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0:35Hi, my name's Alistair Green. Are you going to say your name or just have a massive pause? Oh God, that was revile. My name's Rachel, yeah, Stomics. It's a podcast that we make. It's called Don't Think So Somehow. And all we do is bicker. It's largely pointless. we don't really get on or even enjoy doing it. I got ID'd for alcohol the other day. You're joking. Yeah, in Leeds. That's mad. It's like ID and Judi Dench. This might just be a podcast for you. Don't think so somehow. Every time I get a message saying, I'm loving the new podcast, I'm like, why? Why? Oh, dear. I just keep thinking about that thing.

1:20I think I've mentioned it. I talk to Claire about it all the time. The difference between men and women. Oh, yeah. Women will be like, oh, I've obviously got an intolerance to this or I can't really have dairy or wheat, whereas men just spend the rest of their lives having diarrhea wondering what the fuck's going on. Yeah, I'm sure that's right. All right, back again. So we are back. I'm feeling a lot lighter than I did last episode. So last episode, you were waiting for a shit to arrive, basically. Yeah. You'd had some laxatives the night before. Don't get me wrong, I know I was playing with fire.

2:01Yeah, but I mean, I understand that it was supposed to happen at 6am. It didn't. Yeah. That would have been me golden then. Yeah. But it was good, and it arrived more or less as I was doing my fact, which I actually take as a compliment. I think it was like the fact was so interesting. I'm glad you might take it as an insult. No, no, no. I think it was almost like it brought on labour. Right. So in that sense, it was a potent fact. It worked. It worked. The fact worked. How are you, JT? I'm all right. So I've been on holiday. Yeah. Went to Spain. I'd say if anything, slightly cooler than England.

2:45Is it something to do with... There's something going on in there. We're in Ireland. I think that London is... It's totally not. Oh, well. So I was getting criticised last episode just because I had a tablet that kept on going off all the time. You saw it there? Yeah, what it was doing, it was reminding me that I had a podcast record. So, brilliant. Yeah? The machines haven't won yet, have they? Yeah? Ridiculous. PC gone mad, isn't it? It's health and safety gone mad. Mac gone mad they'll be telling us they'll be telling us what to do soon you've got a podcast called Joe so you went you had a little holiday yeah is it but the heat is hotter like it's a higher temperature but it doesn't feel as hot as it does in the UK I think it really helped to be by the sea and also to be on holiday I mean obviously your routine is very different I mean London is not a good place for it to be hot like you are going descending down into the underground i don't mean to be dramatic but you do descend down i've had like you're going into hell i've had the i've had things come up on instagram recently actually the old algorithm is just chucking stuff up up at me um it'll be like someone who lives in london that's originally from pakistan or india or something like that yeah they're like i mean it's fucking hot in india but this is shit yeah i was just like i'm from india and i can't stand this yeah it is it is funny there was a there's a mountaineer I think it's for Edmund Hillary who'd climbed Everest and stuff and he said the only place he'd ever felt cold was in Cambridge do you think and it is indeed very cold there do you think he climbed mountains and stuff because of his name yes yes absolutely insecure yeah because obviously while he was at school and stuff they were like oh why don't you climb a hill they'd be like Hillary sit down yeah stop calling me Hillary yeah Yeah.

4:46So then he thought, well, I'm just going to have to... I'll show them. Yeah. I'll show all those girls. Yeah. That teased my name. Yeah. Imagine if you'd be called Edmund Celery. What would happen then? So I'd probably been a farmer. Or a fruit and vegetable. Yeah. Fruit and vegetable. Edmund Celery. Celery. You burn more calories saying Edmund Celery than you do actually eating it, don't you? I just thought of a comedy character. You do. Celery Clinton. Celery Clinton. Is it one of your games? Is it one of your games? You've got Games of Frowns. Games. Well, it's got Beating Around the Bush. Beating Around the Bush or Top Trumps.

5:23Top Trumps, yeah. They're both the same game, but different presidents. Celery Clinton. Celery Clinton. Very American politics heavy, my games. How does Celery Clinton work? Well, you have to. Someone's trying to. I think it's a car game of some sort. And when a certain hand is produced, you go, Celery Clinton. Maybe. Or someone's trying to check your emails to see if you've done anything nefarious. And you have a bowl of celery. And you need to eat all the celery before they can hack into your email account. And then you can go, no. No. I finished the celery. Yeah. And then you go, Celery Clinton.

6:10Yeah. Yeah. both good ideas cheap as chimps cheap as chimps how much does it cost to how much does it cost to keep a chimp yeah turns out it's not turns out it's quite expensive so it's not cheap as chimps how many bananas do they eat a day so only one yeah because they only get one it depends how many bananas they're given you'd probably eat 12 oranges a bit of lettuce two bananas and a piece of potato you idiot what happens if you eat raw potato it's just not very good for you I don't think would you get sick yeah if you ate loads yeah really it looks like something you should be able to eat raw you probably can you might find it hard to digest if I'm chopping raw potatoes you know i won't i won't switch board in order to to chop something like salad that seems excessive yeah but in theory i do think there's a bit potato juice on there but i'm a i'm a sort of i'm a pretty reckless uh you know live fast die young sort of guy so i just leave it bit of raw potato juice whatever it's the kind of stuff that machine gun kelly says yeah exactly try and impress me yeah should i should i should i wash the board down and just leave it just leave it just leave it oh god you're so dangerous yeah yeah look at that what's that to say why are you machine gun kelly are you some kind of drug dealer or gangster or something no i'm a pop star yeah i know well how are you were you saying you're really hard though what's the evidence of that um hello uh got tattoos on my neck mate yeah and my name is machine gun kelly Do you own a machine gun?

