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Stadio: A Football Podcast

20 Oct 2025 · 38m

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Man Utd win at Anfield, Postecoglou sacked and Bayern beat Dortmund

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In this episode, Musa and Ryan discuss key events from the weekend's football matches, focusing on Manchester United's victory against Liverpool at Anfield, the sacking of Ange Postecoglou as Nottingham Forest manager, and Bayern Munich's win over Borussia Dortmund.

Main points

  • Final Score: Liverpool 1 - 2 Manchester United
  • Significance:
  • First win for Manchester United at Anfield since 2016.
  • Ruben Amorim secured back-to-back league wins for the first time as United's manager.

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0:22hello and welcome back to the stadio podcast being broadcast half from an undisclosed work location I'm Musa Kwanga someone's got backed about league wins look at him straight in listen Amram's at the wheel oh my god and there go all the Liverpool listeners nice one Musa

0:43how are you Ryan? I'm good thanks how are you? I have got another cold conciliatory words Philippe of fans yeah another cold oh my god man oh my god he's got conciliatory words and another cold so I mean you know there you go Liverpool fans he's got it cold yeah yeah we hope everyone else is staying safe and well wherever you are a quick bit of admin Wednesday and Friday shows this week Moose is not here for the Wednesday one but we'll catch up on all the rest of the Champions League stuff together for the one that will go out on Friday morning tickets for the live show at the South Bank Centre in London December 4th link is in description the March show is also on sale if you want to get tickets nice and early for the March show if you're listening to us on the free feed if you want to listen to every single episode ad-free in full and go to patreon.com forward slash stadio sign up as a podcast member if you like or if you want to get all the podcasts as well as access to the stadio social club discord you can sign up there speaking of which shout out to everyone who met up for the first stadio social club meetups this weekend yes yes well i was at the london one so shout out to everyone who was at the london one it was great and we ended up actually watching fulham arsenal in the end because we're in the volley just by old street great place to watch football there were multiple screens on we kept hearing cheers from further down the bar and we couldn't figure out what it was turned out there was a load of torino fans in there oh yes are they a big win for them over napoli and a massive crew of hearts fans also torino fans very happy because event has lost to nil to como so they had a great weekend for them see who was at the como game no wild Capello Arsene Wenger Gattuso Thierry Omri obviously Raphael Varane loads of other people there loads of people Goats everywhere Goats everywhere oh my god but yeah anyway it was really really lovely shouts to everyone who was at the London one it was lovely to meet you all there were also Stadio Social Club meetups in New York City Seattle oh my god that's awesome and Philadelphia so there you go I'm gonna give a shout out to Atticus as well because I was doing an event I was doing a shout out to the Mad in Germany podcast I was on that recently with James Jackson and Atticus Thaddeus listener in Berlin was in the crowd for that was in the audience he wanted to do a meetup and I actually would not have been in town for it but I'm up for one very soon actually so yeah thanks so much Atticus for coming along so lovely he said hello yeah there was a few that were going to go ahead but all good it was just cool it was just nice to see a load of people came together were watching football it was awesome it was lovely so shouts to everyone who we met at the London one it was lovely to lovely to meet you all we'll do more of those soon I'm sure and we'll also do another Stadio Social Club Discord hangout soon as well.

3:20So yeah, if you want to sign up, get involved, patreon.com forward slash stadio. Today we're going to talk primarily about Liverpool against Manchester United in the Premier League. We're going to talk a bit about Ange Postacoglu being sacked before he'd even left the ground. And we will talk a bit about Bayern Dortmund and that might do us for today. That's plenty. Let's go to Anfield. Liverpool won, Manchester United 2. Manchester United recording their first win at Anfield since 2016. It's the first back-to-back league win that Ruben Amirim has achieved as Manchester United manager. Oh my God.

