SERIES 17: Episode 4 - Poppies, Rachel Jackson, SoulCycle, JBL Speakers, Bandsintown

0:00Music

0:05Yeah well what you can hear there ladies and gentlemen is the Coke Zero being poured into her and it's full of ice. Yes. She loves a Coke Zero does this one. I do.

0:18Michael Douglas: Yeah. Yeah. I don't have a problem with it. I like Coke Zero. It's funny how Coke Zero is really taken over from Diet Coke. I mean in quite a major way I think. It's much nicer. Have you tried a full fat Coke recently? I can't. Have you tried one recently? I can't. Could you try one? No. Why not? Just the sweetness of it. I don't mean drink the whole thing. It's too much. Would you have a mouthful? Why? Why? Just so I can see your reaction. Just want to see what your face does.

0:56and also how annoying I'd be for like ages afterwards why what do you mean oh hello Michael this is so exciting I've got so much sugar in my body it is quite mad I had a full

1:06Michael Douglas: fat coke about a month ago yes a mouthful yes and yeah it wasn't very nice I didn't like it really I'm so attuned yes to coke zero now yes took me a while to get you into it though didn't it? I felt like. I thought Coke Zero meant zero sugar, zero caffeine. It doesn't. I don't know what Coke Zero means even. I mean, there's a calorie in it, I think. I don't think there

1:35Davina McCall: is a calorie in it.

1:36Michael Douglas: Let me have a little look. All right. I've got a little glasses on here. Let me have a look. Energy, 1.3 kilojoules. Yeah, one calorie in a can. They're lying. 1K Cal, it says. I loved it because you went, I've got glasses on. So have you. Yeah. I was like, it doesn't make any difference. She's got them on as well. And there's a tiny bit of salt in it. But essentially, that's about it.

2:04Davina McCall: Caffeine?

2:04Michael Douglas: Quite mad, isn't it? Contains a source of something. Can't read that. Felly, fennel something or other.

2:12Davina McCall: Fentanyl.

2:12Michael Douglas: Caffeine, yeah. Caffeine flavouring. That's weird. Yeah, caffeine flavouring. So I'm a little bit anxious about drinking it before bedtime. I'm very sensitive to caffeine. I had my last coffee at like 12.30.

2:29Davina McCall: I'm so not sensitive. Shall I look it up?

2:31Michael Douglas: Yeah, when do you put it in? Google will be able to tell me. Chat GPT it. I don't know why I was thinking that, but I saw this thing on Instagram this week and it slightly melted my brain. Oh, God. What?

2:42Davina McCall: Yes.

2:44Michael Douglas: Then it's caffeine.

2:45Davina McCall: Typically 34 micrograms. per 12 ounce. It's not a caffeine-free beverage, but it has less caffeine than Diet Coke and significantly less than a standard cup of coffee. Well, I hope so, because I've had four in the last hour. I think a standard cup of coffee is about 120 micrograms or something like that. So 34 is fine. You'll probably still get to sleep with any luck. With only luck for you. Yeah, I know.

3:11Michael Douglas: You get a bit chatty sometimes, just as I'm thinking I'm going to drift off. I stayed at the studio tonight. I got myself fish and chips from Poppies on Old Compton Street. Oh, yeah, tell me about Poppies. Is that who you're recommending? Poppies is my favourite chip shop in London. Oh, is it? Yeah. Wow, big statement for you. It's a big statement. I said in London. It's not the best in the country by any stretch of the imagination. Oh, where's the best in the country so far? My favourite is the Silvery Tay in Dundee. Is that where I went, where they were deep-frying pizzas? Yeah, and pies. Yeah, amazing.

3:46They get a chicken and mushroom pie, dip it in batter and deep fry the pie in a battered crust. I mean, Jesus, it's pretty hard. But the chips are off the charts. The haddock as well is good and the white pudding is good.

4:02Michael Douglas: And they do a little portion of curry sauce there as well, which is also good. Can we do a shout out for Helen Douglas? Yeah, we can do a shout out for Helen Douglas. I don't know if my mum listens to the podcast or not. Or she'll listen to this one because we're going to give her a shout out. Yeah, I love you, mum. Hello, Helen. Hello. I'll hopefully come and see you soon or get you on a flight down here. Yeah, I saw this thing on Instagram this week and it said, the brain doesn't care what it learns. Yes, you mentioned that to me and it slightly blew my mind. I had to ask you what it meant even.

