2026 Emmys Recap: Great Wins, Bad Production, and a Widow's Bay Triumph

0:00I have talked to you more than any other human being in the last... It's going to take a long time for my family to catch back up. Hi, everyone. I'm Katey Rich. This is the Prestige Junkie Podcast. And right here next to me, you can see Christopher Rosen. We're here in our Toronto Airbnb. We're at the Toronto International Film Festival, but we also just watched the Emmy Awards. We live streamed through all of them on YouTube. If you joined us for that, God bless you. If you didn't, we're going to recap everything that happened of note at the Emmys and, you know, maybe tease some of the stuff we've been working on at Toronto.

0:33Chris, I'm excited to talk. I can't wait. I haven't talked to you in so long. I know. So much still to talk about somehow. Welcome to the show.

0:44Chris, the Emmy Awards are over. We've had friends joining us here in our apartment. We're recording moments after the Emmys are over. This is not our usual setup for recording. we're trying not to sound quite as insane as we did toward the end of the Emmys where Natalie McConaughey and Woody Harrelson showed up on stage and we said, please leave. You have to be done. We're not going to vamp like they did. We're going to keep this efficient and tight. Okay, good. I have nothing else to say then. Let's get into it. This is fine. I'm ready. We spent our live stream, which again, you can rewatch on YouTube if you want to watch a real journey into madness, I would say.

1:14We kept track on this pizza box. And honestly, it's an interesting way to look at what dominated the night because it is so clear that Widows Bay had an incredible night. They won six Emmys. The only thing that they didn't win that they were eligible for tonight was for Dale Dickey because she was nominated against Katie Flynn. Hugely dominant night for Widows Bay. Unbelievable. Set the record for most Emmy wins for a comedy series. A record set by. The studio last year. Yeah, so Apple, home of comedy, which I'm not sure that we would have credited them for even after the studio, which is such a funny show, but it was so glossy in this way that Apple has always been.

1:49And Widow's Bay is such an interesting outlier in so many ways. And now it's such a huge feather in their cap. It's kind of interesting if Apple will kind of start thinking about themselves differently as a result of this. It is pretty wild because obviously they also had Ted Lasso, right? So it's like three different flavors of shows. Because Ted Lasso is like this kind of Bill Lawrence hang show. And then the studio is a very satirical Hollywood thing. And Widow's Bay is obviously its own kind of genre almost, right? So it's like it is incredible that they won with these three shows and to be so dominant.

2:17but one i mean we expected kato flynn to win i thought like coming into the show and that was the first award of the night yep but once steven root won supporting actor which was the category that i think you were like he should win maybe yeah absolutely because it felt like it could have been a toss-up like i mean because the way that this night went and again we've been keeping track of this on this box it was like one for task one for dtfst louis which of course won a bunch of creative arts one for slow horses there was a spreading the wealth kind of thing so if it was going to be that way in the comedy category it would have happened there for steven roots category right and then it didn't and it was like oh okay so then widow's face is gonna just steam roll and it felt like you kind of knew that once he won yeah and then obviously katie dipold won writing and your mariah won directing and then it was just like okay like this is the end and it won the most of any show at the creative arts yes wimmies did i say wimmies it's so late and we've been we've been talking all day um it was yeah it came into the night already a dominant force and really discontinued it and uh how do we feel for hacks we love hacks i love we've been excited for Hacks.

3:14We've been rooting for Hacks. We really did talk about it as a real race until it kind of wasn't. I want to say this is going to be cold comfort for probably the people behind Hacks who we love and it's like the best show but there was a chance as unfortunate as it was only going to win one Emmy for Gene Smart and it did only win one on the primetime show but it also won one creative art Emmy for editing. It did. At least it won two Emmys. And it had never won for editing before I don't think. Right. So it had never won. That was the category where beat Widows Bay head ahead but widows they had three individual nominees yeah versus two for hacks so you could argue it was a vote split there yeah um so yeah disappointing certainly but to i mean gene winning for the final season was obviously like kind of expected and should have happened and it's great but it's like we talked about this too hacks kind of did this to the bear when it's a bear i think we literally said that to a publicist who's working on the campaign for hacks was again over these past couple days in toronto we've been doing nothing but talking to a publicist including many of the Emmy Awards.

