Giggling about red carpets, mahjong, and imposter syndrome

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2:20Paige DeSorbo: Our favorite month of the year. How have we never used that during Pride? Because I saved it. Even though every month with the Gigglers is gay. Thank God. Not to immediately talk about myself. I was going to talk about you. Oh my God, thank you. You're welcome. But people have been messaging me like, oh my God, you've been more cunty lately or you've been serving more lately. And I realize it's all since Drag Race. because like drag race taught me that like to be the moment where like before i'm like i'm just hannah so like i kind of feel like yeah i'm wearing a dress where now i'm like i'm not hannah i'm just i'm just hannah in a dress i'm just like that's what i was doing and like i know like like other people they're like she's an icon she's the moment and i'm like well i'm just wearing a dress and now i walk in and i'm like i can be the moment you guys it's all in your head And now people are like, oh, Hannah, like the gays are starting to like me more.

3:18Hannah Berner: Yep. And I just wore a scarf. Do you want to know also what the gays respond to? Confidence. Like they can sniff a certain confidence. And I was actually at a shoot recently and they were like, I had to like answer questions. And one of them was like, okay, like what makes you feel confident? and uh which is like obviously like a question people ask all the time of like in general and for a second I was just like I just like made it up in my head that I was yeah I literally made it up like I just said it one day and then that was it I didn't understand like red carpets

3:58Paige DeSorbo: and stuff I'm like okay so I have to put makeup on I have to be here and I think the gays like knew that like deep down I didn't have my heart and my soul into it but now I'm like no have fun with this you get to like be this character and be this like version of you dare i say the gays have the best radar when someone's pretending well the gays call out bullshit yeah there's this kathy griffin tiktok where it's like i um someone get a gay i need a gay i need a gay right now i have this old tiktok was posted where i said when someone says something mean to me and i need to think of a good comeback i'm like i need a gay i need a gay right now can someone find a gay for me that's so true they read everything they're great readers they are and listeners and listeners when they have to be but speaking of the gays yeah we were at las culturistas which was a parade did you have so much fun i had so much fun the like combination of people was so good like it's like when you get invited to a party and i was like i can't believe i got

5:04Hannah Berner: fun and outfits and it's my dream well I feel like I have to thank you because the gays first

5:11Paige DeSorbo: noticed us because of you and then you showed up in that hat last time and they lost their fucking they were gagging they gagged they gagged you were so dominant with the gays the hat was

5:24Hannah Berner: intentional because I knew like I knew my audience there you had them in the palm of your hands and

5:31Paige DeSorbo: they ate it up and it was so good that to this point they were like you could bring your weird friend like they were like Paige you can do whatever you want you could bring your weird friend and then I came and they kind of were like okay kind of serving thanks for showing up they

5:44Hannah Berner: were like they're like Paige you can bring her anytime you want oh that's literally I felt like I got invited to the cool gay party I'm like I told you guys you were gonna like her just give

5:54Paige DeSorbo: her a chance you were literally looked at me and you were like this is your moment you're ready for

5:58Hannah Berner: the gays what were we talking about this week and you were like oh that's kind of like shoot i lost it you said something really funny this week but it was like a comparison of something and i feel like we were at last culture recess and now i can't remember oh i did a metaphor it was so funny

6:18Paige DeSorbo: and it just made me think of it well thanks for acknowledging something i said made you laugh i I don't do a lot of metaphors but when I do so this week is my special week it comes out Friday Friday I've been doing some press um and I had a funny moment during press because wait before you

6:35Hannah Berner: say that can I just say that Hannah was the so Hannah about her special coming out like a couple weeks ago she was like okay so who should I invite to my party and this is like what I think I'm gonna do and then like a week later she was like nix the party think it's stupid not doing it

6:52Paige DeSorbo: no i had a 200 person guest list 200 people and i was like no we're not doing this but actually i'll tell you right now on the pod something new just came out well we were gonna do a screening and it got canceled logistics weren't working and i have an idea i don't know if you're around though but taylor strucker just had a baby that i haven't seen i think i'm just gonna throw a catered like dinner get together from like seven to ten at taylor strecker's what does her having

7:26Hannah Berner: a baby have to do with that a baby makes a party oh and she has a do a friday night and she has a

7:33Paige DeSorbo: rooftop if you don't like babies oh perfect i'm out of town are you actually oh my god because i

7:41Hannah Berner: was like oh you love this taylor strecker okay fine um i do love taylor strecker and i would love to meet her baby i've only ever gifted her baby something and i haven't even like looked her

7:51Paige DeSorbo: in the eyes and introduced myself that's actually so you you love a baby gift i love did you get her

7:57Hannah Berner: the trunk yeah of course that's what i give everyone who has a baby i'm like and here's a memorabilia trunk monogrammed with your baby's name um now like i have everyone knows i send that trunk so like now my girlfriends who are having babies aren't even waiting for me to send the trunk they're sending their color requests they're like not gonna leave it up to you because i have a vision in mind can you use these colors when you send my trunk i'm like sure i love

8:29Paige DeSorbo: that though yeah if you don't have a trunk you don't have a baby no that's what i'm saying what

