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Making The Cut with Davina McCall & Michael Douglas

24 Jul 2026 · 32m · 14 chapters

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SERIES 18: Episode 2 - Miss Me, Power Ballad, Once, TePe, Gilda, Sandro, Maje, Gel Inserts

In short

The episode is a mix of personal updates, media recommendations, and practical health/lifestyle tips. Guests/backgrounds: Davina McCall and Michael Douglas (married; discuss their December wedding and a “coffee rave” in Shoreditch with 300–400 attendees).

Key claims

Davina/Michael frame the wedding and live podcast events as celebratory and energizing. A major segment discusses Makita Oliver and Jordan Stevens’ podcast “Miss Me,” where Makita publicly apologizes to Fern Cotton for past unkindness driven by press-driven insecurity; the hosts argue that a heartfelt apology cleans your side of the street even if forgiveness isn’t immediate.

Notable examples

film reviews of “Power Ballad” (Paul Rudd; Nick Jonas; song theft conundrum) and “Once” (John Carney; Glenn Hansard). Health/lifestyle: flossing after meals for gum/cavity prevention and links to heart disease; toothpicks (TP) and sensitive-tooth brushing advice; “Gilda” snack (pickled chilli/olive/anchovy). Product/style: gel arch supports (Algunex), clothing sales (Sandro/Maje), and ring remodeling jewelry (Sam Ham Design).

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Chapters

1:00

Celebrating Their Wedding

Davina and Michael discuss their recent wedding and celebrations.

“about saying, why did he get married twice, these celebrities and all that?”
4:44

Makita Oliver and Healing Apologies

Discussion on Makita Oliver's public apology and its impact.

“I can't wait to come on it one day when I begin again.”
7:30

Insights on Apologies and Forgiveness

Exploring the complexities of giving and receiving apologies.

“And sometimes you don't realise that you're going to make this apology or announcement until you make it, but when you do, you can see how much it meant to her.”
10:45

Reviewing 'Power Ballad'

Michael shares a review of the film 'Power Ballad'.

“I had a big chat with Jordan at Happy Plays.”
13:20

Discussing 'Once' and Musical Films

The hosts discuss the film 'Once' and its musical impact.

“the guy who directed Once which is one of my favourite musical films I've ever seen.”
14:00

Discussion on the Film 'Once'

Explore the plot and music of the film 'Once' and its lead actor Glenn Hansard.

“But I don't know if you're familiar with this Glenn Hansel.”
15:58

The Importance of Dental Hygiene

Discuss essential dental hygiene practices and the link between oral health and overall health.

“So as I've got older, I've been going to the dentist and I keep hearing about the fact that flossing is really important.”
19:40

The Gilder Snack

Learn about the unique and delicious Gilder snack made from pickled chili, anchovies, and olives.

“You know, so it's like hot, cold, all that stuff.”
21:06

Fashion Recommendations: Sandro and Maje

Recommendations on stylish clothing brands Sandro and Maje, including current sales.

“Let me just press on that and see what we've got here.”
22:55

Foot Health and Gel Inserts

Discuss the impact of foot health on overall well-being and recommend gel inserts for comfort.

“Now, as you know, I've got like flat feet.”
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25:08

Jewelry Remodeling with Sam Ham

Discover the concept of jewelry remodeling and the work of designer Sam Ham.

“But also how an injury can affect your whole mood and demeanour.”
28:01

Nostalgic 90s Conversations

Explore the hosts' favorite 90s moments and cultural references.

30:21

Podcast and Film Recommendations

The hosts share funny and nostalgic recommendations for podcasts and films.

“for that gary that is mega that was really good oh should i read that one yeah if you don't mind um so this is from yvonne cunningham and um she said absolutely hilarious watch with your kids Mine are 22 and 20.”
32:29

Podcast Developments and Future Plans

The hosts discuss potential changes and improvements for the podcast.

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0:00Hello, I'm Monica Reinagle, host of the Nutrition Diva podcast. Summer is here and with it, the hot and sticky weather. A morning working in the garden, or maybe on the golf course, can leave you more depleted than you realize. And plain water isn't always the most efficient way to restore the balance. That's where liquid IV comes in. Its science-backed formula is clinically proven to hydrate faster than water alone. Whether you're exercising, playing outside, or simply surviving a summer heat wave, it's an easy way to stay hydrated. Shop now at liquidiv.com. Liquid IV, hydration that goes wherever life takes you.

