


4 May 2026 · 1h 5m · 30 chapters

The Stadio Podcast episode is a late-season football roundup covering European and domestic competitions. In the Women’s Champions League, Lyon beat Arsenal 2-1 on the night (after a 2-1 deficit) to reach the final against Barcelona in Oslo.
Arsenal mishandled the “tyranny” of a 2-1 lead and couldn’t manage Lyon’s early intensity; a penalty for Lyon (Lotte Wubben-Moy) swung momentum; Brandt’s decisive contributions and Lyon’s relentless first-half pressure were pivotal.
Arsenal’s offside chance early; Diani’s back-post finish; Bonmati’s return from injury for Barcelona vs Bayern.
In Serie A, Inter won their 21st Scudetto, beating Parma 2-0.
Christian Kivu’s debut season management overcame Champions League disappointment; Inter’s midfield transition and goal output (30 more than Napoli) mattered; Mkhitaryan’s clinching goal was a fitting end.
In the Premier League, Manchester United secured top four by beating Liverpool 3-2 (after 2-2), using midfield overloads and fast first touches; Spurs beat Aston Villa 2-1; Portugal: Porto won the league despite Benfica’s unbeaten record.
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Analyzing Manchester United's surprising performance this season.
“Manchester United joined an illustrious club this weekend.”
Discussing Champions League shows and upcoming events for fans.
“If you want to share your photos, tag us, StadioFootball on Instagram in your merch photos.”
Deep dive into the Women's Champions League semis, focusing on Arsenal and Lyon.
“Yeah, let's begin with Lyon because Lyon had the bigger job to do coming back from a 2-1 deficit.”
Analyzing the tactics and key moments in the semi-final match between Barcelona and Bayern.
“and a real shame for Arsenal because there was a part of me who was thinking maybe gave themselves in the league a little bit too much to do.”
Previewing the upcoming final between Lyon and Barcelona in the Champions League.
“I'm envious of everyone involved in that.”
Discussing Inter's recent Scudetto victory and their season under Christian Kivu.
“That's TravelBelize.org Your closest far away paradise Alright man, shall we go to Serie A?”
Explore Christian Kivu's management style and how he led Inter to victory.
“I think this has been a pretty impressive debut campaign as manager from Christian Kivu.”
Discuss Venezia's remarkable performance and their promotion prospects.
“Yeah, just impressed with his whole manner.”
Learn about Porto winning the league despite Benfica's unbeaten run.
Examine UEFA's handling of player conduct and Mourinho's implications.
“In the current political context, you know, there's not a hierarchy of rights, but there is a hierarchy of solidarity, I think at this point, unfortunately.”
Analyze Real Madrid's performance and potential coaching changes.
“Do you think I'll do it for Arbeloa if he loses that game?”
Discussion on Atletico's unexpected lineup and recent victories.
“Sorry, Atletico basically played with a lineup that I've never seen before.”
Preview of the upcoming Sevilla vs Real Sociedad match and its importance.
“for Sevilla that's La Liga I was going to segue using the Cacto Desiarros which man man.”
Exploration of the unique style of German football commentary and anecdotes.
Discussion on Haaland's character and how it fits into his playing style.
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Analysis of Manchester United's crucial victory against Liverpool.
“no Cacto de Jairus nominee in Osasuna Barca but I think there was one at Old Trafford really?”
Discussion on the tactical strategy employed by Manchester United against Liverpool.
“And given they did this against City and now against Liverpool, it's something that they are doing, right?”
Highlighting the notable young talents in Manchester United's lineup.
“I didn't think deep-lying Manu was his final destination.”
Analysis of the difficulties faced by Liverpool throughout the current season.
“I don't think Ahmad is in the first choice front four, and that's fine.”
Discussion on Liverpool's injury problems and the implications for the team.
“And I say all this and Liverpool fans might be thinking, well, what about us?”
Speculation on the future of Liverpool's management and player roster.
Discussion on Liverpool's performance this season and the implications for the manager's future.
“I think I really sympathise with Liverpool fans because I know it's not been a fun season by any means.”
Breakdown of Tottenham's recent win against Aston Villa and their improved play under a new coach.
“Okay, we'll have to talk about Spurs beating Villa 2-1.”
Examining Bournemouth's unbeaten run and discussing the potential impact of their new manager.
“West Ham took a step backwards, defeated by Brentford.”
Analysis of Arsenal's 3-0 victory over Fulham and key player performances in the match.
“We should talk probably about the league leaders this far into the show.”
Discussion on Arsenal's midfield performance and player contributions.
“That's where he really can pull the strings and I thought you saw this in this game.”
Analysis of Arsenal's attacking options and goals for the season.
“And it was just really nice having a routine win.”
Overview of Bundesliga standings, focusing on St. Pauli's relegation battle.
“Pauli lost 2-1 at home to Mainz and it meant that they dropped into the automatic relegation spots because of Wolfsburg's one-all draw away at Freiburg last night.”
Discussion on Bayern Munich's recent performances and league position.
“Top Premier League sides have missed a huge amount of players.”
Insight into promotion races and notable matches in the Zweiter Bundesliga.
“how quickly Bayern can go from being, I mean, we've seen it recently, right, from the side that could have lost the league to Dortmund on the final game of the season.”

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1:47hello and welcome back to the stadio podcast i'm musa kwanga i'm ryan hun Ryan, how are you doing?
1:52Ryan Hunn: You alright, thanks man, how are you? Very well. Do you know what? I'm great. I'm going to win the Champions League. I bet you're great. Manchester United joined an illustrious club this weekend. Do you know what club that was? The first team ever to win the Champions League, even though they weren't in the tournament the same season. They are now the third team in the Premier League to have won more games than they have not won this season. Absolutely wild, this league. Only three teams They joined Arsenal And Manchester City As the three teams Who have won more games Than they have not won In the Premier League This season You know If you look at Manchester United's If you look at them In the league table Their like Profile looks like They're in the Zweite Bundesliga It does It does Look Because Goals for 63 against 48 That's like something Out of the championship That's something You know those like Really really tight Like logjam divisions where there's like five points between second bottom St.
2:52Manchester United at Elversburg well yeah kind of yeah we are we've got Elversburg energy
2:57Ryan Hunn: we have not like what what energy do you share with Elversburg we are plucky underdogs plucky underdogs alright well on that note I hope everyone else is staying safe and well and you don't have to do a podcast with this guy and a quick bit of admin two Champions League shows this week after each semi-final second leg if you want to listen to them go to patreon.com forward slash stadio you get all the podcasts ad free in full and if you want to sign up for the stadio social club you also get access to the stadio social club discord which includes live hangouts and other perks as well including merch discount lots of stuff on the horizon on the merch thing but if you did order merch on the previous pre-order, it should be arriving so keep an eye out for it.
3:47Ryan Hunn: If you want to share your photos, tag us, StadioFootball on Instagram in your merch photos. Other bits of admin, Southbank Centre live show the Thursday after the World Cup final in the summer. We're going to be joined by Nish Kumar and if you want to go and buy tickets, link is in the description. It's the rescheduled live show from March and we're very excited about it. And kickbacksoccer.com Don't forget to check Kickback Soccer I was on Kickback Committee with Susanna Fuller last week it was really fun Moosa's going to be on I think soon yes tonight oh tonight nice and a piece going on their newsletter as well from Moosa and keep an eye out for social some stuff that we're doing for them as well so shouts to Kickback Soccer go check them out link in the description and that is all the admin so today we've got quite a lot to get through today and it's going to be quite round-uppy yep it's the business end of the season man it is I reckon we begin with the Women's Champions League semi-final second legs took place over the weekend And Barcelona will face Lyon in the final in Oslo.
