SERIES 17: Episode 8 - Tea & Tonic, Hope 93, Legends, The Glitter Store, Lie Down and Listen

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0:25Michael Douglas: We are recording. Hello, everybody.

0:29Davina McCall: Hello, everybody. I was just looking at something on my computer. It says, Google Tag Manager dot com was prevented from profiling you across four websites. How horrible is that? Like, it's just so weird.

0:44Michael Douglas: As soon as you go on the internet, you're being tagged.

0:45Davina McCall: I know. I know. How's things?

0:49Michael Douglas: Good. Very busy today.

0:50Davina McCall: I mean, we're tired.

0:51Michael Douglas: Yeah, we are tired, aren't we? We're burnt out. So this is going to be the last one of this run. For a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it'll take a few weeks off.

0:58Davina McCall: Yeah, because we just, we need, like, it's, I mean, it's eight o 'clock in the evening. We've both just sort of finished working. Yes. I mean, even that's not a good sign, is it? Like, we don't know what day it is.

1:13Michael Douglas: This is my second podcast record today.

1:15Davina McCall: Yeah. And I've done a live already.

1:17Michael Douglas: You had Richard Bacon in Begin Again this week. Yes. Oh, my God.

1:21Davina McCall: Can we please discuss this man? Yeah, he's mega Richard. I really, really like him. I had no idea really about how multi-layered he was. But I thought he'd been a media mogul forever. But he's literally come to it in terms of starting his own business so recently, really. And it's been so obvious that that is what he should do. But the idea that he just up and left what was a very solid, stable, safe career in radio in the UK, where people absolutely loved him, took his entire family to Los Angeles for a brand new start.

2:06Michael Douglas: Yeah, completely different life. Yeah, like, that's ballsy.

2:10Davina McCall: He's ballsy. He's very ballsy.

2:12Michael Douglas: He was a big inspiration to me, really. Yeah, he's amazing. So I've been doing his hair for about 15 years. I met him on a TV show called Back to Reality. But for anyone who's listening who doesn't know, Richard Bacon was a disgraced Blue Peter presenter.

2:24Davina McCall: I mean, it's so funny because he was only there for a year. It's all anybody talks about.

2:27Michael Douglas: He got caught taking drugs when he was about 19 or something. And he got fired. But then Chris Evans offered him a job on The Big Breakfast because Chris Evans was a bit naughty like that. And Richard Bacon's career took on a whole new kind of...

2:39Davina McCall: Well, he became edgy, right? Yeah, I think so. And good.

2:41Michael Douglas: Yeah. Everyone said to me, if I hadn't got caught taking drugs, I would be Matt Baker now.

2:48Davina McCall: Yes, he would.

2:49Michael Douglas: You know, I'd be presenting the one show. Yeah. And he said, look at my life. Look at all the interesting things I get to do now. So he said it was the worst and best thing that ever happened to me, really.

2:58Davina McCall: And the other thing I really, really liked about him, which made me think a bit about how similar actually you two are, you are always incredibly giving about me and generous. And he is really, when he talks about Rebecca, his wife, it is such a beautiful thing. and he was talking about you two, you and Rebecca and what an amazing friendship you have.

3:20Michael Douglas: Yeah.

3:21Davina McCall: And I don't know, like just the way he speaks about her is so lovely because I think he knows, you know, it's a lot to go out with somebody like Richard and he's got a big life and she's quite a private person and I don't know, like he gets it and he understands and he's sympathetic towards that and he just loves her and appreciates what she does for him and provides him with it. It's really, really nice.

