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0:58Welcome to the Thursday edition of the Stadio Podcast. I'm Musa Kwonga.

1:02Ryan Hunn: I'm Ryan Hun. How are you, man? Yeah, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah. Good? Considering everything. No, I am good. I am good, actually. I am good. Hey, it's just football. Is it though? Yeah. Yeah, no, it is, it is, it is. Well, we hope everyone else is staying safe and well, wherever you are. Some admin, very quickly. Don't forget, join us on Patreon if you want to listen to full ad-free episodes of Stadio at least twice a week you can join as a podcast member or if you want an extra podcast a week plus access to the Discord which was popping off again on the Grimsby Manchester United game by the way the live match chat on there a lot of fun was being had don't want to it is definitely since the death of peak football Twitter and Blue Sky and all of those places not really picking up the mantle I have to say I'm really enjoying following the games along on the Stadio Discord good if you want to sign up for that and loads more go to patreon.com forward slash stadio friday's social club podcast will be a little bit more a little more detail on like what's coming up on the social club side of stuff so yes you want to join in time for that patreon.com forward slash stadio and uh yeah massive thanks to everyone who's signed up so far we really appreciate it potential bonus pod coming up because i'll be at the hamburg the first hamburg derby in the Bundesliga since 2011.

2:24Ryan Hunn: There have obviously been derbies in the second tier. What a game coming up. Very exciting about that. Some great fixtures actually out in the season, I've got to say. Coming in hot. We've been blessed. All right, so today we're going to talk about probably the biggest result of the week. And that's obviously... You can't do that. You can't. Well, we nearly had one. We nearly had it. No, we nearly had it. Yeah, we nearly had it, but we're not going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Grimsby's win over Manchester United on penalties in the Carabao Cup. We'll shout out a couple of other results, but we'll probably keep it fairly brief on the round-up side of things and talk more about the Grimsby-Manchester United situation.

3:05Ryan Hunn: And then, shorter than we'd planned, but we're going to talk a little bit about emotional transfers off the back of the Eberreche as a signing. So we'll touch on that a bit, and I think that'll do us for today. Yeah, sounds good. Do you keep hearing podcast ads, like this one, for example, but always wonder how you actually get involved with them for your own brand or organization? Well, it's easier than you think. We're Acast, and we give you the platform to do it all yourself. Browse thousands of popular podcasts, choose the shows that match your perfect audience, set your budget, and launch.

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3:54Ryan Hunn: But there is only one place to begin. There is, absolutely. And it is, of course, Stuttgart scraping through our penalties against Eintracht-Brownshag. Really? My goodness, we nearly had an upside. Hangover again, but really. They are the cup holders. They are the cup holders, but still. I can't believe you've done this. I can't believe you've done this. Grimsby fans, I'm sorry. Do you know what? They're probably tuning in. oh yeah let's check out Stadia we've heard things about them like oh no hey listen Grimsy fans count yourself lucky I didn't lead with Carl Zeiss Jain in his 4-0 win over Hurtis Eilandorf in the Reganale League in Nord-Ost do you know what you're the equivalent of you're the equivalent of years of silence from Andre 3000 and he releases a rap record with no bars on it that's what you are I was like oh my god Andre's gonna drop and it's like oh no here's my flute album here's my flute album that's what that's what your intros are there's only one place to begin this week we should release an instrumental podcast can you imagine or is it like john cage would just do like we'd release a podcast called 48 minutes 49 seconds it's me adjusting it's just silence anyway no of course we're going to go to grimsby grimsby town have eliminated manchester united from the carabao cup yeah after a 12 11 win on penalties unreal unreal which followed a two-all draw in normal time obviously Carabao Cup going straight to penalties Grimsby taking a lead after 22 minutes doubling their lead after half an hour and to be honest while if you looked at if you just looked at the game statistically in terms of the feel of the game and in terms of the balance of the game or the momentum of the game hard to say that they didn't deserve it really it felt like they had in short it felt like they got their shit together a hell of a lot quicker than Manchester United did.

5:47Do throughout. Look, the thing about this, and you talk about stats, so let's look at one. So George McEachran, right, didn't win a duel, but his pressure on the ball, this is the thing about a team that puts pressure on the ball collectively. It's not the first player that necessarily wins the ball, right? It's the player that forces you into a mistake. And the amount of mistakes that Grimsby forced Manchester United into, incredible. They played this 4-1-4-1. They pushed high and wide. They were extremely aggressive. They got the switches in. There was a lot of talk about United using a back five and all the rest of it.

