In short
How Amazon tries to “operate like the world’s largest startup” by focusing on customer problems, building teams, ownership mindset, and organizational speed.
Guest backgrounds
No guest names or bios appear in the provided transcript; it’s a CEO-style interview with an Amazon leader.
Key claims
Amazon must avoid building for technology’s sake and instead solve real customer problems; it needs “builders” who dissect customer experiences and rebuild them; it requires “owners” who act as if resources are their own, supported by flatter organizational structures; speed is a leadership decision, requiring removal of barriers and alignment to move fast even with mistakes.
Notable examples
Mentions “dissect a customer experience,” “rebuild it,” and “knock all those barriers out,” but no specific product/customer case studies are included.
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0:04 to 0:27
Explore how Amazon strives to operate like a startup despite its size.
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Amazon's Startup Mentality
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Explore how Amazon strives to operate like a startup despite its size.
“You've said that you want Amazon to operate like a startup, like a very large startup.”
Transcript
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1:15Whatever we build, whatever we spend resource on, we have to make sure we're solving a real customer problem. Technology companies in particular fall in love with the technology, but they get to the end and they haven't really solved anything remarkable. And so you have to be – startups are missionary about trying to solve problems for customers. And that's what we've got to make sure we've spent our time on. And then we need a lot of builders, disproportionately so, people that like to invent, people that like to dissect a customer experience and figure out what's wrong with it, even if it's pretty good, and then rebuild it.
1:47And then, you know, you need owners if you're going to be a startup. You need people to think about what would I do if this were my money? What would I do if I owned all the resources? You need people who really feel accountable. It's part of what our effort in trying to flatten our organizations is about is we want the people doing the work to think like owners. And then you really need speed. Speed disproportionately matters in every business at every time. Speed is a leadership decision. You can decide you want to move fast, but you have to kind of figure out what's slowing you down and knock all those barriers out.
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From the publisher
How Amazon Uses Startup Thinking to Stay Fast and Focused
10 Jul 2025
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What does it take to run one of the world’s most innovative companies in 2025?
Amazon CEO Andy Jassy sat down with Adi Ignatius, HBR Editor at Large and co-host of IdeaCast, to discuss his strategy and why Amazon’s approach to AI is built to stand apart.
Listen to the full IdeaCast episode here: https://s.hbr.org/43q4I0O
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