SERIES 16: Episode 4 - People's Postcode Lottery, i360, Harry Baker, Dr David Hawkins, Ateh Jewel Beauty, mdlondon

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0:37Hello ladies and gentlemen Hello Welcome to Making the Cut Making the Cut We didn't do a video last week We forgot Oh god Do you know we've got to do it straight away Yes we do After we finish today Now we can at least remember what it is we've talked about Yes And last time we did this You were about to go live in York I think Yes Just as we'd finished the podcast, I read out a message of somebody who was coming, just about to come and see you from a meeting group. So she's messaged at the end, so I'm going to read that out.

1:06Davina McCall: Oh, great. But she was delighted. She had a lovely time. Apparently you were very good. I must try and advertise these talks a bit better. Yeah. I don't really make us big song and dance about them, but I really enjoy doing them. Mm-hmm. And... You do a big song and dance when you're there. Yes, I do. I thought you did. Yeah. And at the end, we do a big song and dance to Ken. You can do it. Yes. I mean, so I'd heard. It sounds great. It was really, really good fun. What kind of things should you talk about at these things? I talk a bit about how I got into TV, why I got into TV, how I negotiated having a tricky mother.

1:44I talked a little bit about myhorridparent.com. Oh, yeah, yeah. OK. So there's a bit of this podcast in there. I try and give a lot of tools. so anything that I have used to help myself and to stop people feeling shame or embarrassment

2:02Davina McCall: I mean I felt a lot of shame around being estranged from my mum because other people couldn't handle it and you know nobody has your experience of your parents yeah and you know I tried very, very hard again and again and again to get my mum to see you. To see me. And actually she sold a couple of stories on me which was very painful and hurt my sister beyond belief. And in the end I just thought, you know what? I've got to stop trying because it's killing me. It was making me sick. It's not serving you. Let it go. Very good. So I just tried stuff like that. How I got famous, you and me. Lots of people want to talk about that.

2:49Obviously, brain tumour, breast cancer. Everybody wants to know how I negotiated that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Just so people know, we're actually away in Brighton at the moment. We're recording this on a phone because we haven't got all the equipment with us. So forgive the audio. It's not that great. But we're doing our best. We're in Brighton because you're working on the People's Postcode Lottery thing. Yes. Which is, I really love this company.

3:16Davina McCall: But also, the People's Postcode Lottery is an amazing organisation. I interviewed somebody today who was a huge winner. And I said to her, look, what would you say to somebody who's considering playing? And look, I do have to say, People's Postcode Lottery does pay me as an ambassador. Yeah, yeah. So I'm just putting that out there. But I interviewed this woman, and they don't pay her, although they have just given her a cheque for£400 ,000. £400 ,000. which he won but what's interesting is that it is a donation to charity remember that and this money is given to charity but also when somebody wins anybody that's got a ticket on their street they also win big so so well on that street if you're on the same street you're in the same postcode but i i think like it is everybody kind of benefits yeah like so an entire area when we went to Tiverton in Devon at Christmas, an entire area gets an influx of millions of pounds.

4:22Davina McCall: And then that helps the entire economic profile of that area.

4:26Michael Douglas: So how it seems to work is that there is an allocation of money to a very specific postcode. If you have bought a ticket and you are in that very specific postcode, you win the maximum amount that you can, divided by however many people have got tickets. And then as it spreads out and you get a bit further away, the amounts get less and less. Yes, so when you drop a digit off the postcode, the amount goes down. Yes. Again, spread out across a further area. I mean, that's extraordinary. I think it drops down to four digits of the postcode and then everybody gets a final share of that. Huge sum goes to a charity.

5:04Davina McCall: We were at this reveal and the lowest amount that got divvied up was 13 and a half grand. 18. Oh, I thought it was£13 ,500. No, because some people bought two tickets, and it was£37 if you bought two tickets. But£18 was the smallest amount anybody warned of. I mean, that is crazy, right? People fell to their knees sobbing. It was amazing to be there. Yeah, yeah. But each ticket's capped at under half a million. I believe there's some legal restrictions about it. But if you buy two tickets, you can then officially get£1 ,000. But what was interesting was we weren't going to recommend that. No. We just have.