6:20That's not the issue, actually. The issue is, if you're a step short to every single challenge, then collectively you will be overwhelmed. You will be absolutely overwhelmed. Grimsby, at one point, were pushed so far back that it could have been demoralising in the second half and they were tunnel up, you know, and there was pressure, United equalised late, and we'll go back into the game in a moment. but just in terms of the way they manage themselves you never once saw the body language um being despondent whereas manchester united you had situations where players players would lose the ball and the ball would still be in play and you'd have players complaining to the referee about decisions they didn't get felt very very heavy from the jump and it felt to be honest i didn't think i'd say this but it felt entitled yeah yeah it felt entitled and look and back to grimsby i don't want to sort of take anything away from them so back to them well let's go to

7:11Ryan Hunn: grimsby first and then we can talk about all the manchester united stuff after but yeah so the first thing was that um david artel said at the start of this game he said to his players um he wanted them to put themselves kind of on the map like in the shop window so he was like look this is a huge moment for all of you to get yourself seen and if you look at the players they all did that like it's difficult to pick a player of the game so i won't but for example look at the opening goal, the quality of the opening goal, which is probably the best moment of the match in terms of the quality of it all.

7:43They win possession, turn the ball over, and Dara Burns plays this stunning pass to the far post. And Vernon brings it down. I think there's a volley into the bottom corner, was striking to the bottom corner. And just the quality of the football Grimsby were playing, the transitions, the pressure on the ball again um the movement the intensity just just general intensity everything was just locked in and united look there wasn't a bad team they started i thought look i think it was a

8:15Ryan Hunn: complacent selection this is my main issue with the manchester united side of it i don't really understand and look i think we've been quite fair on ruben amarin since he's joined definitely willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in a lot of situations i know that this is a midweek game but they've got a home game on the weekend against a newly promoted side and I do not understand in a game that was so integral for momentum like this is this is I know we're only three games in but this was more important than the Arsenal game I think yes and to use this as an opportunity to rotate in that back line when you're trying to implement a system that has struggled for the personnel I think it was a massive wasted opportunity and they got themselves into trouble unnecessarily, I think.

9:02Poor Tyler Fredrickson. Tyler Fredrickson has played three games of senior football for Manchester United and the third came last night. Yeah, and then you get hooked at halftime. He was rotated, yes, he was rotated into a team that should have been looking to win this trophy. And the thing is, that selection, the amount of changes and the lack of chemistry in that selection, so some might say that there's expensive players on the pitch. I don't dispute that. I'm not saying they're not. What I'm saying is that this is a tournament that Manchester United should have been looking to win. And they put out that lineup with that many changes.

9:34And I just think from top to bottom, you know, Amirim said, my players are very loud today in his post-match interview, talking about the fact that the lack of intensity they showed spoke volumes is what he was saying. But by that same token, that selection against this Grimsby team, who started season quite well, this selection against the team that presses high that is just running non-stop that has creativity in several different areas there's a threat at set pieces starting that team against this Grimsby that we're going for it

10:08Ryan Hunn: let's switch it back to Grimsby because this is you've let me perfect onto this because I think that what they did really well was completely hit Manchester United at their point of weakness all of yeah absolutely and they did it repeatedly in the first half yeah totally Where did Manchester United rotate? They rotated in the central of midfield. For the Fulham game, it was Bruno Fernandes and Casemiro starting in that central midfield position. For the Arsenal game, again, Casemiro, Bruno Fernandes. So they took out Casemiro, they took out Bruno Fernandes in the middle. They put in Kobi Manu, who I actually think did okay.

10:41Ryan Hunn: And especially considering all of the noise around him, though, I think that was a weird time to all of a sudden start Kobi Manu. Manuel Ugarte started got taken off at half time for Bruno Finanj and then the three at the back Shaw De Ligt Yoro start against Arsenal Shaw De Ligt Yoro start against Fulham so taking out that central core of midfield and then the entire back three behind them adding in someone who's hardly played for Manchester United and and then Andre Onana who I think let's say was casual at best right and what Grimsby did was They identified that weakness straight away and they just repeatedly targeted Manchester United down the centre, crossing balls into the box, crowding the box, set pieces, putting people under pressure, defenders, goalkeepers, central midfield.

11:32Ryan Hunn: And they consistently caused Manchester United bother. That was a preview of today's episode of Stadio. If you want to join up for ad-free podcasts, extra podcasts, access to the Stadio Social Club and more, you can join us at patreon.com forward slash stadio.

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