The Who's Next Oscar Draft: Part 2

0:02Hi, everyone. I'm Katie Rich. This is the Prestige Junkie podcast. And this is a special bonus episode featuring the second half of our Who's Next Oscar draft with our friends Joe Reid and Chris Feil of This Had Oscar Buzz. Hopefully you heard the first half of the draft last week where we tackled categories like hot young Americans and people who have been nominated three plus times. Now is the second half. We have more categories, more names to get into. Chris Rosen is back. Joe and Chris File are back. We're really happy to get back to drafting. If you want to watch both parts of this draft, yes, the special graphics and video clips and all kinds of other stuff, go to the Inkler's YouTube page.

0:41You can watch the full thing in one place there. But if you're listening to us now, please come join us in this special bonus conclusion to our Who's Next Oscar draft.

0:53All right, we're back into drafting. It is time for round five. We all took a water break. and everyone's feeling ready to continue on our journey, feeling good about their roster. So I haven't really been able to look at like, who do I have? It's like, do I feel good about all these names? I feel great about these names. You have a pretty formidable roster. I'm looking at it right now. I think we all do. I think so. There's so many good choices to make, but now it's one that's going to start getting stressful where we start running out of room and saying, oh God, am I really not going to draft this person?

1:21So I'm going to pull out the A24 bucket full of Marty's Supreme ping pong balls And now on to category five, which is previous SAG or Globe winner. And I'm going to kick this off with a question for you, Joe, the game maker. Do ensemble SAG wins count? They do not. Okay. Has to be an individual win for a film. Okay. That makes sense to me. It is slightly more stressful in terms of who I can fit into this category. Because like I said, we're running out of room. But I don't have to do it first, Joe, you do. So you're going to kick us off on this one. Yes. So a couple people here that I had on this list that have been selected.

2:05So it sort of narrows my field a little bit.

2:11Gosh, there's quite a few. Okay. So I think I'm going to go with a two-time Golden Globe winner. because mathematically that makes my pick twice as good. It's somebody who I've already won money on and betting on their Oscar fortunes before. So I feel like, why don't I just double down? And I'm going to go with Colin Farrell. Who I think with that Banshees of In a Sharon campaign really reminded people that like, oh, we really like him. Like he's very fun. The like, you know, the former bad boy days have only sort of like increased our current feeling for him. I think of the of the Hollywood folks who overcame, you know, drinking slash drug problems in their in their youth, I find him so much more genuine and charming than Robert Downey Jr.

3:18but I guess that worked for Rabbit Darnie Jr. So like who's to say? I don't know. I think he's, his last Oscar contending movie and I'm going to say contending in big old scare quotes because Ballad of a Small Player? What was it called? Oh, I thought you were going to say Big Bold Beautiful Journey. It was a rough fall for our friend Colin. Well, yes, it was a tough 2025 for our friend Colin but I have a ton of faith in him, right? I haven't even, have not even looked at what's coming up. I tried not to get too bogged down in, like, what's immediately ahead for these people because. Yeah, this is a vibes draft.

3:56We're going off of what feels like it's coming. It's definitely a vibes draft. This is a good pick, Joe. I'm full on board with Colin Farrell. What does he have coming up next, though? Well, the Batman part two, I guess, is the only thing I'm seeing. They're going to make that movie. Actually, they keep saying they will, and then they'll actually make it someday. I guess. I mean, there does seem to be money to be made on that. And, like, I wasn't the biggest fan of that movie, but, like, it had its charms. Did you know he's currently on an Apple TV show where he plays a detective who's also an alien?

4:27I did know that. Yes. He was not just a detective, okay? He had an alien. He got renewed for a second season that's airing right now. He's supposed to be in that Fernando Morello's adaptation of art. Oh, boy. It's supposed to be him, Ralph Fiennes, and Wagner Mora. And I don't know when that is going to come to fruition, but that has been talked about. IMDb says he's filming a Luca Guadagnino movie called Sergeant Rock. Didn't that not happen? I think that fell apart. Okay, that feels great. Luca Guadagnino is really becoming one of those directors who you really cannot trust. He's like Guillermo del Toro.

5:09Like, everything is allegedly being made. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And then he'll make something and it's like, wait a second, where did that come from? Like, hold on. So, yes, there's also something that is allegedly in pre-production called Bad Bridget. That is an Irish set film that stars him and yet also Himesh Patel and yet also Donald Gleeson and Amelia Jones. I'm already on board. I'm on board. You name some names we like. Well, and this, he seems like a good longitudinal bet. He works all the time. He's very employable in a whole different range of things. I guess he's not in Wild Horse 9, even though he and Mark McDonough have this good collaboration.

5:53But a lot of directors, like, people want to work with him at this point in his career. Yes, I think so. And I think he's also just like, again, close your eyes, imagine him holding an Oscar aloft. You can do it. Like, it does not take a leap. So he has a Golden Globe for Imbrugge. And then what's his other one for? Didn't he win a Globe for Banshees or am I making that up? He did, right? I'm trusting you. He did because he was in comedy and Austin Butler and Brendan Fraser were in drama. And Austin Butler won the Globe for Elvis. Right. Yes. No, you can picture him holding an Oscar because you've seen him holding a Golden Globe already.

6:33We've seen him holding the two different Golden Globes, the old good-looking Golden Globe statue. And the aluminum can. And the new Bud Light tall boy-looking Golden Globe statue that looks cheap as hell. Yeah. That does seem important. It does. Okay. I think it is my turn next. I'm not remembering my order very well. And I don't want to just pick another hunk who has gone through various phases of his career and is now in a good spot. but I think I'm going to because I think I got to pick Ryan Gosling. He is in... I'm surprised he didn't go in contention this year because I think... Well, he's not going to win this year, Joe.

7:14The longer this year goes along, the more like... The better Project Hail Mary looks. ...is like one of the few movies that everybody has seen and likes. Wait, Joe, you can't just... But you literally just said Tom Cruise is going to win an Oscar. There's no doubt that he's going to win an Oscar. Listen, Ryan Gosling won an Oscar. This is a different podcast. We're on a whole different podcast feed right now. This is a different episode that we don't remember. I am not to be held to any of my standards. You are allowed to contain multitudes. Those multitudes can be Tom Cruise and Lincoln. How dare you?

7:48There's ties. You can have a tie. There's no saying this is not possible. We just had one last year. Ties are absolutely possible. I agree with you that the longer the year goes on, and Chris Rosen, you and I have talked about this, that Project Hail Mary gets stronger and stronger the longer it goes on. And even if he doesn't win Best Actor this year, I would love to see it happen. I think he's really terrific in it. It is such a showcase for him. It's a showcase for him as doing the like hard acting, like I'm front and center, like from Blue Valentine or when he was like breaking out as a young man and also leaning on charm of like Barbie and the nice guys.

