

15 May 2026 · 42m · 16 chapters

The episode is a mix of personal updates and media recommendations. Davina McCall and Michael Douglas discuss: seeing The Drama (Zendaya; Robert Pattinson co-star), a dark wedding-conundrum film they recommend without spoilers; watching the BBC iPlayer Michael Jackson: An American Tragedy documentary (including the Oprah interview and Martin Bashir interview, plus child-molestation court coverage) and their cynicism about monetizing Jackson’s life; and David Attenborough’s The Life of Birds segment about the Australian lyrebird mimicking many species (even camera-shutter and chainsaw sounds). They also cover EverUp (everup.uk), a cashback app/site offering up to 20% cashback on prepaid gift cards, with cashback redeemable to a bank account; and The Lost Bass, a BBC iPlayer documentary about Paul McCartney’s original Hohner bass guitar stolen in the 1970s and later reportedly found/reunited.
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The hosts discuss their experience watching 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind' and its themes.
“I forgot to mention it last week, which is unlike me, really, because I normally let everybody know.”
Davina shares her experience participating in a charity walk for cancer awareness and support.
“Yes, so walked with Rachel, which was absolutely amazing.”
Discussion about the importance of breast density awareness and regular checks for breast cancer.
“You could have told me that, couldn't you?”
The hosts share their thoughts on the movie 'The Drama' starring Zendaya and its impactful themes.
“And it was interesting because you were a bit like easy-ozy about Robert Pattinson.”
Davina and Michael discuss the film 'Cloud Atlas' and its unique storytelling across timelines.
“I would go and see it in the cinema if you can.”
Davina receives a special gift from Michael, and they discuss their theater experience with Genevieve Turley.
“So, yeah, we could do that in two parts.”
Hear about a fun night at the theatre featuring entertaining guests.
“so cocojagger, like Mick Jagger, dot com.”
Insights into the documentary covering Michael Jackson's complex life.
“I mean, it was just really a deep dive into his life, where it began.”
Details about a trendy pop-up shop featuring unique clothing.
“Patrick Cox's pop-up in London because I think he's got a pop-up.”
Explore the fascinating mimicking abilities of the lyrebird as discussed by David Attenborough.
“Sometimes it's bloody boring, you know, the politics.”
Explore the brilliance of 'Life of Birds' featuring David Attenborough.
“And now the sounds of foresters and their chainsaws working nearby.”
Discover the story behind Paul McCartney's original bass guitar.
“everup.uk And if you're E-V-E-R-U-P, I haven't used it.”
Delve into the fascinating history and search for McCartney's bass.
“and then And it's been lost for decades.”
Hear a humorous story about a past Celebrity Big Brother experience.
“Either the bass player left or, because there might have been five of them at some point, I can't remember, but it was a guy called Pete, I think, on the drums.”
Engage with listener feedback and personal health reflections.
“It makes adulting chores that much more bearable.”
Discussion about music producers, films, and personal recommendations.
“and listening to newer songs and evoking memories and emotions.”

Get the gist, explore an idea or ask about something said.
On Making The Cut with Davina McCall & Michael Douglas, what are the key points of this episode?
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0:43Michael Douglas: We're in yo. This is making the call. I am Davina McCall. And I'm Michael Douglas. And this is the Trip Advisor for your life. It depends how good your life is, really. No, well, ours is quite good, so we're sharing how you can have a good life as well with all the tips and tricks. It is good, isn't it? Yeah, we're enjoying ourselves. Yeah, it was my birthday this weekend. Oh, my God, it was so good. I forgot to mention it last week, which is unlike me, really, because I normally let everybody know. But it was my birthday on Saturday. Yeah, talk more into the mic. Yeah, it was my birthday on Saturday.
1:18Michael Douglas: We hired the cinema here near where we live. Yeah, it was brilliant. I've had some friends and we watched Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind. Which is such a good movie, by the way. Thank you. I've recommended it. Because I'd never seen it. All the way through. Yeah, well, have you not? No. Did you like it? I loved it. It's a great film, isn't it? Yes, it's really, really good. And everybody that hadn't seen it before was like, oh, wow. You know, it blew their minds. There's a couple of things about the film, if you're interested. I know you've recommended it before, but one of the great things is that the film has this jumping timeline.
1:49Michael Douglas: So you're never quite sure where you are. But one of the great things to notice as a hairdresser is that the colour of Kate Winslet's hair lets you know where you are in the movie. So when her hair is green, green is for go, obviously. Yeah. When she's green, that's when they first meet and fall in love. The orange is when they're together and the red is when they're really fiery and arguing quite a lot. Wildly angry as each other. Blue is when they do the process and kind of split up. So it's very interesting. But the movie doesn't start at the beginning of the movie. That's all I'll say about it.
