The big Man City and Arsenal talk

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2:14hello and welcome back to the stadio podcast i'm iso kwanga i'm ryan hun Ryan,

2:20Ryan Hunn: I hesitate to ask how you're doing I'm doing great man I'm doing really really great I had a very very genuinely wonderful probably top 5 all time live footballing moment on the weekend I don't think we mentioned it on the show last Monday but we mentioned it on the Patreon show on Thursday but I was at the Copa del Rey final on Saturday which looked incredible it was honestly good for the soul just incredible we're gonna we're gonna talk about it a little bit today but um yeah actually while we'll talk about a bit before we get into the other stuff uh before we get into the admin can you just give us like a sense of it like just wandering up what was it like just to wander up there and for people who want to listen to more about the copy of the re we're going to do it as a show on patreon so we're going to do three shows uh this week two on patreon the next one on patreon will go up wednesday and it's going to be really really focused on the copy of the re final because it was a massive deal for El Sociedad anyway and the game itself was kind of incredible yeah I want to talk more about the experience and stuff like that so we're going to do that as a separate show because otherwise I think today's show would have been about three hours long and unfortunately you have to run for a train but yeah I mean to be honest it was it was quite last minute because I wasn't sure if I was going to get accreditation or not so I managed to get in Saturday lunchtime.

3:43Ryan Hunn: Was kind of in the Atleti part of town accidentally. It turned out a few blocks away in one of the squares was where most of the Atleti fans were congregating. And so I actually walked up to the stadium pretty much with all of the Atleti fans. But then I walked back with the Real Saucidad fans. So it was quite nice. Amazing. Yeah. One thing I will say because it was really, really lovely and it stuck in my head and I don't want to forget to mention it. So I think I'll mention it now. But on the way out, so I was walking with all the Real Sociedad fans out of the stadium just one Atleti fan old guy no way say probably like late 70s maybe early 80s even in his Atleti shirt and he stood there clearly waiting for someone or whatever he was fine like but all of the Real Sociedad fans were walking past and he was he basically just started congratulating them all no and it was really wholesome he was going Opa La Real Opa La Real and there was a woman who was there with her son and she started to respond to the old guy being like Opa Opa oh oh oh this is obviously like kind of come on like congratulations that kind of thing it just created a really nice moment with everyone who was walking out of the stadium I I'm can I say we'll talk about this more obviously on the next one but I'm so happy for Real Sociedad fans yeah me too just because of what they built the last few years we always talked about them needing like a bit more in the trophy cabinet do justice to these years and now with these two coppers in six years suddenly can't stop winning two coppers very different games Ojo Tharbo scored an all six finals for Real Sociedad and Spain worth pointing out first Copa del Rey well first major trophy in front of fans since 1987 incredible because the 2020 Copa was a was a COVID one so unreal unreal and Pellegrino Matarazzo first American manager to win a major trophy in one of Europe's top five men's leagues I love that for him I love that for him and yeah I mean we will we will give him loads of props but yeah I think we'll do that as a separate Patreon show because we want to really just talk about the experience of being there because I've never been to a Copa del Rey final I've never actually been to a men's cup final yeah you've been to a Pokal final oh yes oh yes Kaiserslautern wow Kaiserslautern fans are going to be like you know actually yeah come at me you won't find me they actually won't actually to be honest this is all the actually funny thing that's just funny thing before I forget I was we were in Spain at the same time but I was I was in Barcelona oh yeah you were Because I was at this global progressive mobilisation thing, which is super cool.

6:13Like, it's a political thing. It's quite fun. I was at the football. I was there. I was thinking about moderating a panel. Woke nonsense. And then I was, more woke nonsense, then I was in Bristol for this, oh my God, the Bristol City Proactory Slam Championship, which I was just hosting last night. Dude. Not hosting, sorry, judging. 200 people in this, like, venue, Arnolfini Arts Centre in Bristol. The place went off. man. It was like, yeah, that was incredible. It was incredible. See, I was thinking poetry, poetry and politics of the weekend.

