Giggling about stylists, serial killers, and sanity

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1:29gave me PTSD of like when your mom's on the phone you're like mom mom mom and finally she's like what and you're like I forgot she put one finger up like mommy's on the phone wait why do I remember where was I where like I had a fake phone or something you kept trying to talk to me and I kept being like hold on one second oh that was a photo shoot we did you were so annoyed with me

1:50Hannah Berner: and I couldn't stop if we were kids together you would have annoyed me at so many different I think that's why we became friends later in life because I would have been like nonsense no I would have annoyed you but then you would have been bored as fuck without me and you'd be like fine I'll hang out with Hannah even though she's a little annoying you know what's funny is like people in my everyday life will like bring you up which is like the joy of my life and they'll always say the same thing like wow you and Hannah you really think that Hannah's funny don't you like you I'm like okay has no one ever seen someone with a best friend before like I can't I'm not the first person you've ever seen have a best friend like people are like I think maybe because it's my personality like they're so shocked that I could love well like so unconditional love is real yeah it is also it's giving they're jealous that I have your attention I think that's what it is they're like we can't believe she's you chose her over me i'm like she's the boss you chose donkey girl i felt like you were gonna say something oh yeah so yesterday we got a call this is the thing page and i are in business together which like i forget all the time like a lawyer will hit me up and be like what does page think and i'm like who and I'm like oh you want us to give you okay let me I was I was on the phone with her just now but we were talking about not business sometimes I respond to emails and it's literally the sentence is if Hannah wants to I will like that and I'm like I'm a grown woman and I'm like if my friend's going I'll go so I get a call from like a ton of people on a team of something whatever the other day someone emailed me and they were like do you want to go to the US Open and I go I don't know look at Hannah's schedule like she's in charge of us at the US Open oh the US Open that's me which I'm gonna get into as well I want to tell the gigglers what to do for the US Open and I return the favor by sending you my fashion week schedule and like anything that you'd like to accompany you know like we have our things wait am I allowed to go with you well I don't know if everything some of them are really hard invites they were like which fashion shows do you want to go to and i was like i could tackle on well i actually didn't say it because i well that's why i sent you that list of places that i'm trying to go to so if there were any that you wanted to come with me you had the list of places okay i actually haven't looked at that list yet it's okay oh yeah so i get this call it's all these people and they're like we're trying to get page we can't get page and then i was like oh let me let me call her like she probably won't pick up for you guys but she'll pick up for me i was like no she would pick up this like important call so then i start calling people around you yeah i'll find one thing about me i'll find page because i'm like she's not napping she's too much anxiety to nap yeah she's existing somewhere if she even if she's working out she will check her phone during the workout every like five to ten minutes so like let's do it so i start calling other people finally gets to you and you're like what's going on if i have a robe on if i have a robe on the day is done you're such a mom if my phone's in my robe i'm having me time i knew that your day was done because it was like 7 p.m or 6 30 but you go i'm doing my outfit I'm doing algorithms I'm doing math I'm doing my outfits I'm doing math sorry there's a formula I'm doing science in my room right now what could I was literally a kid playing in my own room minding my own business and I have people busting it I envisioned you as like the sunny in Philadelphia is that the show always sunny in Philadelphia always sunny Philadelphia meme where the guy's like pointing to all the different things like that's you trying to figure out your outfits but you're like carry the one minus two i'm like if it's a if it's four days but three nights i could wear this twice if it's a culotte and a tube top how do i i go but what if the temp drops below 75 i'll need a jacket i respect you and your art stop playing with your stupid fucking outfits we have an important call right now me and kitty were in a serious meeting okay and then i had to tell the team sorry she was doing outfits are you familiar with this no and then joe walks in joe walks in he's on the phone he's on the phone with a girl and the girl's on speaker and i think nothing of it and i hear the girl go well where is she and he's like i got her right here and i look at him and i go who the hell is that