2:31And what was brilliant was you explained that to us before we watched it. So it was very, very helpful.
2:36Michael Douglas: Yeah, it was because I had to watch it like three times over a couple of years. And it was only then did I realise what was going on. I thought it would have been helpful to know that. So it's not a spoiler. No, it was just it was super duper helpful because it does jump all over the place. so that was good fun and then on Sunday I would like to say that I did the Bannan Marsden March well done for the Royal Marsden Charity and I just want to say to anybody listening come join us next year if you have had cancer or you know anybody that's had cancer or has cancer it is a beautiful day of love and support lots of people with lovely names of people that they've loved and lost or loved and have fought or that they're proud of on the backs of their t-shirts and everybody walks past and you know I walked past the lady that was and said hi to Don her husband who who didn't make it and um he like stopped and gave her a cuddle um I don't know it was just one of those just beautifully glorious loving days and I did it with my breast surgeon oh did Did you?
3:45Michael Douglas: Yes. Rachel. Yes, so walked with Rachel, which was absolutely amazing. And Donna Ida came to join us, Queen of Denim. If you were a cancer doctor or a surgeon, it's highly likely you are extremely busy. Oh, I mean, you wouldn't believe the Marsden is unbelievably... It's unbelievable, isn't it? It is absolutely crazy how many people pass through the doors of the Marsden. when you think that one in Tervis is going to get cancer. When I go to a party or something like that and people find out I'm a hairdresser, I just get the whole, what would you do with my hair? Yes, of course, yes. But if you were a breast surgeon, you know, like...
4:27Michael Douglas: The stories. You couldn't get away from the subject, could you really? No. And how you protect yourself from the big waterfacts. I mean, it's... It'll drive you mad. It's also quite a lonely, a lonely job. And it can be quite a sad job. When I was at Addenbrooke's for Stand Up to Cancer and talking to the nurses about when someone dies and how is it for them and taking care of somebody in their final hours, it's a lot. Yeah. I wonder what it's like for a breast cancer surgeon to get breast cancer. Oh yes, that's quite... That would be a bloody annoying thing, wouldn't it? I suppose you would also know...
5:20Michael Douglas: What to check for it and all that kind of stuff. How to feel. I mean, a big shout out also to anybody with dense breasts, which means you would probably know if you have dense breasts, but if they are quite sort of firm, it means that they're generally kind of full of tissue. And it means that they are sometimes harder to feel a lump in. And anybody with dense breasts needs to regularly check and really be fastidious about it because people with dense breasts are slightly more prone to get breast cancer. So please check. I've got dense breasts, yes. You could have told me that, couldn't you? One of the reasons I have to go to the gym, to be honest, is to deal with them.
6:08The density.
6:09Michael Douglas: Yeah, yes. They're heavy. Sometimes I've got to lift them up. Can we talk about what we went to see last night? Oh, yeah, yeah. Let's start with that. Because I just thought it was so brilliant. We went to go and see the drama with Zendaya. Is it the drama? The drama. The drama. It's a movie. And what I really like about Zendaya is that she is just Zendaya. Yeah, yes. She doesn't have a second name. She's called Zen. There's only one Zendaya. There's a second name, not Deya. No. Oh, okay. She... That was a joke. Yeah, I like that. It was good. Like Bono or... And Robert Pattinson is her co-star.
6:52And it was interesting because you were a bit like easy-ozy about Robert Pattinson. Yes. Weren't you? But you liked this movie.
6:58Michael Douglas: I thought the movie was brilliant, yeah, and people should definitely go and watch it. It's a great conundrum in the film that you get stuck on, and the film does as well, but I'm still thinking about it now, really. Yes, and it's a brilliant thing, this. It's a couple, they fall in love, they get engaged, they're going to get married, and then something happens, and you are left as a viewer. We talked about it after the cinema. We talked about it quite late on into the night. And here we are still thinking about it today. I went to work and talked about it with everybody today. Yeah, isn't that fascinating?
7:36Michael Douglas: I'll give you a little synopsis. I'm talking to the listeners here, but I'll not throw in any spoilers. There's this bit where they're having a pre-wedding kind of chit-chat with the maid of honour and the best man, and then there's the bride and groom. For whatever reason, they're all getting drunk, and then they play this kind of game where they essentially say, oh like what's the worst thing you've ever done and everybody's allowed to say what it is in safety and nobody will tell anybody or get or judge the other people or yeah and everybody goes around the room and says the thing um and and that's where something happens there's a thing that happens in the film that kind of blew my mind actually it really blew mine as well and i think It's the other things that people say that also make you think a lot.
8:25I mean, you've really got to see it. I can't recommend this film high enough. And it scores very highly on IMDb, 7.3.
