SERIES 18: Episode 6 - Medicine Festival, Kurt Geiger, Hunt for the Wilderpeople, Brandon Flowers, Jessie Western

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0:36Oh, ladies and gentlemen, how are we all? Oh, hi. Hi. How are you doing?

0:41Davina McCall: That's quite funny. I've been with you all day. Mm-hmm. And I feel like I've just seen you in the eyeballs. We have just come back from the Medicine Festival. Shall we talk about that first? Yeah, yeah. Because, God, it was so good. Mm, it was brilliant. But I think it was like a closing summer ceremony for us. where we realised just how shattered we were. Yes. And all the fun we've been having actually has just got to come to an end. Yes, and it's time to go to work. I think also it's been amazing hanging out with lots of people because we work so hard. Let's not forget about that. We work day and night quite often.

1:19Well, our whole life is work.

1:21Davina McCall: Yes, and in the evenings we're prepping for work the next day and we're thinking about things or we're revising or learning or trying to, you know, support each other. And we don't have evenings either. It's so full on. So actually to go away to a festival is like a total switch off because there's no phones. You know, medicine had no Wi-Fi, no reception. It was heaven. It was a bit frustrating because I couldn't sign off, you know, because I got there and realised, oh, I'm now in the dead zone. and I looked at a couple of messages that had come through just before I'd landed and she said, can you get back to me AAC about this thing?

2:01And I was like, fuck. And then I was like, oh.

2:05Davina McCall: It's quite funny walking around trying to find Wi-Fi or an accidental bit of signal somewhere. Like two messages came in at about 4am, but nothing would send. So again, it was just requests, but no way to say I'm not around. So a lesson learned there really. but I need to sign off before I enter the dead zone. Next year. It's almost like one of those emails that you send out of office hours. Yeah, yes. I'm out of office. Yeah, yeah. Don't expect anything to monitor me. I wonder if WhatsApp can do, I'm out of office. We should do that. I'm offline. But yeah, we went to this medicine festival. It was an experiment, really, because it was very much more a relaxing, spiritual-type festival than the usual kind of party festivals that we're used to going to.

2:54um so we were like okay let's go and see what it's all about we we'd met the founder of the festival and we'd met the ceo and the ceo and stuff like that at various parties and things

3:05Davina McCall: around the summer everybody seemed so nice so nice it was a very big crew of us that went although it was very hard to find anybody but this is the funny thing about a festival i think if anybody's thinking of going to a festival for the first time it's a really good idea to to say to everybody, we love you. We may or may not see you. We may or not see you while we're here. And if we're meant to see you, we'll see you. I mean, we arrived with our friend Loren. But didn't see us after that. No, no, didn't see us at all. And we saw everybody that she was staying with. But just not her. But just not her.

3:40It's quite hard, wasn't it?

3:41Davina McCall: But I want to name check Remy. Yeah, of course. Remy really did an amazing job of organising the festival. and it's a it's a huge stress and you know she meets i think she said every week throughout the year not just just before the festival it's like all the time organizing thinking about things and they do put on really interesting talks they do daily meditations there's a yoga sound temple we we woke up the other day and we were really laughing because there was a at one of the kind of tents where they do yoga and stuff in the mornings was a thing happening where um it was obviously a sound a release a somatic kind of release of what's inside your body and they were doing laughing like kind of fake laughing like 50 people all fake laughing which made us laugh in our tent it was just so funny the interesting thing is it starts off fake yeah and then it turns into reality exactly that's a great example of how you create your own reality really and you it's like that statement i made a few weeks ago which is in order to get to sleep you have to at first pretend to be asleep um so in order to enjoy yourself you have to first pretend to enjoy yourself and then so it begins you know i mean that is mind-blowing yeah yeah but you are the creator of the future yes and we've talked about this quite a lot it's what kind of a future do we all want because it's up to us really it's not up to the big tech bros and all that they've

5:12Michael Douglas: created a framework and platforms for us to use yes but it's how we use them which will mean how they work you know if we use them for good they'll become propagators of good if we use them for hate they'll all become hateful you know it's up to us really you know and one last thing i'd like to say

