Is this thing on? Checking in and chatting about Florian Wirtz

0:00Musa Okwonga: Hello and welcome back to the Study Podcast. I'm Musa Okwonga.

0:02Ryan Hunn: Oh, you're doing the same one. Sorry, carry on.

0:28Musa Okwonga: hello and welcome back to the stadio podcast i'm mr kwanga i'm ryan hun brian how are you doing

0:33Ryan Hunn: I'm alright thanks man I'm very happy to see your face

0:40Musa Okwonga: Why are you laughing? I'm being serious Well I was not happy to see my own face this morning That's all So I'm glad you are Taking that bathroom mirror I was walking home last night This is bleak This went bleak very quickly I was walking back to mine last night And there was quite a busy bar And I was like oh what's going on in there I stopped and asked the security I said what's going on there and the guy goes almost panicking I was like no no you can't just go in there it's like you've got to buy tickets it's not just a walk up thing and I said dude it's okay like I'm not going to go

1:11Ryan Hunn: oh no no I'm not coming in

1:12Musa Okwonga: I was like look I'm old like I'm old and he visibly relaxed it's quarter past ten you should have seen his face the anxiety he goes you can't just come in here anxiety exists so I think I scared the guy in the door so yeah I think I'm doing it yeah

1:30Ryan Hunn: Well, hi, mate. How are you?

1:32Musa Okwonga: I'm good, man. I'm good to see you, man. Good to see you. I'm well, I'm well. Good. Do you know my own thing? Floating around the continent this summer. Well, I'm glad you're having a nice time.

1:46Ryan Hunn: You might be surprised, everyone, to just see us pop up on the feed. We thought we'd just check in. Yes, yes. Because, well, you know, Moose has been gallivanting. I have, actually, haven't I? Some of us have been hard at work. behind the scenes.

2:03Musa Okwonga: You know, it's a little or no fanfare. But it's fine. But hey, it's fine. I have not been at work, hard at work, and I've been in front of the scenes. Honestly, it is fine.

2:13Ryan Hunn: It needs to be done. We just thought we'd check in and update you a little bit and yeah, say hello. So we're here anyway. Same old. Yes. But yeah, we do hope everyone's staying safe, staying well, wherever you are. And if you're checking in with the football, enjoying the football. There's a lot of football on, there's a lot of football to come. Today, we're going to do a little bit of admin, give you a bit of an update on where we're at with Stadio stuff, because I had a few people asking us

2:39Musa Okwonga: what the hell's going on.

2:40Ryan Hunn: Then we're going to just have a bit of fun. We're going to read out some of the submissions that we had about the fictional sporting director stuff, because they were really fun. And I think we might chat a little bit about Florian Vietz.

2:51Musa Okwonga: Yes, what a player.

2:52Ryan Hunn: Florian Vietz, signing for Liverpool since we were away, confirmed. What a signing. Hell of an acquisition. Serious stuff. And that'll just probably do us for a bit of a check-in episode. So, should we get into it after this? Let's do it. First things first, should we talk about where we're at? What's going on with Stadio?

3:12Musa Okwonga: Yeah, yeah. You first, you first. Because otherwise, I've already given them an anecdote, so why don't you jump in?

