A Farewell (of Sorts) Mailbag!

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1:30Musa Okwonga: Hello and welcome back to the Stadio Podcast. I'm Misukwonga. I'm Ryan. Ryan, how are you doing? All right, thanks, man. How are you? Oh my God, so good. Went to the Carnival of Cultures in Berlin at the weekend. I saw your photo. Dude, I was going by one of the parades and it was unreal. And the one I was behind, they said, it was on local TV being live-screened and they said... Live-screened. Live-screened. that's that's the audience yeah and they said it was the best thing ever said look at this presentation they said it's very clear the message is this presentation migration is not the problem migration is the future i was like oh yes dude it's not even the future listen it's the past the present and the future and it always will be bars upon bars the guy said it they got the commentator said they just leaned back he was like i cooked there good love to see it well on that note we hope everyone's staying safe staying well wherever you are yes we have some news we do indeed we do indeed this is our final show on the ringer the last one after five years the last dance yeah so first of all we should clear up that we're not stopping Stadio you don't have to do anything you do not you still stay subscribed to where you're subscribed now where you're listening to us you don't have to do a thing stay seated we're going to take a couple of weeks off after today's show and then through the summer we'll we'll pop up with a couple of shows and then at the end of july beginning of august we'll fill you all in with what it's going to look like going forward but yeah i mean first of all i think we just want to say thanks to everyone at the ringer for having us for five years yeah for bringing us in yep work with some incredible people we had a great time yeah it just feels like the right time for us to step out into the big scary world of podcasts yeah just in terms of everyone at the ringer incredible to be brought in such a an honor to be part of the gang so many amazing colleagues and i know if i shout out people for less time than others then others will feel left out so i won't but like we just shout out everyone exactly it's a collective shout out this is for you this is for you exactly um and also just can i just be yeah just really really excited about what we're going to show you next.

3:54Musa Okwonga: I can't give you any spoilers because I don't know. With my writing, my podcast, no spoilers, but yeah, really excited. We joined the ringer in 2020. You know, we hadn't been going a long time. Yeah. Yeah. And it was really cool to be on there for, for such a long time as well. Five years. Yeah, exactly. Wild. And you and I are older. That's half a decade. I mean, given the length of my life, it's nothing at all. It's a blink of an eye, but still. it's been 84 years

4:24don't worry about anything else everything else is still going to be as normal like I said don't have to worry about finding us elsewhere you stay subscribed on this feed and we'll fill you in with all you need to know through the summer don't touch that dial you literally just don't have to lift a finger how about that how about that for service so we're going to sail off into the metaphorical podcasting sunset with a mailbag. And do you know what? There's not even going to be any extra admin today.

4:58Musa Okwonga: Oh, wow. Last day of school vibes. Alright, let's get into it after this. Let's do it.

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6:21All right, man, you wanted to jump in with some tennis chat, so I'm going to assist you. Wow. Because we've got a question from Jacob Stack.

6:29Musa Okwonga: Oh, my goodness. Listen, incredible, incredible illustrator, even better human. Incredible. Unreal. Some say the goat. Some say the goat. Well, I mean, he signed off with a goat message. He said, Moose and Ryan, the tennis. what the hell oh my goodness and then he said go pacers legend for that he's a legend for that so you want to talk about the tennis very quick yeah just um so carlos alcaraz beating yannick sinner in five sets in the final of the french open he's now five and oh in grand slam finals but but but the reason i want to talk about alcaraz you talk about a monument to resilience persistence we talked about roy mccroy winning the golf right and the journey he went on alcaraz goes on a 10-year journey in the space of a single tennis match.

7:19Musa Okwonga: And the thing about tennis is it's so visceral, right? You're literally up against, you're seeing, you're facing eternity, right? You're across the net from your legacy, from your fate, everything. Like it's so visceral, even in a way I think even golf is not, right? Because you're looking into the eyes of your competitor every single point. And the thing about his victory that's so mind-blowing is When you're facing not just defeat, but failure, like proper abject failure, and to pull yourself back from that in the space of two hours. I mean, I've been watching our crowds a little bit now, and I didn't catch the game live because I was at the parade.