3:55I mean, yikes. It's been slim pickings out here. Slim pickings. So United taking the lead very, very early on in the first couple of minutes. Brian and Bumo with a goal. Great finish, actually. Yes. Great build-up from Bruno and Ahmed as well. yeah bit of controversy in the build up because yes Reggie Van Dijk Alexis McAllister and Brian Mbumo were all challenging for a header Van Dijk's elbow goes into McAllister's head McAllister drops down it actually looked quite bad initially I thought the way he just went down and stayed down it was clearly an injury Michael Oliver decided to play on and Manchester United broke and scored I thought Arnaz Slott actually addressed this fairly well afterwards he was asked about it in the post-match interview and he just said we have plenty of opportunities to score it doesn't matter that the game should have stopped and it doesn't matter that we could have had a penalty we had plenty of other you know I don't know whether it was a bit honest with you I think that's actually can I say it's funny because he anticipated or yeah you anticipate something I was going to say about Liverpool's performance big danger drawing the wrong conclusions from an adverse result yeah there's a lot of chances Liverpool could have put this away and should have and on a different day actually would have well should we start with the Manchester United side of things then move on to the Liverpool side of things.

5:06Let's go with the Manchester United positives. It's probably the best performance, I think, in the league since the Arsenal game. And tactically, Amarim, we've criticised him before, but he was absolutely spot on. I think tactically it was near perfect. I think he made the best choices he could have made with the available players. So specifically using Kunja up top, pressing high up the pitch, actually in his sort of Atleti role, Kunja ahead of Mbumo and Mason Mount and Ahmad coming up as a playmaker off one of the flanks worked superbly because Kunia retained the ball. There's like two or three occasions where he brought the ball out or retained it under severe pressure.

5:44It was almost like a Bernardo Silva in terms of the quick feet. Brilliant play from him as a defensive forward. Mbumo, who was just so confident, who just walked onto that pitch at Anfield and was like, like it was the Royal Opera House and he was like a soloist. He didn't care. He was completely unfazed by it. Bruno who tried a lot and will be criticized for using things that didn't come off but I actually thought he was very enterprising. I thought that his job was to pick the early pass. I thought he did that really, really well. I thought he picked the lock really well and I thought Ahmad who went off after an hour was possibly alongside you know, Buma and Bruno have to get the credit for like the playmaking aspects but in so many ways he was my favourite player.

6:22At one point he occupied three different positions. You found him up as a playmaker. You found him as a wingback doing conventional defensive work and also he was sweeping Like at one point he was almost the outball for Lammons, who I thought was great. And Lammons, the sense of calm he conveyed. My favourite moment that summed up Lammons was when, I think the whistle blows for a free kick, it was offside or something like that. And Sobber's like comes up to hammer the ball in the net and Lammons saves that as well. And like, he was that locked in that thing where like, no, you're not going to like get into the net.

6:49I love that energy. I love that energy. You know, when the whistle goes in the NBA and someone takes a practice shot and someone swaps it away. Yes, it's the Kevin Garnett thing. It's absolutely that energy. Yeah. So I thought that United, so well organised, De Ligt looked great. Luke Shaw had surprisingly good recovery speed. That was also some of the slow decision making by Liverpool forwards. Harry Maguire was excellent as well. I think he just works really well in the back three, as we've long known. Casemiro, very good. so yeah all in all I just thought a really really well coached United team and performance took the lead very early on managed the game well till half time and just the only thing I'll say the only wobbly period was Amad Diallo's yellow card and they made all those changes and I think he was a major outlet for them and when he went off for Dourgo it invited a lot of pressure but Dourgo I thought defensively did quite well I thought he did quite well defensively actually yeah I thought he was okay but also I think moving Diogo Dallo onto the other side I thought he was pretty solid as well in that position he's quite a good option I don't hate that switch from Ruben Amorim when you're protecting me neither I think he's shuffled the pack quite well don't get me wrong yeah the two key things in the first half for me I thought apart from the Manchester United goal obviously was the first time Gakpo hits the post because that shot where he just cuts across it happened in almost like a split second yeah all of a sudden Liverpool just cut through Manchester United and they were away and it was like whoa okay they can hit you on the break the other one was the pass from Canate and Alexander Izzap makes the run off the back of Luke Shaw.