4:46Ryan Hunn: Lyon beating Arsenal on Saturday. Barcelona beating Bayern on Sunday. Should we begin with Lyon? Yeah, let's begin with Lyon because Lyon had the bigger job to do coming back from a 2-1 deficit. This first half felt wild. It was the intensity. Lyon just came out and hit them hard. And I think, you know what? I wonder if when Arsenal look back at this, and this is first of all, congratulations to Lyon, because they flew out at Arsenal. And I sometimes wonder if, because Arsenal actually came from behind in the corresponding fixture last year, there's something about the tyranny of a 2-1 lead going into the second leg because you don't quite know how to approach it.
5:25If you go for it full on... Is 2-1 the new 2-0? Yes, because you leave yourself open. And I think Arsenal weren't entirely sure how to navigate this lead. It was my concern actually going into this fixture. as we said I think before Lyon were not going to make the kind of mistakes they made in the first day defensively they tightened up and they just looked relentless for that crucial first half hour when Arsenal couldn't get any kind of right rhythm couldn't play out with consistent confidence and Lyon swarmed them
5:55Ryan Hunn: I think Lota Wubamoy was unlucky on the penalty because at first I couldn't see it was a foul it was a foul on the replay but it was you know when I saw it in real time I thought ah this looks like trouble I just thought the kind of the angle she came across. Yeah, at first, well, at first I thought just the way the ball moved, it looked like Lotto had kicked it onto the foot, so I thought it was fine. I've got to say, though, I kind of say, I felt gutted because the season, like, the momentum that she's built this season and the command she's taken, I was just like, man, I was gutted. I was gutted.
6:28Yeah, but I think
6:28Ryan Hunn: that was just one of those that is a, I don't even really think that's an error. That's just a, that's just something that happens when Arsenal start the way that they did and Lyon had such momentum that something like that is going to inevitably break. It's like a pressure point and could have been anywhere across that back line. I think that one of the things that Arsenal stopped doing or failed to stop Lyon doing was just to get into positions where they could turn them around. I think that was where the penalty comes from really. Just that opening blitz and just being turned around and that was going to happen.
7:04Ryan Hunn: Didn't they have the ball in the back of the net at one point? yeah offside before that as well so that pressure was just building yeah man I mean the Diani finish at the back post for the second was really really good when when the ball goes in from that when it goes in from that steep I always think to myself is the coverage as good as it can be um and I think this was the thing it's a great finish though yeah it was but the goals were I think watching Arsenal get moved around like they did and even after they got back into the game I was concerned because I thought, yeah, the back end, that's fantastic.
7:36Great resilience to come back. But I was concerned about the ability to manage the game. And Brandt, again, popping up at either end of the fixture with the crucial blow. I mean, Brandt, a player who obviously has been lighting up since the Hoffenheim days. But I must admit, I expected a bit more from her mid-career. But this is, I suppose she's still so young, but with what she's doing now. She's still 23, which is wild. Right, right. Right. But also exactly considering how she flew out and has been, I think for me, just the four and running talent. And this goal is decisiveness. Of course, the goal in this leg gone to the goal, the first leg as well.
8:12Just such a decisive play at the top level. And I feel like Arsenal can't have the biggest complaints about this because they just failed to manage the fixture. They failed to manage it. Like even when they got the goal back, I was like, I didn't feel they were in control.
8:25Ryan Hunn: No, I agree. Yeah. And that was my concern really. But yeah, Leon worthy winners. and a real shame for Arsenal because there was a part of me who was thinking maybe gave themselves in the league a little bit too much to do. I've mentioned this before. Obviously, City flew out to that start. But slightly shorthanded from a season where I feel it's slightly below par for them. Like, because I have that much regard for their talent and what they have, there's got to be a little bit of frustration they couldn't get the job done in the second leg. I feel like they could have been good value to get to this final actually and they match up well with Barcelona as well this is the thing, they match up well with them Yeah, I still think that when you get to a Champions League semi-final it's so tough I'm sorry, the comparison between the first leg and the second leg in the Barcelona-Bian tie 5-3 on aggregate in the end to Barcelona after a 4-2 win at Camp Nou and the first leg much tighter, second leg I do wonder actually, watching this leg or this tie I do wonder if Arsenal maybe if they could have a do-over they would have actually gone a bit more chaos from the beginning and kind of fought chaos with chaos I agree like you said being in that 2-1 I think the thing about this tie was that both teams needed to score so when Barcelona take the lead it doesn't really change anything for Bayern because they didn't have anything to hold anyway they had to score and so Dalman getting the equaliser so soon after just meant that it was kind of like alright okay we can score whereas I think the Arsenal goal comes so much so late in the game comparatively that's the thing that stops them I mean Barcelona were brilliant like really really good and yet Bayern still scored two against them in Camp Nou Well there's a funny thing about this because the first goal that Bayern get they get it back quite soon after the the Barca opener great finish in Palo Alto Graham had some of the great ball in for the assist that goes in but I didn't feel again this was going to be a steamroller for Barca immediately just because they were playing so open but that's the thing Barca backed themselves and the finish from Pateas is brilliant it's low-key brilliant because it's not that everyone's panicking but everyone's chaotic and she is the coolest head the finish actually there's no need to actually hammer this just strokes in the corner sees a gap and it's like okay there's a ton of a mess here I'm going to benefit from it and puts it in the one gap where like no one can no one can see it until it's too late but actually credit to Bayern because they held out pretty well still took them a little bit of a while took them until just about the hour mark for Pyle to score again a brilliant finish and Poteas' second two finishes where almost anybody else in the world hits those harder but the awareness to understand exactly to feather that finish to know exactly where the keeper is where the defender is everything it was some real like this is craft this is like penalty box craft at the highest level it's incredible yeah shouts to Aitana Bonmati because when you thought things couldn't get any better for Barcelona back comes Bonmati after a long injury absence almost what has she been five six months out nearly she came on the second half and amazing to see her back unless you're an opposition defender or midfielder for that matter and but yeah that's very timely for Barca Yeah, totally.
11:54Ryan Hunn: So we're going to have Lyon Barcelona in the final in Oslo. A classic matchup. Great location too. I'm envious. I'm envious of everyone involved in that. Barcelona's revenge mission is on. Well, Lyon have shown you have to go at them early. It's the only way. It's just the only way. Press high up and pray to the gods. This is their sixth straight Champions League final. It's their seventh in eight. That is some record. Well, they're not the greatest team of this generation, the greatest team of two generations. I know. We've got a repeat of the 23-24 final well, the 24 final the 22 final and the 2019 final.
12:37The infrastructure, what they've built there, their ability to absorb new players into their style of playing. You know, Paraluelo, she came on their radar when she scored that banger against them and they brought her in and now she's like looks like she's come through the academy. unbelievable like all of it and and the quality the core it's and there's no sign of it ending either no sign of it ending atlanta imagine trading traffic for turquoise waters and turning your next long weekend into an unforgettable adventure in belize you can soar through lush rainforest explore ancient maya temples or just unwind on a caribbean beach that feels like your own secret escape and getting there is easier than ever.
