hannah Berner: This is a new way to run IT. We guarantee you'll automate 50 % of all tickets and we'll prove it to you in a free four-week pilot. Go to serval.com slash ACAST. That's S-E-R-V-A-L dot com slash ACAST.

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31:32Paige DeSorbo: so summer's upon us which is crazy but i was like looking at bathing suits and i love cheap bathing suits yeah but i don't know because i'm not like doing a photo shoot in them like i'm just trying to be in the pool or the beach you're playing games i'm playing yes yeah yes or i'm i'm sprinting i'm swimming i'm racing i'm doing i'm a mermaid you're doing activities so it's impossible

31:57Hannah Berner: to lay out with you no yeah you're not no you have to be actively engaged the only time you can really lay out is if we're discussing something that we've discussed eight million times but there's one new fact and we're beating that fact beating that fact with a dead horse then you can lay and tan because you're actively doing something but if it's like the same old shit you're like should i like hit a tennis ball and we'll talk about this well the good thing about our friendship is it's eight years of drama we can pull from so much the archivals are the archive is looking good

32:40Paige DeSorbo: and we rotate but um i got like some tiktok advertisement for a bikini that looked beautiful i clicked it 195 for not the full bikini for the bottoms what yeah i mean it's one of these like nice ones but like what is it's underwear what is in this bikini that's 195 and it's separate so that's a 400 bikini make it make as okay as a designer as a fashion mogul make it make sense

33:09Hannah Berner: to me how do they get to those numbers it's hard to justify because it's such a small piece of

33:17Paige DeSorbo: clothing and what is it made out of that makes like isn't it just like i would assume i would

33:21Hannah Berner: assume it's probably mostly spandex is that like really pricey no but like i don't know what swim material i don't know how hard it is to make swim because i don't even know what that's like made of

33:37Paige DeSorbo: i don't know i think it's like a real rip it's a real rip and what were you shopping on do you

33:43Hannah Berner: remember what website or like do you remember like it was like a brand like it's like a swim

33:48Paige DeSorbo: brand or it was like a clothing brand that had swim but it was like it was nice like it had like

33:54Hannah Berner: 200 bathing suits are tough here's the thing that is hard to justify spending so much on bathing suits is because a lot of the time unless it's like a very good quality bathing suit i would say a lot of the time after two summers it's kind of like dingy and gross and you have to get a new one anyway like yeah it goes through it yeah you go through them faster than other articles of

34:21Paige DeSorbo: clothing you know what makes me mad it's because it's feel like they're pulling something over our eyes where that i'm like what the fuck am i supposed to do with one weird colored bottom you hate getting duped put it in a set put it it's like being like hey this earring is two hundred

34:38Hannah Berner: dollars this one earring like obviously i need to buy the other earring wait one time i ordered earrings and it was what was the brand it was like a it was like a brand that was they had a store in the west village i think it was like super big at the time something like it was like a woman's name something like tasha or like i forget whatever and i'm like and everyone's getting these like little mini dainty earrings and i'm like i have to so i go online and i like see the earrings that i want and i'm like great i'm gonna get this it was like 195 i was like that's insane but like whatever i get it it comes in the mail it's just one and i'm like is this a fucking joke and like clearly someone like messed up like the other earring and you like get on customer service and they're like no we send them we sell them individual like they thought i was stupid yeah yeah and i didn't realize it was like because all every girl was doing like multiple piercings so they just send it like one but i'm like it's a it's a pair i have

35:38Paige DeSorbo: two ears and meanwhile men have three in one shampoo but we're paying for for one bikini bottom how are we gonna take over the patriarchy when like we're out a month's rent for half a

35:51Hannah Berner: bikini you know it's something that would send me into a coma now that i would have like died for in high school as men in earrings i never went that gay

36:04someone say i've gone gayer no you have you have and you have um and they were good friends

36:12Paige DeSorbo: this is my question was it a little mini hoop was it a dangle which is a gen z or just a stud stud okay there was a time where guys with one stud he was naughty you're like that's a bad boy

