Giggling about Sports Illustrated, friendship breakups, and blondes

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1:47Hannah Berner: be managed.

1:52Hannah Berner: I mean, the day just got away from me.

1:56Paige DeSorbo: Hello, my glamorous gigglers. We're on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Just kidding.

2:03Hannah Berner: You know, you looked so beautiful. Thank you. Like, truly gorgeous and stunning. Oh my god, thank you. And I loved that you were wearing, like, a men's shirt. No, it was just so, like, you're like, yeah, this is my beach,

2:17Paige DeSorbo: bitch like that's how it felt you have to say i've been going to montauk since i was a little girl yeah little girl running around and it was a cool full circle moment but i have to say the only thing that really brings me joy in life is feeding the gigglers i was gonna say feeding the gigglers like i love when they like think they don't think something's coming and then they get to wake up and see something that they didn't expect and they get all jacked up like all i cared about was reading the comments of all the gigglers saying the funniest shit they just make me laugh so much and i just can't believe we have this community of cool girls supporting us you know it's something

2:54Hannah Berner: that brings me joy is like when you do something it it feels like i did it too because i'm like oh all my exes are so jealous hannah's illustrated and in my head i'm like do they care and i'm like

3:08Paige DeSorbo: yeah they do no they do also my buffalo wild wings commercial you know your exes were mad about that I know they were mad about that. You know, because you can't think of me without thinking of you.

3:16Hannah Berner: And also, like, just knowing that, like, a bunch of exes were watching March Madness, and then my best friend pops up on the TV, and they're like, oh, Paige's friend.

3:25Paige DeSorbo: And then they're, like, nervous that your ad's going to come up. So then they start just getting, like, paranoid. It's like double revenge, and there's nothing, there's no sweeter words to me.

3:34Hannah Berner: It's so true.

3:35Paige DeSorbo: But you guys, that's what female friendship is. like when you surround yourself with badass women like you take credit for their shit yeah that's how it feels I'm like it's amazing and you didn't even have to put on a baby I didn't even have to

3:48Hannah Berner: go I remember that shoot day you're like it's freezing I'm like I'm in bed but this is great

3:52Paige DeSorbo: for us and I do have to say like sports illustrated back in the day I think it was like an it was a little more like male gaze-y yeah like it was very like for the hot girls and for the men to buy the magazines i don't know but sports illustrated swimsuit has evolved so much where like serena williams has done it like all the wmba girls are doing it so when they asked me at first i was like is there are you sure yeah but then i realized i do have a fat ass yep and i was like no people see i say this all the time people were like wait boy i think it got such a response because people were genuinely surprised genuinely genuinely genuinely genuinely yeah surprised surprised

4:38Hannah Berner: but i've been telling the gigglers i'm like no she has huge boobs and like no one everyone's like are

4:45Paige DeSorbo: you sure but also i'm gonna be real with y 'all and i know zara zara larson zara larson said sorry i can't speak this morning said um she gets abs from giggling which we do which we do yeah but nothing will get you in the gym more than knowing you have a sports illustrated shoot and i know you guys remember me talking about pilates during that time which by the way haven't done pilates in like three months i've been on tour okay but um that will get your ass out of bed when you're like 50 50 should i go to the gym when you're like i need to look good for the and so shout out to sound body hamptons and west hampton i literally went my actual routine was like four times a week because you actually you actually have you can't do every day like you even if it's just pilates you have to recover yeah and yeah i'm on a recovery right now

5:39Hannah Berner: you're like i'm on a full year recovery for eight years you have to recover i also was playing a lot

5:43Paige DeSorbo: of tennis because i had that pro-am coming up that tournament so i had to be training for that i had a lot of pressure this summer you were training that was not related to anything that was like making me any money like not job related I had like a lot of I was in full training mode yeah you I also got a spray tan which changes the game um but I also just loved at like 34 just

6:06Hannah Berner: like it's the best I've ever looked yeah like I've never looked better did you ever think like oh I'm gonna be in like when you were younger because you were so sports focused like I don't I didn't know Sports Illustrated was a thing probably until like my 20s. Yeah. Like, did you always see it and think like, oh, I want to be in Sports Illustrated?

6:25Paige DeSorbo: Quick story. When I was working as a sports reporter at Wisconsin, I had something like kind of go viral of me interviewing Frank Kaminsky. And Barstool had written like an article about it. And it ended up being like, they kind of were like, oh, and look at this female sports reporter. Like, she's kind of cute, whatever. And I got it. Barstool really gets away with whatever they want. I got a, this is such a like moment in time. I got a Facebook message from Barstool saying, do you want to be smoke show of the month?

6:57Hannah Berner: Oh my God. That just unlocked a memory that I literally forgot I had.

