Ep 106 - Asim Chaudhry Reveals How People Just Do Nothing REALLY Started

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0:40So whether you're looking for barely there coverage or full glam, Sephora can help you find your match. Hey, what's up people? My name is Mo Gilligan and this is my podcast beginning, middle and end. Now I've got a real treat for you people, that's right. My guest is a British comedian, writer, director and actor best known as co-creator and star of BBC mockumentary People Just Do Nothing. In which he plays iconic comedy character Chapari G. Now we talk about making a film in Japan, his Hollywood career and also having one of Britain's most quoted characters. Please welcome to the podcast Asim Chowdhury.

1:20How you been? I'm not too bad bro. Yeah? Yeah not too bad man. Congrats on that. I just saw today, actually, Netflix. Yeah, man. Fried chicken thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's sick. Because you see me, yeah? So one of my favorite rappers of all time is Nas, right? We're that era, obviously. Real MCs. Yeah. And a very underrated Nas and Busta Rhymes song. It's called Fried Chicken. I know the track. You know that track. And Nas has got one line in it where he goes, Fried chicken, fly vixen, give me heart disease, but need you in my kitchen. You see that That's me bro I could give up Every meat Like honestly Beef, lamb, whatever Like But fried chicken And it has to do with Being a working class boy From house though Because it's not healthy We grew up on it But And my missus goes mad at me Especially since I had the U She's like You have to look after yourself You can't be eating Cave, sea fried But it is my weakness bro So that's the thing When I I've done that doc We filmed that last year Last year's summer Just before my Daughter had come Right So going into it I was like I would never do it again Put it that way Really?

2:29So how long it was How long did you eat Fried chicken for? 28 days Breakfast, lunch and dinner Yeah bro I did that shit for free man I was like Netflix paid you bro I do that shit for free No but that's meant Wait wait So what How would you Without giving away too much For the doc Because obviously we want People to watch it But like what would you Would it be a different Type of fried chicken For like Would you Like in the morning What would you eat? Fried chicken cornflakes Like what is Oh no no So I'd literally wait for the chicken shop To be open at 10.30, 11 o 'clock I've never been to the chicken shop at that time Never?

2:59I didn't even know they opened that time Yeah yeah yeah But like to go there at that time And wait for it to be open Felt like a crackhead Yeah It's the only way I can describe it I swear to you bruv It was like But what would you have? What meal would you have? So I would just get like Probably like four wings and chips Okay Yeah four wings and chips Or like sometimes I'd change up the next day Two piece of chicken or chicken burger But like Eating that food You'll see it when it comes out Yeah I can't wait to see it And always fried You couldn't go for a cheeky little grilled No no Has to be fried Has to be fried Has to be fried Didn't go gym No supplements Couldn't work out That's dangerous man Couldn't work out Do you know what's mad You know like sometimes you do stuff yeah And you're like Yeah man I'm enjoying this thing And I don't know if you ever had this Where like you're by yourself And there's like a thought And it says What the fuck are we fucking doing in here what the fuck is going on that was me bruv on this journey innit yeah yeah but you know when you posted it I was like that's mad but then I read your description and I thought actually this is important yeah yeah yeah because that's what I'm saying like it's my weakness and it literally like I wanted to have some fried chicken today yeah yeah yeah and I thought nah actually it's butters and this heat but you know what I mean got the you and I know my and it's almost like became my little dirty secret you know what I mean sneaking a little KFC sometimes my missus will see it on the ring what did you order nah just Pepe's grilled meal like you know and even now i try and justify like you're having all right you're having grilled chicken but then you also got chips yeah and you might have a side order of three fried wings strawberry mirinda yeah oh my but it is um it is like my missus says to me she's like you work so hard and you know you and you are living better i have lost weight i do try and look after myself especially after the you you want to be around you know i mean especially it's being a bit of an older dad for for like modern like obviously back in the day our parents were like my mom was 18 you know i mean you think okay i'm 39 like when i'm when i'm 60 my youth's gonna be 20 so i want to be okay and yeah yeah of course man so it's like she said but you're she went you're that kind of those habits are actually and she's from like you know we're we're both working class like originally but she said that's somewhat of like a trauma class thing that that would be the easiest option to do to go get some fried chicken down the street you know it's two pounds it's cheap yeah it's cheap and it's it's built with a lot of nostalgia to it yeah so because you went there when you were young or your friends or like you know boss man do you know what i mean you're like what are you saying boss you're right like yeah there's a lot to unpack in the dock well i was such a fat shit as well back in the day i remember my local my local kebab shop yeah they had a meal named after me asked him special that's how fat i was yeah Because you grew up in Hounslow, right?

5:43Yeah, yeah. Your hounds are like boiling bread. Yeah, yeah. You rep Hounslow still. And if you go back there now, it's weird. I did a Google advert for them, actually. I kind of repaid them back after, you know, but my meal is... Were they the ones in COVID? Where they were like trying to... Like, because I've done one in COVID. It might have been, yeah. Because I've done one for my barber and it was in Camberwell about doing Google reviews. Yes. We've done it in the barber shop. It was the same campaign. It was the same campaign. Yes. But I remember I did that and my meal was this grilled chicken sandwich which was delicious, but chips.

6:09But here's the thing that makes me a true fatty Donner meat on top of the chips It's Bang stuff bro And they're chilli sauce You know the Turkish man You know they make their own homemade thing Yeah yeah yeah But horrible and terrible as well Do you know what's mad at you say that? Because like We used to like play football And on a Saturday There was a fish and chip shop And used to have kebab meat But like We'd have it on like So you get the chips It's like you get it with the chips With the chilli sauce Yeah But like I'm talking old school bag of chips With like the salt and vinegar Yeah And it was mad because I used to be like, Rob, we just done something really like, we just played sports, you know what I mean?

6:44Like really healthy, just beat this team. We've been running around 15, 16 year olds. And now we're just eating a bag of grease. But that was standard though back in the day. And I remember like, this is a weird one actually, speaking about your documentary. I remember I pitched a documentary that I was actually going to do. Like we started developing it and then it kind of didn't go anywhere. But I've always been fascinated by, like look at our South Asian man, right? Like we, we, we've been here for a long time, you know, like, you know, a lot of immigrant groups, we've built ourselves up, you know, we're now second, third generation.

7:16Yeah. You know, we're part of, we're in every pocket of culture, you know, from music, fashion, food, everything. The one thing I've always thought, which has always baffled me, why has there never been a South Asian Premier League star? And I mean, listen, I mean thoroughbred. No, no, Michael Chopra, no mixed race brother, you know, no, no, no, the Bangladeshi brother. like he had the blackening which made him good you know what I mean I'm telling you and this goes back to what we were talking about playing football with the lads in Houser I grew up with ballers bro Asian ballers techie strong but they'd have zoots at half time or go don and kebab at full time right and my show was my documentary was going to be called The Great Brown Hope and it was it was going to find out why it hasn't happened like is it this systemic racism is it parents not pushing because that's true as well a lot of parents go you're going to be a footballer yeah in the asian household they'll be like you're dreaming because it doesn't exist yeah man we haven't seen it so i wanted to you know explore that and the title was from jack johnson the old heavyweight boxer the first ever black heavyweight boxer in the late 19 early 1900s and all the white boxers in america refused to fight him they drew the race line it was called because they knew he was so good and they couldn't have a black man being the world champion because being the heavy World Champion What does that mean That means you're basically The sickest prayer alive You're the strongest man The strongest man So they drew the race line For years and years And years Until Someone decided To fight him And they had an epic fight And Jack Johnson Destroyed him Then for I can't remember how long But for a long long time They tried to find A white fighter To beat him To reclaim the white Supremacy And it was called The Great White Hope That's what they were looking for There's an incredible book Called Unforgivable Blackness which is about Jack Johnson there's a couple of movies been made about him as well incredible character he used to drive sports cars back in the day like in the late 1800s and he'd only he'd exclusively date white women and he used to get arrested for dating white women because yeah it was considered as like human trafficking almost because of the racism and he actually died in a car crash but check this swag from him yeah he used to he got stopped by feds right and he's speeding in his old school sports car and he said how much is the fine and he paid it and he went how much is the fine to go on the way back.