3:19Ryan Hunn: We've been working pretty hard. I appreciate everyone who's saying, hope we're having a nice vacation. Please direct those towards Moosa. who uh i'm just kidding ruse is working hard but just on other stuff we are we are working away the podcast is just not up yeah as much as we would love to do it we're not going to be able to cover the the euros um however hey crossways and counterpressed absolutely and check out the cutback flow lloyd hughes oh flow like hughes is absolutely bossing it media but eating everyone's lunch lunch so there's plenty to keep you going daily stuff on the cutback which i've been reading it's great and obviously the counter press gang and uh ian and stephan crossways will have you all covered for the euros we're extremely disappointed that we can't really do it but we we just we wouldn't be able to do it the the service that uh justice yeah yeah we wouldn't be able to do it properly but the things that we've been working on are just like what stadia looks like going forward and uh we're really excited about it we're going to probably announce it fully at the end of july beginning of august yeah but let's just say for those of you who have been letting us know quite frequently that you would be up for a paid option that meant that you didn't have to listen to any adverts let's just say stay tuned it might happen and we've also been working on some of the non-podcast stuff as well which we hope to announce around i don't know maybe august september time which would be really cool as well but um yeah busy busy bees indeed behind the scenes but yeah you don't have to do anything at the moment we might pop up with another show sporadically before we're back fully fully fully for the season and then the week before the season is when we will release all of the details about the rollout the rollout yeah we will roll it out roll out roll out there is one thing though that you can all do which would really really help us at the moment oh yeah that's true if you could rate and review the podcast that would be amazing preferably five stars give us a review if you like if it's a nice one if not just like i don't know hate on us to someone else anyway what have you been up to

5:24Musa Okwonga: oh so um i was at my uni for a reunion recently that was pretty amazing 25 years uh my friends were looking incredible doing very well 25 years i know dude dude anyway 25 years then i'm i'm a chairing an event um at a conference this week so i've got to read like a few hundred pages got three books to read but i've read do you want to actually tell them what that is though okay so like every year gq do an event called gq heroes and they get people sort of artists um academics cult various cultural figures in uh the soho farmhouse and they basically have three days of talks um by different people panelists so i'm talking to uh a few different people about modern masculinity which would be really interesting sharing a conversation about that and I do that because I write for them obviously about football and politics the intersection of the two and sometimes just about politics itself and so that's where they've got me in so looking forward to that That's going to be great man Really looking forward to it work on a book at the moment writing Oh we got him I am I am I am working on a book Hang on one second I'm just going to knee slap Enough studio listeners have written to me go why are you out here vamos we got him in our study listeners like over the last few months have been like why aren't you busy working and i'm like actually good point so i should actually get back to it incredible and also did a workshop actually shout out to rough trade books at a workshop with them so i was back over in the uk for that and loved that like amazing group including the study listener oh he didn't tell me he's a study listener till the very end oh we were like just having a drink afterwards.

7:11Musa Okwonga: And then he said, yeah, yeah, you knew what this was. And I'm like, ah, amazing. Shout out, Killian. Came all the way from Barcelona for it. Oh, wow. Yeah, I know. Great writer too. Excellent writer.

7:22Ryan Hunn: I was chatting to a friend, actually, I forgot to tell you this. I was chatting to a friend the other day and he said he went into his local wine shop and the guy behind the counter was wearing a spiritually old side t-shirt. And he said, oh, Stadia listener. And the guy was just like,

7:35Musa Okwonga: yes, finally. I've been waiting for someone to drink. You're joking. No, seriously.

7:41Ryan Hunn: And my friend said it was probably like the most, the most like on branding. That is absolutely hilarious. That is hilarious.

7:48Musa Okwonga: I love that. I love that. Shouts to Ali. I love that.

7:52Ryan Hunn: Cool, man. All good stuff. Should we do some fun football stuff while we're here? Of course, let's do it. Do you know what? I forgot to do mine still, but it doesn't matter because these are all better. So one job, right? One job. All right. So on the previous show, we had a great question about fictional like sporting directors what you would where you would be what club you would do etc etc we had an amazing one from friend of the show an all-rounder don franklin leonard man about town founder of the blacklist i think you should read this one because he sent it to me and i i replied to him just saying moose is gonna love this so if you if you if you forget what the question was it was just like where would you have a team who would be a current player as a manager you know all that kind of vibe the set up etc etc

8:45Musa Okwonga: this is great okay let's let's go for it let's do it cheers Franklin he begins so I may have gone too deep on this by the way you can never go too deep on this so I may have gone too deep on this and now I sort of want to make this happen but here we go and knowing Franklin he will make it happen I have long believed that it was insane that the Paris metro area doesn't have more teams of global renown, if only because of how much talent they produce that does. So I thought I'd drop a team into, you know, Saint-Denis, the so-called 93. As I understand it, it's the most densely populated, youngest, and most diverse part of France, and it's basically the engine room of modern French culture.