5:28Davina McCall: about medicine festival that i really like is that it's alcohol free and as a non-drinker yeah it's really nice to be around a load of people that aren't drunk yeah yeah it's very um it's just great it was a very different vibe it was a very different vibe and there was a kind of forest covered area i felt i felt a bit for remy because it was so unbearably hot and thank god for the woods yeah it really was but you know there was such a high risk of fire yeah and dehydration and dehydration yeah i mean i must have drunk you know four or five liters a day over the weekend Just trying to catch up.

6:06It was intense. But great DJs and stuff. Galavant are played there and Dear Jade and people like that. So although it wasn't very ravey, you still had an element of all that really kind of nice dance music. But loads of like bongos and soundscape stages and stuff like that. Also talks about psychology and the benefit of meditation and trauma release and all of that kind of stuff. So it was absolutely something for everybody there, you know. it was great you know so it's tickets are already released for 2028 it's a by annual yes and on the

6:40Davina McCall: website it's incredibly helpful they tell you what to bring and what not to bring so there are quite a few things that are banned yeah but they give you some really good ideas of things to bring notebook and pen which was which would be really helpful yoga mat musical instruments like we had so much music in tents didn't it was absolutely lovely you'd walk past a tent and it would sound Sounds like there was an Amazonian tribal band in there, which in fact there potentially could have been. There was a lot of musical talent there. Oh, God, it was great. It was pretty brilliant, yeah. Oh, it's family friendly.

7:12Davina McCall: Yeah. Really important to say that. Loads and loads of kids, because you're not going to see loads and loads of spangled people there. That's what's different about it as a festival. It's about healing yourself and the world. Yeah. I think. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's very, very, very, very good. So there you go, the Medicine Festival. Go and check it out. Highly recommended. I have my Man Alive podcast that I did with Jeff Foster. Yes. This podcast drops on Friday. I think that drops the following Monday. I have no idea what I said in that podcast. You just can't remember. I'm just always talking, you know.

7:48Davina McCall: I don't think anybody ever can. No, okay. I think you have lots of conversations and you have a very broad scope of information to share. so it's not like you go well this is my message and I share the same thing every time no no you're forever evolving yeah um into the wisest man I know yeah well try yeah so I can't wait to hear it but anyway that comes out on Monday it's called Man Alive will you tell people what Dr who Dr Jeff Foster is again just in case they didn't hear that we talked about his book on episode one of this series from the Happy Place Festival it's called Optimum I think or Optimal

8:23Michael Douglas: and it's about how do you become your optimum self you know dr jeff boster is a male hormone doctor so he specializes in similar to dr louise newson is for women's hormones jeff specializes in male hormones so testosterone and stuff like that um interestingly he trained with Louise Newson's husband.

8:47Davina McCall: Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

8:49Michael Douglas: Who was a kind of expert, I believe, in male hormones as a result of injuries to the genitals. So people who stepped on landmines, soldiers and stuff like that. Because if you know that testicles, you can't produce testosterone, so you need to start putting it artificially. So Dr. Jeff Foster trained under him and became an expert as a result of helping him with the reconstruction of genitals that had been affected by landmines, etc, etc.

9:16Davina McCall: God, how amazing. Yeah, so he's a brilliant expert. Yeah, optimal, it's called, by Dr. Jeff Foster. I had a blood test with him. Oh, yeah, go on. Turns out I'm in tip-top condition, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, God, you're so annoying. He said every marker was spot on. Honestly, you, like, I am the queen of the quinoa, and I've got cardiovascular disease. I'm the king of fried chicken. You're the king of fried chicken, and you're absolutely clear. Turns out that that's what my body wants. You know what, though? You are genetically well-constructed. Your family are well-constructed. Yeah. Mine wasn't.

9:52That's very interesting. Apparently, my testosterone's a little low. It's down to about 15. What is the limit? 21, 30, I believe. 30's high. That's like an 18-year-old guy who cannot stop masturbating.