8:19Like it is combining all of these things he does so well. He looks fantastic in that movie. It's not a small thing. And he carries it and there just aren't a lot of people who could. and like it's such a success for him. It sets him up in such a perfect place. And I mean, I wonder if he's now getting to the point of Brad Pitt where it's like if this is his money ball and like it succeeds, it gets him to the Oscars and says like, okay, he's figured it out. He knows exactly what he's doing. The clock is now ticking to finally make this happen. He doesn't have to win best actor to have this be a very, very good year for his prospects because like I think you make a very good point which is that sometimes just to have a leading man like shoulder a movie like that, like to be the person who like upon whose shoulders that movie rests really does like put you in an echelon that, you know, ups your respect factor quite a bit.

9:12Yeah. Yeah. It really like the Brad Pitt and Moneyball thing where it was like, he's like, he's able to lean in to what he's able to do so well and makes the movie work as a result of it. Yep. Yep. I mean, I, I think he could win. I said Andrew Scott was going to win. We all have a lot of ideas here. Best actor is going to go to a lot of people this year. I would think he'd be great to win. He'd be a great winner. But I actually think what you said, Joe, about like, Project Hail Mary's a win, whether or not he wins Best Actor, is maybe what will keep him from winning Best Actor. Yeah, I think that's probably true.

9:39Because he has this. Maybe why he didn't win. I don't remember who beat him for the, oh, Robert Downey Jr. beat him the Barbie year. That was never going to happen. Should he have won? And Forrest Whitaker beat him for the Half Nelson year. Yeah, but I mean, that's. Should he have won for Barbie? Barbie should have won for everything, so yes. Yeah, I mean, Billy Adler should have Dua Lipa's Oscar. We're all well aware of that. Well, that is true. Harvey shouldn't have won, but yes. Which is the only one that it did win. Yes. Right? It only won one. Because poor things beat. I think poor things beat it in costumes and production design.

10:08Poor things. Yes. Poor things snuck out all those girl awards. I mean, again. The female-coded awards. We're not drafting directors in this, but the Greta Gerwig Oscar redemption is coming. It might be in the next 10 years. We'll see how Narnia pans out, but man, they owe her so much. Okay. Chris Rosen, you are next. I feel like we just took two of your guys off the board. You definitely took the two people I was voting for. That's okay. The third one I had was Andrew Garfield. Yeah. So I think when Andrew Garfield didn't win for Tick, Tick, Boom, which he should have won in real time and now obviously in hindsight.

10:42Well, you talk about a sliding doors moment there. Oh, shit. But I mean, he's so good in Tick, Tick, Boom. He's so good in that movie. And I remember on the campaign, he was like, people really love Andrew Garfield. And I was like very bullish on the movie that doesn't exist that we talked about last episode, We Live in Time, when I first heard about it. I was like, he could win an Oscar for this. Like Kramer vs. Kramer style or whatever. The movie's not that good. It's fine. He's really good in it, though. And, I mean, his choices maybe are strange. I don't know. I thought he was great in After the Hunt.

11:10And I really thought he was, like, maybe the best part of the movie. That's interesting. And he could have gotten nominated. I did not have all the things you're going to say. Well, I'm just saying it was, like, recent stuff. And, like, obviously we'll see how, like, he is in Artificial, right? That's this year, right? How about the Magic Faraway Tree, which he's got coming out this summer? looks really fun I think Andrew Garfield I feel like he maybe this a couple years ago he would have said definitely would win an Oscar in the next five years now I'm like well ten years is good like maybe he'll get in the next ten so I think he's right on target to do it and people just love like he's so charming he reminds you a little of Andrew Scott like we were talking about in the last episode where it's just like get him on a campaign he's gonna be super charming put him up on a stage he does a speech and just be like of course we want this guy to win an Oscar so if it's right movie, I think he'll win.

11:57Yeah, he's managed to seem very, like, authentic in all these press tours, despite, like, obviously it's all very, you know, stage managed and manufactured, but, like, he feels very likable in a way that, like, even Ryan Gosling doesn't quite get there. Like, Ryan Gosling is, like, playing a part, but Andrew Garfield is just, like, the nice man who you are happy to have at your table, which is a very powerful thing on these awards campaigns. Is his Golden Globe from the Golden Globes that didn't exist, that were just tweeted out? Oh, maybe. Where did that fall in the COVID. Music is the best medicine.

12:26Wasn't that the Golden Globes? Yeah, I remember they tweeted something demented about like Rachel Zegler winning for West Side Story. Music is so nice. It wasn't that interesting. So Tick, Tick, Boom and West Side Story were the same year? Yes. Wow, that is wild. We lived in such great times. The COVID pandemic was great. We literally were living in our house. It was so much fun. My new theory. Those are great movies. My new theory is that like 2021, we've talked about this on our podcast, Chris. Yes. 2021 is a much weirder year than 2020. Like that's. Yeah. it's absolutely true well it was just a lot of me like we're back right things are normal and then like the slap happens you're like oh no one's normal like we are all broken yeah yeah uh okay chris jewel on our podcast chris i love that wow it's uh it was meant to be uh chris you you wrap up this round this is so hard because there's a lot of different directions i could go and now I'm kind of navigating the categories to come.

13:21And like, as the list is narrowing down. I feel like we have picked three people whose like faces you could just like mush together like so easily. As much as I love all three of them, it's very homogenous. Well, and I'm also being pulled in different directions of do I want what I want or do I want to win? And those are the two primary forces in my life. Remember, this is a 10-year game, so you have a lot of time to win. Yeah. I think I want to win. So I'm going to say Emily Blunt. I think the clock is rolling now that she has finally gotten a nomination. I don't think Disclosure Day will be the one.

14:03Even I, who loved that movie so much, I maybe have a few misgivings about that performance. I think she's wonderful in it. Yeah, I love her in that. Yeah, and then it, regardless, I think the clock is ticking at this point. And it doesn't necessarily feel like she's going to be doing the type of projects that wouldn't have gotten her an Oscar. Like, as much as we love Edge of Tomorrow slash Live Die Repeat slash whatever they're calling it now, that's not, like, going to win her an Oscar. And even though she won her SAG for A Quiet Place, I don't think A Quiet Place was ever going to win her an Oscar either.

14:49I definitely think these are points that I will be having if we're talking about the next 10 years. I think Disclosure Day did a lot for her career trajectory. I think it's because for as much as, you know, she was sort of in the conversation for The Smashing Machine, I really sort of dismayed seeing her in that kind of a role and just how thankless it was. Just how much it was just sort of just like, oh, play the like, you know, absolute heredan of a girlfriend slash wife or whatever. It's just like, I'm so glad that I think you're right. I think Disclosure Day is not going to end up being an Oscar movie, but it's a movie that everybody saw and everybody talked about and everybody pretty much agreed that she was great.

