SERIES 15: Episode 9 - David Holmes, FPInsoles, Over+Above, Ruler of London, Jones Road, The Assembly

0:05Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome to making the cut. That's alright, she's eating. I would get recording quickly just to capture eating because it's normally me. Go on, let's have a listen.

0:23The juice.

0:25Davina McCall: Okay, I'm really sorry, let me, hang on. Okay, go on. Yeah, that's right. Get it down here. Oh, my God. I'm sorry, guys. Sorry about that. I've done it enough. Sorry about that.

0:37Michael Douglas: I was just about to reach to grab some peanuts there, but I won't do that either. I hope everybody is all right. We have been in sunny Ibiza for the weekend, which is brilliant. Oh, my God, it was so good. We went to Pikes for a little dance on Sunday night.

0:52Davina McCall: Do you know, I think Pikes is a good antidote to the really big clubs. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot more... If you're going to go to Pikes, please take girls. Yeah, it was a bit too blokey. There was a lot of men, and I think it's our duty to help these clubs stay balanced. Yeah. If you're having a girls' night out, go to Pikes. I'm just going to go and shut the fridge door. There's a lot of fellas there.

1:16Michael Douglas: Yeah, so Pikes was good fun. DJ was brilliant. There was a DJ there called David Holmes. He was kind of an old-school, 80s DJ, playing absolutely brilliant songs.

1:26Davina McCall: David Holmes has got to be our first recommendation. Well, there you go.

1:29Michael Douglas: Let's do that. Let's see where he is on SoundCloud.

1:31Davina McCall: David Holmes was so unbelievably good. Wasn't he? Yeah, he was brilliant. Yeah, yeah, well done. Also, I would like to recommend an app called Resident Advisor. And they have an app and there's a Resident Advisor guide. and it gives you gigs and who's playing today in London they've got all the gigs that are happening tonight where there are open decks where things are happening tomorrow but you can also look up various DJs as well if you want but that's a really good one to get discover hang on search look so there was a DJ called David Holmes playing at Pikes and he was brilliant he is really really Good is definitely, definitely one.

2:21Davina McCall: If you see him playing anywhere, go. Yeah, yeah.

2:23Michael Douglas: He seems to be out in the beat for quite a bit. But yeah, Pikes was quite good. A bit of male energy going on there. And, oh, you're going to sneeze? Go on, look into the light. Look into the light. No? Thank you. That's all right. It's a pleasure.

2:40Davina McCall: Yes, I think that just happens on some nights in a club. Yeah, it does. And I always think it's quite hard, having run clubs myself to get that balance right. Yeah. Because sometimes you let in a gang of girls and then a gang of guys and then a gang of guys and then a gang of girls doesn't come. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, it's just so hard.

2:59Michael Douglas: What I do find a bit annoying is blokes on the dance floor not dancing.

3:04Davina McCall: Yes.

3:04Michael Douglas: I had to say to a few of them, are you going to move? You're a body at all.

3:07Davina McCall: I really enjoyed you doing that. That was so funny.

3:10Michael Douglas: And some guy said, you don't want to see me dancing. I was like, I don't want to see you stood still is what I don't want. like go somewhere else yes I quite like being a bit moody about that you know

3:21Davina McCall: can I just say something you're actually never moody I was a bit moody with this guy the other night can I just say something you weren't moody you ended up best friends with him in the end we did have a laugh you know you took it quite well yeah you took it very well and his girlfriend his wife was lovely yeah she was lovely oh my god she was so nice she was not believing

3:36Michael Douglas: the dance floor and he just had to stay there I think but blokes you know if you don't know how to dance just watch YouTube videos or something like that and get going you know

3:45Davina McCall: well you know

3:46Michael Douglas: Set yourself free.

3:47Davina McCall: I mean, you don't have to dance. You just have to sway from side to side. Yeah, sway around a bit.

3:50Michael Douglas: Yeah, look like you're enjoying it.

3:51Davina McCall: It's not hard.

3:52Michael Douglas: Fake it till you make it, right?

3:53Davina McCall: Right.