0:42Michael Douglas: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, the Making the Cup podcast is back. Hi, I am Davina McCall. And I'm Michael Douglas. And we are married. We are married. I thought you were going to say we are Making the Cup podcast. We got married in December. that I noticed there was quite funny articles in the paper about saying, why did he get married twice, these celebrities and all that? And it was like, we didn't. We didn't. I think we should do a post about that on my Instagram. Oh, yeah, OK. Yeah, we just kind of celebrated the wedding because it was hard to celebrate in December. No, I would say we invited 11 people to our wedding and there were a lot of people we wanted to celebrate with, so we had a bit of a party.

1:22And that was it.

1:23Michael Douglas: That was it. It was a bloody good party, wasn't it? Yeah, it was very good. We had the Mighty Gallivant to come and play. DJ for us all. And it's been a bit of a dream of ours, really, talking to the Cavs. It was brilliant, wasn't it? It was really good fun. It was absolutely brilliant day. Well done us. Yeah, well done us. And Michael, can I just say, performed a song that you've dreamed of performing your entire life. Yes, I have. Which blew everybody's minds. I'm not going to tell them what it is. No. Just keep that for us. Keep that as a secret. Yeah, it's mine. Yeah, I love it. song. But yes, I was going to say that it took me every single bit of my dedication, practicing learning and concentration to do that.

2:06Michael Douglas: It has literally been the hardest thing I've ever done. And I have done some hard things. Well I appreciated it greatly. Yeah, well it was a lovely thing to achieve as well. I think that's what was quite interesting about it. Well I could see that. Yeah, yeah. You were very proud of yourself. Yeah, I was. I'm a bit bored with my life now. Yeah, what to do? Don't worry, I'll keep you busy. Okay, I'm going to learn another song. The last time we did this podcast was from the Happy Place Festival. Yes, which was great fun. It was really good fun, wasn't it? Yeah, and we're going to do more live. Yeah, that is the idea.

2:36Yeah, definitely.

2:36Michael Douglas: You've just done a live event this morning. I have. Oh, well, we could recommend that. Yeah, you could recommend that. So in a couple of months, we're going to do another one, but begin again, the podcast that I do. We thought that we would do a kind of not-for-profit coffee rave. So it started at 7am this morning and it ended at sort of 8.15. Yeah. And then everybody went to work. And it was an absolute hoot. There was a warm-up walk where people got to know each other and then 300, 400 people there. I can't believe how many people turned off. Honestly, people came from York. Really? People came from all over the country.

3:15They stayed the night. Really? The night before. It was. The DJ was amazing. We had a woman in a phenomenal rhinestone catsuit.

3:23Michael Douglas: Yeah. doing drums over the top. It was brilliant. Wow. Absolutely brilliant. Yeah. People travelled all that way to see you. No, well, everybody else, I think. Everybody on, all our followers. It was so nice. Okay, yeah, yeah. And where was the coffee shop? Or was it about... It was in Shoreditch. And it was brilliant because it had two floors. So the top floor just looked like a normal coffee shop. But you go down the stairs and that's where the rave was happening. and at the end of it I was like God what are we all going to do with ourselves I honestly felt like I needed to go and have a sort of an hour long debut like you used to need to do after you'd been clubbing it was so euphoric and people were just drinking coffee yeah it was mad wow I kept looking out at everybody going is this actually happening yeah it was brilliant yeah well done please come yeah of course I would have come this morning I was no but I was nervous as well.

4:22I just wanted to get one under my belt and then I was like, okay, now I'm going to invite everybody.

4:27Michael Douglas: Brilliant. Yeah, well done. Congratulations by the way. And it's a testament to begin again really. It must be doing well. There's so many people from all over the country who have made the effort to come. Well done on everything you've done on that podcast. Thank you, I really appreciate that. You should be very proud of it. It's fantastic. Thank you. I can't wait to come on it one day when I begin again. Michael, you are going to be my favourite guest ever. I can't wait to interview you now we just flicked on Making the Cook podcast and you said I want to talk about that because on the Instagram page of Making the Cook podcast there was something that came up which is Makita Oliver with Jordan I didn't know he had bleach there yeah so you know Jordan Stevens yeah he and Makita have a podcast together on Miss Me, the podcast that Makita Oliver and Jordan Stevens do.

