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1:32i relive stuff in my head constantly i am constantly uh if i'm in a car and i'm in traffic and i'm on my own reciting lines from the in-betweeners out loud that i wished i'd done better that like when i read like and i'm going back 20 years and i'm like fucking why didn't i just do that why didn't i do why didn't i do it that way i did a play called 222 i did it around i did it the first time around and there was this line that i just i just couldn't get it right and i didn't understand it and then um and then i and then i finished my run and i kept thinking about that line and i spent a whole year going over it until i went fuck that's how i should have done it yeah that's it that's exactly it and then they asked me if i'd do it again yeah i'll do another run of it and i went yeah i'll do it i'll do it again because i've spent a whole year working out how to do how to do this one line that i kept thinking that i wasn't getting across correctly but i think like i just i don't man i don't well sometimes it's worth But I mean, I'm sure that you kind of benefited from all that thinking.

2:53So you must have. So that, yeah. So that thing that took me over a year to work out in my brain, people like Roger Federer, they do it in half a second. Yeah. They just sort of so clinical and they're just like, right, that was what went wrong. I need to do that. I need to do this. Yeah. And they're ready to carry on playing. Yeah. And I assume that's the same with business, business people and entrepreneurs and stuff like that. Because, you know, all those successful people have got an incredible story. All those Steve Jobs people and stuff like that. They've had to, they don't just make Apple.

3:29Or, you know, they don't just make Microsoft. There's a whole thing that they had to go through and setbacks and overcome. And they've all got this thing in them where they can. They can just overcome it. Like the in-betweeners, I got that job when I was 19. I don't particularly feel like I tried really hard to get that job I just auditioned, I just sort of did it If it was, I don't know, if I'd had more adversity in my life I think I would have, even the little adversity I've got in my life right now I'd still fucking crumble and become a mess I'm always amazed when people deal with adversity Like very young, I think that I mean, I think I'm probably better at dealing with adversity now But I feel like it's because I've had, I don't know, three decades worth of various sorts of adversity.

4:22I don't know. So it's almost like I've had one of every different sort of adversity. So now when something comes along, I'm like, oh, yeah, I recognize you. You're this sort of adversity. But I can't really imagine each one of those types of adversity when I've encountered it for the first time. I've been like, well, this is a disaster. There's nothing I can do. I can't possibly carry on. I mean, yeah, I think that's, yeah. It's weird. I think how to deal with fear is, when I was at school, I was really fearful of like the future and like genetic engineering and robots and stuff. Right. So my tactic was I'll just drop all science.

5:05I just won't learn any science. You carried it on as well, haven't you? Because you're terrified of AI. I was right. I was right. I don't know much about AI, but I know that it uses a lot of water. Is that right? Yeah, I think the machinery that they use for it, like big data centers, basically require a lot of cooling. Yeah. But I think it's because they say that that should reduce with time as the technology develops. But at the moment, there's big data centers that basically require a lot of cooling, which requires a lot of water. There's a lot of specifically fresh water, right? I'm not 100 % sure about that.

5:40Can't you salt water? I assume they can't because it will clog up the pipes. Yeah, clog up its pipes, clog up the tubes. This is coming from the position of knowledge. And then the robot will go, I don't know what's going on. I'm sort of torn now. I wouldn't say I'm, but I definitely. I can let you do that, Dave. Oh, yeah. That's a boring film, by the way. What is it? Is it the one with a car? No, that's Kit. oh right it was it how how sorry yeah no david's kit what's funny about i feel like with ai we we'd done all the philosophy about it before we had the stuff and now we've got the stuff we're like yeah the philosophies are sort of basically right we'll always do that when we yeah we'll always do that in the 90s there was lots of people worrying about technology even though technology couldn't actually do anything like war wars still happen even though we know they're all terrible yeah Yeah.

6:35Even though nobody really wants to go to war. No, but I mean more like Asimov had come up with this idea of the ethics of robotics in the 1950s, even though there weren't really any robots. But he was like, yeah, but when we do have them, we'll need some rules. So obviously the first rule would be a robot can't harm a human, right? Right? And you're like, yeah, I suppose that is basically correct, yeah. He's like, yeah, but there probably needs to be a rule before that, because you might need to have a rule where a robot could harm one human to save 100. and you're like, yeah, I suppose that's probably true.

7:06I mean, where are you getting this from? But there is a sense that it's as though we've been ready for it for so long. Yeah, but we're ready for everything. Anything, any bloody disaster. We're ready for anything. No, we – Yeah, no, yeah. I mean, we're aware. Oh, sure, yeah. Not ready, but we're aware of any disaster that could possibly happen. That's true, actually. You know, when you think about the Middle Ages and like fucking 100 years war and all those battles that were going on all around Europe and all this nonsense. We read about that stuff and we look back and go, God, fucking primitives.

7:41What a bunch of idiots. Still doing the same. Still doing the same stuff. And it's for all the exact same reasons. I know. Yeah. We just don't learn, do we? We don't really learn. No, it is true. Which is why we wanted to do this podcast. We're trying to finally teach people. We wanted to teach people. We're going to teach and then eventually we're going to set up a little community and you'll come and live with us and you give us money. Yeah. And we'll take most of it. And then we'll poison each other. Yeah, well, no. And head off to the spaceship. Our enemies will say we're poisoning each other, but actually we're just getting rid of these earthly bodies so that the bit of us that lives forever can go and live on our planet.

8:21Yeah. That we've found out about and that I've done a drawing of. We'll all have a little pet philanthropor. We'll have a little philanthropor for me. It's there. They're waiting for us. They miss us. They miss us like crazy. They do. And they're sending out their signals. They're reaching out through space. Have you seen that? If we could only listen. Listen. Do you remember early Louis Theroux, where he used to do weekends? And he did that one on the aliens. Yeah. And he went to that bloke and he was like, oh. Now receiving a message. Yeah, I think I do remember that. Stand by for message. You are killing the planet.

9:07I love all that. I want him to go back to that shit. I know. It's too fucking easy to find weirdos now is the problem. I found one. We're just here running the country.