3:55Michael Douglas: So that was good. We came back. We've done a bit of work. We're going away again tomorrow. We're having a summer of little breaks. Yes. So we're off to Berlin tomorrow.

4:04Davina McCall: Oh, so exciting.

4:04Michael Douglas: Meet up with a few mates and do a bit of dancing and stuff like that. So excited. So this is our last little job before we hit the dance floor.

4:14Davina McCall: Yes. Are you all right? Have you had a nice time with you for the last couple of nights? I have had a very good time. I have been kind of washing, packing, getting sorted. I have talked to lots of friends and caught up with lots of people. Yeah, yeah, good, good. And I have been prepping for this podcast.

4:31Michael Douglas: Well done. Okay, so I'm going to give my first recommendation. This is, somebody sent this in. Yeah. They sent a couple of pairs, pair for you and pair for me. Yeah. They are called Footprint Insole. they're fpinsoles.co.uk and I'm going to read that little letter it says hi Davina and Michael I'm sure you get tons of these letters my name is Heather and I've enclosed a pair of insoles from fpinsoles.co.uk if you both to try I've been listening to Making the Cut for some time now I love finding out about new products movies, places to go and food so I thought you might like to try and possibly review these insoles so I've already taken these insoles and put them in my most uncomfortable pair of shoes Oh yeah, and?

5:11Michael Douglas: Now the interesting thing about my most uncomfortable pair of shoes is they are possibly my best and favourite shoe.

5:17Davina McCall: Oh, okay.

5:17Michael Douglas: In style and design.

5:19Davina McCall: Yes.

5:19Michael Douglas: But they are really uncomfortable. Yes. And I'm like, how can I make these comfortable to wear? Because I love the way they look on me. Yes. I feel Bobby Dazzler cool in them. But I've got a really sore feet at the end of the day and a sore bum and a sore back, you know. And these are little desert boots you bought me probably about six years ago. And I keep trying to find different ways to wear them. Anyway, cut these down to size, whazz them in there. Bingo.

5:43Davina McCall: Really?

5:43Michael Douglas: Comfy shoe. Really? Oh, so good.

5:46Davina McCall: Oh, my God, this is mega.

5:47Michael Douglas: So, FP insoles, let me finish the letter. They originated, these insoles, in the skateboarding scene to protect skateboarders when making big jumps. They absorb up to 90 % of the impact energy from radiating up your joints and body. I wear them daily and use them whilst running, doing the couch to 5K, being perimenipausal, and I have to protect my body. Thanks for the book, Davina. NASA use the technology to protect their robots Astral Bee and members of the Cirque du Soleil have also used these during training and on stage I work for a skateboard distribution company in the UK that distributes Footprint mainly to skateboard retail shops but we'd love to be able to reach more people that are not just skateboarders and you both have such a great connection with your audience manage to captivate us with your authenticity and energy this is very nice isn't it I was wondering if you'd like to try these the answer is yes Heather I am trying them and I really really like them now something you need to know about me is that my mum, for many, many years, was the customer care manager for Soberthane.

6:44Davina McCall: What?

6:45Michael Douglas: Soberthane made the most famous and kind of successful insoles. Really? And they made pads for cycling gloves with the Soberthane in the hands so you didn't get all the shake from your arms. Oh, wow. They made cycling shorts with Soberthane in the bum and the crotch and they made insoles and all sorts of other things. Compeed, they also made. You know the Compe blisters? Oh, yeah. so I know all about shock absorption stuff from my mum they can ease any stress and strain you might find from running such as shin splints which I get or just daily life aching from being running for long periods so anyway I just want to say FP and Solz and Heather Anderson I just want to say a massive thank you these have come just at the right time she sent us two pairs

7:30Davina McCall: no but I'm on the website oh are you yeah get another pair

7:34Michael Douglas: yeah get another couple of pairs

7:35Davina McCall: six or seven

7:36Michael Douglas: I'm a six. No, get a seven. I'll cut them down.

7:39Davina McCall: Are you sure?

7:40Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah, because I'm about six and a half.

7:41Davina McCall: Okay.

7:42Michael Douglas: Yeah. So that's my first recommendation. They are so nice and comfy. I mean, this is great. All I did is measured up against my other insoles.