5:24I just saw Makita and Andy Oliver for lunch and Sarah Hiscox and Naima. And we were all talking about this moment because it was really mega for Makita. And it is one of those things, you know where we talk about keeping your side of the street clean? So if something's bothering you and you've done something and it doesn't matter how long ago it was, but you need to address it, For your own mental health, do it. And Makita chose a very public platform to talk about something that had been bugging her, about Fern, talking about, like, how she may have not been as nice about Fern in the past as she could have been.

6:14The press was part of it. They used to call me ugly and dirty, and fat and i saw her as what a tv presenter should look like clean thin fat group and she scared me jordan yeah she made me feel like i wasn't in the right job like i shouldn't be there it wasn't her fault it was just i was told by the press that i wasn't right and she was right and i didn't mean to be awful to her and i think i think it made me that shit makes you turn on each other yeah it's horrible so it was really like it was really good for me to realize why i did that why i felt that why i felt that way about her why i wasn't nice to her it was unkind and it wasn't me and that message was really healing for me and i sent her so much love back and i knew she'd just been through a divorce and was on this new journey and i just said i wish you so much luck on your fucking new chapter it was just all love so actually me and fern got on a Fine.

7:19I'm glad that we actually played that because I couldn't have put that as brilliantly as she did. And this was very healing for Makita. And sometimes you don't realise that you're going to make this apology or announcement until you make it, but when you do, you can see how much it meant to her. And it means that she can let that go and it will not sit with her. And I thought, oh my God, what a brilliant example for other people to go and unpick the things that they did out of fear.

7:52Michael Douglas: Yeah, yeah. Out of fear and having been pushed to the limit. But Makita's not that person. And Fern did a beautiful thing there to reach out and say... Burst the bubble. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's funny how sometimes it just takes a long, long time, sometimes years, in order for the moment to arrive to be released from it. and you can't actually get released from it in year one or year two it just doesn't happen even if you say sorry unless the person's ready to forgive or unless the situation allows it to be released you don't get released from it I'm going to just say I disagree with you there because I actually feel that if you say sorry but the other person isn't ready to receive that sorry you are released from it you don't have to be forgiven If you hand on heart apologise for something that you did, your side of the street is clean.

8:49If they don't accept that, that's on them. But you have done your bit and really meant you're sorry. And you don't need to be forgiven by them because you forgive yourself. Yeah, yeah, okay.

9:05Michael Douglas: I'm not sure. I'd like to dig around in that a little bit. because I think sometimes enough time needs to pass for it to be. Oh, I completely agree. Yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is enough time has to pass, but you don't have to have that person's acceptance of your apology. I agree with that. You do the apology and you are clear. Yes, but as long as enough time has passed, I think. I don't know what you mean. Well, like you said... If a year has passed. Yeah, I think sometimes it can take years in order for you to forgive yourself. Yeah, but you wouldn't say sorry if you don't care. Yeah, I think a lot of people do because they think it will release them, but it doesn't necessarily.

9:50But that's what I mean by a heartfelt, honest apology. You have to become willing to make amends. You have to really want to say sorry, then say sorry, then your job is done. If you don't want to say sorry and you're just saying sorry because they're making you say it, that doesn't mean anything.

10:09Michael Douglas: I think the point I'm making really is the sorry isn't enough. There is a bunch of work to be done in order for the sorry to make sense or to release you. And sometimes that takes a long time, I think. Only through my own experience and then also having people say sorry to me and realising that I'm ready, you know, for the whole thing to go. Anyway, I thought this was great. Sorry, just very quickly. If somebody says sorry to you, then whether you're ready or not is up to you. But if the person is saying sorry and they really feel it, even if you're not ready, it doesn't matter. Yeah, okay. I don't.

10:44Yeah, yeah. That's what we learn.