7:03Paige DeSorbo: Now let me put you in. I forgot that was a thing. Let me put you in like 20 year old Hannah's mind. I was aghast. I was offended. It was smoke show of the week. Smoke show of the week. Sorry. I was upset me and my best friend lesbian Becca were like how dare they take my serious journalism career and just decide that they're gonna make me a smoke show also do you think I had photos of me in bikinis on my Instagram no it was like me crying with a tennis rack if I think back to

7:32Hannah Berner: smoke show of the week when we were in college that was so but I do think there were two types

7:38Paige DeSorbo: of girls there's the girls that are like I'm gonna monetize this I know I'm hot and these dumb idiots are gonna like give me follows and like cool and then there's the girls I think I was very anti like I was I was too I was very feminist about it where I was like how dare you yeah and I wrote I think I wrote like a whole paragraph like like not mean but just basically like thank you but like no thank you I I don't want to be a part of of that kind of thing so fast forward like I never dreamed of being on Sports Illustrated I never want I'm gonna say this so clearly men wanting to have sex with me has never done anything for me it's not a compliment men would have sex with an apple pie an apple pie a slightly warmed apple pie men have had sex with warm apple pies so like immense a man you're saying you're hot a man saying he would fuck you i i don't care about it it is not a compliment to me majority of the men i know can't read so like so that was not ever my goal and I think maybe it's because of like my parents are like I mean definitely my mom being like the baddest bitch ever but also my dad like it was all just about like are you working hard are you being kind are you like I wanted I never wanted to impress my dad by like looking pretty my dad got mad when I looked pretty he'd be like where's the

9:02Hannah Berner: rest of your shirt our dads are so different he's like I can't look at you put something on that

9:07Paige DeSorbo: pimple I will literally put on lipstick and be like you look like a clown so I never wanted to do something that was male gaze oriented or like pick me yeah that way even though I've definitely

9:18Hannah Berner: done pick me shit in the past I mean which we're not stronger than we're not when they approached

9:24Paige DeSorbo: me like this the like editor-in-chief is the coolest woman MJ and she was like we are about women like showing off and being proud of like who they are and like it does take I guess like a sense of confidence which yeah but Paige your favorite thing to say about me is you don't care

9:50Paige DeSorbo: I literally forgot are you no you said a lot you said my confidence needs to be studied yeah which is so funny because I in the caption I forget people don't like do sarcasm all the time but I was like I'm so so so shy and this was so so hard for me and girls were messaging me like I'm so happy you overcame your fear and I was like they're like you're so strong and like you did so well bitch I was shaking my ass the whole time they were like okay Hannah you're done you're you can go we got the shot 30 minutes ago Hannah no I actually was nervous I got to Montauk and I could hear there were like other girls there in the hotel which this was like bringing me back to like high school where you're like the new girl in school like everyone was already friends like I'm the rookie and people and other girls had shot for them yes prior yes and I remember Remy Bader was there and she texted me like do you want to come out and talk with us by the the fire like the watering hole yeah the watering hole but like they were really giggly so I'm like I'm not fucking like I literally got so socially anxious and I'm like I'm going to sleep I'm watching a tennis channel and that night I also remember I brought my razor I remember thinking you have to get every little spec because also sports illustrated and we talked about it I was like I don't want a lot of editing and they're like we're not about that but I was like then I have to do some manual labor here yeah it took a long time I can imagine I found places I didn't know I had yeah so when I started the shoot I was with Nicole Williams English yes she is I know who she

11:17Hannah Berner: is she is i'm obsessed i've been obsessed with her for years she was like the original on wags

11:23Paige DeSorbo: really yes see i didn't know that all i know is i walked in and like she's like an ai sports illustrated model gorgeous from the tip of her head yeah to her toenail yeah and then the nicest warmest human literally was like get in here it's gonna be so much fun you're gonna do

11:40Hannah Berner: great she was always my favorite on the show i think she has like two kids well what's crazy is

11:44Paige DeSorbo: we also had like really fun chemistry together you get partnered with her even though I wasn't in like shots with her she was like my partner for the day and we were just giggling giggling

11:53Hannah Berner: giggling but she's been with her husband for a while yeah she was like she has kids yep they have kids together yeah she's had babies and she when the show first started she was like we're not I don't know if they were engaged yet but it was all about like her wanting to get married and everyone was so mean to her. It was like, he'll never marry you. You'll never stay together. And now fast forward 10, 15 years, they're still together.

12:19Paige DeSorbo: And not to have respect for pretty people too, but people, you remember how they make you feel, not how they look? I literally don't remember how she looked by the end of it. I just remembered a warm, smiley feeling. Shout out, Nicole, you're the shit. But you're gonna die. So I'm so ready. They put you in your little thing, your little bikini. Your baby suit. your outfit they put you i'm in like a thong yeah and my ass is out yeah like it's music video time

12:48Hannah Berner: my mom's with me of course of course you need an adult on set what if they try and take advantage