9:22Musa Okwonga: Its influence on all fronts is frankly global at this point. Current player's manager, N 'Golo Kante.

9:32Ryan Hunn: Piers will say... That's bait.

9:34Musa Okwonga: It says bait.

9:35Ryan Hunn: It says bait. taken i've taken i'm all in purist has said purist will say that he's from western paris and fair

9:43Musa Okwonga: play but to yule's point about defensive mids being exceptional managers you're not going to get much better than that and he embodies the humility hard work and a quiet excellence that people underestimate that it's too late that should be the spirit of this club going further i'm tapping in lillian taram as club president and bringing in the artist and filmmaker jr and the filmmaker Lajli, who put the 93 on the world map art-wise as my celebrity investors. Oh my God. If I wanted to go cross-Atlantic with it, I'd add Kendrick Lamar, who I suspect would be down, and Timmy Chalamet, whose affection for French football is well known at this point.

10:19Oh my God.

10:21Musa Okwonga: But yeah, build a club that's of SSD with a global face from the 93 to the world. That. The only... Oh my God.

10:31Ryan Hunn: They only have mischief walkout music.

10:33Musa Okwonga: Do you know? Yes. 93 to infinity. Incredible. You know, it's wild about this as well. Like the only thing this is missing. I'm adding like Blaise Matuidi to the board of directors because they adore him. They adore that guy. We went that time in Paris and like he came out. Yeah. I get Tiakala there as well. Tiakala doing the music, just doing a soundtrack. Like, um, who else would you add to that? The thing about Kendrick is interesting because Kendrick was actually there. and he was hanging out in Cesar, which is interesting because like Kendrick is like a low profile dude. So for him to be stepping out like that is a big deal.

11:11Musa Okwonga: And like Kendrick, watching Kendrick embrace his kind of high culture era, which is unusual. You know that thing that you see a lot of footballers doing now, the fashion show thing. Kendrick really been embracing that. So actually as a collaboration, that's not a bad look. Get Pogba back in there in some kind of like,

11:30Ryan Hunn: Hey, Pogba's at Monaco.

11:32Musa Okwonga: This is, listen, Pogba at Monaco. I love, that is tasty. I want them to have like a Cinderella run in the league. I want them to push PSG close. I'm not sure how realistic that is, but Pogba is the elder statesman with some of that young talent and Ansu Fati's in the mix as well. Yeah, wild. I don't know, that's a good one. But yeah, but back to Franklin. Franklin, I love that. I told you, I told you you'd love it. It's incredible. You're pandering, but I like it.

11:56Ryan Hunn: Oh, it's 100 % pandering. but like look we're here for it it's fine totally 100 right i'm going to read one from nick mclintock who said hey there funny coincidence i was just appointed to lead a brand new football club about 10 years ago my ex-partner and i visited a small seaside town in portugal on the recommendation of our landlord who had grown up there we had a wonderful lunch walked up a cliff to a lighthouse overlooking the town. Fast forward to present day and I saw that same lighthouse, the same cliff, the same town featured in the HBO documentary 100 Foot Wave about big wave surfers who had discovered the absolutely epic waves breaking right at the foot of the cliff and had started to put down roots there.

12:43Ryan Hunn: So welcome to Sporting Club de Nazare whose mission is to host world-class athletes interested in growing and contributing to a town that would otherwise go ignored. My minority owner and club ambassador is Lucas Trumbo. Not the most featured surfer on the dog, but someone with 100 % approval rating and global pull. My men's team's manager is Jorginho. It might be the apotheosis of the theory that technically and tactically intelligent midfielders with limited physical profiles make the best managers. My women's team's manager is Jen Beatty because we're going to summon the underdog spirit of a centre-back playing at striker scoring a header in the Champions League semi-final.