8:14And it seemed to be way too easy. And I think the finishing from Izak, I was expecting that to be... Indecisive though. There's a lack of confidence there, I think. I think fair play to Lomans. I think he did something really interesting. On commentary, they mentioned that he should have come out. And actually, I think Izak is probably expecting to look up and see a keeper coming at him to make it easier. And I think, maybe I'm giving him too much credit here, but I wondered if that was a deliberate decision to actually stay and kind of like get set because the angle wasn't unbelievable because I think a lot of goalkeepers especially new into their career at a club like Manchester United could have come out and maybe like you know maybe I'm looking way too much into it I just thought that was quite an interesting moment he looks really confident he looks like the kind of goalkeeper quite calm as well he looks like the kind of goalkeeper who is almost like no I'm going to make you make a decision yeah think about coming out from your line if you're not confident whether you stay or go as a goalkeeper it's really about what choices am I making the striker make and Isak is not high on confidence at the moment and making him think is something that is absolutely we know that the elite shot stoppers through it and look it's too early to say that Lamens will be a truly shot stopper but he look at the first couple of games I've seen him for United he's brought such an impressive sense of calm and the players seem to appreciate that too they seem to warm from that I mean they love Donal and he was very pop in the dressing room.

9:38And I also think it's fair to say, I think two things can be true. I think that this guy takes him up a level. I really think he does. Yeah. I mean, the second half, we're chatting during the game, weren't we, when that round of substitutions got made around about the hour mark. So within the space of a few minutes, Manchester United made a triple substitution. Shesko, Dogu, Ugarte on for Casemiro, Ahmad and Mason Mount. And then Liverpool respond with bringing on Curtis Jones, Florian Witts, Hugo Eketike for Connor Bradley Alexis McAllister and Ryan Graham and I was just like whatever is happening right now this is going to be a mega fun last half hour because it looked like Liverpool went to a 4-2-4 Manchester United were just like okay we're going to have to absorb all of this pressure and there was just no way that they were going to hold out there was no way in a million years and I did have a moment we were talking about this in the Stadio Discord where I was just a bit like I don't want to be that guy yes and then he said went ahead and did it I'm just so glad that my team is not involved in the football match because it was a total onslaught like from that last half hour yeah 10 minutes later Liverpool bring on Chiesa for Alexander Izak he laid on the assist for Cody Gatpo yes great hesitation by Viz the ball broke to him in the box and he played a lovely sort of pass into the into the corner I thought he was very good yeah and his best contributions don't get on the stat sheet and this is going to be a thing unfortunately for him Social media being what it is, he'll get torn apart.

11:06And look, at some point it will all click. And I think actually, in a funny way, as good today for it to click as any, just because there was some very loose finishing from Liverpool. Gakpo missing a couple, but also Mo Salah. Mo Salah, like, you know, slashing one wide, which Mo Salah at his best just puts that away, no problem. So I think the best way to look at this from Liverpool's perspective is, look, it is a fourth straight loss. That's true. And Eintracht is not the easiest game to have next. It's not the easiest fixture. But at the same time, the chance generation is there. You just have to have faith it will come.

11:35and then once it comes they're still not that far back in the league yes they've lost three someone said Sunderland lost fewer games than Liverpool but that was a bit of a stray at Sunderland because Sunderland have actually just been really good this year so like no shade on them they're playing really well and it's a tight Sunderland with the kind of like what the fuck exactly why am I catching a stray exactly like the table's tight at the top man it's tight at the top and also as well like you know there was nothing about once Liverpool equalised I really thought they were going to go on and win actually if you'd said to me if you said who's going to win I would not have said United it didn't feel like they were on the cards to go and do that if you were going to take one single thing out of this game from you know if you said to from a Manchester United perspective what is the single you can have one positive from this game what is it I think it's the response after Liverpool equalise yeah yeah because having been ahead for so long in the game it would have been so easy for United just to be like you know not again kind of thing and the response not necessarily from a tactical point of view because I don't think there was a huge amount going on at that point for either side really.

12:38I think it was just very much like Liverpool were attacking, Manchester United were defending. A lot of the time when they just hit like dead balls out and just for a bit of reprieve really, there wasn't a huge amount going on. When Manchester United finally got something to click, the technical level of Bruno Fernandes just to like one touch that cross back in. It's an unbelievable cross. That single decision not to just take a touch and control it creates that goal. Because I don't think people are expecting that to come straight back in. No, not at all. People are getting ready to think that.