15:38And she was in two big hits in a row. Like The Force Prada 2 was also huge for her. Yes. Yep. What if she gets in for Disclosure Day? They fraud her in supporting, right? Like they can easily. I'd love it. I'd support her. She could still get nominated. I don't think she's winning for Disclosure Day. No, but she can get nominated. And if she's in there. Supporting is tough. That would be wild. Particularly when lead is so soft. Yeah, just go for it, Chris. It's pretty soft, too, though. I don't know. Oh, my God, where are the women at, guys? I've seen more fraudulent campaigns than that. I'm with Rosa, and I think, like, I could see it happening.

16:13All right. She's, like, so the lead of that movie. Like, Dr. Conor gets wiped off the screen. Not to bring up the Emmys yet again, but, like, did you see the shit they pulled with DTF St. Louis? Where, like, oh, everybody's supporting. It's just, like, fuck you, man. Like, I can't just do that. They love doing things like that. Yeah. I think you might have the most winner pick of all of it, Chris. Yeah, that's a good pick. But Emily Blunt also famously much more beloved by Sag and the Globes than, like, how many Golden Robes does she have? Like, it is many at this point, right? She's at least won one for television.

16:45And then she. Which we don't count for these purposes, we should say. No. But she's won. Oh, she only has one. She's just been nominated a ton. She's been nominated a ton. She was nominated for The Young Victoria. She was nominated for... Mary Poppins' Turns, a good movie. Did they nominate her for Devil Wears Prada? They did nominate her for Devil Wears Prada. Correctly. That was an excellent call. They nominated her for Salmon Fishing in the Yemen. They did. What a great movie. But they led us to the iconic Will Ferrell, Kristen Wiig presenting bit. So it was all worth it. That was all worth it.

17:16Salmon Fishing in the Yemen. Okay, we're on to another category. Pulling out the bucket. I'm trying to hold it up so everyone can see it. Only three categories left. Wow. I know. All right. This is crunch time. I have number seven, which is, I have to keep clicking back. Oh, the comeback Oscar. Okay. Now is where the fan fiction really begins. Would anyone like to bring up Brendan Fraser before we get started? Would anybody, Katie Rosen, would you like to throw another stray at Brendan Fraser? But there are other people we can mention in this. Yes, of course. Zellweger's second Oscar, I think, can be called a comeback Oscar.

17:59Like, this is the kind. It had to be more one for The Substance. That would have been considered a comeback Oscar. Ki-Hu Kwan, would you call? Ki-Hu Kwan, yeah. They don't necessarily have to have been. Like, Amy Madigan, I think you could credibly call that a comeback Oscar. They don't have to have been, like, you know, locked in a cell for a few years or whatever. Jamie Lee Curtis? Would we give it that? Possibly, although, like, I feel like she had sort of started to ramp up with the David Gordon Green Halloween. movies by then but like i guess that's true she was she was more consistently famous but you can make you can make an argument but just like somebody who's been outside of um the spotlight or just like just not not in the realm of these kinds of roles for a very very very long time for whatever reason so yeah there's so many directions you can go with this there really are i think like it's hard because it depends on who i get like like tell us what movie you're imagining which director is making this possible what are the circumstances in which this happens like the more the more info the better but as i say that it's not my turn to pick first it's chris files chris i can only imagine how many good ideas you have for this i have too many ideas for this and also like i have a few ideas that i i wouldn't want come back to be like an insult in some way because there's a lot of people who you could think of in this way that it's like they're still working and doing their own thing they're just not an oscar consideration anymore that's amy madigan she was working consistently well yeah a lot of it on tv but yeah yeah um which just really threw a wrench in what i was gonna do because like the there's the one again there's the one that i want and then there's this other one that i want to maybe be a little cute and that's what i'm gonna do and be like guys it's right there ed harris bring back the symmetry of an Oscar's golden couple.

19:49This is a great pick. It should be Ed Harris. Ed Harris would have qualified for so many of these categories, like honestly, like because nominated four times, I want to say. Four times, yeah. And has at least one golden book. At least twice of those, he was probably second place. Yes. And, you know, just because that was happening back in the 90s, people have kind of forgotten about that. I think it would be really formidable if he was in something and people got reminded of that. Plus, as I mentioned, the Oscars new golden couple of him and Amy Madigan should be an annual staple. He wouldn't even have to do that much.

20:31I guess Judd Hirsch in Fablemans is a bad example because he didn't win but that was something where he was like, oh my god, he's back. We're so happy to have him. He's in 10 minutes of this movie. Get him in there. Did Judd Hirsch do a single interview for the fablemans. No, he definitely did. He was out there as much as you can be in your 80s. But I think Ed Harris has so much power that he could do that. There's a bunch of Tommy Lee Jones roles from the last 10 years that I could imagine that, you know, Ed Harris could take a role like that and get an Oscar nomination for it. Yeah. And he's been working a lot.

21:03Did you know he's on Dutton Ranch? Oh, no. No, but that tracks. Free him. Free him. No, get that paper, Ed. I mean, Annette Bening is on Dutton Ranch and also in that Andy Samberg movie. So why not both? We want the Harris Madigan. And she's on Lucky, the Apple TV show. She sure is. I mean, Annette, hovering over this entire draft. Wait, which one is Lucky? It's the Anya Taylor-Joy show from, it's on Apple. It looks great. I haven't watched it yet. It's out this week. When people are listening, they've already seen it on Apple. Yeah, it's a hit. It's sweeping the nation, I'm sure. It's sweeping the nation.

21:36Like all Apple TV shows do. I will talk about how good Apple TV is. And even still, they will throw me a curveball like Lucky starring Anya Taylor-Joy and M.F. You don't know if something is going to be Sugar Season 2 or Widow's Bay because it all feels so random. And then when something is really good, you're like, oh, everyone actually watched this one this time. Great. Yeah. Apple TV, get out of here. We're talking about movies over here. Chris Rosen. I found this one really – this is the hardest one for me. It is so hard. I'm glad you picked Ed Harris. You can go to Million Directions. I'm going to go Sharon Stone.

22:06I just want her to win an Oscar. and I don't know if it counts as a comeback though but I think it would she was on my list so I mean like she's done Euphoria this past season she has like two scenes with Maude Apatow and she like kind of blows her off the screen I like Maude Apatow but she really is she's playing like ahead of Morner Brothers or something in this season but yeah Sharon Stone's great she should honestly have at least one Oscar I could argue maybe multiple Oscars because I think she should have won for Basic Instinct and she probably could have won for Casino also she's a great actress and like i think she would have such an easy narrative if she came back obviously she's not not she's done it like she's done and talked a lot about her life i think she wrote a did she write a memoir too or am i making this up yes so she's like right so she's like has told her story before but man you get her on a campaign i feel like she would talk a bunch of shit that people would love oh my god she's still a great actress and like i could see the i could see the movie like give her like a auteur director doing like you know she could do like um i don't want it could be as reductive as like the mom reconnecting with her daughter like an older mom like reconnecting with her adult daughter or like oh put her in another scorsese movie would be a great idea i mean that she's not but like playing jennifer lawrence's mom in like a scorsese movie like that's an oscar win as a supporting actress or whatever i realize i'll be like this is great telling her she has to be in a scorsese movie like we don't know how many are left like i know that's a that's a limited we have what happens at night right isn't that the next remember but she's not like uh joe and joe and chris file i know you've watched rolling thunder review because we had to do it for that Scorsese draft.