8:01Musa Okwonga: I've never done this before with a set of highlights. I had to instantly rewind them. i had to instantly rewind the highlights because i was so even like in all the years of watching him he found a way to shock me even in the best possible way even now and i don't know it's weird because it's only tennis right but it's not it's like so profoundly inspiring it makes you sit there and go okay like what stuff have i kind of given up on i should i should really be doing and i'm already looking at like my list of to-dos and i'm like actually i'm gonna i'm gonna to give that a go again just by virtue of having watched this genius um do what he does yeah thank you speaking of geniuses coco won the the women's french open as well and it was really interesting that both number two seeds beat the number one seed in the final i mean i think for for coco golf it was a bit smoother for her 6-2-6-4 but still like in terms of the resilience though i think there's a similarity i think there's her in major finals too um and just even afterwards i can understand like when you lose you're not the most graceful in defeat and i get that like it's and it's difficult to lose an opponent that's so spiky that finds weird angles you know an opponent that just will not give up and i think that's the thing they both share it's never over with those people it's never you're looking across the net like and just going please just give up like alcaraz's winner at the very end it was so cathartic so exhilarating and you just poor sinner like he's a huge guy and it's not often you see a huge guy like almost like he seemed to like evaporate not like he gave up i'm not saying that i'm just that he was he was vanquished like infinity war yeah totally it was it was really it was like if thanos played tennis

9:50Musa Okwonga: this is so silly but anyway sorry jake you're gonna start a tennis podcast aren't you yeah why not let's move on to some football questions this one from tim koblant from colorado moosa and ryan congratulations on your well-deserved appointments as fictional sporting directors of your own football clubs oh thanks very much the role comes with some immediate decisions and i'm eager to hear each of your choices first what city would you like your club to be located in? Who would you like to be your celebrity minority owner? Lastly, which current footballer would you choose to be your future manager?

10:33Lots of love, Tim from Colorado. Wait, so we're not in charge of current clubs. This is if. Wait, if it's a franchise, are we talking MLS franchise? I think we've been given freedom. Someone say too much freedom

10:52Musa Okwonga: Never too much Never too much I'm going to go hipster Oh what a surprise

11:02Musa Okwonga: Do you know who said I'm going to go for Genoa

11:15Wrong time to take a sip of water

11:21go on i'm listening i already have questions but i'm listening okay because it's the i went there

11:25Musa Okwonga: for um a wedding and uh well town just around the corner from genoa uh for a wedding and i saw the moon come out of the lake like the sunset the moon came out of the lake i'm like okay i want able to see that i want to be able to see that every evening also the food was mind-blowing the food was unbelievable so i've got to go with the food and i've got to go with the location that players when they're like genoa they're like oh my goodness of course seidoff moved to sampdoria so i've got a soft spot for it i think genoa just the location is spectacular right the food the location everything would be an easy sell right um and a backdrop for incredible football the minority owner has to be Ryan Coogler.

12:12Musa Okwonga: It has to be Ryan Coogler. Because can you imagine, first of all, he's amazing. He has the most incredible mind. One of the best things about the movie Sinners is the interview run he's done as a result of it. And every time, I thought I couldn't admire this man anymore, but not just his creativity, but his work ethic, his humanity, his heart. I just think Ryan Coogler at Genoa would be absolutely incredible. In terms of a current footballer, I choose to be a future manager. I mean, the best managers are always, they're always defensive midfielders, aren't they? Defense midfielders, midfielders, centre-backs, because they're people that see the game in front of them um i'm slightly pandering here i'm slightly pandering here i know that uh because of his recent performances in seria but i actually would love to have at some point scott mctominay doing a spell of management in general because he knows italy he'd get all the love he got all the respect for embracing aspects of italian car i mean naples is the south but still but like i just think scott mcdominay has already surprised us so much in terms of what he's achieved in seriat as a player and i think there's a manager i think he's been through so much in his career i think he'd be a really good boss too so yeah those are my those are my shouts not bad though not bad not bad at all you're surprised like it's looking ropey for a while there people have like come closer to the speakers being like it's not looking good for Ryan.