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13:37Ryan Hunn: Alright man, shall we go to Serie A? Let's do it Inter have won their 21st Scudetto after beating Parma 2-0 at San Siro on Sunday night Marcus Trams going against his hometown club which I find a nice interesting fact that isn't it? Yeah yeah. Regaining the Serie A title after Napoli won it last season. I think this has been a pretty impressive debut campaign as manager from Christian Kivu. I know we talked about the disappointment of the Champions League with their exit to Bode Glimps but I think this is going to be one of those seasons where this reminds me a little bit and I know it's very very different because Ajax are a historic giant but it reminds me a little bit of just when everyone kept getting knocked out by Ajax you know yeah yeah um Bode Glimp just struck on something this season that was so impressive that I feel numerous teams could have been I mean numerous teams did get undone by Bode Glimp in the campaign including Manchester City remember yeah totally totally but their league form has been really impressive in a league where many people broke out to a potential early challenge totally I mean don't get me wrong with Napoli always the asterisk over the injuries um but if you throughout the season crucial injuries at key times and they've looked good when the players have been back but they just haven't been back enough but I think the fact that into to your point they've scored 30 goals more than than Napoli that's wild I mean that's you see that stuff like that when you look actually the league has always been you know we were saying before about like you know Arsenal were never really in control against Leon in that fixture I think no one else was really ever in control like Inter always had more and again credit to Kivu because that's not the easiest job there's a lot of moving parts there you've got the um the national team not in the best place Italian football as a whole there's a chaos a general chaos around it um the Inter midfield is aging out there's a replacement job to be done so what Kivu has done is really got the very best out of of players that might be struggling maybe for motivation for fitness for conditioning and to have there's nothing more fitting than mccatarian scoring the goal that clinches it all because that is a plan yeah with visible kinesio tape on his back i mean just like this just felt like felt like the latter days of my playing career it's always the knees isn't it being patched up just to get out there but like yeah i i love that for him i love what he's brought to this other players to shout out in this a player like Zielinski who's just been outstanding a big move for him yeah incredible yeah just someone who maybe goes under the radar a little bit in terms of the you know maybe like the showpiece players in that in that side yeah he feels like such a midfielder's midfielder knits it all together I mean any he would grace any squad yeah he popped up with some really important goals this season like his actual highlight reel of goals would be even though that you know he's not exactly like a goal machine but he scored some brilliant goals.
16:37But he's absolutely bangers only.
16:40Ryan Hunn: Yeah, yeah. To the Uri Tielemans, the Uri Tielemans rule. Yes. Bangers only. Only scores bangers. Yeah. Absolutely love it. I think we might have to change it to the Zielinski rule. I like that. I like that. But yeah, really, really happy for him and they brought in, they've got some fun new players in there like Sujic, a player that I loved obviously. He's going to be amazing. In the Champions League yeah, technically just a marvel. Absolutely marvel. Esposito, um, I guess, the young hope of the Inter team. And I think the Inter team and the Italy team, there's something that Kivu's doing, which is he's managing a transition, the next era of Inter.
17:17There was a lot of talk, a lot of laughs about them when they went out and like, oh, were they really that good? Were they catfishing us in the Champions League? No, not at all. It's just a very good team at the end of a particular cycle. But, and this is credit to Kivu, they remain a really attractive destination. They're a place where, if you're a young midfielder, I've said this maybe a few times now, if you're a young midfielder looking to make a really big name for yourself, get your agent on the phone to Kivu because he's building the next great inter team and you want to be part of it. And there's enough pieces there, I think for continuity, for them to be a contender again at European level.
17:48I think he's that good actually as a coach Kivu. Really impressed by him.
17:51Ryan Hunn: Yeah, just impressed with his whole manner. Yeah, absolutely. Even during the final whistle, like none of that thing about, one thing you always point out is coaches that milk it and coaches that don't. And he is absolutely in the latter camp. He's very much in the Hansi Flick, convincing company i don't know if this is a new trend i don't think i think it's just them i think you know company and kivu in this deferential manner of his players first coach for coach i think i think it's coach for coach but i would say it is a um it is the more effective approach in the long run and i can put karak in that category too who knows what his ceiling is but i think it's pretty clear that his his floor is pretty high um but yeah congratulations to kivu in the inter-camp because they've just they've got the job done.
18:39And it's easy after a disappointment like in the Champions League to kind of slip a bit. It's very easy to do that. Staying in Italy.
18:45Ryan Hunn: Yes. Venezia went up. They drew two all the way at Spezia which was a wild game of football. Such a chaotic game. Spezia were down the bottom of fighting for their survival. Perfectionist in that sense, yeah. Yeah, and this basically meant that they're down during this game. They needed to win to have a chance of staying up. Yeah, 2-0 up Venezia after early opening goal for Yoboro and then one with about 20 minutes to go from Sagrado and then three minutes later Velotti scores for Spezia and then they equalise on the 90th minute. Bandinelli got sent off for Spezia at the end of the first half.
19:25Ryan Hunn: There was also a save penalty from Yoboro. This felt a little bit like justice because this was one of those handball penalties that I think the players He's got a blast at him, blasted at him from about a yard away. A quick shout for John Yeboah because I don't know if we've ever seen a bigger glow up for a forward like this. So he got 1-33 last year for Venezia and this year he's got 12-35. One assist last year, nine assists this year. And has looked spectacular. Each game I've checked him out in for them. He's been absolutely running hot. So huge, huge credit to him for turning everything around.
20:03and make himself maybe like consistently the most dangerous attacker uh him on Svoboda either end of the pitch have been outstanding they've been absolutely lights out all year just use his full name
20:14Ryan Hunn: if you're gonna Wolfsburg legend John Yababa Wolfsburg legend okay I'll do it I'll do it yeah huge credit to them yeah and they've been like you know since kind of the turn of the year like so so impressive and they've had to be because Frozenona and Monza have been right there right there that league's tough man really tough like if you look at the other end of the table it's kind of wild when you see some of the teams that are down there as well when you look at like Samp mid-table but we're down we're you know you're kind of flirting with that at one point you've got Spezia down there who've been in the in the top flight Bari who are like Bari man you know Padova down there you've got like teams who have been even Empoli even Empoli about three years ago Empoli was a horrible fixture for anyone in Serie A yeah yeah and now they're struggling and then at the top of the league you've got teams like Palermo as well who are part of the City group.