8:35Hannah Berner: came first the baby or the trunk if i haven't sent you a trunk for your baby just know i don't

8:39Paige DeSorbo: fuck with that baby if you have a trunkless baby if you have not received a trunk from me for your baby i'm sorry we're not real friends if you thought you were now you know where you stand now you know if you haven't received a trunk wait also anything else from las culturistas it was fun to like sit back and like enjoy a performance yes it's so fun to like walk into a theater and not have a panic attack i know we're like never in that side of the theater yeah you know waiting for it to start and we were just whispering to each other which is really fun my look i wanted to wear yeah let's bandana it ended up giving pirate and it also wasn't the normal size of a bandana it was like a big italian cavalli scarf so when we wrapped it up it was like bundling too much fabric and i i vetoed it i said girls gays we can't do this page has been through a lot she had a long day she just got off a six hour flight i don't want to like have to emotionally process this i said we're doing a scarf babe we're doing a scarf but then the scarf was causing drama all night poor josephine had to keep reading josephine was on

10:00Hannah Berner: scarf duty my favorite comment was that i was dressed very you coated and you were dressed very me coated and like together we were still ourselves oh and i loved it well you were wearing tom brown tom ford oh tom i was wearing a tom ford top and then i was wearing an area skirt. The theme was a gay fever dream. I thought the theme was evening wear. I think maybe that was the attire but the theme was gay fever dream which I think you like you could wear whatever. Wait attire and theme are different? Yeah well like the attire is like how fancy it is. So like if you got an invitation to a wedding it's black tie.

10:48Hannah Berner: Got it. Attire cocktail attire but like the overall theme was gay fever dream which I think is whatever you want it to mean

10:56Paige DeSorbo: when do you decide when to smile or not in a photo because I've been really playing with that I'm like I'm not smiling today it's just like whenever the wind hits me you know in a certain

11:08Hannah Berner: direction I'm like I'll give a smile you know what I don't do when people tell me to smile because I'm like you're not in charge of my aesthetic on Instagram you've actually never full tooth smiled on a carpet i well i feel like i have because i've been like bullied into it not to like fully chapel roan over here yeah but like i was bullied into the photographer will just be right there like five feet away from you and be like give us a smile yeah you just are like and then that's the photo they use no one talks about this because i may come off as unrelatable in this situation but you ever been on a red carpet and when there's like a and there's like all the camera people and a particular one like doesn't care about you not for like any particular reason just like doesn't give a shit so like they just turn to the side and wait for the next person and it's so and you're standing there and you know that like other people are taking pictures but this one guy just like doesn't give a fuck and it's so you're like okay so like did I do something like do you know you do not give a fuck because you just don't care or like you

12:12Paige DeSorbo: specifically don't it's very jarring but everything is fake in this world so like i've i've gone to a

12:19Hannah Berner: carpet before and like everything is fake and everything is owned by everything but people

12:24Paige DeSorbo: weren't excited and then like one camera guy recognized me it was like hey hannah and then the other one got excited and started taking pictures next you know they're all excited taking pictures it's like so sometimes like they'll start not knowing and then they see other people care so then they're like oh i'm supposed to care so everything's made up it's kind of like if you fake paparazzi people think you're important you know i mean and i don't think

12:46Hannah Berner: people at home know that before you get on the red carpet there's a whiteboard that they write your name on oh yeah that's it before you get on the carpet so that they know who the fuck you are

12:55Paige DeSorbo: like a substitute teacher they're like this is hannah now everyone's gonna be nice to hannah today right burner with b-e-r n-e-r i at um oh my god sports illustrated two weeks ago you have a bigger aura than me sometimes when you like get out of a car i feel like people are like that's a celebrity okay thank you so much but you've like i feel like this is something that you've had since like the womb like you came out and the doctors were like

13:29Hannah Berner: they said get her out of the nursery she needs security put her in a private room yeah yeah you

13:35Paige DeSorbo: came out with sunglasses yeah and a lip gloss um and someone was um powdering your nose they were

13:44Hannah Berner: like okay she got a little shiny in there taylor was literally there as a baby powdering me they're

13:49Paige DeSorbo: like don't let her come out looking a mess i like will get out of a car and people assume i'm a publicist i think i can definitely walk in a way that no one will notice that i'm there

14:01Hannah Berner: if that makes sense so you marilyn monroe yourself i can i don't know if i can make

14:08Paige DeSorbo: myself look important but i could definitely like make myself look unimportant i walk out and i'm walking to this event and i guess there's always someone who's supposed to be your like handler and be like okay here's your id here's whatever you need to get into the event i always walk past them and they never see me and then at swords illustrated i was like with my little cousin andrea and she was helping me out and i was like girl we're gonna have a fun day vip sports illustrated i walk in and we're at the elevator and they're like do you have a wristband and i was like no and they're like did someone give it to you and i was like no and they're like well you need to get a wristband and i'm like i'm so i'm on i'm in the magazine yeah and this is like a big event with like lots of different people but i'm like i'm in the mag i'm in the magazine like i'm not trying to be a bitch but like you're like i'm the prettiest girl in america and so then i went to another place where they were giving out bands but i guess it was for like general public and i said to the girl like hey can i have a band and she's like what's your name and i was like hannah and she was like i don't have you on anything and my little cousin andrea is literally dying laughing because i walked in being like you're about to hang out with your cool yeah cousin and we're about to rock this town together and the lady looked at me she's like bitch i don't know who you are why you're bothering me and i was like okay and then finally someone saw me and was like Hannah you walk past the person and I was like I just walked in yeah so that happens very humbling all the time all the time but I also realized that I'd be a