6:44Ryan Hunn: I'm just glad I got to enjoy some football this weekend because my team, unfortunately, they are kind of going through it at the moment, but we will talk about that. However, let's do some admin very quickly. First of all, we hope everyone's staying safe and well, wherever you are. And you were on First Touch, one of Kickback Soccer's weekly podcasts last week with David Gass make sure you check out kickbacksoccer.com for some stuff that we're doing with them, Moosa was on a podcast last week, I think I'm on one this week also I think there's going to be a newsletter going out on Patreon this week, you get access to that if you sign up at patreon.com forward slash stadio if you haven't signed up already and there's going to be a Stadio Social Club Discord hangout this coming Saturday so if you want to sign up as a Stadio Social Club member you can also do that at patreon.com forward slash stadio, you get access to the Stadio Social Club Discord, merch discounts all kinds of other perks and obviously all the podcasts ad free in full which you also get if you want to sign up just as a podcast member so I think that's all the admin oh sorry merch is out it's on the way out to you if it hasn't arrived already so keep an eye out for that and tag us in your pictures of the merch Stadio Football on Instagram we'll have some more bits going out from the Copper Del Rey final on socials this week as well so I think that is all the admin two extra shows this week on Patreon if you want to get those you know what to do so today we are going to talk about the Premier League we are predominantly and we will also shout out a couple of other bits including Bayern winning the league yes Bayern closed the title on the weekend but also we should shout out Coventry Coventry went up yes huge congratulations back to the Premier League they've been on yeah yeah three draws in a row and they managed to managed to get it over the line do you know what welcome back but also look shout out to Bromley as well Bromley are trying to struggling to get up you know just it's the final ascent hey maybe it's the maybe it's the year of the struggle you know it is it's just those final few points because everyone as well like in Bromley's defence like they're playing teams at the top of the league as well it's just one of those ones isn't it like the margins are so tight at the top so well that's obviously the theme of this podcast today thoughts with all teams going through it at the top of their leagues but congratulations commentary yes huge congratulations back in the Premier League next season yes remember to hydrate everyone it's going to be it's going to be a long week I suspect Perfect.

9:00Long week of celebration.

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9:28right shall we start at the etihad yes let's do it manchester city 2 arsenal 1 good game of football

9:38Ryan Hunn: i thought a very good game of football do you know what i actually think this was a better game than i expected it to be far better yeah yeah well certainly i think look i think given the conversation the discourse around the game given how tight i expected it all to be the two teams came out and really played football actually they really played football and you know my sort of um immediate take on this i was you know talking about this in the chat with everyone was just really this was a very very good game of football won by the marginally better team and this absolutely if you're talking about a title contest the decisive contest i don't think it was decisive because again, still a few games to go.

10:18But in terms of an actual game, you couldn't fault it for quality and genuine intrigue to the point where the football was so good. And I have to sort of put a point in that and say that because I'm worried that that will get lost in the conversation. And I can say this as well, categorically, this is not a game where Arsenal, quote to quote, bottled it or choked it. This was simply a game where City brought it, Arsenal also brought it, and players that were criticized before the game was not being capable of bringing it really showed up. But for the margin of really a couple of inches here or there, it's a very different outcome.

10:55Yeah.

10:56Ryan Hunn: Yeah, I thought City started very positively. I thought so, yeah. Initially in that first couple of minutes, it looked like, I was like, oh no, is this going to be one of those days? Because I had to follow the first 25 minutes or so just online to watch the game in full back because I was traveling. and just following the updates I was just like oh god this looks this looks bad watching the game back I think what was really interesting was well first of all I think from an Arsenal point of view the team selection one of the strongest teams that Arsenal have been able to field for a while I thought that was evident in how much better they looked just as and how much more cohesive they looked how much more fluid they looked they handled City fairly well until the goal which was unbelievable from Ryan Cherokee goodness that it's just an unbelievable goal it was so much like Eden Hazard like that you can okay look the thing is you can't you actually can't tackle a player that good in that situation without fouling them because the ball is kept so close I would say that interesting enough so looking at this team looking at the whole game just of stepping back from it I loved the City selection I thought it was the best possible it's probably it's pretty much the team that Pep would have wanted to field just because of the options it gives you.

12:13I thought that Doku was superb with the ball carrying. Semenya, just a center of gravity, someone you can't sort of get away from. You have to like pay him attention. I thought Arsenal were hindered in terms of their fullbacks because those fullbacks are not the most. I mean, Hinkapie, very good player, but in an attacking brief, it's not his primary thing, which is fine. But he's not someone that bombs on like a Califiori. That's fine. It's not his game. And then Mosquera basically is a center back who filled in very well at right back. but I think it's a bit like when Masraoui plays in the right for Manchester United.