13:51Ryan's got a phone. He had us in the first half, not going to lie.

13:58Right, I need to think of a city. You did exactly what I expected you to do, which was just to come in and crush existing, iconic football teams. Just stomp, stomp all over their market. Just bump, bump, bump, bump, bump. So I'm trying to think of somewhere that doesn't have a massive, like this is the thing, lots of places have lovely football teams already so I'm trying to think of where to go that doesn't have a football team already

14:26Musa Okwonga: I love that, do you know what, I'm not going to throw something I've already said mine but so yeah go for it but it's tough though because like some of my favourite cities are like they've already got football clubs in do you know who doesn't have a really good football club between not this is I'll just speak while you're finding yours I grew up in West Drayton and there's a huge stretch of the Thames Valley that doesn't have football at the level that I think it should be. Doesn't it? We don't need another team in the South. Oh yes, yes we do. I'll take it. Nope. There was once a club at the top of my road where I grew up.

15:03Musa Okwonga: Oh, that's nice. That's a nice story. But you all can't wait for more gems like that coming on Stadio next season. It was like, wow man, since they left the ring they really fell off. Stadio 3.0, older and more tired. The grandpa edition. Do you know what? I like that idea so much. And I like your answer so much. I'm going to save mine. So if you want to answer that question as well, send us yours, hello at stadio.football, and then I'll think of mine and do mine then. Oh, by the way, thanks to everyone who submitted all the questions that we couldn't read out and also to everyone who suggested some 11s.

15:48those ones are always tricky on mailbags because we like doing episodes about them. But we might take some of your ideas for 11s and when we do, we'll shout them out and credit people because I think we're going to do a few more 11s soon. Anyway, next question.

16:02Musa Okwonga: Love that, by the way. Thank you. Alex Peters says, Hey, lads, hope you're both keeping well. Thanks, Alex. Hope you are too. Pretty simple one from me. We are a year out from the Men's World Cup. Can you give one wild and one reasonable prediction for the tournament? one wild prediction, the tournament won't finish. Oh, see, my wild prediction was that it was going to go ahead.

16:26Honestly. That's genuinely my wild prediction was that it will go ahead.

16:37Musa Okwonga: Seriously. No, that's what's so funny. Like, my wild ends where your reasonable begins.

16:52yeah i my wild prediction is that it won't it won't it won't happen my reasonable is that it will happen i think that tells you everything you need to know about the true chaos about the true chaos actually on that can we just shout out what happened the other day when uh angiopostococcoli got fired. Yes. And we have, well, got fired, left, left, let's say. We both wrote some stuff on Blue Sky and it felt like we got a glimpse into the two sides of Stadio. Yes. So Musa Akwanga on side 1A, the perfect story arc. The protagonist goes from hero to villain to hero, vanquishing his enemies for succumbing to his fatal wombs under the setting sun.

17:39Side 1B, Musa Okwanga. I can't help myself. I'm jealous of Ange. This is the dream exit. Second only to scoring the match-clinching goal late on in a major final and getting a red card shortly afterwards, departing to a standing evasion. And then you have the flip side of Stadio, which is Ryan Hunt. Ange to the Bundesliga, please.

18:07Musa Okwonga: Never have I seen a podcast so unbranded.