3:47Michael Douglas: A great couple. Yeah, they really are. But yeah, I used to cut his hair when he lived in Belsize Park before they had kids. And I would occasionally take my kids to the house. And you could see they were thinking, oh, yeah, we should probably have kids, really, shouldn't we? So I was a big advocate of, as you know, a big promoter of people having kids. So I was selling it to them in a big way. So I was delighted when she got pregnant. And then she had another baby. And then when he said, we're moving to L.A., I was like, what? How? Like, who does that? you know yeah but I've always loved his his lust for life but he used to do something called the Daily Bacon which was a podcast which was his radio show turned into a podcast

4:26Davina McCall: you know he's just started a new podcast

4:28Michael Douglas: oh has he

4:29Davina McCall: why are you more successful than me

4:31Michael Douglas: yeah I'll be on that podcast at some point one thing I do remember is he interviewed David Frost and I remember thinking oh this is who you want to be yes he wants to be David Frost so So if anyone's not watched Frost Nixon, it's a really good little look at David Frost's career and life. Because I only really knew David Frost from Through the Keyhole, him and Lloyd Grossman, do you remember?

4:58Davina McCall: Yes.

4:58Michael Douglas: And I used to love that show, but I just thought he was just a jobbing TV presenter. I didn't realise he had this back catalogue.

5:04Davina McCall: Oh my God, that's so funny. Incredible career, massive career in Australia as well.

5:08Michael Douglas: And then, of course, he got the Frost Nixon interview. Nobody really trusted him to do it. But I know Bacon really saw himself as somebody who could interview like David Frost.

5:19Davina McCall: I think he's right.

5:20Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah. Well, Tony Blair did one interview after he left office and when he launched his book. And that was Richard Bacon.

5:27Davina McCall: I'm not surprised because Richard, you know, did have aspirations to become an MP. He's very politically minded. He's incredibly smart.

5:35Michael Douglas: Yeah. I was bowled over really by how, you know, you'd get a guest on and you have a quick read of the book and all the rest of it, Catch the Train to Manchester because that's where they record it, read the book on the train. And he was such a brilliant interviewer. I learned so much about how to extract information. But Richard introduced me also to Tim Minchin.

5:52Davina McCall: Oh, did he? He had Tim Minchin on his show. What a gift.

5:54Michael Douglas: And that's where I got that from.

5:55Davina McCall: Oh, my God.

5:57Michael Douglas: And then I put him on to Richard Herring live at the Leicester Square Theatre. Oh, did you? And then he ended up going on that podcast. Oh, did he? Anyway, we'll prattle on about Richard Bacon for ages, but I'm really looking forward to the interview with him. Yes, it was good.

6:08Davina McCall: Like, I enjoyed it too. I think he did.

6:12Michael Douglas: It's good having a man on Begin again as well, isn't it? I know you've had men on before, but I do enjoy hearing the stories of the blokes. I've been asked to do a panel talk as a men's mental health expert. Not that I am that.

6:27Davina McCall: No, but you are good on men's well-being, I think. I'm quite a good vote to it. I think you're, I mean, you might not be a mental health expert, but you are good on the topic.

6:42Michael Douglas: I know what's going on.

6:44Davina McCall: Can I quickly say thank you to all the staff at Nuffield who have helped look after my friend?

6:52Michael Douglas: Yeah, she's had her ACL replaced today.

6:55Davina McCall: Yeah, and I just want to say big ups. You've been absolutely gorgeous, all of you, and to the surgeon. Thank you so much. You've been amazing.

7:03Michael Douglas: Do you like your cup of tea?

7:06Davina McCall: Yes, I do. Yeah. I mean, it's not Yorkshire. It's not Yorkshire tea.

7:09Michael Douglas: I know you're a Yorkshire tea girl, but I have made her a cup of tea today.

7:13Davina McCall: It's fragrant.

7:14Michael Douglas: Yeah, it is. It's got ashwagandha in it. Do you like it? Yeah, I've got ginger and turmeric.

7:19Davina McCall: Well, why have I not got the same as you?

7:21Michael Douglas: Yeah, because you like English breakfast tea. Yeah, it has got milk in it as well. It's probably not supposed to have milk in it yours.

7:26Davina McCall: Try that. Sorry, I don't understand. There's lots of different teas. Oh, I see.

7:30Michael Douglas: Yeah, it's called Tea and Tonic, this place. and it was inspired by the spa and wellness area that this lady used to work in. So she's made some skincare products. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, right.