6:54Hannah Berner: and he shows me the phone it says hannah burner i go hannah burner I was so confused in the moment I was like is there a tornado like what is happening I didn't want to have to call Joe I didn't want to have to get him involved but when I knew that he would know right and when I call him he always thinks it's an emergency yes which is good which is good which is good because he's protective um so I found you in your basement playing with your clothes if you need an assistant or at least an intern lois is available by the way honestly i would bring lois on full time as creative director of all page to sorbos brands page lois is so into project runway right now and our episode she must think we're literal princesses well let's not say we because she goes okay let's play a game you're hannah i'm page tell me you like my outfit i said okay i love your outfit it's so pretty and she goes tell me tell me i'm the pretty one i said i can hear you you go hey it's it's still me you made me be me this is me she goes i'm the pretty one lois is no i'll cry so then me hang the thing is i know how to deal with her because i'm like what would little page do it's actually kind of like i have so much fun because i feel like i'm hanging out with little page and i start pulling up project runway's instagram and showing all like the dresses they make and i'm like lois tell me which ones you like she's judging harder than la roach yeah she's going ugly ugly next yawn nobody's working no ew gross whatever what is it 2005 i wasn't even alive then and i know this is trash don't a stomp those last season produs shoes on me honey and then but then she knows immediately when she likes something she goes love yeah love knows immediately and i said to her you know do you want to be a stylist or do you want to actually like design clothes and she goes i could do both and i was like it's 2026 we're multifaceted hannah but then genie comes her mom and she's like what are you guys doing you're so quiet and she's like are you just scrolling instagram and the kids are watching and i'm like basically so apparently that you're not supposed to do that for like an hour you're a screen parent i was just scrolling the project runway's instagram but I showed her all our clips.

9:30Hannah Berner: And what'd she say? I saw your walk that she made you do. She made you do a full runway walk. Well, Jeannie was like, can you stop showing my children Instagram? And I was like, that's so valid. I'm so sorry. I got lost in the sauce. You need to say that more often. Lost in the sauce. I got lost in the sauce. Are they like Miss Rachel people? Yeah, they're like kind of aging out of it, but Miss Rachel's like good music that they like. That every now and then it's like a bop. Okay. um they also like the the wiggles which like loki so do i the wiggles are still around how old are they the wiggles are they had to have recasted i do think they've recasted but they're australian so australians are healthier and they don't age and they don't age i feel like all australians are loki vampires there's a song called something the dog he likes to tango it is so good i'm like bobby can we play it again and it's i i loved it speaking of screen time i have been doing some due diligence and just like watching tv actually good someone has to because i'm mothering someone has to someone has to give rex someone has to let me tell you something i feel like a lot of people are like you have good scripted show Rex and like I you do I'm non-fiction you're fiction my new one is on Hulu it's called furious and it's about it's with Emmy Rossum someone was telling me about this yesterday Hannah it's so good first of all I she's so good if you haven't watched shameless I would say watch shameless because yeah then you just like really love her as an actress yeah it's just such a unique show like they're trying to find a female serial killer and it's just Hulu did it so well and you know me I don't love a thriller I'm so mad we didn't think of that I'm so mad we didn't think of that concept serial killer a woman yeah I mean the serial killer is so smart and it's just like yeah there's definitely if women were serial killers you'd never find them no they also I feel like there's like a study somewhere that's like whatever sign is the most serial killer but then they're like there's no scorpios which is really scary which means like are the scorpios the ones that don't get caught because like that seems like the sign that would be the like you would be like they're the most wait that makes they're just not getting caught so scared of you right you know yeah that's like so even though i am a scorpio rising so i have to i have to ask someone about that also i hate blood so like we don't have to worry also fully on a business call i asked page in front of like 18 professional people what her astrologer would say and i wasn't joking and page was like let me i have to text them and then everyone was like anyway no hannah no one was giving me answers no one was giving me answers Hannah was asking questions and no one was responding and she goes let me bring in the big guns page do you have your astrologer on speed dial I go what day of the week is it because I'm really into numerology and I'm not sure we should make any decisions the fact that it's the sixth.

12:55well anyway we are on this episode of project runway doing cameos yeah how was your experience

13:04Hannah Berner: my experience first of all it was a dream come true because i feel like when you watch things on tv and then you experience it in real life you're just like wait what so weird um i i just like loved the whole feeling of it i do wish we were judges because i feel like i wish we had like the juxtaposition of them like walking in a new in new outfits and being like serious so maybe next season we do a little like judging but i also really can't stand when people have to get out like I'll cry like watching their dreams be crushed like I kind of liked being in the work room just being like silly billies but don't you love being around for someone's villain origin story like someone getting someone getting kicked off might be the kick in the ass they need to then like succeed okay so you have yeah mental health moment sometimes rejection is redirection Marilyn Monroe once said that period period no seriously sometimes like things that don't work out not even that it's redirection gives you the motivation that you might have not had like my revenge knows no bounds oh 100 I think sometimes people not believing in you you can react two ways you can feel fucking sorry for yourself and be like well why don't people believe in me or be like i can't wait to blow up so much that these people are going to be tortured by my presence actually the other day i was on the phone with my mom and this is a direct quote from myself to my mother i said mom but i need more revenge she said how much can you really get i said i need more and sometimes i do feel bad sometimes i was like that that was too much but like you know what i was too much on them you do you you do you that's that's god's karma i'm like a huge project runway fan yeah pull up in the sri lanka and do you remember that quote am i anarchy fan pull up in the sri lanka that wasn't on project runway no that was like that was like wendy williams well you know what i think what one of the funniest parts of doing project runway was that christian siriano could not understand how we got that gig he was like and you guys are here because he knew you he knew you he loves you you guys have worked together you guys are cute i came in look he looked me up and down i said it's vintage babe no he goes so the whole show is a joke to you guys but also in the beginning i was respectful like in the beginning i was just being cute i was asking questions after a couple people i got too comfortable i started i was pitching i I said, what about this?