8:02I don't need to So how was your holiday, Joe? Yeah, how was your holiday? It was really fun, thank you How long? Just a week And I Yeah, really enjoyed it I love Spain People are really nice

8:24I used my one word of Spanish Do you know what it is? Gracias no la niña the niña my daughter so it means the the female child yeah and it's also the name of the opposite weather so el nino you know the weather system yeah that that just means the child there's a male child and then la niña is like the the one that's kind of el nino's son well i think it just means small child small like male child or female child basically right so when So we're in a restaurant, it's like for La Nina. La Nina. So that's good. For the little child, for the little girl. Little boy, little girl. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, I know hola and gracias like every English person.

9:12And that's it. It's a bit suspicious that your main bit of Spanish is little girl. Sure, yeah. Well, I know it because of the weather system. So you're not going to get me on that because I'm interested in weather. Right? I think it's a load of perverted meteorologists, mate. Yeah. Going on about El Nino. People are like, what's all this? What's this you've been Googling? They're like, no, no, it's a weather system. Yeah, yeah. Is it? Well, no, it's now. Yeah, just quickly changing the weather system. Why have you been searching up little boys in Spanish? Well, no, no, no. No, no, no, it's a weather system.

9:46It's about the Gulf Stream. Yeah. Yeah. A bit of weather, isn't it? Well, no, it's just weather. anyway um no i had a lovely time and uh i actually did go running i think three times well i don't like that but you're on holiday i know i loved it i know but i i it there was something about being there i thought if i lived here i think i'd get healthy yeah yeah because you're on the front and like you yeah and like everyone runs there like it's it's the only time where i eat well is when i'm on the continent italy spain everything's fresh everything's just kind of like you sat right next to the sea where it's just where that fish has just come from and it feels like it's a healthy culture i mean i'm sure it's one tiny place in the whole of saying but like like old people are out walking jogging yeah being active like like from young to old it's as though people are i've got that's a big thing in italy i think yeah is yeah sort of the elders are respected and yeah looked after and i love that i love the kind of the broader family like all the way up from the little babies right up to the old baby it's all like it's one it feels like again it's probably just me where was we this is probably a version of orientalism and we've been like oh it's so brilliant over there and not like here but like it um it does oh do you remember was we in you know it seems to ring true was we in in majorca there was one night i've got i've just had this really vague memory where we did have like some it looked like something out of the godfather or something like yeah we were in a on a cobbled street and all sat at tables and there was some...

11:44We were eating with some local people or something. Do you remember that at all? I think we got quite drunk. And I was saying to you things like we should do a documentary series about history. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. I remember talking about... I remember us being on tables and there was all this sort of paella and... Was it kind of everybody dining out? No, it was like a cast and crew thing. And it was a special thing that was done for us. God, wow. Yeah. Like the town. Gosh. We were really drunk. I remember that much. There was a lot of Elvino did flow. Yeah, Elvino did flow. I mean, I remember the conversation afterwards about history.

12:30Yeah. So was it in Palmer, the New Yorker? I think it was. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, I think so. or it might have been Malta because we went to Malta briefly. Yeah. I think it was in Malta. Right. Yeah. I think I, yeah. I think it was in Malta. Yeah, I think that might be right. I think we were there for like two days or something like that. Yes, I do remember that. Malta's fascinating. Malta has such a kind of, I'm reading a thing once where like, they it's got such a kind of kind of um muddling up of christianity and islam yeah that sometimes you can go to a mass like in in malta and the the bishop or whoever he is is like holding up this bread that's like the body of christ but he calls it allah right so it's like it's it's really like because that's like the word for God.

13:34Yeah. And then they've got, haven't they got a really interesting language that's sort of... Well, I know that it was Christian for a long, long time and it was like a fault island. Is that right? Am I right here? And it was Solomon the Great? It's got a really good natural harbour at Valletta and I think the British Navy used to like going there. But that was after... Yeah, I know what it was. I think it was... It was the Knights of St. John, wasn't it? It was that. Yeah. And they'd been there for years. They'd been there for like centuries or something like that. And it was probably one of those places that was like strategically important because it's in the Middle of the Mediterranean and like you can.

14:12And it was causing. In fact, it's near to Africa, isn't it? It's kind of, it's near, is it nearer to Africa than it is to. I don't know. It's near where I suppose Iran is and Iraq because it was, because it was Solomon who managed to finally defeat, laid siege on them. Yeah. Because that island was such a pain in the ass because it was really fucking with his ships and stuff like that. Oh, okay. Okay. So he needed to knock out the Christian knights on Malta. But again, in a very sort of fair way, like constantly saying, listen, this can go one or two ways. I feel like this about sort of sultans or Arabic and Muslim sort of emperors.

15:02I don't know what you'd call them. But they were always very sort of like, we're here. Yeah. Either we're going to give up or we're going to just fucking destroy everything. I think he gave... They weren't always... I think he gave people... They didn't immediately resort to violence. No. There was an opportunity to leave. And then once he did conquer Malta, this Solomon geezer, he gave him, I think he gave him like five years to leave or something like that. No rush. Get your shit together. Get all your affairs in order. Yeah. Got five years. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Seems quite level-headed, quite sort of.