7:41Davina McCall: Yeah, I mean, I think it's probably because, was that a Yorkshire tea? No. But with ashwagandha in it?

7:46Michael Douglas: No, no, that is this. It's called Bright Awakening and it is English breakfast tea with adaptogen super herbs.

7:54Davina McCall: Oh, well, can I just say, if you don't mind a little fragrant whiff, that is quite a good English breakfast tea. and if that's got ashwagandha in it, that is good. It's good, isn't it?

8:06Michael Douglas: Yeah.

8:06Davina McCall: I mean, I am the wrong person when you talk about this. But actually, this is nicer than I was expecting it. It is a good tea.

8:17Michael Douglas: This one, I've got one called The Tonic, which is ginger and turmeric adaptogen super herb tea.

8:22Davina McCall: I've got to say, that one is lovely if you want just a herbal tea. I'm interested. Has the English breakfast got caffeine in? Could you have a look for me?

8:31Michael Douglas: I want to see if it's got any caffeine.

8:33Davina McCall: Because I do fancy a bit of caffeine in the morning.

8:35Michael Douglas: Do you?

8:36Davina McCall: Mm.

8:37Michael Douglas: Yeah, you need a little pick-me-up. I do.

8:39Davina McCall: I do.

8:40Michael Douglas: Right, let's have a look. I think it does, yeah. It's got 42 micrograms or milligrams or something like that.

8:47Davina McCall: So it's got a little kick in it.

8:48Michael Douglas: Yeah, it's got a little bit of... So that's the breakfast tea. And then there's a few other ones as well. What's the business called? It's called Tea and Tonic.

8:55Davina McCall: Tea and Tonic, that's a nice idea. It's good, isn't it?

8:58Michael Douglas: It's teaandtonic.co.uk. and

9:00Davina McCall: how did you find out about it

9:02Michael Douglas: so I do this lady's hair called Genevieve and Genevieve Turley no oh Genevieve is this is 50 oh she's great yeah she's great isn't she oh I love her she's actually in her 60s she's brilliant yeah yeah so I did her hair this week so we've done a reel great do a voiceover so that's coming out and she said oh you know I do a lot of business with this company called tea and tonic I was like send me the tea and tonic

9:26Davina McCall: oh well I've got to say that's it's nice I like the packaging.

9:30Michael Douglas: Yeah, it's lovely, isn't it?

9:30Davina McCall: I like the idea behind it. Oh, and they've done something for you.

9:34Michael Douglas: Earl Grey.

9:35Davina McCall: Earl Grey.

9:36Michael Douglas: Which I haven't had one, but I'm going to have one tomorrow morning.

9:38Davina McCall: Yeah, great.

9:38Michael Douglas: But I was a bit unsure about the whole ashwagandha thing. Do you know anything about ashwagandha?

9:43Davina McCall: Only that it is supposed to be good for your mood and for sleep.

9:47Michael Douglas: Yeah, so people commonly take ashwagandha to reduce stress and anxiety, improve sleep, boost energy and stamina, support brain function and memory, help with hormone balance, including testosterone in some cases. This is from ChatGPT, by the way.

10:04Davina McCall: I've got to say. Yeah, I know what you're going to say. Okay.

10:08Michael Douglas: That was derived from ChatGPT, but it's from India, I think, ashwagandha. But they've started putting it all sorts of different things. But I think, remember those pills that we took for a while that were endorsed by Joe Rogan, were they called Focus or something?

10:24Davina McCall: Oh.

10:25Michael Douglas: Things for your mind and you've focused your brain. Nootropics. Yeah, they had ashwagandha in.

10:30Davina McCall: Yes. I mean, ashwagandha is used in a lot of herbal supplements and remedies and stuff like that.

10:35Michael Douglas: Yeah, remedies, yeah. I just like saying the word, to be honest. Yeah, it's nice.