15:58This is what I like to do. If you don't like it, start over. Just scratch it. Just scratch it. I'm liking, I have a long torso. I'm liking this. I'm liking that. And you were looking at me like, hey, just stop it. Stop talking. Well, sometimes fashion is silent. And that's why the fashion community has been, they're not ready for me yet.

16:19Hannah Berner: You let the clothes speak for themselves. And Hannah doesn't believe in that. She wants to give reasons and validation. You did give an anal joke on Project Runway, though, and it made the cut. Which I was like so proud of you. I was like. Every once in a while, I will throw out an anal joke and you can take it and receive it. No pun intended. Or you can throw it back. I do think from the first time we did TV together to that moment, you have really progressed and I am so proud of you. You've really taken me out of my shell. You've really broken me out of my shell. I do want to point out that during the filming of Project Runway, I was deep in my Botox reconstruction surgery.

17:01Hannah Berner: I didn't want to say it. Your lip was moving a little strange. My bottom lip was not moving. It was like this. And so like I look at side profile of me laughing. My whole mouth has regressed into my mouth. Like my like. Your outfit did the talking. My outfit did the talking. I really feel like no one could even notice because now we're so used to your master massacre and like how intense it is that I feel like no one even noticed my bum lip. I'm so sorry. No, no, I'm happy about it. I'm happy that no one noticed. Yeah. People were like, that's not a thing. I also wore my Kalina Strada glasses that I was waiting to.

17:46yeah and i felt like this was the moment what people didn't see behind the scenes was at one point i was like i gotta take these off i can't see anything yeah took them off left it on someone's workstation during it realized can't find it telling producers someone needs to find my my glasses they're very expensive and i have to give them back and had the whole production in a tizzy i didn't know that oh yeah i didn't want to distract you because you were really into the moment i was i lost my glasses at one point well it's funny because when you got there you

18:15Hannah Berner: had the glasses and we did like some photos and i thought she just wants them for the photos i was mistaken those glasses were your personality that day and you know what i warmed up to them yeah i i started to think what is the outfit without the glasses like the outfit is not complete and if you don't have those glasses paige sorbo didn't she not quote big glasses are back big glasses are back so i was just listening to pages orbo what other moment are you gonna get other than project runway to wear whatever the fuck you want it's personal all of a sudden everyone doesn't care about personal style all i hear all day long is personal style personal style my friend pops out in personal style and you're gonna be rude to her about it i don't think so the critics get confused because they'll say let's say to you i want my personal style but then i come in we don't want personal style pick a side pick a side pick a side you know what we didn't talk about which like we have no skin in the game i hate that saying yeah i really don't like saying skin unless it's about unless it's about unless it's about moisturizing it yeah saying no skin in the game feels like for whatever reason you're peeling skin off yeah it's giving like in the flesh i don't like that either i don't like that either unless it has to do with micro needling i don't want to be talking about that and unless there's red light therapy involved you want to cancel why i had to cancel my micro needling appointment this week because you really shouldn't be in the sun and then do it and i just felt like i was in the sun a couple days too close to the micro needling so i said let's put a pause i haven't done it Because I'm like, will I be in the sun for the next two weeks?

20:03I'm like, probably.

20:05Hannah Berner: You can't risk it in the summer. So I said, let's put a pause on it until like end of August when I can know that I won't be in the sun and then we'll get to it. Or just get a really cunty hat. Like a big droopy hat. I'm all about my skin barrier. I can't. That's a made up thing. That's a made up by the patriarchy. Are you drinking a nice coffee? Or an orange juice. Yeah. I'm like, get it. That's a big boy. Yeah. I'm too caffeinated this pod. I'm sorry, guys. I can't start or finish a sentence this pod. I apologize. I actually can't wait to see you as a mother. Cause I think we're going to get such a drastic change in areas that we didn't see coming.