7:48Davina McCall: Oh, all the insoles, one.

7:51Michael Douglas: Yeah.

7:51Davina McCall: The one for the arch. That's heel support, though. No, you don't need that. Just the insoles, yeah. Because you've got another sporting thing I feel like you should talk about. Let me tell you about this. So it is called Over and Above and it is a sports, I don't want to call it a sportswear company, but it's really, really clever. Now, in the interest of being open, somebody has gifted me some of this sportswear because I was like, I can't talk about it unless I've tried it. and so he did bring me some to try and it was a friend of my son's dad but over and above basically is all about athletic performance but also for anybody that exercises at all they do garment innovations so it's patented it's completely original with kinesiology so it's um it's like engineered sportswear apparel um and it can basically optimize your capabilities but also if you've got an area that's vulnerable like you know my achilles have always been vulnerable right and you know i was saying they were sore again the other day I was like, oh, I can't run.

9:19Davina McCall: So I put on these calf... I'm trying to show you... Oh, there. They look like that. Yep. So I put on... But they're not socks. No. They're like socks without feet. Yes, but what they've got is they've got these straps strapped on. Now, you know the kind of tape that a physio would use to tape your leg. It is as if when you put these calf socks on your calf, and I will post a picture on making the cut so you can see what I'm talking about. about it's as if someone has strapped your leg and it is the weirdest thing you have to be quite careful the way you put the clothes on because they're sensitive but they stretch brilliantly i actually put a sock on yeah to get my foot through the calf sock okay so you know what i mean so it slid through it was quite tight a bit like a compression tight yeah but i ran in them and I have no pain in my Achilles today.

10:15Really?

10:16Davina McCall: Yes. You've been for a run today? I went for a run. I went for a 5K run today. Well done. Yeah, but isn't that amazing? Yeah, yeah. On the road. Like, it's mega, that, for me. That's like a game changer. So they do all types of stuff. They do T-shirts. They do leggings. They do, I mean, it's... These calf support things. This is for your body mapped compression, basically. So that's what the calf supports look like. But there are leggings, there are shorts, there are tops that kind of hold you in. They can really genuinely make a difference to your training. And you don't have to be an athlete to feel the benefit of it.

10:59Thank God.

10:59Davina McCall: I mean, obviously, I am. Yeah. Yeah, of course you are. Yeah. You know, I obviously am. But if you're not, you can also get benefit from it. It is really, really amazing stuff. Now, let me just have a look. I'll just say, Fox, you rang me today after a 5K rung and was going on and on about how good these were. Now, just recently, I've talked about a couple of things that have been quite expensive. And the sleeves that you can get range from about£50. But the pro-thigh tights are about£120. pounds so it's not cheap and what i've just been talking about the calf sleeves 65 pounds but they are made very very well as long as you put them on carefully and you don't rip them and they they feel actually i took great care of mine solid you can wash them re-wear wash re-wear they are absolutely brilliant but if if you have a problem with this or strains or anything like that it will get your body into peak position to train.

12:06Davina McCall: It is really good. I think I'll definitely get some of this stuff. Try some of this, honestly. Try a bit of break dancing. In fact, we wear the same clothes, don't we? Yeah, we do. Try this. I'll just try yours. Fantastic. Anyway, it is quite spenny, but it is worth it if you need it. Yeah. And I need it. Yeah. It was good. If I talk about the splits machine, I feel like maybe I have talked about the splits machine. I mean, I'm still, I'm not really getting on very well with that because I'm so busy. No, I know. It's the kind of thing you have to do every day, isn't it? I do, and I'm so unbelievably busy at the moment.

12:44It's shocking. I thought I'd be a little bit easier over the summer. I know. It's like... But also, I think we're going away a bit.

12:51Davina McCall: We are. And that means that when you come back, it's even harder. There's a lot of yoga going on where we're going this weekend. I might be able to do a bit of flexing. Yes, that would be really nice, wouldn't it? I'd quite like to do a yoga class in the mornings. Well, where we go? Remember that wooden platform?

13:03Michael Douglas: You see people in the morning doing that.