10:46Michael Douglas: Anyway, it looks good. So is this a podcast? Yes. And it's called? Miss Me. Yeah, nice. I had a big chat with Jordan at Happy Plays. He's such a nice guy, isn't he? Mm. Yeah. we watched the film last night and it was called Power Ballad and I thought it was brilliant really, I thought it was a bit cheesy here and there but I did really enjoy this story so it's Paul Rudd and one of the Jonas brothers do you remember which one it is? Nick Jonas is it? I thought he owned Soho House anyway, Nick Jonas and Paul Rudd's character is in a band called Bride and Groove and they are a wedding band and they're very good but of course he's been a songwriter a long time and he's never made any success with the music that he's made and he's slightly heartbroken and he's a bit of a failed pop star but he is still doing the thing anyway, he sings at a wedding and Nick Jonas' character is there who plays a famous boy band pop star and they get up and sing together and have a lovely time and then they go on a bit of a bender and Paul Rudd's character shows him a song that he's written and it's called Without You.

11:59Michael Douglas: It's a great big ballad song. You know, it's really good. It turns out that Nick Jonas, sometime after that, steals the song and turns it into one of the biggest hit songs in the world. Yet Paul Rudd character has no comeback because there's no evidence that he wrote the song. So I love the conundrum in it. It's actually a story about truth, actually, rather than, you know, theft or music or anything like that because nobody particularly believes that he was the writer of this song you know and of course there's a lot of fraudsters out there constantly trying to sue musicians to say i wrote this song and you owe me money for it anyway i thought it was really good it's only 138 minutes um and the acting's very good the writing's very good let me just see what it rates on i am deburr power ballad here it is uh it's a 15 one hour 38 and it gets 6.8 which i think is an absolute fair score for it that's quite low because i really really loved it oh did you yeah it probably deserves a seven i would i think seven it's under two hours and it's a 6.8 so it fits into the category of a film that i would definitely watch lots of other band members in it and stuff like that they're also very funny it's actually set in ireland uh which i just assumed it would be in la and although our scenes from la most of it is in ireland and it's got a very nice irish flavour to it.

13:19Michael Douglas: It's actually directed by the guy who directed Once which is one of my favourite musical films I've ever seen. Have you seen Once? No. Oh my good God. Can we watch it tonight? Yeah. I'm not with you tonight, don't I think. You're going down to Tunbridge Wells, aren't you? Oh yeah, but we could watch it apart. Yeah, yeah, okay. But I'd like to watch it with you. It's a very kind of romantic-y movie. Okay. The singing in it is breathtaking in Once. If anyone's not seen it, the songs are fantastic and I can't remember the guy I've named in it I'm just looking for the director here so it's Director John Carney and he's done a lot of musical movies Sing Street Once Power Ballad Who's in Once?

14:04Michael Douglas: It's this guy here it's called Glenn Hanson I've never seen it That's right and she is a kind of Romanian immigrant a cleaner but she's a very beautiful singer and they team up and start making music together 7.8 it won an Oscar for Best Musical Film at the Oscars. Wow. One Hour 26 and 7.8. I mean, that's incredible. But I don't know if you're familiar with this Glenn Hansel. No. His voice is fantastic. Wow. And at the beginning of the film, he's busking. And he really lets rip and you're like, wow, what a voice, you know. But he sings a lot with Bono and Eddie Vedder and people like that. Oh, does he?

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15:57I want to talk about toothpicks and flossing. So as I've got older, I've been going to the dentist and I keep hearing about the fact that flossing is really important. and we must keep our teeth clean and dental hygiene and recessive gums. Yeah, gums have got a big problem with that. We talked last week about this new toothpaste that you can use that helps with your tooth enamel. But whenever I go to the dentist, they go, are you flossing? And I'm like, yeah, yeah. I've had Invisalign, so I've got the wires around the back of my teeth. So it's difficult for me to use wire unless it's on the back, you know, on the back back teeth.