8:32Michael Douglas: How long? One hour, 45. Yeah, perfect. I mean, it is the perfect film. It's a 15. It's still in the cinemas now. I would go and see it in the cinema if you can. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's directed by Christopher Borgley. Yeah, and he's done a few other films. I've never seen any of them. He also wrote it, I think. It's not without its faults, I would say. I think it could have been funnier. But it's such a dark film, it's quite hard to make it funnier. It was already a bit funny. I think Patterson. Patterson. Patterson. I think he was a bit miscast in it. I think you could have had a kind of...
9:11A slightly funnier actor.
9:12Michael Douglas: I got the feeling the first 10 minutes, I thought, oh, they've tried to cast a young Hugh Grant type. he plays a British guy is he British Robert Pattinson? I'm not entirely sure I didn't think he was but let me have a quick look he's in all the vampires yeah he's born in England ok he's a British actor he's got these little round glasses on and he's a bit floppy haired and all the rest of it and I'm like oh you know this would have been great young Hugh Grant kind of thing would have had a lot more humour at that point but anyway that's my own take on it but I actually thought he was good because it does go dark and he needs to be dark and I'm not sure that Hugh Grant could be dark enough in that part.
9:51I thought he was really good.
9:52Michael Douglas: Have you ever seen the film Cloud Atlas? No. Oh, my God. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, really? Can we watch it tonight? So this was a film. Yeah, we could do it. It's a long film, so we could maybe watch it in two chunks. Yeah, okay. So this is a film that spans 500 years. Oh, wow. Okay, go on. Right? Okay. So it goes back, way back, and then it goes way forward. Oh, wow. But Hugh Grant is in that. Oh, great. Okay. I think he's a cannibal in it at some point. Oh, really? Yeah. I think he's in various different scenes throughout the timeline of the movie. But they always said this was the movie that was, this was a book that was impossible to make a movie of, but somebody's tried.
10:31Michael Douglas: Oh, wow. So it's a difficult movie because... Well, you just said somebody's tried. That sounds like it's not a very good film. I would love to watch it again and just explore it again. I remember thinking, wow, God almighty, How hard is that to make, that film? But there's brilliant stuff in the future, which is quite relevant, because it's probably about 15, 20 years old now, that film. Could you have a quick look, actually? Yeah. On IMDb. Tell me what it's called again. Cloud Atlas. Cloud Atlas. It's got Ben Whishaw in. It's got a great cast. Oh, I love Ben Whishaw. It was a mega movie. But it was, you know, it's not without its problems, but I'm not even sure what the perfect movie is, really.
11:10Tom Hanks, Halle Berry, Hugh Grant, Jim Broadbent, Hugo Weaving, Jim Sturgis, Bay Donner, Ben Whishaw, Keith David, James Darcy. An amazing, amazing. Susan Sarandon. Wow.
11:27Michael Douglas: What does it rate? It rate 7.3. Same. How long? The drama. Two hours 52. Wow. So, yeah, we could do that in two parts. Yeah. But I would recommend people watch that, especially the futuristic stuff. That was good. An unexpected recommendation. We love those. I've got something for you. Oh. What, a present? Yeah, it's kind of a present, really. Oh, nice. I've got something for my birthday. Yeah. And I instantly thought, I'd like to get you one of these. Oh, great. And so, here it is.
12:03Oh, my, oh, my God. oh my god oh my god I'm so I'm so excited I really was going to get one of these oh my god look at the colours
12:16Michael Douglas: yeah yeah yeah so I was going to get you one of these and she contacted me this is Coco Jagger by the way the beads people Fern bought me these for my birthday other way round so you can see the eye oh my god this is so good I'm going to read you a little bit of the card yes so she said look at it michael right look how good yeah nice right so there's pomegranate stones in there i think so pomegranates which i said is grant is a granite yes lovely symbolizes abundance prosperity and divine blessing while the cheeky mushroom is all about transformation wisdom and connection to unseen realms gemstones include a peach moonstone which is soothing nurturing and divine feminine energy uh labradite oh moonstone i think is um one of my um birth stones oh is it i think so labradite the stone of protection intuition and transformation known as the stone of magic smoky quartz is in there powerful grounding stone to neutralize negative energy known as the stone of power um and then there's one for healing and it says I hope all your wishes and dreams continue to come true I love this thank you I love this so much Coco Jagger these necklaces are brilliant so it is actually a gift from her oh well thank you so much I was going to get you one she just messaged me and I was like yeah go on go get me she said I love to make Davina one I love it so much Coco Jagger thank you very much and her website is c-o-c-o-j-a-g-g-e-r so cocojagger, like Mick Jagger, dot com.