21:05Ryan Hunn: So it's... Yeah, there and thereabouts. I think it looks like Frosinone are just about safe actually. I mean, with that goal difference, like even if they lose the last game, like ones aren't catching them. So it looks like Vinetsi and Frosinone coming up. Yep. I mean, so Vinetsi have got Palermo on Friday night at the pen. So for the final game. Have to win to get the league to make sure of it. Yeah. indeed but congrats to Venezia and everyone there at the club and very excited to see them back in Serie A for I think it's one final season at the Penso before they move to the new stadium on the mainland so you'll hopefully be there as well hopefully be there and we'll be covering I think a lot more of Venezia in their final season at the Penso right before we go to the Premier League quick shout Porto won the league in Portugal despite this is the weirdest this is going to be the weirdest quiz stat in the future Benfica is still unbeaten in the league this season and but have drawn 10 games and Porto have won the league so can you imagine sorry I know this is about Porto, congratulations to Porto yes absolutely a very very very impressive title title campaign, league campaign but we're recording this ahead of Sporting's game against Vittoria Sporting win, they actually go above Benfica so Benfica could in theory go the season unbeaten and not even qualify for a Champions League qualification this is why I don't want Benfica to before all these things what I do want the moment is it specifically Jose Mourinho it's specifically him the moment the season ends unbeaten he gets a WhatsApp message from an unknown number and it's Wenger going Invincibles forever together welcome to the gang yeah oh Invincibles that'll be the quickest WhatsApp group he ever leaves
23:00Ryan Hunn: on Benfica quickly we didn't really touch on it because it happened yeah yeah yeah like in an in-between day but Prestiani got charged and found guilty of homophobic abuse by UEFA it sounds look I think it's absurd so that's the testimony that he gave and they believe well I think I think it was easy I think look I'm gonna sound really cynical here But I think that that charge allows it, that verdict allows it to be put to bed a lot quicker because unfortunately we're in such a world where a lot fewer people will ride for like queer rights. In the current political context, you know, there's not a hierarchy of rights, but there is a hierarchy of solidarity, I think at this point, unfortunately.
23:52And I think it was just like, yeah, oh, I just said like, whatever. anti-gay insult. It can be dismissed more easily as banter in the current social-political context. Unfortunately, I think it can be. And I think that they were like, if we do it this way, we can swerve the bigger questions about race and Vinicius in that whole conversation. No one comes out looking good from this. And Mourinho, and there's talk about Mourinho being linked with, you know, reputable sources are linking Mourinho with the Real Madrid job, which to me just looks like it looks like that if you make that appointment and Perez has many things but he's not it's not impulsive, he's calculating right, like if Perez makes that move, it's because he wants to move people on in that dressing room and he knows that Mourinho's going to go in there and basically like weed people out for him I think that's what that is, that sounds super cynical, but you don't make an appointment like that unless you want Mourinho to fall out with a bunch of people who you want to move on um there was on a happier note there's conversations about tony crow's getting involved uh in some kind of coaching capacity coaching role so that's interesting um so i'm interested to see what balance crows brings to the uh the chaotic force
25:13Ryan Hunn: we shall see tony crow's being like look i remember when zidane rocked up here and was better than all of us in training so now it's my turn i mean maybe i mean well i will just say this I would just say that with Madrid in a turbulent place there's a couple of good bargains in that squad to be picked up by enterprising clubs there is some real quality at Madrid and there's a couple of footballers that could do with another home Dude if I was a Premier League club I would be all in I know I was going to go there later but considering we're there just a quick shout out Real Madrid beating Espanyol 2-0 on the way on the weekend Barcelona beat Osasuna 2-1 the day before and it means that Barcelona can win the title by winning the Clasico.
25:56Ryan Hunn: It's just like... Awful, awful. Do you think I'll do it for Arbeloa if he loses that game? I think he's already on the way out. Because it happened to Jabby. I mean, if Jabby Alonso can get fired after losing a Spanish Super Cup Copper... Sorry, Spanish Super Cup Clasico, then surely you can get fired for losing a Clasico that's also clinched Barcelona the title. I think Arpela is on his way out already unfortunately I mean just a weird season I think from a Real Madrid point of view and not super surprising but quite weird two good goals from Vinicius Junior brilliant goals yeah the second in particular he caught that so clean him and Bellingham looked quite sharp actually really really sharp I have to say and we unlike last season I think it was last season we were we weren't treated to a CAC tour we were not in the Osasuda Barcelona game much like but I would like to use this as a segue because I do think oh actually no before we can I just shout out the Betis Oviedo game you didn't have to see this by any chance did you no sadly not no no no amazing thing happened for Betis' second goal where you know when people think they get fouled and they fall on the ball yes I can't remember who the Oviedo midfielder was they fell on the ball and grabbed it and then someone just kind of tackled him got the ball out of the hands and the referee just waved play on he just played advantage because he was going to give the handball and it was just the most amazingly funny scene where this guy thinks he's got fouled he's jumped he's gone on the ball held it and then someone's actually just kicked it out of his hands and the ref's like yeah go on then it was so good it reminds me was it a school when someone was running and they fell over it was either some endurance someone's running and they fell over and they did like a forward role and carried on going.
27:51Oh, gangster. The sheer momentum of destiny carrying them forward.
27:58Ryan Hunn: Gangster. Sorry, Atletico basically played with a lineup that I've never seen before. Still won. I'm like, hang on a minute. Who are these guys? Play the kids and still win. Yeah, they beat Valencia 2 another way. At first I saw, oh, Llorente scored. That's weird. Marcus Llorente? no 18 year old Miguel Llorente grandson oh Marcus Llorente's grandson other than that 2-0 win sorry 4-2 win for Athletic Club against Alaves we're recording this ahead of a big game today Sevilla Real Sociedad Real Sociedad returning to Seville a couple of weeks after their Copa del Rey victory that's a big game for Sevilla that's La Liga I was going to segue using the Cacto Desiarros which man man.
28:48Ryan Hunn: I might go, every now and then I fire up the DAZN, Osasuna, Barcelona highlights of that. Just to live a little. Sorry, but that's his own cacture. That's for our cacture. The fact that he apologized. I actually played that. I know, and he kept laughing. I played that to a friend actually, because I was like, this is like how considerate these comms are. German comms is actually really interesting because it's one of the few, they tend to go into these sites of anecdotes they'll talk about a player they'll go and like talk about a player for like three four minutes and i start telling stories about me oh back to the game like they'll be they'll do that it's so funny they really will wander off on on tangents but there's always a point to it that's the thing so they went they went um i think it was when um atleta were playing man city and they kept pulling greelish's hair and they went off this kind of soliloquy about like you know actually well you know what do you represent and why are they doing okay now back to the football it's quite cool what was the what was the Haaland one that time oh was there a Haaland one Der Brecher mit dem babyface oh no when he was at Dortmund that was wild that the break like it's basically like the breaker or like the tough guy with the babyface was that the yeah like the was it Solskjaer the babyface assassin yeah because he has got he has got quite a sort of babyface Haaland there's a menace to it now though yeah he looks like sometimes he looks like when he pulls these little faces to cameras you know when he did the stare down the camera after the Arsenal game yeah he kind of looks like you know like a schoolboy villain in a Pixar movie no totally I think he's leaning into that as well yeah no I to be honest I think and I think he should he should lean into it yeah yeah Atlanta imagine trading traffic for turquoise waters and turning your next long weekend into an unforgettable adventure in Belize You can soar through lush rainforests, explore ancient Maya temples, or just unwind on a Caribbean beach that feels like your own secret escape.