16:39Yeah, yeah. so I use the TP flossing things I use orange ones because the gaps between my teeth are quite big they come in these quite handy little carriers which are quite discreet that you can take to a restaurant and I will get them out of my handbag and everybody nicks one because everybody's like oh my god we can floss our teeth but there are some very very good reasons why we should floss our teeth after every meal so one of them obviously these are the obvious ones cavity prevention and gum health and fresher breath we all know that food's stuck it can go off it can make our breath smell gum health is really important stopping inflammation and bleeding gums and reducing your risk of gum disease but it doesn't say here why gum disease is important to prevent and then cavity prevention clears the debris because that erodes tooth enamel and then we can't get tooth enamel back it never comes back but overall health is a really really big one and oral bacteria can enter the bloodstream and are connected to and we always are hearing about this word inflammation and this oral bacteria can cause systemic problems like bacteria and inflammation all of these things can contribute to heart disease and stroke and you just wouldn't think that your gum and teeth health would contribute to heart disease and strokes but it does and your mouth health is everything mouthwashes not so much that they're they're not as great as everybody thinks they are but for for oral health regular tooth brushing and and other and another thing i thought that was really important was the dentist said to me don't go too hard on the tooth brushing because that can also damage sensitive gums you know you think that you've got to scrub your teeth really well no you know going sensitive and making sure that you just do a good job of it two minutes sensitive brushing that's what i do but i take these toothpicks these tp toothpicks everywhere in the discreet packaging well done because you do encourage me with my

18:56Michael Douglas: teeth and I did read an article about how heart disease and oral hygiene is very closely linked yes you forget also that your mouth is like a gateway into your body don't you yes you know and you treat it with such disrespect sometimes you know and you think bloody hell and your gateway to sociability with other people you know if you talk to somebody and you've got bad breath people don't want to kind of look at you or they want to look away while you're talking because it's difficult for them to breathe. There's also this thing that your teeth are directly wired into your brain. Yeah. So the sensitivity of your teeth, the reason they're so sensitive is because the reaction is immediate.

19:36Michael Douglas: Yes. Because your teeth are there, your brain is there, and the nerves go straight in. Yes. You know, so it's like hot, cold, all that stuff. Wow. Yeah. You know, it's in your brain. You know, it's like straight away. Sensitive toothpaste is really helpful if you've got very sensitive teeth. That's that ozone stuff. That's what's so good about that. and it's instant. It's not a two-week job. So I was with me, Nate Pip, a while ago and he did this thing for me which is called the Gilder. The Gilder. The Gilder. Yeah. Now this is a pickled green chilli, an olive, one of these mazanella, mazanella olives?

20:10Manzanella.

20:11Michael Douglas: Manzanella olives and then a salty anchovy all on one skewer. I saw you eating these the other day. Yeah. And I was a bit like, I've only really just got into anchovies but I bloody love them now. I can't get enough of them. Yeah, it's amazing that, isn't it? I like crisps generally but as a snack now I will have fresh anchovies, olive oil, tiny splash of lemon juice and salt and then some Tabasco. Who are you? I have no idea. What have you done to me? That's not my thing. Yeah, it is. And then, but anyway, these go on a skewer so you get a cocktail stick, stick on an olive, stick on a chilli, stick on an anchovy and then I just put a little bit of balsamic or some lemon juice on there.

20:52Michael Douglas: That is my favourite snack at the moment. And apparently it's called a gilder. And it seems to be from Spain. I've noticed a lot of people are putting chopped garlic on there as well. Wow. A gilder pintux recipe. There's one here. Let me just press on that and see what we've got here. Wow. Look at that. You need to get some nice jarred pickled chillies. Yeah. They're quite hard to get hold of. I don't mean jalapenos. I mean the whole like small chilli But it usually comes in like a vinegary brine Okay, challenge accepted Yeah, okay And Sainsbury's do them in Tunbridge Wells But not all the Sainsbury's do them But that is my favourite snack at the moment And that's my little recommendation for you, ladies and gents I would like to now recommend two brands They are a bit spenny It's not Azara but it is Sandro and Marge.

21:50Now they are quite similar in style. So this is from Sandro. I bought a cardigan the other day with an attached denim collar. So it looks like you're wearing a denim shirt underneath the cardigan. And I also bought a brilliant play suit which has got a kind of, it's got a built-in, it's got shorts and then over the top a kind of skirt with like a wire in it that kind of makes it stick out. It's phenomenal. But what they've got at the moment are quite good sales because lots of shops are moving from spring, summer into kind of autumn. And there are some really good buys to be had online. So Marge, M-A-J-E, and Sandro, S-A-N-D-R-O, have got some really good online sales at the moment.

22:45So go and have a look at those. They are kind of what I would call smart cash, possibly workwear type clothing.