15:35Hannah Berner: good spy I'd also say that in my life if someone said who's the most confident person that you know I would say you and I think that that's why I gravitate toward you because your confidence like comes off onto me and then I feel more confident. So basically I use you. Well,

15:56Paige DeSorbo: I would argue that we both are really confident just in very different ways.

16:00Hannah Berner: Here's the thing with your best friend that like, and look, me and Hannah have been in some like peculiar situations together that are so niche. True pickles. That like, that like if we even explained it to you guys, it'd be like, I don't get like, I don't know because it's so nuanced and so niche, but everyone can relate to being in a situation with your friend and you look at them and like in your brains you're locking eyes and you're saying to each other we only have each other in this weird life and the amount of times even just this week that like I haven't even been in the same room with you but I've had the thought where I'm like and I only have Hannah in this

16:42Paige DeSorbo: life like well you actually got quiet at one point this weekend and I never felt more connected to you because you knew that I knew you were being quiet and I was letting you be quiet because one thing you don't do as a best friend in public is start poking your friend to be like what's going on are you okay so I was just like I'm gonna let her have this and acknowledge give her an eye and she literally was like I'll talk to you later and I was like I'm ready I can't wait the second she's

17:07Hannah Berner: in the car my phone's blowing up i felt you sorry i just like got like a 1930s wave and i didn't even like okay cindy crawford i like caught a glimpse of myself wait it's just gonna be hair you're like

17:20Paige DeSorbo: grace screenshot okay continue i forgot what i was saying but yeah oh no no i did have a moment

17:26Hannah Berner: where like i felt your presence next to me but i wasn't looking at you and i knew that you knew that I was annoyed about something but I couldn't say it in the moment or around people and you just looked at me like okay and I said yeah and we had a full conversation I'm also not blowing up your

17:45Paige DeSorbo: spot I'm not blowing up your spot I'm just letting you know we're clocked we clocked it and we'll

17:49Hannah Berner: discuss this later we talk about as women so much how like your friendships change when you get married when you have kids and like it's hard to like balance everything and I truly think that you and your friend just need to have one of those moments every six months and it keeps on track you can keep on like you can go and not speak to them for a month because they're busy as long as the next time you see each other like you have that type of moment there's just nothing worse

18:17Paige DeSorbo: than being in a social being outside and experiencing something and looking around and no one gets it and you're just like i'm alone in this world we're like i didn't even know what you were thinking but i knew that i would agree does that make sense and isn't that what life is isn't it just finding people that agree with like you want to know what i actually don't care if people

18:44Hannah Berner: think i'm wrong because i know that i have a group of six girls that 100 agree with me and my mom like at all times like butter that's a great example like you think butter's disagree with

18:57Paige DeSorbo: I mean, Butter is fighting for me every second. Wait, not to bring up like an actual cat combo, but like serious question because I've only had Daphne for two years.

19:07Hannah Berner: She's my first cat. Yeah. Obviously, like don't you have a short haired cat. So I like can't call you sometimes because I'm like. What? Like she's in a different situation. I need to know if one, I need to know how often you're brushing your long haired cats. And second, I need to know if my cat is AI because I'm not kidding. When Daphne gets like a mat on her, I genuinely feel like she comes to me, shows it to me and like lets me get it off of her. Like I feel like other cats, you have to like fight with them to brush it or like, you know, they don't want you like digging at their. Like I genuinely feel like Kitty comes up to me and is like, you're going to let me walk around the house like this?

19:53like fix this yeah and do i need to know that from the long-haired cat moms so my one thing i

20:01Paige DeSorbo: know is my mom brushes her cats even though they're kind of short hair but like they love getting brushed like okay they walk up to her to be like yeah brush me bitch yeah other side

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22:26Paige DeSorbo: i was in a long conversation this morning in dms with a giggler who sent me a photo of a cat and she sent me options for names guys i can't come up with names off of nothing i need to know

22:37Hannah Berner: like so she gave me some good options wait there's a girl on tiktok that literally started a business where you can pay her and she'll brainstorm baby names for you you give her like certain things about you and your husband and she'll brainstorm based on your personality she was like i just realized i was good at it on tiktok a couple years ago because celebrities would get pregnant i'd predict the baby name and i would like kind of get it right a lot of so she's magical so she started an entire business where she will brainstorm baby names for you based on instead of

23:15Paige DeSorbo: etsy witch breakup she's doing etsy witch babies i'm obsessed with her also i was talking to someone yesterday who had a baby and i was like what's your baby's name and they were like my wife and i actually haven't decided yet so we just call it baby and i was like how old is baby and they were like eight months and they're like we can't decide just baby but they have another kids so they just call it like there's this kid and baby wait i thought like they there was a