10:37Davina McCall: Ashwagandha. There is, sorry, because I am an ambassador for Ancient Abraise, so I'm revealing that. Yeah, yeah. But they've got an ashwagandha supplement. Have they? Yeah. Nice. I would like to talk to you about a gallery that I found out about. And it's called Gallery 93. Well, it's called Hope 93. I really like that name. Yeah, Hope 93. It's good. It's in 54 East Castle Street. You know East Castle Street up in the West End? Of course I do, yeah. It's right in Fitzrovia, yeah. Yeah, so you know I've been walking around Fitzrovia quite a lot, like going to meetings and what have you, therapy.

11:13Davina McCall: Yeah, various therapeutic things, yeah. Various bits of therapy for me. And I walked past this gallery and I really liked it. And I just want to show you this painting. I love this painting. So Miss Anne Harriman is a photographer and had been taking photographs, is a kind of activist and did a photographic exhibition. And it's ended now.

11:41Michael Douglas: Yeah.

11:41Davina McCall: But it was until the 27th of March. But that looked like a really, really good gallery. And I just thought, oh, I'm going to go and look up some of the other artists that they've been doing. Well, I loved. And Emily Gilbanks, I just really, really enjoyed. Look at this. Sleeping next to things.

12:02Michael Douglas: Oh, my God. Isn't that great? Yeah.

12:05Davina McCall: I thought that was so us. And look at this one. It almost looks like she paints looking in a mirror.

12:12Michael Douglas: Are they paintings? Yeah. Are they photographs?

12:15Davina McCall: Yes. Well, they might be photographs. No, I think they are actual paintings.

12:20Michael Douglas: Really good.

12:21Davina McCall: They're oil on canvas. But they're just brilliantly, what would you call them?

12:27Michael Douglas: Beautiful.

12:28Davina McCall: Yes. Thank you. That's all right. Exactly that. This is Gretchen Andrew. These are sort of like beauty pageant, beauty queens. But they just have really brilliant different types of artists. They have art for collectors. They have pages for artists. they give kind of airtime on their website for championed artists but they just have a really brilliant gallery and vibe to them so they're called yeah hope 93 and it's called um uh the underneath hope 93 on their website it says a different art experience but look i mean even that I love the concept is basically sort of trying to strive for change look at that I love that painting yeah but also lift lift others as we climb and provide opportunities for everyone so it's about embracing other artists giving artists that potentially sometimes might not get a chance in other galleries giving them a go and having artists as a community yeah and trying to start a community for the gallery as well.

13:46Davina McCall: I really, really like them. I like people that do something a little bit different. So well done to Hope 93. And we will be popping in often.

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14:23Michael Douglas: Okay, so next up, let's talk about Legends.

14:26Davina McCall: Oh my God, yes. So good. Finished it last night. Yeah, it was great. Absolutely brilliant. I've got to say, you told me that you were going to message me when you started watching it.

14:39Michael Douglas: Yes, but I hadn't started watching it.

14:42Davina McCall: Oh, you said, I said, when are you going to start watching it? And you said, I'm doing it now. And I assumed that you were already halfway through. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I just started watching it when you started watching it.

14:53Michael Douglas: I actually fell asleep and then woke up and then watched the rest of it. All of it? Yeah, because I thought if you've watched it. No, no, like last night. Oh. Because I thought if you've watched it, I'll have to watch it. So Legends is a drama that's on Netflix. And it's got Steve Coogan in it, a bunch of other people. It's a true story about a kind of undercover customs and excise people that go and foil a massive import of heroin into Britain. It's a true story. Happens in the 1990s. And it was really good, was it not?

15:27Davina McCall: I mean, the acting, I thought that the quality of acting in it. But can I just big up Steve Coogan? He is so versatile. He can do anything. he was brilliant in a very serious part I mean Philomena was amazing as well he was absolutely incredible in that but this he's sensitive he is edgy because he's been there done that before and he's kind of you know got the t-shirt but all of the actors in it are absolutely brilliant but then it also not only is it a really enjoyable good old fashion spy thriller without tons of AI and kind of CGI in it. It's real. It's a real drama, gritty drama. Good old school drama.