10:08Davina McCall: Yes. I'm definitely not that. where he said you're a bit low and he said you could potentially find you could pep that up a little bit. What do you think you're going to do? Not at the moment but perhaps early next year I might get another little test. And see where you're at. And just see where I'm at and see if I want to kind of go. Do you know what's nice? You've got a baseline. Yeah, I have. And you know how you feel now. It's been 15 for two years. And you know that that is quite low and if you feel like it's affecting you yeah and you don't now but you've got a baseline that's what's great about it i think it's better to know than to not know the interesting thing was that blood test was at nine in the morning had i done it at 11 i probably would have been under probably 13 or 12 so all the testosterone is produced when you're asleep so that's why you wake up with an erection in the morning oh is it yeah yeah yeah oh my god that is so good yeah that's how that's why it's there you know because your body's like flooded with testosterone due to all the rest but by the time 11 12 o 'clock comes around it all starts to get a bit depleted so if i had women are the same yeah well as you know when you get a blood test for your hormones it's different every time because depends when you get it done depends what's going on in your life and all that stuff so it's not constant it's dipping up and down really so it could well be i mean i often get to about three in the afternoon i'm just shattered you know um so it may well be that um if i did an average throughout the day.

11:35I might be coasting right about ten.

11:37Davina McCall: Yes. Yeah. So, anyway, I'm going to check into that and if I do end up on it, I'll

11:42Michael Douglas: talk about it on this podcast as an encouraging force for other people to check themselves out. Thank you. That's alright. So, anyway, that's Monday, Man Alive.

11:50Davina McCall: So, I would like to talk about Kurt Geiger. So, you know I'm a magpie. Cuckoo, cuchoo. Yeah. So, can I just say you're a very hot bird.

12:03More of like a parrot or something or something. Thank you. Thank you. Exotic. I'm an exotic parrot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

12:10Davina McCall: Did you like my Beatles reference there? Go on. I'm a magpie. Oh, yeah, yeah. Cuckoo, cachu. Cuckoo, well done. Thank you. So I have for ages walked past Kurt Geiger, looked in the window and thought, oh my God, look at the shiny things. But I've never gone in. Just because I've always been going somewhere else. Yeah. And it's been like, oh, I'll go another time I'll go another time the other day I was like I'm going in and I literally the girls that worked in there were like oh my god you're actually really cute I was like a six-year-old girl going oh oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh I mean I bought some trainers there that I don't know if there's anybody listening that's got little girls or boys but when my girls were little I got them in they got into not I got them into they got into Lely Kelly yeah okay and Lely Kelly were crystal embossed trainers for little girls and boys if boys want to yeah I went into Kurt Geiger and they basically had exactly that now I have just seen a new in trainer that I hadn't seen before that i'm also going to have to get and i haven't even worn my crystal trainer yet but i need these so i'm going to click on them now so basically the other crystals yes and they've got colorful laces and look they've got a small jelly tote bag to go with it's too much goodness so these trainers are 169 pounds and they have got the word curt written on the back the sole is crystal embossed yep the trainer is the laces are blue pale blue and pale pink and they go with the trainers they are a nice cut they've got a little bit of a heel they're supportive and the jelly bag would look amazing with it the jelly bag has got a strap and is carryable and would be great for holiday it's just oh my god and the jelly straps no stop i've got to stop the heels they look good the heels look amazing oh my god please michael stop got bursty coming up yes okay i won't get any of it yeah so can i just highly recommend kirk geiger is one of those shops where you will be looking at everything and marvelling and taking deep breaths.

14:47Davina McCall: They've got ridiculous slippers in. They're called Kensington slippers. They're£99 each, but they are furry with a furry sole and a furry top and they look unbelievably comfortable. They've got fringe biker boots. They've got amazing Chelsea boots. They've got stomper thick, chunky knee-high boots they've got crystal platform heels they've got I mean I've never seen a range that is so me ever in my life they've got a langley heel they've got brilliant boots it just goes on a fringe sandals this it's relentless so if you are looking for a shoe go to Kurt Geiger it's got everything you want if you are a little bit of a peacock And if you're not a little bit of a peacock, why don't you try being one?