20:48Well,

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26:23With Project Runway with Lois, I was like, let's design an outfit. And she put together an outfit. She was like, pretend you're Paige. I was like, I get it. You literally hate me right now. And I just love being creative. I'm going to show up at Lois's birthday party. No, she died. She died. And but I loved she was like she went up to Grammy and she said, I made that dress for my imagination. And like, that's what I love about childhood. It was so simple and beautiful.

26:54Hannah Berner: Do you do Lois and Bobby? Did they pick what they're what they call your mom? Or did does your mom did your mom influence what they call her? I think the grandparents chose because one side they have Gigi and then she's Grammy. and then my my dad is dan pa because his name is dan that's so him that is he's so main character he was like yeah what a time in your life to think like and now what shall i be called like it's the only time in your life that you're allowed to make up your own nickname and people don't get weird about it you can't judge it because you're like i'm a grandpa any other time in your life if i walked in and i was like hey call me glamma you'd be like no you're a freak but all of a sudden you hit 72 and they're like grandma the crazier the better too it's like call them anything and people love it i guess some people are really against being like called grandma people don't some people really don't like grandma yeah it's like when you call a gym teacher a gym teacher they're like it's a physical educator yeah some people try and make up like crazy things but i feel like i'm like i'm gonna go with whatever my first grandchild comes up with like whatever they can say that's who i am risky it's risky but like at that point in my life like what's what's the story i'm telling yeah you want them to read your natural aura it's not my story anymore yeah oh my god you're so selfless who do you see me as and that's who i will embody but The problem is they can only say like a couple syllables for the first like eight months.

28:37That's true.

28:38Hannah Berner: Also thinking about myself as a grandma is like actually really making me spiral and I don't, I can't do it. It's a Friday. It's a Friday. That's why there's a lot of ya-ya's. I think that's a Greek one, ya-ya. Wait, I got a DM the other day. Remember we were talking about pasta with butter and Parmesan cheese? Yeah. I got a DM the other day and someone said, I never had pasta with butter and Parmesan cheese. It's like not having bread and butter. and I didn't I didn't can I didn't continue reading you blocked I said how jump scare you remember everyone was saying jump scare and now no one does anymore yes which I actually want to call something out before that was even a thing my dad and I had our own version of that like if this is really traumatizing the more I think of it And this is how I know like me and my dad are the same person and that actually pisses me off.

29:36Hannah Berner: Something that pissed me off this week. Like I know how you feel because it's how I feel when I'm with my dad. Like I love when you're in glam. My dad loves when I'm in glam. And like if there's a moment where I'm not, I look like heinous, he would turn and look at me and say, Fright Night. which is so traumatizing and i will never forget this one distinct time when i had my wisdom teeth out the man wouldn't look at me wouldn't look in my direction and that's why you value your look so highly and that's put on the list for when you do eventually get your appointment with your therapist that's been a long time coming talk that through we talk about my yeah but i'm like fully a dad to like we played four sets of tennis yesterday and the kids were just like hannah when are you done and i'm like after the set yeah but you just played a set we it's it's three out of five babe i do feel like we will be the kind of moms which we like say this now but like it probably won't happen we're like we're doing things and they're coming with us like i can't go on a kid's schedule i can't well that's like two types of parenting i guess we're like sometimes okay i'm right now saying yes to everything she wants because i'm fun like this is temporary but it's not your child yeah but okay so this i when i wake up i'm wearing my cute daphne t i'm wearing my butter pajamas yeah yeah and i come outside and she goes we need to change your outfit that's the first thing she says to me and then i have to go in and she tells me what I'm going to wear for the day.

31:22It's very controlling.