5:42Yeah, we just recommended it. I buy two tickets. I asked the owner, because we have done a bit of work, am I allowed to buy a ticket? And he said, yeah, sure. So. I'm not sure if I am. Well, he said you would be. Really? It's completely unfixable. You couldn't fix it. That's true. So I've got four tickets. I mean, it's a donation, isn't it? Yeah. I've got four tickets. Wow. I know. Four? Yeah. Well. Amazing. London and 12th. Oh, nice. To it each. Wow. Let's go, go, go. Go, go, go. So anyway, that's the first recommendation. Get yourself a People's Postcode lottery ticket if you fancy. And also, can I just recommend Brighton?

6:22Oh, yeah, we're in Brighton.

6:22Davina McCall: We're in Brighton. What is this amazing construction that your friend has built? I think she's called Sarah Willingham. Yeah. And she was one of the Dragon's Den ladies. She made a lot of money out of restaurants and, I think, alcohol. I think she has her own alcohol brand and stuff like that. Anyway, during lockdown, she was struggling to get her hair coloured. So she got in touch with me on Instagram and said, could you help me? And I was like, absolutely, I'll help you. Bye. You know, Garnier number seven, do your roots, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, she contacted me back and said, that was absolutely so helpful.

6:53Thank you. And then she's asked me to do her hair a few times, but I've never been able to. Anyway, she's a very successful local entrepreneur. And I believe her business is this IC360, which is this huge tower in Brighton on the seafront that you can get in like a giant bagel. and it rides up the top of the tower. I have no idea how high it is, but it is bloody high. We are going on it tomorrow. Here we go. I've got my booking here, so let's see what it says. So is she a barrister? No. Sarah Willingham. Oh, Willingham. Yeah. No, she's an entrepreneur, a businesswoman. But a mega one, you know.

7:30Okay, I found her. Yeah. Oh, I know who she is. Yeah, yeah, we met her on the way to Brighton. Yeah, she's brilliant. To Ibiza, yeah. So it's 138 metres up, which is bloody high. Yes. I don't know what that's in feet, but it's a mega, mega view from up there. So I'm really looking forward to it. So we're on it tomorrow at about one o 'clock before we head back to London. So we'll take some pictures and stick it on the Insta page for everybody to see. She's absolutely brilliant. I think it's 20 quid a ticket, I think is roughly. So it's 40 quid for both of us to go. So in 2025, Sarah and her husband, Michael, acquired Brighton's iconic tower, the 1360, out of administration.

8:12Wow. Great. We're going tomorrow. Yeah. Well done, Sarah and her husband. It's a beautiful building. So it's over 450 feet tall. And it's got a little restaurant, hasn't it? I think you can eat in there. Or it looks like you can definitely have a drink or something. It's beautiful. They're doing Valentine's Day up there and stuff like that. all looks good so well done and if you're coming to Brighton have a look at that we went out for a lovely meal tonight oh my god it was so good simple it was called HK Noodles yeah HK Noodles and it was on Preston Street and

8:47Davina McCall: and we just want to thank the man in the sauna yeah we met a guy in a sauna who recommended it to us we went there tonight it was 38 quid for us both to eat it was very nice it was banging it was banging yeah so have a check that out if you fancy that okay I'd like to recommend And you know Harry Baker? I do. So Harry Baker is a poet. And I happened across his poem called Trying. And it was, I mean, a good 10 minutes long. And I posted it on my Instagram, on my grid.

9:19Michael Douglas: Yeah.