12:42He doesn't give you so much attacking thrust, which is fine, but that's because you're missing Timber. And Timber's absence, Arsenal missing Timber and Saka, I know people don't want to hear this, but Timber and Saka missing down that right flank is absolutely huge. Because then you're forced into a position that is fundamentally a defensive crouch. I thought, and it may not get the full take on this because it'll be lost in the discourse. Declan Rice was doing exceptional things in defence. there was a time when it felt like it felt like one of those spy movies where like o'reilly is like the spy and declan rice is the only detective who can see him do you know what just on o'reilly

13:21Ryan Hunn: very quickly massive plus that he passed the fitness test and could play because last week he looked like he was gonna be out he was immense and he lasted 90 minutes as well which i was really surprised about not only the past that um led to the hall and goal but some of the passing he was playing the thing about Nico Ryder I just want to quickly say this his performance not only driving forward not only escaping the press with beautiful touches and spins but there was a pass that he played in the first half is he threads this 20 yard ball diagonal infield and Rice is the only one that sees it and cuts out with a sliding tackle and it's like no back lift total disguise and I'm like this guy's passing range is like he's a total unicorn in the terms of English football I cannot remember a player like that, of that profile.

14:10Well, Jenny, I was saying in the chat to you guys, I think he has the potential to be world-class in five different positions. Left wing, left back, DM, attacking mid, and a 10. I think as a world-class player, and not like one where he has to play as a DM for a whole season to be world-class. I think he can drop in and do like a world-class drop at DM before games and then switch to left back because I think his tactical intelligence is off the scale. And so much of this first half, I think, was typified by City trying to pick the lock and Arsenal seeing it and shutting it down. And I suppose from an Arsenal perspective, the one frustration, I think, the goal comes when they've kind of seen out a bit of the threat.

14:51Ryan Hunn: Yeah, I was going to say, it felt like it came at Arsenal's best moment in the early period of that game. Do you know, I think the goal came though, funnily enough, because Arsenal had defended City's buildup and systems. It was not going to be a team goal that broke down Arsenal's defence. It was going to be an individual goal because I think that Arsenal were actually, they had worked at the City attacking system. They were like, okay, well, we're anticipating, we're covering spaces. So, Cherki had to go rogue, right? And what I think, and this is to Cherki's credit and City fans listening, so I hope they can see this, like the speed at which Cherki has adjusted.

15:28to the Premier League. Oh, which is not, it is extraordinary. The second half of the season for him especially has been incredible. Look, Reinders has struggled after a really good start. Obviously, Florian Vietz has struggled to find these pockets. Cherki has come in and is having the time of his life. You know, it's wild from a city point of view.

15:47Ryan Hunn: If you look at that bench, like, oh, Mahmoud Moush didn't get off the bench. Wow. You think how high profile that signing was, what, a year or so ago when he came in. Mahmoud Moush would start, could Marmouche could start for most top European sides yeah yeah yeah like him and he's a game maker Eintracht were the pair that everyone was after yep yep so I think I think when when Cherky came in and he had periods in and out of the team and there was obviously I think I think there is a big especially when you're a game breaker like he is I think there is a big adjustment to make I think the single biggest adjustment for players in that position to make in the Premier League is just figuring out defensive patterns.

16:33Ryan Hunn: I think defences in the Premier League all in all are probably stronger, deeper down the league than anywhere else in Europe. And I think that's what... The floor of the Premier League, if you like, is so high because of those defensive setups. And everyone's a unit, you know. And not so much of the game... It doesn't feel like so much of the game is played in transition. that especially if you're playing for a side like City it's very very different to playing for Lyon and although shouts to Lyon beat PSG on the weekend and open up the title race again but still it's it's you know no one's really giving you an inch but a lot of people the mindset of playing Manchester City for so many teams in the Premier League is just to survive or try and nick a point and so I think for a player like him it can take a while and we've talked about this with Florian Vietz as well I think it took Florian Vietz a while to figure out how defences can be unlocked and I think he's done it I don't think he's I think he if you dropped Florian Vietz in the Manchester City side this season he'd be out in this world yeah I think that he's also suffered of the knock-on effect of losing players around him I've got a hot take on Vietz I think Vietz could actually look at a bit of what Cherky's doing and how he's being used I'll tell you why and I think this will be something that you'll see a bit more under unfortunately whoever the next manager ends up being i don't think we're going to see the best version of it's under schlopped i don't think we are there's something i think that's happening with pep and chirky and i think chirky's role is still being developed there's a couple of times when chirky dropped into pockets a bit dangerously but i think he's trying to use him a bit like a santi gazzola like if you look how deep he's picking up the ball in some of these places to build play chirky isn't just a magician on the edge of the box.