13:25Musa Okwonga: The future looks bright. Much love, Nick. Oh, Nick, I love that. I love that. I love that. Do you know what I'd like to do? Let me just bring in Liz Arazu as sporting director.

13:38Ryan Hunn: And pre-season team building head. Surf guy too. Yeah, but also didn't he do some kind of like...

13:47Musa Okwonga: Jiu-jitsu. Jiu-jitsu or something. That's what I mean. He's a surf guy. It'd be perfect. It'd be perfect. I think he lives in Portugal as well.

13:54Ryan Hunn: I love that one. Let's have this one from James Hodges. He says, hello both. Hope you're well. Cheers, James. Hope you are too. In response to the question of the most recent mailbag, Ari, the ideal city, celebrity minor, minority owner, and future manager of your club, I've come up with the following. Treviso, Italy. No major club there, but with Hellas Verona and Chievo nearby, we've got some ready made rivalries that is gold as well as what I'm calling the Derby della Moda Derby of fashion with near neighbours and fashion outlet dressed as football club for Net CFC hey listen that's steady on also for Moose's knees Trevizo Trevizo is the home of tiramisu

14:36Musa Okwonga: and great cycling too oh my goodness celebrity minority owner

14:41Ryan Hunn: we're in fashion conscious northern Italy so we need a guy who can cut Cut about some decent clothes. Martin Freeman knows his football and ends up in GQ often enough.

14:52Musa Okwonga: Wow, that I was not expecting. That was not the follow-up to it. Martin Freeman like, what?

15:00Ryan Hunn: Martin Freeman cutting a look to the camera from his office days.

15:03Musa Okwonga: Martin Freeman, most fashionable man in Italy. Can you imagine? The Italians will come for us. They'll come for us. Look, I'm not saying it's not left field and brilliant. I'm just saying. if we endorse that they're coming for us

15:21Ryan Hunn: where was I? I've completely lost my word Martin Schreemann knows his football and ends up in GQ often enough you should know this Mr GQ over there future manager possibly a dull answer

15:30Musa Okwonga: I'm on the other part of GQ I'm not in that part I'm not in the high society

15:33Ryan Hunn: future manager possibly a dull answer but I can see Virgil van Dijk being the next Vincent Kompany and he seems like he's got his head switched on and can definitely pass on some cloppian wisdom

15:42Musa Okwonga: You know, if Van Dijk ever wanted to coach, I don't know if it's in the thing he wants to do, but if he wanted to coach, that's a great shout. I think he'd be brilliant. Cheers, James. I love that one. You know, that's got me thinking about a ton of different options. I wonder if he'd go somewhere small, Van Dijk. He seems like that kind of dude that's quite low-key. He would just go and just coach the absolute backside off like a team-like, maybe even like a second division team, and then just work up. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

16:11Ryan Hunn: let's do one more from Ryan Middleton Ryan says excellent question from this person I would choose Exxon Provence love that they have a team now but they are in a regional league at the bottom of the pyramid six levels down for a city of 145 ,000 people that is pretty bad it will always live in the shadow of Marseille for sport but it is a beautiful beautiful city with incredible food and culture and easy to access via train or bus from major hubs Zidane lives in X. I mean, that's a great shout. So he is the celebrity owner. Even if he is a Marseille guy, if Omar C wants to get involved, I would never say no to that.

16:52Ryan Hunn: Ooh, now we're talking. For a current player, I think Granit Xhaka would be a good one. I think he'd be a great coach. But I'm not sure if he would be the right fit or if he speaks enough French for the role. Swiss though, so. I think he'd be great. I think Xhaka.

17:10Musa Okwonga: I think, I'm really interested to see how he coaches.

17:12Ryan Hunn: Yeah, me too. Griezmann has the public profile for a job. I think Griezmann would be a great sporting director, actually.

17:19Musa Okwonga: Oh, yeah.

17:20Ryan Hunn: Actually, that's not a bad shout.