9:19Davina McCall: And it got millions of views. Like, people loved it because it moved them so much. but harry baker has this amazing gift for making you weep and then laugh in in a nanosecond yeah and you're not quite sure how you've done that but he can do that with great ease so harry baker has written a book of poetry and it's called tender and it's 100 poems for the first 100 days of life and he also let me use his poem um trying for birthing so i'm very grateful to him yeah i just would highly highly recommend watching him on youtube type in um harry baker videos on on your phone search that watch him reciting his poetry he is doing a tour i think of the uk at the moment go see him wherever you can and buy the book and gift it to everybody you know they will have you giggling and weeping in equal amounts it's it's all the feels yeah good um i don't know who i am i'm i'm now recommending poetry a lot you know like donna ashworth and yeah yeah um and harry it's like harry baker's now this weekend we were going through our desks and you pulled some books off your bookshelf by your desk

10:46Michael Douglas: and you put them down. And one of them glimmered. Did you not have someone on your podcast talking about glimmers? I did. Right, so I'm aware of the glimmering technique, which is when something catches your imagination. It could be a word or a phrase or a song or a piece of music or a poem or whatever it is, or a person or a car, then you should acknowledge it consciously and take it somewhere with you.

11:11Davina McCall: That is so true.

11:13Michael Douglas: And then you will find out somewhere down the line why it glimmered at you, because it will synchronise up with something else in the future. Now, I've done this for years, like, since I was a kid, I would say. Anyway, when I noticed this book, it's a red, it's a white and yellow book, and it had the word David R. Hawkins on it, which I probably mistook for Dawkins, because there's a D and a Hawkins in there, you know. And I like Dawkins, you know, so I was a bit like, oh, what is this book? and then it's called Letting Go, The Pathway of Surrender. And I was like, oh, yeah, okay, this is a bit self-helpy.

11:48Michael Douglas: I'm always a bit cautious of self-helpy books, you know. But anyway, there was just something about it that I thought I will have a little read of that. Now, just for context, I read a book about every two years, to be honest. I don't read books at all. I will listen to a book, the Bruce Springsteen book I listened to rather than read. and I can't actually remember any book I read before that. It was probably Bonnell's book and that was probably a year before that. I haven't got the time and I also have not had the patience and my brain doesn't really suit books. Anyway, I sat down and I read the, what's it called, the preface?

12:26Michael Douglas: The forward. And then I think maybe there's a preface after that. And I was in. I was like, oh my God. I've been my glimmer has sucked me in already so I've also downloaded it as an audio book and I listened to it when I went to bed the other day so I'm further on with that so I'm probably about out of chapter 5 or something but I'll give you a little bit of the blurb letting go describes a simple and effective means by which to let go of the obstacles to enlightenment and become free of negativity during the many decades of the author's clinical psychiatric practice the primary aim was to seek the most effective ways to relieve human suffering in all of its many forms.

13:08Michael Douglas: The inner mechanism of surrender was found to be of great practical benefit and it's described in this book. So one of the things I've discovered about myself over the last few years, I would say, probably the last six years, is that I think I have inadvertently let go. It's very difficult to articulate what that means. What I'm finding helpful about the book is that it's describing the mechanism which I've already discovered but it's helping me understand what it is that I've done so I don't really know how

13:37Davina McCall: I've done it I just know that I've done it I don't know how you've done it but I can see that you don't try and control anything in your life it can you put one foot in front of the other you will go towards something and you will what you know do something in order to try and get an outcome but if you don't get that outcome you're not freaking out yeah you think okay I'll try something else or I'm going to go down another. There's none of this forcing outcomes or freaking out. If you don't get the outcome you want, you can just let go of everything.

14:07Michael Douglas: Yeah. Well, I don't remember who said it, but somebody said, if you want to live, you know, a courageous, adventurous life, tell the truth, let go of the outcome.

14:15Davina McCall: Oh yes.

14:16Michael Douglas: Watch your life improve. So I tried that and that's largely what's led me to this place. But if anybody's interested in that kind of idea. I'm not a big fan of self-help books.

14:27Davina McCall: Why aren't you?

14:28Michael Douglas: I can often find them a bit patronising and they don't necessarily take into account, I think, a lot of the psychological issues that people are suffering with. I think a lot of the general mechanisms of self-help books are very practical and make sense. But that's not enough to help people actually do the things necessary. Yes. so I'm far more interested in a much more spiritual approach to these things that require a person to have this large piece of self-discovery to then move on to the kind of self-love that's required to move yourself into a new place a book doesn't do that I think it's something else that happens inside you

15:14Davina McCall: I do think sometimes though self-help books can plant ideas

15:18Michael Douglas: yep I think I'm only talking about personal experience Yeah, there was an idea that came from, I can't remember which self-help book it was, but it was a very, very famous one. And it was talking about postponing gratification, delaying gratification. Yeah.