18:22He's someone that actually can do passing tempo. And the way that like, you know, that Cazor would receive the ball on either heel, turn into traffic and then like away from it. And like very few players can do that because Cherky has that ability. I think we're going to see him as a deep mind playmaker now and again, dropping into pockets. And he's got quite a good passing range too. Like I'm super interested in, I don't know how long Pep will be at City to kind of seal this through, but where Pep is getting his players to do buildup, I find really, really interesting. So I think tactically, I think for a football fan who had no emotional stake in these games, which is not that many actually given the discourse that followed the final whistle about Arsenal, for a football fan just watching from a tactical point of view, I thought Pep's adjustments and Arteta's countermeasures were extremely interesting.

19:11Actually, I thought they both coached the game really well. Yeah, I did. I did as well.

19:15Ryan Hunn: Should we talk about the rest of the game from a city perspective before we talk about the big title? Yeah, for that kind of thing. But I mean, so from the game as a whole, City take the lead and then Arsenal immediately equalise. And this I find really interesting because this is where you see the real benefits of having a fairly sharp looking Kai Havertz in your side. Like his ability to move and cover ground across the entire front line is kind of unbelievable and the way that he allows Arsenal to press I think him and Martin Erdogan are in the same side it's the first time I've seen Arsenal this front footed without the ball for quite a while and I think it's because you have the personnel there from a tactical and also I think like a fitness and physical point of view and the way that I thought they pressed City all game really well I thought so yeah the best I've seen Arsenal press the side for a while and yeah the goal came from that Kai Havertz just closed down Don and Rumer and I think oh gosh yeah and then it's in the back of the net and City had only just really kind of stopped celebrating when that went in that was a big moment in the game that and I think if Arsenal look back I think their failure to maybe just push on a little bit after that equaliser I think will be one of the things from the game which they may regret because I think they're instantly halting that momentum from a City point of view.

20:52Ryan Hunn: It was almost the first time City's had their momentum checked for a while. When City got the Cherokee goal, I was like, because the goal was so brilliant, because it came so early, I was like, they could really pile this on. I was like, oh no. If they kept the ball, if City just kept the ball for the next three, four minutes, I could see it being 2-0 at halftime. And I could see it being a procession. It was just because the goal was so... we can just cut through at will. But Arsenal steadied it and getting back into that game with a goal that was as humiliating as Cherki's goal was brilliant.

21:26It really evened things up. And you're right, there was, I think, a bit of room for Arsenal to push on. I thought Eze was as good as he'd been for a while, actually. There were passages of play where Eze really was at a level where I was like, yeah, this is what we're talking about. This is the confidence. Madiweka, I think, struggled, actually. and I think you saw in a game of this level he didn't find the pockets I think this is where they missed Saka and Mosguera again Mosguera was managing that flank he was managing that flank in a way that I think Timber wouldn't have don't get me wrong defensively are competent but I think because you're not thrusting on because you don't have that attacking skill set you're inviting pressure so the game was lopsided from that perspective and I thought City to their credit managed that so well Bernardo Silva again just like putting in unbelievable amounts of work tactically sharp coaching the team through that stretch and up until half time you saw when they came off at half time something like it had been 90 minutes like this in terms of not because they were knackered they were unfit but like the concentration on people's faces yeah yeah the intensity of it

22:32Ryan Hunn: and it felt like a real it felt like a it felt like there was a lot at stake absolutely yeah yeah and then second half starts the city I think really that opening phase of the second half City were probably that was the best period I think either side had in the entire game I felt and they were very good and ironically from an Arsenal point of view the goal came again after the best period they had in the game I think the goal is fine I saw a few people complaining about some grappling or whatever but I think it's fine and I don't really have any issue with it. I think there were a few decisions that went either way on the day.

23:16Ryan Hunn: For example, I think... I thought there should have been a... I thought Kusunov should have gone. So, right, here we go. So I think Kusunov should have gone and I think Gabriel should have gone. Without question. If I just both sides the shit out of that. Okay, look, 54 minutes. Kusunov should have gone for the foul. I thought it was clear. Yeah, I wasn't sure why. I was a bit confused as to why they didn't pull that back with VAR. It was clear. I was watching it going, am I delusional? Okay, well, if a Manchester United fan is saying that, then I feel less. I thought I was delusional, but I was like, that looks like a foul.

23:58I love Kursonov. That looks like a foul on Havertz. It looks like a red. To me, I don't see. That's as clear a foul as I've seen. And also, I'm like, Gabriel should have been off. at least three yellow card offenses. At least three.

24:12Ryan Hunn: The headbutt thing, if he'd gone for that, I think he would have missed three games. He should have got yellow for climbing all over Haaland and he should have got, in my opinion. So I think that side of it is, so for example, the whole Haaland having his shirt ripped thing. Haaland pulled his shirt first. Exactly. I think those two are, I think you have to referee those two slightly differently in a way because they both kind of go at each other and they always have done. I think within reason, you know, I think the grappling and the kind of resting and stuff like that, if you start booking either of them for that, I don't think the other one actually would want that.