14:08Yeah. Absolutely brilliant. Thank you so much, Coco and Michael.
14:13Michael Douglas: Yeah, it's a pleasure. I didn't have to do very much work or part with any money. No, but you had the idea of getting me one and I appreciate the idea. Thank you. Thank you. So we went to go and see Genevieve Turley in theatre on Sunday night and actually there was an appearance by a really, really hot, very funny, entertaining hairdresser. Yeah. By the name of, God, what was his name again? Kirk Douglas. No, I think it was, no, it was Michael. Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas. That was it. And honestly, to honest to God, you know, Genevieve is very famous. She's kind of known for her comedy and the makeup and everything and she's quite used to kind of performing.
14:59You did the Katie Piper show together every Sunday on telly for most of last year, it felt like. Yeah, it was 20 years. It was absolutely, you were brilliant together, both of you. You had such great chemistry. But she asked you to come back to be in her show and do hair tips. Honestly, I was so freaking proud of you.
15:22Michael Douglas: Thank you. You were so brilliant. But what was really lovely was her audience. are so loving. I sat next to that. In fact, he's an internet sensation, but I didn't recognise him without his wig on. He's a comedian. But I sat next to Richard Franks. He's on Instagram and TikTok. And it was so funny because I was like, I'm sure I recognise him from somewhere. And then eventually he told me, I was like, oh my God, it's you, but without a wig on. Like he's bald. It's so funny. He plays a woman on Instagram. Anyway, the whole audience, everybody was just rooting. There was like heckling throughout, but nice heckling.
16:02Michael Douglas: Yeah, it was very communicative. It was so lovely. And you've just got such a great way about you. And Genevieve was so fantastic. And interestingly, one of my recommendations was a lipstick. I have been trying to find Clinique Stop Making Their Chubby Sticks, which were their lipstick sort of sticks. lipstick, like a pencil thing, wasn't it? And I miss it so much. And I've been looking for one for ages. And she used a lipstick stick. And she told us what it was. And it was Ruby and Hammer. Oh. And at rubyhammer.com. I'm on it now. It's a red lip. It's a red lip. And look, it's so nice. And Ruby Hammer also does masterclasses on her website and stuff so she'll teach you how to use it um but honest honestly there was everybody she should have provided notepads and pens because you gave loads of hits tips and hints she genevieve gave gave loads of makeup tips and everything to people it was a great show i hope i hope you both do more yes i certainly liked who we did at the leicester square theater which holds about 450 people yes it was big and i loved the square i mean we've seen frank skinner there and stewart lee there and So I was like, holy shit, I'm playing in London theatre.
17:19Michael Douglas: Yes. It was brilliant. It was huge. But I saw it as a little rehearsal for potentially our making a show. Yeah, making the cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be really good fun, that, wouldn't it? Because would you come to the end of this season soon? Yeah. This episode or the next, we'll do one more. And perhaps when we come back, it could be a live show. A live show, yeah. Which would be great. It would be great to meet our gang. Yeah, wouldn't it? Our audience. I'd love to do that. but that was can I just say once again it was very funny actually because Genevieve went Michael is a break dancer and I shouted out he's not just a break dancer Genevieve he's the UK under 14 break dancing champion and everybody cheered it was really really funny I nearly did some break dancing but there was a rug on stage yeah no don't do that don't do that okay god where shall I begin I've got so many things to talk about the first one is I watched the Michael Jackson documentary on the BBC iPlayer.
18:16I've watched a bit of it with you. Tell me what you're overriding.
18:20Michael Douglas: I mean, it was just really a deep dive into his life, where it began. You know, the whole thriller thing and then bad. And then, of course, it went a bit kind of weird after that. The Oprah interview, really, where he opened up. And then the Martin Bashir thing that came along. where Martin Bashir obviously made him feel safe enough to say what he was, talk about himself, I suppose, very openly. I'd quite like to watch that Martin Bashir interview again. I can't, it must be on YouTube or something like that. But it is so peculiar. Yes, it's very uncomfortable. Yeah, him holding that boy's hand and all the rest of it.
18:57Michael Douglas: And then later on, you know, that boy and his parents take Michael Jackson to court, you know, for child molestation and all that kind of stuff. And there's interviews with the boy that you see, you know, with the police and all the rest of it and talking about things. I don't know quite now how Michael Jackson got off or whatever it is, but there's a lot of... It's hard to refute when you see the boy, I think, because, yeah, it feels... Because you could kind of think, oh, he was just being nice and kind of... But it was more than that. Yeah, yeah. It was definitely weird, that's for sure. One of the problems I've got with America, the whole legal system there seems to be so corruptible that it gets very hard to know whether someone's just trying to rinse someone for money, publicity, you know, all the things why you would want to go into a high profile case.