15:44Yeah. What are we talking about, Lenny, mate? Yeah. Where are we going with this? Well, that's the question, isn't it, I suppose? destination destination Spain me being in Spain you being in Spain yeah yeah no really loved it and I mean because obviously it's incredibly hot in London so like last week or the week before last I was like why would I want to go somewhere that's hotter than London but actually first of all it wasn't really hotter secondly it is just where we were we're by the sea also Spain is used to being a bit hot so it feels like it's just sort of set up a bit more for heat. Yeah.

16:24I don't quite know what I mean by that, but it just feels like... Well, no, they have things like air conditioning and stuff like that. Yeah. And I suppose... Which I think we've now got to get on board with. Yeah. My house is so... Our house is crazy. It's so hot. It's crazy. They're built. The buildings in this country are built so that they keep heating. Yeah. So you don't have to spend so much money on heating. Yeah. You know, I've spent my whole life worrying about the heating. being warm enough. Now, sort of the last few years, it's like, oh, fucking hell, I wish I could get rid of some of this heat now.

16:59No, it's a bit of a... a bit of a... a bit of a worry. That'd be fine. What we need is a bit of air conditioning, and then we've got lovely climate, lovely and warm. Warm outside. If it gets too hot outside, just go and chill out indoors with the air conditioning. I know. I just worry about... Start growing fucking olives in your garden and stuff. I know. No, it's just that places really, yeah. What about the places that were hot to begin with? What are they going to end up like? That'll be all right. They won't remember. They won't. They won't remember. So, in conclusion, nice holiday, nice food, nice people.

17:38Thank you very much. That's all you need, isn't it? That's all you want. That's all you need, isn't it? Fly there, fly back. I haven't had a holiday in ages. I don't know when I'm going to go on holiday. Where would you go next? I'm thinking, well, I was thinking until I looked at the fucking price of, what's those islands in the Indian Ocean? Maldives. Maldives. I was thinking of the old Maldives. I've been there. My God, it's expensive. Yeah. I mean, also, hotel prices have gone completely doolally in like the last three or four years. Like it's, it's, we went to a hotel for one night while we were on a holiday because it was like, well, that's all we can afford.

18:20I mean, it's like, it's, it's honestly insane. And it's now the point where it's like, if I'm paying that much money for what is essentially a night's sleep, what, how fucking good has that night's sleep got to be? I mean, it's like, sleep can't be that good. I mean, I don't, I don't quite know what's happened, but it is. I really want to go to the Maldives. I've got a couple of friends that have been, say it's absolutely incredible. It's amazing. So I really want to go. And then I did look at the price. And I was a little bit thinking, like, I could afford me and Claire to go. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

18:54They're going to live longer, aren't they? I could. They're not doing, you know, dare I say, they're not doing the bucket list. Literally, taking the kids is twice as much. Yeah. It adds another 100 % to the bill. Can't they go to, you know, somewhere a bit closer and just tell them it's the Maldives? Well, and also they fucking, because my kids are not adults. No. If you looked at my children, you go, oh, they're children. Yeah. There's no way adults at all whatsoever. Yeah. But I was looking at sort of hotel prices and it was like, how many adults? How many children? Yeah. Under 12? Yeah, I know.

19:36I know. Both my kids are now over 12, but they're not adults. I wouldn't class them as adults. They're not going to eat the same as me. Yeah. Or they're not going to drink any alcohol or anything. Yes, and they're not legally allowed to earn any money until they're 16. So it is a little bit much, isn't it? If you have a person... I think they're allowed to earn money, by the way. I earned money when I was a kid. But it is... for the purposes of this argument, they're not, what you're saying is there is a... I had to pay tax on it. As a child. So there's a category of person who is independent upon adults.

20:16Oh, that's not true, actually. I didn't earn enough to pay tax on it. No, you wouldn't have had to... No, not unless you're... But... You did earn money. But I did... Well, I don't. If I'd have earned enough, I would have had to have paid tax on it. Well, I had a paper round, and that was before I was 16. Yeah. But then that was only because I couldn't work. I couldn't yet begin my glittering career in BHS. Right. Because you had to be 16. So there is a thing where like, you know, child labour is actually one of the things that the Victorians made illegal. They did, yeah. Because there was a sense that children shouldn't be going to work.

21:00And I agree with you. I think it's a bit much to say that an adult is now anyone over 12. Because, like, clearly, in terms of their ability to contribute to the holiday. And what do they think happens? Do they think that they suddenly start taking up more room in the hotel or something? My kids are tiny. Yeah. Me and Claire are tiny. We're a tiny family. You should just be classed as one. I shouldn't have to pay. Just book a room for one giant person and just, you'll be all right. Yeah, one big person. and you're going to have to make some sort of costume so that maybe... Oh, there'll be costumes.

21:39Yeah, there'll be like a giant suit. The boys can be one leg each. Yeah. You can do an arm. Yeah. Maybe Claire can be the head and the other arm. Claire wouldn't be able to be... She's got a tiny head. Okay, so you're the head. Yeah, that would look really freakish. She's going to have to do both arms then, which is weird because she's going to have to be feet out here. But, I mean, it'll work. I mean, just don't... I think you'll be fine. Or her body could be sideways. Yeah, okay. On top of the boy legs. Exactly. So her arms are one arm and her legs are the other arm. Her legs are the other arm, yeah.

22:10Her arms are one arm and legs are the other arm. And I'll sit on top of that. Yeah. And I'll be the head. Yeah, but you have to be all... The big giant head. Yeah. Should we... Is there anything there? I mean, I was really enjoying that, yeah. Full family costume.