12:54Paige DeSorbo: of you full momager she's literally like you're doing amazing she's looking at me she's like this this is all lenoir wanted yeah was for me to show off my body she's like finally a good shoot me and her are similar she's like enough with these jorts yeah so she's loving it and she's but she's also mama during it she's like eyebrows a little dark right now yeah okay she's she's literally chin up chin up you're doing amazing sweetie while i'm leaned over with my ass crack out so we get to this restaurant in montauk and i'm like great we're shooting at the restaurant and they go oh actually we're first going to shoot in front of the sign the sign is on the highway perfect there's cars driving through and nicole's like i'll go first yeah throws off her jacket

13:41Hannah Berner: in a like thong bikini people don't give enough respect to models standing yeah basically imagine you're on a highway and deciding i'm gonna stand here in a bikini it's like you told tyra your family died in a car accident and she was like you're on a highway so i came in i'm like i could

13:59Paige DeSorbo: do anything yeah i've i've been through a lot in my life i can handle a bikini shoot yeah i'd look at my mom i said i don't know if i could do this the men are honking at her no because she's what when did you shoot this because you shot it in september 10th so this was after like working out all summer yeah but like not let's be honest i wasn't that intense i wasn't like stopping eating right like i ate all summer right um you didn't like get on a zumbak no so she's getting honked at and she's just working it she doesn't give a shit and these are like all types of men driving these cars and this is i'm starting to get triggered i'm like i actually don't first of all they don't get this show for free yep also like men are so stupid they could be staring

14:40Hannah Berner: and then like go off the road it's dangerous yeah like i've seen so many men fall down stairs because they're i actually someone almost got into a car accident the other day because they saw two men watching this girl cross the street forget drug driving keep your eye off people's

14:56Paige DeSorbo: butts. We had to change like bathing suits and they put me, they put me in a bathing suit. When I tell you it didn't cover my pubes.

15:06Hannah Berner: You didn't shave your patch.

15:07Paige DeSorbo: I did, but like you can only shave so well in the thick parts. Like it was a little stubby. And I looked at my mom and I was like, my stubs are out.

15:16Hannah Berner: Well that they could edit.

15:18Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. But then they got me, they literally had to pull out like a dermaplane thing and I was dermaplaning my pussy. But this, I have a photo maybe I'll put it in the this is filtering full OnlyFans in the newsletter you could see the butt crack of my vagina do you know what I mean? yeah like it was that low yeah I know exactly what you mean like

15:37Hannah Berner: it was hair that I couldn't even get if I tried you're like the only other people that have seen this is me and God like I don't even know how to get down there

15:47Paige DeSorbo: people don't talk about vagina cracks enough and also I don't have a Kendall Jenner pussy like there's you're at least Chloe yeah there's cleavage so honestly I had way too much fun but the nerve wracking thing with it is you shoot obviously I forgot about it and then Sports Illustrated is like they're very uh like secretive secretive you can't tell anyone anything and then they were like we'll tell you what photo we're dropping the day of so I didn't know what photo they chose mind you we shot for eight hours like I shot in different locations I have all these different looks I posted the behind the scenes I was in charge of picking the photo the night before I was like so excited it's gonna come out and then I was like what if I eat the photo yeah what if it's my right side of my face because you know when other people pick your photo it wasn't though it was the left side it was the left side thank god my hair was kind of Donald Trumpy like I didn't feel that it was a little like no it was beachy it was beachy I just have to say I got lucky God had my back on this bikini shoot yeah and they picked a photo that I loved but it could have gone haywire

17:01Hannah Berner: it really could have but I don't think you probably took a bad photo that day shut up

17:05Paige DeSorbo: how many shoots have you done where like they shoot all day and then the article comes out and there's three photos and you're like oh that's the photo you choose honey in my contracts

17:15Hannah Berner: I get first approval do you in well sometimes like if you're sometimes if I'm working with a big brand they'll be like okay here are the four shots like pick your favorite I'm saying

17:26Paige DeSorbo: like press sometimes like if you do like yeah Marie Claire or like glamour yeah it's like

17:32Hannah Berner: they just like yeah let go and let god even like a lot of they choose to New York Times or Washington Post it's let go and let god they're not letting you pick yeah you're not like can I see some of them and like those like news things like they won't edit anything like I remember New York Times I was like I have a massive pimple honestly in the same spot and I was like you have to edit it out and they were like we don't do that like we can't yeah and I was like you're

17:56Paige DeSorbo: fired also sometimes they'll pick a quote that they use and it's always a quote that sounds like you sound like an idiot you sound like or I did sound like did say something stupid I'm like why

18:07Hannah Berner: did we pick that one i forget there was an article i did like over the past year and i was like guys i sound i get why people hate me i sound like a fourth grade reading level i had one that was like

18:19Paige DeSorbo: just believe in yourself so you can be more you and then you can do you i was like guys you gotta

18:28Paige DeSorbo: i'm like if the goal is to sell issues it's not on this one babe it's certainly not here also when you do take just a sentence out of context it's so easy to sound like

18:41Hannah Berner: cocky or so there are some situations where like if you work with big brands like they hire the stylist and you have no say on things so there's a lot of things where i'm like