15:40Davina McCall: Try being one with your shoes. Thank you. Just on the laundry. Oh, my God. I've never seen anything sexier. My husband has got the laundry. Yeah, we'll fold all that up. Get this through. Can I just say, I was just saying to women, I said, this is great if you're a peacock. But I said, if you're not a peacock, try being one with your shoes. People will notice. yeah yeah very good um great okay i mean it's your birthday coming up in october so i've got like a couple of couple of ideas you know where to go what i hate really is getting to like a week before your birthday and think fuck um so you've got ideas i like i'm feeding you ideas to get you something very meaningful i don't care i know money i know care about the thought and you are amazing at that well i'm going to try because i felt a bit disappointed in myself last couple of years and I thought can I just say don't be yeah no I know I've loved every birthday and all I really want to do is spend it with you yeah well that's a done deal I can wrap myself up and yes please unwrap me yes please oh my god wait wait wait I'm just gonna savor that for a minute yeah yeah really big bow and I'm gonna I'm gonna like peel it off gently and out I'll pop full of testosterone.

16:59Yeah, great. Too far. Have we gone too far? Yeah, I've gone too far.

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17:52We finished Rafa last night.

17:54Davina McCall: Oh my, oh my God. Yeah, and I know we've recommended it before, but it was great to get to the end of it. What a lovely journey about one man's life, you know. Unbelievable. Seeing him with his kids and his wife and everything towards the end and surrendering into a new life, you know, as a result of giving everything to this one thing. And I loved him at the end of it. Yeah.

18:18Michael Douglas: Oh, what a lovely man, you know.

18:20Davina McCall: Just writing down what we're talking about.

18:22Michael Douglas: He'd probably drive you mad to be married to, because he was so committed to this thing. But you knew he literally had six months left, and his life was never going to be the same again. And he had to, at some point, let go, you know. But I actually looked so happy at the end, to know that he did everything he could to be the person he knew he could be. And now he can go and live guilt-free. He did it all, you know. It's a beautiful thing. The other thing we did yesterday is we went to the cinema to rest. Yes, we did. And we watched Hunt for the Wilder People at the cinema yesterday. We've seen it before.

18:55Davina McCall: It's the 10-year anniversary.

18:57Michael Douglas: Yeah, okay. It's a beautiful film.

18:59Davina McCall: Yeah.

19:00Michael Douglas: The young lad in it is just great. Sam Neill, of course, who sadly passed away recently, was also in it. And Bella, the woman who plays the auntie, is just so good. The story is brilliant.

19:10Davina McCall: Oh, the auntie was amazing. Taika is so good. Taika is amazing, isn't he? It's brilliant. Not vegetables? No, not vegetables. There's another door.

19:18Michael Douglas: Yeah.

19:19Davina McCall: Guess what's through that door?

19:21Michael Douglas: Another door. Jesus?

19:24Davina McCall: Yes, it's Jesus.

19:26Michael Douglas: Chicky like that. Chicky like that.

19:32Davina McCall: Oh, my God. But also the other one who I thought was really good, and I don't know her name, was the police officer. Oh, great. Who wasn't a police officer. No, no, child welfare. She wasn't a police officer, but she was child welfare, but there was nothing welfare about her at all. She was just a bitch. And when she's going, no child left behind. God, it's brilliant. I wonder where, I'm just going to look on Just Watch, which we've recommended before. There'll be everywhere. But I want to just say where can we see it or where can we download it if it's not in the cinema? But it should be in lots of cinemas at the moment.

20:08Davina McCall: At the moment, it is, you can stream it on Prime Video. for subscribers and you can rent it on Apple TV and the BFI. Okay, great. And you can buy it from Sky, Apple TV Prime. And at the cinema, it's at Everyman, Picturehouse and some electric cinemas.