4:12A lot of people who were flying back to L.A. in time to get to the Emmys, which God bless it. It was interesting watching this in Canada, but I'm very glad we didn't have to fly home to do this or fly to L.A. for that matter. But no, it's the Emmys saying, oh, here's this cool, exciting new thing that we want to talk about, and this year it was Widow's Bay. Yeah, and we've seen that. They've been more, I think a lot of times, at least for when we were growing up at least, like watching Emmys, it felt like it's always the same winners over and over again. We did see that with the Pitt, obviously, and Noah Wiley, but like it does feel like the Emmy voters are more quick to embrace new stuff and then kind of move on from stuff than they had been previously because we've seen that now over and over again.

4:47So I'll be curious to see, you know, the future for Widow's Bay and stuff, but yeah, like, I mean, great hacks is the best. So it won a series Emmy. It won that one for season three. So at least like that's fine. It'll be interesting to see what the future is for Widow's Bay in that obviously impossible to predict there, you know, at writing season two right now, I think we were kind of realizing sitting here that because the studio was such a huge dominant force last year, Apple is never going to let Widows Bay in the studio air in the same season, which I don't like to hear because I want more Widows Bay as quickly as possible.

5:16And I think they're done production on the studio. They were, they've been filming it for a while. They've been filming it for a while because they remember they were in Venice last year, I think doing stuff. And I know they had to probably like to reconfigure certain things after. like a full year ago. I know. They probably had to reconfigure things because of Catherine Harris death maybe. But like, I'm sure it's going to be in next year's Emmys race. Yes. Yeah. That feels like a good bet. It will be probably the front runner, especially even with Ted Lasso back in the Baroness final season. Yeah.

5:40The, the way that the Emmy comedy race works is going to continue shifting. I think like hacks being gone, I mean, Abbott elementary will still be around only murders, I guess we'll continue to get nominated until the end of time. But it's going to, things are going to continue shifting. Meanwhile, the pit is coming right back. It'll be back next year. It kind of felt like this year was going to be its huge coronation as what feels like the most dominant cultural force in the drama category. and it was it won the drama award noah wiley won but it was a little more divided than that yeah it only won overall six awards right so one more than last year yes but it only won two on the prime time ceremony it didn't win katherine lalassa she lost supporting actress that was probably they all lost that was she's the one who won last year uh and that was probably the biggest shock of the night maybe allison janey winning we could talk about that i think so i mean allison janey's face alone tells you how big of a shock it was which was delightful i mean we were thrilled you can Go back and watch the live stream footage.

6:35We were delighted to see something that surprising happen. I mean, she's terrific on The Diplomat. She's Alison Janney. She's terrific on everything. And it was a record then for her, eight wins, I think, tying a record, right, with Julie Lee Dreyfuss and Cloris Leachman for Emmy wins. She has now tied that record. And I think, as I said on the live stream, like, Alison Janney's not going anywhere. She's got, I mean, Julie Lee Dreyfuss also couldn't easily come back and win another Emmy. So race is on. Bring it. But for the pit, I mean, like, the second season, I thought was really great. Obviously, the fan response we talked about, this on the live stream as well but the fan response was normal yeah totally normal this year nothing nothing questionable at the fan response um but yeah it felt like maybe the show would expand and maybe win another acting award like would patrick ball win but i just think there were too many i think it's a it's a champagne problem for the show but i think it's tougher to win these individual categories beyond noah wiley who is obviously like the star because it's like when they're stacking nominations it's like how do you pick a favor between Catherine Lanasa and Sepita Mojave?