23:36Remember how great she is pretending to have had an affair with Bob Dylan? So good. She's just the best. I mean, I've always loved her as an actress. She's like so good. And she really, I do think there's one more in her, one more, one more run at this in her in like a real movie. And then she gets an Oscar. Her being on Euphoria is a fantastic evidence. I also, cause I was thinking of her, I went down her IMDB, the amount of times she's played herself in music videos and also on The New Pope in the last like six years. The new Pope. I don't know. What a pull. I don't know why she was on the new Pope.

24:10That's great. But that is evidence of her staying power, that people care about her. They want to put her in whatever these videos are, so she's a perfect pick, I think. You watch all those movies in the 90s. She's fucking amazing. It's quick and the dead. She's amazing. Even the trashy stuff, I'm like, she's so good. She's so, so good. She's such a good actress. Sharon Stone winning an Oscar would be spiritually the universe making it up for Demi Moore not winning an Oscar. Like, that would be, that would nourish my soul in a very similar way. That feels big coming from you, actually, Joe. Yeah, that's, I think we all need that to happen.

24:42I love Sharon Stone. I think, I mean, you know, comparing, you know, their careers and whatever, I think Sharon Stone's career is much more accomplished, I think, than even Demi's. So, yeah. Yeah, she's amazing. Okay, I feel good about my pick also, although I also had a really hard time. I don't know if we're going to get to our discards pile and just go completely nuts, but I feel good about settling on Rosie Perez. Oh, she had that comeback moment with the flight attendant a couple of years ago. She was terrific on that very silly show and was out there and was giving interviews and was so like happy to be back in the mix.

25:22She is working all the time. She shows up as herself in highest to lowest. I think Chris Rosen, we saw her at the premiere, right? Were you with me walking down the street, watching her walk out of there? She's doing a bunch of voice work. Like she is working. I get she is she on the new season of the White Lotus or was she on it? This is her IMDb is leading me astray. She's on the White Lotus. She's in the new season. Yeah, no. Amazing. That is all laying the groundwork. Like, I don't know what director I want to propose for it as much as I said, I want that. But it's again, it's like a it's a supporting turn like we keep talking about, which is what she's so perfect at, like going back all the way to do the right thing.

25:56Like you come in, you get a couple of great scenes. She is such a force of nature. She's genuinely iconic. And like the way that she's continuing to work so much, like she's working with everybody. And this is the like, we're going to talk about this in another category. Like if you are that well-known in the industry and you've worked with everyone and everyone can remember some of your great performances and wants to get another one out of it. I mean, maybe like put her in a Zack Greger movie like Amy Madigan, right? Like put her with a young director who's like admired her and wants to like bring something out of her.

26:25It would be so exciting. She deserves more than just a flight attendant comeback. Have Spike Lee do for her what Mike Lee did for Marianne Jean-Baptiste. Oh, nice. There you go. I don't think I've ever just heard someone be like, the Lees, Mike and Spike. The Lees, you know, Spike and Mike, yes. Yes, but like give her like just a showcase movie. Like I would. I mean. This is such a good pick. I had her written down too. I thought this is a really good one. Yeah, we are all. And you know, I've never seen, God, her nomination in the 90s, Fearless. Fearless. I've never seen it. So I need to see that.

26:57I've, it's been forever since I saw it, but I remember thinking it's really good. She's really good in it and Bridges, but also Isabella Rossellini as Jeff Bridges, his wife is also very good at that. We, I mean the Isabella Rossellini nomination, like that's like the perfect model for a lot of these things that we're talking about. Have her make some copies and stare at a computer screen. Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly. Exactly. All right, Joe, you close this out. I mean, I've been left with just the Sophie's-est of choices here. Vast real estate. You don't understand the number of 80s leading women I have to choose from right now.

27:37Where, like, I gave serious thought to Melanie Griffith. I gave serious thought to Kathleen Turner. It would be so funny if you chose Melanie Griffith and Akita Johnson. That would be great. I didn't even think about that. That would be wild. That's true. I'm flipping the coin and not picking Meg Ryan but I really do want to because I think that would be incredible Meg Ryan will be in the Lena Dunham movie that's exciting I don't know if that's necessarily a path to Oscar but yes that's a comeback we'll take it I think the more plausible the one to me even though and I mean it's the namesake of our of our podcast here so Debra Winger I think I think a Deborah Winger comeback Oscar would be rad as hell.

28:23I think similar to Sharon Stone, the one thing that I would worry about is that she would kind of maybe talk her way out of it. Famously outspoken Deborah Winger. But I think there are just so many contexts in which I could see her succeeding. One of them being something similar to what she had in Rachel Getting Married. And I'm still somewhat surprised that she was not nominated for supporting actress for that movie. She was incredible in that movie. She's really, really good. And, like, that narrative, you know, would have been really fantastic. I could also see her as a, let's say, like, less pitched version of, like, a Melissa Leo in The Fighter kind of a thing.

29:09of just like, you know, a sort of foul-mouthed kind of a mom, but with like a little bit more gravitas than what Melissa was giving. But the other, the one thing I thought of was like, put her in a like nine minute monologue, like monologue heavy scene in a best picture front runner. You know what I mean? Like, where's her Beatrice Strait, you know, style, her Judi Dench in Shakespeare in Love? Just something where she plays a character who shows up about two-thirds into the movie and blows everybody off of the screen and give her an Oscar for that. You know, we— Oh, go ahead. Finish your thought.

29:53Well, I was going to say, famously, you know, nominated for Terms of Endearment along with Shirley MacLaine. Also, was she nominated for— Shadowlands. Shadowlands, yes, of course. And yeah, I think that was, I think those are her only two nominations. No, she's been nominated three times. She had an officer and a gentleman. Yeah. Yes, there we go. I had it pulled up, I didn't just know that. But I also just think like she's, she's got just fantastic screen presence and is just, you know, such an interesting actress. And like that movie, Searching for Deborah Winger, like does mean that she is sort of emblematic, I think for a generation of actresses for this idea that like actresses age out of castability.

30:40And I think there would be a really, really easy way to rally, you know, behind her for, you know, a comeback Oscar for that. The thing I was trying to barge in and say is that it's a good thing that David O. Russell is not making movies at the clip he was before, but like that kind of like everyone in a house yelling and then someone gets a big scene, like, it could be good. Do the Jackie Weaver path for Deborah Winger. Like it could absolutely work. Yep. That's a good one. What a, what a banger lineup of people we have. Every single one of them to get exactly what they deserve. All right. So I'm back to drawing the balls, although we've kind of rigged it.