18:14um so all right so is that are you having so it won't finish as your reasonable prediction

18:18Musa Okwonga: uh it won't i think it's both it's my wild and my reasonable one it won't finish i think they're one of the same interesting um oh reasonable prediction for this world cup i don't know let me be boring erling hall and top scorer i don't know why not let me thrown something like really mainstream after all of that all right my reasonable prediction

18:46is if it does go ahead some games will be moved yeah i can see that i can see that that's quite a boring answer for me in

18:58Musa Okwonga: the grand scheme of things i think workup will start but i don't think we'll finish yeah i mean my reasonable prediction will be Spain will win it. Yeah, that's fair. There you go. How's that? Absolutely. What's yours again? Wild prediction, the World Cup will not finish and reasonable prediction Erling Haaland top scorer. That's it, yeah. Interesting. Alright, so mine is that the wild one will be that it will go ahead and the reasonable one will be that Spain win it. Yeah, love that. That's a year away though, so that's a long I actually think that people are already writing Germany off which means Germany are absolutely going to win the World Cup next year and have you seen Kai Havertz I know whoa whoa wow he's gone Gareth's good he's Gareth's good and really wholesome it's not often that like Thurston and his gum is wholesome but like his partner Thurston in the comments is adorable she's like oh yeah so wholesome bless her right there's another question yes this one's from Jules Delay Great name.

20:01What three teams are you most excited to see next year based on progress this year, style of play, and likely incomings? Bonus point if they are all from different countries or divisions.

20:13Musa Okwonga: This year?

20:23Musa Okwonga: I think Brighton, because Brighton went sideways this year. they kind of a lot of money last summer they went sideways this year but I think everyone's going to bed in now and I think they'll take the positives the best stuff and put their foot forward and they'll go for it Brighton I would say in the Premier League in Serie A I'm slightly worried about Atalanta actually I shouldn't say this it's a slightly sideways point I'm a bit worried about that Gasparini's gone I'm worried about the Gasparini transition to Juric Gasparini going to Roma is wild. It is. That's kind of interesting, actually.

21:03I've got to say. I'll let you have both of those as one if you like.

21:07Musa Okwonga: Is that okay? Yeah, of course. Yeah, I'm intrigued to see. So Gasparini to Roma and Juric to Atalanta. Yeah, that's interesting for me. And La Liga, I know it's boring. I know it's really, really boring. But I'm really interested to see what Xabi Alonso does at Real Madrid and how he unlocks some players in that squad. Primarily Camavinga. I know I've been bang that drum for a long time but I'm intrigued by that so yeah Brighton Atalanta Roma and Real Madrid mine are going to be so boring I'm going to go for Manchester United because genuinely intrigued to see what happens next season uh Amorim with a full pre-season no distractions they've already had Mateus Cunha coming in and looks like Brian Buemo is going to come in as well there will be some departures so genuinely interested I wouldn't say maybe I could say excited because I am excited to see how that works you know the other one is I mean this is all stuff that's happened since we well it kind of happened just before we did the last episode but we didn't talk about any football on the last one or this one but Christine Kivu are into Simone and Zaghi leaving Kivu obviously and a legend at that club.

22:23His first senior managerial position was at Parma this year, right? So he took over in January, February, kept them up, and now he's going to Inter. So it's just really wild. It's bold. It is bold, but maybe bold is what Inter needed. He worked his way up through the youth system at Inter as a coach. So it's bold in terms of a senior position, but how many great managerial careers have we seen have come through? They've come through the youth ranks somewhere else. They've coached the youth teams.

23:01Musa Okwonga: Yeah, totally. The other one is quite another boring one. It's Ten Hag at Leverkusen. They're kind of in that period where they're either going to solidify themselves as a top four team for a while, or they could start to yo-yo a bit, especially if they lose Vietz I can imagine Ten Hag trying to get a few of the old the old band back together over there you know I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised to see Garnaccio go there or Anthony or Anthony to be honest in some capacity so yeah I think they're my three Manchester United Inter and Labour Cousin which are really I know they're like very very very obvious but there's there's such big stuff going on there totally you know I could be super hipster and be like oh well Harz Fowler back and blah blah blah I know I know but still but these are the you could have been but I think everything you've highlighted they're so pivotal well like you've got the you know one of the biggest clubs in the world and the you know the second most successful club in England of all time who has you know been in the wilderness for a little bit but still somehow won trophies and now they're in a really really crucial interesting point in their in their history it's that big you have one of the grandest clubs in Italy yeah who have been to two Champions League finals in the last three years and their manager has like just walked.