7:32How do you pick a favor between Patrick Ball and Sean Haddesey? And then it's not even accounting for the other nominees in those categories. Yeah. And then even for writing and directing, it's a cumulative show. It's not like a standout show. I think people think of it because it's the in real time. That's exactly what it is. It's like, okay, like how do you pick a certain episode? It's really hard. It is. And like Noah Wiley was nominated for directing. We were talking about this on the live stream as well, but like directors vote for directing winners. Did that impact that race maybe a little bit?

7:59Because we know the directors, the DGA certainly wants directors winning awards and directing episodes, not necessarily as many actors doing that. Well, I know Wiley is, I guess, I don't know if he's been credited for writing episodes. I think maybe he has, but there's the interesting thing happening right now where there's a new rule that's saying directors can be credited with like pilot directed by credits on TV shows. So directors are trying to get more power and kind of the history of how a show goes on and the writers are not thrilled about that. So there's interesting power struggles happening in that that I think we'll continue to see effect in the Emmys like this.

8:30So but all that said, like the pit still has a show. It's like the pit. People love the pit. And they're going to vote for the show. It won the six awards. That's great. Two acting awards instead of three from last year. And it picked up a couple of creative arts Emmy wins. But yeah, I mean, like I'll be curious to see how the voters respond to it in season three. And I'll be also curious to see how they maybe reconfigure the camp. I wonder if this will like, will like they rethink of the campaigns for the performers, at least I know it's hard to like, it's really hard, it's really hard. It's hard unless the show says like this season, we're really going to see what Dr.

9:03Langdon and his journey, like you have to make someone more of a focus. I think I said, again, everything we've said in the live stream, we've been talking for three hours, but you, the way that you win when you're a double nominee against your cast mates in that category is you're kind of a actual lead. Like it's a little bit of a category fraud and no one on the pit really had that this season i do like i was thinking like as we're sitting here like does katherine lanasa you could have argued she would have been a lead actress this season certainly among the women in the cast i think she or sepita could have been a lead actress they all ran supporting but one who knows what the third season is but would one of them make a leap to leave you know what i mean like for season three and does that give them another opportunity to win an award maybe so i'll be curious to see how that is and i'll be curious I mean, the fan response is so out of its mind with The Pit.

9:48I wonder how that will impact season three. I hope it doesn't. But like, I'm just very curious what happens in the show going forward. I hope that they're not super responsive. I just pretty much always think it's a bad idea for a show to respond how its most intense fans are thinking of things. And I don't know. Noah Wiley doesn't seem like the guy who's willing to do that. He seems pretty confident. I mean, it's him and Scott Gemmel and John Wells and other people writing that show. But this is a victory for The Pit. I'm sure that the people at HBO were kind of hoping for really gaudy numbers like what Widows Bay got, but like maybe there's only room for one a year of like the big show that everyone is obsessed with and talking about.

10:23Definitely. You make me wonder if like for the next season of Widows Bay, if like Cato Flynn and Dale Dickey and Kay Callan is that the name, the woman? Like if just like more people get nominated, does Widows Bay face the same problem because it's got such an incredible ensemble? Or does Cato Flynn go lead for season two? Who knows? We don't even know what it's going to be. Does Cato Flynn win an Oscar in a few months? Maybe. So many possibilities are in front of us. So that's drama and comedy. Oh, we should talk about Pluribus, actually. Because Pluribus was having a really great night. Ray Seahorn winning drama actress.

10:52We were really, Carrie Russell was on this run because Matthew Rhys won for The Beast and Me and then Allison Janney won for The Diplomat like immediately after. And then right after that came the drama actress category. And we kind of thought that she was going to have this surge. She and Matthew Rhys have been such a great effect. Obviously, The Diplomat was possible. Allison Janney had just won. and then Ray Sehorne won instead, which was wonderful. Really great. It reminded me a little, I guess, last year, Britt Lowe won, right, for Severance, another Apple show. Yeah. And yeah, I thought Carrie Russell would win too because she won at the Actor Awards.