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31:06Ryan Hunn: This is the worst segue of all time because it's taken me five and a half minutes. but I was going to say no Cacto de Jairus nominee in Osasuna Barca but I think there was one at Old Trafford really? what the Kunio one? no the Sestro one? there's a lot of like I've got it I'm on the floor I'm going to get so funny are we going to that game we're going to like Manchester United Liverpool should we start there or do you want to save that and keep my segue going for 15 minutes nah let's go for it Manchester United 3 Liverpool 2 Moose's time Manchester United were third going into this uh Liverpool fourth in the Premier League and if United won this they would if Manchester United won this they would claim Champions League place and they did it and they had to do it twice because they were two all up and then were back to two all and persevered three two and I thought
32:01obviously like you know United it's a great win for United in a um in a derby basically and it felt like the thing that's surprising about United's performance is their ability to get teams as open as they do against them. And given they did this against City and now against Liverpool, it's something that they are doing, right? So, Carrick says something quite interesting. He said, we knew they would overload the midfield, right? And I think that was also the City approach too, overload the midfield against United. So United were then, okay, we're going to vacate it and stretch them. If they're going to go and pack the midfield, we're going to be everywhere else.
32:39And that, I think, matched up perfectly against City and matched up perfectly against Liverpool in this game because they just had no answer for it. And I think, and I think I said this in the chat before, in the Discord,
32:54the thing I like about this United team is that they trust the first touches of their players because the margin for error with some of these passes, the speed they're hammering the ball into feet and the angle and the depth of these passes, it really is like, it's old school United, like late 90s, which is actually obviously prior to Carrick's era, of hammer the ball into feet, stretch the pitch, and then all of a sudden you've got one-on-ones in wide areas. And Mbumo, the thing I love about him is not only his ability to finish on a counter, and you saw him actually being missed when he got taken off in that context, but his ability to playmake from deep.
33:30This guy thinks nothing. To be honest,
33:32Ryan Hunn: sorry to cut in, but I think he's set-piece delivery as well. I think he's actually really good for in swinging corners from the right hand side I think he's very handy I think this is a good example of Liverpool having so much of the ball but United getting exactly what they wanted in terms of they got all the ball they wanted I mean the entire game they had 37 % possession xG 2.34 to 0.88 like and even when they went to 2-all I still felt they're probably going to score again um the main who got was great I thought Kobi Mainu I mean throughout good finish and yeah great finish to cap another superb performance a superb performance uh they're really good to miss Casemiro nothing new there but actually funny enough I think a player that drives on I mean we joke about Kamavinga but a player like that is actually the perfect profile I think because Mainu has done so well in the deep lying role and I gotta I gotta hand it to him I didn't think deep-lying Manu was his final destination.
34:36Ryan Hunn: I think we have said this at points, like Manu and Casemiro as a two, providing more solidity for someone like Bruno Fernandes to roam more would be, is a way that you could get, this is where Manu wasn't getting in the side. I think this is the way that we said we could get Manu into the side. The problem was the system that Ruben Amarin wanted to play meant that you either had Finanje as one of those 10s or you had him playing in a deeper role, which to be honest, I know that form-wise maybe or numbers-wise it didn't look great. But I didn't hate Bruno Finanje playing deeper in the midfield.
35:18Ryan Hunn: I just think that what's happened is the contrast between that and what you're getting out of him now is so, so big that it makes any decision that Amarin made at that time, personnel-wise, it makes it look even worse than it probably was, right? The energy that he plays with when he doesn't have to worry too much about what's behind him, or the spaces that he leaves behind, 100 mile an hour. And I think what I love about this is everyone has a similar in that forward line, right? And I can say this now and it's not often I get to give credit to Manchester United's recruitment team and I'm glad to do it.
35:59Seshko, as he's emerging, Kunya, Mbumo, Abunifinanch is a Champions League level attack. It just is. 100 % is. But it wasn't totally. And also, there were question marks about, you know, Kunya has been outperforming XG for a long time. And Mbumo as well, like they've been running hot for a while. Can they deliver like these raised expectations? Seshko, uncertain start. But there's a lot of good reasons why that was the case. but his touch Seshko the variety of finishes even the cactour the guy can score a cactour the guy can score a banger oh by the way it was just because he tried to do that thing
36:35Ryan Hunn: and then he was on the deck at one point and the ball goes out again and then it comes back in again the keeper punches it off him and it goes in it was just a bit like and then he was on the deck again but you can see it was all very funny you can see why Arsenal went so hard after this guy in the summer yeah yeah the quality is there the technique the finishing the range and the confidence is coming now and that I think I think that is Carrick's first choice front four. I don't think Ahmad is in the first choice front four, and that's fine. It's not a judgment. I think he's a great player to rotate in and out.
37:04But that front four, they all work hard. This is the thing I love about them. They press when out of possession. They've had to be in teams that have been like, you know, I mean, Bruno's been chasing shadows for much of his United career. Seshko from RB Leipzig is desperate to impress and is looking every bit apart, has the presence, has the aura of a centre forward. And that team, what I love about them all, that front four, they all create their own shots. They all create their own shots. That's the thing. They're all like enterprising enough to go and make it happen. And Konya, of course, you've seen him the last few weeks come into his own.
37:40So yeah, full credit to them. And look, and also while we're just complimenting them, Aidan Heaven for Manchester United is emerging as a superb player. And I say all this and Liverpool fans might be thinking, well, what about us? well actually interesting there so there's going to be chemistry issues for Liverpool throughout I mean have you seen that injury list Curtis Jones at right back
38:03Ryan Hunn: in terms of first team players or first team and bench or replacements Alisson Mamanasharili Conor Bradley Leone Endo Izak Ekotike Salah I was worried about for Liverpool Canardes had a you know he's not had the best season I think it's fair to say he's had a forgettable season there was a moment when he shoved Sesko into to the advertising didn't like this at all I saw that I thought apart from it being just a bad foul I thought that's a player out of his rhythm he's still got 87 minutes not a ton of depth there not a ton of depth and look again Curtis Jones at right back again a player I love that's an indictment on the failure to really integrate Frimpong and German comms actually went in a bit of a well I don't think it is I just think they needed I don't think that's an indictment personally sorry to cut in but I think they needed Frimpong for the forward just because they didn't have anything else to play wide up front yeah but then again I think to be a bit more critical to be harsh here Frimpong was meant to be able to do it all actually and I think this is the thing I think if you've got a player I love right but I think a player like that as an attacking fullback who's overlapping I just think if you look at what Liverpool and the guys at the best than comms he said if you look at the investments they made this summer and where they are now and we know they've had all these other challenges it's really just such a forgettable season I mean they're still fourth which is great by the way by the way let me just say like and I want I would love Arnish lot to stay I just don't know if it happens I think he is by the sounds of it I hope so I hope so I hope so and I hope people you know you've said this before I hope they can kind of just chalk this year off because you're still fourth in the Premier League there's a lot that needs to be done that midfield just in terms of some depth some investment and i was kind of it sounds weird to say this the only part of me that was glad that it came back to to all is that if they get cooked to old trafford the slot out bandwagon becomes almost unstoppable yeah i think to be honest i think liverpool have just been i mean we've we've talked about this so much this season i don't want to you know labor it yeah but i think there's a lot of things that have happened And despite the clear investment that they made, I think there have been a number of things this season that have just gone against maybe, well, they've gone against them.