9:20He's still got his thing loo through, but he's talking to people. He's talking to too many people that are aware. of him whereas um he needs to go back to do his do his stuff where he's just i know looking at the camera again yeah you're like he didn't even need to say stuff yeah he would just let them do things um so yeah he'd just be like and do you think there's any reason that the alien has chosen to just talk to you yeah it was really good i am he was so yeah he's got he's got such a special charm he's got such a charm because he would he could be like is there not a chance you think that you're just making this up yeah this is all bollocks yeah it's yeah even he even made an incredibly compelling documentary about michael jackson without getting anywhere near michael jackson he was trying really really hard to um he was fascinated with michael jackson and he followed him around on tour and he spoke to a load of fans michael jackson like super fans yeah spoke to his dad at some point spoke to some guy who was a magician that sort of was an orphan or something and was brought up by the jack or claimed to have been brought up by the jackson family it was all really weird really really fascinating really really interesting but he could not and he's and he spent the whole time trying to get in a room with michael jackson and then it was then it was like oh we've just got news um he speaks to yuri geller yeah and he's like um do you reckon you could get me in with michael jackson and he goes possibly we may be able to get you like win england win yuri geller what's he doing now where the fuck's yuri geller um what's It's Yuri Geller's job.

11:11He bends spoons. Yeah. He bends your mind. Watch as I bend this spoon. And then Yuri Geller goes, and then the news breaks that Jacko's decided to go with Bashir. Do you remember the big Martin Bashir thing with Michael Jackson? That was fucking amazing. Absolutely incredible. I'd love to rewatch that. I can't find it. Can't find it anywhere. And then Louis Theroux confronts Uri Geller saying, what happened? I thought you were going to get me the big scoop. And I hear now that Martin Bashir is spending the next few weeks with Michael Jackson and doing an in-depth documentary. And Uri Geller's like, well, you can be a bit sneaky.

12:04We were worried. We were worried. but Uri Geller had sorted out quite a fair description to be fair he is a little bit sneaky but Uri Geller was the person that brokered the deal between or had something to do with the deal between him and Bashir and obviously that documentary everyone watched that and was like what the fuck what is going on here that was where the whole thing came out where it was like oh I just sleep with the children there's nothing weird no you're being ignorant no we just sleep in the same bed We're all right. There's nothing going on. And Bashir's like, right, okay. Yeah.

12:41So that was bad PR for Jacko. Yeah, probably Michael Jackson shouldn't really have done an interview with anyone. And I think Uri Geller was like, yes, Michael Jackson isn't talking to me at the moment. He was like, because he was the sort of. It's very difficult to sell the idea that you just have got a best friend who's a child. In Uri Geller's. People are like, oh, just. What is it say again? I've just missed my best friend. It's just a child. Say it again This is my best friend's a child I can't It's just something I don't think your best friend can be a child In Uri Geller's defence He probably went with Bashir, he did the Diana stuff He's a bit more of a sort of He's a bit more of a Respected journalist Than Louis Theroux Who was a student with a camera basically So Uri Geller's gone I think you should go with Martin Bashir.

13:37Uri Geller, for Michael Jackson to then fall out of Uri Geller, I was like, oh, you stitched me up. I would have gone, I think you stitched yourself up, mate. Yeah. I don't think Bashir stitched you up there. Yeah. It's not, it's very difficult to think of who Michael Jackson could have been paired with that wouldn't have had the same outcome. Exactly. Who's this person who's supposed to interview him being like, oh, I love all this, all the stuff with the kids. It's great. Yeah, well done. There's a fascinating bit where Louis Theroux, I think he gives hands over like$5 ,000 of his own money or something like that to try and get an hour with, is it Randy Jackson?

14:17Who's his dad? Is that his dad's name? And it's like, oh, he was supposed to be, he turns up like six hours late or something like that. And they're like, oh, we've only got 20 minutes. And then it becomes very clear that this guy's just trying to talk to Louis Theroux about this girl band that he's trying to put together. Joseph. Of course. Yeah, Joseph. Joe. Those documentaries are amazing. The Louis Theroux weird weekend stuff. Before he. Yeah. Like even the stuff with. Who was that couple? That sense of you were getting a camera in a place where there'd never been a camera before.

15:02I remember a few weeks ago I was asking you about as people that are genuinely interested in British comedy the SNL UK thing and I've not I've not watched an episode because I've felt like I haven't had to because it really does live on the internet it really does get clipped up and lived on the internet I'll be honest with you it's been I think it's been great I've watched all of it and I loved it I think it's been great seeing that stuff and I think it works on the internet and it's sort of it's almost as if the show the actual show is a byproduct what they want is it for the stuff to go viral on TikTok and Instagram and it is and it's going well and uh it does I mean I genuinely sort of just love seen young people and they are young i i am i am on the other side now they're probably on tiktok of course they are they know exactly what they're doing they know what it is um but given a chance to do stuff and to and honestly it really a lot of the stuff that i've seen it reminds me of pete and dud and really bizarre quite bushy quite off the wall quite um and the and the you know i'll call them kids because they are to me they are to us you know yeah not age wise but yeah but in terms of like they're probably 20 years younger than us or something well also well one age wise yeah also also just because we we started out quite young and we're we're we're at the other end now yeah i genuinely think we could get a lifetime achievement award or something at the age of 40 or something like that because we because we yeah i think i like the other end I think I've probably pretty much, you know, finished.

17:00Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But I love, I do. It just, that SNL UK thing has made me feel really positive about young people coming into comedy and giving a chance and giving a chance to, you know, listen, not all the sketches work, but giving a chance to fail. Kids don't get that. Yeah, that's very true. The kids don't get – in whatever walk of life you're in, the kids don't get a chance to fuck up. Yeah. Even if you're doing something and you get a bit pissed on the night out, someone's recorded it on the phone, and your boss goes, oh, I saw this on the internet, you're fired. Yeah, yeah. You've got to make mistakes.

17:42You've got to be allowed to make mistakes. You know the phrase, practice makes perfect? Yeah. I never hear that anymore. I never – because I think it is literally because practice basically means failure yeah like if you hear a child practicing the piano what you're really listening to is a child failing to play the piano so practice really means failure and if you have a culture that is impatient with failure which i do think is the culture we have then it becomes very difficult to practice because practice is failure so it becomes difficult to improve so if you if you want a culture of improvement you need a culture that's embraces failure yeah so and i think yeah i agree with you it's really good to have like a big canvas on which is like because snl has obviously been in the states for ages yeah and so many people have come through that and i know i've watched films without even realizing that these are basically snl people who have cut their teeth doing this and loads of will ferrell Eddie Murphy Bill Murray Dan Aykroyd what you need is a regular slot you need regularity a place where you can perhaps just your craft basically Will Ortiz is that his name?