19:50And then there's the courts and then there's the civil courts.
19:55Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah. It's a bloody mess. I don't know if anybody's ever seen Serial or sorry, seen it, listened to Serial, the podcast. Yes, it was brilliant that. It was so good. It gives you a little insight into just basically never get arrested in America. No. You know, just do not do anything that would get you arrested. Because it is no man's land, that legal system. The other big thing to think about, I mean, I don't think many of our listeners are lawbreakers. But, you know, if you get arrested here, you can't go to America. Oh, right. Really? You can't go with a criminal record. Well, luckily for us, we don't have one.
20:38Michael Douglas: We've not done that. So anyway, it's a Michael Jackson document. I think it's called Michael Jackson, An American Tragedy. And it's on the BBC iPlayer. And it's three parts. But there's loads of great footage in it. There's all sorts of fab bits. It's a great bit with Michael Jackson on a bus doing some kind of promotional tour for his latest album, which is the last one he released. But he's on a bus going down Wardour Street. and there's crowds and crowds of people going down it. And I was like, oh my God, that's round the corner from where I work. You know, I was just amazed by that. So anyway, that's well worth a watch if you're interested, especially before you go and see the film, perhaps.
21:12Michael Douglas: Yes. The Michael film, which I'm interested to go and see. Are you? Yeah. Because I've heard okay things. Yeah. But not mega. I think it's a way of the family generating money, essentially. They're trying to monetize Michael's life because obviously you can't perform anymore or sell records. Yes. So there's all these different things going on. There's a live theater show and there's a movie and then there'll be Cirque du Soleil, Michael Jackson in Vegas, all that kind of stuff, you know. So I think a level of cynicism, I think, is probably not a bad idea.
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23:00I would like to just quickly talk about Patrick Cox's pop-up in London because I think he's got a pop-up. It's still going tomorrow. So if you live in London... This will go out on Friday, though, sadly. Then Saturday. I think it finishes on Saturday. Oh, it finishes on Saturday. I think so. or maybe even Sunday. But it is at Kalita. I'm not sure. It's basically done at Kalita crossed with Doors of Perception, which is Patrick Cox's brand. And you might have seen Michael and I wearing some things from Patrick Cox. They are often things with big, brilliant embroidered eyes on. So Caps, we've talked about Patrick's brand before, But they did an amazing collab together.
23:56And it was at a pop-up on Kensington Park Gardens. Well done. Down on the corner of Westbourne Park Road and Kensington Park Gardens. It was on that corner. and there's a shop and it's kind of it says Ibiza in London on the window but if you want to see where it is either go to the Doors of Perception Instagram account or to Patrick Cox's Instagram account it's really really good and they've got some brilliant clothes in there and some great deals to be had but really really nice collaboration between the two brands it's fantastic.
24:43Michael Douglas: So I was listening to Radio 4 in the morning, which I occasionally do. What do you mean occasionally? Well, I don't do it all the time. You virtually do it every morning. Sometimes it's bloody boring, you know, the politics. I'm so bored with politics at the moment. There's no interesting characters. Nobody's, it seems like nobody's capable of doing anything significant, you know. There's no big changes happening. I don't think anyone, you know, I've really lost a lot of faith in politics. That's another story altogether. But there was this little article on Radio 4 about David Attenborough, I think he turned 100 this week.
25:16Michael Douglas: Yes, he did. He did, yeah. So they played this little clip, and I remember thinking, I love David Attenborough shows, and I wonder why I don't just watch them, because they're all on the iPlayer. There's hours and hours of them. Yeah. He can't die. No, well, he will. He's got to stay alive. Yeah. He'll protect him. At all costs. At all costs. You know, I think his voice was the very first voice on television. ever. Was it? I think so, yeah. The very first broadcast voice I think might have been David Attenborough. Wow. But anyway, there was this little clip and it's from a series called The Life of Birds.
25:53Yes.
25:54Michael Douglas: And they talked about a thing called a lyrebird. Have you ever heard of a lyrebird? No. No, it's an Australian bird. But I'm going to play a little clip here. I'll just scroll it along. It's a two minute clip. Yes. So he's talking about the lyrebird. Can I just tell everybody that's listening, Michael has been teeing this up for me for a couple of hours. Yeah, I did say I was in full children. And you got a clip to play me, but he wanted to play it to you and to me first. So I haven't heard this, so I'm really excited about it because you were so excited about it. I was like, oh my God, this is mega.
26:28Michael Douglas: I was listening to it. I was like, no way. Bloody hell. That's amazing. So the lyrebird, what it does to try and meet a mate is it basically mimics lots of other birds in the forest until it lands on one, that gets attention. But it's very good at mimicking other birds, essentially. Oh, my God. So it does a kookaburra. And you can do a kookaburra, can't you? Yes, I can. I might get you to do that. OK. But it's OK.