16:16Davina McCall: But not only that, it makes you really appreciate spies. Oh, my God. I mean, who'd do that? It's so dangerous and frightening.

16:28Michael Douglas: The concept is that the legend is the act that you take on to become an undercover person. Yeah. So I quite like the fact that they call it legends rather than character or something like that. But that's what it is. Essentially, you have to become a completely different person. It's so believable, so ingrained in the idea that you are a drug smuggler, that you have to believe you are that as well. So you can't really go home and pretend to be somebody else and then come back and go back to being your legend. And I really got hold of that idea, you know, and I thought, oh, God, yeah. like you're risking your life and the lives of potentially hundreds of other people by dipping out of the character of the legend, you know.

17:10Davina McCall: But then at the same time, sometimes you really get why somebody's just like, I've got to come back for a bit. And then their partner might go, listen, don't come back until you finish because you are not yourself. It's really good. And I met somebody today who said that they just binge watched the whole of it. So I think it's hot right now.

17:35Michael Douglas: OK, yeah.

17:36Davina McCall: Like, you know, if you're not watching Legends, you're going to get left behind. Somebody's going to bring it up and you need to know about it.

17:44Michael Douglas: And if you were born in the 60s, 70s, early 80s, I think you'll really like it because there's so much kind of 90s nostalgia in it. All the stone roses and happy Mondays and all that stuff. you know it's largely based in Liverpool although there's bits in London they go to Turkey at one point Pakistan you know it's had a decent budget spent on it and I think Coogan's brilliant in it I mean he is Coogan you know so you'll probably go he's just doing Alan Partridge again but I just love Steve Coogan I didn't think he was at all he's absolutely brilliant

18:13Davina McCall: I thought he was really innovative and absolutely brilliant

18:16Michael Douglas: yeah no no I like him but I do read comments somewhere from some people kind of

18:21Davina McCall: really

18:22Michael Douglas: saying that

18:23Davina McCall: I mean it's got an 8 on IMDb and I've got to say Tom Burke was

18:31Michael Douglas: like breathtaking he was breathtaking in it Johnny Harris is in it as well he was in This Is England he's a brilliant actor I think he's absolutely great so the 6 episodes are about an hour each it's all on Netflix you can watch it all in one go it's brilliant you'll enjoy it

18:47Davina McCall: I have found something that I'm obsessed with And it turns out that we're practically related to her.

18:56Michael Douglas: Oh, yes. I remember you telling me about this.

18:59Davina McCall: So I accidentally on Instagram came across an account called The Glitter Store. And it's by a woman called Lily Burney. And I followed her and I reposted something because it literally made me so happy. And then she was like, oh, my God, it's you. I'm, you know, I'm so happy you followed and blah, blah, blah. Turns out she is married. Well, no, she is Simon from Dirty.

19:25Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah, the mushroom powder people. Yeah, yeah.

19:28Davina McCall: She is Simon's sister-in-law. She's married to Simon's brother. My goodness. So I am going to take you through her account and what she does because it's going to blow your mind.

19:43Michael Douglas: It's called Glitter Store.

19:43Davina McCall: Glitter Store.

19:44Michael Douglas: The Glitter Store.

19:45Davina McCall: The Glitter Store.com. But on Insta, it's just called The Glitter Store. Firstly, I just want to say, I've put this picture here. I put this picture here. I put this picture here because I wanted to keep the surprise for you. Okay. Because she is my kind of girl. Because look what Lily wears.

20:09Michael Douglas: High heels and socks.

20:10Davina McCall: High heels and socks. And a tie. And no trousers. I mean, she is a very sexy woman, but she is making glitter. Now, I love this woman because I basically am a magpie.

20:28Michael Douglas: Yeah, you like anything shiny. I think most women are magpies, but I'm just going to show you the kind of thing that she does.