17:21Musa Okwonga: And also the type of positions Griezmann's played, the tactical intelligence. I mean, he's one of the most tactical intelligence players international football has seen. Like, how many players got their, like, country to the World Cup final playing a completely different role from the one that they won it with? Like, if you look at him in 2018, he was a second striker right and 22 he was he was a midfielder he was a proper 8 that was like I think I think Griezmann would be a great sporting director actually

17:49Ryan Hunn: yeah I agree super smart this isn't done though Ryan continues Marquinhos of PSG would be a fun one and can probably speak at least three languages to manage this team whoever the coach is I would love to see Pogba on the staff

17:59Musa Okwonga: coaching the shit out of the midfield oh my god yes

18:02Ryan Hunn: and everyone on vision passing and movement

18:04Musa Okwonga: there you go that's one from Ryan I love the Marquinhos shout as well I'm not sure how well he'd go down as a man, as a Paris man in the Marseille setup. But it's X, it's X, it would be okay.

18:14Ryan Hunn: There you go. Those are great. Do you want to take another break and then let's chat a little bit about Florian Witts? Yeah, let's do it. So,

18:21Musa Okwonga: signing of the summer so far? Sound of the summer. Yes. And I think, I can't see what would top it.

18:28Ryan Hunn: So it happened, it got confirmed, what, 10 days ago now? Yeah, nice. Florian Witts signs for Liverpool in what is shaping up to be a mega window for Liverpool.

18:38Musa Okwonga: They have some great business.

18:39Ryan Hunn: I think the price at the end of the day, it's kind of right. It's fair. It's fair. Yeah. They've added Kirchner as well to the mix. They've already got Jeremy Fringpong coming in, which I think is a major component in the Florian Viet signing because... Yeah, the understanding. Having someone there, much like actually Trent going to Real Madrid, having Jude Bellingham there. Yes. Having someone that is that close to Florian Viet straight away, especially for acclimatisation stuff. Totally. And someone who knows the North West very, very well, Jeremy Frimpong remember oh yeah good point

19:11Musa Okwonga: yeah great point

19:11Ryan Hunn: that is

19:13Musa Okwonga: it's so smart really smart from Liverpool it's so smart like Frimpong who was on that incredible run obviously with with Vietz you know the undefeated double domestic double season and who also just understands everything Vietz does in terms of movement and Frimpong's movement as Liverpool fans will see is exceptional so so smart and so good at stretching one thing they're so good at doing is stretching deep-line defences. Those two are masters at that. So just a championship side, tooling up, skilling up, in such impressive style. But Vietz specifically, I did, Sheldon Lackerson at the Anfield Rapp, I did a podcast with him about this.

19:59Ryan Hunn: You did. Way before it, a lot of the comments underneath it were like, bloody hell, guys, he's not even signed yet. And it was just like, steady, don't worry.

20:07Musa Okwonga: Soon come, soon come. but Wietz had decided on that ages ago but this signing how do you feel about him as a player because I've got my thoughts

20:15Ryan Hunn: Love him I think this is an incredible signing incredible just an incredible incredible signing someone we've watched a lot of for a long time and someone who kind of exploded into that Leverkusen side was so clearly going to be a difference maker and then he had that horrible injury where he did his cruciate didn't he and we were really worried about him. The fact that he returned and got better after such an injury at that age was wild and he's had a key role in the international in the national side now. His partnership with Jamal Musiana I think is really encouraging because it's a different system than what he's played at Leverkusen but it's also one that we've seen works.

20:59Ryan Hunn: He can adapt to different systems. He's really, really good with link-up play. He can roam. He can finish. He can create his own chances. he can create for other people. He's just, there is no, I don't think there is a single downside to this signing, like at all.