9:35He paid double because he's going to speed back. But he was incredible. So it was taken from that kind of how do we find this person? But I genuinely want to know why has there never been? Because think about it. If there was some Singh, Patel, Khan, British born in the Premier League, he would be a megastar. Yeah, because there was like, it's interesting with like world economics and football at the moment with the World Cup. And people are like, Oh like two of the biggest Like nations Are not At this World Cup China and India Right And everyone was like How is that It's true Do you know what I mean Not to say that China Have not been in the World Cup before But they're not known for Yeah But I think it's so interesting Of just like You know Two Two nations who have The most people Billions Yeah Are not in You can't find one baller Yeah Yeah yeah They're not in the biggest Football competition of the world Do you know what I mean And it's Yeah considering if you think of like Olympics is different because there's a sport in there for everyone when it's Olympics, but football feels like the every person's sport.

10:40Do you know what I mean? It's one of the biggest global sports that everybody watches. Do you know what I mean? That would have been dope though, man. Yeah. I mean, I've got a little brother who's, he's 19 now, but ever since he was 12 or 13, he's always wanted to be a footballer. Like that was his, and he's really good. But you know, you know what it's like at that level. I'm saying, you know what it's like like you're a footballer but i'm saying i know you mean that you have to be even 12 is old 12 is old and he's had scouts he meant he just you know he just didn't really get that that shot and then even i was saying to him look bro he's a really good looking boy as well right i know he's got good personality very techie i knew that i said listen bro why don't we you can go into the other route go into youtube like you know those guys five guys it's a lot of money in that yeah i can help you out whatever and he went nah bro i want to be a serious baller i want to be a proper premier league and i was like the documentary was going to be around because he was young then he was like 12 or whatever was going to be focusing on him as well and his journey you know i mean but then it goes to show you man like you know he's 19 now and he didn't make it yeah and actually now he's somewhat accepted it now he's like working and you know but it is a bit heartbreaking because you know in our industry as well like if you didn't do the things that you did right and you're still doing and the things i didn't people people look at us and they go, oh, it's possible.

11:52Yeah. Like the Mandem did it. You know what I mean? Like they created something from nothing. They got on this show, this show, that show and man's got Netflix documentaries. You know what I mean? And little black boys will look at you and go, bro, Mo did it. We can do it. Same thing with me. Little Asian boys, they're in our industry in terms of the arts now. There's nothing holding us back now, but football, why? Yeah. You know? It's definitely, I think what I've realised as I've got older, like I think I didn't understand how hard it was to be a footballer. I just thought it was almost like there's a guy in the park who's going to basically, do you know what I mean?

12:26Come and scout you. That's it. You train. And then if you're good, you're going to probably make it and get into the first team. And it's until I meet some of these footballers and they tell you like, yeah, like I got scouted at six or eight years old. And you see how hard it is, but also you see the people's stories who didn't make it. Oh, yeah. And you're like, rah. And I think, you know, what was really interesting? like you know I support Arsenal right you're a Newcastle fan yeah yeah yeah what I think is really interesting with like Ebrech's Eze's story is that his story is this story of rejection to then make it and I think he had this really interesting story of like oh Ra you were so good you turned out so good that you've made it back to the place that rejected you so I felt like everyone almost like I just like this story and I kind of like him just for that of course he had that tune let it all work out yeah yeah yeah but i definitely is yeah that'll be a documentary though there's still legs in it i think you know what it is it's um rejection is so hard for us to to face but it's also essential but i think you know the football rejection it hurts so deep because it goes back think about it what does every little boy want to be a footballer right Or, I don't know, boxer or rapper.

13:43But really, I think as a British boy, you grow up, Euro 96, that was your dream. You watch the Premier League and we live it. It's our culture. It's so, like, I remember there was, I read this, I can't remember, it was an article or something, but it was about this Indian man who came to visit England for the weekend. And he was like, you know, and he said that, you know, it's not really a religious country. He said, but they do have these kind of, they're kind of like cathedrals. See, when they call football stadiums and people go and worship there and that is their God. and that is the truth like if you think about it it's not really a Christian country right like you know I know officially it is but the religion in this country is football and I was I watched England the other night it was the first night I proper went out since baby right and I did the proper proper all night rode home drunk on the line by 5am like still like fucking out but man I tell you what and in recent times I felt like we've been very divided as a nation and the flag especially because you know I think that that flag in the last few years has symbolized something that I don't recognise you know what I mean like growing up I'd proudly wave that flag you know where I'm from I grew up with a lot of Asians but a lot of white people as well it might down the road from where I live there's a council estate and there's a video actually of my Instagram and it was on the news because they had St.