18:55yeah I don't know yeah I hope that this I hope that SNL UK becomes a becomes a sort of platform for these performers to be able to do something similar I mean the stuff like what kind of Irish is your granddad? George Four Acres is so funny It's fucking mental My grandad was Irish But it's such a bizarre observation That even I Had never thought about It's fucking I love it, I think it's great And Yeah I hope we're back to just sort of Fucking having fun again It's got a second series Because honestly I was like I don't think it's going to work I don't think we do things so differently over here than they do over there because they do it fucking all year or nine months out of the year or whatever it is.

19:49And I think they have a mid-season break or a couple of mid-season breaks in SNL in New York. But we don't do TV like that. We have a couple of people write stuff. we don't have a fucking boardroom full of 20 people that need to churn out 25 episodes yeah like the writer's room yeah very american that's not that's not how we do things here yeah so i was genuinely interested in in being like how the fuck does does that concept work and they did they did it they they sort of met in the middle where it was like oh we'll do six episodes we'll do six episodes it's live it's on television we'll do six episodes we'll have a guest come in we'll have music come in it'd be brilliant you know it'd be great fun they did the six episodes right great let's go again let's do another six episodes that works and i think i think that will work better and could potentially put snl uk in better stead than the snl in america because i'll be honest for you man 90 80 90 percent of the american snl is it is what it is that you got you got the the 10 20 of special stuff and i'll and i'll be honest i think getting through the 80 of stuff is worth getting to this getting to the special stuff yeah um but i think this way that they're doing it in the uk gives you a bit more time to let things breathe right we did six episodes we'll come they'll probably do 12 episodes a year if they keep, you know, every six months they'll do a move.

21:26You're thinking that maybe they're almost slightly doing too much in America, maybe, just because. Yeah, way too much. It's very difficult to keep up that level of output. It's been going since the 70s. That level of output. Yeah, it's impossible. No one could do it. No one could do that. Yeah. It's a miracle that, you know, that anything funny comes from SNL in America. Yeah. If something funny comes from SNL in America at this day and age, that they haven't already done. It's fucking well done. Good job. It's like podcasts, Joe. You should do six podcasts and then go away and think about it for a bit.

22:05What episode are we on? 37. With podcasts. You need to just get comfortable with the fact that there's not really, you are going to do the same stories. And if people have a go at that, like they're really being a bit rude anyway anyway episode 37 joe and james fact up should we do it let's do the podcast let's do it

22:34welcome to joe and james fact up each week we'll be bringing facts to one another that we deem interesting and our policy is the more interesting the more true it is we'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like to think are true but you don't want to research yourself in a segment that we call fact check are we doing that at the moment no but keep keep sending them in keep sending them in we need them um we'll get through them send us your facts our email is hello at joe and james pod dot com our whatsapp is 07822034330 and you can follow us on socials at joe and james pod and you can watch uh all our full episodes on youtube just search for just search for joe and james facts up i should probably say um so we we are still doing um fact checks in a weird way um but it's it's um we're in the middle of the world up 20 26 yeah so so if you have a fact at the moment we're doing sort of fact check but it's going to be included in a competition so if you think you've got a really good fact that me and joe are gonna let's face it spunk over um yeah then uh Then send it in because we want to hear it and it might get included in our competition.

23:43Last week we did octopus punching against Ewan McGregor's brother in the Air Force called OB2. OB2 has made it through that round. They were in the final. So keep your facts coming, please. Now, let's get Facts Up.

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26:08Right. So, I'm going to start straight away, James. Yes, sir. With something that Fred has sent in via the Fact Up form. Good old Fred. Good old Fred. And it's an honest name and it's an honest way to get in touch using the form. Probably just use a simple BIC biro. Yeah, went through the normal procedures. Yeah. He's jumped through the administrative hoops. Yeah. And now he gets his rich reward. And this is a business idea for me, actually. That's how it's been subtitled. That's right. It's a business idea for Joe. I can't wait to hear this. Yeah, okay. And so it says, not strictly a fact, but let's be honest, the format's gone well past that now.

26:59Fair enough, Fred. That's fair enough. I was once told the story of a man who brought his own small toll booth to the entrance of Bristol Zoo car park and began charging entry. The story goes he remained there. So as a kind of sort of like a little punch in Judy, but he's – Yeah, yeah. The story goes he remained there for years, earning millions in revenue. Repeat, millions. The scam was only discovered when a member of the zoo staff called the local council to highlight his absence. It's what to say, he's not there anymore. Yeah. They're like, where's the toll booth, guy? Yeah, where's the people who charge entry?

27:38And I suppose, well, I'm on this call. Where's all that money going? It doesn't mean he invested. By this time, he was long gone with the money. No idea if there's any truth to it, but I'd love to hear what you guys think. Great pod, guys. Genuinely does bring joy to me. Oh, that's nice. Thank you, Fred. Thanks, Fred. That's a great story. That's a really, really good story. I don't think it's true. There is a bloke. I mean, I don't know. These things do. Yeah. Yeah. You do hear things. So there was a bloke recently. I don't have any facts or figures that come to my brain. Maybe Lily May can help me out when I start talking here.

28:19But there was a bloke recently. There's some major roadworks going on somewhere in the country. Okay. That's right. That's the bit of information that would help us out a lot. Somewhere in the country. So he – Fact. There's a main road somewhere that is really, really disrupted. It's going to be disrupted for a while. So he has built like a dirt track through his farm and he's charging people to just skip the traffic and just go get straight onto another road. Okay. And he's charging a toll. How much is he? I don't know. This was literally like in the last couple of weeks, I remember reading about this in the newspaper.

29:01Is he going to reinvest any of the toll money in like getting the road tarmacked or like? Do you think he? Because that's the thing as well. It's a dirt track. so even I even I was looking at it going do you reckon he'll reinvest and you know and get some tarmac down and turn this into a sort of some sort of yeah bypass from what I can see I can see why you've made this link as well because it was what my research told me is that a guy called Mike Watts who was a businessman from Bath basically during a road closure between Bath and Bristol I did think it was in the West Country yeah he created a path and hired a crew to make a dirt and gravel path which cost him£150 ,000 and he charged people£2 to go across it to recoup the costs of doing it.