13:10Yeah, it's not, and not a lot of players would have done that. No. He was criticised all game for playing that kind of pass. But that's why he's so good because he takes, it's a high risk thing. That's the kind of pass that most people slash into the sands that doesn't hit the target. But I think weirdly enough, the goal, the equaliser almost liberated United because they've been so on their heels that when they scored Liverpool, it was almost a relief it was like that was going to happen at some point get out of the way and then push on and actually funnily enough because Liverpool have added so many new pieces I thought United had a greater attack and cohesion actually between those players Kunio knew exactly what his job was Mbumo was brilliant I mean just the confidence of it's an underrated thing but players that just really really want to be there like for Mbumo being United is it's the peak of his career it's his final destination he's not looking beyond United The same for Amadialo, right?

14:04And maybe the same for Cunha as well. This is like their final destination. So when you look at that, you're like, these are players who it's there. They want to make the name here. And you can include someone like a Mason Mount in that. Mason Mount was to prove himself at United, really committed to get fit again. And the way he talks, all the way he's talking, like he's really keen to make a name here. And Bruno too, who will go down as a United legend, he's clearly thrown in his lot with, okay, you know, I may not get the biggest trophy cabinet, but I'll get memories and be able to say I built something.

14:29and for Bruno Finanje to come back and have this after the 7-0 defeat if you think of that arc you know to be at Anfield before and be utterly humiliated there are other players in that team too to come back to Anfield and deliver a result like that a performance like that it's incredible show of a sporting character it's incredible absolute Hall of Fame knee slide from Harry Maguire by the way ha ha ha ha yes he stood on business he kneeled on he slid on business that man has heard everything he's heard and seen every single meme did you see his post-match interview when he was talking about um i'll paraphrase but he said something of the equivalent of you know we remember goals like the winning goals here and he name-checked a couple he was like you know i remember wayne's goal and then he said uh you know and we've and we see them right so hopefully in a few years people will be watching this when they have the game away yeah love that and he said he said i've been here seven years i've never won at anfield and wow we know where we are though it was almost like look we know we've done a really good thing and we should enjoy it but also it was it was almost like he was trying to put a point across to be like look we know where we're at yeah we're not going to get carried away because of this result and striking this balance of look this is a great result it was one of the most self-aware united performances i've seen in a long time everyone having a specific role and the reason i mentioned kunya in that particular role i thought he was great was that he didn't score in his last season at letty but he did a lot of dirty work he did a lot of running and like a lot of thankless work but i think that's the thing that the thing i love about this united sort of front line is they they all enjoy putting in that shift and it's almost an element of we're not at that level and we know how much we've got to do to get back there and there's almost i would say a humility there i thought seshka was quite good when he came as well i thought it was right to start with kunya absolutely uh and they shuffled the pack kunya obviously stayed in when seshka stayed on but i liked that i liked the moves they made but for him to come on and contribute I thought fairly well to this victory there's a couple of places decisions can be better but fundamentally thought he's still quite good just what that means as United player to be you know what it's been a terrible few years we're rebuilding I'm going to do that with a bit of humility let's not get ahead of ourselves but I feel like there's something good to come and I think specifically in terms of a transfer hires if United could recruit one really really good attacking fullback or wingback I think you see a big shift in their performances, actually.

16:53Yeah, I think they also need another needle shift for a midfield. But I think they've got enough personnel there now who, we'll put it this way, I think for many years they've had the personnel there, but they've had this inability to remotely operate at the sum of their parts or more than. I do wonder whether the three-year thing from Ratcliffe, just quieting down all of that stuff. That was really good, you know. In the lead-up to the game, there wasn't any talk about Ruman Amirim at all. If they lose this game, what does that mean? it's just it has quietened down all of that stuff if he can get this this team operating at just the sum of its parts it will be fine yeah yeah but yeah i thought they were really good man probably the best i've seen him since the arsenal game but they have to they have to get a result against brian next week and and amurum actually said afterwards he was just like i'm kind of thinking about brian already and they were like oh come on man like and he's just like no no he's right no he's like you have to you have to this this game is massive and if they can go three games in a row then we're just two games away from the United Strand guy getting his haircut and that is that's motivation that's motivation enough it is it is for sure for sure right are we going to talk about the Liverpool side of it now yes of course yes yes for sure Liverpool are in this are in this moment where they'll come out of it and they'll be fine but all of those little things that were going right last season yeah aren't going for them this year you know I think for example there were a lot of games last season where they weren't necessarily unbelievable, but they got a little bit of luck here and there.