11:22Now, Ray wasn't against her this year at that ceremony because the pluribus came later. But it did feel like there was a lot of affection for Carrie Russell. But at the same time, obviously, Ray is such a never won for Better Call Saul, obviously. And that show never won anything. And then so to have her win, I thought, was really great. and she was so, it was really fun to see her win. She had a great speech. She was probably more emotional of the winners, I thought, of the night. And of course they tried to play her off, which in hindsight is even stupider because they had so much extra time.

11:48We're going to talk about the production of the show itself in a little bit. That'll definitely be later, yes. We'll get there. But yes, she won, and then Vince Gilligan won his first ever Emmy for writing. Yes. Crazy. Yes, that's right. I double checked this. No, you're right. He had won directing, I think. He won series for Breaking Bad. Other Breaking Bad writers won, but I think he's kind of famously generous with sharing credit. so that his other writers can get a chance. His name is obviously like on the TV Mount Rushmore. So it was nice. It was great. Yeah. I'd love seeing him get up there.

12:14Same. I mean, Pluribus is going to come back for a second season. Does Apple have another big draw? Severance, I guess. So it's like now Pluribus and Severance have to take turns. Yeah. And the studio and Widows Bay have to take turns. I mean, Apple's got a stranglehold, you know, and like not to say that HBO doesn't and Netflix, not their best year at the, at the primetime Emmys. They did win for Sally Field. They did. Which was wonderful. That was a great, I mean, what's fun about doing these live streams is you watch our brains kind of spin out in real time. And like, we're going into this being like, oh, I think it's Sarah Pigeon or like, maybe it could be, I don't think we thought it was Carrie Mulligan.

12:47Anyway, I can't remember who else we thought it was, but you're like, what if it's Sally Field? And then as soon as you said that, it made sense. And then you manifested it. It's so funny because they also won Matthew Rhys for Beast of Me. That was his second Emmy, right? Or first of the two. First of the two. So it's like Netflix and we going into the season, I think, and even probably after the nominations because beef had 16 nominations you're probably like oh carrie mulligan and oscar isaac will win their his and her emmys for beef and netflix kind of dominate that so they didn't win those and beef really kind of flopped with the primetime emmys and the creative arts unfortunately um but then netflix still won those two lead and as actress and actor awards for limited series which is funny um but sally field's win was great i thought that was like really good yeah um so it's hard to argue with sally field i mean i think same with ellis and janney and these categories where it's like there's not really a clear front runner.

13:35Like you kind of go back to like, who is someone who I've loved a long time, who I would like to work on my next project or something like that. There's something to that. I feel like we're going to take away for Emmy predictions or whatever for future. We have to always remember that they do love their veteran winners and their past people who've won. Although I'm pretty sure that's why I thought Kathy Bates was going to win for Matlock. And then I think Britt Lauer is the one who beat her for that. So you never know. But like, yes. Well, it's like we said, sometimes vote splitting is real and sometimes it's not.

14:02Do we know anything? No, we know everything. It's great. It's so much fun. I don't know if I feel like I know anything. DTF St. Louis only won one, but it had such a huge night. All the other awards were Creative Arts Emmys. So yeah, congrats to HBO for, I guess, did DTF Winston St. Louis win as many Emmys as the pit? Yes, more. It won seven Emmys. Wow. Versus six for the pit. I never would have predicted that. Because it won the two acting awards and writing, directing, and series, and then a couple other ones. So it's pretty wild that it won. I mean we could talk about if you want to we could talk about the production the show now that was obviously you interviewed the Emmy president right the Academy president yes about the creative arts Emmys and they hunted uh those lead those real significant supporting categories from the primetime show to the creative arts Emmy so David Harbour and Linda Cardellini won on the show that no one watched yep they got to come here and say which is now aired on FXX I I should like go back and watch it.