24:48Ryan Hunn: So for example, I think if you, and I'm purely speculating here, but I think if you said to Haaland afterwards, you know, would you have wanted him to be booked for any of these things? He would have probably, Haaland strikes was the kind of guy who would have been like, nah man, let's just go at it. But I think the headbutt thing, the fact that they both got booked for that, that was wild. And that's the first time I seen these two teams play it and go, no, I think they actually hate each other. I thought they were just, I think they really, I think that these two teams really despise each other.

25:16And I didn't think it before and I was watching it in a pub in Bristol around the corner from where I had this event later. And I turned to a couple of people, Summer City fans, and I said, hey, I do think that's, I said, can I just say, I think that's a red on Havertz, but I also think that Gabriel should have gone. And I was like, and I also said like,

25:35Ryan Hunn: What did the City fans think about the Khrushchev thing? No, they were like, yeah, no, fair enough. They were like, and I said, I think, I said, you know, I think it's happening. I said, I think there's a common thread to these decisions. I think the ref is trying to kind of keep it calm. Yeah, but I think the thing is, I think the thing is, so, look, just before people, anyone kind of comes up here, I don't think Arsenal lost the game because of refereeing decisions, quote unquote. I think they also got away. No, no, no, no. I genuinely think I think that this isn't really the day for Arsenal for I think for either side really to be complaining about decisions because Old Clears say they kind of evened out I think if Gabriel then gets sent off Arsenal got so lucky there because I think losing Gabriel for another three games is just that's catastrophic at this time of the season I think so I'm just more a bit like confused because a fan now and I don't know know whether this is just a symptom of the Premier League's officiating as a whole and what VAR has done I think it's got to a point where I no longer get angry about these decisions I just have almost made my peace with not really knowing what is and what isn't anymore I think I've just become numb to quite a lot of stuff at various like especially the Premier League I think the Premier League is you know it's so silly sometimes yeah yeah totally yeah and I'm glad you mentioned it because at first I was looking at it being like huh I think that's I think that's a foul on a sending off and I'm not entirely sure why that's not happened but then again I thought the same thing for the Gabriel headbutt I was just like that's clearly a red card he should have got a red Gabriel why has it not happened do you know what I mean actually the thing he has to do is look I don't know anything about the internal workings of the Arsenal squad but I think words have to be had you cannot give you know you look at how Rudiger navigated Haaland in a game of equivalent importance in the Champions League.

27:32You do not have to be, if you're going to be a heel, you can't get lost in the character. We know that those two go at it, but I think that Gabriel lost it emotionally. Right. That was my concern, I would say, from the perspective of how he managed the game. I think Haaland just got in his head.

27:48Ryan Hunn: Haaland is the only person who Gabriel quite often feels like he's coming up second best to. No one else does that to Gabriel. Right, right. And I think that's, and these again, these are the margins. Having said all of that, the goal itself, the decisive goal, very interesting. So if you look at Jeremy Doku and the amount of inroads he was making, there's a funny thing that happens with him. Whenever I look at his numbers, they're never as high as I think they are. What I mean by that is, and this is not a knock on Doku, it's like Doku dribbled the ball seven times. It felt like 15, 20. It felt like 15.

28:23Because the amount of times I could imagine Doku driving up against Mascara and cutting in, there was always a danger. Like, he reminds me a bit of like, actually it's funny, there's a parallel with that amazing 2-1 that City had over Liverpool a few years ago and Raheem Sterling was there. And Raheem Sterling was like, deep into injury time, still sprinting like 50 yards up that flank. Doku is basically like that now. But I think with the tools that Doku has, when he cut in on the left, I was like, this is danger because you have to pick your poison with him. he's so good now at going both ways he can cut outside and get the cross he's going to make a dangerous ball and the pass that O 'Reilly plays it's so good it's so good it's a De Bruyne level pass because it's just in that pocket the De Bruyne level pass is so dangerous the O 'Reilly pass De Bruyne pass from O 'Reilly the sentence works

29:16Ryan Hunn: look the De Bruyne pass from O 'Reilly yeah the De Bruyne pass from O 'Reilly across the box and it's total chaos because you either make contact with that as a first attacker let it drift across. And when Haaland finds it in that pocket, it's done. I think that if you're going to split hairs, you could say maybe Hincapier, Gabriel could have been tighter to it. Again, these small margins, these small margins. And that's how it was decided. And I suppose from the Arsenal point of view, the frustration is, Eze had unleashed an absolute banger that came off the post. Hell of a strike. Do you know what I love about this decision?