20:30Michael Douglas: Okay, great, great. Yeah, it's a great film. So if you're looking for something to watch, even if you've seen it before, I mean, I probably saw it eight years ago and I'd kind of forgotten a lot of it as well. Yes. how much fun it was and what a lovely way to spend the evening with you.

20:45Davina McCall: It was really good, so thank you. That's all right. Go on. I quickly want to, this is a very little one. Yeah, great. But if you are going away to something like a festival where you are going to be off grid for three or four days, I know we're kind of at the end of the summer now, so your festivals are probably nearly over, but I think there are a couple left. But if you're going to go to one, a brilliant tip for showering in public showers yeah yeah is to take a clear like netted bag so if you can hang it up in the shower it can get completely wet and it will just dry out because all the water drains out of it because i went online to try and find some mini travel toiletries and I found a fantastic bag on toiletryexpress.co.uk and I looked up travel toiletries set for women and it was branded minis.

21:43Davina McCall: So, for example, there is shampoo, conditioner, moisturiser, antiperspirant, toothbrush, toothpaste, mouthwash, body lotion, lip balm, sun care, shave care you know like it's just got everything tampons sleeping mask earplugs wet wipes wide tooth comb toilet like and a toiletry bag but the toiletry bag is for say if you are going abroad on holiday it's not for if you're in public showers because it's a it's a solid plastic bag so you can keep that for going on holiday but if you're going to a festival get the netting bag chuck it all in there that's great and it was super helpful wasn't it

22:25Michael Douglas: yeah it was brilliant good Yeah. There's a couple of things I want to talk about musically. First, I went to sleep last night listening to a kind of podcast thing on YouTube, and it's called Alchemy with Anthony Mason. I think he's a kind of famous TV broadcaster in America, but he interviews various pop stars and rock stars and stuff, but he did an interview with Anthony Mason.

22:57Michael Douglas: I've listened to that. I really like Brandon Flowers.

22:59Davina McCall: Yes, he is a lovely man.

23:01Michael Douglas: He seems like such a gentle, lovely person. The Killers are a brilliant band as well. Right up there, they've never really matched to the kind of U2 status or the Coldplay status, but for me they're easily up there. I think he's a brilliant front man, mega handsome, and I think the songs are way deeper and richer than a lot of people see them as, you know.

23:22Davina McCall: I think that's one of the problems that Brandon Flowers has, almost is his good looks. It's hard to break through as somebody serious with huge heart when you're that handsome. People just see you as a pin-up.

23:37Michael Douglas: Yeah. And he's more than that. He's so tall and lean and everything. He's like no percent body fat. He's such great. But what I really want to do is just recommend a couple of songs because this is his third solo album that's about to come out. So it's not a Killers thing. So if you're interested and you like some of the Killers stuff, then I do recommend have a little dive into the Brandon Flowers stuff. It's much more gentle songs, much more personal, much more meaningful. But there's a couple of songs I would recommend. Of his first album, which I think is called... Let me have a look. I think it's called Welcome to Las Vegas.

24:11Davina McCall: Michael.

24:11Michael Douglas: Yeah.

24:12Davina McCall: I love you.

24:13Michael Douglas: I love you too.

24:15Davina McCall: Yeah.

24:15Michael Douglas: Why'd you say that? What's going on? What do you want? You. You've got me. Yeah. He just sort of had like a wave Brandon So yeah, have a look up Brandon Flowers So Flamingo was the first record Shut up Yeah, I know And there's some great songs on that But it's really about him being from Las Vegas And all the different things So lots of songs about gambling and stuff like that Brilliant opening song called Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas And it goes Welcome to Fabulous Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas You see, that's a big sign when you get there. Welcome to fabulous Las Vegas. And there's a brilliant thing about the house will always win.