26:57So, it's a bit of a bird there. To persuade females to come close and admire his plumes, he sings the most complex song he can manage. And he does that by copying the songs of all the other birds he has around him, such as the kookaburra.
27:17Oh, my God. It's a very convincing impersonation. He's showing off. Oh. Oh. The original is fooled. Oh, my God.
27:38he can imitate the calls of at least 20 different species
27:45he also in his attempt to out sing his rivals incorporates other sounds that he hears in the forest that was a camera shutter no
28:02And again.
28:07Michael Douglas: And now a camera with a motor drive.
28:12Really?
28:16And that's a trial alarm. What?
28:27And now the sounds of foresters and their chainsaws working nearby. Look at this. No! Come on.
28:39No. Oh, my God. What is that? That is so insane. Oh, God, please tell me he gets a girlfriend after this. I've never known anybody work so hard. Yeah, he gets laid after this. That was absolutely mad. The camera shutter thing. Oh, my God. No, I thought the chainsaw was, like, the cleverest.
29:00Michael Douglas: I was just like, wow. That's amazing. That is so brilliant. So Life of Birds is an old one. I think it's from the 80s or maybe the 90s. That is absolutely nuts. But the Life of Birds is available on the BBC iPlay along with just quite literally hundreds of hours of David Attenborough stuff. So I'm going to go and do a deep dive into some of that. Life of Birds. I'm writing that down. That's so absolutely brilliant. That's great. Thank you for that. That's absolutely amazing. My pleasure. I'd quickly like to talk to you about EverUp. Now, EverUp is an app and it's also a website, everup.uk. Okay.
29:41EverUp.uk. Now, basically what it is, it's a cashback app and you can experience getting cashback and with cashback rates of up to 20 % on every prepaid gift card purchase. now I haven't got one and I haven't used one but I did talk to somebody that used one today so basically what you do is you can use gift cards and if you use them wisely they can save you significantly on your purchases so it's like branded currency so if you get a 29 pound Nike gift card it's like buying 20 pound 29 pounds in Nike money which you use by
30:27Michael Douglas: spending a barcode yeah or an online code yep and when you use gift cards you get benefits like cashback which can be applied to future purchases or even you can get it redeemed to your bank account this this was the big deal so most programs offer coins or let you participate in things like free games. I think that is potentially gambling that can offer potential cash back, extra cash back. So I'm not sure about recommending that. But I do want to say that these people that I spoke to, you can get retailers like Aldi, Morrison's, so supermarkets, you can do your weekly food shop with these cards and get cash back so i all marks and spencers as well and the um basically it's it's you can have all your cards on the website yeah so you've got them all in one place and you can see how much you're spending and everything but i knew somebody today that i met that said that they got 700 pounds at the end of the year yeah after a whole year of spending money and they had that in their wallet and they used the whole£700 buying Christmas presents.
31:44That was like Christmas presents for the whole of their family. Yes, so they spent what they would normally have spent in a supermarket but they kept getting cash back and they bought all their Christmas presents with it. So it's everup.uk. everup.uk And if you're E-V-E-R-U-P, I haven't used it. so I'm not 100 % sure on how you use it but I've kind of read what it says on the website but go try it out because this person that I was talking to today couldn't bang on about it more glowingly they said they absolutely love it okay brilliant
32:26Michael Douglas: okay last one from me was a programme called The Lost Bass oh yeah and this is on the BBC iPlayer it's an hour and a half The Lost Bass. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a documentary about Paul McCartney's original Hohner bass guitar that you'll recognise him with the Shea Stadium thing. Oh, yes, yes, yeah. It's like a violin-looking guitar. So he bought it in Hamburg back in the day when the Beatles were playing in Hamburg, and they really learnt their craft. And then he recorded the early albums on that, and then he bought another 1963 bass that he also played. but he always said the 1961 was pretty much his favourite and it's what a lot of the classic Beatles were written and recorded with.
33:09Michael Douglas: It got nicked. When? It got nicked, I think, in like maybe 1973, something like that. Oh, like decades ago. Oh, yeah, yeah. But it's been lost ever since. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. Can I just ask you something? Yeah. You just made a noise with your mouth. Yeah? Yeah. When you went, it got lost and then you... you went oh god I'm a lyrebird yeah you've got me yeah I am your mate for life tonight's your lucky night so it's a story about this bass guitar about where it came from and then the work that it'd done and then what they think happened to it it got stolen from a van basically and they couldn't find it and then And it's been lost for decades.