29:50Wow. And did he... I mean, he presumably must have done more than breakeven. Well, he actually said here, but this is like an AI summarized our consciousness necessarily, but he says apparently he lost around£15 ,000 in the end. Right. Just do an Edinburgh show. So he's not... yeah just make your own short film um uh yeah um buy a buy a camper van and then sell it for 75 pounds if you're my dad but like i say that's that was uh that seems a bit more you know he didn't he didn't he didn't make millions and disappear but it's interesting that we that it's also located in the bristol area um and i used to live in bristol and i had heard of this.

30:37You'd heard of this? Before this message. The zoo guy? Yeah. Well, that's fact then. And was Bristol Zoo free other than this booth? Maybe at the time? Yeah, because I'm just saying. It might be cheaper for you to go to Bristol a couple of weeks, a couple of days away. Bristol Zoo is actually no longer. If I upgrade your gold membership, can I skip this guy's booth? That's what I'm saying. Who is that bloke? I think he's recently died. He was like a lord or something like that, but it was like a family peerage or something. You know those things that get handed down? Yeah, handed down. Rightly so, rightly so.

31:15And they used to do, there was a daytime TV show that they used to do from there. He used to have like some sort of safari park or something like that. But he was a wacky guy. I think I know who you mean, actually. I think he was some sort of Marquis or something. Is he the one, he had a statue of two? He had like long hair. The Marquis was a bath and he had a safari park. Is that right? I think it might be, yeah. But he was obsessed with that. He was a proper hippie. He was like a sex craze. I think he had a statue of two tortoises having sex. 60s hippie sort of guy. Yeah. And he was like, honestly, I could get on board with it.

31:49He was like, yeah, I've been given all this stuff. I might as well do something fucking fun with it. I know I'm having a go at it. I'd bloody love to be an aristocrat. Just jealous. But he was like a rogue aristocrat. Well, I think they do go a bit bonkers sometimes because they've got enough money. and they're like, what can I do? Who's the geezer? Jugs fired by go mental, I imagine. Who's the geezer who killed his nanny or something and then disappeared and nobody knew what fucking happened? Lord Lucan. Yeah. Yeah, he, I think he, did he murder his wife? He murdered his wife. Yeah, he murdered his wife and then he fled.

32:26But nobody found him. They never found him. Never found him. No, no. Yeah. I like that. I like the wackier aristocrats. Yeah, yeah. I don't like the ones that... I don't like the ones who just make sound business investments and then end up even more rich. You say, no, that's not fair. No, the point is you're meant to go mental because you add all the money. So the fair thing is for you to... I quite like the ones that inherit everything and they go, right, and how much does this cost a year to run? So they inherit everything, but basically what they've inherited is... It's like me buying you a Ferrari.

33:01Yeah. and going oh it's your birthday joe i bought you a ferrari um i put 10 000 pounds down on it you just need to cover the yeah the rest of the payments yeah and they inherit this stuff and then they have to sort of they sort of turn their they turn the grounds into sort of wedding um yeah places and they're really they're expensive to run i was speaking to my friend the other day and he said he had a rich mate growing up and like his dad had bought like a country house like a big pile but he said that when he went around that they they were just kind of in like two or three of the rooms they're always in like that yeah the snug style rooms the rest of it and the other ones were just like really cold and like well no they were like that's the but that's the um that's the plot to the gentleman uh the netflix series oh i see so this guy uh inherit he's from quite a well-to-do family and stuff and he inherited he inherits all this stuff and he's like it costs a fucking fortune to run yeah um and who stars in the gentleman theo james yeah yeah and i was a little bit heartbroken because on the little blurb on the bbc news website where it had the bond contenders had theo james's cv in between his movie not even on there not even on it good for him he's done well good it's probably good it's like one of From experience, get that off your CV.

34:26It's like one of those WhatsApp messages that's just a picture of a turd and you want to get enough above it so that it's not there anymore. I was like, well done, you bumped it down. If you want to get more acting work, get Inbetweeners off your CV. Yeah, it's not going to get in Bond, is it? It's not, no. Inbetweeners to Bond. I honestly was like, oh, he'll probably still have that, at least like number two on his CV or something. not even there no he's done loads to be fair he's done loads absolutely loads but yeah I like that what was that what was that guy what was the TV show well I'm trying to find I can see I looked up and there's also the Marquis of Bath and I think it was Lord Bath they had lands that they had the Longleat estate that's it Longleat Safari Park yeah Longleat Safari Park and he's basically bought a load of lions.

35:25He goes around in what looks like a huge embroidered dressing gown. He dresses like is it Barbar? You know, the elephant in the dressing gown. He's dressed as an elephant. Is he dead now though? Yeah, I think he's quite long gone. No, not long gone. It must have been a couple of years ago. Okay, but Emma Thin, which is about T-H-Y-N-N, she's now the Marchioness? Is that how you say that? Emma Thin is a fucking great name. Thin with a Y. I think you find it's pronounced Tyne. Emma Tyne. No, I don't know. I don't know. It could be either. I pronounce it Emma Bollock. Is it Marquis or Marquis?

36:02Marquis, I think. It's French. Yeah, but I think it's one of those things where you actually do pronounce it in, I don't know. It's like how we say fillet. When you go to America. Oh yeah, they say fillet. Fillet. And we're like, don't try and fillet. I'll have a steak fillet. Yeah. I'm honestly like... Per se, yeah, that's right. No, I think it's one of those things where it's like, what's that champagne where like... Veuve Clicquot. No, give me some time. No, Moet. You do actually say Moet. You don't say Moet. You do actually say Moet, apparently. So because the French have... It's as though they've laid a trap.

36:46They're like, you'll say it like this to try and impress us. But actually, we don't even want you to. We prefer just saying things like le weekend We don't even like French So don't try to speak French That's the last thing we want We like speaking English as a joke They've got instead of I mean this is probably widely known But they've got a version of match of the day And it's just called match of le day But that's their own joke They're like It is like they've got this language They don't even like it They're like well eventually ideally It'll just be all English Because it's sort of funnier or something We had Football Italia.