24:59Michael Douglas: You will never get out of Las Vegas alive, you know. And I think that was a metaphor for his life and all of that stuff. Yes. Anyway, there's a brilliant song on there called The Clock Was Ticking. And it's a kind of country and Western song about his life, about his mum and dad's life. And it's just brilliant. I've played it to you before. And it's a song about kind of him as a child and the teacher telling him something. and him taking that with him and realise it wasn't entirely true. And then, you know, he was a lot of kids and he ended up living with his grandma for a while, his grandma dies, and it's all this kind of, how do you make sense of this fucking crazy world when you're a young person?

25:35Michael Douglas: And, of course, he ended up working on a golf course. He was a bellboy at the Golden Nugget and everything, you know. And he just randomly answered an ad in a magazine that we're looking for songs by a guy called Dave Cooney. and Brandon had written, what's the big song? Coming out of my cage and I'll be doing just fine.

25:58Davina McCall: Oh, yes. Yeah, Mr. Brightside. Well done. And Dave Cooney had written a ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding.

26:04Michael Douglas: They didn't know each other or anything. They came together. Bang, that song came out. The whole lives were changed, you know. It's a brilliant, brilliant story. And then they went on to write, you know, When You're Young and all those massive, massive killers, and bombers. But anyway...

26:19Davina McCall: I'm still reeling from you teaching me about lyrics. It's great, isn't it? I know, I know. I can't believe it. Where have I been?

26:25Michael Douglas: The Clock Was Ticking is a brilliant, brilliant song and it's kind of country in its spirit, but it's such a great description. It's right up there with the Springsteen song.

26:36Davina McCall: Oh my God, wait. I love Spruce.

26:38Michael Douglas: Spruce Springsteen. Yeah, he's spruced everywhere.

26:41Davina McCall: Spruce Springsteen.

26:41Michael Douglas: And then his second album is called The Desired Effect.

26:44Davina McCall: Yes, that's the one I know a bit better.

26:45Michael Douglas: Track five on that is Between Me and You. I love that song. It's just a brilliant song, isn't it?

26:51Davina McCall: I really, really, really love that song.

26:53Michael Douglas: And his voice gets absolutely pushed to the limit. And if you try and sing along to a Brandon Flowers song, you realise there's no way. He's got such a range, you know, and he sings such a high pitch. You know, it's bloody brilliant. And then there's lots of other songs on that, but he's got a brand new album that comes out next week, I believe. There's three songs released from it at the moment.

27:14Davina McCall: That's a brilliant photograph. Oh, it's magic, isn't it? Thrasher. Yeah.

27:19Michael Douglas: I haven't listened to any of this record yet, but I am really looking forward to listening to it. But there's a lot of interviews with him at the moment, and if you're interested and you fancy dipping out of your current musical collection into something new and you haven't done Brandon before, then have a listen to the first two records and then enjoy the third one as and when it comes out. There you go.

27:40Davina McCall: Thank you. I'm really looking forward to that. And also thank you for the lyrics. Ah, it's a pleasure. I'm so grateful to you. So the last thing I want to talk about is Jessie Weston. Yep. Now she is on Portobello Road, sort of at the junction with Westbourne Grove, I think it is. If you're walking down Portobello Road, it's on the right-hand side, just at the junction with Westbourne Grove. And she sells all things Western. Okay. But all of it is mega. So the boots are expensive, but they are often handmade, unbelievable stitching and embroidery. It's not just a sort of cowboy boot made out of leather or pleather.

28:25Davina McCall: This is like the real deal. Unbelievable layering of leather and stitching. So I've been looking at a pair of navy cowboy boots, short with a buckle. They are£789. The moccasins are£700. but they are a kind of investment piece i love these ones um the black boots with the stitching yeah well they are kind of weathered leather in a way um but they look like they'd be super comfortable but i love the height of them they're kind of mid-calf um but they also have women's accessories so they've got things like belt buckles um belts look at the heart buckle on that they've got like little medicine pouch not sure what that's medicine for but anyway they've got like lovely beaded bags that are great for festivals if you if you're going to a festival they've got amazing beaded bracelets I love it's like a concho they're calling it but it's like a beautiful jacket it's a mixture between a coat and a poncho a concho oh my god that is exactly what it is um but the bags are all amazing so they've got they've got tons of stuff it's worth a look anybody that's interested in a slightly western but i've never it's never left me i grew up wearing cowboy boots and the whole western idea i think because american classics used to have these amazing western jackets with fringes across here in the 80s and 90s on king's road and it's never left me.