20:37Davina McCall: So she will take a picture and either just glitter a little part of it, like either just the dress or something, or she can glitter. I don't know if you saw the puppy just then. I did see the dog. But you can glitter the whole picture and turn it into a poster or something. But she does it in an absolutely brilliant, stylish way. It's not like a five-year-old's done it. It's like a proper artist. And I want everything glittered. But now what she's done, she's a clever entrepreneur. She has made glitter kits and she does like glitter events where you go and you buy a glitter kit, you sit down and you take stuff and you glitter it and you learn how to do it and then you can do it yourself.

21:22Davina McCall: Glitter you. You and me. Yes. No, let's not get carried away again. But Michael.

21:29Michael Douglas: Yes.

21:31Davina McCall: But this woman, I absolutely love her. And guess who's following? Donna Ashworth. Simon Salter, obviously. Me and my HRT, you know, Cathy Proctor. Fern Cotton. Danny Minogue.

21:46Michael Douglas: Yeah.

21:47Davina McCall: Donna Ashworth, Alison Hammond, Georgie Swallow, Louise Pentland, Tana Ramsey, Limitless M. I mean, so many lovely people who I really, really, really, really like.

21:57Michael Douglas: Okay, I've got a follow-up. What's she called on Instagram?

22:00Davina McCall: She is called The Glitter Store. She, this is brilliant. And I love what you are doing. Well done, Lily. You are brilliant. And she makes me really happy. And if you go to theglitterstore.com online, theglitterstore.com, you can buy a glitter kit and it says Drop 3 is now live. So I love that. You can buy art prints. You can go to events. You can get gifts from there. She's brilliant.

22:33Michael Douglas: Very good.

22:34Davina McCall: It makes me really happy.

22:35Michael Douglas: I went for a scan this week. I probably told people last week or the week before I've had like a TMJ or something called Trismus, which is this kind of funny jaw problem. After I went to the dentist, I've not been able to open my jaw. So anyway, I panicked a bit this weekend because I opened it and it did something weird. So I went to get a scan yesterday. And in a panic, I just found anyone that could scan my jaw just in case, you know, something really bad was going to happen. It was really freaking me out. So I ended up on Harley Street and I went for this scan. So they did a scan of my teeth and all that stuff.

23:06Michael Douglas: and then they scanned my head. I'm going to show you some pictures of what they did. They honestly freaked me out like you wouldn't believe. Turns out the dentist or the jaw expert was in California, so I ended up on a call with him in California, but it was quite mad. But I know people at home can't see that, but that's my skull.

23:25Davina McCall: Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

23:30Michael Douglas: And then they went all the way through my whole head with this thing. Wow. But look at this, there's my tongue. Wow. It's the palate of my mouth. And that was that narrow airway down the back. So the reason I'm telling this people is he was saying that your teeth are protruding forward. And he said, but what that means is the teeth are coming forward and it's pushing your jaw backwards. So my jaw is, he says, is actually too far back, which means your tongue is too far back, which means that's the only space you've got to breathe. and he said what I'm suggesting is we bring this tooth forward and your this tooth backwards and your whole jaw would drop forward and your tongue will drop forward and this will open up at the back here and then he went on to say you know this is what's happening at the back of your neck because your jaw is pushing against here so you've got this vertebrae at the top of your spine here that's open he said do you feel tension in your neck

24:28Davina McCall: well you've talked about that a lot

24:30Michael Douglas: yeah and he's like yeah it's probably in your jaw and actually we realigned your jaw um but you know you've spent all that money on invisalign yeah i know and it would basically be invisalign again just to pull the bottom ones back in he said you don't need to do the top ones but he said the bottom ones are bringing your jaw would drop forward your tongue will sit in a much more relaxed position you'll take all that tension off the back of your neck i was like holy shit and i said yeah i'm interested and he said yeah well i'll do it it'd be eight and a half thousand pounds i was like yeah you're all right mate can you just fix my fucking jaw you know but it did get me thinking that I do get a lot of tension at the back of my neck and for the first time in life I've thought oh my goodness you know that I can actually see evidence of it I'm not suggesting people go and do this but I just thought I would drop that in as a little recommendation for at some point maybe if you're interested in going to look at your own jaw or teeth position and they now have this incredible scanning machine it's about 300 pounds

25:30Davina McCall: So you know what I want to do? I want to do what Leanne Rimes did and get my jaw released.