23:38Hannah Berner: impression that like they don't let you leave the hospital i know but named your baby so many

23:44Paige DeSorbo: things in this life just seem like a movie and easy but it's not like i think if you're at home it's also so much pressure what you named the baby because that's like their whole identity for the rest of their life and like i don't know i think sometimes people are too casual about it also i

23:57Hannah Berner: was asking my friend katie who literally just had a baby i was just gonna say just had a baby drop last week new baby dropping dropped her new baby hell yeah baby dropping a week and like we've been chatting oh and also i was like oh i want to come see the baby and i completely forgot that you have to like wait a certain amount of weeks oh yeah to like see a baby yeah so i was like totally forgot about that but when the eight weeks is up i am in fact busy so i'll catch him later you go do you have another baby dropping when's the next drop no but we were talking about how like she was saying how how after you give birth and everything's over and you like sleep and you're ready to leave that you just leave and she was like and it is so weird that they're just like okay bye good luck like see ya like in my head they send a police officer home so like make sure where you're even bringing this baby home is suitable like no one's coming and checking it's such a crazy concept yeah but then i thought just like hannah losing her bag at sports illustrated

25:06Paige DeSorbo: you're handing it to a woman so what bad could happen literally the doctor if it's a man he's like please take this away from me i'm exhausted handing it over to a woman who you know is gonna

25:19Hannah Berner: do the right thing and honestly what's changed my brain chemistry is i saw a quote that said the only people that live on earth are women and their children and i'm obsessed because that is the only humans that live on earth is women

25:33Paige DeSorbo: and and their children can include cats i do have to say this cat that was sent she sent me options And then I thought of, I really want someone to name their cat Pepper. I think Pepper's so cute. But she was like, this cat has some like brown undertones. And I was like, how about Mocha? And we ended up going with Cinnamon and her nickname is Minnie.

25:54Hannah Berner: Cute. They're never going to call that cat Cinnamon.

25:58Paige DeSorbo: Unless she's really naughty.

26:00Hannah Berner: Cinnamon. If you've named a cat and you already have their nickname, you're never calling it their real name. Yeah. Or, yeah. Yeah.

26:08Paige DeSorbo: That's true. but now i feel like i have you know didn't sheena or didn't you like get bought a penguin by like

26:15Hannah Berner: and i can't believe you would bring this up right now wait that was so i bought a penguin for an ex-boyfriend one time and i genuinely think i was scammed but also it was the cutest i it was such

26:27Paige DeSorbo: a sweet gift that's how i feel about every giggler's cat i'm like give me updates on our cat

26:33Hannah Berner: yes but where is that penguin i don't know where that penguin is because they never responded to my emails but then i like still get emails from the place like to this day honestly that penguin sensed the energy and was like not here you're not adopting me now what's going on over there you got me fucked up i'd rather be

26:56Paige DeSorbo: in the wild please page six or whatever put a headline page and her ex abandoned penguin

27:06Paige DeSorbo: decide they don't want to co-parent no one knows what penguin is i used to get asked about that penguin all the time oh my god i think sheena had a penguin at one point oh i think she might have i'm like such a fangirl like sheena can do no wrong to me like ever when she commented on this um advertisement we have up for hulu dropping and she wrote it's all happening and i'm like

27:30Hannah Berner: does no one understand the gravity of this wait i saw sheena also nobody gives credit to sheena and how funny she is like like inconsistent no her comedic timing is actually hilarious and people literally don't give her credit um there was something about like summer house and i think of something about like jesse solomon and he was like making a post about himself or like i don't know something and sheena commented and was like okay sheena like making the whole scandal about you like and i was just like that's hilarious and that's funny also not to get in the weeds but

28:05Paige DeSorbo: she like told a story about how her ex put up a tv and it took him like only like three minutes seven minutes that's hilarious like why why is everyone taking shit so seriously if my friend was like he put up a thing in seven minutes i'd be like that's fucking hilarious she's obviously like so funny just starting a good conversation about how long it takes men to do things like

28:25Hannah Berner: why was that turned into like oh we're really they canceled her because of that in like the beginning years of vanderpump too like they were really mean to her and i'm like this girl is hilarious like even when she first got on the show i was like everyone thinks i look like britney spears i'm like this is a tv goal i'm obsessed with this person obsessed obsessed um so yeah i had this interview and the lady who's actually like giggler hilarious we had such a good

28:55Paige DeSorbo: conversation and then there's a part of the interview they always like to get a little deeper after they're like what's going on in your life and she was like you talk about having imposter syndrome especially as a stand-up comedian who came from reality tv like what do you do to you know be confident in yourself and i was just kind of like answering questions but like this light bulb goes up and i was like i've never said that i've never like i was gonna go with it but then i was like you cannot be a people pleaser right now like that's literally everything you stand against and i go i'm so sorry i don't know where you read that i need to have imposter syndrome like i could actually benefit from like a little bit of imposter syndrome because i'm out here like singing i literally to this day still think i can hit the cynthia ariva note right and it almost cost me my friendship with page during tour and she wait wait before you finish the story