31:15Cause we have, we have a wild card category that has to be last, but just for the sake of posterity, here's ball number six, which is another one. I think we might argue about character actor. What makes a character actor? Joe, I'm going to wait for you to tell me my picks are wrong. I mean, much in the way that the Supreme Court at one point defined pornography, you know it when you see it. I think we could, you know, we could haggle about it a little bit. But I think in general, we have a decent sense of the cadre of actors who are, you know, who will just show up, punch a clock, you know, deliver a seventh lead that like really knocks it out.

32:00Will, you know, put on a nun's habit and peer over the tops of their glasses and just. Who could you possibly be talking about? and just kill it. So, yeah, I think these actors have a hard time winning Oscars, but it does happen. It has been known to happen. Once again, I will bring up Amy Madigan. I'll bring up J.K. Simmons. You know... Octavia Spencer, would we count? Chris Cooper, I think, kind of applies. Octavia Spencer, yes, exactly. Allison Janney? For movies, yes. Okay, okay. TV, maybe a little bit less so, but yes. in movies that is That's a useful distinction though of like you can be a TV star but a movie character actor.

32:42I think that's true. Katie, you're up first. I know, I know. And I have a, I really want to know where you guys are all thinking before I have to pick. So I think I'm going to go with one. Like I wrote down so many names of delightful people that I look forward to arguing about but then I got kind of a wild hair looking through the Wikipedia of the Odyssey and noticed that Bill Irwin is in the Odyssey. Speaking of Rachel getting married. Speaking of Rachel getting married. I don't even know if he is, you can see his face in The Odyssey. Again, we haven't seen it yet. I'm just thinking of TARS, the icon TARS of Interstellar.

33:16Living legend TARS. I don't know what he is doing in The Odyssey. I'm not saying it's happening. He's the Cyclops, right? Is he? I believe he is, yes. He's the Cyclops. Oh my gosh. Yes. Okay, so he needs to play a human being in a Nolan movie, which might be the bar player. But he's worked with everybody. He's working with top-tier directors like Rocky the alien ran because Tars walked. Like he is like building iconic things over time. Tars kind of rolled, but yeah. He's like, yeah, he like shuffles. No way. Sorry. That was Case who rolled. Case moved very quickly and rolled. Tars has like the little legs that like go back and forth.

33:53We just love to talk about Tars. And yeah, I mean, it's the same thing with all of these. I think we're going to say it's like, it just has to be the right role. Like this person has put all the pieces in place and you can't predict what the, like the bolt of lightning that's going to strike is going to be. But like, I think being in a Nolan movie in a role the size, even of like the one Matt Damon had in Oppenheimer, like A, he could knock it out of the park and B, could get that nomination for it. And everyone would be like, oh, shit, Bill Irwin. Like, what have we been doing this whole time?

34:19We were like, we're ready for it. So I would personally love to see that happen for my mantars. Probably not for Cyclops, though. That's a good pick, though. He's also been around forever and has worked with probably like everybody. he's like the most revered living clown I was going to say I love his history as a clown that's such a cool angle for him do you think that a Connor Story's clowning history is just going to raise the status of clowns? it's going to be a great period for clowns father and son clown movie Bill Irwin and Connor Story I would love it I'm ready, put them both in there okay, that was a tough pick Joe, you have to go next oh, okay Um, yeah, lots to choose from here.

35:06Um, ultimately, there was one at the top of my list that I'm not going to be able to get away from. And I just have such a good feeling about this. I mentioned, you know, wearing a nun's habit and peering over the top of your glasses. The person, Elizabeth Marvel, is probably most often peering over her glasses, too, at home is Bill Camp. And I think I could really easily see Bill Camp just, like, getting the perfect, the perfect role. I think he's been more TV-coded up until this point. He has two Emmy nominations for The Night Of and Presumed Innocence. I think both of those he plays lawyers detective or a lawyer cop or yeah like yes um but I also think of roles like him in he's the one in wildlife right who's uh who's uh dating or whatever courting uh Carey Mulligan away from Jake Gyllenhaal correct um I love him famously in Molly's game as the guy going on tilt in Molly's game.

36:23He's so good in that. I just feel like he has that J.K. Simmons thing of like throw him in ten movies and in nine of them he's going to just be like a plug and play like, you know, part of the ensemble. And then in that tenth one he's just going to like absolutely blow you off of the map. And I think I would love to see it happen. And who knows? Who knows? This could be a, you know, a wishful thinking pick, but wouldn't it be fun? I'm realizing looking at his known for, not to spoil some future I &B game, you'll play it, but he's in both 12 Years a Slave and Birdman, so he was in back-to-back Best Picture winners.

37:00I didn't realize he was in either of them. That's the power of a character actor. The Jesse Plemons of the early teens, many are calling him. Yeah. Jesse Plemons, I guess, is not a character actor, but does feel and so in the lineage of all these people we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Excellent, iconic pick, as I imagine all of these are going to be. Chris Feil, you're next. I feel like this is going to get some quibbles in terms of character extra distinction. But again, I want to win. And when Joe is talking about you can see this person holding their Oscar at some point, And, like, I think this actor, who I really love, does, like, kind of show up in a lot of different unexpected things.

37:52You would kind of like to see this performer given bigger roles in some of those things. But I have to get someone from the Sheep Detectives in here. And I'm saying Hong Chao. Oh! Nice. Good pick. Fun pick. I think she absolutely counts. Really good. I don't think I knew she was in The Sheep Detectives. Katie, what are you doing if you haven't seen The Sheep Detective? I know, I'm embarrassing myself. I think you'd like it. It's very cute. It's cute. I absolutely see Hong Chao having an Oscar in the next decade. And she does play smaller character roles in things, whether it's a Yorchus Lanthimos movie, whether it's The Sheep Detectives, or almost getting nominated for Downsizing.

38:39the menu she's actually really good in the menu the menu when people talk about loving Hong Chao they talk about the menu it's one of the first things that they'll like mention that nomination for the whale could have just as easily not happened considering that whole campaign was the Brendan Fraser show yeah and I think the fact that she did get nominated shows that there is real respect for her out there thoughts on her in weathering heights this year uh one of the more interesting things of the movie even if i know that that is controversial i couldn't believe what was going on in that story in that part of right the story as it was going on part of the story is bizarre it's so weird it's so crazy um but i love her like i love seeing her sort of like get up in the mix there yeah she's so good at like being like kind of mean and scary and but like also like someone you want to be around she's got i feel like we haven't even seen everything you can do remember and i think regardless of what she's in or what role she's playing and like what genre she's like working with she always brings this like kind of grounded reality to everything even when it's something that's like heightened and semi-ridiculous like weathering heights uh so that it's like we maybe don't think of her as a character actor but i do think that she counts yeah yeah i think that's a great pick all right all right chris rosen he got a lot to choose from i want to get a ruling on i do have way too many to choose from i want to get a ruling on mine before well i'll do it but brian tyree henry do we consider him a character actor oh i've never seen him play a lead so yeah he was on the lead on tv at katie's favorite show

40:24i'm gonna pick him then if we're counting him as i think i would qualify him as a character Brian Kerr. Yeah. I mean, I think he got to, he got an Oscar nomination through sheer force of his charisma off screen for Causeway, which is a movie that does not exist. A very nice movie. It's a very forgettable movie. One of the most crazy Oscar nominations we've had in the last 10 years because no one has seen that movie. No one even knows about it. He's opposite Jennifer Lawrence. It doesn't get talked about enough how wild it is. Wait, was that also 2021 and how weird that movie year was? That was 2022, I think.