13:05Davina McCall: We could just go and do our own stretching out there, couldn't we?

13:08Michael Douglas: Somebody, I can't remember who it is, and I've lost the note, but it was someone on Instagram who contacted me. So if you're listening to this, it's you who I'm talking to. But you've sent me Ruler of London. Oh, you owe these people big time. Ruleroflondon.com. And this particular lady sent me a message, and it said, look, have a little look at this company. They make clothes for small people. And I was like, brilliant, that is me, you know. So I find it very difficult to find clothes. So I am what they call probably an extra small. I've probably got a 35-inch chest, and most smalls are 36. So a small is generally just a little bit loose on me.

13:44Michael Douglas: Sometimes the extra small can be a bit too small, but generally speaking, I'm extra small, and people don't often make extra smalls. It drives me bloody nuts. Yeah, it's really hard. You're in a business, and you're making loads of clothes that are only for a tiny minority of people.

13:57Davina McCall: But you know what is interesting? when there is an extra small, I've looked in a men's clothing brand. They're always sold out. Yes, they are, aren't they? I know. So there must be... A market for it. A market.

14:08Michael Douglas: Anyway, this company, Ruler of London, do these T-shirts. So I've got one on right now.

14:13Davina McCall: It's really good. Michael, look at me. I'm going to take a picture of you in it. Okay, yeah. It's just a black T-shirt, like plain black T-shirt. But I'm going to do printing onto them. Thanks very much. Sexy. Yeah, that's me.

14:26Michael Douglas: Look at you. So go and have a little look. Ruler of, let me see, we've got a little about us page. Let me see what it says. The idea for ruler of London started with a made up word that is the word sure so, a mixture of short and torso. My wife made it up or at least she claimed she did. I googled it. She might be right. Either way, she won the argument. So the one thing I like about a short t-shirt is that it fits around the chest and it fits on the arms. So my muscles look quite good in it.

14:56Davina McCall: Yeah, your muscles look good.

14:57Michael Douglas: But one of the problems with T-shirts, they're extremely long. They're always made for something like 5 '10", and I am about 5 '5". So what I often do is buy a T-shirt, extra small, and then either get the sewing machine out and hem it. But I haven't got what they call, I think it's called a crossover stitch or something like that. For hemming, so they often fray a little bit. So this has solved my entire problem. This is a short torsoed, extra small T-shirt. £19.50 this, which is not bad for a T-shirt. and they do them in pairs for 37 quid. Oh my God, this is brilliant. So it says, often when buying new tops, she'd complain it was cut too long.

15:34Michael Douglas: I've got a sure so, she'd said. Legs are fine, torso short. This is me basically, yeah. Went to that real often and had the same problem. I buy a t-shirt sweater, wonder if it would bunch up attractively around my hips. Stores didn't always have my length in trousers. I started to know saying little warning on sites like ASOS, model is six foot two. I see this on ASOS a lot and I think it's pretty no use to me.

15:53Davina McCall: We get the same for girls.

15:55Michael Douglas: Yeah. Well, no wonder it doesn't fit. I thought he'd give five inches taller. So anyway, that is the concept of ruler. So go and have a little look. If you want T-shirts and tops of the slightly, you don't have to be small. You just want them shorter. I love a fancy belt. As you know, I've got a big belt buckle here. And I like to be able to see it. Yeah, like, what's the point in wearing it if nobody can see it? I don't want to tuck it in either. I don't want a T-shirt tucked in. No. So anyway, this has been an absolute gift. I'm just about to buy four more t-shirts. What else do they sell?

16:28Davina McCall: Not apart from t-shirts. Do they sell shirts?

16:31Michael Douglas: T-shirts, polos, sweatshirts. So I'll look at the old sweatshirts. Yeah, so sweatshirts are nice as well. I might give myself...

16:36Davina McCall: Oh my God, this is so exciting. It really is, isn't it?

16:40Michael Douglas: Organic sweatshirt, extra small.

16:42Davina McCall: You nearly said sex shirt.

16:46Michael Douglas: They do extra small there. Is that when you were in bed? I think it could well be, yeah. Yeah, very nice, very nice. I'm super pleased. Well done, ruler of London. Well done. Delighted.