14:55George's flags up everywhere like I remember going there in the Euros yeah I went there in the Euros with my little brothers actually and one of them had his hair dyed a filthode and all that we were there and I saw this one geezer and if you judged him by the you know he was this white geezer tats gold teeth and that and he came out he went shabani and he went fucking hell mate local boy he had my book i signed the book surrounded by england flags and i thought back then that's what that meant then yeah now if you go to a you know you know when you start seeing the flags what does it mean i've been touring up and down the country you've seen it and sometimes you do get into a town and you're like oh yeah okay and it's funny because like i've done shows where you know before you even get to the show you're seeing it as soon as you get in and you're like oh right like and then it's it's until i'm on stage i do have to address the elephant in the room right you know what i mean yeah i don't know if you guys wanted me here you know after all those flags i see but also realizing they're coming to see a black man as well do you know what i mean yeah listen but it's weird because everyone's sitting there laughing but it's like i do have to address the elephant in the room here in your town but that's the beautiful thing about comedy and football yeah yeah yeah it brings us together like you can go into a racist town right i'm of course in all races but you feel the energy you know what it's like yeah and you can make some jokes about that and they you know whether they laughing with you at you whatever it is you're sharing a moment together you're you're acknowledging the elephant in the room right yeah yeah but that's what i felt on on on sunday night i i felt for the first time in a long time i felt a real unity in that pub right and there was you know there's all kinds of people in that pub but and i think the reason why is because of how like kind of up and down the mattress we actually went through something together yeah and it felt like you know what at that moment i felt like it was euro 96 again i felt like it was 2018 you know i mean i felt like that unity that i haven't felt for a long time and i hope this is the beginning of reclaiming the flag back because i think the way it's been used it's just heartbreaking man because but we did need a game we needed a game well to be fair when this comes out we might be at a competition we might have won it we might be world champions we might be talking like bro what are you what are you talking about but you know I think what's always interesting with ever England play people who are not into football are into football but what I do enjoy about this world cup it reminds me of the world cup in do you remember Japan yeah because we've got these games that are like times that you don't watch football do you know what I mean like I don't mind watching a game at like 9 o 'clock 10 pushing it do you know what I mean but like midnight it's almost a thing like on Monday morning everyone was like which game last night oh god I fell asleep but then what I woke up to it was just filled with that and it just I seen a clip on the news where like kids got to watch in school and they didn't know the result so all these little kids are like 9 years old and they're like I don't know yeah they're all screaming it's like what was the World Cup when I think it was South Africa because like yeah I was in school but I remember we yeah we watched some games in school during that as well and it had that you know what it is it's a shared moment as well and we don't have many of them anymore because everything's online so people watch things at different times so back in the day it would be like I don't know you'd watch Big Brother and it would be like The Mad Thing Jade Goody Shilpa Shay next day at work everyone's talking about now it's like people watch stuff so actually Who Shot Phil and all that kind of stuff but now there's a disconnect because people are just doing their own on their own timeline event event tv just doesn't exist yeah but football because you can't watch the you know that's happening then yeah you want to watch it live as well yeah yeah speaking of tv yeah like your how you started in tv was quite interesting because you used to do that plays in school and stuff right yeah like a godfather play or something like this basically i mean that's wild by the way yeah now you know what i was never like a like an artsy kid i was never a theater kid or anything i was actually i was always creative but my creativity was seen as a problem like from from my mom to my dad they just thought i was fucking around right yeah even when i was rapping in or making albums they thought he's wasting his time right um and my drama and i always say this i did drama because i thought actually it would be a bit of a dos but actually i've always been creative in terms of storytelling and characters or whatever right so my drama teacher she you know like some teachers no matter what you do you know that you can get away with murder and they're gonna love you they'll be like oh that's him you you'd be like you're a bitch miss and they're like oh he's so cheeky i had a couple of those but this teacher was the opposite yeah if you breathe wrong you're getting detention she just she didn't like the cut of my jib i think it's because i was a very carefree student and i walk in i was stoned a lot of the time i was probably a bit of a nightmare right come in late try and chat to girls be the class clown or whatever but actually i was also really fun and i was actually trying to be good at this this you know in the class and come up with ideas anyway what happened is that um my mate who looks quite like me right he's just some default fat asian bro basically he looks just like me he threw a rubber at the missus at missus head yeah the teacher's head she turned around and obviously she thought it was me because she hates me she went ass him come here now give me you acted like she'd been shot as well give me your diary this and that took me to the head teacher and obviously I didn't snitch on my mate, I took it.

20:20And then she went, okay, I'm going to kick you, I'm kicking you out of the class. And I went, no, but miss, this is my GCSE, like this is probably the only GCSE I'm going to get this in English. Please like, give me a second chance. No, no. Okay. I'll tell you what, you have to earn your grade back. You come to class every day on time and you, you help the team. And if you, if you do well, I might grade you. So I actually took that as serious. I needed that kick up the ass. Yeah, So I went there every day. I wrote my group's play. I directed it. I gave myself a really small part. And it was a rendition of The Godfather.

20:50It was called The Poppadon Father. And it was very funny, very silly, but some really sweet moments in it as well. And it won the best play. We got an A. And then my group actually, then she said, I'm still not going to grade you. She went, your attitude's still wrong. My group wrote a letter to the teacher begging for her to grade me. And she still didn't grade me. so she gave me a U right so I left school with one GCSE an English GCSE because my English teacher was a G me and you both bro yeah but that's what I'm saying I only got an A still that was it yeah so yeah so from an early stage but what that actually did and that's the the power that teachers have see a bad teacher can actually knock your confidence because after that I didn't think about acting once I didn't think about anything I would always do creative stuff but I thought in terms of acting nah it's not for me like I'll go behind the scenes I'm not going to act right because that was a big you know you really prove yourself for the whole year and you still get knocked back and you're like well what's the point then I'm not going to try you know on the flip side my English teacher Mr.

21:48Walsh he's a G still in touch with him he was like this cool Arsenal supporter I remember and he used to wear these shades that would go dark you know like glasses but like go dark and we all thought he was a pothead I was like sir he's stoned and I remember because I used to rap back in the day right and I remember I gave him my mixtape and he'd always get quite frustrated with me because he'd be like you're messing around too much because but you've got you've got potential i've seen your stories i've read your poems you're a really good writer so and he heard my rap cd and back then it was like you know year eight year nine and i was rapping with american accent you know like back in the day you know i was like and he was going and he remember he laughed and he goes this is shit because but let me ask you a question because there's potential because why are you rapping in an american accent and i went because that's the music i listen to and he was like but you're from hounslow because i've heard the way you lot speak he goes you should rap how you speak because rap is just another word for speaking let me rap to you you know and he and just that small little thing he taught me be yourself be confident and he helped me so much and he changed i mean if any if it wasn't for him i wouldn't be writing and all this stuff i wouldn't be here so that's the power of a good teacher and the power of a bad teacher is that bitch right who obviously i'm over completely i'm not bitter about it but she knocked my confidence so much that i didn't start acting till you know 26 27 once we started people just nothing and even that was i was kind of forced into it i didn't really want to do it because you guys had known each other before right yeah we met in college is it media studies right yeah i've met west thames yeah didn't you guys work on a is it a phone what was it called again a phone call center call center then you guys work together as well yeah we did so you kind of is that where you kind of built a rapport in terms of like, right, like we kind of vibe with each other, work with each other.

23:28Yeah. It kind of, it all stems from music because we were like, we were all potheads, right? And the call center job kind of came after, after we all knew each other. We all got each other the job there. And I think, I think Hugo had the job first and then he got us the job and then we all got fired one by one as well because we would do stupid voices and you know, like, yes, yeah, yeah. And like, you know, I remember SIPA used to do like, you know, like, yo, what up? We were selling like Salmon and Trout magazine. it'd be like yo what up baby this is ghost face killer i'm calling from the sam like just crazy shit and then but we all got fired because the calls were recorded obviously so they were like yeah yeah but um yeah we all knew each other from college man and that kind of stuff happened from instead of us doing like what we were supposed to be doing which was like making music and hip-hop and all that stuff we would fuck around and we would do skits for our albums or pranking was a big one as well yeah i don't know when pranking used to be a proper like brother i've number and the best pranks will be when you have it in yeah you know when you're like i've got some so he won't just hang up yeah i know someone he knows so that gets us in and we used to just do that all the time and record all of them yeah so that's i think that's that was the basis of that comedy what was that your go-to prank that like used to be like well there was i used to do very early version of chibuddy right really and yeah it was for my skit for my album my album was called spleen tapes right and spleen was like a term for a zoop we used to say spark the spleen up so what i would try to do is i would try and call up different places like uh qvc i remember we used to call up a few brothels as well but i'd call them up as chabadi and and the the the the kind of task was to try and get them to say spleen tapes yeah yeah right and then loop that bit and then the song comes in so i'd be like all right darling tell me what lovely ladies you got for me today and it'd be like some polish woman like yeah we have Olga she's 22 very you know and I'll be like yeah she's very clean yeah very clean take a shower yeah yeah she cleans she takes a shower and then I'll go I'll try and get in and I'll be like yeah she uh does she do this the um the spleen tape sexual position spleen tapes she goes the what spleen tapes spleen tape yeah she went yeah yeah she do so that was that was kind of it but I mean Sipa was the king of the pranks he would have so many different ones he'd call up rappers yeah he'd play like a posh uh a and r hey man just heard the new single you've uploaded to myspace and like you know and then because we have an in he'll be like i know ben and he'll be like oh right well ben give you the number yeah look i think you've got something there buddy you've got some great bars and then he'll push it and he'll be like how about you just come around and maybe you spit some bars for me and i've got some wine we'll have some lasagna and he'll be like okay that's a bit weird Like, but, um, what?