22:34Let's do the old pod, sure, Joe. Because otherwise, Joe's child is going to be outside his house. Yeah, otherwise my three-year-old will just be on my doorstep. Welcome. And packages get nicked from where I live, so I don't want that to happen. Actually, it's not a package. No. welcome to joe and james fact up a podcast loosely about facts but it's more about the chats if you want to get in touch our email is hello at joe and james pod.com our whatsapp is 07822034330 you can follow us on socials at joe and james pod and you can watch all our episodes in full on youtube and apple podcasts just search for joe and james facts up now let's get fact up

23:25Hello, I'm Monica Reinagle, host of the Nutrition Diva podcast. Summer is here and with it, the hot and sticky weather. A morning working in the garden, or maybe on the golf course, can leave you more depleted than you realize. And plain water isn't always the most efficient way to restore the balance. That's where Liquid IV comes in. Its science-backed formula is clinically proven to hydrate faster than water alone. Whether you're exercising, playing outside, or simply surviving a summer heat wave, it's an easy way to stay hydrated. Shop now at liquidiv.com. Liquid IV, hydration that goes wherever life takes you.

24:00Hi, my name's Alistair Green. Are you going to say your name or just have a massive pause? Oh God, that was revile. My name's Rachel, yeah, Stubbings. It's a podcast that we make. It's called Don't Think So Somehow. And all we do is bicker. It's largely pointless. We don't really get on or even enjoy doing it. I got ID'd for alcohol the other day. You're joking. Yeah, in Leeds. That's mad. It's like ID and Judi Dench. This might just be a podcast for you. Don't think so somehow. Every time I get a message saying, I'm loving the new podcast, I'm like, why? Why? Oh, dear. Okay, so you've been sending in some fact-type stuff for us to discuss.

24:48Um, this is from Harriet by the FactUp WhatsApp. And she says, Hiya! I don't see how it's written. Boys and Queen Lily Mae, love the pod. I've got a bit of a weird one for you that I used to bring up on first dates. Right. Okay. Everyone has a dead body to body of water ratio. That's how she's just led off. That they are weirdly happy to swim in. E.g. if you're okay swimming in a paddling pool with a dead body, automatic psychopath. However, most people are okay swimming in the ocean, which is littered with more corpses than you or I can imagine. Okay, it's true. It's true. It's not the first thing I think of with the ocean, but I suppose that's her point.

25:28So where's your line? How much water does it take before you're willing to overlook the corpse situation? A lake, a reservoir, the channel. Is there a litres to cadaver equation you've subconsciously accepted? I like this. I asked this on a genuinely concerning number of first dates. and, against all odds, quite a few still ended in second base. I don't think that's against all odds at all. That's good chat. No, it is good chat. Yeah. That's interesting chat. That's elevated chat. Yeah. You know, you could talk about, oh, and where did you grow up and stuff like that. Or you could cut straight to, right, what's the largest volume of water you'd need to comfortably be in the same bit of water as a dead body?

26:12And it's interesting that there's a subconscious acceptance, which I suppose there is. I mean, I suppose it's probably, I mean, I think line of sight, probably. I would say if I can see a body, I'll probably get out. Yeah, me too. If I know that there is a dead body up the other end of a big lock and I can't actually see it. Yeah. Maybe I'd get in. Yeah. What do you think? Yeah, I think out of sight, out of mind. sort of thing. I'd maybe get it if I was a blind man and I got in a bath with a dead body and didn't know it was there. I don't think it'd bother me. You'd touch it though. What? If you were in a bath with a dead body.

26:52Yeah, I'd have to not touch it. Yeah. You'd touch it. You would, unless you got a massive bath. So when Harriet says that she's gone on second dates, is this like the prep for the second date? So she's like, we're going to go on another date. Well, no. Just, I'm ready to question. In terms of bodies of water, how big does it have to be for you to get in, even though there's a dead body in? She's like, okay, stay with me. and then I'll get back with the details of the second date. And then it's like, let Lake whatever, meet me here. Do you know there's... And it's been arranged thus. There's something like this, like millions of tons of gold that's dissolved in the ocean.

27:30And if you could find a way of separating it, those gold particles from the ocean, which would cost more money than what the gold is. Like you'd have all this gold. Like there's such an abundance of gold in the ocean but it's all very tiny. Can you actually look that up for me, Lily? Because I think it's like a ridiculous amount of gold that's in our oceans. In our oceans. Floating about in the oceans actually in... Yeah. Plastic as well. Yeah, there's a lot of that. A lot of that. There's a lot of that. Where else is it? In the fish. Yeah. In my testicles. A quick search. The number that comes floating at me is 20 million tons of gold.

28:1820 million tons of gold. Yeah. So actually the sea, in a sense, is absolutely minted, isn't it? It's fucking, yeah. Should it be considered the richest man on earth? It's not man, is it? You're saying it's woman.

28:34The sea is the richest woman on earth? Yeah. I suppose Mother Nature I suppose yeah we sometimes we sometimes tend to you know think of the Earth as whoever this person is is a person I think we can agree on that I think we can agree you call it a robot the ocean is a person the ocean's a person if you really think about it the ocean's a person yeah and not just a person a rich person I like to think of the Earth as a big head yeah that's Wilkington isn't it yeah he says we should not worry about the Earth because we should think of it as a head and all that's happening is that he's getting a bit bald he's getting a bit bald yeah treat the Earth like a head yeah absolutely amazing I mean so there's loads of gold it's a really good question I think my answer is probably obviously do I know I mean apart from the ocean I suppose you know yeah okay so there's probably dead bodies in the Mediterranean and that's essentially a big lake I know it's not quite a big lake but it's a sea isn't it but okay let's say a contained body The Caspian Sea.