22:54Michael Douglas: Good. Now, as you know, I've got like flat feet. Yes. I've had this trapped, I mean, I've probably had this trapped in my ankle. For so long. For probably the best part of eight weeks. So maybe even when we last did the series of the podcast, I don't know if I was moaning about it then, but it was, if I moved my foot and my leg in a particular way, it was like a red hot knife going into my heel of my foot. And it's been depressing. Oh, it's been so depressing. Because I had a TMJ thing in my jaw. In your jaw. And I had this bloody thing in my foot. Anyway, it's just started to alleviate. But one of the things I did is put some arch supports in my shoes.

23:29Michael Douglas: Now, normally I put a whole insole in. But sometimes it squashes my feet in. In the shoes. Because the shoes are already tight. So I went to Amazon and I got these gel insert supports. And they've been absolutely brilliant. I put them in loads of things so little sticky things oh that's clever yeah yeah so the rest of the shoe is fine you don't need the whole sole but I just want the support under my arch and this is what's made the big difference to whatever this thing was no I couldn't get anyone to identify what it was really even experts osteopaths chiropractors they were like could be this could be that yes anyway it seemed like it could have been something called a sural nerve trapped that's what I when I did all the chat GPT thing on it and dug around that seemed to be it what's it called the sural nerve s-u-r-e-l maybe that's quite interesting and the nerve goes all the way down your back down your bum down your leg but it runs around the heel on the outside of the heel that's where it was now it could well be that the trapping of the nerve was in my back or somewhere else but the pain was in my foot that's the weird thing about it i didn't know how to release it but these things seems to have worked so this particular brand is called al gunix um you just spell that a l with a capital g u i r n e x and you get six pairs of these little gel pad ports supports and they're only 789 for all of them you glue them into your shoe and the difference it made is massive i can't believe the difference like you adjust your foot slightly it can release your knee, release your hips, release your back and take away stress and pressure off your body like you would not believe.

25:09But also how an injury can affect your whole mood

25:15Michael Douglas: and demeanour. So sad. You were really sad. And I do realise now that I'm getting older, I'm 53 at the moment, that actually this is not going to get better. It's just going to go fuck off. Yeah, well I'm basically going to really look after myself from a fitness point of view. I'm going to look after you too. Thank you but all the stretching and all the stuff you're meant to do, I'm really going to do it because I don't want to go there again. Do you know how annoying it is that you will always be five years younger than me? Me? I'll always be five years younger than you, Willa. Wow, amazing.

25:46Michael Douglas: That's brilliant news. For the rest of your whole life. But do you realise you'll always look ten years younger than me, you know, for the rest of your life, you know, so yeah, I know. I'll take that. I want to talk to you about Sam Ham design i'm going to show you something on here so sam ham is um sam ham design on instagram yeah um all one line no comma and it's s-a-m-h-a-m design and she is an independent irish fine jewelry designer but she specializes in ring remodeling and divorce jewelry now I love that no not that kind of ring no a ring that you wear on your finger but I love this idea that sometimes when people have you know got divorced and they've had an engagement ring that they love it and they don't want to get rid of it remodel the whole thing or like you know somebody might she does beautiful designs where she takes something and she'll put it into something else or something from a family member or combine a few things together yeah I was talking about Pippi I mean I love that one god it's so beautiful it's just they're quite simple modern designs but she absolutely takes into account what you want she weighs all the jewellery she puts it all onto some scales and then has this idea and comes up with an idea and gives it to the client.

27:31But these are two separate rings that could go together. She's got really innovative and interesting ideas and looks. But if you want to remodel something that you loved that has got bad juju the way that it is at the moment, but you still want to keep it, this is a great way of doing it of turning something that maybe had a negative connotation with it into something positive that you love

28:01Michael Douglas: it's a lovely idea and she's a lovely woman yeah great, the Instagram account is brilliant she's really, she's a good egg let's do a few shout outs this is from Gary Brown he's one of the very few men who listen but they always give some great recommendations and Gary, I totally agree with this, I've seen loads of it on Instagram but it says hi guys me again can i recommend a podcast it's called talk 90s to me by miranda sawyer and each episode calls covers a cultural aspect of a decade such as brit pop lads mags tv shows this life tfi friday if you experience the 90s it's well worth a listen thanks very much gary yes we are both very well um i heard her talking about paul the eights and michael hutchins recently and this brilliant story about how she'd gone to the nightclub in Paris the bandouche gone to the bandouche with Michael Hutchins when he was dating Paul Yeats and they bumped into Helena Christensen uh yeah and um she'd said she'd Miranda had said this lovely thing where she'd said you know you forget that these are human beings and actually it was very painful for Helena this nightclub and Michael was being very gentle about it all but these are real people and the story is just all over the newspapers and all that kind of stuff but she spoke so nicely of Michael Hutchence I really enjoyed it, I kept thinking I must listen to this podcast because it's about all these 90s things.