37:20Yeah, Gazetta Football Italia. On Channel 4. Yeah. Great show. Goal Lazio. Goal Lazio. Was he saying, I never knew, was he saying goal for Lazio? Was it saying go Lazio? I've not thought of it. Because it was - Goal Lazio. Because it was - All I remember is the little Channel 4 used to turn into a little Italian. That's right. He's turned into a little footballer with an Italian flag. It was great. It was a little footballer. At least it was good. It was good, that. But because Gaza played for Lazio, so I wondered whether it was saying goal for Lazio, which seemed a bit involved. I don't know.

38:03What are we saying about this toll booth, Joe? I think one thing that would strike me is, is it the fact that, well, actually, maybe it doesn't matter, actually. Was the zoo free? And he began charging just because no one else was charging. Apparently it was never free. Have I said this before that I think it was never free? I don't know whether I mentioned this before, but one of the things that I find quite sort of charming about London Zoo is that you do pay to go in, but if you just walk around the outside of London Zoo, you can see quite a lot of animals anyway, like including some of the you know i don't want to have a go there but the good ones right do you know what i mean yeah the glamour the glamour ones yeah then you you pay to go in and you're looking at some spiders or something yeah another thing that i found out recently tarantulas the big spiders they can live to be like 23 like they've they've got one in there tarantula yeah she's got quite a sort of sweet name like charlotte or something and she's Charlotte's Web, I assume that's from.

39:13Oh, yeah. Actually, I don't think she is called Charlotte. Right. That's obviously got stuck in my head. But anyway, she's quite old. So it's never been free. Listen, it's fact. You know, I like the idea of this little booth. It reminds me of a kind of funny Halloween costume. In my head, he's walking with it. That's it, he's walking with it, yeah. And he just sets it down. Yeah, exactly. And then once he's got a load of money, he goes and spends it on running the London Marathon. Yeah. And then he stays in the costume. And then he gets sponsored. And then he makes it all back again. Right. No, I don't...

39:55I mean, it really appeals to me, the idea of this guy going around almost like a comedy robot inside the toll booth. Or you know that guy who looks... What's that costume you wear where you look like you're a monkey in a cage? No, you're in a cage being held by a monkey. Oh, I don't know that one. I think JP wears it in one of the freshman year episodes. But yeah, so I like this chap going around. We better move on though, Joe. Okay. I mean, I can't. Because we've got the world up. Okay. I'm not sure he made millions. I think he made millions and then he disappeared. Yeah. That's why we don't know.

40:30I love it if he made millions and then he bought the zoo. They'd be like, oh, that's annoying because you've done us there. They'd be like, I'll tell you what, game recognised game. Well, I mean, you fucker. But well, okay, well, enjoy playing with the animals, I suppose. They're yours now. The lion eats, just look it up. Just Google it. It's fine. But one of the spiders is quite poisonous. I think it's called the, just look it up. It's called Charlotte. It's called Charlotte. Yeah, it's old though. But talk to you about the 90s. It's fine. I've got to have a piss. Okay, that's fine. So badly.

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43:39Right. Right then. Here we go. It's... All righty. Good morning, Job Seekers. It's time for World Up. Yes. Which is our tournament that we're running at the moment. Round two. It's the biggest tournament that will be going on this summer, that's for sure. we're at round two now which is where we put facts up against each other and we work out which is the best one I'm worried about the final how many do we get in the final? there's five in the final there'll be five facts in the final and we've got to pick one out of the five that's going to be tough maybe we can do sort of a silver and bronze placement if we feel that's right you get second and third place runners-up in the other competition that's going on.

44:34Yeah. I'm thinking it's going to be a kind of Crufts-style final where they'll chop round and go, one, two, three. That's the order. Do we just feel the heat from their anus? Yeah, we do. Is that a thing? I wouldn't know. I feel like they do that in Crufts, don't they? There is definitely a bit where they're looking up their ass. I don't know. they're always like looking up the arse if you're not looking up the arse what the fuck are you doing exactly well let's look up the arse of these next couple of facts Joe I think lift up the tail and look up the arse before Joe brings us our first fact I think I believe we've got a jingle

45:18there were so many facts But which one is the best? Only the world of Has the power to decide

45:41If the world of We can find out the greatest It's George by James and George At no point can I work out where the first beat of the bar was Joe, I think you've got the first one for this week I do So this one comes from Donza89 via Instagram Donza Donza Have you spoken to Donza? Donza Who the fuck is Donza? Hey Donza, how you going? Go on. Domzer would be out bringing in the lambs or something. Okay. Volkswagen's most sold part is actually a sausage. Okay. The VW Currywurst, parts number 199398500A. VW sold over 8.5 million sausages in 2024. Now, I was about to say, oh, I've heard this fact. I've just remembered.

46:52I read it. It was in one of the comments of the... Yeah. Correct. I've not heard of Volkswagen selling sausages. This is new news to me. They sell sausages. Why would they sell sausages? Well, I suppose they sell sausages because Brits and others probably go over to Oktoberfest or what have you and they are like well

47:26what's German wouldn't it be funny if a car and a sausage cars, sausages and beers I imagine there's a lot of pressure at the VW company they probably turn up and they're probably like how many sausages have we sold this year oh mein führer we have sold 8.5 million good you have not sold enough sausages take him away get him out of my sight yeah that sort of thing yeah no no doubt no no it's i mean um so so you're saying that it's a high pressure working environment how many sausages have you sold i'm not sure well we have mails of working making your talk yeah that's no i mean no i mean i can give you some information on this if you'd like okay i'm just gonna say this is my guess yes is that it's kind of a gimmick it's sort of for an international maybe a tourist market i don't really understand why it's only the it's only the the the so on 8.5 million also it's confusing because it's because it's being classed as a part of a manufacturing part it's got a number and everything apart maybe do they sell them on tours of their factory is it a big joke is it like our ikea well ikea sold meatballs they sell a lot of meatballs don't they yeah so it might be that sort of thing i think it's kitsch or a gimmick maybe it is for a domestic market but in which case it's kind of a joke it's maybe a souvenir from the vw factory in the same way that you can, some car manufacturers make a little kind of micro-machine version of their car.