29:50Hannah Berner: we're sitting at las culturistas we're in the middle of the show i feel a tap on my shoulder i look over a hand and go so you really would never sing and dance on the stage like i could tell she's watching this performance and in like a normal person's like wow they're doing so well my friend is like i could fucking do this i could get up there i could learn this dance right now and i knew she was thinking next giggly squad live tour there will be a singing and dance moment and i looked at her and i go no i would have joined the theater and i was like you could you don't

30:26Paige DeSorbo: have to move like i'll do something around you and you're literally like i can't do this right now i'm trying to understand and i was like okay well i'm planning choreography just letting you

30:33Hannah Berner: know and she's like i'll deal with this later the show we'll talk about this after we were literally a married couple she's like can we talk about this in the car i'm not doing this in front of everyone

30:43Paige DeSorbo: oh my god there's a clip going around from our our zoom dance you dancing on zoom was so funny you were doing like

30:54Hannah Berner: she was a different girl she was she had a bigger photos of you and i just love looking at it

31:01Paige DeSorbo: because i was i'm like i miss her i mean i'm biased but i feel like we're exactly the same except we're smarter and less reactive um so anyway i feel like it's assumed a lot of the time that women have imposter syndrome like i feel like whenever anyone's successful they're always like how are you handling the fact that you're successful and i'm like because this is the only way i will survive or i'll feel like i have no purpose in life because i've been chasing this since i was born because this is all i meant to do like what do you want me and i i don't know if they would ask men that like when a man blows up are they like alex warren do you have imposter

31:40Hannah Berner: syndrome or somber do you have imposter syndrome never one time have i seen a guy answer that question because the equivalent to that question for men i feel like is oh my god can you believe you're you've made it to this point in your career it's not that you've like where with women it's like you've had to have been doubting the whole time this is like you're doubting yourself you're questioning yourself you're shocked that we're here where men it's like doesn't it feel good

32:12Paige DeSorbo: no but like when you start in reality tv everything gets harder because everyone's like but you're on reality tv so you can't do this you can't do this you can't do this you can't do this and you're like i'm sorry that i got casted for something and it actually wasn't my dream you're like

32:26Hannah Berner: if we really think about it i couldn't do reality tv i actually can do that i try really breaking it down instead of call me rally tv star

32:39Paige DeSorbo: we should just be like she wasn't able to do it she wasn't really on that much

32:45Hannah Berner: no i don't know what it is i think probably also i think because reality tv is mainly women so i think it's also looked at as like not skilled stupid it's when in reality it's like the number one connection we have to like anthropology like watching how women react to certain situations watching how friendships evolve watching how like just your lives change in general from different ages you can watch in real time now granted there's obviously editing but like you so there's some people on reality tv that have you've watched them for 20 years can i actually give a metaphor

33:29Paige DeSorbo: reality tv is like anthropology but it's more like reading a history book where at the time you're like this is facts but then you realize that the history book was in fact written by humans and there's always a bias for example i'd have to literally smoke a joint to get through the

33:45Hannah Berner: Listen, start over.

33:47Paige DeSorbo: Like history books were written differently in the South than the North. Yes. They tell the story of our nation differently based on what they want you to know and how they want you to perceive it. Yes. Okay. So what I'm saying is reality TV, when you look back, you realize like, oh, that was a time when it was popular for this or they wanted this angle. And it's not straight facts. it's through the lens and the narrative they want you to see it from so that's why i love when people get more information when they go back and they're able to be like wait now that i know this this scene looks completely different wait okay were you done with the imposter syndrome story if you want me to be oh no i just no i i mean i could talk about it forever i didn't know if you

34:37Hannah Berner: finished the story so what did you end up saying to the person oh i i just i was kind of proud i

34:41Paige DeSorbo: stood up for myself and i was like i actually don't think i've said that which is like kind of awkward like you don't want to have to say that but i was like i've never said that and it's not what i yeah i don't have imposter syndrome and i'm happy to be here i'm just happy to be here happy to be involved i'm happy to be involved you're doing great at your job you're doing great i'm doing great did you ever have imposter syndrome and think how to whatever imposter syndrome is like you telling yourself you shouldn't be here which i have had in other things yeah like tennis I had imposter syndrome before because I'm like I'm not being a successful comedian you're like I know that's just art like I'm like if the people laughed you were funny right that that really gets rid of your imposter syndrome once you get that first laugh but yeah if you're a girl listening you don't have to have imposter syndrome it's not like part of our DNA you can just like believe in yourself and then when the good things happen you go yeah I

35:35Hannah Berner: knew like page you don't have imposter syndrome no i knew from a very young age that i was meant for more i just knew it i there's actually so many different situations in my life that i was telling people like i was being rude to people to be like how dare you say i'm not gonna do what i say i'm gonna do like okay you don't think you're gonna be famous i do like get away I always thought I was going to be famous. Actually, there was a moment when I was in my early 20s. I had just graduated college. I moved to New York City. And I had a moment where I was like, oh, my God. I said I was going to be famous by 17.