16:57Davina McCall: I want to talk about Jones Road. I'm really excited about this. Yeah, you've talked to me about this before. I love Bobby Brown. So she is basically an amazing makeup artist who then went on to make Bobby Brown Beauty and sold that and did absolutely brilliantly. And she has started a new brand called Jones Road. Oh, is it? Yes. and they have got makeup, they have got fragrance, they've got kits and tools and the kits are gorgeous. You know what was interesting? I was so upset when Charlotte Tilbury stopped making the square kind of makeup palettes. Yes. With lots of different, everything you needed in.

17:49Yeah, yeah, in one palette. In one palette. Yeah, yeah.

17:51Davina McCall: And this isn't that, but she has made kits. So there's a hero kit, there's a nail polish kit, there's a makeup artist travel kit. So she's got mini pots of things that you might have in your makeup bag to take to travel. So lip gloss, like everything you would need on a plane. And you've got a skincare travel kit as well. I mean, it's absolutely brilliant. but the the packaging is gorgeous i love the super super simple um simpleness of it it's very easy to spot you know it's jones road because of the way that it looks the lipsticks are brilliant the miracle yeah the branding's great right yeah it's brilliant the miracle balm palette is absolutely knockout this it's got like five stars the tinted moisturizer there's just enough tinted moisturiser i wear that at work so i'm on begin again i'm wearing the tinted moisturiser and it is enough for television um the miracle balm is a really shiny lovely i'm going to show you what this looks like it's it gives it a glow yeah yeah can you see the the skin glow yeah um and they come in gorgeous pots there's foundation which is amazing the face pencil they've also got these which are the gel liners so you can get a little paintbrush put that in and you do a little line over your eye yes a beach vacation kit what i like about bobby brown yeah is she knows what you need and this website has got everything it can tell you how to find your shade um find your perfect match kind of what to do and how to use it and then um it also goes to um just bobby which is the page where it's like how to use miracle balm because some of this product some of these products are products that you maybe wouldn't have used before so you're a bit like oh i don't know how to you know bronzer versus blush what's the difference it's a bit like on your website yeah when we you know we've got all these products yeah and um but we're like oh my god how do i use straighteners properly how do i use straighteners to curl my hair but you tell everybody on your website it's got all of that on the jones road website it's got how to use an eyelash curler step by step which lipstick colors make your teeth look whiter i love that bobby's gift guide um brook shield's bold and fearless look um it's just yeah here doesn't she look great I love that t-shirt I am me yeah just want to say Bobby Brown well done because Jones Road is an absolute triumph I absolutely love it and I can't wait to kind of deep dive into even more and I've got to also highly highly recommend the brushes really good quality really easy to clean I've cleaned them a couple of times they're just a brilliant brilliant brand well done jones road so it's jones road beauty.com

21:13now um we watched a tv show a while back that'd be minutes to talk about for for a while it's on itv and it's called the assembly oh yes yeah and it was a mixture of guests um each episode's got a different guest and the audience is essentially filled with people with various neurodivergent what do you call it?

21:33Michael Douglas: Diagnosis is probably a good way. So people have got kind of alternative thinking patterns and stuff like that in the audience and they get the opportunity to ask any question at all to the celebrity that's been invited in. And the two that we watched was one with Danny Dyer and then another one with David Tennant. Yeah. So, and these people aren't allowed to say what you can and can't ask them. and the people asking the questions are not afraid to ask virtually anything really. So it may be a little bit about that career, their relationships, their opinions on trans people or people from different communities, stuff to do with their own private lives, their families, their kids and all that stuff and they have to essentially answer.

22:23Yeah, you can do that. It's not the tumble drive is bleeping away there. I'm just going to go and turn the tumble drive on.

22:28Davina McCall: You keep telling people about the assembly. So I just thought it was really, really good. The big question comes up for David Tennant, which is somebody asks him about his feelings on J.K. Rowling, and I think he handles it really, really well, actually.