36:25Hannah Berner: one stud no i liked double i liked i liked cubic zirconium all the way around you would have loved

36:36Paige DeSorbo: the staten island guys like you would have lost your mind at the staten island mall in 2006 you would have been like dry humping at a hot topic well you know what's funny is like remember when

36:48Hannah Berner: facebook came out and we had like we're just like in the kind of in the beginning of high school that like we could have it and did you ever like happen upon like your friends cousins boyfriend sister who like lives in a different state like i remember the first time i ever saw like a new jersey prom like on facebook you were and just being like is real wait a minute like i don't know what's going on in my body but i like these guys it's funny because i heard that you're from

37:17Paige DeSorbo: albany and i was like oh i didn't know they had italians that like up north i thought they all were in brooklyn and new jersey i didn't know they made them in the cold like that well because

37:29Hannah Berner: my family didn't come through ellis island do you think you're better than us no how did they get here then my like great grandpa came over illegally as like a stowaway but through like a port in Boston and he had like a cousin in Albany so that's how he ended up yeah it was like wherever you could get a job and so we didn't have anyone in New York City yet so no one yeah lived there look at you with the historical facts I mean there's definitely like there was definitely like a part of Albany that was all Italian at some point no I didn't like go to high I didn't have like high school girlfriends that were Italian in the way I was Italian like maybe Maybe they were a little Italian, but they didn't either like celebrate the way I did on holidays.

38:17Hannah Berner: And like their mom certainly didn't yell at them the way my mom did. So I'm like, she doesn't love you. I'm like, did you just tell your mom to shut up? That's crazy. No, I love the Jersey vibe. And I also love. Yeah, I don't know what age that changed that I was like, I would never date someone with two earrings. But now I'm like, that's so terrifying. although the thought of like being able to share earrings is nice everything i say it's just like page you're a lesbian and you should come out i'm like but you could have the same wardrobe and that would be convenient because i like said something and some girl made a tiktok and she was like i literally said this right before i came out well page and

39:04Paige DeSorbo: i were famously on the phone and i said to her i feel like every friend group has a in the closet lesbian and page said not in my friend group and i said that's how you know that you're the one

39:20Hannah Berner: guys you think you think i don't want this i want this if my life would be so much easier

39:28Paige DeSorbo: yeah i could see like you know that one random like really girly girl dated miley cyrus like yeah if you did meet the right girl you'd have like the happiest life but i don't know if that's for this lifetime i just know the right girl could swipe you off your feet um here's the only reason

39:41Hannah Berner: and dare i jump in on this convo the only reason i say that i'm not is because from the moment i was little and i saw a boy like i knew i loved boys i genuinely think that's why my mom made me go to an all girls high school because she knew i loved boys yeah i also feel like if i came out

40:04Paige DeSorbo: people would be like boo boring it's like so much more exciting for you to come out it would be so exciting because i'm lesbian passing i identify as straight but i i'm lesbian passing and that's why like i'm so close to the community and not all gay guys like me um even though i because they get lesbian vibes for me but no i have there's a certain gay guy that is my heart

40:26Hannah Berner: and my soul yeah you know i've been hearing more and more people talking about gays gays versus like girls gays. Really? Well, there was like a lot of discourse on TikTok, I feel like, about how there was a guy. Did you see the guy with the whole solid core thing? Yeah. Okay, so that saga, I didn't, we talked about it like in the very beginning. Is it still going? Hannah, it's still going on. And I don't know all the details. If you want to look it up, I think it was in like Darian, Connecticut, I want to say. Yeah, it's this guy from Connecticut

41:00Paige DeSorbo: at who's like putting solid core on blast all the time but it was this gay man who would go to solid

41:06Hannah Berner: core and he would go to like the earliest class every day and something happened i think he like was recording the instructor and she might have been like late one day or something yeah and they were like please don't like record the instructors like don't put this on the internet whatever and he was like totally like but like she was late and then something else happened and he got in trouble for something else and they emailed him and they were like you can't do this and he was like totally like so sorry about it and then something else happened that like he was like i didn't do this so now he's almost at like three strikes the last thing he did i guess was he's in the parking lot before the class even starts early in the morning like i think he goes to like the 6 a.m so say they're in the parking lot at like 5 45 also that is when you should be in REM sleep

41:57Paige DeSorbo: Nothing good happens before 7 a.m. or after 1 a.m. Nothing good ever happens before 7 a.m.