18:54Hannah Berner: i'm like okay so you want everyone to hate me you know that everyone's gonna say that i look

18:58Paige DeSorbo: disgusting and that's what you want for me well the truth is you're getting booked because they know everyone wants to see what you wear yeah and then i'm like the girls are gonna have a field day with this one i've walked into things where like they pick stuff for me and you but they don't know what we're gonna do and then they go well page pick this and we have to go off of page's decisions and i'm like whatever those are my favorite shoots whatever makes her day go smoother as long as i don't have a side part yesterday was like kind of crazy i wasn't expecting it i was just hoping my photo didn't bomb because that's like embarrassing to post a bikini if if you never post bikini phone then you do and everyone's like no thank you it was not going to bomb sports illustrated has a reputation i did get a couple body positivity comments which trigger yeah you know i hate those i hate them they're just like thank you for representing like body positivity and someone's like thank you for not using glp ones and i'm like and i get it well that i and now i'm like

19:58Hannah Berner: that is a compliment. One made like, I forget what it was. It wasn't a TikTok. Where did I see it? Maybe it was a reel. Whatever. It was a Facebook marketplace. I'm pretty sure she was making a video for like a publication, but I can't remember whatever. And she was saying how women's body standards, like they're always changing and they're always different where like men's hasn't changed and like women being mothers, their expectation is always changing. It's only gotten like more insane where men's expectations of being fathers like hasn't changed in like that much in the past couple of years.

20:38But she was talking about how in the 90s,

20:41Hannah Berner: it was like super in to be super, super skinny. And that was like unattainable for a lot of people. So that was the beauty standard. Now that GLP ones, everyone can be super skinny if they want to be, what will be the new body standard? And so I was looking at the comments and a lot of the comments were like, it's going to be muscles because everyone can be skinny now or everyone could get a BBL.

21:07Paige DeSorbo: Muscles is what people lose when they do GLP ones. Yeah. And so it was just like a very interesting because I was like, I wonder if that will turn true. They always have to have a hierarchy.

21:18Hannah Berner: Like if other people can get it, then it's like you're not at the top. Yeah. It has to be unattainable.

21:24Paige DeSorbo: Yeah. Because once people realize that you could just buy boobs and asses.

21:27Hannah Berner: gonna be like joining bodybuilding that's why everyone's selling fucking protein popcorn

21:33Paige DeSorbo: shout out clo oh oh yeah everything's protein now is that why because i think this is okay guys this is a science podcast but this is a theory because everyone's on glp1 and by everyone i mean just more people than there used to be yeah you lose muscle mass so people are eating more protein to try to make up for the muscle mass that they think they're losing, I think.

21:58Hannah Berner: Did I tell you about when I was on the beach the other day and a lady pulled out a thing of cottage cheese? Was that me? No, but I was literally sitting on the beach and someone next to me pulled out just out of her beach bag. It's an 85 degrees. Out of her non-insulated, like woven beach bag, pulled out a thing of cottage cheese and ate it with a spoon. And I was just like, literally, I want to know everything about that girl.

22:27Paige DeSorbo: I'm obsessed with her. See, I felt the opposite.

22:28Hannah Berner: I was like, something weird's going on.

22:31Paige DeSorbo: I didn't say something weird wasn't going on. I just, I want to get to know her. Full on gossiping with her friend. I was like. And the friend didn't even comment on it. Not us for a second. They're sharing.

22:41Hannah Berner: And she ordered food. Oh. And so I was like, a snack before a snack. I love that. A snack before a snack. I just like wasn't expecting it to be cottage cheese.

22:49Paige DeSorbo: I had cottage cheese in my fridge and I hadn't opened it, but it's been around for a while and I realized like regardless if it's good or not it always looks like it went bad like if it's in my fridge more than five days it's went bad it's just cheese

23:03Hannah Berner: that went bad but I love cottage cheese I feel like we're on the extreme ends with that like I'm throwing something away two days before it expired see I'm eating anything that doesn't have

23:17Paige DeSorbo: like growths on it yeah but des is like you does is throwing shit away and i'm like okay okay like

23:23Hannah Berner: people will walk in and be like where's my my mom like the other day my dad was like you threw out

23:29Paige DeSorbo: the milk didn't you yeah i did that's the fights i've had i was like does that wasn't bad and he

23:35Hannah Berner: was like google it and i'm like i think because my mom was like that growing up like if there was leftover dinner in the refrigerator you could only eat it the next day she wasn't letting you

23:48Paige DeSorbo: eat it yeah two days after I get it if you've had like a traumatizing food poisoning experience yeah inflicted upon yourself have you ever had food poisoning I feel like I have subtle I micro

24:02Hannah Berner: dose food poisoning yes that's how I feel I don't think I've ever had it full on I may have what I'm really asking is have you ever shit and thrown up yes I've had it at Thanksgiving once

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28:03Paige DeSorbo: But finally with the Sports Illustrated. Also, Des is so annoyed with me. Everyone's like, Des must be loving it. I'm literally like, have you ever been with a Sports Illustrated Spimsy model before?