22:42Michael Douglas: I think a lot of people know that David Tennant's got a trans child. I don't know if child's the right word, but I'm not sure how old they are. And, of course, he's very supportive of that movement, and we all kind of know J.K. Rowling's position on it. it's a really really brilliant bit of tv when that question get posed and i think david ten handsley brilliant there's another bit in it where um one of the kids has done i think it's king lear or maybe it's hamlet and uh he says to david if i start a scene would you be able to do it with me david tenham's like well it's probably been five years since i did that play but why don't you start and I'll see if I can drop into to the scene you know and the kid in question starts and does two or three sentences

23:30Davina McCall: that was amazing wasn't it

23:32Michael Douglas: you can see his brain kind of go and then bang and then he just goes into the script and I just think wow his ability to recall that much information

23:40Davina McCall: yes it was extraordinary wasn't it

23:42Michael Douglas: that's superb Danny Dyer one was also utterly brilliant but I would say the end of the David Tennant one is What they do at the end is they sing a song, these kids who have been interviewing them. There's a little band that they've got, and they play and sing a song that obviously means something quite profound to the people. They don't know that this is going to happen until the end. But one of my favourite bits, really, is the end of the David Tennant one, is these kids sing Sunshine on Leith by The Proclaimers. And you can see him just utterly floored by it. Obviously, David Tennant, I think he's Glaswegian, but he's from Scotland anyway.

24:20Michael Douglas: And this is a great Scottish anthem. It's a beautiful, brilliant song that you forget how good the Proclaimers were at writing songs. But this one in particular, it just melts your heart. So I don't know if you've heard Sunshine on Leaf before. But there was a Coldplay doing The Piano Room on Radio 2 recently. You can find this on the BBC iPlayer or you can look it up on YouTube. and Coldplay cover Sunshine on Leith as well. I've known this song since the 80s, but I'd forgotten all about it. My dad reintroduced me to it a while ago because The Proclaimers made a film called Sunshine on Leith, a musical film that my dad says is just the best.

24:57Michael Douglas: He bought it on DVD years ago and I've never watched it, but I must get around to seeing that. But you'll know it because I think the song goes, My heart was broken, my heart was broken. Sorrow, sorrow, sorrow.

25:10Davina McCall: David gets properly emotional, doesn't he?

25:13Michael Douglas: Oh, God, yeah. The words in the song are just so, so moving, you know. And the phrase sunshine on leaf, I think, is just a beautiful, brilliant phrase. You don't get sunshine in Scotland that much, but when you do, God, it's breathtaking, you know. So The Assembly is really worth a watch. The next episode, I think, is with Gary Lineker, and then there's a couple of others after that as well. So it's on, I'm pretty sure it's on ITV. So you can see it on ITVX. but if you want something extremely heartwarming and honest to watch then The Assembly on ITVX.

25:49Davina McCall: Oh my God, that was just so professional, the ending. You like that? Yeah, I love that. You've been doing this for a long time. Yeah, no, I mean, I love it. That sounded absolutely incredible. I'm going to talk about two things very, very quickly. One is called In Flight, which is the story of an air stewardess whose son has been accused of murder, which he denies. and she then gets blackmailed by a gang and she is basically being told that her son will die if she doesn't do what they tell her to do. And because she works for an airline, they're asking her to smuggle drugs and obviously this is like easier for her per se than it would be for somebody else because she kind of gets access to different ways of getting through the airport and things like that.

26:35Davina McCall: But it looks, I've watched all the trailers, it looks absolutely amazing it's directed by chris boar who's known for wreck boys from country hell and bad day for the cut the cast look absolutely brilliant and if you like a kind of dramatic very exciting drama this is it this is for you great but what was interesting um prime video great but what was interesting when i watched it and then i scrolled scrolled down i saw the fifth element advertised with Bruce Willis. Now, I've seen a lot of footage of Bruce Willis recently and we have to remember what an absolutely boss actor Bruce Willis is. I mean, he is unbelievable.