29:36The Caspian Sea, right? That is contained. Yeah. Right. So there's probably a dead body in there. Yeah. Because of Russia. What about... And... What about... And... But he wasn't murdered. He just drove a thousand miles away from his home and then drowned himself in a lake. Yeah. He wasn't murdered. After he said... And it was weirdly just after he'd put that stuff on his blog. Yeah. He wasn't murdered. So there's probably dead bodies in the Caspian Sea. but would you swim in the Caspian Sea knowing that there are? You probably would. Yeah. You ever been around a dead body before? No. I have. When my nan passed away.

30:17What did it make you? I don't know. I remember she was just quite cold. Yeah. Yeah. Was that in like hospital? I think it was in her living room. She was choking. She was choking for ages. I thought she was just winding me up. no I'm joking I think I've repressed that memory a little bit I can't remember 100 % where I am I know that she went home she was in hospital for a while and was like oh might as well just send her home and she had for a bit for about a week or so she had one of those hospital beds in the living room yeah but I wouldn't get in the sea with her after that no

31:05Would you get in a lake with a day? That's the question. I think it's line of sight. That's what it is. Do you reckon? So if I can't see it. I think even if I saw one on the horizon, if I'm in the sea, if I'm near the coast, I wouldn't want to be. I think I'd freak out if I saw one and I was in the middle of the ocean. Because there's lots of stuff going on there that would freak me out. I don't really like the sea. I always feel like something's touching me anyway. Well, it's a bit rich, isn't it? It's got that... Seaweed freaks me out and stuff. Seaweed is not that fun. No. No. I do like the sea.

31:55That's a good one, though. I appreciate that, Harriet. That's really good chat. I imagine you have quite successful dates. You sound like an interesting person. We do need to do fact check, Joe. Yes. This is where someone in desperate need of having their facts validated comes to us. Or quashed. Or quashed, yeah. Well, they just want closure. Exactly. They just want to know where is the body. They just want a body to bury. Yeah. That's all they want. Well, this is where... And again, I'd say, if you are a serial killer and you are in prison, just say where the bodies are. Okay, carry on. Absolutely.

32:39So we're going to read a fact or a question that someone has written in that would like us to get to the bottom of. And then we're going to have a good old think during the break and we'll come back and let you know how true it feels to us and to decide if it passes our fact check. Okay, so this week's fact check comes from Cameron in Melbourne, who filled in our fact-up form. Let's say, is it Melbourne? Melbourne. Melbourne. Yeah. Yeah, Melbourne. We've been there. Yeah. We had a lovely little lunch there, didn't we, by the river? No, that was Brisbane. Yes. Brisbane's was very nice. We went all over.

33:11We went to Melbourne as well. We went to Melbourne as well, yeah. I'd say like... Melbourne's closer to Sydney than Brisbane, right? Yeah, but Brisbane is in Queensland. Yeah. Queensland? Queensland. I never know. I think you're worrying about this now. No, I've never. Do you say Spiderman? No, the land ones have really got in my head and I've never quite got it back. It's like I used to, you know when a footballer loses form and he never quite gets it back? Queensland. I've got like that with the lands. Yeah, maybe they say Queensland. I know it's England. Is it? England. I know it's England.

33:46But some of them. Anyway, I'm also from, there's an area of Chelmsford called Melbourne. Right. And there's the Chelmsford's only tower block is the Melbourne tower block. Is that where? But I think the Australian Melbourne. Didn't there used to be a man-made beach? What, on the top of it? In Melbourne. Australia? No. London? Chelmsford!

34:12Didn't there used to be a man-made beach there? I feel like I went there as a kid. In Melbourne. Melbourne. Yeah. Is it near a river? They might have got a man-made beach. I mean, there might have some sand. I feel like there was a man-made... Lily, mate. You mean they put some sand there? I feel like I went there as a kid and bought an inflatable boat.

34:40I'm not seeing anything, initially. Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere else. Let us know in the comments. Yeah. Yeah. I mean... If you're listening. Anyone? Hello? Is this thing on? I said, is there a man-made beach in Melbourne? In Chelmsford? Hello? Hello? That's not the message they send into space to see if there's intelligent life. Just send something they can't resist. Okay, here we go. Right. Do any life out there? Is there a man-made beach? in Melbourne. Cameron in Melbourne, who's filled in our fact-out form, said, Hi, Joe and James. I'm a Brit living in Australia, and I wanted to check the long-time fact that if I were to start digging from Australia downwards, I'd eventually find myself digging out to somewhere in the UK.

35:34Good question. Wanted to confirm before I started digging. Yeah. Very sensible. Plan to fail. Was it? Plan to fail. Prepare? Yeah, not my words. The words of Roy Keane. Right. Okay. Big baby. People just say there's a big pair of tits. We're going to get on the case and we'll be back with a fact stat.