4:34But then when I got it, it's just hungry for information. It is.

4:40Michael Douglas: It's looking for things. Yes, to learn. To learn. and then I try and divide my brain up into two things. You've got the brain, which is like the supercomputer, and then you've got your conscious mind, the thing that you should be aware of what you should be teaching your brain rather than just letting it randomly attach itself to any idea. And I guess how conscious you are, how aware you are of things that are going on are probably crucially important. But you know, like you meet people and they have some kind of mad ideas or they've latched onto something mad, like conspiracy theorists and stuff like that.

5:15Yes, yes. That's where the brain is essentially latched on to an idea that's not necessarily true, but it likes it. Or an ideology. Yeah, yeah. And it's trying to unpick something and think through it.

5:27Michael Douglas: Yeah, and what happens to the person's brain is it then starts to occupy a belief in the idea, and then the idea becomes reality. So it, like, forms a neural pathway. then this neural pathway becomes habitual and then it becomes fact. Yeah, it literally becomes a belief system. That is entrenched. Yeah, that you believe is true. Yes. Don't tell me just how vulnerable the brain is. Oh my God, Michael. It is, I mean, after my operation, I have now really come to respect how vulnerable my brain is and how much I must take care of what it sees and what I subject it to. So, I mean, I think we've talked about this before, but changing my phone's algorithm was an important part of taking care of myself.

6:20Mentally healthy. Yes. And how, especially after breast cancer, I felt so vulnerable in terms of my safety that any violence or anything I saw online made me feel even more unsafe. and I was perceiving it in a completely different way from the way I used to before I got sick and it made me realise that and then I had to really think to myself you're safe this is just stuff you're seeing online you are not in mortal danger and I changed all the accounts that I follow and I now feel much happier yeah good yes because I guess your brain could convince you that

7:03Michael Douglas: the violence you're watching is right outside your door ready for you you know and then all sorts of things but I thought I'd just mention that because I think it's probably a nice little thing to acknowledge that um you know you be careful what you feed your brain yeah the post was your brain doesn't care what it learns it learns what you repeat yes so it's very easy to pick up a new habit or a new belief system yes if you keep repeating it yes or an addiction yeah another thing yeah you know if you keep doing the thing you shouldn't do yeah then you're going to find it very hard to stop doing it um anyway i thought that might be helpful that is very interesting

7:43Davina McCall: what have you got for us to be on the call the first thing i want to talk about is a jewelry designer so i first heard about this jewelry designer because she does really beautiful bits of jewellery to raise money for charity so she does lots for choose love and um she did a beautiful necklace with dawn o porter oh yeah yes i remember she did a disco ball yeah and um clara amfo did one and i'm i'm designing one with her um and she did this gorgeous

8:23Michael Douglas: multi-coloured one yes i can see that and she did a lovely one with the word love on it anyway she's

8:28Davina McCall: done she's done a lot for charity which i really appreciate about her but also her jewelry is very nice jewelry um it's very good quality jewelry but it's not too expensive which is what i really appreciate about it so there's a new set out now called um into the blue which is really gorgeous and they are between, you've got little necklaces which are 18 karat gold plated sterling silver for£90, earrings which is also again 18 karat gold plated sterling silver for£85 but I mean really, really beautiful quality jewellery that would be an amazing gift for someone. She's got things in silver and in gold.

9:21Davina McCall: really, I think classy is the way that I would describe it. Classy, not tarty. Yes, I mean, there's nothing wrong with a bit of tarty, but I just want to say that... Ooh, that red ring's nice, isn't it? It's called a carnelian cocktail ring. But there's just a lot of different... And the other thing that I really like about Rachel Jackson jewellery is that she shows you that you can layer jewellery so you can have, like, a long necklace, then a couple of shorter ones. and I'm so obsessed with all of that. How are you? I love the three-layered jewellery. Making a note. Making notes for birthday presents and things.