26:07So come to your yard now, like? It was hilarious, man. But yeah, you know, you must have been a pranker as well. You must have had your... Because when we were younger, I used to do this girl's voice, innit? So like, basically, like, we'd call up a friend and I'd be like, hello. And then like, he'd ask me, like, hello, who's this? He's like, you don't remember me now. And he'd be like, nah. He'd be like, I met you at Carnival and you're just going to start remembering me. Classic. And everyone would be like, oh, yeah. What's your name again? My name is Shadika Oh my gosh I'm actually reading here No I'm sorry I'm sorry And me and my friends Would be bussing up On the phone man That used to always Whenever I do that one That voice Yeah yeah yeah Literally like The matter black My friends And I'd be like Bro Shalat it's me man You're the kid man Why are you doing that man You're a fucking idiot man Or if it's not that one Then you call up someone Hey brother who's this Jimmy who's this Brother you got my girl's number In your phone The classic I don't care bro I'll tell you what yeah Link me now the ones that bite are the best the ones that bite are the absolute best man yeah no so when you're doing like when you started doing the stuff with like did you ever know what it was gonna be or was it just like vibing with your friends because you know i had a bunch of friends and this is you know we had just left school and they were doing music and i'd be around them i didn't do any music but again i was always i liked music they always liked my opinions and stuff but we we were all just at a time where we were just like we all lived at um you know our mum's house and stuff we're all on job seekers allowance yeah and you have you don't have any what's the word i'm looking for you don't you know you're not locked into paying rent or anything do you know what i mean you're like you just like pay my phone bill pay my rent just trying to work out simple time was that the same time for you as well well we were a little bit later i would say like we i definitely was you know we were definitely broke you know that's for sure it was frustrating though because i went to uni right and even though i did so badly at school as soon as i started doing media studies and i started enjoying what i was doing and it was actually creative and we were making films and music videos and i was like wow this is sick like so what like i can just make a short film and that would be my grade and i have to write about it i'd love that yeah so then i started doing well and then obviously i met i met the boys and you know then you then you and actually college was so different as well because i remember the first time i went to college and i remember one of my teachers was a rainian woman i loved her she was so lovely to me like proper believed in me remember the first day i was like i was 16 and i was like it's all right if i because in school you have to hide your smoking whatever and she smoked a cigarette and she was like yeah she goes you're 16 she goes you're in college and then i remember i i was like not showing up for a few lessons she had this she had a chat with me she's like listen she goes this isn't school she was like if you don't want to come into class like no one's going to chase you she was like you're 16 now you're older yeah yeah you don't you don't have to go to you don't have to be in education she was like so if you want to fuck it up you can fuck it up no one's going to chase you like in school they'll send letters and do that because it's the law so and then i was like bro okay so there's there's a sense of responsibility hey guys it's drew from the comment section some days my skin just needs a little coverage and other days I want to go full glam.

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29:59So whether you're looking for barely there coverage or full glam, Sephora can help you find your match. Car crashes injure over a million of us every year because we're human. For over a decade, Waymo's been building a driver that's safer. Statistically 10 times safer in the cities we serve not because humans aren't enough but because they're everything based on over a 94 reduction in serious injury or worse crash rates learn more at waymo.com yeah but it's like but what am i doing because i'm actually really enjoying this so i'm self sabotaging it was a real pivotal moment for me and then i got really good grades in college and i went on to do uh film studies at uni and then after that and i got my degree i was there like 21 22 with a degree i had a camera i bought i was telling your your manager i bought a canon 5d mark ii back in the day which like now these are the standards they're kind of photography cameras back then everyone had the dv cams remember like you know everyone had those cameras and that's like you're official if you got those but i rocked up with this the canon 5d mark ii which was a revolutionary camera because the quality that you got out of that because you're filming through photography lenses right but the quality was insane right so i was filming it everyone's like like, look at that, that looks sick.

31:22So I started making music videos, doing weddings. I was hustling, right? And then one of those things was people just nothing. I had a YouTube channel. And then, you know, we started filming these little sketches, but like very sporadically. Like our output was fucking ridiculous. It was like four webisodes in like three years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's kind of because we were just fucking around. And like we filmed it. And then it was like a year later, I was like, should I edit this? You know, so it wasn't a thing of like, so then nothing really happened until we were like 25 26 26 was when i got the when we got the pilot commissioned so that yeah i mean that's a you know that's quite a late bloomer and then you know but i was kind of grateful in that way because before that we lived a lot of real life so when whatever comes to success fame money we already were kind of you know reaching our 30s and we kind of experienced that success a bit later on which i think grounded us a little bit and it keeps you a bit more rooted in reality.

32:20You know what I mean? So yeah, it wasn't, you know, when people see us on TV and that, they think, like, bro, even you, man. Like, you know what I mean? When you've got your own show, the work you did before all of that, like, you know, it was graft. You know what I mean? And it's like, I always think the cream rises to the top, man. But it's like, people don't always see that. They just see the cream at the top. They don't see all this shit that you had to go through. So yeah, it was a long journey, man. but I think it's better at that way. You kind of appreciate it when you do achieve something at the end of it.

32:51And I think as well, it makes you, I've always found anyway, like once I got older, I'm in a place where I kind of know where I want to go at this age. You know, like for me, even like getting my show a bit like 29, 30 and stuff, I'm like, cool, I've got this idea and that idea and that idea. And who I was mentally when I was 19, 20, I wasn't that person Do you know what I mean? If you would have given me A bit of money And a little bit of success at 20 Oh my god I'd be a fucking crackhead or something I'd be yeah bro I swear to you Because it's like I And look I guess it's different Because when we were 20 We didn't have social media How it is now Yeah yeah yeah But you know when I see young people now And they're hugely successful At an early age And I'm like Rah you've got everything Yeah You ain't even been to the rave And really moved to girls yet Like Because obviously everybody knows who you are.

33:46Yeah. And you haven't been called butters yet. Yeah. You know what I mean? Rejected by a girl because you're. It's all of those things. It's all of those like. It's character building. You know, like even small things of like going out raving this time of year, let's say like July and the club finishes at four, five a.m. going on a night bus home. Yeah. And it's still bright. Yeah. It's like, what the, why? Why are we out so late? Yeah. But almost it felt like, but I can't go sleep. Yeah. And I know it's different for a different generation. There are some young people that watch this and they're like, we don't, the clubs you went to are closed down now.