27:23Davina McCall: When you look at his collection of films and how... Look, Die Hard, Pulp Fiction, Moonlighting, The Sixth Sense, Assassin, Detective, Detective, paradise city wire room wrong place white elephant vendetta corrective measures i mean it just goes on and on and on american siege apex i mean it's unbelievable and what's interesting is the film that i was going to talk about the fifth element isn't isn't on here there he's done so many films it's not even sin city's amazing it's not even on here he's regularly been named on best celebrity tippers lists. Oh, has he? Do you know why? Because he tips big.

28:13Davina McCall: Because he was a struggling bartender in his early days. And I do the same thing. I always tip 20 % because when I was a waitress, I appreciated it so much. The other thing you're going to love about him, he's quoted as saying, I am much more proud of being a father than being an actor. Yeah, well, I am a B in anything else. Yeah. I'm most proud. I thought that was so lovely. And he's got a trademark, really, which is a man who has suffered a tragedy and has lost something or has had a crisis of confidence or conscience. Well, that's his... That's his trademark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do they call it?

28:52When you're typecast. Yes. Like, yeah. I had this friend of mine...

28:56Davina McCall: Apparently he's nicknamed Bruno. Ah, yeah. I probably knew that. Yeah. He also had a singing career, of course. he made an album and he sang Under the Boardwalk so I would like to recommend I've downloaded it for the plane because it's not mentioned there, the fifth element

29:12Michael Douglas: I'm going to make just a very quick Bruce Willis movie recommendation, Lucky Number Sleven it's a called Number Sleven? yeah, Lucky Number Sleven and it is brilliant

29:26Davina McCall: why?

29:27Michael Douglas: it's just a really good like, oh so it's him that's done this but not that then okay so what's oh okay

29:38Davina McCall: should we download it?

29:39Michael Douglas: and then another bit happens and you're like oh my god it's him no way and then the end of the film it's like holy shit that was brilliant

29:47Davina McCall: oh wow

29:48Michael Douglas: something happens at the beginning of the film when he's a little boy and then the rest of the film is him as an adult trying to work and you're trying to work something out and it has something to do with the beginning of the movie but you're not entirely sure what

30:00Davina McCall: oh I love that

30:01Michael Douglas: and it is I love that I watched it with Chester about two years ago oh did you yeah I'd seen it before when it first came out but it is one of the best kind of good all round movies you will see oh wow action, drama, suspense who done it all that stuff and Bruce Willis I'm so excited yeah well you can download that for the plane

30:18Davina McCall: yeah definitely

30:18Michael Douglas: key numbers 11 I'll do it tonight on the iPad okay I've got one last recommendation yes go so a good friend of mine who I met when I launched my business she helped me do all the branding and the website and all the rest of it she did a very good job brilliant job yeah so i was very very grateful to her and we've stayed in touch and she launched her own business called indy indy supplements is.com and she made various pounders and supplements and stuff like that but not the typical stuff that's full of whey protein and all that yeah what they're trying to do essentially is their mission um as it says on their website here indy exists to give better health to more people by reawakening the healing power of nature so all the ingredients are supernatural and they do various things like powders gut health immunity focus energy skin recovery sleep the products for the body there's a gut bar there's something for the mind recover rest and then there's various accessories but what she did this week when she came over to see us she dropped off a couple of bars of her indie gut bars but a couple of boxes should i say now we've got quite healthy people that work at my studio you You know, Reese is pretty healthy.

31:23Michael Douglas: Andy's very healthy. I'm trying hard to be healthy. Even Sonny is on a good go at it. So these Indy bars got dropped off, so we all started munching away at them for breakfast and stuff like that. What I like about these bars is they're largely about fibre and not about protein. Right. I'm kind of sick and tired of the whole protein game. One, it wears me out. Trying to digest a lot of protein is a very tiring thing to do, so I often find I'm really tired in the afternoon. I've been taking protein on and off for about five years. I am no heavier than I was five years ago. I've no more muscle than I had five years ago.

31:56Michael Douglas: Like, as far as I'm concerned, like, I give up on bloody additional protein, whey-powdered bullshit, you know. Forgive me if you own a brand that sells that kind of stuff. But I'm just out of the game altogether. So if I'm going to eat a bar, I'm like, okay, so what's in it that's good for me? Because there's usually a lot of sugar in these things and various other bits and pieces. But when I saw seven grams of high fiber, I was like, okay, that's pretty good. I'm not great at putting fiber in my body. I know you worked with Deborah James for a while on Ribeta and you got a lot of information about fiber and it's extremely important to put fiber into your body.