30:07Davina McCall: So if you're a fan of that, jesseweston.com or jesseweston.com, I would highly recommend you could go in and try things on and look at things. Or even if you're not going to buy anything, it's an amazing place to visit. Brilliant. I also just want to finish with one last thing. When we were ranging around in our tent at Medicine, because there was no Wi-Fi signal, I had a quick look through my music library to realise that we couldn't access any music other than what I had downloaded. Already downloaded, yeah. And I have this playlist called The Arctic Puppets, which is a mixture of The Arctic Monkeys and The Last Shadow Puppets and all my favourites.

30:43So I had that, but I realised, you know, you don't want to listen to the same thing over and over again. And then I found one other playlist called Coldplay Acoustic.

30:52Davina McCall: Oh, my God. It wasn't my playlist. It's one I just stole from Spotify.

30:56Michael Douglas: But anyway, we decided to put that on because there's lots of spiritual stuff in there and we were having a very spiritual experience. But there was a song that came on that kind of made you weep a bit.

31:03Davina McCall: It really did, yeah.

31:05Michael Douglas: So I want to recommend that. It's a brilliant song. It's off an album that is their least popular album. They never toured this album or anything. They did one concert, and that was the one that was done on the Citadel in Jordan, I think it was. Beautiful thing to watch. My God, it was stunning. If you ever want to watch something musical, creative and beautiful,

31:22Davina McCall: just go on to YouTube.

31:24Michael Douglas: And the album's split in two halves. It's Sunrise and Sunset. I think this is on Sunset, this particular song. and it's actually called Echo whether you pronounce it like that or not but it's a very almost religious song I suppose but it's a song of great comfort and love I'm going to play a little bit of it just so you make sure this is the one I'm talking about it's called Echo

31:57so nice

32:05Oh, it's just so good. There's a great line in it where he says something about a child. It's alright, child. It's alright, child. God, I was crying so hard. My God.

32:17Davina McCall: I mean, I think it was because we'd been talking about trauma. Yeah, yeah. And we'd gone to a talk about trauma in a day. Yeah, yeah. And we came across that song by mistake. and I'd been thinking about my own trauma and how I need to look it in the eyeballs. And I'd been slightly doing that. And then hearing Chris say to me, it's all right, child. Oh, God, I was finished. Yeah, yeah, it's very good. It's been a mad week. A mad summer, to be honest. Yeah, but like the last week in particular, I feel like you and I have had lots of realisations in a really good way.

32:56Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah, things to let go of. Yeah. OK, let's do a couple of shout-outs. Yes, great. Just to wrap things up. So, let me have a little look, something to shout-out. Love the Lightroom, thank you. Can you encourage twinings to go back to paper wrappers for their tea bags? They've changed to plastic foil-wrapped individual ones, and I don't think they are compostable. That is a message, Michaela, that is now out there in the atmosphere.

33:23Davina McCall: Yes, hold the line, caller, wait a minute. Keep talking.

33:25Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah, OK. Nikki Drew said, Hello Davina and Michael, I hope you're both well and enjoying the summer. I know I mentioned my friend was writing her memoir the last time I messaged with a recommendation. I just wanted to let you know that she, it's finished. And it's been released. And it's an absolute banger of a read. Claire Manumissions. Claire Manumissions. The Motel. Yeah. High Times. Oh, High Times in 90s Ibiza. Sounds great. as a friend of Claire's we've all chipped in with anecdotes and stories during this unique time in Ibiza knowing how you guys love the White Island I thought you and your listeners may enjoy one Manumission is back for the weekend at 528 in Ibiza the last weekend of September big love to you both and still listening oh my god this looks great I might have to get a copy of this so Claire manumission the motel high times in 90s obitha it's now a bestseller on amazon and thanks so much nikki drew we will definitely have a look at that and anybody who wants to read it and send in a message about it please do okay she's right no is she um i think it's also because um

34:38Davina McCall: they are doing quite a lot of boxes with multiple different types of tea in

34:43Michael Douglas: They seep into each other.