29:29It's your favourite thing

29:30Michael Douglas: I love the 90s, it was such a good decade so this thing happened to me in the 90s where I went to the electric ballroom saw Liam and Noel open for Ocean Corsi Chris Evans was there and Patsy Kensett and all that stuff it was just mad and I was 23 it was my 23rd birthday and I was like wow and the following morning I woke up and Chris Evans played I Am The Walrus by Ocean Colour Scene Wow Paul Weller Noel Gallagher and Liam in the centre of the the very epicentre of it all and I remember Chris said forget about the 60s the 90s is the greatest cultural explosion that there has ever been and I think he was absolutely right you know the 60s happened for one week in carnaby street for about five people you know but this was the whole nation and it originated in manchester in many ways so yeah the 90s were bloody bloody thanks so much for that gary that is mega that was really good oh should i read that one yeah if you don't mind um so this is from yvonne cunningham and um she said absolutely hilarious watch with your kids Mine are 22 and 20.

30:36Anyone that's been in family vacations forever, this is hilarious from the starting credits. Lots of awkward family holiday pics linked to National Lampoon Films. Oh, wow. But this is seriously worth a watch. Ignore IMDb and just watch Vacation on Netflix. Who's in it?

30:58Michael Douglas: Oh, my God. I wonder if it's a film or a series. Let's have a very quick look. Vacation. It's 2015. Oh, wow. So it's a film. I think I might have seen this. Oh, yeah, I think I might have done as well. One of them gets their testicles bit by a triangular. I can't remember. No, maybe I haven't seen it. Yeah, I have seen it. It is that. We are watching it. It is so good. I remember thinking, I can't wait to forget about this film so I can watch it again. Did you really? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, wait, that is a brilliant thing to think about a film. That is so good. Yeah, it's so brilliant, Yvonne, thank you so much.

31:38No, I thought it was National Lampoons.

31:39Michael Douglas: It's so like National Lampoons. It is bloody brilliant. Because Chevy Chase did one called... National Lampoons, Christmas Vacation. Christmas Vacation. European Vacation. Yeah, Christmas Vacation is all nice. Yeah, it's absolutely great. Let's have a little look. So this is from Kate Hobart. Oh, I love this one. Mind you to read this one, because this is a belter. love you both Kate from Hobart Australia here my recco that's so Australian yeah to abbreviate everything with an O that's why my nickname is Divbo Divbo and Alice's is Albo okay yeah she's Australian my recco is do yourself a favour and rediscover the Vicar of Dibley you are so right Katie so holds holds up right Don French brilliant great writing and actors laugh out loud goodness to override a tough world and I couldn't agree with you more Vicar of Dibley never goes out of fashion for our fun wedding party we should have got the Vicar of Dibley to to marry us you do her hair I forgot to ask we could just annoy the press and get married again let's do that let's annoy everyone so HV whoever that is is saying where are those red boots from please they were so amazing this is Fern Cotton's happy place yeah okay so my red boots were from Amazon so I just looked up rhinestone cowboy boots red yeah and you will find them oh great yeah that's it that's it it's as simple as that that's it that's it for this week folks hope you enjoyed that we did oh yeah we did what day is it today Wednesday it's Wednesday okay so this will go out on Friday yeah and Harriet has joined us for this you can say hello hi Harriet Hi Harriet Hello So Harriet's joining the gang And she's going to help us You know Kind of make this podcast More professional No Because we definitely Don't want to sound No Okay So we just kind of We want to grow it Grow it Yeah We want to get it To more people Yeah yeah And keep it Like it is Yeah yeah But maybe make it live Yeah Go live a bit And be more interactive And reach out Reach out Okay Lots of love everybody We love you Speak to you next week.

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