28:13Hannah Berner: Wait, did you just make him a calendar?

28:16Paige DeSorbo: He's like, okay, calm down. My head is so weird. I'm like, Sports Illustrated model's hair. You're like, I guess I have to walk in the show next year. No, I got a pimple. and I was like, I can't have a pimple. I'm a sports illustrator. Like people are going to question me. I want to show that women can be funny and depressed and anxious and a boss and scared and gorgeous.

28:36Hannah Berner: We have layers to our personality. We're not just one thing. Don't put me in a box.

28:40Paige DeSorbo: I hate being put in a box and I love like just when people think they know what box I'm in to change the box.

28:46Hannah Berner: It's the same thing of people that are like, oh, you think I'm like a quiet person. You just don't have access to my full personality. and that like I so like that's why I'm fine being a different version of someone in other people's stories because I'm like you don't even know me like you don't get full access that's why I love

29:04Paige DeSorbo: the gigglers because I feel like they do get a lot of access so when sometimes people say stuff about us the gigglers are like you guys are so far off you don't even know someone commented

29:13Hannah Berner: something me I don't even know what it was like they're stupid something and the gigglers were like actually we're all really funny and cool oh it was like a comment about the gigglers it wasn't even about us and they were and if they're gonna go hard for something it's for them they're like actually we're all really educated yeah we're in the smithstonian funny it's a bit you have to be smart to make fun of yourself i have a woman of seven of the week wait it's page's first ever woman of some of the week and you're not even gonna guess what it is that's my favorite it's the entire WNBA. They're all my Women of Stem of the Week.

29:55Hannah Berner: I don't know what they did.

29:57Paige DeSorbo: They're getting paid. It's the first time ever that a first round draft pick is getting like 500k.

30:03Hannah Berner: I think one girl is getting

30:06Paige DeSorbo: Ozzy Fudd.

30:07Hannah Berner: A million.

30:08Paige DeSorbo: Wait, do you know the lore of Ozzy Fudd?

30:09Hannah Berner: No, but what a name.

30:11Paige DeSorbo: She's gorgeous. She just got drafted to Dallas you know who's at Dallas Paige Beckers who is I love her who is was the number one traffic last year who's a full star and guess what

30:27Hannah Berner: Paige and Ozzy are dating oh then I do know who she is they're iconic together they just start dating or have they been dating yeah but it was like on the low

30:36Paige DeSorbo: and then they literally interviewed her and they're like are you excited to go to Dallas with Paige and she was like so cute about it she was just like yeah I respect Paige as a person there was something about Paige Beckers like on the internet and everyone was like tagging me in it and they were like oh like she went to like a basketball game

30:52Hannah Berner: like with a hoodie on like incognito and everyone thought people were like wait this is Paige DeSorbo they were like Paige would never wear this also if I'm sitting courtside you're gonna see it I'm gonna go into incognito courtside at the Knicks with some respect I've actually never seen you incognito who am i hiding from that's not a font in your dictionary we have some blonde on blonde crime happening blonde on blonde crime is so interesting to me because i stay far away from it it's blonde on blonde is very different when you put it like that it's so true and so

31:34Paige DeSorbo: funny some were saying it's white girl and white girl crime which is true but this is also this This is another layer.

31:39Hannah Berner: This is another layer. This is an upper level. This is an umbrella of that umbrella. There's white girl crime. Yep. And then there's blonde on blonde. Blonde on blonde. Two brunettes. Different. Two brunettes. Your ass got beat. Two brunettes. Staying your ass beat or staying your ass beat. That's brunette. Blonde on blonde. Blonde on blonde. CIA. FBI. Things are subtle. Things are. The passive aggressiveness. Yes.

32:08Paige DeSorbo: as a brunette I can't process it and this is why it makes me upset that people that there's like

32:12Hannah Berner: the joke like a dumb blonde because I have not met a dumb blonde in 15 20 years are they both they're both actual blondes I think I think they're both they're both yeah that's another layer layer to layer fake blonde on blonde very diabolical that's another umbrella born blonde on blonde the same name too speaking of blondes cate blanchett is set to play martha stewart in a biopic which i couldn't think of a better casting i love that my gripe with it i don't want just a movie i really because in what part of her life are you a comedy series i want a full yeah i want a full season like i want eight to ten episodes yeah because you can't she has so many eras yeah you can't put her whole life in one movie at all like and what era are you picking jail or are you picking the early years what if we just do jail that i'd watch that it's just orange is the new florals i just i just think it needs to be i think it needs to be longer

33:27Paige DeSorbo: than a movie for sure well she also people forget that she was a finance girl she worked in the

33:34Hannah Berner: yeah like I want them I want camp Cate Blanchett in Italy on her honeymoon making out with someone

33:41Paige DeSorbo: in a cathedral yeah yeah like get over it oh my god it is crazy that you get to a point in your life where people start like writing books about it and like you start winning like awards and like people do movies about like you're like it must be a weird feeling it's like I'm still alive like