9:58Davina McCall: And her email address, I mean her website address is racheljacksonlondon.com and keep your eye out for my Choose Love necklace which will be coming. By the way, I'm not paid in any way by Rachel Jackson so I'm not recommending her because I've got an investment. I'm recommending her because I love her jewellery. We have had a lot of questions this week on the Insta page about what creatine we take. Ah, okay. Well, again, this is a bit tricky for me because I am paid to be an ambassador for Ancient and Brave. But the reason why I became an ambassador for Ancient and Brave is because... We talked about them on this podcast.

10:40Davina McCall: Yeah, and we recommended them way before I started working for them because I loved their collagen. And then because of that, they asked me to be an ambassador for them, but I'd already been using them for five years. But what I didn't know was the story behind Ancient and Brave. So, look, I am an ambassador. Yeah, you're paid. But this is not an advert. They haven't asked me to say this. No, no. But I went to their offices the other day and I was so impressed. They are an amazing business, aren't they? Oh, yeah, yeah, brilliant. I mean, honestly, they have a female founder at the head of their business who is so passionate about women and taking care of women and making sure that everything that they are getting is top draw.

11:35you know like it that all the ingredients are sourced very carefully that it is all sustainable that it is all the good stuff that we're supposed to be putting inside so i take their magnesium

11:48Davina McCall: i take their collagen i take their creatine and i've just started taking their omega-3s i mean i literally um would take anything that they make because i know a hand on heart I know that it is well made

12:07Michael Douglas: Kate it's Kate by the way, I should have said her I don't get paid by them by the way, I take their college creatine every morning so for all the people that have asked, which is quite a lot of you have said which creatine do you take, we take 5 milligrams with a coffee in the morning and then another 5 milligrams in the afternoon somebody asked, no it's not milligrams it's 5 grams is it milligrams no five grams yeah five grams yeah okay five grams um so anyone who's asking that's what it is uh there's a couple people saying did it make you bloated or something

12:39Davina McCall: like that but i'm not yes do you know a really good recommendation if anybody's interested in creatine and what it's about and how much to take and how to take it is to go on to Diary of a CEO podcast. Just recently, Stephen Bartlett had an amazing creatine expert on and she was so good. We have a little comment here from someone called Tina who says, creatine has been a complete game changer for me. Yes. And I'm in my 50s. I would say it's completely changed my body. I can't quite believe it. I don't know whether I said this last week or not, but I exercise in the same way I always have done.

13:24But after taking creatine, I can see the reduction in fat and an increase in muscle in my body. I've got a tiny body, by the way. It was very easy for me to see the changes in it. We have this white powder in front of me. You've got a big smile on your face. I do, because I don't care who you are. You should definitely be having this. let's talk about creatine phenomenal research what episode is that?

13:50Davina McCall: she is it's from the 5th of February

13:53Michael Douglas: 5th of February 2026

13:55Davina McCall: diary of a CEO cognitive decline expert the disease that starts in your 30s but kills you in your 70s she's called Louisa Nicola and she's a neurophysicist and human performance coach and she is brilliant on this podcast on Diary of a CEO. She's so good on it. And if you're wondering about creatine and bloating and all of that, she literally gets rid of all of that. It's because people are hearing from people who are, what do they call it when loading? It's like carb loading, creatine loading. Yeah, yeah. It messes about with your system. Yeah. But they're talking about 20 grams plus a day. Yeah.

14:41So just go easy on it.

14:43Davina McCall: So go easy on it and build up slowly. But she's got her mum on it. She's on it. She just said it's absolutely vital. And the difference that it's made to my body is incredible. So, yes. Go, go, go. Go, go, go.

15:01I finished Black Rabbit last night, finally. So this is a Netflix series with Jude Law and Jason Bateman. It's eight episodes. They're about 40 to 50 minutes each. Episode one is great. and then it gets slightly twisted and dark

15:17Michael Douglas: and then it's pretty murky. But if you're looking for something to really get your teeth stuck into and you don't mind something that goes a bit twisty-turny and a bit dark, then I absolutely loved Black Rabbit. The final episode last night was a bit of a shocker. I was like, oh, my God, what? I've also got to say what great acting. It is good acting, yeah. I mean, Jason Bateman is so versatile. Because I love him in the Ozarks. Yes. I loved him in Arrested Development as a kind of comedy guy. Yes, I mean, he's so different every time. Maybe his time is yet to come. Maybe he's going to do an Oscar-winning movie at some point.