36:20Hannah Berner: And I'm like 23. And I haven't done it yet. And I remember thinking, am I just going to stay at my job and not try? and getting really upset that I had like missed becoming famous. You're like, I'm 22.

36:36Paige DeSorbo: I missed it.

36:37Hannah Berner: Well, I think I had a like modeling agent say, if you're not famous by 17, it's really hard to like break into it.

36:45Paige DeSorbo: People love saying that stuff to people. Yeah.

36:47Hannah Berner: And I think that like stayed in my head for however many years. And then I remember I got like got Summer House and I just thought, yeah, like I'm, this was supposed to happen.

36:59Paige DeSorbo: Because also you were so ready for your moment. Like when that happened, you'd been so overprepared and ready. Like when you sat down that confessional, you were like, let's go. I trained for this. It wasn't like, oh no, what's happening to me? This is all unfamiliar. You had already seen it in your head a bazillion times. I'd been performing. You saw yourself walking at the premiere already. You knew the outfit.

37:20Hannah Berner: Totally. I knew, yeah, I knew I was meant to be on a red carpet getting in a fight with a paparazzi. About smiling. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. For some people, summer is their favorite season. Travel, picking up kids from camp, schools out, and for others, it's juggling so many different schedules and it can be tough and overwhelming. If that's you, then BetterHelp is here to help with your summer plans. Some people don't thrive in the summer and therapy can better help you understand your needs and help you set boundaries for when you need them the most. BetterHelp therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the U.S.

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38:48Paige DeSorbo: I love having a Venmo balance It makes me so happy And I'm buying nachos with it my venmo debit card goes crazy i'm not gonna have so many nachos because my venmo debit card

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41:32Paige DeSorbo: time for a woman in stem of the week i have so many submissions now weekly in my dms it's i'm getting overwhelmed we actually have to hire a new employee to handle all the all of those but um

41:43Hannah Berner: because we want to highlight real women like like everything that started as a bit so now i feel bad when the real women in stem are like hey how about highlight us and we're like okay but she like tied her hair with a cute bow yeah no i know i was like this is a bit this girl was like hey i just

41:59Paige DeSorbo: graduated cornell like engineering science she's like hey i made the rocket like any rocket i made

42:07Hannah Berner: it and we're like okay but did you use a straw as a makeup brush no these girls are so smart one

42:17Paige DeSorbo: girl i think she's like a doctor she's like i saved like the lives of two twins today and i was like hey not really the right fit for the segment it's not really the voice and like the angle we want but like obsessed with your work and you do have imposter syndrome for our personal women of stem of the week but also would you ever ask like a doctor a female doctor like do you have imposter syndrome when you go into surgery it's like no this is who i am no because if she said

42:44Hannah Berner: yes you then realize you're dying in that moment like that's this if your doctor has imposter syndrome that's really honestly though so many gynecologists i've gone to definitely have got imposter syndrome because they had no idea what the fuck was going on anyway that's very different

43:02Paige DeSorbo: pissed off of the week so women of snow of the week don't know her name or anything but there is a girl going around who realized that you could do your own color analysis by just going to home depot and you walk behind the wall of colors and you just take photos of yourself and then color analysis are made up anyway so you can then decide what you like what's best for you Hannah we have to go no I know well okay do you think color analysis is messed up is made up but like no you know but we know when they show it you'll be like I like her in that color and they're like that's a horrible color and I'm like isn't it like it'd be like the most subtle

43:41Hannah Berner: I don't know I think there's obviously very there can be subtle things that you're like yeah you could go either way but I think it is real because there are sometimes like okay um like colors wash me out for sure but a bunch of girls went to like somewhere and did it like a bunch of influencers I forget it was like an influencer trip or something and you could like when they like the blondes with blue eyes when they did like the dark colors you could instantly tell that they looked way better in like the bright colors because their eyes just popped and it looked so i definitely think it's real i think there are certain things if you have like a complex like i think our complexion can go like both ways i'm so flattered you're putting my complexion i know and then i look down at you and i know so i'm told i have she's way more fair skin i have

44:34Paige DeSorbo: olive undertones because of my sicilian which you have but then because of my like european mutt I have kind of rosacea. So. I don't have rosacea. I just have a reddish hue that like.

44:47Hannah Berner: Yeah. Yeah. You don't have. Yeah. So do you know what colors you think you are or. I like kind of.

44:58Paige DeSorbo: But like I would love to do a color analysis. But like I'm also like. Someone has blue eyes. We're blue. OK. I don't even pay someone to fucking. I tell Des we're blue. We're navy. We're this shade of blue.

45:10Hannah Berner: No.