24:21Then you have the second place team in Germany who won the unbeaten double just over a year ago and their young manager is like left to the biggest club in the world. There's a lot going on this season.

24:34Musa Okwonga: There's a lot. And can I say as well, with Simone and Zagia going to Al-Halal, it's so interesting. It's like a Frank Reichardt thing, isn't it? Of just European football with that intensity. It's like peace out. Like everyone assumes that the final arc for these managers is somewhere else in Europe, but how do you really top Inter? You can't really top Inter within Italy. You can't. You can only go to an equivalent size, but you can't really top it, right? And two Champions League finals in three years, you have nothing to prove to anybody. It's a real shame that the result was that, the 5-0.

25:06Musa Okwonga: But I think actually, I think history will be kinder to Simone and Zaghi. they'll be kinder to that inter team and they will look more at what psg achieved as opposed to what inter didn't uh and i think for what he's achieved in italian football with inter just extraordinary and and the people whose careers he's extended at the highest level right when mccatarian left manchester united and went to roma and there was some positive signs we didn't feel like he'd really be if you'd said that mccatarian if you told him when he was arriving at Roma, you will be a primary playmaker and a double-championing finalist.

25:45Musa Okwonga: He might not have believed you. But that's what Nzaghi did. And credit to every player involved in that incredible run they had. Yeah, for sure. We mentioned Garnaccio to Leverkusen there. We're not going to do that question now, but I just wanted to shout out Miele Manzanza, who just said, Garnaccio to Leverkusen 25-26, think it could work. Excellent shout. Now, if they keep, well, it depends if they keep the same tactical setup, but I think that he would thrive in it. But I think generally, I think Garnaccio in the German league, it's a high scoring league, a Bundesliga, getting him behind, I think would play to so many of his strengths.

26:21Musa Okwonga: He's charismatic. I think he'd be a fan favorite. I think they'd love him there. And I think he'd love it there too. So yeah, and that's a great, a great landing for him if he does do that. We've got a couple of questions on the same thing. So David Mischler says, I'm a Spurs supporter and that night in Bilbao was magical. followed by the parade that dented the pavement in North London. It was so intense, only to feel like that momentum and good vibes was extinguished by the sacking of Big Ang. I will support this man wherever he goes. Where would you like to see him land and how much money is an appropriate amount of money to spend on gear for his new squad?

26:56All the best, David in Amsterdam. And Anneliese Jesperson says, what club is the most suited to get on board the Ang train?

27:04Musa Okwonga: honestly I if Andrew isn't going to the Bundesliga I would I'd wait Milan oh I think Milan well that's really interesting because we did have a question about Milan really yeah but it was where is it oh it came from Henry Inc what are your personal opinions of Milan this season it hurts to see how it's panned out though not unexpected due to the upper management choices seeing the consequences of finishing ninth now with a lot of key players seemingly getting vultured or linked to moves away is bringing back banter era vibes of 10 plus years ago where do you think Milan will end up next season and how do you view the highs of Allegri, Tara and players being viewed to replace the ones that are leaving sorry for a lot of questions no I love that let me combine them so I know that Allegri has gone to Milan but I actually thought Ange was a better fit because I think what Milan need is a bit more fantasy.

28:01Musa Okwonga: They need to revigorate. You know, it's a bit like the job that Mourinho had to do at Inter, right? Now, Mourinho, Inter have a different tradition, the sort of grande Inter, and Mourinho restored that. I think Milan have to return to their identity, and that is primarily attacking, and Allegri doesn't offer that. I know he was there before. I know that he knows the terrain and all the rest of it, but the thing about Milan, and this is why Sergio Conceição did a very smart thing. He bounced because he knew that another season of the same would attach something quite negative to him. And I think his legacy built on defensive excellence at Porto.