21:13Musa Okwonga: Yes, it's mind-blowing. The thing about this as well, Vietz, and you said it too there, equally dangerous as a scorer, as a creator. And the thing is, you know, other players, you look at a creative player like Rui Costa, for example, back in the day, Rui Costa could hurt you with the assist, but wasn't a volume goal scorer. Well, no, it wasn't in his temperament to go after the goals, but Vietz will go it alone if he has to combines beautifully so he can score the solo goals pick up the ball 40 yards out he's got a terrific shot from distance as well like he's got an exceptional strike it's funny because he's not a big dude in terms of he doesn't look physically imposing but he's like surprisingly powerful actually quite similar to Jamal Masiala very dynamic the thing that they're going to love about this signing Liverpool is the variety of systems they can play now they can play with a conventional nine or they can play with a front six and just overload you with runners vits can withdraw and then you won't be able to find him and mark him and then you're like well who do we pick up like the amorphous front line yep gives you a lot of flexibility in terms of

22:20Ryan Hunn: what you can do with a front line like that right so you know it wouldn't surprise me if you saw flooring vits on paper starting as like a number nine right but he won't be that you know he'll just create that you know like you said that withdrawn role which will allow i mean i wonder what they do left I think left like winger it's probably the final piece of that puzzle for Liverpool I think that's right because you've got Bradley to come in at right back which I think will or if they want to go there like we were talking about that idea of like they can move around and put Frimpong in there it's going to be so interesting if the Frimpong thing makes me the Frimpong Bradley combo if you're going to put both of them on the football pitch yes makes me think that they might move Salah a little bit inside and we might see a change of shape from

23:07Musa Okwonga: Liverpool. Super interesting.

23:09Ryan Hunn: They've just added really, really smartly in positions that they needed to with really interesting players.

23:15Musa Okwonga: Yeah, like... I mean, look, I'm not... I've got no skin in the game at all, but I wonder what Rodrigo is saying. Like, only because... I don't think it happens. I think actually, like, what... If Liverpool get Rodrigo, that's... What Xavi Nance is building Real Madrid, though, is so exciting, I think, that they're going to keep... I think he'll hang around. He's not really featured, though, is he? No, but the new shape they're using, that 3-4-3. We got the back three. Well, that's the thing. The shape they're using, the 3-4-3, all of a sudden it puts everything else in play. Because then you've got Arda Goulet in deep midfield alongside Valverde as a creator, like a Guti style creator.

23:52Musa Okwonga: And that creates more room for Rodrigo in that front three.

23:57Ryan Hunn: Speaking of Guti, we had a Vinicius Junior tribute, didn't we?

24:00Musa Okwonga: Oh, did we? I didn't see it. Did a lot of back heel. oh yes I've got the assist for Valverde yeah that looks see that's the thing that is a party that's about to start under Xabi Alonso potentially and I don't think Rodrigo leaves that but yeah the left winger is there's no shortage of great left wingers in the world at the moment that is it's one of those few positions where actually there's like a lot of good options at the moment well it looks like Nico Williams is going to Barca which is you know what's weird about that

24:28Ryan Hunn: like because they've got Rafinha

24:29Musa Okwonga: it's weird you don't yeah they actually bought another left winger recently as well and I'm like I'm not thinking that Barcelona's problems are are in that in that aspect I mean they've got Bernal to come back they've got Casado to come back that's exciting for Barca they've got the challenges in defence though but then again is the challenge the defence or just the highline system I think it's the system actually

24:50Ryan Hunn: they've got Garcia as well which is a great signing

24:51Musa Okwonga: for them yeah

24:52Ryan Hunn: I think anyone struggles

24:53Musa Okwonga: in that in that defence to be honest

24:55Ryan Hunn: there's going to be a little bit of Barca drama I think this summer because Ter Stegen is the is the latest one who's

25:02Musa Okwonga: not fucking leaving.

25:04Ryan Hunn: Yeah. And like, they really want him to go. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, anyway, back to Liverpool, back to Florian Vietz. Yes. When their signing is so good, it has a Man United fan and an Arsenal fan just saying,

25:18Musa Okwonga: well played. I mean, I love this. I love the signing because it's perfect for Vietz's development.