34:20Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think there's things that give you levels without feeling like you must skip them. And I think having success and fame and money early on lets you skip a lot of stuff that you wasn't able to do. 100%. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, 100%. Being in a car with five of your friends and like your friends got the small car and everyone's fighting just to be like, where are you? I'm shotgun. I ain't sitting in the front. I ain't sitting in the middle. like you can never look cool with five man in a car no way one of the back in the middle in a free three door but now knowing that like you can be young enough and 20 enough and be like now let's go over in uber until i drive yeah i'm like well you got money like that bro the fact that we didn't have uber growing up like it used to be a sky cab thing now and again when you were really struggling yeah yeah night bus i remember i had a i had a vague memory i I don't know if I've made this up or not, but did night buses back in the day have a blue light?

35:14Because I remember some late night raving and coming back and there was a night bus. It might've been the N9 or N11 from like Tottenham Court road back to like Ealing. And he used to have a blue light. Am I, do you ever, do you know what it is? I don't think it was a blue light. I was just stoned. But no, what I think it was, I think it was so late that like, you know, like that blue haze in the morning. Yeah. I just also feel like If you got on a bus Maybe at like 10 o 'clock Because you had all the other streetlights That might have made the bus feel brighter But I think a night bus You're in the middle Because you remember It would go on other routes People forget that The night bus goes on The night bus is long And you can die on that night bus Yeah Like you're risking your life When you go on a night bus Back in the day Maybe not now But back in the day Yeah yeah You'd be on that night bus Like I'm sitting right in front with the driver, you know?

36:07Upstairs at the back? Are you barbaric? Nah, nah, nah. Where did the idea of Chabadiji come into it? Like, was that just like a character that you just knew? It was like a family member? Yeah. Because it's such an iconic character. Like, I think in British comedy. And you do it so effortlessly, like to the point where, I guess you must have people that just come up to you. And I think you've said it to me before, where they'll just say a phrase and you're like, bro, What's going on man? I remember that was on your show Yeah That was a mad show Do you remember that? It was me, you, Tyson Fury Yeah yeah yeah Steve Coogan And I didn't know you was such a big boxing fan Jesse J Yeah Do you remember that was a mad show?

36:47I didn't know you was a big boxing fan as well Yeah yeah yeah I love boxing Yeah man That's why seeing Tyson Fury that day was mad I remember I said something like I think Tyson would bang AJ Do you remember? Yeah And then Tyson was like That's him my boy I weirdly still think that Even though now You probably think AJ would do Tyson I still think Tyson's got his number. I hope they fight one day. It would be amazing. Nah, I mean, look, Chibati G was, I would say he was a mix. He's probably like 60, 70 % my dad, right? Because my dad is like the old school Hounslow hustler, right? Like the most, like loveliest man you will meet.

37:24Charismatic, so funny, unintentionally. You know what I mean? And just an eternal optimist. My dad's always coming up with new businesses. my dad you know did have uh an internet cafe growing up yeah he had used to work in a port cabin but it's also a mixture of so many like hounslow boys i grew up with and hounslow uncles it's that kind of like it's that street hustler who's the eternal optimist but kind of like got that level of delusion as well about him but basically i always see it as like everyone knows it's your buddy right and he's not even though him being a pakistani british immigrant you know it's funny the accent is funny we know that but it's not really what makes him funny it's like it's that delusion it's you know the dale boy kind of character thing that he's got and i think like chibati could be any race really it's not really about that you could have an african chibati a chinese chibati like it doesn't really matter and i think that's why it's kind of stood the test of time because he's this really lovable guy i never quite understood why he was so lovable because he's a dodgy guy yeah he will scam your nan yeah you know i mean everyone's I'm like, oh, Chabadi, I love Chabadi.

38:28But I guess it's because I've taken all the best bits from my dad and then mixed some dodgy stuff from my friends. And then you come up with this kind of... Because also, my dad doesn't really speak like Chabadi. My dad's a bit more of a conventional Pakistani. He's kind of like, oh, hello, man. He's a bit more like an upper, you know, this way. And he says some amazing stuff as well. But like he used to say, he gets phrases wrong. You know what it's like with immigrant parents, right? And he would always say like, instead of, you know, instead of the eat your heart out, he used to be like check this card out man eat your ass out and for years he would say eat your ass out and i used to be like dad what are you saying yeah and i had to correct him and he's he's been probably saying that for 30 40 years you know so um chabadi's a bit more of a mix of the accent is specifically as well as very hounslow accent because it's like in hounslow obviously it's very it's a very asian area but we've had everyone we have jamaicans we have geezers so actually chabadi's accent is a little bit like he throws in a bit of geezer he throws throws on a bit of road man he throws on a little bit of jamaica and then he's got still got the asian slang so in one sentence he could say three things he could be like oh bomba club you bloody dickhead uh panchord you know i mean he's all right geezer and it's like you've said geezer bomba club wagwan like but that's how people chat there they take little bits and bobs because we're all working class yeah so you grow up with the gears from each other yeah of course it is so it's like yeah and that's what i remember i said that on your show i was like it's such a regionally specific accent like you know you know if someone says do an indian accent of course you can do a very like a poo you know you can do that accent but let's be real there's many many different types of indian pakistani accents from all over the place yeah like i was speaking to you about bradford early i mean that's a whole other accent the pakistani bradford you're like what the fuck where did that come from so there's so many nuances and i think in comedy and especially character comedy for me details is everything you know so it's like how does a character speak how do they talk it's all about it's about a level of respect you give to the character and that's why when i said that on your show i was like when someone comes up to me and does like a kind of just a racist accent i'm not gonna i'm not gonna call them out i'm not gonna be like oh my god like i'll let it slide whatever but i do get some people come up to me who could do some fucking sick chibody accents yeah and that shows a level of care level of research and that's how every you know every accent yeah yeah you listen you learn and that shows care you know you're not just doing it on a basic level you know yeah and i guess you're you're not making the is that you're laughing with yeah the accent there's an appreciation you can never be mad at an accent done well i don't care what ethnicity is that's why you know like everyone could do a bad italian accent and it's fine yeah you know i mean but when you do a bad indian accent it's oh my god yeah it shouldn't be they should both be like kind of not offensive i don't want to because i don't want to be like this you know woke everything's triggering me because we're not from that generation yeah yeah you know i mean but at the same time you have to be real it just shows they don't really give a shit and they see you as a bit of a caricature let's be real about it yeah man you know yeah yeah of course yeah and i think look it's the same in it that sometimes i'll say i think i left a comment on something today and i said ah something something mandem someone someone did a comment it was like come on mate grow up using words like mandem i'm like bro i actually use this word actually what do you have to say now they them they them them but you know it's like people getting at me I'm like cool I can't even be offended at this or get angry I'm like no no I actually use this word it's not a it's not even a word for me we're just like well you said me and Amanda my guy in shops it's like but then I think for you it's it's a new thing for you because I know for that person and their friend it's like oh yeah me and fucking mandem mate fucking alright I'm fucking douche ain't fucking mandem you're fucking right cause I'm like yes it's like it's not I can't even get upset about it but you know what I mean I think our generation is like I always think we're like kind of not the forgotten generation I wouldn't say that yeah but I think like 80s born in 80s 90s babies right that generation I'm talking about we're like a little bit we're a little bit of a guinea pig generation because we know what the world was like before the internet we know it that was our childhood right and we lived real life but we also literally grew up with the internet, like the birth of the internet, dial up and all that.