29:50Because Eze gets the ball and looks up and there was a really good diagonal pass on. There's a really good diagonal pass, but he's feeling it to such a point. You've seen his game, actually, the last 20 minutes before he hits that shot. You see him going in confidence. You see him trusting himself. And the shot he unleashes. Donnarumma, who earlier, he'd made an incredible double save a few minutes earlier, actually. The amazing Odegaard pass. So good. There's going to be a lot of talk about Arsenal should have scored that. That's all Donnarumma.

30:19Ryan Hunn: Yeah, I agree. That's all Donnarumma, both on the first save and the second one. For the goal, to be honest, because I think it very easily could have been a goal. When you see him turn around and celebrate the double save as if he scored, it's really like that's a redemption face. That's a redemption face. Like that. Total side note but that was an unbelievable double save from Musso in the Copa del Rey final that was just I will talk about the Copa del Rey final but also the Julian Alvarez goal. Oh my God. What are we even doing? That player, that is the heir to Harry Kane. That right there, that is the heir to Harry Kane.

30:53You want to listen to

30:53Ryan Hunn: the big Copa del Rey final episode. Go to patreon.com for such a study and you can listen to it on Wednesday. Jun Alvarez, my goodness. Atleti fans are eating good, man. With him and Luckman up front, poof. Anyway, listen, back to this game. So, Ezer hits the post, gorgeous strike, Donnarum are beaten, and then City got the other end and they score, and it still didn't feel like it was done because Arsenal were pushing. Arsenal pushing. I liked the Arsenal subs. They scored again. And the trossard cross that he digs out. Gonzalo Guedes with the cross of the weekend, by the way, for the opener for Real Sociedad, but not far behind him is the Trossard cross for the Havertz chance.

31:28Fun fact about that goal. Yeah.

31:30Ryan Hunn: I hadn't even turned around yet. No way. Real Sociedad scored after 14 seconds, by the way, in the Copadre final. At the either end of the game, so right in injury time, the Trossard cross. Do you know how much, how satisfying it is as someone that grew up watching David Beckham, Pete David Beckham, ripping crosses. Like, Beckham would not just curve across in but he would put hot sauce on it. Trostlad absolutely cranks this one. Was it Odegaard that got the Odegaard was it Martinelli that got the save from Donnarumma but Martin Odegaard puts him in with that gorgeous extra pass that basically puts it on a plate but the save is so good from Donnarumma.

32:11Ryan Hunn: There was one that Javi Seabonds had on Saturday for Spurs that could have gone to Randall Colomani. Spurs, they played some great stuff too. But the thing is I get why Javi Seabonds hit the post it was that one that hit the post and then came out but Colomani's there and it would have looked so good as an assist just to square it for Colomani. He made, by the way, to be clear, Chavisard has made the right choice. Yeah, he made the right choice to shoot there. But anyway, but on this, the cross from Trossard and then Havertz is hanging there and if you, look, as good as Donnarumma is, as good as his positioning was for that, if that is on target, that is in.

32:48Because the power that Havertz meets it with, I don't believe Donnarumma is saving that. And he had hit the target. And this is the thing with Havertz, right? A player that I love. And he scored that amazing late goal against Sporting for the winner. There are two defining misses for Havertz, I think, in his career. I think it's the lob onto the roof of the net against Germany, against Spain in the Euros, the lob onto the roof of the net, and this header. These are things that haunt a striker. Now, look, he's a young guy, plenty of football still to play, including this season. but that that's a draw within good value

33:24Ryan Hunn: yeah but I think if that goes in the whole thing about it and this is why if you want to let's get maybe let's maybe go big picture with both of these but I think this is one of the reasons why I I'm like I really really really want to be more angry than I am about this if that makes sense but I'm kind of weirdly I'm kind of weirdly more positive than I thought I would be coming out of this and I'll explain why in a minute but I think that the wild thing is that header goes in and the whole conversation afterwards is completely different of course let's go from a city point of view first so they have they have eliminated that gap basically they go and win at Burnley they go top of the league and win big at Burnley as well yeah I mean if they do then they'll shift the goal difference massively in their favour as well so it could come down to goal difference I think genuinely I don't think Pep thought he would be here based on where they were at various points in the season however looking back at some of the runs of form that they've had this season they've actually had better runs of form than they're on now from Pep's point of view what he's done really really well managed that period through the season and he's just basically done what City can do right they've gone out and got two key positions for players that they've really really needed in Gaye and Semenyo.