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36:35Hi, my name's Alice de Green. Are you going to say your name or just have a massive pause? Oh God, that was revile. My name's Rachel, yeah, Stomachs. It's a podcast that we make. It's called Don't Think So Somehow. And all we do is bicker. It's largely pointless. We don't really get on or even enjoy doing it. I got ID'd for alcohol the other day. You're joking. Yeah, in Leeds. That's mad. It's like ID and Judi Dench. This might just be a podcast for you. Don't Think So Somehow. Every time I get a message saying I'm loving the new podcast, I'm like, why? Why?

37:19Right Right here we go I actually know the answer to this question The smile on your face is lovely to see Welcome back to Joe and James Fact Up And we were just fact checking on behalf of Cameron Who wanted to know can you dig to England from Australia And I know the answer I absolutely know the answer Can I ask do you know the answer from bitter experience No I know the answer No, I think it's the Russians that have managed to dig deeper than anyone else has done. Yeah. I think they did it in Siberia or something like that. But they kept going. I think it was just an experiment to see what they could do.

37:59There's not very much to do in Siberia, to be fair. No. It was probably just a Christmas activity. But it got to a point where the machines just kept... They got as far as they could and the machines just kept breaking. It was just too either tough or things would overheat and buckle and whatnot. I think it's about 20 miles. I'm going to go, right? I'm going to say this number, 26 kilometers. For some reason, that number's flashed up in my head. How long? I'm trying to look at. What's the deepest hole ever been dug? It's a cool experiment. I think that sounds, now that I think about it, that sounds like a lot.

38:42Just now you said that, though, I was once on holiday with my brothers and we dug a pretty deep hole in the beach. Yeah. You've seen those things where people dig holes in the beach and then the ocean just starts coming. Yeah. I am seeing 7.6 miles deep. Yeah, that's about 26 kilometres, isn't it? No, that sounds more realistic than 26 kilometres. It's about 10, 11, 12 kilometres. 12 kilometers It was Russia right They did it in Russia Yeah We don't rush it I mean Is this thing on? Hello Hello It's roughly 12 kilometers Right So to answer Cameron If you dug from Australia Trying to reach And go through the center In a straight line Through the center of the earth You come out of the Atlantic oh I see okay you miss you miss the UK okay you don't hit you wouldn't hit any land okay so and then it would all the Atlantic would then just all leak into so even if you could do it and you weren't rushing and yeah you'd really clear your diary yeah you um and you could get through the core and everything because there's a molten core we I think we forget about that that's a bit like unbelievable isn't it we're like we just we just don't think that there's this there's a bloody core of molten iron in the middle of this baby and we we just behave as though we sort of behave as though there isn't one there can i shock you go on um i do think about the core do you because if that thing stops yeah yeah i know that's what happened to mars core solidified yeah just stopped because i think the course is what helps us turn and then when it if it dies out we'll be fucked because it's magnetic is it iron is magnetic isn't it yeah that's why we've got the poles that's right yeah and they're about to flip or something i don't know what that means they're gonna flip i've got so much half information the poles are due to flip the north and south poles are due to to change it was it half time A little bit.

40:59Yeah, they change ends. They literally change ends. They have lunch at least? I was just thinking, they're always Russian, aren't they? Because they always say, I must go. Hello?

41:14Hello?

41:17To all intelligent life that may exist. If this episode isn't called, hello?

41:27Oh. Okay. It seems like a lot of people are Googling, like, are they going to flip today or tomorrow? It could happen at any moment, yeah. It keeps telling me that it's not going to happen today or tomorrow. But it's June. I haven't Googled that. Wow. Okay. It says, A magnetic reversal takes up to 1 ,000, 10 ,000 years, during which the field weakens and wanders. the last flip was 780 ,000 years ago. Experts have apparently said we're not going to face any massive shift though. Right. It's just going to be a gradual thing. That seems weird as well. I don't know why I preoccupied my... Earth acts like a giant bar magnet powered by the swirling liquid iron in its outer core.

42:16Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and if we lose that, I think our atmosphere goes on something. I don't know why I concern myself with this stuff either. Quite fun though. It says the magnetic North Pole is currently racing towards Siberia at around 34 miles per year. Wow. So we've got that going on. Africa's splitting. A big chunk of Africa's splitting apart. We're either due an ice age or... I actually was told recently that we're coming to the end of an ice age. I hope we're not coming to the end because it is already hot. Yeah. But there's been plenty of times where we've not had any frozen poles in Earth's history.

43:08And it's survived. So there's a bit of hope. Gosh. It's terrifying, isn't it? Hello? It's terrifying. fine um but yeah there you go Cameron I had the answer for you I think and I was confident in the answer and I was correct and I don't I don't think that's ever happened before no and to confirm I will say yeah just oh you'd come out in the I mean this this podcast goes out a couple of weeks after we've recorded it so I hope you haven't fucking started and if you have started Cameron and you're listening to the podcast while you dig, stop. Stop now. Yes. Quit where I had. Yeah. Because you'll make a hole in the Atlantic.

43:48You'll flood Australia. Yeah. It's going to be a great big mess. A hell of a ride, though, as you went back through the tube on all the water. So that's that. What are we doing now? Ah, okay. Oh, brilliant. Joe Yes Do I need to Wrap Fact check up Well I was just We normally ask me To confirm But you felt very confident And I will say yes You are correct Yeah The only thing I was going to add Is So obviously If you come out One side You'd come out If you're going towards England It would be The Atlantic Ocean As you said But if it was the other way Around you'd become To the Pacific Ocean Yeah Okay So they just don't align Oceans either way Ocean the other side oceans either way that's it man law of averages you're bound to hit ocean yeah there's way more ocean than there's land and I suppose also it feels as though like almost all of the planning in both directions has just been entirely based on the phrase down under yeah which I suppose well they are sort of on the bottom of the planet yeah yeah but I suppose it's not literally Australia's like the sexy booty of the of the of Earth sure yeah yeah tan sexy tanned booty.