45:10Paige DeSorbo: I need to go get it done also I can't believe I didn't tell you this my mom visited and I don't know I feel like as you get older you just like cherish every day with your mom where I'm you're not like okay we're not going to do anything I'm like what do we do she told me that she had some friends playing mahjong and she doesn't know how to play and I was like I think you can like get mahjong lessons so I went on Instagram and I was like mahjong lesson DM someone next day they came over to our house me my mom and two professional mahjong girlies put down the mahjong mat and for three hours i felt like i was at harvard we learned how to play mahjong it's really difficult but i felt like i was learning a new language and i was like i can't wait to be in

45:59Hannah Berner: like a mahjong group drama wait wait wait page mahjong is taking over as like because it's kind

46:08Paige DeSorbo: of a language that like you need to know it to play it and then once you're in it it's like an art form and it could take three hours the game it's basically like i don't know if you ever played

46:19Hannah Berner: gin rummy with like your grandpa yeah why would i bring him up um it's like rummy cub but with tiles

46:26Paige DeSorbo: it's like rummy cub if you were on mushrooms and cocaine so it's and what people like is because aren't all the tiles like pictures they're gorgeous they're all like glass and they the backs are really pretty and you could do all different styles but they all have like a certain thing that they're called um and it's based off of like the original game is chinese and this is really confusing but every year there's a different card to like make the game more challenging that you play off of it's like crazy so now i have just so much respect for people who play mahjong because it's so complicated but like now i like kind of want to be in a mahjong

47:06Hannah Berner: league it's so funny because my assistant josephine is always trying to play games yeah he loves a game like anytime we're you're like let's try responding to an email and we have five she'll be like how about we play cards i'm like we are in the middle of a shoot you also when there's a

47:26Paige DeSorbo: second you're watching your show you're not like starting also you're not learning a game

47:31Hannah Berner: no the one day the one day she did make me play cards we were like at my apartment waiting for something and like we just had time and she was like you know we could and I was like well do you even have it and she was like of course I keep it in my bag and now there's like this new game that she wants to teach me and we were at a shoot today and she was like if I had brought it like we could have played it on set and I'm like we're at work technically like she's like no I actually canceled the job so i can't start playing that unless i play with unless i bring her so maybe like me you grace and josephine join like some type of mahjong league yeah mahjong call up i

48:12Paige DeSorbo: just think like before phones like people played cards and games i also heard because i was talking to some people this one woman has a 15 year old daughter who's obsessed with like buying a walkman and like all the nostalgia of like the late 80s early 90s so like the kids i think after gen z there's a generation that saw gen z and was like wait maybe we should not be online as much and i don't know gen alpha is just as fucking maybe before gen alpha but i think like it's funny the world is realizing like we gotta undo some stuff because we've gone too far i think whatever our generations kids are they're gonna be fine i think once like the young all the younger millennials

49:01Hannah Berner: have kids we'll save the world it's fine just add it to our goddamn tab of things that we've had to deal with now we have to fix the whole human race can i say one thing that pissed me off this week yes i love when other people get pissed off a man a man called me sweetheart

49:19Paige DeSorbo: give me the context like it was like in passing like it was like an older man that was just like do you know where this is sweetheart like not in a creepy way but it's like i think we're done with

49:30Hannah Berner: that like i don't oh you love that i hate that i love that because like okay how old not like 80 that's fine that's okay he was probably like 60 okay so he's someone's dad yeah don't call me sweetheart also i'm 34 see i don't hate it because you like being a sweetheart am i around a lot of creepy men no i'm like wait a minute no because i feel like i've heard that growing up my whole life from either like my uncles or my dad's being like sweetheart can you get like yeah my dad never called i don't know but yeah i guess like a man that you don't know but also i realize i am projecting but like yeah in my household i wasn't sweetheart i was a bad bitch so like when a man

50:21Paige DeSorbo: tries to infantilize me and call me sweetheart i'm like i'm nobody's sweetheart i'll ruin your fucking life sweetheart sweetheart i'm gonna start calling men sweetheart imagine i go thanks sweetheart thanks sweetheart that's how you know it's wrong because if i can't do it back to you

50:38Hannah Berner: don't do it to me even just the context in which i put that in like oh well i feel like there's a lot of men in my life like in my life i've been called sweetheart is there anything that like our moms have called the boy like any boy well it's funny to think of like what boys call each other

50:55Paige DeSorbo: they call each other boss chief like thanks chief chief they get chief and boss and we get sweetheart

51:00Hannah Berner: or ma 'am yeah have you been called ma 'am yet yeah that's like a slur yeah i've been called ma 'am by like a 15 year old while I had to be 16 because it was like a valet parking attendant and I looked and I was like that just made me really upset but and then I ran the math in my head like yeah he saw me and was like this old bitch is someone's mom see I have imposter syndrome where I think we're 27 not when you talk to someone that's like 16 yes with us like around people like us yeah talking to you i'm 27 when i'm dealing with anyone under 25 i'm a strong 33 i'm even pushing 40 because i'm like you're doing what with who even my friends that are like two years younger i'm like you're drinking at this hour it's 11 p.m you know when you're talking to

51:54Paige DeSorbo: older people and they make references of like movies and actors and you're like and they're like you don't know who that is and you're like no yeah yeah yeah and you're like that's so annoying like why would you even say that but then you literally do it to them you're like you don't know who justin timberlake is and they're like what i'm like you don't fucking know you well

52:11Hannah Berner: in our defense we didn't have social media to learn those things they have social media all our famous people are still famous for them des will bring something up and be like you never