42:42So we know all those MSN and MySpace and then we grew with it. So we're not dinosaurs. We know social media probably better than most of these youths, really. Because we saw the beginning of it, you know? Yeah, but also we've seen like how the Facebook page changed. Of course. Yeah. You know, like where they would introduce something and then you're like, bro, I remember when it looked like this. Yeah. And now it looks like this to the point where people would be like, no, why have you changed the layout? like where people didn't even know that was a thing like where they just used to try a new stuff like i remember when facebook introduced the like button and people was like you can like something from the poke button hey come on come on cuz you get a poke from a thing well she pokes you yeah but she's on you cuz she's on well poke her back poke her back now you would get cancelled for a poke yeah hey sorry did you concern me before that poke but you know but but here's the thing though so yes we're that generation right so i think we're very well versed but we're also like we kind of get the flack for both generations too as well because the the older generation before us they'll go oh they you you don't know shit about the real world and you're all on the internet and then the younger generation would be like oh look at uncle uncle thinks he knows that so we're like hold on a minute fuck you both yeah because we know both right and we have to live with both of your shits right but it's also woke culture right like i'm a liberal man right okay and and i don't get offended by much i'll be honest with you i don't like i like i love my comedy i've always liked you know dave chappelle and east bound and down and the office yeah comedy that you know would risk and they might say some stuff and you'd be like oh but never for me but i think we're also that generation where like we don't like the pc stuff but we also don't think that you can just say anything and be a fucking racist prick yeah like it's all about intention and i remember growing up with my white mates my black mate some of the shit we used to say to each other in a friendly way yeah like it was mental if you think about it you know i mean but for me i was never offended they were never offended and we were friends yeah like and but you wouldn't have that now so i think we're also from that generation where like the generation above us think nothing's offensive and i should be able to say whatever i want do any accent say any racial slur and then the generation below us like oh my god you know like how dare you so we're a little bit i don't i don't want to say invisible because i think we're a very important generation our generation where they kind of link between the old and the new right yeah but we do you we we are a little bit of the guinea pig generation so it's like where do we where do we fit in really yeah you know i mean do you know what i like weirdly like when i speak to any of the elders like any of the older uncles yeah aunties i'm so intrigued because it feels like they got to do all the stuff that's like i was like right what was it like going out in the 80s or like really like because now i'm an adult it's less of like oh what was it like hearing thriller for the first time and now i'm like so were you not all doing cocaine like was that was that really going on like were you not all doing crack because when i watched the films everyone was doing that but also knowing that like you know when I look at that generation and you're like, right, you man really could go somewhere if you had money then anyway, like you lot could really just go to the bank and technically just buy a house.

45:55Yeah. And I sit there and I'm like, right, do you know how mad that is? And some of you lot didn't do this. But see, that's the other mad thing as well. Even the financial guinea pig shit is on us because we, like I, like you said, the older lot could have, I mean, I remember my dad bought his first, my house, my first house was something like 40 grand. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then the property boom happened and they made bare money off it, you know? Hey guys, it's Drew from the comment section. Some days my skin just needs a little coverage and other days I want to go full glam. For those everyday moments like running errands or grabbing coffee, I've been loving the Merit Minimalist Stick because it's a foundation and concealer in one that gives me a really natural skin-like finish.

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47:42this younger generation obviously a bit fucked as well yeah yeah but we're from that generation as well like we're again the guinea pig one let's trial it out with these guys you know you know that none of them are gonna be able to afford their own home and let's raise the mortgage on us because we're at that age where you want to be buying yeah yeah and that younger generation are just looking at us being like i mean i feel sorry for them as well in terms of like buying and stuff because they're kind of fucked as well but it does feel like we're that generation and i don't know i'm not trying to be like oh poor because i love being this this era yeah like i think and i know everyone says this about the generation but like i love i love being a kid in the 90s and i love being a teenager in the noise like noise is underrated you know like being a teenager is underrated like the birth of like garage and grime and like you know early hip-hop stuff and i mean the 2000s hip-hop era was unbelievable as well like i know 90s was a bit more raw and like that but 2000 when they started getting a bit blingy and you know i mean like experimental it's weird it's weird you say that because i was listening to um ludicrous's album word of mouth the other day in the car and i was like bro lud is underrated yeah but you know like you know when you listen to it because really the way i started listening to the album again he'd done a he was on an interview on one podcast and i was like right let me listen to this and i was like because that was that was the first album album that i bought with my own money right because everything else i'd even borrow from my sister but i actually bought out my own money when i was in probably year seven or year eight hmv ting yeah yeah but you know like when you listen to certain music and you're like what are that i really forgot about skits do you remember skits like skits reading the album cover as well remember going there and having a look the lyrics used to be on there sometimes yeah man yeah that we were the last generation of the physical media you know like i mean even like blockbusters right i remember like we me and my boy every friday we used to link up and we used to just get a stone play playstation remember we used to go blockbuster and we used to do this thing where we would just blind pick a foreign movie we're going to foreign section it was a tiny little section and we just blind picked this film and it was just this we just saw the picture and it was a boy pointing a gun city of god bro went home randomly just watched City of God imagine that as a 15 year old boy watching City of God stoned out your mind not knowing about anything I think this is the greatest thing I've ever seen that would never happen now because now it's like someone tells you of a film you gotta watch the film and you watch it whereas I know what you mean like you might just like you just get the film and you're like just give it a go and then you meet someone who's seen the film he's like hey I've seen it too and I had that recently with someone where we were talking about films and I was like has any of you not seen the film called Kids?

50:26and someone else was like I've seen kids. But like, you know, like, that's if you're into films. Yeah. But that's a real classic, like VHS one from back in the day where you'd watch at a house party and you'd be like, this could happen. It was a great film. Yeah, man. Very underrated. Speaking of films though, you guys done a film. You went to Japan. Yeah. What even was that like? Because I have been to Japan, right? It's my favourite place ever. And the reason, and it's weird because now I know Japan is like a trending place. Everyone said, you've got to go there and stuff. And I feel like it always has, but I think now you see it more on social media of people going to Japan.

51:04But what was it like filming a film in Japan? You know what, bruv? Like, it sounds great and it was great, but the reality of it is that, listen, People Just Do Nothing was a low budget BBC sitcom, BBC Three sitcom, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it never made any of us millionaires, right? We did it, it was a pure labour of love, best thing I've ever made, best thing I'll ever do, you know made with my boys and it was made with focus films bbc films are focus films and actually it's uh on record as focus films lowest budget film really bro it was like we we made it on a shoestring and our director jack who i saw today actually he's a great director you know the way he made that look amazing but it was intense bro six day weeks like and you know a lot of guerrilla style filming you know didn't get too much permission for a lot of the stuff that's what I was thinking in Japan, you can't film out there.

51:55But it was incredible. They allow you if you just do guerrilla style. Oh, okay. Because the permits are long. But on the streets, we were just filming, basically, just trying. And it's so busy. I mean, you know what I mean? But it was unbelievable. I mean, it's like, like I said, I'll go back from that, doing those prank calls, calling up brothels, to being in Japan after five series BAFTAs. And now you're filming a film in Japan with your boys. It's like, it's mental, but it's still like, it's still niche for me. Like, it's still not like that film. But we made that film right before COVID, right?