40:55Again, 22, also still weird. but he was great in the movie and he's just a great, I think he's such a great, I mean, he was so good in Beale street, like just one scene crushing and he's really fun in bullet train, which is beef's favorite movie, right? Uh, Oscar Isaac and, uh,

41:16bullet train is a very important part. I think he's just a fantastic. I absolutely think he can win an Oscar in the next 10 years. Uh, I think he would be supporting Oscar winner if he was going to get one, like he did for Causeway. it's so easy to imagine him in some you know bigger ensemble and like just crushing it in like three scenes or four scenes. As he does in Widows a fantastic movie that he's amazing in. He could have easily Oscar worthy in Widows. I think he just feels like a guy who's going to win one and I think he would be such a great Oscar winner. I think he could have won for Widows and Beale Street.

41:48Really good recent guest judge on RuPaul's Drag Race. Wow! I did not know that. If you weren't going to count him, I had other people too. Including Michael Stuhlbar, who I'm shocked nobody here mentioned. That's true. That's an oversight on my part. Stuhlbar's a good idea for that. I also had in my back pocket, in case somebody had taken Bill Camp, I had Bob Balaban ready and waiting to go. I didn't know if you guys were going to rule Tracy Letts as a character actor because he's so famous for doing other stuff too. No, that would have been. He and Bill Erwin and Bill Camp are really operating in the same water.

42:24He is so good in House of Dynamite. I just rewatched The Post the other day, and Tracy Letts fricking rules in that movie. What a great idea. Fritz, he plays Fritz. Okay, so we're on to our final Marty Supreme Ball, Ball 8, which is wild card. No pressure, guys, but there's a lot of people left on the board. There sure are. This could be the path to victory. No rules, no age ranges or geography. as I keep saying like people in their 40s and 50s are just kind of like hanging around is not quite ready for a comeback and also not young enough. So I also want to resist the idea of this just being like a catch-all like this is a free space where we just put someone who we didn't pick like the category being wild card.

43:15I don't want to speak for everybody. I do want to have You're making that a descriptive. A little bit of risk involved. You know, like. Okay. I might try. For me. But I have my heart set up for some people who might not qualify. I know, I know. My heart is, I've broken my own heart by some of the people I haven't picked already. But Chris Rosen, you have to go first and you can decide how you want to take it. I was not going to do it goofily. I was going to do it down the, like I was going to try to pick somebody. We're in it to win, Chris. I'm trying. I'm in it to win. No, I'm in it to win. I'm in it to win.

43:50man this is so hard I have so many people on my theater it's really nuts who's going to win an Oscar in 10 years from this list of people there's so many people I want to pick I want to pick in that like we're saying like the 40 range I think is strong or like 50 range I think is good but I'm going to take Robert Pattinson here to fuck all you guys took my pick took my pick the two things I have better for get taken from me. You were going to pick Pattinson the most obvious. Sorry. Such a good pick. You were trying to say this out. I was trying to tell you. No, Pattinson is definitely going to win an Oscar in the next 10 years.

44:27He could probably win. He definitely is. If it wasn't for Paul Giamatti, who's absolutely winning an Oscar, as I said in the last episode. I haven't seen Odyssey, and we'll have seen it by the time this is out. But I'm like, what if he won for Odyssey? Odyssey, Dune, the primetime he's supposed to be really, really good in, I have heard. But Tom Cruise is going to win that Oscar. Even if he doesn't win for any of these, and even if he doesn't even get nominated for any of these like five or six movies that he could possibly get nominated for. Like it just is so obvious then that it's going to be like, we got to get this guy an Oscar.

44:54And like he has so many, he has such good taste and so takes so many chances and so many varied things that I just feel like one of these will hit. And once he gets in, like it's going to be just a runaway because like people love him. They respect him as an actor. And yeah, like it's just like once he gets the one project, it's over. We didn't even say here comes the flood. Who knows what that movie is going to have in store. Oh, wow. Yes. That's the Fernando Morellas? Yes. Yeah. It's him and Denzel Washington, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, speaking of people who are charming, him on any press tour is such an incredible delight.

45:29He is so good at doing all this stuff. Saying things like he's Gen Z. Or that he sees the Odyssey as a choice between Edward and Jacob. Penelope can't choose who she wants to be with. So good. He's such a goof. He's such a troll. All-time troll. The best. he's amazing at this no he's just gonna have to win an Oscar in the next 10 years it's not an option yeah wow Chris Rosen came to win Chris Feil now are you gonna take a wild card pick like you tried to get us to do well I mean I was logically trying to say that Pattinson is a wild card and also hold up on my bet that we made in our like early year predictions and pick him no I think I'm gonna stick with something that I think a previous, someone who is a previous Oscar nominee but I do think in like terms of their career, people like us want to see this person Oscar nominated, but who knows if it could happen again for this person and I'm saying Kirsten Dunst, I am representing the Plemons Dunst household on my picks So the Minecraft sequel you think is gonna do it?

46:42Hey she could still do something in the same year and then she gets the reward for having her box office hit and then she gets to do her critical fave as well and gets rewarded for that that's true and they get to build a screen porch on their house when have you given it to another Rodart movie let's hope not that movie is not good on her journey toward worse she has entertainment systems down soon presumably next year so that would be big. Who knows who's going to break away from that movie. That ensemble is huge. Just the people that we know that's in it. But we also know she's never going to stop working with Sofia Coppola.

47:26And I do think that Power of the Dog did break through for some people to finally take her seriously. So yeah. I still consider her my wild card. She is a true icon. The more millennial they get voting in the Oscar body, the more seriously they'll take Kirsten Dunst. Yeah. She is top of that mountain. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, entertainment system is down as her and also Keanu Reeves, so I guess in theory could be coming up soon who has never been Oscar nominated. Oh, my God. The moment could come. I mean, talk about a wild card pick. I know. Jeez, yeah. I mean, Joe, I assume you've got someone in mind already, but it's your turn.