15:00I'm curious what that looks like. And the reason they did that was because they said well we have so many great bits planned and it's going to be so much fun and we want to make the best show possible and at 10.20. And maybe get the ratings to go up and at 10.20. At 10.20 with 40 minutes left they had two awards left and an in memoriam segment and so that's how we got Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson standing up there just talking. Lord. A lot of talking. Good Lord. Or even Scott Gemmell giving the speech for the pit and just going on. Just nothing. No pressure whatsoever. Don't even need to wrap them up.

15:32And Bersico Hargitay, I think, was a good host. She had good bits. The Taylor Swift bit obviously went on for way too long. I mean, there was other like crowd work things that I think we were yakking over so we didn't necessarily hear all of them. It's hard. She was really just on her own. Like a lot of these last couple years has been like Anthony Anderson reuniting cast, you know, like a lot of like big stunt stuff. And there wasn't that level of production there. I know she just did a one woman Broadway show. So maybe it's like the confidence of just putting your star out there. She's obviously very popular, but it didn't fill the time no obviously because there was so much much at the end of the night i mean i don't want to be too hard on this i don't know how to make live television but that feels like a failure of production it just seems like if you're gonna make the show of like being like we got to remove these multiple categories off the prime time show because we just don't have room for it yeah and we have no time for it and then to clearly i mean we don't know this maybe they would tell me oh actually this is exactly what we planned we planned to have seven minutes of Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey talking, and we plan to have Mariska Harganty just saying a lot of words before wrapping it up.

16:36A really long awkward pause at the end of the immemorial. And her kind of doing a mid-show wrap-up of who had won previously. Oh, yeah. Maybe they planned all of that, but I'm sure they, I'll take it in good faith. But assuming they didn't, to kick those categories off the broadcast and then to have not... To make a lot of people really mad. And then to not have enough to fill out the show. Like, this show should have gone longer. They should have made more bits to make sure it was overstuffed. to make the point. That's exactly what the Oscars always do. I'm just like, I don't understand how they ended up so short.

17:02I will look forward tomorrow. I'm sure there'll be like postmortems with the producers like there always are in the trades. And I will look greatly forward to reading those to see what happened. Maybe something fell out. Maybe they were going to do a bit that got canceled. Who knows? Yeah. But like, oh my gosh, to have that. It's so high stakes to kick those categories off the show and then have it run too short. It's really bizarre. Really a bad look. And it made the show like kind of bad because like I didn't like, I don't know about you, but I was like, i love we were saying like the thing i love about award shows winners and speeches love them can't beat that that's all we want and so like we we went into the show being like oh my god i can't believe you're the ms credit film festival but actually we love award shows it was so much fun and like and like powering all that stuff and putting it all in but really all the acting awards were done by like 9 30 so the first 90 minutes of the show yeah they did like all the major acting awards and that taylor swift bit and so then you get to like 9 30 maybe they think people are going to go to Monday Night Football.

17:55Who knows? But like you end up with like the writing and directing and the series and then they did a really moving in memoriam thing I thought was really nice and special. I mean, Macaulay Culkin and Annie Murphy and Dan Levy doing Catherine Harrow was beautiful. Jamie Lee Curtis, she knows how to give a speech at a workshop, man. She's good at this. They did a really great job with that. I thought that was great and they added the Dolly Parton thing too, so they had that also, which was like fun. I'm not sure why they weren't connected. Isn't that kind of weird? I agree that that should have been connected, but I wonder if it was, I don't know why.

18:22I mean, Dolly Parton obviously recently died so maybe that was part of it but i had to make room for that weird buick commercial that came in the middle of all of it at least in our canadian broadcast uh so that was great i love the memoriam i thought that was like really beautiful and moving and all that was really good but then to just like i don't know i don't know what they could have done at the end and you were saying too like the reunions i mean as goofy as that stuff is and like whatever at least the last few years i felt like they were like cooler and no disrespect to the cast of charlie's angels but I'm like who is that for though?