15:54Michael Douglas: I definitely think he might. Yeah. And I feel like he's on the cusp of being asked to do something that mega because everything he's done recently has just been a huge hit. Yeah, he's very, very likeable, that's for sure. And Jude Law was very good as well. There was loads of people in it that I thought were great. The woman who plays the chef was fantastic and her sidekick. But if you're looking for something to watch, I know I've recommended it before, but I just finished it last night and I would say it was really well worth a watch. I don't think there'll be a second season of it. So if you're looking for something that does like seven or eight seasons, I don't think this is it.

16:31Michael Douglas: I think it's a one season. We would highly recommend the one. Yeah, I would recommend it. So go, go, go. I have done something this week which I'm really excited about because I have been so into spin. You have. But I've always gone in Tunbridge Wells because lovely Jamie had SPN in Tunbridge Wells. And it shut down and I'm really, really missing it so much because spin ticks two boxes for me, which is raving and exercise. and I am so gutted that it's not like I can't find. And the thing about Jamie that I loved at SPM was I just loved her taste in music. Anyway, I went to SoulCycle in Notting Hill and I was really nervous about it.

17:22You know when you feel like you're going to a club that you don't belong to? And I feel like I need to let people know that it's not like that.

17:32Davina McCall: that SoulCycle is much friendlier and everybody wants you to have a good time. It's not exclusive. It's not exclusive. And a couple of times today, you know, like I high-fived the guy next to me and, you know, like we'd kind of go... Sorry, what? Just say that again? I can't even... You high-fived a guy. I was sandwiched between two men today. Yeah, where is this thing? Where is this place? Oh, I love this. It's in Nothing Hill. Is it? Yeah. Soul cycle. Yeah. Come in your short shorts. I'm sorry, what did you just say? What? It meant come to soul cycle. Oh, Jesus.

18:19Michael Douglas: A little breakdown here. Oh, my God, I can't believe I said that. It'll be like smell your box next. Like the Garnier thing. Oh, my God. yeah that was so funny um okay high-fiving blokes if that's what you want to do get yourself to so cycle i've got a couple of things to say about it so there are different um trainers and what

18:41Davina McCall: you can do the lady behind the counter whoever's working behind the counter they know everyone there so whatever your kind of music is so mine is dance music um edm yeah you know uplifting you know fun dance music but for some people it might be r &b or something all the trainers play something different they've got a different style and sometimes they do nights where they'll have like two artists against each other and just play those artists or they'll have a taylor swift class oh wow i mean it's something for people who really love it one particular artist yeah i'd love that So I really enjoyed that.

19:21So today we did a 2000s class and it was like loads of dance music that I knew.

19:27Davina McCall: And I had to apologise to the guys on either side and just go, I'm really sorry, but I just want to let you know I'm a whooper. And they were like, okay, don't worry, we're whoopers too. I bet they are. So it costs£15 for two classes or£50 for three classes, which is weird because that's more. but I think it's newcomers can pay£15 for two classes. Okay. So you get to just test it out. Yeah, yeah. And if you like it, then you can do£50 for three classes or£99 for two weeks of unlimited rides. Wow. So you could go every day. Yeah, just think of all the blokes and that. I mean, there, yeah. A room full of men all high-fiving you.

20:12Yeah. There are lots of hot women there. You should come. Oh, really? Okay. Count me in. I'll gather three classes for£50, yeah. Okay, good.

20:23Davina McCall: But it's a brilliant way to exercise. It's really good fun. The music is great. The teachers are fantastic. It's really, really good. Are they all over the country, SoulCycle? They are in London and lots in America. So I haven't seen any outside of London. Oh, okay. Yeah. But there's one in Soho, there's one in Portobello Road. and it's worth a trip. Yeah. You know, it's a destination workout. Like, make an effort to go, it's brilliant. Okay, enough about all that high-fiving fellas and everything.

21:03Michael Douglas: I bought myself some new DJ decks and some new speakers recently.

21:08Davina McCall: Oh, yes.

21:09Michael Douglas: I've been meaning to talk about these for ages, actually, but I got, there's a range of JBL speakers. So JBL are a big speaker company, but they make, in the 70s and the 60s, they used to make these very cool-looking speakers in a kind of veneered walnut box, you know, and with a really cool grill on the front. Anyway, they've started to remake them. They're called L82s, the JBL L82, and they're quite expensive. They're about£1 ,700 for two speakers, but you can get a slightly smaller version, the JBL L52s. They're about£800 for the pair. These are the ones I've got in my studio.