34:00Hannah Berner: I'm still here actually when I was at this actor awards um which would call it got lifetime achievement Harrison Ford and he got up on stage and he was like I'm alive he's it's one thing if

34:14Paige DeSorbo: like you're on your deathbed but like he's in a full top TV show right now like the star of an apple series it is nice to appreciate things do you think you're good at because me and you let's be honest we are always working we're always like how can we do better we're always trying to improve things we're hard on ourselves do you think you're good at celebrating wins no not at all

34:38Hannah Berner: it's something I really need to dive into in therapy but I've got so many other things I know

34:43Paige DeSorbo: there's so many things going on I can't be stressed about celebrating wins but I also think about like when you think of good things that happen to you you're like oh should I sat in that longer because one thing people don't talk about you see people win championships and people win awards sometimes it it really is fleeting like it really feels like 30 seconds then you're already stressed

35:04Hannah Berner: about what you're doing the next day well I feel like it's also very fleeting because of the internet yes because the internet is on to the next thing and then it's like what has she even

35:13Paige DeSorbo: done is she even successful are we still talking about this yeah like no truly like let us have a

35:19Hannah Berner: w the only time i get annoyed is when someone ever tries to like say that my success comes from any type of man like any man in the entire world chapter so that's the only time where i'm like actually bitch i'm a new york times bestselling author you guys there's another version of giggly

35:36Paige DeSorbo: squad where we after denver said we're not doing this anymore yeah you were like i'm traumatized it could have caused like you did not want to do the pod in an alternate universe somewhere

35:49Hannah Berner: i'm like pregnant and laying on the couch and like scrolling which does sound quite peaceful scrolling instagram being like i could have done that i could have done that but you like push

36:02Paige DeSorbo: through despite a lot of difficulties yeah where men were involved which i do have to shout out to myself i did say you don't have stage fright this is other things and you were right which actually

36:15Hannah Berner: brings me to a great segue i wrote in my notes emma and i remember who who was i knew i'm a grade

36:20Paige DeSorbo: just put a book out she's so like is that why i love her so much because she sounds like so freaking smart every time she talks she looks amazing well she also's running like multiple

36:32Hannah Berner: million million dollar companies but she has a book out and or it's coming out so she's doing all like book press tour and one of the number one things she said

36:43Paige DeSorbo: thank you

36:52Hannah Berner: one time now all of a sudden is a monster on set i didn't wear makeup for the first time in seven weeks and she's like you're kind of grossing me

37:02Paige DeSorbo: Can you just a little. Okay. Get the frog out. Let's go. She said that she and people are like, okay, wasn't that funny?

37:14Hannah Berner: No, she said she's been like doing all these interviews. And I don't know if this was from the book. It must have been from the book. It's like one of the quotes they pulled. And she said, I'm a three hour mom. And people were like, oh, like up in arms about it. And so she explains it where she's like, I work Monday through Friday. and then if I wake up in the morning and I'm with my kids all morning on Saturday and we're doing the birthday parties and we're hanging out we're playing with cars on the rug then at a certain point I have to go run errands like I need to do things for myself for the next week of work and she was like and that's not a crazy thing to say like she's really also I would argue she she isn't

37:56Paige DeSorbo: really a three-hour mom and that all the stuff she's doing is also to provide for her family to be a mom but she also was I saw a part of that clip where she was like I also want to be realistic with women I don't want them thinking that I'm doing all these mothering things while I'm also in all these meetings while I'm also running these companies and making them feel shit about themselves you have to prioritize your time also if a dad said I'm a three-hour dad everyone would be like oh because he's working so hard for the family that's the thing like a man wouldn't even enough to say that when he had a baby oh no one would ask how many hours no they'd be like did

38:30Hannah Berner: you try no like once it's so crazy she's a badass though i really like her too i really like her she has a podcast and she um she just wears a cute outfit i'm obsessed with it i love it how we both

38:44Paige DeSorbo: like the same person but it's always for different reasons you're like did you see her shoes she's gorgeous she is gorgeous i'm like i could just stare at her um des and i did celebrate the end of my tour which ended up being 68 shows oh my god i know and i went to the dentist yesterday because grind your teeth a lot yeah you have to bring that up to like get a cleaning and my invisalign and they were they like were disappointed in me you know they can't help it they're just like you need to floss more like are you flossing i'm like i don't not floss but i'm not like doing it every time after i eat and the lady was like you gotta floss and then at the one point was like she was like why did you stop using your invisalign trays and i looked at her and she didn't know like who i was or anything or what i do and i just said i had 68 shows and she looked at me you have to talk i had 68 shows yeah and i i forgot it a couple trips the next thing you know it was hurting when i put it in and then i just stopped because i want to get a good night's sleep and the lady was like okay we don't need all the details but like that's