25:34Michael Douglas: Yeah, well, I think once I've got my TMJ sorted, I'm going to go and get this jaw released. I'd love to.

25:40Davina McCall: If you find out who that is, please tell us because I want to go.

25:43Michael Douglas: It's amazing, though, that I didn't really realise that your teeth have this knock-on effect of your tongue, your jaw, your spine, and then your posture, and then your whole body, you know, and I'm like, bloody hell. So I would like to get that done at some point. Anyway, just so you all know, the TMJ is doing well and I can open my mouth much wider than I could a week ago, which I'm delighted about. Me too. Whatever was happening on Saturday is not happening anymore.

26:10Davina McCall: I can now open pretty wide. Yeah, good.

26:13Michael Douglas: I mean, it's sore still, but it's loads better.

26:15Davina McCall: Yeah, well, that's miles better. Good. And I want to tell you about something called Lie Down and Listen. So, liedownandlisten.com is an amazing set of events. They go on around the world. you just have to look at lie down and listen dot com and then look up um england but they have um retreats and events they have a shop lie down and listen go to concerts places but places like the natural history museum places like that and do concerts so what you do is you're not sitting

26:45Michael Douglas: in a seat in an auditorium yeah you're lying down okay nice um to experience so this is lie

26:51Davina McCall: down and listen at the Natural History Museum.

26:57Davina McCall: So that, and they do sound baths. So I am going to, I can say this because I've really, I'm pretty sure that they don't listen, that there is a concert on the 30th and the 31st of May in Deep Sea Resonance Halley St. Peter's in Manchester and it's basically feeling the real amazing resonance of a cello in the soundproof space in Manchester and it's a cellist and a pianist and they'll be going through relaxing and uplifting sound healing and also there are things like I mean look at the spaces that they do it in in June there's one in Angels the Painted Hall in London extraordinary space and then also at the Bodleian Library in Oxford.

27:51Davina McCall: So they do sound baths as well, some classical concerts, some with various kind of different types of instruments. But it looks like the most unbelievably relaxing and enjoyable experience and there are loads of concerts happening all over the country. So do go and look at liedownandlisten.com.

28:13Michael Douglas: Yeah, fantastic. I think I will finish off with Galavant our favourite DJ has dropped a new set on SoundCloud

28:23Davina McCall: we love him and it's quite different for him yeah it is really

28:26Michael Douglas: I love it I've had a good few listens of it let me just find the name of it so it's called Galavant Helipad Afters Mexico City if you follow me on SoundCloud and go into my Bum Bum set list you'll find it at the bottom of that but you can just put gallivantus g-a-double-l-i-v-a-n-t-e-r so it's double l and it's uh they're all capitals apart from the i for some reason um because there's a few gallivantus on soundcloud but go and have a listen to that it's much more unlike the his usual set lists are um normally have lots of things like saxophones in and flutes and stuff like this is a lot more digital and a lot more poppy um it's got some familiar songs in there that you'll know as well there's some really edgy stuff as well there's some lovely beats going on in there it's an hour and 27 minutes i think so it's not too long can you play me a bit of your

29:23Davina McCall: favorite bit because i know you've always got bits that are your okay so it's about 34 minutes

29:28Michael Douglas: and it's got this thing that goes isn't it always at about 34 minutes that your favorite

29:35Davina McCall: my favourite bits

29:36Michael Douglas: and I said that to him I said did you know about half an hour into your set you do this thing where you put something in that's really good he was like no I didn't know that and I'm like yeah every time so oh

29:51Davina McCall: oh yes oh my god this is so good

29:55Michael Douglas: great innit oh my god oh I love this Michael

30:01Davina McCall: oh my god Michael that's so good

30:04Michael Douglas: I've said Shazam this song see if I can find it's a banger that but there's loads of good stuff in it so if you're looking for a new kind of ravey playlist to listen to that's a bit very good poppy and nice and edgy that was very good it's a banger yeah okay let's do a few shout outs before we finish up here I like to take my shout outs from Spotify at the moment there's a couple in here look at you let me have a little look making the cut it's quite nice can I just say something will you say that again making cut