45:10Yeah. Be fit as well. Yeah. You wouldn't be like a saggy bottom at all. Be sporty. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Love it. Hello. It's time for my fact. Oh, okay. Should I wrap this? I feel like I've not wrapped up fact check enough. That's okay. We call Australia a sexy booty. I think that's wrapped up enough. Joe, it is time for my fact. Okay. I've decided that, well, I've not decided. We've all decided, us, the makers of this podcast and the listeners, that no one really gives a fuck about our facts. Well, I think there was less is more. Yeah, absolutely. Well, maybe just one is. So just a little thing for you and the listeners to think about.

45:59Yes. But here we go. We're all aware of Saturn, the planet. Yeah. what's the most special thing about Saturn? It's rings. It's rings, of course. Yes. Beautiful, majestic rings. Yeah. That are very, very thin, but very, very wide. You're quite right. So if you were to do it, what do you call it? When you sort of scale things up or down or whatever. If you were to scale it. So say the thing. Yeah, okay. Say you were to scale the thinness of the Saturn's rings to a CD, to a Blu-ray disc or something. Okay. Yeah. Cassette disc? Is that what they're called? I don't know. Is that what CD stands for?

46:46Compact disc. Compact disc. That's the one. Yeah, a compact disc. The compact disc would have to be like fucking 10 miles big. Oh, okay. Wow. That's how massive and thin Saturn's rings are. Are you checking up on that? No, no, no. I'm taking your factors. That's not my job right now. It might be a couple of miles. I don't know, actually.

47:13Imagine the interplanetary groove that's playing on that CD. Here's one for you. Neptune's got rings as well. I didn't know that until the last few years of my life, just gone by. Never hear about them, do you? No, never hear of the rings of Neptune. Very convenient. Very convenient. But how about this, Joe? Go on. There's an asteroid in our solar system that has its own rings. No way. Yeah, its orbit positions it between Saturn and Uranus. Burn! It's 250 kilometers wide, and it's big enough that it's just an orbiting asteroid in our solar system. And, you know, even at that. So, look. What's it called?

47:58Don't be thinking. don't assume that rings are out of your price range. That's really the message to different interplanetary bodies. Yes, we all look at Saturn and we think, oh, I'll never get rings. Yeah. No, if you budget wisely and you save up, you can afford a set of rings, even if you're only 250 kilometres wide and you're just an asteroid. The annoying thing is, is that I'm pretty sure I wrote down the name of this thing. It begins with a C. I think it's something like Caracas or something like that it's called. Okay. this asteroid, but it has its own rings. Well, look, it's good. I like to see it.

48:38It's aspirational. Jojo, I did look at a picture of it. It is good. It's got a very thin ring. Yeah. Whoa. That's nice. It's good. Yeah. What's it called? Yeah, good question. Check out the rings on that asteroid. Yeah, yeah. Look at that. I don't know how you say it, but it's spelt C-H-A-R-I-K-L-O. Caracol. Caracol. Caracol. Characol. But there, that's my little fact for you. That's really, really nice. Thank you very much, Characol. It's got a little number as well. I don't know if you want the number. It's got a number. Yeah, it's got a number. It's a number. It's a number. 101.99. What extension is it?

49:24101.99. Plus 56 for. services wasn't it yeah

49:33before we do wrap things up though Jo we've got an extra little message here from Jack by the fact up whatsapp who has remember we were talking about burying a sausage yeah which someone did then mention to me she was getting married and she was like I'm thinking about burying a sausage I feel like it's become quite in. Since we spoke about it? No, as an unnoticed. Yeah. But Jack, their message is titled Sausage Graveyard. Jack says, bury the sausage fact. I am a wedding photographer and last year I had a wedding venue tell me that they have had to ban burying the sausage rituals at their venue as too many brides were digging up areas of their wonderfully maintained lawns and flower beds.

50:23and also because the venue owner's dogs had too many upset stomachs from eating raw, mouldy sausages they kept digging up. Oh, it's PC gone mad again, hasn't it? Oh, goodness. I would say that this is our culture and that you should... I'd say be a bit sensible about where you'd bury it. Yeah. Why specifically the brides being blamed? I think it's the bride. Is it the bride who has to do it? I think so, yeah. She's not in the dress, is she? Not the night before, no. No, I wouldn't have thought so. Oh, yeah. Because I would just say, don't put the dress on after you burrow the sausage. Here's the thing.

51:07Or at least put an apron on or something. But I would say to wedding venues, make it a thing. Make a little fenced off plot. Sausage plot. Where you can go, oh, if you want to bury a sausage, by the way, you can do that the night before. You can come to, we've got a special dedicated area. And they can take pictures and stuff. And if you've been following our previous episodes, then you'll know that you can actually buy the sausage from Volkswagen if you want. Of course. And so you can... Little world up. Little world up fat. Do you think the flavour sausage would make a difference to the weather?

51:45Maybe. I wonder if anyone's tried different ones. Maybe. Maybe if you stuck a chorizo or something in there, it'd be a bit more hotter. I hate sausages with apple in them. People love making a fancy sausage. I know pork goes well with apple, but I feel like the apple just ruins my pleasure of the pork. What's your favourite sausage? I do. I love a nice Lincolnshire. I love a nice Cumberland. But my butcher that I get my sausages from does a really great – it's just called breakfast pork sausage. And it's just brilliant. I know what you mean about apple. I don't think it should be in with – apple sauce is nice and pork, but it maybe shouldn't be in with the meat.