49:10It's a present VW. Wouldn't it be funny if you made a sausage? That's my guess. I think it probably is true, but I think that VW kind of are slightly leaning into the kitsch of it. That's my guess. Okay. Okay. So from what I found out, that the sausages is actually produced for its factories. So for the people who actually work there. Oh, right. No, that's bullshit, man. The factories are quite remote, so it's to create supply for the remote workers. So they're put in the kitchens of the factory workers. Correct. So that's what they serve at all their canteens and all that sort of stuff. But as well as that, they're also apparently served at football stadiums and given to Volkswagen customers as well.

49:52So the most sold... I think it's a technicality. It's not like we sell sausages and look how many we've sold. If you're working for VW, shouldn't you be getting your sausage for free? This is what, well, someone's got to pay for the sausage. Put that on a t-shirt. Apparently they also make their own ketchup as well. That goes alongside the sausages. Make their own ketchup? Mm-hmm. Well, well. I'd prefer a bit of mustard. Apparently it's got a bit more to it than normal ketchup. Normal ketchup. I think to make up for the lack of mustard. That's, um... I feel like that's a technical effect. They're calling it a part.

50:39I mean, I suppose... Do you have to have sausage? I feel like... What I'm saying is, if you're a vegetarian, is there another part? If you could say, I'm a vegetarian, so can I not have part number 199398500A? Could I please have part number 199... Yeah, B, and then that's broccoli. Yeah. Or a... No, they're not obviously... Or a... What do they call it? They haven't constructed the broccoli, have they? Corn, a corn sausage. I think if, you know, Walls or, you know, a big sausage company. Isn't it weird that Walls make sausage? Do you know that Walls, their most sold part is actually BMW. Right.

51:20It's weird because they feed them to their workers. Isn't it weird that Walls make sausage and also ice cream? Is it weird, isn't it? Is it the same company? Yeah. It is. Yeah. So that makes me think that they're people that don't give a fuck. They're just after the old Yankee dollar. They're just, we'll sell ice cream, we'll sell sausages. Sausage, whatever you want. Like Mars makes the most cat food or something. Oh, God, does it? The Mars Corporation. Yeah, they've got their chocolate wing, but they've also got like cat and dog food. And I think they also do other domestic sort of products as well.

51:58It makes me think they're not in it for the passion. I know. They're not chocolatiers, are they? No. I'll tell you who is a chocolatier. Mr. Lint. I knew you were going to say Lint. I knew you were going to say Lint. I knew you were going to say Lint. Yeah. He's a chocolatier. That's a fucking chocolatier. Say what you like about Lint. They're fucking Easter bunnies. They're out of this world. I'm not saying anything about Lint. I think Lint are good. My kids, we were doing... Hannah's a Lint girl. Me and Claire were doing... 70%. We were doing our tour over Christmas. Hannah, they haven't got lint.

52:30Do you want another one? Over Easter. Me and Claire were doing our tour over Easter. And who was it that got those lint? Was it you? I arranged for you. Yeah. Our manager arranged for some treats because it was over Christmas. Over Easter. Over Easter. Easter! Whatever. Easter's sort of the anti-Christmas, isn't it? Well, Easter's... It's the complete opposite of Christmas. Well, Easter's like good news and bad, I suppose, isn't it? Christmas was... Christmas is like, well, we'll see. Well, listen, I can't keep up with the game. Christmas is a baby. He was born on Christmas and he was fucking born again on Easter.

53:06I know. I'm struggling here, Jesus. Help me out. Christmas is like, a baby's here. Could be good, could be bad. Easter's like, he was good, but bad news, he's dead. He's dead. But good news, he's alive again. He's alive again. Yeah. Easter's a complicated story. Christmas is a much simpler story. Christmas is like, the baby's been born. Yeah. Well, no, to be fair, it was complicated because... There was no father. Yeah. Other than God. Do you remember that? Oh, the Holy Spirit will come on you. Do you remember that? That was unbelievable. We knew it was coming every Christmas. I'll be honest. How will I get pregnant?

53:37The Holy Spirit will come on you. I feel like if Jeremy... The Bible. I feel like if Jeremy and Carl was around Bethlehem, around Christmas. Obviously, it wasn't called Christmas time at the time. But he would have gone, it would have been, Carl sees the child's father. They would have done paternity tests. Imagine that. She says, that's like a Jerry Springer episode. She's pregnant. I've not had sex with her yet. She reckons it was God. And poor old Joseph's just sat there and went, yeah, all right then. So, okay. Admit it. Admit it. Yeah. You were too busy out having a good time. Yeah. Do you know what a manger is?

54:20Trough? It's a thing for horses to eat out of. Yeah. Dog in the manger. Yeah. that's another thing as well. The dog was like, it didn't even want, I never understood the dog in the manger because doesn't the dog, it probably is quite nice to be in the manger. Hang on, what's the dog in the manger? The dog in the manger is basically saying, you're spoiling someone else's fun even though it isn't fun for you. So it's like, say I wanted to go and see a play. Yeah. And you don't even want to see the play but you deliberately put the last two tickets just so I can't do it. You had to go on someone's date before it ends.

54:49That's right. I had to go on a date and I wasn't even invited to the play. No. I was just to the first bit. um but if say you bought the tickets to the play and you didn't even want to see the play but it was just so i couldn't go i'd i'd accuse you of being a dog in the manger right and the idea is that the dog doesn't even like being in the manger but it's just doing it so the horse can't eat the hay do you know what my i think the major does sound nice i think my dog's a dog i think a dog does do stuff like that. I'm convinced my dog does stuff. Yeah. Not because he wants to. Yeah. Because he knows it'll piss me off.