39:49Hannah Berner: why i hated botox i was like sorry my job is to speak sorry i'm a three-hour invisalign per day girl yeah but and that's enough and that should be enough that should be enough i think i might

39:59Paige DeSorbo: have to get permanent underneath because i crowd easily but i digress doesn't i were like let's go to dinner which is hard as a married couple because you're like we could easily order in we could easily i'll have cereal i don't give a fuck like i don't want to put on clothes but he's like you have to work on celebrating when you do something and he's good at that like he's like when he finishes tours they'd they had this they'd always go out for Chinese food it was like their thing and like you have to create your own traditions is what I'm realizing yeah and I think you're good at your own fun yes like you have to romanticize your life because no one is gonna do it for you and it doesn't it never feels good unless you want to feel it and no one really

40:38Hannah Berner: it talks about I mean they do but like not in depth of like the friend shift in your 30s in my 20s and in my 30s in New York it's not like I had a friend group of girls that like they were all friends like I had two girls that were friends and then I had like a friend over here that I would go out with that like didn't really know those girls but like okay if we were all at a dinner but I never had like a five person group chat where we were all friends. It was all girls because you just meet different people in different parts of your life. And so it is interesting now being 33, not married with no kids.

41:17Hannah Berner: And it's like, how do you hang out? Like they have to make time. You have to make time. Then you have to figure out something that like benefits both of you. That isn't like, like I don't want to call my friend and be like, let's go to a Pilates class. you know like because we're not talking for that hour we're just in the same room but i also feel

41:38Paige DeSorbo: like when you hang out in your 30s it like means more because you're like holy shit like you yes take we're in your 20s you'll fall into someone's couch like like my one girlfriend dominey like

41:48Hannah Berner: we've been trying to hang out for i'm not kidding a year and when you actually do yeah it's gonna

41:53Paige DeSorbo: feel so good and like be quality time and you just know these people fuck with you because you know that like they could be hanging out with their family they could be with their kids this episode

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44:33Paige DeSorbo: and i also have to say about your 30s not to cause drama but in your 30s once the things you've been chasing start to like come to fruition yeah you people treat you differently oh people treat you differently like you it gets it can be lonely like when when oh I saw a quote that I wrote down that um I think was probably TikTok oh it said make sure you pick friends who love their life or they'll end up hating yours oh

45:05Hannah Berner: wait that is really it shook me because i would say that with dating too yes i surround myself

45:12Paige DeSorbo: with people who like like what they do like what they do because it's not about success it's not about money it's about is this person like alive when they talk about what they're up to i have some friends who and like like who they're with oh those are and those are my favorite people because i call them and they're happy in their relationship they have and i have some people they have jobs that like I would be so bad at and I don't know how they get through the day

45:35Hannah Berner: it's what they love to do you absolutely love real estate I know like next level and I know

45:42Paige DeSorbo: that when I started discovering stand-up like it it caused issues with people who I think they saw me even though I wasn't like immediately popping off with it at all yeah they saw that at least I was like chasing something that I wanted and instead of them chasing what they wanted they just started like having negative energy towards me yeah and a lot of men well stand-up triggers a lot a lot of men were like visibly mad at you visibly about the stand-up yeah it was very funny

46:13Hannah Berner: it was very funny very funny chill out my mom has said this from like when we were little and now it like has come into my adult life and she would always say my child's success does not take away from your child's success. Like whenever there was like a girl that was like jealous or mean or whatever, she would be like, what you're doing isn't taking it away from them. They can also do it. And like now as an adult, it's even more true of like what I'm doing isn't, I'm not taking your spot. And it was so interesting because anytime I've ever felt jealous of someone else it's more that I'm like why didn't I also work toward doing that it's not like that person in particular it's more like oh I think I could do that too and I realize a lot of people feel

47:03Paige DeSorbo: jealousy because you think people don't deserve what they're getting yes you don't know what that person did to get there right and try to tell yourself I don't know what they did with closed doors I don't know what they're dealing with I'm looking at Instagram and I'm I'm putting a whole narrative and story around them they earned it and I'm gonna earn mine so now I was celebrating with Des at this dinner and it was interesting dinner where like it wasn't omakase which by the way I've never done omakase have you done omakase you know I never done it before and I

47:35Hannah Berner: did it one time and like I don't know I was like 23 years old and I had no idea what was going on throwing octopus at me I was like on a date I had no idea it was even expensive I was like for this little thing so i had no idea i remember i hated the date and i got in an uber although it's probably like a thousand dollars easily i had no idea i get in an uber i call my girlfriend i'm like where are you i just had like a horrible date i'm gonna meet you at whatever i'm starving do you want mcdonald's i went to the bar the guy texted me and was like did you seriously go out after our date and i was like he was like i took you to omakase i was like i didn't i don't even like that restaurant you're never asked for an omakase yeah like i didn't know also if you take me to an expensive dinner that you're not then owed something after what year is this it takes a long time that's like a three hour dinner babe no it takes so and i know you you like a little snack seven diet coke but this but this wasn't omakase but it was one of those where you sit at the bar and