42:03Hannah Berner: And I guess he was like yelling the instructor's name. And I think the instructor kind of got a little like, wait, are you really mad at me? Again, it is a man at the end of the day. And so all these girls were making TikToks about certain gay men that have been really mean to them, whether it be in their friend group or in a work setting or something. and i'm like yeah it's happened to me a couple times and it's very jarring because it's like oh but we get each other you're like you're supposed to be on my side can i talk to you for

42:34Paige DeSorbo: a second yeah there are some men it doesn't matter what what sexuality they are that yeah are misogynistic there's women who are misogynistic yeah just keep an eye out in

42:45Hannah Berner: these streets obviously gay men can relate to us on so many things like that i had this one friend who she was like she was saying how one of her gay guy friends like said something about her being fat while she was pregnant and she was like and it just like really iconic i'm like who was this gay let me meet him but she was saying like i would like hurt her feelings she's like i'm so hormonal and he kept saying like you have to be pregnant with twins and she's like and i'm not pregnant you're crying because that's gonna be you i'm gonna cry so much i already know it's gonna be so hard for me i'm gonna be in pain all day all i think about is my short torso and that's because of you i was never scared of that before page not to be too positive but remember how much you loved

43:38Paige DeSorbo: raising your eggs and the hormones because you finally felt alive feelings

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46:46Paige DeSorbo: i've also had gay man fight for me like i've never been fought for i had a actually a beautiful moment with a gay glur where i was in la at a coffee shop scared and there was one beautiful man just standing there and i was like wow he thinks i'm so good looking and then he came up to me and he was like I just have to let you know I love your comedy because on Netflix there's not a lot of like gay male representation so like your feminine comedy is like the closest I can relate to because I don't relate to other comics and he was like and through you I've been introduced to other like queer comics and artists and like thank you for being a voice like that we needed and I was like, so I'm Lady Gaga.

47:34Paige DeSorbo: If there's one gay man in my audience, I go, it's really hard being Lady Gaga and being the voice of a community.

47:43Hannah Berner: Hannah, you in a meat dress, I feel like is, you should do that when you're for Halloween.

47:49Paige DeSorbo: But also like being straight is so boring. All I want to be is an ally to more interesting people.

47:56Hannah Berner: It's all I want in this world. well you want to know why being straight is annoying because it's so predictable you got married you had kids and then he cheated yeah we saw that come you know it's just like our lives are so predictable where the gays they they go out they they they're doing things with different

48:14Paige DeSorbo: people they're like they're all over the place also they're naturally traumatized because they were told by society that like what they do is isn't the norm so they're naturally been through shit that made them grow which makes them hilarious so anyway just reminding all the gagglers how much we love you and any man that's in the closet listening right now wait what are you doing for the holiday weekend do you have any plans oh lenore's visiting and she's getting a mini pedi right now and she watched me play paddle and we might take well she loves a mental health walk lenore loves and she goes fast she goes fast um also we're going to vegas for the american music

48:56Hannah Berner: awards oh fun because you had a wedding yes i do i have a wedding in the middle of the week