52:23Paige DeSorbo: saw that movie i'm like when did it come out and he's like 1992 i'm like i couldn't walk fuck i was i couldn't even put a sentence together and what was it i had to wait for a rerun that my dad had to click like you know the chances i literally just stepped out of my mom's vagina give me a minute like i don't even have my own room yet whatever happened to hi hello how are you and i guess some people's parents were a little more like you gotta watch these cult classics but like i was busy and also it literally was every night my dad was watching the knicks and then going during the commercial breaks he would like go to the middle of the godfather and i'd watch it from the middle and then i'd go back i don't care as much like when i meet

53:07Hannah Berner: someone younger and we're talking about something that's very millennial coded and they're like i haven't seen it or i don't know it i don't get upset about that i'm like yeah why would you unless you had an older sibling but when i meet someone that's my age and i bring up a show and i'm like for example like clarissa explains it all or like sabrina the teenage witch um boy meets world and someone's like oh i didn't watch that that's when i'm like what were you doing because i was the same age and i know that it was a friday night and it was tgif friday so where were you when boy meets world was on what were you watching wait what's what's Clarissa what's Clarissa who's Clarissa Clarissa explains it all what is she explaining it was Melissa Joan Hart who is Sabrina the Teenage Witch it was her show before it was Clarissa explains it all okay and she sits in her room and the guy comes up from her window

54:05Paige DeSorbo: you know that was it starting okay that's from 1991 to 1996 so you were watching reruns no i was watching it in 1996 when you were four it was on oh maybe i was watching reruns that i'm just saying that was a throwback a little bit you know i hold you accountable i have a distinct memory of watching even stevens like put it into my veins yes even okay yeah and okay you know what i digress you know what like it's been a fucking long day it's one o 'clock like even Stevens came out in 2000 we were on wait this is this is actually really

54:43Hannah Berner: diabolical Hannah's in a different time zone and last night it was like midnight New York time and Hannah's like we could do like a late night giggly episode I'm like it's midnight I can't do giggly squad right now I was like do you want to party you're like hey I want to sit for an hour talk about everything that annoys us put it on the internet I do have to say it would have been

55:04Paige DeSorbo: an episode i was like shooting something yesterday and a giggler was there and she's like have you recorded the pod yet i'm like no like should we record it tonight while you texted me that i was full face mask hair mask i was like i'm a little busy well that's a little cereal at night you actually like have a second job at night which is like undoing the day and like being prepared for the next day where i actually am kind of creatively at my peak at 11 p.m when you share

55:32Hannah Berner: bed with a man like so many things can happen but like one of the things is like them knowing your schedule and like if I want to get up because you've already fallen asleep and I haven't even fallen asleep yet and I want to do things downstairs like different projects on my own

55:50Paige DeSorbo: like it's none of your business wait projects we have to do projects to stay sane yeah like if I

55:57Hannah Berner: I get a hankering to organize my hair closet.

56:01Paige DeSorbo: And the hair closet is right next to the bed. That's not my business.

56:06Hannah Berner: I literally, I have to do it.

56:07Paige DeSorbo: No, but my problem is Dez falls asleep during the Met game around 7.30. And then I put him down around 8. And then obviously I have to brush my teeth. Sometimes I have to shower. Like this is not conducive.

56:20Hannah Berner: And sometimes I'll truly be laying in bed. And this man will be falling asleep next to me. And I will be wide awake. and in my head I'll be like, I didn't have enough time with me today. And so I physically have to get up from the bed, go onto the couch, do something different, do something that's just for me. And I don't think there's enough women out here talking about what we're doing from the hours of like 10.30 p.m. to like, I'm going to say 2 a.m. I was going to say 2 a.m. Because I know there's a lot of women that were up.

56:53Paige DeSorbo: There's a word for it where it's like you have to make up for lost time in the day that you didn't spend by yourself.

56:59Hannah Berner: Yes. That's how I feel. That's how I feel. If I worked all day, if I woke up with a man in the morning, I worked all day and then I'm going home and I'm getting in bed with that same said man. I had no time alone. I had no time alone. You're like, if it's a different man, that's a whole different situation. That's just trying out different flavors. Yeah. You've got new things. Same man. You're like, I need to be alone for a second. That's when I scoop Kitty up.

57:26Paige DeSorbo: I was going to say, does Kitty love this like second time of the day where you hang out alone with her? She loves it. Yes. Well, yeah, because like when there's a man in bed, it's a different aura.

57:39Hannah Berner: Because like usually it's just the two of us. She's on her side. I'm on my side. Like she likes what I watch on TV. We don't ever disagree about it. Like she doesn't want any of my snacks. I don't want any of hers. so when there's a man in the bed she throws off the whole situation yeah butter when i'm just

57:55Paige DeSorbo: sleeping alone she's literally you could tell in her eyes she's like i could lay anyway kitty's

58:00Hannah Berner: purrs go crazy don't even need a sound machine with us don't even need a sound machine just pet

58:07Paige DeSorbo: her head it's the best oh anyway you guys it is gonna be an amazing week for everyone we love you so so so much and thank you for giggling with us talk to you soon bye