31:24Hannah Berner: You're her real life Barbie. How long are they there till? When did they leave? Today's their last day. That's why I'm giving them their last hurrah. I know it's really sad. I know how mothers feel. I'm like, I've been in a controlling relationship for two weeks, but I miss her. Yeah. So she tells me to put on this shirt, but this is the problem. We have very different styles. She told Jeannie, she goes, Hannah's good at styling me, but she's not good at styling herself she said that like she's really a stylist at this she's clocking things she's clocking she's like the vision is there your execution needs work i love my like gray culottes and she hates gray she hates culottes she wants i like don't love gray either like unless it's all gray different colors of gray okay but just like a gray item it doesn't like excite me it's also like she's not like looking at the outfit she the second i put it on she's like i know i literally can't even look so she tells me to put on this shirt but there's a zipper and i'm like lois can you zip it for me and she's like i actually can't she's like that's below my pay grade so i go up to des i'm like can you zip this for me but he was lying on the bed so he goes sit down let me zip it for you sit down and she goes do not boss hannah around i boss hannah around and then i'm like okay so you know what you've been doing this whole time yeah she knows what she's been doing she fully knows that i say yes to everything she says yeah so she put together a whole outfit before i had to go to dinner last night and what was it doll well she wanted me to wear this like white dress and like we are in the hamptons and she accessorized it with like actually a really cute black sandal so it made it like a little bit edgy wait i love and she's like she's working like she's sweating put an outfit on and you're like shit this is good well we went through like a bunch of outfits like i felt like i was in a styling session because we looked in the mirror together and she was like something isn't working something's not working and she was like it's not the top i love the top change the sweat change this like she's right the girl's right the girl's right but she also was like you need why don't you have a midi skirt she's like it's a summer midi skirt where's your mini shirt this is so me like this is just me in middle school with any teacher that would walk in I'd be like you want me to learn from someone who put this together this morning like how can we trust her how can we trust what she's saying she clearly has no mind of her own no i was a savage like i would literally like grab my mom and be like this woman's outfit is she kidding and but also like it's so cute how girls are such natural born leaders natural she's running a tight ship a tight ship and you can't lie to her you can't get anything past her i'm like yeah i'll put that on and she's like do it now wait i've noticed that too with children you can lie to little boys and they're like okay no they're like okay totally little girls are like i don't i don't think that's true i think you're lying to me like and you're like yeah it's kind of crazy and yesterday i was playing tennis and they were watching frozen and I came into the room right when the song was playing let it go and this is your heart's delight I'm kind of jealous that we didn't have frozen growing up because that shit I get pumped up when let it go comes on can't hold me back anymore let it go I um have you listened to the lyrics it's the most empowering shit ever azeen emazelle adele dazzy i here's the thing i thought frozen was good like i watched it when it came out what was that like 2012 when was that yeah it's been years but i i think maybe because it's just pure nostalgia like i don't think it even compares to any of ours where you think it's better than ours i don't even know it holds a candle when let it go comes on i'll i go through like a range of emotions i'm crying i'm picking beauty and the beast over let it go any day yeah i mean mulan's my number one mulan's your number one and i think snow white and beauty and the beast are my number one i also love princess aurora you know it's just that it's a toss-up i just don't like beauty and the beast when he ends up like a little blonde lacrosse twink when he was a hot bird a strong man with a good jawline and beard and a broad shoulder i want to climb that beast wait remember when i didn't know who benson boone was which is like so crazy it's not bunce that's not his name what's his name benson benson what i say bunson burner whatever you said bunson boone now he's all over my for you page wait you knew who he was though once i saw him then i said oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so i do i now i know him now i can put a face when the man flips everyone's making fun of him but i was like loki you would too if you could 100 any talent that i have discovered i've told people about it like i have no talent i have no hidden talent that like someone hasn't had a conversation about even if i'm not good at that talent i've talked about it to someone saying i could get good at this and in the entertainment industry you never know when you have to like come up with shit yeah we're we're just puppets you know people are like what can you do to entertain hannah two hours ago literally someone said to me can't believe you don't know how to play chess you're so competitive you'd be so good at chess the first thought in my brain was what if i'm so good at chess that that's my new career that i have to go and just compete in chess tournaments and you've been hanging out with me too long yeah like i really because i just because i just thought that i'm like wait what if i'm amazing at it you know like there's no talent i have that like i'm not telling the people actually my dad taught me chess but he only taught me like one good move in the beginning so if if they let me do the good move i was i would win in like five what's it turns or something but if i couldn't do that first move then i like lost but you know I was in I was in chess tournaments in middle school what no my dad put me in every competition possible wait why have you never talked about that because I wasn't we've had full pods about chess and you've never once mentioned that you've played in tournaments I did have a tournament phase and then I guess um I don't think the results were like where my dad wanted so it like fizzled out but like I did have potential you collectively have agreed not to talk about it yeah we don't talk about it it was a good now that i think about i think i won one and we got really excited and then but also look i was too hyper for chess you two are like at family functions you're like don't bring it up that year it doesn't look good on the resume but they're like where were you doing these two years from 2002 to 2006 don't remember hannah i'm gonna learn so we can play we we'd be so cute like playing in union square park with like all the old guys well you want to know what i just want to get like a really nice like class chess set like there's two things i want in my home as an adult i want like a really nice expensive glass chess set that people come over and they're like holy shit that's a nice chess set but then you when you get kids they'll break it and you'll be like that's my chess set i'll be like don't touch it and i want a baby grand piano in my home like i want you to baby grand piano that seems like an oxymoron i want you to walk in and there be a baby like a grand piano but a baby grand piano is like a little smaller and i want it to be i think i want it to be white oh you want it because you want to be cute yeah i want to be adorable you want a teacup grand piano like a teacup chihuahua in both things i don't know how to play or use and i want to learn so if there was a dinner party and like one person knew how to play would you like them to start playing while everyone was like drinking their champagne yes which is very different than a man pulling out a guitar a woman sitting down at a grand a baby grand yeah that's gorgeous that's like a harp sorry that's like educated you love a harp you love a harp when they brought the harp out in church i love a harp at a wedding not not enough people are doing harps at their wedding not enough people are doing harps at the wedding because yeah that shit gets me hyped too i'm pumped up when the harp comes i start crying the second a harp comes out i love that's talking to the angels not to be confused with a well i can't even think of it so never mind there is a harmonica harmonica something that is also standing that is similar to a harp oh but not a harp an oboe something of that family something of that nature also i haven't brought up my grandpa in like four episodes so i'm allowed to right now um he used to play the harmonica which is like iconic like not really but like it was around the house he's a fun guy every little tidbit i learn i it's it gets even better it gets even better just like to know that there's a man that would pull out a harmonica from his pocket at any moment and i actually looking back i don't think he was good i think he just had the belief in himself and that's where we get it from and i was gonna say and i feel like that and we can learn from by that trait is strong that trait is real that trait is generational i would say um i'm proud of myself because this weekend i can't wait to hear what you're gonna say actually no it wasn't the weekend i got invited to go to a workout class with people like i didn't really know okay and you know everything every cell in my body i was like don't do it like it should be relaxing like it's a summer what kind of workout class like i wasn't worried about the workout because i have been like working out more it was more so my social anxiety with my smile especially right now but i feel like the people know the people do know but not everybody some people are like what's going on over there what's going on so i decided to go i went all the way to watermel which is a drive you didn't drive though no god no i'm actually not allowed i asked des i was like should i drive and he was like probably not wait when's the last time you drove i drive around short distances yeah like a lot but like if there's not even a if there's a little highway involved i'm like we're not that's crazy it's so crazy i've never been in a car with you driving maybe one day but like have you ever been in a car with me driving yeah you drove me out yeah yeah yeah but i mean you've been in a car with me driving a lot actually yeah you drove like a huge car anyway yeah so i got to work out because ali brunson jaylen brunson so she's a doctor by the way she's a doctor and she does like physical therapy like she studied shit wait i didn't know she was a doctor that's Dr.