49:01Paige DeSorbo: i do have to say i did find out i do have one wedding because it seems kind of depressing me being like i have no weddings and then i felt like everyone was like talking about me like oh she doesn't have any friends there's a wedding that doesn't tell me about that i am invited to so not your friend got it sorry all my friends are sluts sorry they're all business sluts who don't who don't want paperwork involved sorry my friends have rejected the patriarchy sorry my friends haven't settled yeah sorry i'm the only friend who's got paperwork involved did you see sports illustrated they were like um alex earl can you ask hannah some questions about dating and I was like oh my like what am I gonna say to Alex Earl about dating I'm like ask Alex Earl like I've literally haven't sent like yeah a good flirty text in a minute even though back in my day you still have it in you I have it in me and I do um moonlight for a lot of relationships but like I haven't put myself out there obviously but she was asking me questions about dating and then at the end I was like I'm fucking married I don't have to I don't have to be defensive about I'm married so i like you have to listen to what i say anyway okay one of the questions was funny they were like do you wait to text back or not and i think i actually had kind of a good answer because i feel like waiting to text back yeah do it a little bit but it becomes too exhausting to be like did i hit the hour mark i think you text back immediately with typos so he's like she like Like, she's busy, but also, like, she clearly doesn't give a fuck.

50:35Paige DeSorbo: She responded immediately and spelled everything wrong. Like, she never, she didn't send this to all her friends. And I think there's something confident about that. And you get the conversation going. That was a great answer. I hate when you're in these, like, four-hour text things with guys where I'm, like, I don't even know anything about them because we've only, we're playing this, like, game. I'm, like, we're all on our phones. Everyone. All the time. Everyone. But I said I wouldn't double text. I mean, I've definitely done it. I've done it like if it's like we're texting during the day and then like I'm out but I'm not like

51:07Hannah Berner: continuing a conversation no like I'm not asking the next question like if like like if a natural question is to follow like then I'll say it but if the conversation has come to a halt I'm not

51:22Paige DeSorbo: reigniting it with a question or like if I said something really dud like if I just said okay to something then you can continue it as just like being nice also if he's your soulmate you could literally send him a paragraph about how you want to have his babies and he'll be like cool same

51:41Hannah Berner: yeah you can never act too crazy for the right guy ever me and hannah are very much in the true belief of traumatize them early see what they can handle yes how strong they are yes and then you can weed it out really quickly speaking of women of stem of the week wait before we get to women of some of the week. Sorry. I got ahead of myself. I've had so many girls messaging me, cosmetologists who have learned the art of the gray hair, honey. And a lot of them said, it's a myth that it's not that if you pluck one out, five will grow in its place. It's that the belief that is that you are damaging, damaging the follicle.

52:25Hannah Berner: Okay. And that, that causes to grow back a little weird now i forgot what they said that you've just lost melanin that like it's growing like it's not gonna grow five more back but like that follicle it's gonna grow gray because you've lost melanin but it was already gray yeah my girls were like pluck away okay so it's funny

52:50Paige DeSorbo: whenever we say we're confused about anything we get tons of messages from gigglers and i was telling des i'm like oh my god we get so many messages from like doctors he's like who's messaging you i'm like people are like hey i'm a surgeon at nyu langone i was just listening to but i did get one message that threw me this girl said that she's our women's side of the week she is a twin and she said they did their own study on the ground boots on the ground journalism and said that she plucked her grays and her twin didn't and she has more grays. So that threw me. That threw me. Threw me off. But I'm still plucking.

53:32Paige DeSorbo: Because what are you doing if you're not plucking?

53:34Hannah Berner: Well, a lot of girls were giving like different root sprays that they use. Yeah, there's root sprays.

53:40Paige DeSorbo: Or I just want to go full gray with thick tortoiseshell glasses and a cape and just like walk around like talk a shit about everything.

53:49Hannah Berner: Okay, but not in like our 30s.

53:51Paige DeSorbo: no more like like our 60s but our woman of stem of the week runner-up is shakira

54:02Hannah Berner: yes do you know what shakira did yes wait do you want to tell them so a couple years ago i don't know if you guys remember but shakira was accused of tax fraud in spain and she literally proved the court wrong and was like give me back my my 10 million dollars i think is like they seized or something or froze i actually didn't know about this part and so she like proved that she didn't commit tax fraud and they were like okay yeah you're right we're wrong not to be controversial but sounds like an inside job sounds something something fishy was going on can girls commit