48:05No, you've thrown a wrench into that. No, oh, my God. Um, so Chris File saying what you, what you did about making this a true wildcard pick. You almost had me saying, fuck it, I'm picking Ben Mendelsohn. Um, but. What a great pick. That would be great. Never been bad. He was on my list and I did have him highlighted because like, I do feel like that is a thing that could actually happen. I'm going to play it a bit safer and I'm taking Coleman Domingo you think that's a wild card? I don't think it's, well I don't think it's a wild card in the way that you describe it I'm taking it as a, I didn't pick him yet and I should pick him and he wasn't really available in any of these other categories I guess he's in the mix this year this year for Michael We'll not talk about that.

49:04He should be in the mix this year for Disclosure Day. He is the best performance in that movie. He's excellent in that movie. He's excellent in that movie. I really like him a lot. But also, people who vote for awards love Coleman Domingo. Like, I looked this up today. Coleman Domingo is the lone nominee for the four seasons for the second year in a row. It's crazy. That's an amazing stat. Like two years in a row, they're like, we could take or leave this show, but you, we are nominating you. Like people love him. I think he's good on that show. He is. He's like so heads and shoulders above everybody else.

49:40I don't, I'm glad for him, but I don't really get it. I find that show to be an incredibly pleasant thing to have on television while I am doing other things. And that is like not the, like, that's a genuine compliment for me. Like I do think, but like, yeah, no, like there's the reason to nominate him is just to be like, I want to be in the Coleman Domingo business. He's also nominated for Euphoria this year for the Emmys. But he's been nominated for two Oscars already, for Rustin, a movie that did not need to be an Oscar nominee, and for Sing Sing, a movie that was really good and he was fantastic in it.

50:13So I think he's already gotten two Oscar nominations where it's not even about the demand is there. It's just like, we want to be in this guy's business. We want to be on the Coleman Domingo train. And those are the people who win Oscars within a short window. With like, that is one of those things where it's just like, this thing is ramping up. It's the Colin Firth, a single man thing. Exactly, exactly. So, yeah, I feel very, very good about that pick. Yeah. Yeah, what do you think? Do you think Michael is going to push? I hope not. But, you know, I would rather if Clement Domingo is going to win an Oscar, I would like it to be for something that's not that.

51:00So unfortunately, we don't always get to be in charge of those things. Unfortunately. Yeah. OK, I'm getting to the end and I understand I have the last pick. I understand the emphasis toward wildcard. We will talk about all the bolder picks that we might be leaving behind. but I am staying true to my theater kid, try hard heart, 12 Oscar nominations. Bradley Cooper is going to win one. And maybe it's for that Ocean's movie. Maybe it's disappointed. I cannot get out of this draft without picking Bradley Cooper. I, hang on. Is there a movie I'm forgetting? I thought, is this thing almost terrific?

51:38And everybody else gave it a big fat nothing, which is fine. I'm with you. Good movie. I enjoyed that movie. He's great in it. A Star is Born, obviously, an all-timer. Like, I don't, I think we appreciated it at the time, but still didn't appreciate enough how good we had it. Maestro is messy, but also maybe underappreciated. I should probably watch Maestro again. I just think he's got the talent. He's got the power. He's got the interest in doing a lot of different things. I'm really glad he made Is This Thing On? It's kind of like, let's just do this weird one and see what's going on. He's really funny in it as balls.

52:10Can't explain why that character is named that. weird stuff going on in that. This Ocean's movie should be fun, and he's got all the power to do whatever he wants. Like, that blank checkability for him to, I mean, he might drive himself off a cliff, like, you know, 76, Barbara Streisand, Star is Born, but, like, there's just so much he can do. He's got all the access. He's clearly talented. He's clearly in the wheelhouse. He keeps getting nominated. I mean, the movie, Star is Born just was so close, and I, you know, you look back and you're like, why didn't that, like, go over the finish line in the year of Green Book?

52:41but that year was kind of cursed. So I don't know how to say what it should be, but it's going to be something. Can I tell you something that I just discovered? His upcoming film section in IMDb is the craziest thing you're ever going to see. It's Untitled Ocean's Prequel. It is the upcoming Bong Joon-ho movie that is either called Ally or Ally. Ally's spelled the exact same way that it's spelled in A Star is Born. and it's an animated movie about fish. Great. Untitled Sean Penn January 6th drama. Yeah. Oh my God, I forgot about that. Do not want. Two parentheses rumored, parentheses your nightmares.

53:25And then Untitled Frank Bullet Project where it is listed as production unknown, which I don't think I've ever seen on IMDb before. They're just like - That's a Spielberg movie. Yeah. And it's like a Buzz Lightyear situation where it's the real guy who Steve McQueen was playing in the movie Bullet. It's a Buzz Lightyear situation. We got a real Buzz Lightyear situation happening going on. The man who played the doll in the television show that Andy watched. But is that not the most chaotic set of IMDb babies you've ever seen in your entire life? Like, my God. Incredible. Why? I do. Even though I have picked him here, like, do I want his Oscar to be for acting or do I want him to like win best director or best picture at some point?

54:09Like I would kind of take any of them. I would take any of it. Yeah. It doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other. It would be really funny if he got nominated for like co-writing a song from like one of his movies or something. Oh, sure. Sure. I'm kind of surprised that he didn't get a writing credit in any of the On Shallow. Star is Born or Shallow. Yeah, exactly. Like that would have been great to have the two of them in their like campaign romance that was going on for that. We all do remember all that. Again, we had it so good. We really did. I hope we appreciated it enough. We really did.

54:42Yeah. Well, guys, that's our draft picks. We'll have a list this all on Substack and Patreon and all the other places where you can see everybody. Anybody feeling confident that they've got the winning draft? I mean, I feel great about mine, but I do not feel confident. We should find a way to get our listeners to vote on who has the best roster. Sure. Head to Instagram. Make fun of us for our picks. I mean, my hope is that we revisit this in a year. We can take it about anyone who's aged out under 40, anyone who's won. Revisit. I don't know. We can come up with a structure for it. But again, this is a long game.

55:13We're going to see this through. Do we want to go around and each say our one biggest regret that we didn't pick? Oh, I have a number one with a bullet. Who's that? Angela Bassett. She was high on my list for that. Joe, when you said two-time Golden Globe winner, I thought you were going to pick Angela Bassett. She is in fact a two time Golden Globe winner. That's where I was thinking of picking her. But 9-1-1 is not ending anytime soon. Yeah. She keeps narrating things. Yeah. I mean, nobody picked Amy Adams or Glenn Close. I was going to say that's surprising to me that nobody picked it. Is it though?

55:45Well, I think Glenn Close is winning a competitive Oscar before she's done. I do think that's happening. So it's like, I'm almost surprised I didn't pick her because I do feel that emphatically. My biggest surprise is that I didn't pick Willem Dafoe. I really, really thought I was going to have them going Dafoe on one of these. I think he's most surprising to not show up here. Can you see a fun one for this year? Like, if Werewolf. Because I think I've told all of you guys, like, I'm high on Werewolf being a, like, best picture weirdo pick. And I would love it if Willem Dafoe, I have no idea if he's got a big part in it, but that would be so fun.