52:35Also, it should be my choice. Yeah. Yeah. Don't sneak your apple in my sausage. Don't tell – yeah, you'll choose the condiment. Yeah. You don't put mustard in the sausage to you. I remember they do that a lot with I remember we used to go to fancy parties like Channel 4 would used to do do you remember those things, those gatherings that they do where they try and sort of basically they get like the head of marketing of Tesco's and they'd show clips of what's going on Channel 4 this year so maybe you should advertise on Channel 4 and it'd be like oh can we, it'd be really great if we could get some people off the television to sort of, you know, be involved and like say hello to people.

53:20Because apparently it gets them excited and they go, oh yeah, now we'll advertise. I used to think you are complete idiots if you think that us going around at a party is going to get advertised. Oh, you won't guess who's over there? Yeah. What? Just some not very impressive men. Yeah. It'd just be us four standing. Yeah. Talking to each other. If we're the best you've got, then you're not going to get any advertising. But I remember it happened to me twice at those parties where I wanted a glass of water. Someone came around with a tray and they're like, oh, would you like a glass of water? I go, yeah, I would like a glass of water.

53:55Thank you. Fucking elderflower or whatever they call it. I like elderflower. Oh. No, but not when you're not expecting it. Yeah, that's true. Or like when they put cucumber in it. Yeah. It was just a glass of water. It just looked like a glass of water and I was thirsty and I was like, oh, I'm going to neck this. Yeah. And it's like perfume in your mouth. And you're like, fuck's sake. Yeah. Now it's, and that's how you feel about the apples. And it's fair enough. What's your favorite sausage, Jeff, while we're on it? I just, I mean, I know this is a bit of a, just a good quality sausage. Yeah.

54:30Just, I mean, I think it's more about, you know, the. Absolutely, yeah. Just the quality of the meat. Do you prefer the like longer ones or the kind of like quite chunky? No, I don't really like chipolatas. I like the proper girth. I like to feel sausage in my mouth when I'm notching down on it. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you keep doing this, Joe? Just imagine. It's the thing I just, I have a sort of internet subculture that I like to signal to.

55:05I was merely imagining the girth of a sausage, your honour. I was kind of gentleman is a gentleman not at liberty any longer we fought a war that is pretty funny though isn't it the girth of man's sausage is his own private business yeah I mean I feel so for the dogs I mean just on dogs eating stuff my friend's dog ate a entire full nappy from their child so just dogs will eat fucking anything So if dogs are getting sick, then that, I mean, they've got pretty strong stomachs. Was that a full nappy? A shitty nappy. Like their child's shitted in nappy. The dog ate the entire thing. Dogs are not, they're not very dignified, are they, dogs?

55:56I mean, that is literally like, that is a tail between your legs moment. Yeah. What have you done? Nothing bad? Is it bad? I have to say yes. I have to say yes. My dog ate a sock. yeah they just yeah because um we're having dinner and we've got a domino's and um we're all around the dinner table and my kids took their socks off so they could relax at the dinner table yeah and one of them just dropped a piece of crust it landed on the sock and it sort of hooked into the sock and my dog was like i better fucking have this now i was gonna say don't eat that so my dog was straight on it took the swan like and was panic eating before we could say no drop that yeah so took the crust and the sock went down a couple of days later she threw it up and um honestly you could have put it in the wash they did throw it away but i was like i was like that's a full sock yeah come on back in the wash come on 90 degree wash you'll be all right yeah stick that back in people pay a lot of money for you know it's a a delicacy yeah I'm sure it is somewhere anyway well that I mean I'd just say that's pretty funny isn't it I bet they never there's some things that you probably never thought would be a problem when you set up a wedding venue and one of them would be buried sausages rotting buried sausages all over the place well fail to prepare prepare to fail prepare to fail that's what I was saying yeah good that I know he's a photographer.

57:32It's a little bit of sort of civilian journalism, investigative journalism. Good stuff. Well, I'm fact out, Joe. I'm pretty fact out as well. I'm pretty fact out. What have we learned today? We've learned that dogs are getting sick from brides burying sausages. We've learned there's an asteroid with rings. And we've also learned not to dig through Australia to try and come out the other side because you'll just end up in the Atlantic Ocean. So if you are doing it, bear slightly to the right. yeah try and banana round would it be right I don't know because it's all upside down and stuff isn't it you're going to have to banana round the core anyway so banana round banana round the core and you should be fine brilliant well we hope that you guys have also learnt something or at least had a nice time we'll be back next week armed with more facts chats and dig into ass weak it's not weak come on it's not weak Digging to ass, that's a fun niche reference to what happened.

58:33Digging to ass-stralia, you could. Hang on a second. It doesn't work. It doesn't rhyme. You referred to Australia as the booty, as the ass of the earth. I like it already. As a compliment. I already liked it. I just, I actually don't understand. How dare you? Just that it doesn't. Yeah. Ass is a very, I think that's the loosest. Yeah, we're going to have to go loose if we want diversity of rhyme. Okay. Okay. Otherwise, it's going to have to end with a T or an X. It's supposed to rhyme, isn't it? I don't put up on that. Facts, chats. And something that rhymes with chats. Loosely. It's a bit of fun.

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