32:31Michael Douglas: I know my brother's got pancreatitis at the moment and that's largely due to the food he's been eating most of his life. I know four people have got chronic pancreatitis at the moment. Yeah, and I would have guessed it's probably from bad diet, over-processed foods. Alcohol as well is massive. Yeah, alcohol is pretty bad. Anyway, I thought, you know, fiber intake is very good for me. So we've been eating these in the studio quite a lot. So the Indy Gut Bar, 7 grams of high fiber. There's 20 superfoods in there. 65 % less sugar than various other gut bars. Vitamins, minerals, and prebiotics are in there as well.

33:03Michael Douglas: So I'll just lift off the ingredients. Almond butter, Brazil nuts, flax seeds, quinoa, oats, blueberry, quesha berry, dates, green kiwi, purple carrot, hibiscus, cinnamon, turmeric algae, maca, reishi mushrooms, boboa and chicory roots that's not bad is it? must be quite a bit of protein and fibre in there, so anyway I've been enjoying these and I thought I'd just give them a little shout out so if you were looking for a little snacky gut bar that was good for you that wasn't just loaded with loads of sugar and protein or whatever it is then give it a go tell me what you think great, got some shout outs?

33:43Davina McCall: great

33:44Michael Douglas: um okie dokie so dominic franks sent us a massive thank you for giving him his book a big shout out so that's very nice so who's this let's have a little look here sam sam adams coach would love to be me a guest on your pod we don't have guests on our pod uh of course talking to me oh was she um but hey when it comes to tripping through life and navigating grief i'm the person to talk to I'm big into breath work and N System Shizzle I'm not sure I know what that is been delivering at Fern's Happy Place Festival this and last and also on her podcast well well done if we had people on our podcast Sam then you could be one of them Lara, what's this?

34:31Michael Douglas: Royal Albert Hall yesterday, just got back from a walk from your latest podcast and I had to share something with you we're talking about classical

34:39Davina McCall: Royal Albert Hall Ministry of Sound

34:41Michael Douglas: yeah in 2026 yeah we've already booked tickets and can't wait to be back there if you haven't already you have to check out the phenomenal from phenomenal Anna Lapwood we saw her there back during um the Zimmer versus Williams concert our first time in the iconic venue and what an unforgettable experience her performance was breathtaking we're there as a family to celebrate our son's 21st and when Anna played interstellar on the organ i felt the music through my entire body it was fully immersive an emotional moment that moves us all so much so that in fact i've since bought a piano and started playing again for 30 years lara well bloody done yeah really good hope to see you at the roll abet hall in 2026

35:25Davina McCall: oh i played some um piano today as well oh well done yeah i'm way behind on that

35:31Michael Douglas: um there you go can i show you something I can't read her that.

35:38Oh, is this the bonobo thing? Wow.

35:50Davina McCall: What?

35:54Is this the organ at the Royal Albert Hall?

35:56Davina McCall: No, she's just about to do it now. Yeah, I think so. Yes, at the Royal Albert Hall. Wow.

36:07Wow.

36:16Davina McCall: Wow. Brilliant. Can you imagine what a buzz that must be? This is from Liz Ballard. She says, hi, Davina and Michael. Oh, look, she's active now. Oh, active now. I really enjoy making the cut. Thank you. Current situation, shame moi. Prepping tea, listening to the allergies on my smart speaker. And what a great recommendation from last week's show, Liz Ballard. Oh, we're so pleased you like it. Thank you.

36:39Michael Douglas: Great. Right, folks, we're out of here. We will be with you next week. I think this might be episode nine, so episode ten we might do and have a little break for August. Yeah, great. And then come back in September, maybe. Yeah, I think that would be great. Yeah, we've got to do a little breather, couldn't we? But it's lovely to speak to you all, and we'll definitely speak to you next week. Brilliant. Have a great weekend.

36:56Davina McCall: Love you.

37:03Thank you.