55:29I'm like that with Claire. Well, you've got, you know, dogs in mangers left, right, centre. Yeah. Shea Buckley's. Right. Do we like this fact? Do we like it? I'm not sure I'm a big fan. They're calling it apart. But, and I guess because of that, it passes muster. I think Donza's let in an own goal early on. We don't know what the next fact is, but I think this fact is 1-0 down already. I'm not a big fan of this fact. I think it's, I haven't learned anything from it. I think it's a fake fact. I think it's like, yeah, all right. that yeah they sell a lot of sausages but that's because they've they've maneuvered themselves into a position they've created the demand but they do call it a part that's stupid but what i wonder if anything else what i'd like from this is to know are there any other things that you can buy in the canteen that are parts and have a number yeah i mean also is there some way in which because in labeling it as a part do they in some way get to maybe do they get to kind of write it up differently in the accounts like you know what i mean is it yeah there's that let's have a little ad break and then we're gonna come back with the next fact i'm gonna be honest joe this next fact needs to be dog shit if uh if sausage goes through we've got form yes so here we go um enjoy enjoy with these ads okay welcome back um we now need to discuss uh our next um submitted fact to see it's going to go up against don's sausage and uh this fact comes from greg austin via instagram greg says chainsaws were originally invented in the late 18th century chainsaws were originally so the 1700s to assist with difficult childbirths assist imagine if you were having a difficult childbirth they were like don't worry helps on the way yeah what's that noise unbelievable to be fair that would be quite a funny thing and if I was to have if I was to go again with a child I think I would plan some stuff so if Claire's like if I've if we you know you've checked them in they're in the bed and stuff if I ran in with like a sort of Jason hockey mask or something and a chainsaw right we're ready let's get this baby out of there I think that would be quite funny oh my god yeah yeah it'd probably be quite funny I think Claire would get a kick out of that yeah so yeah chainsaws were originally invented in the late 18th century now listen I mean And this is, I mean.

58:28I'm going to need. I feel like I've seen this before somewhere. Before. Oh, this childbirth was really difficult, but luckily it's now become easy. So. Thanks to the addition of this chainsaw. So this was way before the invention of the combustion engine. So it's not a chainsaw in the way that we're thinking of. Or that was in my head, which is the thing that you pull. Yeah. it's not like a what is it makita or is it makita yeah they make chainsaws i'd assume so yeah they make power tools they're making chainsaws then baby yeah it used to it what back in the day when i was on them making change when i was on this um i don't know if it's changed now actually to be fair i'm not i'm not up with my power tools knowledge but it used to be dewalt dewalt were the go-to the wall drills and stuff like that um and then um makita started sort of coming up going hey listen we do fucking quality shit as well i wonder what it is now i don't know i'll find out soon once this podcast goes goes under i'm sure i'll have to invest in some new power tools but would you be a chainsaw without an engine well this is what i mean so is it another fact it's Like, oh, it's a chainsaw, but it's not, it's not, it's technically a chainsaw.

59:47It's not the thing that you're thinking of. Well, to be fair, they did have steam engines. I mean, they did have... In the 1700s? They did, yeah. I think the first steam engine was like seven, maybe even the first half of the 18th century. Is that right? Oh, wasn't it like Stevenson's rocket? It was a steam train. And I'm pretty sure that was like 1726 or something. I mean, earlier than one might think. So it's possible that they did have an engine. But I mean, in terms of how on earth that would have connected to a chainsaw. Whenever I think of like automation and factories and trains and stuff like that, I just think of the 1800s.

1:00:30But there must have been something leading up to that. There was something, yeah, I think the, yeah, the kind of real like big factories and like big industrialization, heavy industry, that's like the 1800s. But there was, in terms of the inventions that powered it, that would have been in the 1700s. And I don't really have - I'm guessing it will be something, you know, if you took the pedals and the chain off a bike. Yes, okay. And you just had that. Fuck, you know, yeah. And you ran up to a pregnant woman. Hold her still. Hold her down. Coming in. Jesus Christ. We'll get this baby out one way or another.

1:01:09I suppose. But will she survive? That doesn't matter. Don't worry about that. Honestly, yeah. Well, you do have things. Poor old women. Oh, that's terrible. The amount of women that died giving birth. God. You do have things that are invented for totally separate purposes. for which they end up, those for which they end up being used. Oh, that's NASA, isn't it? What was NASA supposed to be? Well, NASA invented a load of shit. Like back in the 60s. No, during the Apollo missions and all that, I can't think of any examples. Well, GPS, for example. That's military. But NASA had to invent a load of stuff to try and get us on the moon or whatever.

1:01:56And then over a few decades, it doesn't cost millions of dollars to make that thing anymore and then it becomes part of our lives. Yes. I think computers. Yeah, loads of military stuff. I mean, also like the internet was military. It was called, was it called like Herpanet or something? There was some way of making, like you've got a computer here. If only you could get the stuff that's on the hard drive of this computer onto the hard drive of this computer because that would be useful for a military. You can see why that would be useful. And that was called that. It was called something web or net or something.

1:02:31Didn't Tim Berners-Lee invent it in Britain? But then he didn't really. We could have computers in Britain, but we don't. We sort of fumble the marketing of it. Yeah, we don't. Yeah. I think the internet was invented in Britain. Yeah. But then there was also a HarperNet. That's it. No, DARPAnet. No. What? I can't remember. It doesn't matter. I can't remember and it doesn't matter. Hang on a minute. So the chainsaw. This is going to be some loophole. What's interesting is that these two facts, they're sort of paired, aren't they? They're a product that we think we recognise, the sausage, the chainsaw, and yet it comes from an unusual source.

1:03:14Yeah, they're being disguised as something else. Do you want anything from VW? Not really. What, you don't want a sausage? Oh, I didn't know it was a sausage. Do you want anything from the maternity ward? Not really. What, you don't want a chainsaw? Oh, no, I didn't know it was a chainsaw. Oh, this tree's getting on my nerves. Why don't we pop to the hospital? What are you talking about? There's nothing there to help us. Oh, just chainsaw, mate. Oh, just a chainsaw. Oh, yeah. I forgot a chainsaw won't help to chop down a tree. You fucking numpty. Lily, mate, is there any research? Queen Lily, mate, have you done anything to help us out here?

1:03:48Yeah, I've had a little look because this fact made me shudder. Is there a drawing? There's a picture. Yeah, I need to see this. Of what it looks like. And it's much smaller than you will imagine. That's what I was going to say, yeah. And it kind of has like a little windy tool that you saw. I see, okay. You would have thought like you thought with the bicycle. It looks more like a whisk, like that kind of whisk. That's what it is, yeah. But on the end is, yeah. Exactly. And it was sort of primarily used for kind of dealing with diseased and out-of-place bones. Okay. So I think that's where it comes into birth as well.