21:51Davina McCall: I mean, they are really good quality.

21:54Michael Douglas: They're so beautiful as well. Yes. They look fantastic. They've got a foam orange grill on the front of them, and then they're kind of teak walnut effect box speakers. They are just so good. So they're what they call passive speakers, so they don't need power. But you do need an amplifier. So the DJ decks I bought were called the FLX10s, Panasonic FLX10s. So you can go and have a look at them. Are they kind of professionals? No, they're not really. So you could potter about at home. Yes, totally. You could learn how to DJ on these. You could easily learn how to DJ. Now I've recommended the FLX4s before.

22:33Michael Douglas: Those are the small ones, the ones I've got over there. Oh, yes, yes. So they're good beginner ones, but I've gone up a level because I've got a bit more fancy pants. There you have. And what they've got on the FLX10s, they've got these things called stems, where if you're listening to a song, but you want to get rid of the vocal, you can press a button and it drops the vocal out and you keep the rest of the song. Or you could drop out the instrumentation, but keep the drums and the vocal. So you can drop out different bits of the song. That's amazing. Yeah, it's good, right? So if you're listening to a particular song...

23:03So you're mixing it?

23:04Michael Douglas: Yeah, so if you're listening to a particular song, what you can do is drop out the instruments and the voice and just have the beat. So it might be going... And then you can cue up the next song, but the next song can have the instrumentation, but you're using the drums from the first song. And then you can start to blend all these things together. Do you know what I thought was amazing? How it's affected you musically. Because I played you something the other day and you went, you know what this would go with? Yeah.

23:35Michael Douglas: Total Africa. And I was like, oh my God, you can just hear it. Yeah, so instantly what's happened to my brain, because I've been repeating their behaviour, is that it's now started to pick up on very specific characteristics of songs. So when I hear a song, I know there's something stored in my brain, the other song that could go with this. Because obviously what you can do on the DJ decks is you can set... Sorry about our washing machine. Should I go shut the door? Yeah, go shut the door. What you can do with the beat sync thing is you can... Let's say you've got a song at 120 beats a minute and the other one's at 123 beats a minute.

24:09Michael Douglas: You can click beat sync. and these two songs will sync up so they'll both either go to 120 or 123 so now the songs can mix now you might find that the songs are in different keys in which case some of the instrumentation might be in a different key but you can also do a key sync and then the keys of the songs will mix and then bang it gets really easy to start mixing songs I mean you say it gets really easy

24:32Davina McCall: it's not that easy I would say within two hours of messing about on these things you could, you'd DJ. And when are we all going to be able to come and watch you DJ somewhere public? When are all the making the cut?

24:46Michael Douglas: Okay, so me and Damina are talking about doing a live, making the cut live. Every week. And doing a residency somewhere in a small theatre, perhaps in London. Yeah. And this would be a live show. So first of all, messages. You could DJ in and DJ out. Oh my God, Michael, please do that. Listen, everybody, even if you don't want to come and listen to the whole podcast you'll want to come and see the beginning and the end because watching Michael DJ is the most joyful thing I have ever seen in my entire life. So I could do some DJing at the beginning and at the end and then not only can we talk about things we could demonstrate certain things like if we found something we really like we could have one.

25:31Michael Douglas: You know you mentioned that jewellery Rachel Jackson was it? What she could potentially do is gift something to us that we could gift to the audience. Oh my God, that would be so nice. Someone could win it. We could do like a little quiz or something. Who wants to win this Rachel Jackson necklace? Oh my God, that would be so good. And then there's something in it for the people in the audience. Something in it for us. We would film it and it would go out. Yeah, put it out on the YouTubes and that. And then also we could do you know, we could have recommendations from the audience. People could come and recommend their own things or demonstrate something to us.

26:06Yes.

26:07Michael Douglas: It'd be quite good, wouldn't it? Yes. Like an interactive show. So let us know in the comments. Do you know what we'll definitely get a recommendation? Go on. The Silas Chopper. The Silas Chopper. I think we should probably give one of them away a week. Every week. Every week. Everyone gets one. Someone gets one.