34:48Ryan Hunn: They've hit the ground running. They've had the emergence of someone like Nico O 'Reilly who to become such an important player in the side for such a really, really crucial point of the season has been massive. And then they've managed to integrate Cherokee more so than they were early on in the season. And like we talked about, he started to fire. However, I don't think Pep thinks that this is remotely done at all. And I think he knows more than anyone that... He's got to go to Bournemouth. And Everton though. And Everton. He's got to go. I know that Everton lost the derby on the weekend, but still, I think Pep knows that, and especially with the FA Cup semi-final in there and the fixture congestion that's going to build up at the end of the season, especially if they get to the final, because they still haven't managed to fit in all of their remaining fixtures that they have to miss.

35:37It's going to really, really affect them, I think, at points.

35:43Ryan Hunn: And this is why I've said all along, and I'll stick with it now. I think both sides are still going to drop points the rest of the season. I don't think anyone's going to win out. I think Pep is the least complacent person in this title race. 100%. He's the least complacent. He understands exactly. Can I just say, and I mentioned Bournemouth only in half and jest, Junior Kruppi is going to be a problem. That man was a problem from the moment I started watching him. You know, I was like, this man's, we're intriguing. And then like, his ability to find space and the decisions he makes, he does these wild things.

36:14There's a thing he does against Newcastle where he receives the ball and he throws a fake.

36:19Ryan Hunn: I cannot believe that you've done this. What the hell? This was the only thing that I wanted to talk about. I don't think he realises how much space he was in. No, but do you know what he reminded me of? It's like a getaway car shaking the tail. It's like, I'm not going to drive directly out of here. I'm going to make sure he's losing the tail. And I saw that. Every time I watch Junior Kruppi, I'm like, pay attention. I'm like, this guy does something. That's what I just thought about. I was just thinking about Sicario, you know, when they keep seeing that car at every gap in the block and then all of a sudden it just stops being there.

36:54There are some footballers that actually glitch for defences and I think Kruppi is some of the glitches. I think what Bournemouth, what they've built, Iriola obviously is out the door soon. It's such a shame because it's really just a few last games of this vintage that Bournemouth fans will get to enjoy. But he's left them really well set. And again, I think Pep will not be complacent about this. Everton got their tails up, played some great football, obviously just coming off a painful derby loss in the new stadium. That's a massive win for Liverpool that though, Mike. Yeah, really.

37:25Ryan Hunn: Also, shout out to Virgil van Dijk who's in the latest edition of Fantastic Man with a little contribution from yourself and I. Yes, yes. Man, love Virgil. Quite emotional for Virgil and Mo Salah to score in Mo Salah's last derby, isn't it? Yeah. but yeah anyway so back to City's run-in some tough games there but again I think the benefit is that Pep won't be complacent so I think they're as well places they could be and I think people are expecting I mean Burnley Nottingham Forest like showing up really well Gibbs right with a hat-trick for them against Burnley and I think Burnley being stung by that I don't think anyone is anticipating anything less than a City victory by a couple of goals there so it looks like they could be top on goal difference come, you know, come the, uh, come the middle of the week.

38:16So yeah, very interesting title race, uh, from Arsenal's perspective, just get players back from injury because unfortunately I had to say, I don't know what it is. I don't want to be cast aspersions or anything. Arsenal squad is very, very good, but I have to say it, and I've seen it a couple of years now, this injury thing is not going to wash Ryan. I'm not, I don't know what it is going I don't know how tightly the players are being I don't know what the tactical regime I don't know what the kind of physical demands are but they keep getting injuries in places they cannot afford to get injuries and they get injuries in places where to be blunt, City don't get them and I don't know, I know that Bernardo Silva has an iron constitution and never misses any games but that's the level, this is the kind of player that you need to be signing because I know it sounds harsh but like Bernardo Silva's played a lot of football and the core of that City team, if you look at the City squad over the last few years, what's defined it in a way is they have managed to avoid, for the most part, injuries to their key players.

39:19I mean, De Bruyne is the one exception to that. De Bruyne would, yeah.

39:22Ryan Hunn: Pep deserves some credit here though because Pep is, well, first of all, like, rotation master. Pep is very, like, it's not weird for Pep to all of a sudden just leave Phil Foden out for six games. Yeah. And remember, Phil Foden was, quote unquote, back however long ago and now he doesn't start games for City. He came on with five minutes, well in the 85th minute of this game. Marmouche isn't getting a look in but there were periods where Marmouche was even playing on the left hand side or playing up front. Now look, when you can bring in people like Gaye and Semenya in January, that's very very different.