15:35Davina McCall: That do the thing you don't like first. Yeah. And then you'll always get that done because you'll reward yourself for the thing you like after. I mean, I know that sounds very obvious, but at the time, it was obvious, but I never did it. Yeah. And then I started doing it and it changed my whole life. Yeah, good. And these are little things that I have learnt sometimes from a self-help book. But I do know what you're saying about the whole general thing of your life. They don't know you.

15:59Michael Douglas: Yeah, yes, yes. I often think the book, the self-help book, is mainly helping the author.

16:05Davina McCall: Yes, OK.

16:06Michael Douglas: And that's what I see when I read them sometimes, you know. Yes. I'm like, yeah, yeah, the only person this is helping is you. What this bookshare should say is, if you want to help yourself, then write a self-help book, you know.

16:17Davina McCall: Yes.

16:18Michael Douglas: I'm a bit like, I can see the mechanics of this. This, on the other hand, feels like a completely different game, like a deeply spiritual book. But you think that's because he's a psychiatrist? Yes, I think so. But anyway, I'm enjoying it and I'm going to recommend it, people. If you're interested in reading something a bit hippy-dippy spiritual and letting go, then buy it, letting go, buy it. Dr David Hawkins.

16:45Davina McCall: I am going to talk about something much lighter. Yeah, OK. but you know Atte Joule I do yeah yeah I know her very well so Atte Joule and I sat next to each other the other day at an awards thing it was the headresting awards thing I thought you'd do that and she told me about her beauty products and she sent me her rouge slash kind of lips and she has basically got a shop that has entirely sold out that is how good her product is oh is it yep Completely. I have got the Watson's Watermelon and I use it on my cheeks and my lips. And the thing is with it, she's made it for all different coloured skins, obviously.

17:36Davina McCall: Lip and cheek, but it's got a glow to it. It's very easy to apply. The colours are amazing. But Atte, if you're listening, can you just hurry up and make some more because you're really missing out here. they are 25 quid but they last for ages and it does everything yeah yeah you can dab it on your eyelid for a little bit of like um color and highlight around the eyes i put loads on my cheeks i put some on my lips i mean i just put it bloody everywhere so well done ate it's an absolutely brilliant product and i hope you get a re-delivery very soon if you want it and you're interested in finding out when she gets restocked go join the wait list on at a jewel beauty.com that is spelt a-t-e-h jewel j-e-w-e-l beauty.com and that's all one word at the beginning um i

18:28Michael Douglas: would like to recommend my new products that are launched on monday oh my god finally get to

18:34Davina McCall: recommend my own thing shush wait oh my god shut up no michael yeah yeah can i talk about this yeah of course okay so okay everyone that's listening i'm very excited about talking about this because i think it's nicer when somebody else talks about your product because you don't sound like you're doing the hard sell so i just want to say i have been the guinea pig for these products and even before michael began making electrical products electricals for your hair he was making styling products and he's had styling products in the pipeline for at least four or five years but then they kind of got put on the back burner because the electricals were going so well and um now they've come back out of hibernation they smell like the best literally people walk past us using those products and go oh my god what was that smell they smell so good he's going to make a candle which is crazy i get it tomorrow it's going to be oh my god seriously yeah okay we can talk about that next week i mean in particular the number five anyway that they are called the numbers and they're called the numbers because if you said to your friend um oh listen could you get me some styling stuff um the hair styling stuff while you're out could you get me the extra frizzies the diddler some blow dry dry dry shampoo thing pink style bottle from the whatever it's so complicated but actually if you said to your friend could you get md london one and three that is how complicated it gets yeah so once you have found your numbers the point is you just need to know your numbers i know that mine are one three and five but if you've got curly hair there might be something else now at the moment we've got um six numbers coming out but then in september we've got seven to twelve coming out oh my god seven is going to blow your mind that's great oh my god it's so good we used it again today and we're going to use it again tomorrow and I can't wait to see what it does tomorrow but we've been by the sea and I have had no frizz yeah and somebody steamed my dress that I was actually wearing and my hair still didn't go frizzy with all of that steam from steaming my dress anyway that's number seven that's coming out in September but the numbers are fantastic so say for example number one you will get to know is a leave-in conditioner kind of almost like a styling treatment like an air