18:22They got a moment of quality and all of that adds up and accumulates and you just kind of feel like there's an inevitable sense that you're going to win or you're going to get a goal when you need to. We talked about it before, right? When the aura goes, people can really pile on. Every time that, each one of those defeats, I think it's really, really hard to wrestle out of that kind of slumping morale. And I think they haven't got to get out of jail. They haven't got Mo Salah being lights out. which I think is another factor in that like where he scored 3-11 in all competitions that is a good return for almost any other forward but not for him a lot of things have gone wrong at once they're struggling for midfield chemistry at times Sabas Lai's been at right back because the right back experiment hasn't necessarily worked with Frimpong all the time Bradley's come in and out he wasn't entirely convincing Kerkers has struggled at left back a lot is being asked of him in that role it's a difficult adjustment for him and it's a big step up as well like we saw when Harry Kuhl went from Leeds to Liverpool and actually was just he was good he wasn't poor but it wasn't he didn't kick on because it's a different spotlight when you're at Liverpool and I think that is a factor as well Leeds Act 2 like there's Eketike there's so much expectation on so many players at once and when Van Dijk came out and said after a couple losses in a row like don't panic that advice still applies it made a lot more people pay attention to what they thought was a crisis.

19:47It's not a crisis. They can still pull this back. But I just think it will take a bit of patience. And in the rapid cycle nature, new cycle nature of modern football, then they won't get that time. So this will be declared as a crisis. It will be. There's no avoiding that. But like Van Dijk said in the post-match, a player like this, it's going to come good. I still think, even with everything they've suffered and been through, I still think it's Arsenal and City and then them at the lead of the chasing pack. I still think with everything, I still think Liverpool will end up, I would say they still are the team I think will come probably third because I just think that Arsenal and City are just, whatever order those two finish, I think they're still the ones for me, the front runners, but Liverpool will figure it out.

20:31I don't have any doubt about that. Yeah, I agree. At the moment, Bournemouth are third. They could have been top for a bit and they could have ended the weekend second. They were top at one point, yeah. They were top of the table because they were game ahead. They drew three all the way at Palace in an amazing game of football. absolute banger yeah Jean-Philippe Mateta hat-trick unreal penalty in stoppage time at the end of the game to secure a 3-0 draw for them Bournemouth third in the table you're able to coach in the lights out yeah after a very ropey start to the season Villa have now gone 6 unbeaten in the league they beat Spurs away on Sunday in the early kick-off on Sunday two great goals for Villa actually the Morgan Rodgers goal was amazing and I think caught Vicario on the hop a little bit actually a great great few days for Morgan Rodgers as well still they're finding his place as England's 10 in Bellingham's absence.

21:18Yeah, yeah. But the second goal for Villa, the winner was amazing. The Buendia goal. The whole sequence of play was like kind of wild. It looked like playing EAFC. Do you think that like Villa are like, it's too early. Do you think they're clicking again? I don't know. Let's just stop talking about it. Maybe you'll creep up. They're only seven points off top. Arsenal are still top. Yeah, a good win over Fulham, that. Yeah, I mean, Arsenal are doing quite a good job this season of correcting the games that they came unstuck in last season. That's the first time they've won at Fulham in a few years.

21:52They drew last year. They lost the year before. They lost to West Ham, obviously, last year as well. They're just correcting those results. All you can do, it doesn't have to be super fluid. They're going to be games that aren't going to be like that. And just defensively, Arsenal look kind of another level above everyone else at the moment. A shout-out to Calafiore's unbelievably spiritually onside goal. away. I didn't see that. They should have just let that count. It was incredible. It was absolutely incredible. And shout out to everyone who decided to hit us up being like, Spirit's on side.