34:02Michael Douglas: Anyway, there are bass hunters out there looking for lost guitars and stuff like that. I love that. Yeah, yeah. So this one guy... Wait, wait, hang on. What do you mean there are bass hunters? Well, you know, like in documentaries, there's talking heads. And it will say, like, Richard Peterson, bass hunter. No. Yeah. What? So you might hunt for other things, but on this occasion, it's considered a bass hunter. But I love... Do you know there's a Swedish singer? Yeah, called? Bass Hunter. Is it? I mean, I wonder if he was like, that's how he started. I think Bass Hunter was, I think he was, yeah, he was in Big Brother.
34:42Really?
34:43Michael Douglas: You think it was someone called Bass Hunter? Yeah. No, Jonas. Do you remember when I went into the Big Brother house as the chick? I do, yeah, yeah. And Vinnie Jones was very menacing. Hmm. I think Bass Hunter was dressed as a pig. Oh, really? And I was the chick. Hang on. Sorry, I've just got to just look this up. You've got to work this out, right? No, because I really... No, I just can't... I'm pretty sure... Yes, Celebrity Big Brother, yes! Really? Base Hunter? Yes, the seven series of Celebrity Big Brother when I went in. And can I just tell you something? He looked after me. Did he? He protected me.
35:23Michael Douglas: Yeah, because he did look a bit vulnerable when he went in. He protected me from Vinny, who was very nervous. about who I was and what I was doing in there. Yeah, I remember watching that episode from the dressing room. He was nervous. Yeah, I was. Yeah, I mean, I bloody was as well, let me tell you. You know what I thought they were going to do? What? Unmask you. Yes, well, I thought they were going to... They were trying to rip it off me. Yeah, take it off. Stephanie Beecham was really nice to me. I went in to see her, and I wasn't allowed to say anything other than tweet, tweet. Yeah. And Stephanie Beecham corpsed.
35:59she got such chronic giggles and so did I with me all I could say to her was tweet tweet but I can't tell you what it was like sat on a bed dressed as a chicken with Stephanie fucking Beecham she's an English actress and her career spanned over decades she was in
36:24Dracula The Night Comers The Colby's she was in The Colby's for years She was in Tenko, Boomers. She was in Troop Beverly Hills, Sister Kate. She was in Dynasty. Dynasty, that's where I'll know her from. She was big. She was like huge.
36:43Michael Douglas: Well, this documentary was really, really fun. You should watch it because there is loads of brilliant footage of all around Westbourne Park and Ladbroke Grove from the early 70s. Yes. All the cars and the houses because there were just squats everywhere back then. but that's your area a bit isn't it yeah for a while yeah so i think you'll really enjoy oh my gosh yeah um but there's a great story about finding the base i mean it's out there that it's been found so it's not a spoiler but it is an amazing story um and that a guy that eventually stumbled on because there's thousands of emails basically of people saying oh i know where the base is it's in japan i don't know where it is it's in russia i know where it is in america blah blah blah so there's people going to travel it it's an hour and a half this documentary wow it's a brilliant ending is McCartney in it?
37:31Michael Douglas: oh yeah it's sanctioned by him essentially and he gets reunited with his base after all these years that's so good there's a brilliant bit of a guy reconditioning it getting it and refurbishing it and it's beautiful brilliant little story but there's one particular guy in it that when they were in Hamburg they become very good friends with this artist and he's the artist who drew the revolver cover. I don't know if you remember the revolver. Of course, it's such a famous, brilliantly iconic cover, that. Because I think at some point in the Beatles, they needed a bass player. Either the bass player left or, because there might have been five of them at some point, I can't remember, but it was a guy called Pete, I think, on the drums.
38:17Michael Douglas: This is his pre-Ringo. Anyway, the bass player leaves and Paul basically says, well, I'll maybe play bass. So he goes and buys a bass. But this artist, who's a great friend of the Beatles, can play the bass. It was in a band and basically said to them, well, I'll play the bass. And it was basically like, yeah, all right, great. You can be in the Beatles. And then Paul said, no, we don't need you to be. I'll just do it. But he was that close to being in the Beatles. Oh, God. He's now like an 80-year-old fella. But isn't that funny? because that would be one of those stories where you tell everybody at the Christmas party, I was nearly in the Beatles now, go, yeah, yeah, whatever.
38:59Of course you were, yeah. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
39:00Michael Douglas: And the interviewer says, how do you feel about it? And he goes, I just basically try not to think about it, really. You know, I don't think you fucking do, you know. Wow. Brilliant. Okay, ladies and gents, all good. Let's read a few shout-outs. Oh, yeah, look. Have we got more on Spotify? We've got a few on Spotify. Nice. This is Julie. he says hi guys yet another fabulous podcast as for the answer regarding my anxiety because i think we were asking oh yes yes yes i'm much better thank you oh good you both helped me so much uh can i just say how much i appreciate your time you find to make these podcasts however tired run down you are yeah we're both a bit rubbed out uh thank you and very informative podcast i must say the reason why i love you both is i feel as i'm there sat with you chatting away it's so relaxing and wonderful atmosphere.