56:17That would be, yes. nobody picked Sebastian Stan who I think is an interesting one in the mix this year and is clearly like in the club or I'm just I'm looking at the who's in who's in this year Jeremy Strong I think our apprentice boys are obviously coming through I'm shocked none of you picked Turturro because I know this is like the John Turturro hype squad that I'm talking to you about I think he's like a one and out yeah you think he's gonna get that nomination I do think he'll get nominated but I think he's like one and out like you know it's like hey congrats or with all this Digger hype like John Goodman coming in for his first nomination.

56:51Like, would he not just the minute you get in there being like, holy shit, we got to give it to John Goodman. Yeah. Joe and I were talking about this recently that it's like, you really could just have the whole Lebowski cast nominated this year, except for Jeff Bridges. It's possible by the time people listen to this, I will have written about this because I keep saying it out loud. I mean, like I can write this down. I need credit. What's, what's Flea doing this year? Let's figure it out. Tara Reid, Where are you? Where indeed? Oh, a big one for me was Edward Norton. I feel like that's coming.

57:25He's so good in the invite. I think he's going to get nominated for the invite, right? He'll probably get nominated for it. I've still got to see that movie. Everybody loves it. I literally haven't seen a single person react to it in a way that wasn't effusive. I think it's pretty good. Okay, well then you're the one. But he's really great in it. Okay. I'm surprised nobody picked Sandra Huller as the other one. She does feel like she is like on a rocket ship to an Oscar at this point, career trajectory wise. Or Renata Reinsfield. Or Renata Reinsfield. Well, she's stuck in the back rooms, though.

57:56We've got to get her out of there. Get her out of there. Before that can happen. Is there anyone like what you said about Totoro that you think like is on this list, but is just never going to get there? Adam Driver. Ooh. Oh, interesting. He's so young for you to be giving up on him already. Do you think Lena Dunham has cursed him with her words in her memoir? Like everybody else is saying? Listen, I love her. She is way fairer to him in that book than the headlines would have you believe. People are very invested in a narrative of Lena Dunham destroys X, Y, and Z people. People are too happy about this Jack Antonoff divorce, I'm just going to say.

58:36Like, you don't need to be that happy about two people you don't know getting divorced. That's all I'm going to say about that. The one I was going to throw out, hang on, what was I going to say? Oh, God, hang on, someone else go. I had two that I didn't pick. I had two that I was trying to figure out how to fit them in, but Carey Mulligan and Rosamund Pike, I think both could win Oscars. Are Pride and Prejudice Girls? I really think both of them could. Carey Mulligan probably more so than Rosamund, but I do think that they're both in the market for an Oscar in the next decade. I've told you all, Rosamund Pike is incredible, and now you see me three.

59:09I'm sure she is. There's a South African diamond in this. I believe you 100%. As Dominic Sessa fans, you all owe it to yourselves to see that one, I think. Well, and Radcliffe's in that one too, right? No. I know he's more in the second one than the earlier ones. He's not in it at all. Oh, okay. Or second one. I think he's in the second one. I think he's added in the second one. Yes. No, Rosamund Pike is doing the Daniel Radcliffe thing in the third one. Got it. In the third one. The whole weekend day I have off, I will do all those movies. I did think, Katie, you were going to pick Wagner Mora.

59:38I know. I thought a lot about Wagner Mora. I do think the like, the like supporting actor villain role. I think I was saying like, cause it's him and, um, who's the actress who got added? Oh, Vicky creeps. And I was like, I want, I want them to be like a pair of like sexy international villains who like you want to be around, but are also scared of. Yeah. We predict the Oscars early and whatever fucking year that comes out. It's going to be 15 Oscars. When they do the live action, Alvin and the chipmunks movie, they're going to play the European villains and they are going to be so good put them on the Muppet show can't wait for that what I need from the new oceans is I need because it's like early Vegas right I need Tom Jones literal Tom Jones to be a character and someone needs to play Tom Jones in that movie because you know Bradley Cooper's going to have a musical sequence in this movie somewhere it's just like Austin Butler's moment and he's just going to get back into that mode.

1:00:42I'd see it. Fantastic. The one I was going to throw out that I think, like, may never happen, like, Ralph Fiennes. What if it just never happened? What if coming back for Conclave was, like, as far as that goes? Not that he's, like, not continuing to be great, but I kind of feel like we could leave it there. I feel like Michelle Pfeiffer I'm in the same place with, where it's just, like, she's now just, like, she's just doing TV stuff and, like, I don't know. One name that like I felt like hope ditty about that I considered as much as I could drafting this person is Rachel McAdams. Oh, yeah. So good.

1:01:19Rachel McAdams. Are we going to do the like the send help campaign and just be like. I am at the front line. She will be on my ballot this year. I guarantee you. Yes. Throw in the comedy and she gets. Oh, that's not a bad one. That's my favorite thing to do is to not campaign for somebody to get an Oscar nomination, but to campaign for them to get a Golden Globe nomination. It feels much more attainable. It feels much more that I can have an impact that will be positive. And as we saw with Andrew Garfield for Tick, Tick, Boom, it can be remembered for all time. I want to throw out – my computer's going to die, so I'm going to have to stop recording in some way.

1:01:53But I do want to throw out – I had one crazy comeback idea that I just want to say out loud, even though I didn't get to put it in there. Jim Carrey. What if he's a Jim Carrey? Did you? Yes, I had him written down for, I could have done him for Globes winner. I don't know if he'd do it. Like, is he too, like, off? I don't know what he's up to these days. He's doing Sonic movies, and I gotta say, he's still throwing 100 miles an hour in these Sonic movies. But that's why he's doing that movie. We've watched all of them with Luna, and he is hilarious doing Jim Carrey shit in these terrible Sonic movies.

1:02:24And so if he ever wanted to do it again, he could do it. He can do it. Just give him, have Bradley Cooper direct Jim Carrey's comeback view. this can be done is there a Truman show and put Ed Harris in it and then we get out of Oscar uh but wait did anyone else have good comebacks though that they want to have out there for the record in case it happens my gay guy I mean the one that I was like am I insulting to say that that's a comeback is Laura Linney I I want Laura Linney's Oscar I will be saying that till the day that I died but if we want a real Amy Madigan situation when people are like who's the next Amy Madigan thinking like we can have a one-to-one Kathy Baker Kathy fucking Baker yeah another comeback I had was Cameron Diaz I had her on my list too I think she could do it Demi Moore style but like you know whatever Demi Moore style exactly because she was never nominated even though she should have been a couple of times and not like a serious actress even though she's like really good in her stuff and like yeah I think that's good well in theory we'll figure out how to do this in a year but we'll get a whole other crack at it in the years to come.

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