22:26City a second. Two more for Haaland. Yes. He now occupies the top three in the all-time Premier League fastest to 10 goals in a season spots. He's got 11 and 8, I think, is it? Wild. Jesus he's on like a low-key like unbelievable run again yeah yeah unbelievable from Haaland other shout outs very very quickly before we talk about the the and stuff great win for Brighton over Newcastle 2-1 Danny Welbeck Danny Welbeck brace two really nice two lovely finishers elsewhere good win for Burnley yeah oh my god the second the second goal for Burnley absolute heat seeker incredible Chouna with an absolute banger from distance it's 25-30 yards and just lined up and laced it.

23:11Sunderland, yeah, the great win for them as well. 2-0. Chelsea being Forrest 3-0 in the early kickoff on Saturday. This is weird. It felt like the 3-0 that Forrest had against West Ham where actually, like, Forrest had a really good run of it until late and just crumbled late. Almost like a carbon copy. Like, Forrest had a lot of really, really good chances in this match and eventually just Chelsea pulling away. Yeah. Couldn't hang with them. Tricky weekend for the underlying numbers fans. Very much so. But, another red card for Chelsea, Gusto got sent off right at the end to keep up the record.

23:43Maresco was literally in the stands serving his band for his red card. Red cards galore. Gusto arriving in the stands and Maresco going, first time. The 3-0 defeat to Chelsea cost Ang Postacoglu his job. He was fired, what, 20 minutes after the final whistle, basically? Absolutely wild. Was it 39 days in charge? Doomed from the start, I think it's fair to say. yeah a really weird one i think i mean a tough job i don't i think it was unwise for him to take that job anyway i know him he like him and maranacas know each other i think there's a thing in football managers which may maybe we just don't fully appreciate in that they will look at a situation that from the outside will look quite chaotic and be like i can fix this i'm the person for the job what if i'm the person who you know turns this around right there are just some jobs that don't really seem a fit and especially after what happened with postocoglu and spurs i personally felt like it was quite soon for him to come back yeah way too soon in that kind of job i must admit i thought he was more self-aware than that than take that job because it meant he never got to enjoy the luster this is the problem he has now right he had the luster of the europa league win he had that right he had that shine and he didn't let that sit he reminds you're like one of these musicians that rushes out like an unfinished album too soon after the last banger just to stay there you need to sometimes sit with your success like you're a europa league winner and then you go and do a job like this you go well he was still in the last album cycle he didn't need to drop let me put it better you go you not do a job like this you go into a job like this the forest job is a very very specific role like even to the point where they're when they're linking roberto mancini with it i don't know if that's a good fit to be honest with you.

25:36I'm not convinced by that because I'm not convinced that Mancini will not get frustrated with the variable quality of player in that squad. Like I worry about that. I worry about what Mancini will do in that environment if he does get appointed. I'm not completely convinced of it. I think that something, there's a certain humility of approach that you need to bring to the Forest job. And if you don't bring that, you're in big trouble. And that team has been set up to play such a specific way. It didn't need a huge amount of change actually. Like they brought a lot of players in in the summer and the problem with that is it now puts a target on your back because people are going in terms of what forest achieving on the field they had a lot i think of respect a lot of love you bring in a lot of players then all of a sudden there's the expectation that goes up from not only within the club but outside the club and i think that nuno if he'd not fallen out with edu i think it's what's a moot point now but nuno was evolving and i still believe he was the right person to help that squad evolve i still believe that yeah I agree I think with Forrest it's I think everyone likes seeing a former powerhouse you know like a really historic club who's had historic success you know they won back-to-back European Cups to see a club like that get back into Europe but I think people like seeing clubs that have had success historically climb back up again yeah yeah with the Forrest thing now though if you look at the kind of managers that they've been linked with going from Nuno to Postacoglu to then thinking about Daesh or Mancini these are all different very different managers what are you trying to do and so I mean we'll talk about who they appoint when they appoint them but from the Postacoglu side of it he literally didn't win a game but he also had like a few really tricky games in there like he only had a few home games there was a lot of tricky away games in there and he knew the calendar avoided the job yeah he did but what i'm saying is yeah i don't think any manager should be a manager at a football club for 39 days you shouldn't yeah well i think if that happens it's a failure on the part of the person appointing them if the fit is if the fit is that bad from the very beginning and everyone was concerned about it from the start well most people concerned about it it just all feels like a bit of a shame really yeah you still have a lot of the season to go and look maybe it's the right decision that they'll just bring someone in and they'll fly up the table but in to put it into perspective it's october and they are four points behind newcastle united i mean it's not the worst place to be the direction of travel for them it can be turned around but they had to do i mean they had they had to unfortunately had to part ways because they could really plummet this is a league where you know it's a stacked league at this point there's a lot of quality in forest certainly not immune to going down and they've got real quality that squad look at someone like an elliot anderson they've got great quality and they've got great quality still to come off the bench you know mecca tears in the mix as well and the right i think the right coach galvanizes them the question is who is this coach yeah yeah yeah we'll see we'll see all right man let's uh you're fighting for your life so let's just do the the buy-in dortmund game quick and then get out of here.