21:01Michael Douglas: dry cream yeah kind of an air dry yeah yeah you can air dry with you and blow dry um number three

21:06Davina McCall: i know because these are my numbers is a mousse um and that is brilliant very light don't need too much put it in absolutely brilliant number one and three together fantastic don't even dry your hair just put it in your hair and go yeah then five is like a like a texturizing kind of spray but I think six is the waxing thing and then is two.

21:30Michael Douglas: Two is the good all around the blow-dry spray. So if you want to blow dry your air, smooth body, volume, frizz free and shine, one and two together. You want curls it's one and three.

21:40Davina McCall: And is four volumizing?

21:41Michael Douglas: Four is hairspray. Five is texturizing, six is this little kind of serum wax. Any of the combinations of these six products give you pretty much any hairstyle you could ever imagine you know i don't really need any any other products than this we're bringing out seven to twelve as some additional things because people like a serum and oil a dry shampoo humidity wall spray you know that kind of thing so we've got all the things coming out they are brilliant but they launch on our website mdlondon.com on monday and i think you'll probably ought to buy three for two or something like that you do have to buy if you're buying them direct from us because of the shipping costs and everything are you talking

22:17Davina McCall: about this coming Monday? This coming Monday. They launch on mdlandon.com. The press launch is on the 12th of Feb and it'll go nationwide into Boots on the 1st of March. Oh my god! It's about 160 sores across the country. Oh my god! So if you want to buy just one single product then probably wait to go to Boots but there'll be a big deal and offers on our website and then I'm going to try and do this little free candle that'll go with it. Yeah great. A gift with purchase type thing but the fragrance is knockout. Knockout. And what I also love is because of the what because of what they're called like if you were gonna buy one product from your range and michael has made it that the one product that you should buy from his range if you were only gonna buy one is called the one yeah i think that's so good yeah yeah i mean it's just so clever and the other thing i should mention is there's a little uh ethereal design on the front of the bottle with a little qr code in the middle of an all-seeing eye so there's a little spiritual vibe going on there but that little qr code will take you to my ai the knowing where you can have a full-blown conversation with me on whatsapp about anything you want to know about the products about your hair and you can ask how to use the product what should you use it with what other products would it go with from your range like everything anything to do with your hair you could chat about the products but you could also say oh my hair's a bit thin and flat what is the best way to get volume in it what would be the best tool the best brush what technique what haircut would suit me best.

23:43Davina McCall: Yeah, exactly. You can ask it anything. So we've got this kind of, it's not just a product, it's some kind of interactive portal into the world of everything and anything you'd want to know about hair but were afraid to ask. Thank you. You're amazing. Well, we'll see about it. I'm so proud of you. No, Michael, we're all proud of you. All your listeners here are making the cut. We are Team Michael and we are like cheering you on all the way. We're so excited for you. I know I'm speaking on behalf of everybody. I literally know that. Anyway, yes, we've got some shout outs. Yeah, let's see if I can find a few in the generals.

24:23Let's start with Emma Cuthbert, who you had seen. So she sent me this message and I said, I didn't read this out last week's episode. Damn. She is just about to do a meet and greet. There she is with you in York. Oh, I loved her. Yeah, yeah. So you've met her a few times. Oh, Emma Cuthbert. Yeah, yeah. That was Emma Cuthbert. Yeah. But she's like a regular. Yeah, she is. She's been at the million pound drop. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, I didn't really get that, Emma. She had a great big message here, which I'll read all of it out, but her mum and dad had separated a few years ago and she's found the relationship with dad very painful and difficult, although she has just got back in touch with her dad and they're reforming their relationship.