34:45Davina McCall: Well, and you need to be able to identify which is which. But it says on the packet, recycle box, do not recycle envelope. Ah, OK. So I agree.

34:57Michael Douglas: Yeah, well pointed out. Well pointed out.

34:59Davina McCall: And we will suggest that to them. Thank you.

35:03Michael Douglas: This is from Francis Donnelly. Hey, you two, please do a shout out for Fled... Can you read that?

35:11Davina McCall: Fled? Fleeder Cheol. Okay, I'm going to read how to pronounce that. I'm going to look it up. Okay, go for that.

35:19Michael Douglas: We had this in Belfast for the first time last week. Target football, 800 ,000, which would mean equating to the most successful... Fleeder today. I wonder if this is like Irish football. We did double 1.6 million. The atmosphere, talent, music for everyone, including both sides. it's come back in 2027 and my three sons all said they will book the whole week off you two would love it come and stay with us so proud okay our beautiful city i've got it go on

35:55Davina McCall: flakio flakio flakio flakio it's a music festival ah okay flakio i'm trying to work that out um

36:04Michael Douglas: Thank you, Francis Donnelly. We will look into that for 2027.

36:08Davina McCall: It means Feast of Music.

36:10Michael Douglas: How lovely. I think I've heard of this. I think Nick Cave might have played there and David Gray and people like that.

36:15Davina McCall: How brilliant.

36:16Michael Douglas: Yeah, very good. I just want to do a couple of readouts from Spotify because I like seeing what people say there. So last week episode, always in, this is Michaela Grimsey. Always enjoy listening to you both. Voices are so soothing. soothing.

36:34Davina McCall: Yours is particularly, I think. Yeah, a bit croaky at the moment. It's even better croaky.

36:39Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah. And then Mary Callaghan says, have you tried Barry's Irish tea with milk? It is so refreshing.

36:46Davina McCall: I'm going to try and get some of that. Thank you.

36:49Michael Douglas: Okay, folks, that's us for this week. We love you. Now, this is episode six. What I did say is that we would do six episodes and have a break. What do you think about that? Should we take a couple of weeks off and come back in September? Yeah. Yeah, we could probably do with a break. Let's come back in September and save up some really good stuff. Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah, it's a good idea. Give us a chance to replenish. We can replenish our ideas. Enjoy the things we talk about. Enjoy the music we've presented to. And it's like term beginning again in September. September. Let's start in September.

37:18Michael Douglas: So maybe I'm going away the weekend of the 6th. And I'll be away at Disney.

37:24Davina McCall: Why don't we do it after we get back from those trips? Okay. Mid-December, 15th of September, I mean.

37:29Michael Douglas: Yeah, 15th September, something around that. We will kickstart again. But please get in touch with us on Instagram and all that stuff. Keep sending stuff to you. We now have Harriet, who is the CEO of Making the Cut. Yes, Harriet. And it'll give her time, actually, to get some of this stuff on YouTube.

37:44Davina McCall: Yeah.

37:44Michael Douglas: And we're going to start to feed all these episodes into an AI, so you can talk to that AI.

37:49Davina McCall: And so you can look up. When did they talk about this? What did they say about it?

37:52Michael Douglas: Different episodes, like what were the top ten films we talked about for the last three years or something. Yeah. So you can start to control the content, really. I'm going to be watching.

38:01Davina McCall: Yeah, yeah, me too.

38:02Michael Douglas: We'll also try and get all this on YouTube and start to get the business a bit more refined so it'll help you and also find a venue to start doing some lives. Yes. Okay, we love you all.

38:12Davina McCall: I love you as well. Yeah, I love you too. Yeah.

38:14Michael Douglas: All right, take care, everybody. Bye.

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