28:47Yeah, I'm sorry, God, I'm really struggling. Very much a game of two halves. Bayern beating Dortmund 2-1 at the Allianz Arena on Saturday evening. But kind of feels like one of those results that even in defeat Dortmund can actually take quite a lot of positives from this. Feels like it. It feels rare that a defeat to Bayern can be taken with some positives because usually it's like a thumping. Yeah, it wasn't though. Bayern could have been out of sight at half-time, though. That's the issue for Kovac. But I think they they brought on Ben Zabaini from Nicholas Sula at half time and instantly just looked a little bit better in the second half created a bit more Ben Zabaini gives you that yeah yeah yeah comes forward well from deep Kane again it's almost like he read Serb Staffer Blore's essay about him his playmaking from deep in the early stages was spectacular even more interesting the fact that they started Nicholas Jackson because Serge Gnabry was injured and it was almost like more that Harry Kane was playing the Serge Gnabry role I felt like Jackson didn't quite get in sync I think, look, it's a difficult assignment.

29:48I felt like he worked hard, but I think he still needs to get the reps. That will come. I think he's a really good outlet, a really good fall in terms of his speed and his movement. What was impressive about Kane was just, I actually found a good video to share with people. It was when in 1992, Marco Van Basten plays against Fiorentina for AC Milan. They win 7-3 and he has like three assists and two goals. And Kane is pretty much the incarnation of Van Basten in this game. Going deep and being the outball, but dribbling on the edge of his box. like playing out of the press. That is something that I was not expecting from a nine at this stage of his career.

30:21Him and Elisa looked really good in combination again. Elisa maybe could have got one early on. And in the first half, Bayern just looked superb. And actually, it's not often you can say that a team like Bayern are brave tactically, but they are tactically brave. In the traditions of the best ball-playing teams, they try to attack from deep and they expose themselves to risk while doing so. and actually if the Dortmund press was slightly more attentive on a couple of occasions there was a thing they do where they have Connie Lima play in field for Kane to play up and a couple of times I'm like actually it's kind of clear what they're doing and you haven't really clamped onto that and I'm sure Kovac had his reasons but I felt there was slightly more joy to be had attacking Bayern at the base of their playmaking function but second half actually I thought Dortmund came at it really well I mean Brand had a late cameo and looked great, scored Great finish straight away, yeah straight away after coming on.

31:14Yeah, Bellingham really unfortunate. I mean, getting the ball tangled under his foot. It looks bad. It looks worse than I think that it is. Alisa coming in and getting a goal that he deserved his efforts. Dortmund very much could have got out there with a point. I think both teams can take big positives from this, actually. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, that's the headline I would say. Both teams take positives despite the Dortmund loss. It allowed Leipzig to go second. They beat Haas-Fau 2-1. Actually, Leipzig are putting together, they've put together really impressive runs since the defeat to Bayern early on, which I thought they looked all over the place for that Bayern game.