28:38Musa Okwonga: I think he was going to lose that because I think at Milan, unfortunately, the current squad of players, the tone is set by the senior players and they don't deliver consistency week in, week out. A lot of those players in the Milan team are very good at being second or third in command in like an elite 11. But I don't think you'd count on any of them to be the main protagonist for an elite team. And I think, unfortunately, they've been relied on to be that. Like, you know, whether it's Pulisic, whether it's Liao, whether it's Teo Hernandez, they're not, I don't think, top of the table in terms of that person will lead you to glory in the domestic or the European.

29:20Musa Okwonga: The thing about Ange is I think he would get more out of those players already in terms of consistency because of the expansiveness of the attacking game he encourages. I think he'd allow them to play with greater freedom, but I think he'd also bring a lot of the pragmatism we saw in the Europa League final. I'm not wild about Allegri going there. Me neither. I didn't like it when he went back to Juve. And I think it feels a little bit weird when clubs of a certain look I think it's a bit different you look at what happened with Everton and Moyes right Everton were like struggling so hard and they just couldn't get it right and I think where they were at at the time it was perfect for someone like David Moyes to come in and it really worked and it reconnected everything I think in a way that they felt like they haven't been for a while and that's because they've gone through ownership changes and a lot of financial struggles points deductions you know like really really struggling Milan felt like they were over that like getting to where they A won the Scudetto but then also you know were back in the Champions League you're kind of thinking wow isn't this great this feels like a real vintage Serie A era now when you've got a lot of the big guys are back but Juve aren't running away with it anymore it feels as though a lot of people have fixed some of the issues that they had that really caused a lot of the the big clubs in Italy to just implode for a bit.

30:46On paper, they should have finished way above where they finished last season. Allegri seems like such a calculated move that I would be surprised if this wasn't one for the long term. But it's going to change how Milan play because they're going to, they're going to have to be way more pragmatic.

31:02Musa Okwonga: I don't know if that fits them. I don't think the makeup of that squad feels that way. I don't think so. I was thinking about this a little bit before we were recording and I was thinking that it wouldn't surprise me if the player profile at inter and milan switched and you actually started getting more of the vets right at milan yeah you see this so often with players managers who have come through the youth system at a club and then get the the senior men's job their their their willingness to just promote yeah youth yeah it was literally another legend who's who's finished in his current role this season immanal it's the whole thing about immanal right at Rettel Sociedad being the youth coach and then playing so much of this um like graduating so many of that squad that he coached at youth level into the first team squad and like they loved him and they knew him yes now I'm not entirely sure how what like this youth system inter looks like in terms of how much how healthy it is and how many people they've got coming through but inter need to generate some income yes they don't have a huge amount to spend and it would be it wouldn't surprise me if someone like allegory goes back to tried and tested seri arvets and maybe the more and the more kind of dynamic youthful profile of player ends up kind of coming in an inter built around like a core they'll keep some of the old heads for example but some of those guys who are 27 28 in that inter side are really experienced and therefore i think can carry some younger players coming through i think that's the first i think i think whoever they get i love the inter shout because anthony did a massive refresh right and in terms of the question about the rebuild for for Ange I feel vulgar throwing money around but I think three Ange getting three players let's just say whatever they cost three players that he can bring in and be like like he did with Vicaria at Spurs and Van de Ven and one other like Ange bring in three players uh and did he bring in Kulusevsky did he get him in as well no Kulusevsky and Ben Tankor came under Conte Kulusevsky they came in January do you remember who I love by the way yeah Kulusevsky actually I'm sorry Spurs fans I wouldn't want to pluck him away from anywhere but if Kulusevsky was to go anywhere I feel like there's a slight bit of unfinished business at at Milan I just think well in Serie A it would never happen stop it I don't want to be that guy but I think I just think I think that Ange to Milan is a better fit than Allegro at Milan because I think that Allegri will bring pragmatism, but I think what Milan need actually is not pragmatism.

33:51Musa Okwonga: They need a return to identity. They tried pragmatism with Concei Sal and it didn't quite fit. Like, if you want a pragmatic manager, they've already done that. And they need to be bold, actually. Which is why I really like the Kivu shout at Inter, by contrast. Yeah, I mean, it's very much... I love managerial appointments that make you go, ah, wow, okay. Look at Vince and Company. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Vince and Company, look, Look, we're not talking enough about that in terms of someone go, oh, the squad was stacked. Look, Kovac had a stacked squad at Bayern and they really struggled. It's not easy to run that ship.