26:21Davina McCall: I just want to, before we go, I've got a really good one. Yep. It's called Bands in Town. Okay. Are you on Bands in Town? No. Okay, so Bands in Town is bandsintown.com. And when you go on there, you get the app and you sign up. And I think it's free. I'm pretty sure I don't pay a subscription. But what happens is Bands in Town goes to your Spotify, your Apple Music, and it looks at everyone, every track that you've got, that you listen to. You put in your favourite artists. You put in your favourite types of music. and you put in where you live and then it just serves you bands that you love that are playing locally to you.

27:08Okay, great. And wherever you are in the country, it picks up where you are and tells you about bands and things that you love

27:15Davina McCall: happening where you are. So it's so clever. So at the moment it's saying Fulham United Kingdom because we're up here. Yeah, yeah. But when I'm in Tunbridge Wells, it gives us all the southeast and southwest. Tim in Parlour playing. Yes, May the 7th at the O2. Oh, my God, I love them. So this is what I mean. It's just so brilliant. Pitbull, Youngblood, Kiosk, Orin. It's got Ronnie Scott, who's playing there, Cadogan Hall, the O2 at Brixton, Deftones, Jurassic Fields, Festivals. I mean, look, concerts around here. Then you can tick everything that you want. It just, isn't that great? Yeah, I love the sound of that.

28:01It's a bloody magic, that is.

28:04Davina McCall: Yeah, yeah. Okay, I've got a couple of shout-outs we will do just before we wrap up. Yeah. So this is really nice. I just had a quick look at this. So this is called Becky Conop, I think, and it says, Hi both. I'm guessing this might get lost in the DMs, but I'm hoping not. Listener of the pod, so I know how much you both love cool stuff. I've also known you champion and support independent brands, which is so great. I wanted to send a link to a new online art store. It's my husband, so obviously I'm biased, but it's a really excellent curated with some amazing original designs, all of his. I'm sure you're getting undated, so I don't expect to reply.

28:39Hopefully you'll have a minute to take a look. But have a look at this. This is his website, paulscott.studio it is.

28:44Michael Douglas: I had a quick look with some really cool stuff on that. I'm just writing it down. Okay, thank you. Oh, God. Oh, God, I love it. Yeah, right? Oh, my God, it's so good. I love the love. The bright eyes, yeah. Oh, my God. So, um... Oh, this is so good. Isn't it nice? Yeah. Wait, how much are they? Not very much. It's£55 for that. Oh, my God. And then frame that. Oh, disco ball. Disco globe, that one is. Disco globe. So these are all prints. I love the gun. That's good, isn't it? Look at this clock thing. Oh, my God. Oh, wait. Okay, this is so good. Yeah. This is so us. Shop the collection. Love letters.

29:25Oh. Oh. yeah okay so paulscott.studio you have got a studio got a big shout out um and thank you to your wife um for sending us this book and also paul thank your wife i wonder if that's her yeah what in the

29:41Michael Douglas: picture yeah yeah but some lovely stuff on there folks so please go and have a little wow that is

29:47Davina McCall: Can you hear her? Yeah, I can, yeah. That's a really brilliant one, Michael. I love that. Pam Lydon said, also like to recommend the James King Film Club, a film membership for people who love films. JamesKingFilmClub.com. If they would like a pass, I can send one to them to try. So this is from Pam Lydon on Instagram. So perhaps get in touch with her there. And we've been in touch with her quite a lot over the years by the looks of things. But that's a great little recommendation. www.jameskingfilmclub.com

30:27Thanks so much for the shout out. It means so much to us. Hope you enjoy listening to one of the earlier episodes. Oh, this was Helena and Joella. And she says, two good things have come out of this. I feel like we're on a high. And second, my sister has a 20 year old daughter with special needs. And she is now the proud owner of a wand. yes oh I'm so happy so Joella and Helen oh that makes me really happy yeah great and good luck with everything that you're doing as well as some brilliant stuff let's have a little look what else is going on here oh Emma Cuthbert Emma Cuthbert yeah just listening to this week's pod oh my god yes I would be interesting in a book that Michael wrote

31:14Michael Douglas: I know, right? Isn't that nice? Such a good idea. Also, I'd like to recommend another Jojo Moyes book. It's one of her older ones. It's called The Girl You Left Behind, about a painting that's stolen in World War II and where it ends up in the modern day. It's such a good story, and I just couldn't put it down. I mean, I think Jojo Moyes, Emma, is one of those writers where you just want to, like, get into, Oh, do you know the date night? Yeah. You know that's Gin's company. Oh, is it? Gin Gin? Yes, that we know. Yeah. It's a non-profit evening and it's a dating night for 55 plus singles and it's speed dating.