31:47Yeah, yeah, they were. They've actually got it together. They've only conceded three goals since and one of those was in the draw against Dortmund last week. So that's twice, like two games in a row that Dortmund dropped points and it's allowed Leipzig to go up to second. Stuttgart had four wins in a row. They beat Wolfsburg away and they're in third now. Leverkusen climbing back up the table. Chaotic 4-3 over Mainz. Still just that one win, defeat this season, in the first game of the season. St. Pauli with a bad defeat to Hoffenheim yeah St. Pauli are on a real slide they've lost 4-0 now they started the season so well and yeah not been good enough not great shout out to Union though who got a much needed win this weekend they beat Gladbach 3-1 on Friday night and Doki with a couple there and also shout out to Union Frauen they had a cooking both home games this weekend at the first try they beat Leipzig 5-0 at the first to write on Sunday.

32:43It was kind of huge for them because they'd lost back-to-back games in the Frauenbundersliga. Just quickly on the Frauenbundersliga, Bayern beating Koen 5-1, but it looks like really bad news. It looks like Lena Oberdorf may have another serious knee injury. It looks she was taken off. I haven't heard anything yet, but I saw a lot of people saying that they fear it's another ACL, but I don't want to like it. Oh, God. God, well, she's been through already. I mean, considering she only made her Bayern debut about a month ago after suffering the ACL last season when she moved there so yeah just hoping that's nothing too serious anything else you want to cover?

33:19Very quickly La Liga I suppose Guadalupe goals and red cards Mbappe with the winner very very late on for Real to keep pace with Barcelona up near the top of the table late winner for him and two reds for Guadalupe and Barcelona with a 2-1 win over Girona Pedri with the opener and then Araujo with a very very late winner. 95th minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big win for them. I suppose that's the big headline in terms of their resilience. Rashford looking good and Hansi Flick really, well, let me rephrase that. They really, really believe in Marcus Rashford. And in this game, it was almost a microcosm of his career at Barcelona so far, like on the verge of a breakthrough.

33:58Obviously he had the great, you know, the great brace against Newcastle, but it felt like La Liga, he still has to catch fire, but there's a lot of belief in him. But yeah, again, another Pedri masterclass what more can we say yeah Betis had a late equaliser against Villarreal had to draw 2-0 still 5th Atleti 1-0 win over Rossosun as well so Real Madrid top by 2 points Barca 2nd Villarreal still 3rd Atleti 4th Betis 5th Espanyol 6 I reckon that'll do us for today huh you're struggling with a cold so we're going to let you go this has been long enough I'm so sorry man you're not here on the next one but you're health's depending you'll be back on Friday I'll be back I'll be back but yeah that'll do us for today so let's get out of here we hope everyone is staying safe and well wherever you are don't forget if you want to sign up for the Stadio Patreon go to patreon.com forward slash Stadio and don't forget to check the Stadio Archers place on Spotify speaking of which playing out on guest site always knew by Love Apple anything you would like to add Musa or Kwon Go nothing further alright everyone much love have a great week we'll be back with you on Wednesday see you then or not haha

35:16I always knew yes I always knew yes I always knew Yes, I always do I thought someday I would forget About you and how we met But you haunt me night and day Though I've tried so hard to stay away It's always blue, it's always blue

36:17I see those warm brown eyes That make me feel so alive When you look into our very soul It's so hard to be distant or cold It's always new It's always new It's always new It's always new It's always new No matter what I do or where I turn, the thoughts of you make me young. You haunt and tease me, I know I'll never be free of watching you, of loving you, but this I always do. It's always you

37:23It's always you It's always you It's always you It's always you I'm like a fish that's on a hook My love for you is like an oboe The more I try to break away I keep convicting myself to stay It's always new It's always new It's always new It's always new It's always new

From the publisher

Manchester United have won at Anfield! Musa and Ryan recap Ruben Amorim winning back to back games league games for the first time since his arrival at Old Trafford, thanks to an early Bryan Mbuemo goal and a late Harry Maguire winner. They also wrap up the rest of the Premier League, before chatting about Ange Postecoglou being sacked as Nottingham Forest manager (23:53), Bayern beating Dortmund (28:40) and a few other results from the weekend.

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