34:29Musa Okwonga: It's not easy, even when you've been in the dressing room yourself at the club. So I think we don't give enough props there. But look, I'm always in favour of bold managerial appointments, particularly from coaches that are like forward thinking in how they view the game. I'm all over that.

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35:34Musa Okwonga: What's his deal? He went to Metro and got$450 in value on the new Samsung Galaxy A37 5G for free and no activation fees. Free phone? Oh, sign me up. Get that more for your money feeling only on Metro by T-Mobile. Free or number and activate$40 period plan. $450 based on device discount waived activation fee. Not available if with Metro or T-Mobile in the past 180 days.

35:59This one comes from Matthew Day. I've realized as a long-term listener, I don't know what to call myself. So what's the collective noun for a Stadio listener? Stadioite, Stadioista, Stadiohead, Sicko which is his, Matthew says, personal favourite Do you guys have any other suggestions for a collective term to call us all by? Sufferers

36:25Musa Okwonga: Sufferers Are you a Stadio sufferer?

36:31Musa Okwonga: It has to be It has to be What are we doing here? We're suffering The suffering is necessary The suffering, listen The anxiety exists the stadio motto if there was like you know like a a latin I don't speak latin so I don't but you know it'd be like the stadio crest and it'd just be like sufferum infinitum or something like you know like for those who've watched Andor there's um they have that kind of a password where it's like oh I have friends everywhere I feel like the stadio one should be like the suffering is necessary and the yeah that's the thing you open the door and someone's like password and you say the sufferer it's the greeting it's like may the force be with you and also with you someone says the suffering is necessary and the other person says and the anxiety exists and there you go you know that you were like that's it it's like John Wick in the Continental you go to the front desk and you say the suffering is necessary the anxiety exists here's your room right here the fire rises yeah that's I think a sufferer I think that's fair enough no that's too bleak no I think Stadio Ultra's fine Stadio Ultra's good yeah

37:47Musa Okwonga: you know what it is I just don't want it to be too grand Stadio Sufferer's fine but like not just Sufferer Stadio Sufferer yeah I just don't want it to be too grand you know Ultra's nice Ultra's really nice yeah I like that there you go yeah so there you go you've got a spiritual answer and an existential answer

38:12should we get out of here yeah let's do it not for long though not for long yeah exactly before we go just a quick word on your eye Rennie sadly passed away this week age 65 legendary trailblazing Premier League referee

38:24Musa Okwonga: we owe Rennie such a debt honestly like what he did what he endured what he meant great referee as well obviously had to be had to be really

38:38Musa Okwonga: just like a referee being the focus of so much rage throughout of them to carry that and you know like representation of black people in football given how many footballers there are and given how few we see executive level still i mean the numbers are like absolutely wild they're shocking in terms of drop off that you can't help but think that a lot of those people are being barred from opportunities still and he came through it and was such if you look at the response to his death like universal acclaim universal acclaim which says all just thinking of his family his loved ones and everyone that he inspired yeah very special all right man so that's it yes that's it five years on the ringer indeed don't forget you don't you don't have to go anywhere yes same feed we'll pop back on in a few weeks after we've had a little break and we'll give you all an update.

39:31Thanks again to The Ringer. Yes, yes. And I suppose we'll leave you with some music. We will, as ever. Don't forget, just check the Stadio out, just play this on Spotify. Speaking of which, we are playing out on Gerald Mitchell, track called It's the Future. Oh my God, how fitting. Anything you would like to add, Musa or Gwanga?

39:53Musa Okwonga: Migration is the future. I'm rims at the wheel.

40:01hi everyone much love have a have a great couple of weeks or so few weeks hope the weather's nice for you and uh stay safe stay well and uh we will see you back on this feed very soon see you then

40:29Thank you.

40:59Thank you.

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