40:28Ryan Hunn: I mean, despite the Diogo Jota thing, to be honest, I think is enough for a lot of people, like especially after winning a title. I think, and especially where a few of those players are in their careers, they've been there a long time. They've won everything with Liverpool. When something like that happens, it feels like inevitably just the beginning of the end of that group, that core, right? Which it has been. like Salah's going to go and Diaz's going to go. Diaz went to Bayern. Ekotike, I think, did really well early on in the season. There was a lot of noise around Izak because of the money and the saga, but he just hasn't been fit all season.
41:01Ryan Hunn: He never looked fit from the beginning. He got that injury that took him out for ages. We've talked about all this and they have had some real injury problems at right back. Kyrgyz has been, I'd say, inconsistent. Yes, yes. And I think that's probably quite a surprise because I feel like that was a that was a you know a Premier League ready player that they brought in I'm more surprised by that than the Frim yeah I am and I think it's one that maybe because of his age I think it's one and maybe the fact that he wasn't the most expensive signing that they made I think that's one that maybe gets discussed wider I don't think I think Liverpool fans I've seen a lot of Liverpool stuff cover this at great length but I think on a wider discussion I think it's one that doesn't get as much coverage but understandably so right because people are going to talk about the more high profile things if they're not club specific but I just think with Frimpong the more I've looked at how they've tried to use him this season I can't imagine that he was bought as a right back I do wonder if there was more of a kind of but I do think that if there was, it seems to be more of a succession plan for Salah and the connection and the chemistry that he and Florian Wirtz have and had at Leverkusen, that can sometimes be quite good just taking those two players and putting them in another side.
42:18Ryan Hunn: I think I really sympathise with Liverpool fans because I know it's not been a fun season by any means. I think there have been a lot of factors that have played into that and I think there have been some in their control and some out of their control. I think it's a huge summer. I personally feel like Schlott deserves another window and another go at a season fresh. I think the real shame for him is that it's a World Cup year, right? So it's going to be quite... And Xabi Lanzai's right there. That's the problem as well. That is a big problem. But then if it gets to October, November next season and not much has changed, I think that that's when they might do it.
43:00Ryan Hunn: If they don't move on in the summer. I think it would be a little harsh if they did, although I do still understand maybe the reasons for it. I know that's quite fenced city, but... I don't know, man. I think I've just said this before. like I'm just I'm always just more of a believer that especially the acceptable cycles in terms of success or who's good and who's not anymore is just becoming shorter and shorter and shorter and I'm I'm more of a fan of maybe trying to shift it back the other way and be like hey actually if they qualify for the Champions League and it's been a terrible season in quotation marks despite everything that they've had to navigate especially early on in the season I think that's pretty good I think it's really impressive I think it's really impressive because we've seen how quickly teams like you look at what's happened to Chelsea if Liverpool were ninth or tenth I would feel a little more strongly in support of where I can kind of see this but the fact that this has been an extremely difficult Premier League season extremely I think if they finish fourth or finish fifth and qualify for the Champions League I think that's a that's enough to keep in the job I think all things considered it's really good all things considered all things considered actually you know some will say yes a ton of money but yes also players are human and players get injured the squad building looks really really strange that's the one thing I will say about it like the one concern that we had I don't think that's Slott's fault necessarily no no the one concern we had looking at it Ekotike Vietz um Isak okay wow wow yes of course and then how is it all what about the other end how's it going to fit together and how's it going to play it how's it going to look okay is the other end going to look really robust the fact that none of that happened and the fact that it never really looked robust not for any consistent period is i think that's something the executive level have to answer that's for the board that's the sporting director and the team of like this recruitment needs a serious look because you can't afford that again and also you've picked up these elite talents gotta make it work gotta make it work with them anyway but yes elsewhere in the Premier League because there was so much else going on.
45:09Ryan Hunn: Let's go to the bottom end first. Yes. Because I think that was the way... Okay, we'll have to talk about Spurs beating Villa 2-1. Spurs flew out. Wow. Now, this was coming for a long time, partly because Spurs had actually looked quite decent for patches of the games they'd lost, were quite good value for a win against Wolves, I thought. The passages of play, the football that Spurs have played since De Zerbe took over, you've seen already like real improvement I think not necessarily took a couple of games yeah but even in those games I'm actually quite surprised even I think even in those games they were losing I was seeing passages of play where there was cohesion I would say this the injury to Xavi Simons forced Deserby's hand and made him play Connor Gallagher well didn't make him play that but he played Connor Gallagher further forward in this kind of like pressing 10 oh yeah talk about your you were talking about this in Yeah, but it's something I saw in the game.
46:06I felt a bit weird. I was like, did I see that? I had to actually go back and look. And I was like, I'm pretty sure that Oscar played this role for Chelsea, where it was like a self-sacrificial 10, where you're basically like, you hound people there to their own box. And you take, and anything you get in an attacking sense is a bonus, but you're basically there to block everything. You're there to like stem the tide, high up the pitch. And that paid dividends for Spurs, because not only could Villanotte play out, and they were sluggish and not ready for that. and we've got their look we know they have their own injury list we have their own depletions we know that Kamara being out is always the asterisk over this season because him being out for Villa has determined so much for them but still but still Spurs flew at them got rewarded with a great opener and pretty much controlled proceedings they had this game where they wanted it for most of the 90 minutes I know that Villa got a lay one back but there was only really one team controlling this game or dictating this game and that was Spurs and look and I said this before they shouldn't be where they are in the league the players the players are just even again even with the injury list even with Spurs players won't necessarily Spurs fans may not agree with me on this but even with the injuries I look at the starting team for Spurs and I'm like these players should not be in the bottom three they shouldn't be even with the injuries and and now they're not they're being coached now in a way in accordance, in alignment with their talents.
47:35And they, you know, they could, they should, they should still get out of trouble. They don't have the easiest run in. West Ham took a step backwards, defeated by Brentford. 3-0 defeat. Looks worse, I think, than it is because they could have clawed one back actually. And I think then if they get that goal back, they get the one all from the Mavraponos head, I think it is, then who knows? and West Ham I think it kind of stemmed the tide for them because they've been absolutely flying the last couple of games That was Brentford's first win since February And not a moment too soon Feels weird though right?
48:12Not a moment too soon Because there's such a big gap in games I think as well They're going on a charge themselves a late season charge hopefully for European qualification The back to Spurs just looked really good Yeah really good And the players can take a lot of heart from that
48:27Ryan Hunn: Anything on Villa? or are we going to wait and see where they end up? Well, I think for Villers it makes because they kind of capitulated in this game and injuries notwithstanding we have to take a note of the injuries because they capitulated it now means that last game of the season against City is more important than it should have been. So they've really got to gun it now until the end, yeah. I think also off the back of the forest result in the Europa League on Thursday that's not great that looks like a you know a season that's it's not slipping away but it's starting to starting to skid at the wrong time yeah the thing is they've got the six point buffer on Bournemouth but does that feel like a buffer though does that Bournemouth are coming yeah well I mean shouts to Bournemouth Bournemouth are the longest unbeaten running the top five men's leagues in Europe at the moment 15 games which is horrible it's horrible everyone has to face them 16 draws no parts of that I want no parts of that the frightening thing about 16 draws is that you add one more attacker to that and those things start flipping I mean that's 16 draws while losing Semenyo in January you know it's actually a bit of a what if it's a sad thing because unreal unreal Semenyo stays they're probably fifth yeah probably the way he's been playing they might be winning the league steady on Iriot are leaving I mean Rose are coming in it's I'm fascinated to see we haven't really talked about this I hope he can maintain that momentum I'm really excited he is coming into a team that aligns with the profile of player at Bournemouth I think it's got quite sort of Gladbach feel about it actually it's kind of got a Gladbach feel about it which is why I'm quite excited because what Rose excels at doing is taking players like 20 % better, like players with incredible talent and then making them like cohere some of the stuff he got Gladbach playing.