43:07Allie Brunson by the way first lady of New York so my thing is I'm an insane Knicks fan so everything was scaring me but I was like I have to see Allie Brunson because she likes Giggly Squad she knows me and I love to support women in the arts so she does this workout that helps women I mean all women but especially women after pregnancy like okay like get the muscles that might have weakened like stronger again because people don't really focus on that in your average class um but i got there and also shannon phillips was there who's josh hart's wife and i just wanted to thank them for like the next winning and they were like we can't take full credit and i was like yes you can yeah but everything starts in the home

43:57Hannah Berner: everything starts that's exactly let's remember that everything stems from the home and they're both mothers on top of it and then i was like so am i this week yeah you're like isn't it just so tough balancing work and life no i was like i left the kids at home this morning so i could work out and you're like my heart breaks but also like i have to do something for me if mommy feels good kids feel good they're like what when did you have kids no i was like i have two and they're exhausting but it's beautiful

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48:30Hannah Berner: You know what I'm sick of? What? Like not living next door to you. No. Like here's the thing. I mean we talk so much about like starting a family and like what to look out for red flags. Like when you're dating and like who do you pick to marry and all this stuff. And like we're not talking about how do you finagle living next to your best friend because life would just be so like I genuinely feel that married couples would get in less fights. Yeah. If the women had their friends next door. Also, how do you feel about best friends getting involved in a post fight discussion? Get involved, babe, because I need backup.