54:34Paige DeSorbo: tax fraud no i don't think we should pay full we should pay 70 tax if women were in charge of politics that would be the first would there be no pink tax like why are we getting taxed the most when we make the least it kind of is crazy that feminine products are taxed no woman would have thought that yeah some old man but um i'll add that to why she's womanist time of the week but my reasoning was so her ex who cheated on her is like a soccer player or football and she's the face of the world cup so iconic i love it so iconic so whatever your ex is doing find the way to be the face of it it's not that hard just like put your mind to it for a couple years it's honestly it's not that hard imagine everywhere he goes it's just her face and her songs and yeah people are going to the game just to see her hell yeah so respect to that because you know that her team was probably like you could do this you don't have to you're ready an icon you don't need to work this summer and she's like yeah i do yeah i do clear my plans i definitely do um and the documentary i recommend

55:46Hannah Berner: everyone watch is the kylie minogue documentary what's that on it's on netflix it's three episodes

55:54Paige DeSorbo: i don't think they they talked about how good her style was and one thing i'm very jealous of kylie minogue for she's first of all i think it's minogue i i'm gonna have to say minogue to that i hate myself no i hate myself i think it's minogue okay it's not minogue you either no i

56:17Hannah Berner: knew that and it's not montague no that's a whole different family different word yeah it's just a

56:23Paige DeSorbo: different word but you can say minogue to bring it back to the beginning like if that's what your heart is singing we should double check on it so the thing with kylie minogue do you know that she i think i'm gonna know she started in australia that's where she was born on a soap opera that blew up like everyone was obsessed with it it spread to the uk it spread to ireland and then she decided she wanted to do some singing and everyone was like you can't be a singer you're an actor and she was like i'm 19 years old i love i love music i've always loved music and it just reminded me how much like people want to put people in boxes yeah because i hate being put in a box like the second i'm in a box i try to like do the other thing well you try and break the box yes and i do think people can't comprehend that just because you started somewhere that's not where you wanted to end and a lot of the time when you do something that's not even what you planned and then they put a fucking stamp on your forehead and they're like this is who you are now yeah so she was like yeah i was auditioning for gigs to make money but like i always wanted to be a singer like i actually never wanted to be a soap opera actress and she's so fucking beautiful and she hasn't gotten work done which makes her like so like you can't look away because she's unique looking and what i'm so jealous of her about this bitch can pull off every hair color and every hair length from a shaved head bright blonde blue black how old is she she's now 57 and she's on like a full world tour her career was insane and i love a music

58:03Hannah Berner: documentary i just like eat that shit up you love a music doctor documentary do you know i haven't watched one music documentary that you've told me to watch why why do you do this to me because i feel like you've watched it so you've informed us enough for the both of us so if we ever run into this person someday you'll got you literally have us covered i'll be like she thought your name was minnow embarrassing i think it might be are you watching anything am i watching anything no honestly tv has sucked recently i feel like the hell i don't know the streaming platforms guys did you you clock out like what's going on there's no shows everything is like i know that we are feminist because we are alive but every show feels so geared toward men that i'm like like i don't care about like this drug deal gone wrong one thing i wanted to say about your special is like the utah girls must have been like um who did hannah's hair it was giving full mormon wife but like she doesn't wear her undergarments like not jesse from mormon wives commented i'm

59:17Paige DeSorbo: sure she did what she said she was like i can't wait to watch and she definitely was like that's

59:22Hannah Berner: my sister no i was like where is hannah's long blue dress and seven kids because you were giving mormon that hair was giving jay-z styles we do hannan page try new things mormon or just like any cult

59:41Paige DeSorbo: i was like i think she's slipping i think she's slipping it's really hard to be in a cult if you have stomach problems like i do because it's like commune bathroom and you can't get up during the group like chanting because i get mad at you so i'm like i'm like kind of past the cult i just

59:58Hannah Berner: It's also like me to be alone for a certain amount of hours a day. And so like, don't tell me what to do because I'll have to like kill you. So like, no, I'm not in your cult. Anyhow, I hope everyone has a lovely holiday weekend. Thank you guys for giggling with us.

1:00:12Paige DeSorbo: Have a great weekend. We love you so much. Bye.

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