50:35I mean, he should still, luckily, I mean, he's still eating out on that as he should be. I think he's getting these jobs on the basis of, he's not getting this job because of how he did, for example, at Dortmund, right? He's getting this job because his body of work, including in large part what he did at Gladbach, makes him the right candidate for this. and I think it's really I think it's a really forward thinking appointment by Bournemouth I hope it works for him because I think with the quality of player there especially Rayan and Kruppi to be coached by Rosa I mean fingers crossed for him but I think they could do something really exciting next year
51:10Ryan Hunn: Speaking of appointments it looks like Ed and Terzic is going to Athletic Club No way! Wild No way! Yeah I mean it's been it's been talked about for a little while it's not been confirmed yet but it was there was a lot of I love that there was a lot of yeah it's on starting to pop out do you know what's funny about this Marco Rosa in the Premier League and Ergen Terzic at Athletic Club shouts to 2020 Stadio that's they're having a whale of time but you know what you said but you know how you said like Arsenal having more admirers among European coaches than maybe like you know pundits in the UK whatever like the admiration for Arsenal abroad this is the thing I love about football right admirers abroad yep Edin Terzic I think a fantastic coach right and if you if you if you say oh what are you thinking look at what the man did in the in the in the cup competitions in particular very interesting two former Bundesliga managers now managing the two top well two of the top tier bass clubs I love that I love that because they would say look the cultural fit the region because we're appointing him not only as a coach of a club but as someone that is an ambassador for the region that gets and we just feel there's a good connection I'm really happy for Adrian Cesic if that happens because like that's going to be I think he's got the players to build something really exciting there as well yeah I love that move for him actually I think it's a great cultural fit and he's just such a good coach actually and I think the distorting effect of having to coach against Bayern Munich people don't always appreciate how good a coach you are I think they should have won that league man they should have won they should have they should have anyway they should have Where were we on the Premier League?
52:53Ryan Hunn: We should talk probably about the league leaders this far into the show. Such an important win. Do you know what? I'd forgotten how great it felt to just have a game wrapped up at half-time. Yeah, yeah. Arsenal 3-0 in one of the most impressive Arsenal performances this calendar year. It was the first time they've won a game by more than a single goal since the Leverkusen home game? I genuinely can't even remember when that was. Started very, very well. Saka back in the side. Myles Lewis Skelly in midfield, replacing Martin Zubamendi, who's given a much-deserved rest. And kind of stole the show, I thought, Myles.
53:39Ryan Hunn: I know that Saka got a lot of the plaudits because he got a goal and an assist. And was devastating. Oh, he was brilliant. And you saw the difference in terms of having someone like that just with the players around him. The technical solidity and security that it gives you in that part of the pitch, it's so important. Fulham, it must be said, although I think Marco Silva deserves a lot of credit here because he didn't use it as an excuse, but that squad had been ravaged a bit by a virus in the week. Yes, yes. Some were out, some weren't still feeling 100%. I think some couldn't train. And to be fair, I think you could kind of tell because they were a little bit, they looked a little bit off the pace, but I do think that's also just to how good Arsenal were in that first half.
54:28Ryan Hunn: Yeah, Saka brilliant, taken off at half-time and rested for the rest for this week because obviously Arsenal have the second leg against Atleti on Tuesday. Jokeres, probably his best game in an Arsenal shirt so far in terms of the most complete performance. It's a big shot because he's had a couple of really strong ones. He's had a couple, that's a big shot. I think at this stage of the season, with this much on the line, to score two and also to assist the third, I think that's huge. And he's got 20 goals now. It's the most goals that anyone has scored for Arsenal in a season since, I think, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang in 2019-20 when he got that 29 goal season away.
55:11Ryan Hunn: So yeah, also, I think when you put Trossard and Saka up there and you have Eze behind and you have someone like a fresher midfielder in there because I look I think Martin Zuberman he's been brilliant at points this season I think that the things that have happened is that he's played more he's played more league games or more games this season than he's ever played in his career at club level in a single season so you've started to see that wear and tear and we've seen that with loads of players I think putting Myles Lewis-Skelly in there first of all he's ready to play there and I think this is where he will play in the future.
55:50Ryan Hunn: I've talked about this quite a lot and I talked about it with Andrew on Arsblog a few weeks ago. Just saying how surprised I've been that he hasn't featured more this season in midfield because he's clearly good enough and when he has played left back and he's moved up into midfield, I think of the Atleti game early on in the season where he starts the move, plays the through ball I think for the Martinelli goal. It's brilliant, yeah. That's where he really can pull the strings and I thought you saw this in this game. he only misplaced two passes I think in the entire game I think Wow yeah that's right Was that right?
56:23Ryan Hunn: It's two yeah 64 out of 66 Yeah yeah He didn't misplace a pass until there was one I think late in the first half where he tried to clip a ball through in the channel However he wasn't playing conservatively He was playing It was really good to see a midfielder whose first thought was going forward and that would be the passing through the lanes driving through the lanes or what he did a couple of times which I think is also very handy for Arsenal because of their set piece threat was to roll defenders and buy fouls in positions where you could get Declan Rice on the ball or Saka on the ball for a set piece.
56:57Ryan Hunn: All in all, unbelievable performance, I think. And really, really handy at this point of the season to have someone else getting reps there and playing with such quality in a really important game. And it was just really nice having a routine win. Yeah, that team, I mean that 11 to your point about those wingers Trasad and Saka they they looked a cut above unfortunately what Martin and Madweka have been offering they just looked locked in throughout I thought Eze was really really impressive on the front foot I think he was a different option too I think Martin Odegaard some made a good point he he Saka and Havertz have not played together in the same 11 since late December 2024 since December 2024 I think it started I think They haven't started, which is a wild, wild...
57:48They've got to sort out some of the rotation issues. Injuries have been really, really, really bad. But I think with this front four, I still think Arsenal need to make a bit more of a move in the summer, attacking-wise. But this front four is solid enough to score a few goals in the last few games of the season. And that's going to be crucial, of course, because goal difference can be a big part of all of this. And actually, with Arsenal... should have actually been 4-0 to be honest.
58:19Ryan Hunn: Yeah. I mean, not to split hairs, but then because he would have taken 3-0, I think, as an Arsenal fan at kickoff, given the quality of Fulham, given they can be a real, a difficult proposition. This should be the kind of Arsenal tech that finishes the season because I think it's got the chops to get the job done. Points on the board, man. Man City have to respond now, which I think is quite interesting because there's no more wiggle room. I do wonder if that spectre of having to go to Manchester City with this weird kind of semi-buffer and not, I think, played into a lot of Arsenal's league form before that.
58:55I wonder, yeah, I wonder.