49:14Get involved. like i've been around we're like it's the fight the heat is over but you're like now that we can step back for a second let's get hana involved who was actually in the wrong here dare i argue

49:27Hannah Berner: that people get their siblings involved what's the difference if anything i think getting your friend involved post fight is better than a sibling because i think siblings are too biased yeah friend is like i've got no skin in the game friend i love you know i love calling your ass out yeah i'll be like page that was crazy however if you can't say it to me who can wait can i say one of my favorite memories with you yeah when you were getting in a fight with a boyfriend yeah and we were in a hotel and you texted me and said your points are valid no like i started hearing it and then i realized if i put my ear up to the wall I could like hear everything and then I realized babe she needs backup because she's getting gaslit right now I start texting her I said no you're 100 % right on that stay hold your hold your ground hold your ground there's obviously always a moment when I'm fighting with someone where I think internally am I going too hard because I can go too hard and not realize it I did say and that one was and that one was low I could start to backtrack and say you know what maybe I am being too judgmental to this man imagine during a fight you could have your friend in your ear like listening from another room that's the espn i want to watch because sometimes i need to go to my own corner get a drink of water a couple words of affirmation and then get back in there wait is this the new vh1 dating show where you get a couple who's in a fight his friends are in his room your friends are in their room we're listening in we're tapping in we're giving good advice so it's literally like you got everyone but i feel like this is the new version of mtv the challenge no i'm just like i think that like we are not putting enough focus on as a society on living next door to our friends like we all we all talk about like getting jobs and moving from our hometown and having kids fine do all that i need to be in the same vicinity as my friend well ever since the wi-fi debacle two weeks ago it's giving the universe is telling us we need to physically be in the same place like hano don't you wish i could come over today for lunch eat chicken salad and then go back to my own house and have a cry i'll cry also the amount of times i talk about you to lois is like i'm literally like i'm embarrassed and then i took a photo of lois with the flowers and she literally goes send a page walks away send a page it was so cute what were we talking about before this because i was literally gonna say something and i have no fucking clue i've lost my train of thought eight times it was before i said we were gonna live next door to each other you were like starting a real story i feel like oh i was talking about the work my workout class what kind of workout was it like pilates a hit it was like a mat pilates type class which was fun but nothing bonds a bunch of women more than a hard workout class when you could look over to the girl next to you and be like oh that was a tough one you know what i love when they say in workout classes and like it's i think it's so much just so good whenever they say you chose to be in this workout class and you accomplished something and other people are at home and they didn't like i love feeling better better than people yeah i love when they're a little mean yeah i'm like you got me in a vulnerable position hurt me yeah also like you know like when people like try to insult you and they're like they think that they're better than you or like you think you're better than yeah there are people in the world that i think i'm better than like murderers pedophiles your average male there are some people though that hate you though because they think you think you're better than them but you actually aren't thinking about them at all no yeah no it's yeah it's you know you think you i'm better than you i never thought about it i actually i don't think can i actually add a phrase i want to i want us to say more and this is a very long island new york phrase yeah i love when you're talking to someone and this is one of those things that never needs to be in the beginning of a sentence but they just put it for a little je ne sais quoi they go not for nothing yeah we only want your life to get better for nothing it's gonna be words of wisdom after or the best tea you've ever heard not for nothing she did cheat on her husband you're like and when you think about What the fuck does not for nothing even mean?

53:58How did we get here? But when someone says it, you know what they mean. Like, you know exactly. Not for nothing.

54:05Hannah Berner: And not for nothing. Yeah. They're about to say, like, what does that really mean? Not for nothing. And not for nothing. I heard he was embezzling. And it's like. Not for nothing. Not for nothing. And you have. You can't say not for nothing. It's not for nothing. And it's always like an add on to the story. Yes. Yeah. it's after the point was made it's never like the main theme it's just like hey we just talked about how shitty this person is let me add one more thing yeah and not for nothing she's not a gal's gal yeah no that's a hannah that's a phenomenal saying and it's always like an older man or woman and then just says the most out of pocket thing that you're like not expecting and that's the best can i say something about cheating yeah so i saw a video i actually really liked that a man made i just have to say it out loud just because i was ashamed yeah but it was true but we do have to give them credit where credit's due or credits do we do we have to stay clear-minded he um basically was like with my significant other like i don't just love them i like them yeah and i'm not cheating on my homie like i'm not cheating on my best friend i'm not two timing my bestie and it seems like i'm not cheating on my home slice yeah like that like you cheat on someone you love but you don't like but when you like someone you're like that's my brah i think if you love someone you don't you're not even like grappling with the fact of cheating because you're like no why would i cheat on this person that i love well i think love it can be complicated because there's so many different types of love there's like in theory i love them i love the idea of them i love what we've created together but when you like someone you're like that's my biffle like i'm not gonna lie to my best friend that'd be crazy i'm talking to them every day why would i how am i gonna lie to them like and that's so true like make sure if you actually like the person you're not you're not too time not for nothing yeah you're gonna stay with them and you're gonna be there for them you're gonna go like have inside jokes with someone else like that's disrespectful no like that's what they mean by marry your best friend like you're not gonna i feel like some people do have you get trust issues when you've been hurt in the past but that wasn't your best friend right that wasn't your homie that wasn't your ride or die yeah that was someone you like hey gray was really into but that wasn't your that wasn't your bestie like i would never cheat on you could you imagine i've never cheat on you maybe with a blonde i that would be just kidding that was so fucked up that was so i'm sorry i'd be like nothing we had was real you have no allegiance to anything get out take your cds get out um are you gonna I see the Odyssey.