39:50Oh well thank you and thanks for also thanks for letting us know because we do worry. Yeah thanks Julie yeah. Thanks Julie.
39:56Michael Douglas: AJ says love your podcast always look forward to listening at the weekend in my kitchen while I do the chores like folding the laundry or meal prep for the weekend. Meal prep well done. Yes meal prep AJ. It makes adulting chores that much more bearable. Oh good. Another fab hour says Jules love to you both and listening from Punta Cana. Great as always, Sue's from Star and Sparkled Candles. Yeah, great. Michael, can I give you some news? Yeah. So everybody, I went for a check-up boob MRI. Have you just had it back? Just had it back. Oh, and? All clear. Well, what a bloody rubbish that is, let me tell you.
40:35A bit of emotion.
40:36Michael Douglas: Oh, do you? Yeah. I'll give you a squeeze in a minute soon as we're done here. Yeah, good.
40:44Michael Douglas: you never know do you I've just booked my colonoscopy oh well done and anybody listening if you've got a colonoscopy just go and get it done just any checks just go get it all done a very good friend of mine in St Albans has now got stage 4 bowel cancer because he skipped his colonoscopy 18 months ago and if he'd had it, they would have caught it. I spoke to him the other day and he said, it is my fault. I could have gone. I chose not to. Man, it's got me. Go, go, go. Yeah. Okay, let's read out a few things here. So Izzy says here, Izzy 2022. Hello, I'm a fan of your podcast. I really love the passion and positivity.
41:31Michael Douglas: Very good. As you are both music lovers here, a couple of music related recommendations. Hitster. This sounds great, by the way. I read that. so it hits her, make a note of that. Write it down. Which is a fun game to play with the family and friends of most ages. You can use Spotify to sync with the game. And what they do is you play a 30-second clip of music and you have to guess the year of the song when it came out and put the timeline together using the cards with dates on. The first one to put a timeline together correctly with 10 cards wins. It's really good for remembering old tunes and listening to newer songs and evoking memories and emotions.
42:05Michael Douglas: It's a brilliant idea, isn't it? I bought three. Have you? Yeah, because it sounds like a great present. It's great, isn't it? And then she says here, Mr. Cuts, Owen Cuts, a music producer based in London, worked with artists including Stormzy. You can find him on Instagram. What's his name? Mr. Cuts. How's that spell, please? C-U-T-T-S. Great, thank you. And it says he does an old music Friday, a deep dive, which I think you will love, and his passion and knowledge for music is really fun. Mr. Cuts, doing it now. Yeah, good.
42:38Michael Douglas: I was listening to you talk about Lightroom that was the Davy Bowie thing you went to see at the Lightroom oh yes she says Moonwalk is also amazing and it's still showing and would highly recommend oh great also a Song Sung Blue film Song Sung Song Sung Blue a film on Prime it was fabulous I love your podcast and both of you thanks for giving your followers so much Can I just say, Mr. Cutts looks absolutely mega. Yeah? I'm just looking at it now. He's got 511 ,000 followers. But do you know who follows him? Go on. Emma Freud. Ah. DJ Fat Tony. Okay. Benji B. Let's follow him. Jazz and Mars. Matt Willis.
43:22Zoe Ball. Fern Cotton. Paloma Faith. Ah. We're late to the party.
43:26Michael Douglas: Oh, good Christ. Victoria, thank you so much. That was great. Thank you for that. And that should be it. I think we'll do one more next week because I've got three or four things I was supposed to talk about today. I haven't talked about it. I've got great Instagram podcasting I want to talk about next week. Super cool. Okay, shall we go and get some food? Yes, let's do that. And cuddle and watch Cloud Atlas. Oosh. What a night. See you, everybody. Bye. Thank you. Find a rate that works for you with the Name Your Price tool. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company & Affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law.
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The Drama - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt33071426/
Cloud Atlas - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1371111/
Coco Jagger - https://www.instagram.com/coco.jagger/
Genevieve Turley - https://www.instagram.com/genevieveturleymua/
Michael Jackson: An American Tragedy - https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m002trr2/michael-jackson-an-american-tragedy
Patrick Cox - https://www.instagram.com/thepatrickcox/
The Life of Birds - https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b007qn69/the-life-of-birds
Everup - https://www.everup.uk/
The Lost Bass - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002v46m
Hitster - https://hitster.co.uk/
Mr Cutts - https://www.instagram.com/owencutts/
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