48:41Paige DeSorbo: you could see people like cooking and it was like kind of fancy and they had like a wine sommelier which i'm obsessed with wine sommeliers pronounce that correctly i'm new i'm obsessed with them because i'm like you're you're like this is my life's passion that's a male dominated area that women are really starting to um get into do you know it's crazy male wine sommelier the whole kitchen men and i turned to des and i go this is just why are they all men why are all the men the chef's men yeah like like women don't tell me women can't cook right because people say women can't do chess don't tell me they can't cook yeah like let's let's get our our tubes in order so so anyway this guy's the wine sommelier so i'm just watching him fascinated by his mustache

49:25Hannah Berner: just can't stop looking at him i was supposed to get my pimple injected the other day but i didn't go because i popped it kind of and then i got nervous but then i should have gone anyway thank

49:35Paige DeSorbo: Thank you for that intrusive thought. Let it out. When it comes, let it out. This is my place. This is where I let it out. This is your safe place.

49:41Hannah Berner: And I didn't wear makeup today because I just, like, I couldn't.

49:44Paige DeSorbo: Anyway, keep going. Back to the wine sommelier. Yeah. Do you know that these guys taste the wine and then spit it back out? Mm-hmm. I didn't know that. At the restaurant? Yeah. So the guy's job, he, like, opens something. And I guess to, like, explain what the wine tastes like, they take a sip. In front of you? Yeah. They take a sip. I've never seen that. And they go. and he like does this weird thing and then he takes this this black cup thing and spits it out and i said oh i turned to desi go that man just spit out and he goes yeah he can't be drinking wine all night he'll get black out and i'm like i've never seen that before never seen them do that at the table i think they do it behind the scenes normally but because it was like omakase style the guy the bartender was just like right there i was like i can see that's like you know when you eat a chicken and you hit a weird thing you're like i'm gonna get this on my mouth and like no one looks and you like spit it out in the napkin that was so niche but i know exactly what you're like i'm actually done with this meal anymore because a piece of cartilage touched

50:44Hannah Berner: my tooth if when the chicken starts tasting like chicken i gotta go when and it could be the

50:48Paige DeSorbo: tiniest piece of cartilage i said i'm out that's an animal yeah um so just want to let you know that's happening out there in these streets these men are out here like spitting okay i didn't know

50:58Hannah Berner: that that was happening but I did know that like their test to become that like a sommelier is like one of the most insane tests ever like they just give you a glass of wine you have to say the year the region and like what it so it could be like oh 1562 like that's insane I mean I I love when

51:22Paige DeSorbo: people love something so niche and it brings them joy but also it's like at some point you're like this is alcohol you're not a wine sommelier okay like you fucking want to go on wine tastings like every weekend okay that's call a therapist why so that's like me saying oh yeah i'm a cocaine sommelier let me sniff that

51:48Hannah Berner: i'll blow it out after it is a crazy profession i wonder if they make a lot of money i think

51:54Paige DeSorbo: they have to if like it causes there's so much training involved there's a lot of training but then there's a lot of training to become a teacher and they don't pay them period oh my god tell me

52:05Hannah Berner: the clavicle guy that like i can't get enough of because he's just so insane yeah brought to the

52:10Paige DeSorbo: hospital last night overdosed well he loves drama well he does math yes also someone messaged me that and was like more chess.com drama so the girls are getting confused with all the nerdy brown haired men.

52:23Hannah Berner: Avacol just like really like there's just some I'm so fascinated on whatever the fuck that subset of the internet is. It's fascinating but it's scary. Well it should be illegal. You can't go on the internet and tell a bunch of 16 year old kids that they should do meth.

52:41Paige DeSorbo: He's a looks maxing meth sommelier.

52:43Hannah Berner: Like that's like where and he he's from Jersey. and that upsets me because I'm like I know his mother is somewhere really upset really upset

52:56Paige DeSorbo: or enabling him being like he's he's a sweet boy yeah he's working on some stuff clavicle we hope you get sober we hope you love yourself as just for you I literally don't give a shit

53:08Hannah Berner: but I just think it's crazy that this is like that he's getting so also I didn't tell you

53:14Paige DeSorbo: something i just want to tell you to wrap this up yeah we're going to devil wears prada premiere

53:19Hannah Berner: on monday i'm bringing my mom oh my gosh can you bring kim i'm bringing lucho so we have picked

53:26Paige DeSorbo: okay well that makes sense too who's gonna take pictures of us i know yeah we can't have lenore on photo duty

53:35Hannah Berner: that actually makes me sad because i didn't even think to bring my mom normally I bring Haley

53:42Paige DeSorbo: but my mom was like free which she rarely is

53:46Hannah Berner: usually I bring Josephine but she's god knows where god knows what she literally quit and was like I'm going on vacation I haven't seen her in a month

53:54Paige DeSorbo: anyway we love you guys thanks for getting with us and have an amazing weekend bye