57:07Okay. Because the men are talking about it.

57:09Hannah Berner: No, I know. Is it like eight hours? Like how long is this movie? Everyone's talking about it. It's three hours. I feel like every movie is three hours though. Like even rom-coms nowadays. Also, I was like watching something on Netflix and I was like, in no situation does this need to be in two hours. Like get a grip. Well, that's what Des says about documentaries. Like it starts with what happened and then it goes into little details about every single person who's ever met that person's life but i'm not for nothing i love it not for nothing there's a new documentary on jordan belfort it's on paramount i'd watched it the other night is it good it is pretty good documentary you didn't text me i know sorry that's cheating that's sorry you just said you wouldn't cheat on me joe wanted to watch it he put it on wow i know i was gonna tell you i'm telling you right now this is what i was going to tell you on the friday pod okay it was three episodes it is pretty good except i wish they had the ex-wife get interviewed they just used like her podcast clips which i love that for her promote the pod girl yeah she's um they really nailed it with margot robbie for her i mean they look what do they call her the the something bayridge yeah um the whole i actually thought it was really funny because the whole time they're like the movie was nothing like it was like in real life and then every talking head was like that part actually was accurate yeah they're like it wasn't the same at all that yeah that one what did happen and it's like the most outlandish things you're like that part was accurate yeah um it is a pretty good documentary it's every guy who's like under five five and has like a napoleon complex could have been jordan belfort so it's like oh yeah he just like got annoyed that it was hard for him to get girls in high school i mean is that every man's villain origin story there's two types of guys they go either to serial killing red pill podcasts or they just like are a narcissist and like why they think they're better than everyone yeah and people that they're not better than no jordan seems like a real just like classic did leo do a good job portraying him do you think yeah because yes because obvious it's a hollywood movie you want people to like your main character yeah i think leo did a great job i think the movie was phenomenal for hollywood yes like they may they took these random stories and they hollywood eyes to them and i think they did a great job and i think leo portrayed the character he was supposed to obviously like the like the real people in it they scammed so many people so like that movie doesn't touch on like the lives they really did ruin including like some of their own like a lot of them are felons and a lot of them weren't even real stockbrokers like they never actually took their like series seven test so there's a lot of like more real life stuff but a lot of the fucked up stuff in the movie is real and kim kardashian can't get a law degree yeah well they were sending people in to like fake take their series seven tests which i was like honestly when i took my sats if you think it didn't run through my mind how i could cheat you're crazy well i think really rich people who want their kid to go to princeton like as we've seen find out ways to get around it i was watching friends and neighbors season one which is really fucking good shout out to john ham a friend of the pod it's really good that first season yeah it is and he like it just shows like how all these rich people scam the system to make sure they keep their wealth and they keep their status and then even above all the other joneses that they're competing with um so yeah corruptions everywhere and thank you guys for giggling thank you for getting with us check out our merch we love you so much oh wait should i get i'll let me just get lois to say hi to giggly squad hi princess lois hi how are you today good i love your dress that is so pretty did you help style me all week yeah did you like hannah's outfits yeah how do you choose your outfits i didn't do it she just you just do it you just know what's your favorite color yellow and pink yellow and pink yes pink is my favorite color too it has to stay your favorite color forever do you like my outfit right now no

1:02:09Hannah Berner: brutally honest angel lois do you like my my purple or like my pink shirt yeah thank you do you remember when you were princess page yesterday you pretended you were page I love it I need to come over and play with you soon Lois We'll play dress up Do you want to say bye Giggly Squad? Say it louder Thank you get out of here Perfect Love you Go watch Stuart I think she said bye bye poopy head Okay see ya

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