25:25Ryan Hunn: He said something really interesting when he was doing his interview and he said, it was the time for the next step in my career the three clubs in the world Liverpool was one of them

25:34Musa Okwonga: and I was just like

25:36Ryan Hunn: what's he talking about

25:37Musa Okwonga: Liverpool, Real Madrid Bayern

25:39Ryan Hunn: maybe the third one

25:41Musa Okwonga: yeah Bayern or City or he spoke to Bayern I don't think City was in there maybe City was in there but I think of the three Liverpool offers the best chance for his development yeah it's perfect by far it's perfect yeah Bayern you just kind of get swallowed up in a squad not swallowed up but you're in a squad where it's a Yeah. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying?

26:02Ryan Hunn: It's the noise around Bayern. It is so intense. Because the media landscapes for clubs in the Premier League is so big, and club-specific as well. You know, like, for example, the ecosystem around Liverpool is massive. The ecosystem around Man United is huge. Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, et cetera, et cetera. Manchester City. Bayern is by far, it just completely crushes everything else. Totally. And I wonder if the combination of being you know winning the double being a real you know one of the new wave of german superstars and then also that combination of having that profile and then going to bayern i think is to where do you go from there as well yeah i think because bayern is and it could be a potential if he wants to go back to germany at one point it's a come home move right or it's a going home move the liverpool move is just perfect because you know not wanting to get him out of there already but for example if he does five, six years at Liverpool and then goes to Real Madrid

27:01Musa Okwonga: like no one's going to really like Total and by then actually there might be more room for him because I think the thing with Madrid right now there's a lot of conductors in that team already and I don't know if it's I mean then again I say that but there was that amazing Mourinho team which had like you know Kaka and Di Maria and Ozil they did just fine So it's possible If that's the kind of career

27:21Ryan Hunn: that he wants to map out because not every player wants that you know Totally But yeah I mean just what a summer for Liverpool yeah absolutely you know you've got a rest you've seen a couple of title rivals or top four rivals going off to the Club World Cup the side who finished second behind you their fan base is

27:41Musa Okwonga: sweating already because they haven't signed anyone oh goodness although

27:45Ryan Hunn: it's fine it'll all happen I think

27:47Musa Okwonga: in the next week or two

27:49Ryan Hunn: and yeah you've probably made three of the most smart signings one of which is was someone that everyone wanted and you got.

28:01Musa Okwonga: That's great, man. That's like... What Viz is going to add is just the passing tempo, the movement, the switches, that Liverpool style. It's funny because he's a really old school. If you look at Liverpool's tradition of playmakers and Dow Gleach and these types of players, he's very much in that tradition. You look at him and there's a lot about him, even down to the low-cut socks is quite a throwback. I think that fans will absolutely love him. And on the Anfield wrap, I was, you know, I was boosting quite a lot of people like, they were like, are you talking about too much? I was like,

28:33Ryan Hunn: I don't think I am.

28:35Musa Okwonga: We spoke, but look, I'm not a footballer. I never have been a footballer, but Jackson Irvine did say, I mean, he said that he, him, Lamin Amal and, and Murciala were the best attacking midfielders in the world. I think that, that says it all really. I would love to see actually Vitz, I mean, we joke about this, but I'd love to see Vitz doing a Jack Wilshere and just dropping really deep in a particular game and just running it from there. I keep thinking about this. It's the, I think it was they beat Chelsea 3-1, I think, Emirates. And Wilshere just dropped right back and just ran it. And that didn't go within like more than 30 yards of the Chelsea goal and was off the scale brilliant.

29:16Musa Okwonga: See, I'd just love to see him. I'd love to see him just do that in one game and be like, what's he doing back there? Then all of a sudden, oh my God, just 40 yard switches. I'd love that. It's good enough, good enough.

29:25Ryan Hunn: He is good enough. What a signing. What a summer for Liverpool fans already. Incredible. Good times.