52:31Then we got back from Japan, COVID hit. The movie was done, but we couldn't release it because the cinemas were shut. So that movie was sitting in the can for like nearly two years. And then when it came out slowly, like, you know, we made our money back. It got good reviews. But like, with people just nothing, it's never been a thing of like in-betweeners. It's always been like That cult classic You know what I mean Like if you If you fuck with people Just nothing You really fuck with it You know what I mean And I kind of like that I always like that kind of Niche cult status we have Because I think it feels special You know when something Gets too blown up Like you know an artist When you find an artist And you're like Oh this guy's sick And then he blows up And you're like It doesn't feel like special And I think we've somehow Always managed to keep that That kind of niche level Which I think It feels nice You know How do you find it as well when you, you know, you've kind of separated yourself as well and you do your own stuff, like, especially with acting as well.

53:25Like you're really in your acting bag and showing, you know, your range as well. Because, you know, I say to anyone who does like a character, what you don't realise is what goes into the character. And you can be so, what's the word? Like the attention to detail, like you're saying, like, even for like, let's say for like Chapadji, where you're like, has to be these type of trousers, has to be these shoes. This is how, I don't know how you are In terms of whether you got Like full method or whatever But You know when you have an idea And you're like I need this specific thing Yeah Otherwise It's not gonna work For the character How has it been transitioning now When you're acting And you're working Alongside other actors And it's A scene Like you know Sandman or whatever Do you know what I mean How do you find it now You know what It's um I'm definitely not method actor Like I'm not one of them guys Who's like Needs to be in character You're a bad boy actor though bro Thank you bro You know, I think cold, man, you know, I think it's like, I think as as performers, because really, you know, we could say we're comedians, we're creatives, we're writers.

54:28But deep down, you know, what I think what we are is when I was a little boy, I remember I used to put on performances for my family and they'd be like, it's gone then. And I'll be doing, you know, Michael Jackson. And they'll be like, fucking what is wrong with this kid? but and i'll do it for the whole family like i know because i was ignored for most of my childhood so i would do anything for attention you know my sister was like the kind of golden girl so they were like what's this little fat shit what does he want all right go on do your fucking song and they'll be like so i think back and i go like i've always been a performer you know you know you know i mean you know that little annoying fat kid that was me right so they're like yeah god go on then so like thinking back about it like we're still those performers now so like acting comedy music whatever whatever art form it is you're basically performing right it's a performance so that's the same thing with if i'm on set on like whatever it is marvel or sandman or you know people just nothing whatever the set is i'm performing and I want to make people happy or I want to make my boy laugh.

55:37I want to make him crack up. I want him to ruin the scene or I want to get a reaction from this person. And of course, if you look at it deep rooted, it's, it's, it's an, you want to be validated. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's an insecurity there for all comedians or performers. Like we want to be loved. And I think the fact that I was ignored quite a lot when I was a kid, you know what I mean? Cause I was that annoying little fat kid and I, you know, I was messing around a lot and I was, you know, but actually that, that kind of made, and I was left alone for a long time, you know? So like, even when i was like i was saying when i was doing people just nothing on my camera and doing music videos and all that my mom would be like you're a waste man like what are you doing like get a job like you know because she wanted some red money now because i'm not a little you now i'm 22 23 i was like you little bum get up get a job and i get that from her but all of the stuff i used to do whether it was music or people's nothing or comedy or whatever it was it was seen as annoyance it was seen as you're messing around yeah and i could see that because i was some pothead who wasn't doing anything you know not making enough money not contributing but that that element of like performing and wanted to have and then you know when when when we did make it i remember the premiere for people just nothing big in japan i remember it was a quite a beautiful moment for me it was one of my one of the best days of my life actually because my mom and dad had divorced right so like you know for years and years and they've remarried and different kids and all that and you know like a lot of families my family's quite broken you know you have you have issues and, you know, people stop talking and all that.

56:58But I remember for that moment, and like, you know, some of my cousins don't speak to some of their cousins and my dad doesn't speak to this person. Quite fractured, right? Like every family has problems. But I remember on that day in the premiere, we had a big premiere in Leicester Square, Cineworld, and it was just for friends and family. It wasn't like, because it was COVID time, right? Yeah, yeah. And I remember everyone was there. My mom, my dad, my uncle, my cousins, people who haven't spoken for years, my mom, you know, and everyone was there. And it was one of the proudest moments. I remember I was there with my agent, right?

57:24And she was there with my mom and my dad, which felt so weird because i was like these are don't even these are hate each other they don't fucking chat right and then my mom and i and then debbie with my agent was going so what was he like was he doing this kind of stuff when he was a kid and then my mom was like yeah she was like we always knew i was like you always knew i was like you're not calling me a little fat shit go to your room you know they didn't though that's what i'm saying but of course parents always try and claim it but weirdly enough that being left alone spurred me on to just be my own creative self and go and do stuff and not have the pressure of being successful because they thought i was a waste man you know so then when i did media studies they thought that was waste too they were like media studies yeah back then as well you think that's a dos and yeah yeah yeah yeah but actually not until later on until like you know even when the pilot go the only time my dad really thought i made it was when i got that special nando's card then yeah yeah then it was like he was like my son let's go to nando's and he would fucking rinse it but once we were in hounslow and i remember that we don't have it anymore we had it for like a long time and you know they can't keep giving it you know i mean but we don't have it anymore and we can't confirm no ordinary because it exists i've got the wingstop one though never use it um but i remember my dad we're in the hounslow nando's and my dad rinsed it so bad like three bill right and i remember i got an email from And then the next day being like, hey, Asim, we love that you're using the card.

58:49And just like being like, but we would like to remind you of the limits and all that. And I was like, oh my God. But that's when my dad was like, my son has met. And my dad's, my parents are very proud. Don't get me wrong. Like they're very proud, but it didn't come. They didn't know from back in the day. They like to pretend they did. But like going back to that performing thing, that's what I think I've always had. And I think that's what I meet a lot of performers, comedians, actors, writers. We want to perform. and this we want to make people happy and we want to express ourselves i think it's like you know like when you don't always have that attention you have a lot of stuff inside you where you're like i want to express this and show you this idea i've got and this or this performance i want to do you want to make people happy i think that's what it comes down to yeah yeah yeah and now you're in a beautiful place like where you are you know your dad as well yeah how do you start to like look at your career and what you want to pan out you know is it change the way that you think of the stuff you want to create, the time you put into work and then I guess like just not working as well.

59:48That starts to, it's that you're saying when you start thinking of your health and everything. I was in the same place where I was just like, oh, right. I now have to work out for survival rather than just for vibes and image. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I want to be able to just - But you did a fried chicken documentary. I know. You ate fried chicken for a month. Yeah, man. I can't wait to see that. Because my son, he's like two and a half and he's in the park, he's running and I'm like, I've got to keep up with him, innit? Do you know what I mean? To make sure he's like, okay, cool, goes on the slide.