18:51Great question and people who stayed up late enough to watch the end of the Emmys this is the theory I threw out during the live stream is that maybe they front load everything knowing like alright no one's going to make it through to the end of this thing but if we can front load it get people to pay attention for this long and then let you go and let only the true diehards watch the end of it. I don't hate that as a theory but it did make us, it hit 10 o 'clock and we thought like what are we doing here and having Michael J. Fox tribute award oh yeah and the dolly parton tribute and the in memoriam really close together with basically nothing backing it up it was like all the most solemn stuff all crammed all together it's kind of like when you think about a wedding right you know like when you go to a wedding and you're like okay we got to do all the speeches and like they kind of always you have to like really kind of be conscious of how you're mapping out a wedding right like in terms of like okay we want people the cocktail hour is going to be this then we want to serve them food and then we want them dancing we want to get people on the dance floor and you don't want to once they're on the dance floor you don't want to bring them back for the speeches right fuck that it's over right it's so bad and like to not like this felt like this was a mistake like it was just like not yeah not programmed properly because you're right like all those the michael jay fox thing too i'm glad you brought that up that was really great and it was so moving and like it's great seeing him and it seemed like the audience really responded to him too but it was all like stacked with dolly barton and the immemorium and there's no awards and then they only have two awards left and like they came back from the immemorium there was literally like 27 minutes to do two awards yeah and they did it That were all kind of assumptions about what we, we like, we knew what was going to win in it and they, yeah, it was like the pit and when it was, they were definitely going to win.

20:24And so it was no drama and 27 minutes. So that was, that's an issue. You know, that the Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson thing, if it happened at the Oscars, people would be like trying to burn down the Academy museum. Like people get so over the top when the Oscars go to go long and self-congratulatory. Like they were like literally looked at each other. You're like Emmy winner, Woody Harrelson Oscar went like, slow motion. It was crazy. And it might just be because I'm very tired and have been talking for a long time that I was going to die. I thought I was going to die. I love that when Widows Bay won, Woody Harrelson just stood with them like he won an Emmy.

20:58And I wonder if he thinks he won an Emmy. He possibly could. I don't know. Do we feel like we won an Emmy? I definitely feel like. I know. This should be like if. I think it's Emmy eligible. We got it. We got it. Get in there. I think podcasts. Yeah. If, you know, podcasters are waiting. Somebody takes it eligible for Emmys. There's a whole podcast creators category. We need a Critics' Choice Award. Obviously. I mean, I vote for them. So I don't know if that's eligible. But I had a good time watching the Emmys. I had a great time. It was good. I'm happy for Widows Bay having the moment that it did.

21:27Even if this is the only time, you know, even if the Emmys continue their thing of moving on to the next thing, I think that's okay. It wasn't so long ago we were thinking, like, there should be a statute of limitations on Emmys. You should not be able to continue winning because Julia Louis-Dreyfus was just winning way too many of them and it doesn't really work that way anymore no and i'll be curious i mean i think this is going to be next year's emmys not that i can't believe we're gonna i would not start talking about them yet but i will say like i'm very curious to see like how what what other drama series show up like what new shows will show up obviously we've seen like the emmys are not afraid of embracing new shows and like i'm there's i think it's gonna be really good so it's like it was a fun emmy season and i think the best show is probably one yeah well limited series i I think you and I are both on beef.

22:10We'll be on Beef Island forever. That's okay. We'll move on in our own time. This is going to be a pretty short episode of the podcast, but we should promote the vast ocean of other content that's out there from us. And there's not an interview on this week's episode because there's 32 interviews from us on YouTube. Right now, it's been a really awesome couple of days. We'll talk more about TIFF on next week's podcast. We'll talk about the audience award winners. We've been doing daily dispatches from the festival. so you can watch us on YouTube there. But in terms of, for the podcast listeners, for those of you who are only listening to us or only watching this, what have we missed?