29:31Musa Okwonga: Anything else you want to touch on while we're here? Little bit. I know we did mention the Club World Cup, which is ongoing. Yeah. Just a couple of things on that, just things I've noticed. I'm not really, you know, watching it too closely, but interested at how seriously big clubs are taking it. I mean, it's... Yeah. I've made just treating it as sort of a pre-season. I've made just treating it as, you know what, treat this as a more intense pre-season tournament. but the intensity of some of the play if you look like psg for example gets into miami just cooking them 4-0 not often busquets will get caught in possession like he did by fabian ruiz um psg press taking their prisoners but what's interesting about it as well is psg have not come to play botafogo shame they've gone out because a team i you know enjoy watching other things i've just been picking up from the tournament man city have signed really well yeah like they have Ait Nuri is it's funny because I was watching him at Wolves going this is like an incredible player like and a lot of people were like hyping him I was like no I think he's really like I think he's very good like elite yeah like when he got signed by City I was like yeah someone's been paying real attention over there that in many ways that's one of the most intriguing slash exciting signings I've seen a shame that Mamelodi's Sundowns couldn't get through couldn't get it done so much quality but just got undone by a couple of key lapses.

30:53Ryan Hunn: A couple of interesting things from my point of view. Some amazing performances from the South American teams. The Flamengo performance against Chelsea, for example, was amazing. Also, pure ego-driven stadium choices from Gianni Infantino,

31:06Musa Okwonga: which, you know, is like, wow. Mureska not happy about the location with the weather. Not happy about that.

31:12Ryan Hunn: some really poor choices in terms of kick-offs and the weather. And I think also, So I think that makes the tournament feel a little bit weird because you've got some amazing stadiums, but there may be like 20 ,000, 30 ,000 capacity. But having those sold out and full and rocking, I think would make it feel a lot better than, you know, even if you have 30 ,000 in a stadium that holds 50 ,000 to 60 ,000. It's just weird, right?

31:38Musa Okwonga: Also, talking of weird, talking of weird, actually, I can't go and mention that Infantino took Juventus to the White House. Don't, that's like honestly one of the fucking bleakest things I've seen. Just, I mean, yeah. Look, I think the commentary on that is already quite, you know, extensive, but just this is what people were talking about when they were worried about what this tournament could be used for, how it could be used, with everything going on in the US at the moment, like people were, and there it was, there it was. So yeah, bleak as hell. In amidst all of it, some interesting elements, but safe to say that my heart is not, you know, in this tournament.

32:17Ryan Hunn: One final shout out, shouts to Lee Carsley and his young lions for winning back-to-back under 21 Euro championships. They beat Germany 3-2 after extra time. Amazing. To win their second in a row after not winning it for, was it 39 years? I think before that. So incredible achievement from Lee Carsley. Shouts to him and his team and that very, very talented squad.

32:43Musa Okwonga: The future is looking bright. Yeah, yeah.

32:46Ryan Hunn: Shall we roll? Let's do it We hope everyone's staying safe staying well enjoying the football if you are checking into the football getting hyped for the Euros we're going to be watching it as fans but yeah like we mentioned some great stuff still in the ringer go check out Oppressed and Crossways

33:02Musa Okwonga: all the way through the Euros I'm just worried that Barcelona I'm just Barcelona and the Spanish players are going to be on a revenge tour and Caldente is now like so amped I'm worried they're just going to tear through that thing Oh no Oh no

33:15Ryan Hunn: England defending their title

33:18Musa Okwonga: we will check in maybe a couple of weeks a couple of weeks yeah yeah

33:23Ryan Hunn: we'll check in a couple of weeks and then we'll you know we'll be back fully end of July but until then don't forget to check the Stadio Outros playlist on Spotify we're playing out on Summer Breeze by Tech N9ne anything you would like to add Mooseok Wonga

33:39Musa Okwonga: there's actually nothing further incredible do you know what we're going to work on

33:43Ryan Hunn: we're going to work on some new intros and outros for the new season because let's let's switch this shit up a bit yeah let's do it alright everyone much love stay cool stay cool everyone alright how do you do fellow kids we'll check in with you very soon hopefully yeah yeah see you then

34:22Thank you.

34:46Thank you.