1:04:23So basically if your bone structure basically wasn't allowing for, your pelvic bones weren't allowing for space for the baby to come through, that they would just get rid of the pelvis. Get rid of that. At bone, basically, which is obviously disgusting. But also it would be used for diseased bones. And there was two Scottish doctors who invented it. So much stuff invented by Scottish doctors. John Aitken and James Jaffray. it was their invention and it was used for quite some time I think for basically a century and then medical enhancements came and I think it became the twisted wire saw which is the is it the jiggly or the giggly saw that it's now used which is the like sort of wire and that is what it's now used right is what it basically it's like a wire yeah so it's just friction yeah right it's just a wire being spun as fast as you can to sort of essentially burn through like a cheese like a cheese um string is that what they call it well look look you know when you cut cheese with a cheese wire yeah cheese string no that's that thing cheese string is made out of cheese yeah that's not so bad in childbirth yeah if you come into the fraternity ward and you've got a cheese string she will be saying she will be saying ignore it's a glass and a half no that's dairy milk both these facts are quite cheeky in as much as a sausage isn't really a part and that maybe isn't really a change in the way that we would think.

1:06:11However, that actually gives them a kind of equality. Yeah, so they're both as bad as each other is what you're saying. Do you know what I don't like about these facts? They're trying to trick me. You don't like the deception? Yeah. They're gaslighting us. Yeah, absolutely. They're gaslighting us. You don't want things you already know, do you? No, but I want things like, I'll tell you something, if the punching octopus was up against any of these, the octopus would have gone through. I feel bad for octopus now. The octopus got a really hard jaw. Group of death. Yeah, it was a group of death. Whereas this, money's clearly changed hands.

1:06:44Yeah, this is... Oh, that's funny that Infantino's driving around in that nice new car. This is Faroe Islands versus Moldova or whatever. Don't slack off countries. We're not only saying they're bad at football. I think that's all right. That's fine. But Faroe Islands actually almost got in, didn't they? They're always playing Scotland. Always playing Scotland. Scotland is always playing the Faroe Islands. I'd love to know how many times Scotland has played the Faroe Islands. I feel like Scotland is constantly playing. Scotland are playing tonight. Who are they playing? Oh, they're against the Faroe Islands.

1:07:20Yeah. Always fucking playing the Faroe Islands. Is that the old firm? Scotland and the Faroe Islands. They have played each other 11 times in men's international football. What, in the last year? Yeah. Yeah. And what have they done since lunch? Right. Okay. What are we doing here? So we've got the chainsaw fat and the sausage fat. I just, I feel that in terms of like... And I don't want to throw it over to Lily May this time. We put our queen in an awkward position last week. We did. I didn't want to vote against a Lily, but that's what happened. And I'm sorry. Oh yeah, another, yeah. We get Joes, Jameses and Lillys.

1:08:02That's who gets through. If it was a Lily May, almost certainly would have been. Lily May would have gone through. I think that probably just because I think there is a little bit of distance between... Because you said last time, Lily May, this counts as me slandering one of the facts. But I'm not slandering it. I'm just saying that, to me, the chainsaw one is not quite a chainsaw in the way that we might think of a chainsaw. and I think because of that I can't believe we're doing this but I think we're going to go back to part number 199 etc and say maybe you're going through sort of because of vibes as well I think Sausage has come back 2-1 I think it's come back 2-1 I think it's come back 2-1 it let a goal in in the first five minutes and it's gone on to me personally because they had a nightmare start because I don't think I don't think it's a chainsaw I'm sure the goalkeeper didn't expect the first thing he'd have to do would be picking the ball out of the back of his own net yeah but I think I think the sausage even though even though I was a bit down on the sausage fact when I first heard it I'm more down on the yeah on the chainsaw fact yeah and just because the sausage it's got a bit of comedy in there I think it's I think in terms of vibes the sausage is quite a good vibe I'd rather be present at the sausage fact than at the chainsaw fact.

1:09:38Also, something that I've overlooked up until this point, when I am hungry, currywurst. That's a good sausage. Correct. It's not just your pork. It's not just a breakfast sausage. The currywurst. I could fucking eat one of those right now, I'll be honest with you. Hell yeah. And it's interesting that you can only get a curry versed at VW. They're not... No, you can get them other places. No, but what I mean is that if you work at VW, you can't get a regular versed. Yeah, you can't get a breakfast. Which makes me think that also the standard of the sausage is quite good. And it's a big hit in the cafeteria.

1:10:21Like you said, there'll be other things to eat in that cafeteria, but they're selling so many. The hand over fist on these sausages. Yeah. It's going to be the sausage for me, Joe So Donza's Donza's boy Donza Donza's sausage Has gone through To the final Congratulations You're in the ground final

1:10:47I will say To Who's the other person? Greg Greg Austin I will say, Greg Come back Do come back Come back Come and give us another fact Wow Don't be disheartened. Yeah. Just because you didn't cut the mustard this time. You didn't cut the part B this time. Anyway, Joe, I am all fact out. Me too. My brains have been fact out. What have we learned? What have we learned? Jesus, it felt like it ages ago that we started this episode. I've not learned anything. That's the honest answer. Okay. I've not learned a gosh darn single thing, Joe. And, you know, good. Well, we've learned that stuff about the zoo.

1:11:36That was quite... There we go. No, we didn't learn that. We didn't really learn anything. We didn't really learn anything. Come on. Did that turn out to be true or not? We don't know. We left it. We left it hanging. It's a myth. We decided that it was funny enough to be true. Yeah. It's true for us. So we've not learned anything. We learned about that road. The guy set up a road, lost 15 grand. Well, I knew that before. That was my thing that I had turned up with. yeah so yeah you already knew it yeah so we've learnt nothing apart from Volkswagen sell a lot of sausages

1:12:07we'll be back next week armed with more facts chats and another world up match that's what we said last week you're getting lazy well it's the tournament so I'm just so we're just doing that we're doing that for the six weeks well for five that's the only funny thing that we do on this podcast well thank you when you write a little you know what it's about time I got some credit for that so you know what it was worth it for that can't we get something now what have we got we'll be back next week armed with more facts chats and what do we talk about um uh and men charging to see big cats is that right yeah we got yeah well that's do you want to go back to another world I feel like we need to leave the queen up to this one um don't forget that you can get in touch with us If you'd like us to fact check something that feels true to you or whatever nonsense you'd like to tell us, our email is hello at joanjamespod.com.

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