31:58And there is one on the 27th in Tunbridge Wells. It's called Date Night. So date night Kent at gmail.com. it's 55 plus single speed dating and it's on the 27th in Tunbridge Wells

32:15Michael Douglas: you'll be pleased that I'm younger than 55 so I can't go I'm so relieved I've only got three years left of you yeah and then and then that's it you're gone if you're a soul cycle high-fiving dudes I am yeah bless you and then let's just do a couple of shout outs because I keep asking people to do this for Spotify. We're getting lots of shout-outs on Spotify now in the comments section, which is nice, isn't it? It says Daisy from three days ago says, absolutely love this podcast. It's a wonderful treat each Friday, especially now I'm in my final year of a law degree. You should absolutely write a book, Michael.

32:56I absolutely love hearing your thoughts on life and the universe. Thank you for introducing me to the concept of synchronicity. It brings me so much joy when I spot those moments happening to me in everyday life. sending much love to you both Daisy synchronicity is great isn't it once you get tuned into it it's a brilliant little novel idea it was the one word that I could actually remember after my brain surgery Kathy Proctor I know Kathy Proctor if it's the same Kathy Proctor I used to work with somebody called Kathy Proctor at Models One another great chat look forward to listening to you both every week and now have a special book dedicated to all the recommendations you talk about as I had lists everywhere.

33:37Just signed up for the health blood test. Been wanting something like this for a while. So it was perfect timing. Please never stop this podcast. I get so much from it. And Michael, yes to the book. You have so much wisdom. You need to keep sharing. You know what? I think this is a sign. Yeah, yeah. You've got to do it. I will do it. I had a meeting about it. You've got to do it. I think it's a necessity.

34:03Michael Douglas: So, Cathy, one of the things we're thinking about doing is we can take every episode we've ever made of Making the Cut and it can be transcribed and then fed into a small language model, an AI model, that any of our followers could talk to at any time and pull any information out at all that we've got. So I'm in the process of transcribing everything at the moment and then probably put it into a Making the Cut app or something. Yes. And then you would download the app. And if you ever wanted to say to it, you could say, oh, Michael Indovina, you talked about a film about a science fiction movie where somebody lands on Mars.

34:40Michael Douglas: What is that? And the app would go and find that specific bit and then spew it back out to you. I mean, what was interesting, I was thinking, have I talked about Harry Baker's book, Tender? And I had to go through all the old podcasts. But actually, I could just ask the app. You could ask the app, yeah. Yeah. So I'm in the process of doing that at the moment. So hopefully, Cathy, you won't necessarily need to write everything down. You'll just be able to access everything we've ever talked about. And I realised we started this podcast in 2020. Yeah. And I feel like we should do affiliate links if people want to buy it.

35:12Michael Douglas: Yes, we'd love to do that. Yeah. Anything they want to buy. Yeah. They can buy through the app, essentially. And then... But it's a one-stop shop. Yeah. But we'd also then release tickets through the app. Yeah. For the show. For the show. Yeah. So we'd have this little kind of community building type thing. Good, look at us. We've changed. I know, we're business people. Five episodes are always the highlight of my Friday. Michael, you should definitely write a book. Or even five. Yeah, I don't know about that. You talk about a supplement, no links. So yeah, that was creating an ancient and brave.

35:47Creating a game changer. Absolutely fab episode, as always. Love my Fridays. I'm sure one day you'll write a book. thanks for being amazing that's from Julie so loads of comments there so I'm really happy so please keep putting the comments on Spotify because I think it it helps

36:02Michael Douglas: in some way but also messages on Instagram it's lovely to talk to everybody we love you yeah absolutely Michael I love you I love you too should we get to bed yes yeah okay see you later everybody bye bye

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