25:06But she just wants to say thanks again for an absolute brilliant evening, evening for all those lovely summers coming to see the million pound drop and you give the best hugs which I know I know all about that um so brilliant so thanks Emma for getting in touch and sending that lovely message uh let's have a little look here um oh so a few people have recommended I've I've already I've been talking to him oh have you yeah I've already like I've reposted him on my account. Yeah, okay. And I have... But wait. Yeah, yeah. I just want to go back to him a second. Yeah. Because he has got an account called reasontostay.co.uk.

25:48But wait, what he wants is letters from normal people to strangers, which is giving them a reason to stay. Reason to live, essentially. Yes. His brother killed himself. Yes, I've seen the post, yeah. He's found a positive way to remember his brother

26:09Davina McCall: and to honour his brother and his brother's life and to try and save someone else's. And it is absolutely brilliant. 160 ,000 letters, more than 160 ,000 letters, he said. So I'm going to do one. And it's called I Am Ben West, is that right? Yes, I Am Ben West, yeah. And reasons2stay.co.uk is the website if people want to get in touch with that. Yeah, well done. It popped up in my feed as well. and I thought the poster was beautiful. It's beautiful, isn't it? So this is Nicola Good 05 says, Love you guys, you cheer me up every episode. Been a listener from Preston for a long time. Rafters, oh my God.

26:46Rafters customer in the past, Michael. What?

26:48Michael Douglas: Oh, wow. Love the autobiographies too, so we'll definitely read, listen to your Bruce Springsteen recommendation. I recommend Bono's Surrender and Green Lights by Matthew McConaughey. I've not read that, but loads of people have raked about that. No, no, I haven't either. I might forget that. Both full of fantastic uplifting lessons. P.S. Thanks for beginning again too. It'd have been a fantastic podcast. I'm glad you like it. Love, love, love all the way. Bit of Ram Dass in there. Well done, well done. I love the way you just said Ram Dass. Ram Dass, yeah. Lizzie Lincoln has also posted reasons to stay as well.

27:22So it's really made a big impact. So thanks so much for sending that. Just want to say a big thank you to Michael for talking about imposter syndrome last week. We did this a couple of weeks ago, do you remember? Yes. I listened and I was about to become a trainer and begin training group of new Samaritans after five years of being a Samaritan myself. And I was having a bit of a wobble with major imposter syndrome. Your comments were so true that it's great to push yourself out of the comfort zone. And you've made me feel so much better. Thank you. Love, Nikki. Oh, that's so good. And also well done, Nikki, for doing that.

27:55What a beautiful thing to do to give back. Yeah, well done. So five years of actually being a Samaritan, of actually training up people to do that. So well done, you. Oh, this one looked like quite a good one. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So this is, oh, what's a grown-up anyway? It says, hi, guys, not sure if this is the right way to go about this, but wonder if I might send you a couple of copies of my book, What's a Grown-Up Anyway? It follows my four-year exploration into what it might be to be a grown-up. It's raw, vulnerable and beautifully told with stories that made me laugh, cry and reflect. No expectations to review, but would love to get it in front of you on the off chance you might like it, as much of others have.

28:34So it's a great little picture, I assume, of your kid there. Here's my son posing with it. What's a grown-up anyway? So I've said, yeah, great, just send it to my studio and we'll have a little look at that. But that sounds great. What's a grown-up anyway? I would like to read that, because it would be nice to know.

28:51Oh, yeah, the mini chainsaw. Someone said here, loving, love living. Listening.

28:57Michael Douglas: Oh. Love Living at Shady Oak is asking for a picture of the chainsaw. I'm going to see if I can post that this week. Very good. Loads of great little shout-outs there from everybody. Thank you very much indeed. And we will definitely post a video this week. Yes, we will definitely do that and we should do it right now. Yeah, we'll do it now. But, yeah, nice to talk to you all. It was lovely to talk to you all. Just see if there's something else. I feel like there's something else I was going to see. splits, DJ decks no, I'm going to buy some new DJ decks I'll tell you about that when I bought them I'm going to buy some new speakers but I'll tell you about that when I buy them as well yeah, okay, great, we're good to go lots of love everybody, love you bye

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