58:56Ryan Hunn: So it's going to be really interesting to see what happens from here on out. Manchester City, obviously we're recording this ahead of the Everton game, but we'll touch on that on Wednesday's show on Patreon, if you want to go to patreon.com forward slash stadio, and we'll talk about the Champions League then as well. Right, before we go, Bundesliga quickly. Yes. Very quickly. St. Pauli were in trouble. Big trouble. St. Pauli lost 2-1 at home to Mainz and it meant that they dropped into the automatic relegation spots because of Wolfsburg's one-all draw away at Freiburg last night. Wolfsburg have actually been on a really impressive run of form and it's come at the worst time for St.
59:35Ryan Hunn: Pauli who have not won a game. They've not won a game since the end of February when they beat Hoffenheim away. they go to Leipzig next and then they host Wolfsburg at home on the final game of the season absolutely huge huge Wolfsburg meanwhile host Bayern next week on the same day so if if it's all square or if both sides lose then it's gold difference dependent and St. Pauli will have to win probably quite big on the final game of the season to get into the relegation the only thing about the Bayern game is that the um the Champions League business will have been concluded by then, right? Whether they go through or not.
1:00:15So they're going to be, Bayern will be turning up again because I think they're going for like goal records. They've got 116.
1:00:22Ryan Hunn: Plus 81 goal difference. 116. It's wild. This Bayern in the Premier League, as they are, they're top two. They're top two, Ryan. And I say that because people look at the Bundesliga and be like, I'm like, no, you don't understand. That is a different level of... I'm not entirely sure if they're maybe top two just because of how consistent week and week, the level of the kind of like, I think it's more of the physicality of it. At their peak, they are. I think it's just hard to tell, really. I think it's hard, because remember early on in the season, they got completely done by Arsenal and they were only really missing Diaz and Musiala.
1:01:01Ryan Hunn: Top Premier League sides have missed a huge amount of players. It's like, for example, how would Bayern necessarily deal with that back four Brentford on a Wednesday night with four key players out and then you know it's like that's a that's the one thing that I think the Bundesliga gives you I think that I think the Bundesliga I think the Bayern defence would get a lot of it would get a very hard time from that put it this way I don't think they'd be putting up I don't think they'd have plus 81 goal difference in the Premier League no god no that's not like a Premier League superiority thing I think it's just more the like Bayern are so good they've also played their way into real they started the season very strongly but they've played their way into overall you know that thing that company said I want to be the best team in May yeah but it's also it's the luxury to have the resources to play yourself into form because you can't yeah with Bayern you're not scrapping you can afford to try things out you can afford to like gamble a couple of games try in different approaches you look at look at Brighton look how Brighton was struggling at the start of the season really like and even like some of mid-season actually and now they kind of come into their own you don't have margin forever like the Premier League.
1:02:09Don't have that margin.
1:02:10Ryan Hunn: I mean, put it this way. Look, there is no, this isn't, you know how much I love the Bundesliga, but there's no Heidenheim in the Premier League. We just talked about St. Pauli. Their record transfer is like 4 million. You're not dealing with that in the Premier League. And I think that that's the difference where you have these, not every team, you have a few more teams that the margin between you and the bottom half of the table, let's say, is much bigger than it is in the Premier League. So that's the only thing. But there was that year, I remember, like a few years ago there was a specific iteration of Bayern when we were like maybe and they were in a really poor run of form it was in the autumn I think do you remember and we were like I mean this Bayern at the moment I'm struggling to see them being top three or four because they were so bad completely completely and then didn't they go and win the treble they just turned it around and win the treble was that when Flick yeah Flick came in and like just yeah maybe that was it maybe I think it was like maybe it was like late era Kovac yes that was it as they do a co-match and Flick came in and just transformed them.
1:03:09Ryan Hunn: But that's the thing that it shows you how quickly Bayern can go from being, I mean, we've seen it recently, right, from the side that could have lost the league to Dortmund on the final game of the season. Could have really, you could have had a, you very, very nearly could have had two years in a row where Bayern didn't win the league. Yeah. Which would have been like, wild. They should be at Dortmund. And now, you've seen the distance that now company has turned them back around. So, you know. Oh man, oh Dortmund. just because this is not a general Dortmund it's more like the Mites game the Allaire penalty oh man still nuts a couple of other quick shouts though Haas-Faust safe their win against Eintracht meant that they have secured Bundesliga football next season as have Union Marie-Louis Etta got her first point as Union men's head coach in one of the toughest games to get it in yeah Cologne at home late equaliser as well Cologne scrapping it out with them and that was all they needed that was all they needed and they are now safe and they have the Urs Fischer derby next week they go to Mainz love that love that so I'm glad they got that sorted ahead of the Urs Fischer derby because I don't think Urs Fischer would have wanted to make things sketchy for Union going into the last game of the season yep yep absolutely you know Zweiter Bundesliga shout what's been going on down there Schalke are back Schalke are back they are going to be back in the Bundesliga they beat Fortuna Dusseldorf on the weekend and they will win the league and they will be back in the Bundesliga next season.
1:04:42Ryan Hunn: I think that is a really good thing for the league. Who will join them in the top flight? We do not know because Elversberg had a 5-1 win over Paderborn to jump into second because Hannover dropped points also against Preussen-Munster, a 3-0 draw. Hannover thought they'd won it in the 85th minute and Jorrit Hendricks was like nope there was a shout in the chat for this was game of the one of the games of the season 93rd minute equaliser for Preussen Munster so the final automatic promotion spot has it's all up for grabs now the Zweiter Bundesliga is still delivering as you say the best league in the world alright well I think it's about time we got out of here let's do it because we've covered a lot today it was a busy episode it was it was busy weekend we hope everyone stays safe and well wherever you are don't forget patreon.com forward slash stadio come and sign up for a podcast membership if you want to listen to all of the podcasts ad-free info including this week's champions league episodes don't forget to check kickback soccer look out for the podcast and stuff like that and don't forget to check stadio actuals players on spotify speaking of which playing out on track called blue kembang by heath tarawang sawalis i think i hope i pronounced that right um anything you would like to add Musak Wonga?
1:06:04Ryan Hunn: Nothing further. Are you sure? Yes. I've added quite enough. All right, everyone. Much love. Back with you on Wednesday. See you then.
1:06:46Ryan Hunn: All right All right
1:06:56Ryan Hunn: Let's see Bifie Vert Gracias Thank you.
1:07:39Ryan Hunn: Thank you.
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It was a blur of a weekend, with seismic results all over Europe!
Musa and Ryan begin with Barcelona and Lyonnes getting past Bayern and Arsenal to make it to the UWCL final in Oslo (03:09), moving onto Inter securing their 21st Scudetto (11:37), Venezia making it back to Serie A and more, before heading to the Premier League.
Manchester United secured Champions League football for next season (28:31), following their 3-2 win over Liverpool at Old Trafford, so there’s chat about that as well as Liverpool’s situation. Spurs made it two wins in two to get out of the relegation zone after their win at Villa Park and Bournemouth are one of Europe’s most in form teams.
Meanwhile, at the top, Arsenal had some key players back and looked sharper than they have in months to beat Fulham 3-0 and go six points clear (50:18) and there’s a lot of praise for Myles Lewis-Skelly’s performance, starting in midfield for the first time.
Finally, there’s some Bundesliga chat (56:33), as St. Pauli dropped into the relegation spots and Schalke won promotion back to the top flight.
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