30:34Davina McCall: no say it properly

30:35Michael Douglas: making the cut I love the way you say cut cut making the cut Kate Pink Smith says the Michael Jackson movie is amazing anyone sitting on the fence is watching the wrong movie to be honest watch it you won't be disappointed and Julie says hi guys fabulous podcast as always I'm going to miss you but we'll listen to past podcasts again every Friday to keep me going yeah you can do that

30:59Davina McCall: yes great

31:00Michael Douglas: that's pretty good isn't it we'll be back Coco Jagger was delighted

31:04Davina McCall: Oh, well, we're delighted. Everybody comments on my necklace. Yeah, it's great, isn't it? Everybody.

31:11Michael Douglas: Somebody says, FFS for fitness sake. Well done. It says, I'm recommending the Cholesterol Code on Amazon, an incredible documentary showing the power of diet and how low-carb diets can affect many health conditions. As a fit person who's not overweight and eats a good diet,

31:32Davina McCall: but as high cholesterol like you yeah i'm keen to find alternatives to taking statins which is

31:37Michael Douglas: what gps always suggest with no other alternatives to reduce cholesterol yeah okay i'm gonna watch

31:43Davina McCall: that yeah you'd like the cholesterol code yeah i've got to say i take statins and um i would be interested to just pass on to you as well that i've met three cardiovascular consultants who none of them have got high cholesterol and they take a statin as a preventative and I'm just thinking that they know something because they are cardiovascular consultants and specialists and I thought if they're taking it they must be alright

32:18Michael Douglas: We've got one here from Gary Brown this is our male listener one of

32:26Davina McCall: yeah we love you Gary

32:29Michael Douglas: He says, hi, glad you're both well. It's Gary Brown here. Can I recommend a magazine, please? It's called Detail, and it covers all aspects of modernism, or what's become known as mod. Remember, we were talking about mod the other day. I believe the term mod comes from the phrase modern jazz. But a lot of people think it's to do with modernism. But I could happily debate this with anybody, because I'm not 100 % sure. and it says it's the work of Claire Mahoney and it's available quarterly from detailmag.com detailmaguk.com the spring issue, spring 26 is guest edited by Paul Weller

33:10Davina McCall: oh is it?

33:11Michael Douglas: and it's worth reading thanks guys, crikey I'm going to have to get that you know me, I'm a big Paul Weller fan I love all that and Kathy Pickering says a quick recommendation on Netflix Remarkable Bright Creatures with Sally Fields we watched it tonight and it's such a lovely film

33:25Davina McCall: Oh Sally Fields is lovely

33:27Michael Douglas: Thanks Cathy Pickering There was other books on modernism On the word term mod that I read That said it actually comes from modern jazz Because mods listen to modern jazz And rockers listen to that music But I feel these things got merged somewhere down the line Anyway We're going to have a break Do you like my new shirt by the way?

33:49Davina McCall: Yes where's that from?

33:51Michael Douglas: Fix Is it? I got it adjusted I had it taken up on the sleeves

33:54Davina McCall: Oh, that's the one. Yeah, yeah. It's really nice.

33:58Michael Douglas: I could go bowling.

33:59Davina McCall: Yeah, it looks really, really good. It goes very nicely with your Judebu crystal.

34:06Michael Douglas: Yeah, I've got Judebu and Coco Jagger on there. And your present for me. A little present, yeah. Thanks very much. Pleasure. Anyway, folks, we'll take a few weeks off and then we'll be back soon. We love you.

34:16Davina McCall: Thanks for listening and thanks for being such good supporters of our pod. We really enjoy doing it and we love that you do. And we think by the autumn, this will be a live show. Yeah, we're going to do a live show, definitely.

34:28Michael Douglas: We'll keep you posted. Bye. Bye.

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