1:00:18I want to be able to pick him up. Do you know what I mean? I do this thing where I get him and I pick him up and I throw him up and he's like, ah! And I'm like, I love the fact that I can do it because I'm fit and healthy and I need to let that continue. Do you know what I mean? And keep up with my kids and stuff. But where's that for you? Well, I think, and you'll relate to this. I think there's two lives, right? there was the life you had before the baby came and literally overnight when you see this little this little miracle and you're holding him and you're going wow like you used to live on my nuts man that's mad because he looks just like me as well and i'm like this is mental bruv like and i'm looking and i'm like this his whole life is dependent on me being a good person now and me being around and me being healthy looking after myself looking after him looking after his mom looking after you know everything everything that i struggled with or my parents struggled with having a steady home financial security you know i mean all that stuff something i never had yeah i want to give this to him so now like my son's only he's nearly three months so i'm very early i'm talking like i'm some fucking experienced dad you know i mean like you'll know more than me but like life just changed overnight bro and it motivated me to a mad point for the first month and a half I was at home I sacked everything off I even I remember I was doing a show with Danny Dyer actually and I was going to go on to do another this other reality show and I remember he was and it was very close to my wife's pregnancy date and Danny Dyer was like fuck that show off mate he was like be there for your kid that's more important you'll make that money I fucking love Danny but yeah yeah because he was because he had a kid when he was 18 and he's like you've done it fucking right mate he goes I had my baby when I was 18 he's like fucked it he's like now you've done it though you've lived your life Been with your missus 10 years You know Now you're having your baby You've done it the right way And it was actually just amazing Because like He's a G Danny Dyer is All the stories you hear about him Everyone says he's a legend He's a fucking Lovely man I've got a lot of time for that Very funny guy They tried to pitch me up on TV With him one time Oh what It was my first on TV And then they were like Oh Mo Are you a big fan of Danny Dyer I was like yeah man I'm watching things at Football Factory and that And he's like Oh what about this tweet then I think it was on tweet From like years ago And I was like Danny Dyer is a terrible actor.

1:02:38No. Right next to him. And I'm like, rah, like, why did you do this? On who's show? Donovan Ross show as well, innit? I said, ah, Ross, man, why did you do this, man? I think it was only my, my, it was my first time on the show, maybe my second time, I'm not sure. I had a nice little grey suit as well. You know, you feel a bit like, why did they stitch you up like that? Yeah, I said, come on, Ross, man. But then I, luckily, the way I was, I brought it back, I was like, nah,

1:03:06And he's like, don't you fucking die. I'm going to do my nothing, mate. And he laughed. And it just kind of, he was like, yeah, you know what, bro? Like, fair enough, innit? But also, I love his second, his resurgence. Like, he did his standards and he didn't have a good time on that. And he would probably admit that his performances weren't what he wanted to be. He's come back, man's come back, won a BAFTA. I mean, he's a national, he's a real treasure, man. Nah, I seen him. That was a bit cheeky. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He stitched you up there. I got a lot of time for Ross, man. But at the same time, you know, when you quickly learn about this industry, they know what they're doing.

1:03:41I was like, oh, right. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'm so glad I'm able to be quick in that moment. Of course. And because he took it well. Yeah. And I think if it was like a proper, like seasoned actor. Yeah. Would have been the most awful interview ever. But Danny, yeah, he took it on the chin. And it's funny, I seen him at the NME Awards, gave it an award. I said, oh, what are you saying, Dan, man, you're right. Because he was hosting it. said to see her he's like yeah mate yeah not too bad so this is a good gig isn't it hosting this he's like listen mo i'm not doing it for the fucking love bruv i was like all right fair enough man he's a legend but he gave me some great advice about just father fatherhood and obviously it was a really pivotal moment because i was worried obviously you're like when's baby coming and i was on this big show and it was stressful and he he and omid jaleel i remember was on that show they were giving me some great advice and it's like you know even though they're only like what 10 15 years older than us but i see them as our ogs as well yeah yeah and that's the other thing about our generation is we really listen to our elders i'm not saying he's our elders i'm not trying to age him but they've done the time they've done the time brother on the man like omid jaleed he's been around for back in the day when i did that was a little mummy in it he's a legend i love him man he's my brother and then it's like even when i'm working with sanjee baskar he's playing my brother in sandman i'm thinking bro i used to vhs record goodness gracious me every week and now i'm working with this man so when i'm with these man i'm i'm i'm trying to learn yeah i'm picking their brain i'm asking the questions you know i mean because we are that like i said i go back to that generation we are that generation that's a little bit in the middle so like but we always show respect to our elders you know it's like even if you think of hip-hop like our emcees they all paid homage to the emcees that came before them yeah you know i mean it was never now with these new eyes they don't give a fuck about the history you know i mean they don't they're like on their new shit they're like oh that's some fucking boom bap uncle shit be like no but listen do your research because if it wasn't for these man you lot wouldn't be here yeah you know yeah yeah so um but yeah going back to going back to my son it's um yeah bro life just changed man in the best way the first few months obviously you're in the trenches no sleep but man everything i do now is for him i just look at him and i think everything is for you so yeah love it bro love it man it's a great blessing man i really appreciate you coming on oh thank you bro it's been such a pleasure man and i feel like this is like One is like well overdue Because every time I've kind of seen you It's always been like briefly But it's all You know what I mean Like a show Quick passing What's going on Red Tech Even on your show Even if it was on nasty shows It would be always some mad It's always some mad I can't remember I remember I told one of the worst jokes on I can't remember It might have been nasty show You on a show I can't remember one Because we did it I did it a few times But I remember I did a joke to Pamela Anderson That's your buddy Yeah nasty Yeah I think that was on nasty show They're nasties And I said to her I went And bam, I went, oh my God, you're so fit.

1:06:22I love you. I was like, actually, funny story, actually. I was watching you. I was going to have a rank. And I was watching Baywatch and that. And I was ranking, ranking. Last screen, David Hasselhoff came on the screen. So I actually climaxed to the Hoth. And she went, okay. And I was like, oh, that felt sick. And she didn't know I was in character. And she's like, why is this man talking about me? And it felt horrible. And the joke did not land at all. Do you remember? It was horrible. And I was like, oh, man. But I love how chaotic The Nasty show was Your show was much more like You know You found your rhythm And your true pro But there was something chaotic About The Nasty show I kind of loved as well Bro it was chaotic man It was a totally different show to mine But like You know what's really funny About that episode Is that Pam Like Bless her She didn't have a clue What the show was about But saying that A lot of other people didn't Right Because really and truly Like You either know Nasty's world Like if you come and you're like Well I know Nasty I know Mo I know the vibes of where this is going to go or you don't or you just have no idea and some of the people who had no idea would jump on board very quickly so like Lou Farouk one of the best guests he started eating CBD gummies and stuff jumped on board but it's Louie isn't it he can adapt to anything but then it's like I remember we had David Schwimmer on for example and gigs do you know what I mean and it's like two combos of two completely different people and like he ended up in the end that's what I'm saying yeah that's what he said they used to watch you in jail still this is like that's what I used to love about the show but like everyone would come on bring whatever they've got going on and stuff so I knew I had to separate my show completely to what he's was yeah yeah and plus I had a different vision for my you did yeah do you know what I mean I like wearing a suit like the band there and whatnot and stuff yeah yeah it was fun man yeah but and thank you bro you remember you done the first ever show you know I know bro did you know that bro yeah yeah yeah of course first ever show I'll never forget that man that was the Tyson Fury one isn't it no yeah so me you Tyson Fury Steve Coogan and Jesse J yeah I remember first one I'm so fucking nervous no bro congrats thank you so much and like the documentary bro oh thank you bro I'm looking forward to that yeah no thank you bro I'm really as a fried chicken connoisseur I'll show you the trailer now for it still yeah yeah yeah yeah man but love for coming on my friend this has been your beginning middle and end thank you so much thank you bro thank you bro God bless you man hey what's up thank you so much for listening to the podcast today now a lot goes in to making each episode I know you hear my voice, but there's a team behind the scenes who helped make it.

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