22:45Oh my God, so much. First of all, there's so many live videos of us doing this that you can watch on YouTube that I would suggest going to find. I have talked to you more than any other human being in the last, I mean, it's gonna take a long time for like my family to catch back up with the sheer hours of conversation. And then we're gonna continue making the podcast. So multiple live streams. And then so many interviews. We had everyone come through our TIFF studio, which was just wonderful this year. I think a level up from last year, I would argue. Unbelievable. From having Austin Hargrave there to take portraits at the very least.

23:15I mean, we did fine, but Austin, my God. And the whole team, Jen Lasky, put together here in Toronto to do this was fantastic. So many good videos. So many great interviews. You talked to... Yeah, what was your favorite? Do you feel like you have one? I don't know. I loved talking to Jesse Eisenberg. I thought that was really fun. I talked to him for the debut. That was the last one. The last one we did, and it was a real, real highlight. And we both got to talk to Los Javis, the directors of La Bola Negra, me on the video suite, and then you obviously for a great interview that will run in the future.

23:44Yeah, I had a live on stage conversation with Los Javis, the directors of La Bola Negra at the TIFF market. It was a really lovely audience. I ran into someone who had been there later in the evening, which was so nice. Yeah, she was excited. Yeah, the producer. It was so lovely to meet you. And they were just incredible. And La Bola Negra, as still as we're recording, hasn't played at TIFF yet. That's still coming. but that's going to be a big story of it. But you get to talk to the whole cast and those beautiful Spanish actors. A lot of handsome people coming through. Yeah. I talked Guy Pearce for Inc.

24:15we did. You had a good time with that one. You had so many. Amanda Seyfried, Scoot McNary, and Tim Blake Nelson for The Life and Death of Wilson's Shed. They were fun for a movie that's very sad, but also fascinating. You got to talk to Darlene Love. Oh my God, Darlene Love. That was great. What highlight. That movie, no distribution yet, but hopefully it will after it plays here. I'm sure it will. Absolutely. That was fantastic. It was just great. The videos are so great. They look great. You can watch them all. I thought the interviews were great. I mean, we're biased. I'm biased because I think you're great.

24:45But I'm like, I think you're great. Oh, thanks Katie. But it was really good. We're on an award show right now. We're like Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey. Which one? Who are you? How many Emmys do you have? I like to think I would have the sense not to stand behind the microphone when someone else is wanting an Emmy. So you would be Matthew. So I want to be Matthew. And I'll be Woody. I can see that. You don't have the sense, obviously. So yeah, there's so much you can catch from us on YouTube, on the Prestige Junkie After Party Substack. You can watch those lives that we did. And you can also rewatch our live conversation through the Emmys, which in the past, when we've done those, people, the numbers go up after the awards themselves, which I don't, I'm flattered.

25:22I don't understand. It's so long to watch it, but thank you to anyone who would watch it. And yeah, we'll have a full TIFF recap episode next week, along with my conversation with Liz Hovey, which will be the interview on that episode. And then we're just going to get back into awards season. And we're not done talking about TV for the year. The Critics' Choice, Globes, SAG, TV part of the season is still coming. There's more shows coming out. You're going to watch Furious, right? I got to catch up on Furious. I can't wait. No, I'm very excited for it. I got to tell Scoop McNary how much I love Furious.

25:52So yeah, there's so much more to come, but it's late and we should wrap this up. So thank you to everyone for listening along with us live for doing all of this. And because there's no interview, I'm going to wrap up the show and say this episode or this podcast is edited by Brett Fox and produced by Brett Fox and me. Our theme music is by Dave Gonzalez. Thank you to Christopher Rosen sitting right here next to me on the couch. And thank you to everyone who helped make this live stream happen and everyone at The Inkler who lets us get away with things like this. You can subscribe to the Prestige Junkie newsletter where there's been daily dispatches from TIFF at The Inkler.com.

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