39:56Ryan Hunn: Arsenal didn't have that ability to do that this season. They signed big in the summer to add depth to the squad. I think it sustained them as opposed to push them on this season because the level of injuries that they've had is still, frankly, kind of wild. Yeah. And I think from my point of view... I'm not trying to dock the medical team. My point of view is just a bit more... I don't want to look back at this season and feel like it was another season of regrets because what I saw on the weekend was such a clear improvement from what I've seen in the last four or five games, where Arsenal have been creaking for a while and kind of felt like they were hanging on a little bit.

40:34Ryan Hunn: And I think that it's really interesting how all of a sudden you see Ezer Havertz and Erdogan in the same starting XI and oh wow this all of a sudden just looks like a completely different side yeah yeah and I have to say people don't want to talk about injuries but it's the killer it's not an excuse but it's a reality it's a reality that right flank a lot of squads have those issues I think Arsenal have had them in quite a large and extreme way over the last two years that's meant that they haven't they haven't been able to fully capitalise on the depth that they've got at their disposal this season because it's meant that the knock-on effect of all of that and the accumulation of all of that, I think I said it on the last show on Thursday, it's just meant that they've not been able to reap the real benefit of having that quality there.

41:20Ryan Hunn: Yeah, yeah. But that's on the club, right? There's a bit of luck involved but there's also a bit of minutes management. The timber injury stuff is going to be such a watch - Yeah, and also knowing when to take players off in games, right? And I think that that's been a bit of an issue for some stuff this season. but anyway I don't want to get bogged down with Arsenal and injury stuff I think let's maybe But this is more a compliment to what Pep's done and I know that Pep's got this huge squad but look there was a graphic that came out a few years ago about Premier League starts and Pep it was amazing I think the player that had the most Premier League starts in one of these seasons was I'm Rick Laporte and Evan was kind of like mid-twenties Pep's thing about just having people like you know you have a 38 game Premier League season and most of your sort of like core players are starting 25 26 games obviously that differs for goalkeepers Edison whatever but that and to me I was looking at that going I think this is the thing the wear and tear the accumulated wear and tear I don't know what the situation is I don't watch Arsenal every week but I wonder if there's a conversation about playing a core or starting a core a fraction too much because I think this is where you start seeing these this is how these differences add up over the course of a season and Pep's done it too effectively too long and too well for it not to be an extra thing and again we're splitting hairs there's a goal between them in goal difference we know that City have the resources and blah blah blah but if we're going to talk about areas of potential improvement from an Arsenal perspective I think that's it and you know City's evolution City's next great team I think is in the making I don't think it's there yet I think they're still building it you can see the core of who City's next great team is going to be as Rodri ages out as Bonanno Silver leaves it's going to be super interesting how they manage the centre of the midfield actually next year I think that's going to be interesting because I don't think that it's guaranteed they're going to run away with the league next year and again it's interesting for Arsenal's transfer business because I think there are some very clear I think there's another wave of big movement before they're really really set I mean they could have won they can still win the league this season they can still I think this is the weird thing about Arsenal at the moment we've talked about City's where City are now I feel like Pep is going all in on the cups I think if if he can then I think he I don't think he yeah just to summarise I don't think he thought that he would be back in with a shout for the league and the fact that he is and Man City are I think he's looking at some of the personnel that Arsenal are starting to get back now and he knows it's not done and I think that they're in a much better position than they were I think that narrative switching now and having City is I think in the eyes of the pundit world, just that's it now.

44:04Ryan Hunn: It's done. I think it'd be interesting to see how that affects them because I think City do really like chasing teams down. They've still got, what, five games to go? Five or six? So it feels a little early for that, but we'll see. I think from Arsenal's point of view, I think actually some real positives and the result's awful in terms of I think if even the Bournemouth if the Bournemouth games are draw I mean that's the that's the real killer that's the killer that game actually but if you look at how Bournemouth then went and played at Newcastle I think the Bournemouth are back in form and I think they're going to take points off people and maybe off City and I think there's a wider conversation about Newcastle which we're not having yet but that is no I think we'll have it because I think there's some with some of the stuff that's going on the wider stuff with the Saudi investment as well yeah I think it's going to be an interesting time for Newcastle it's an interesting summer yeah I think my main issue with the Arsenal stuff is that it felt like, it was like a really weird time to be a fan of, like an Arsenal fan, because the club still has a chance in late April to have potentially the most successful season in its history.

45:17Ryan Hunn: And it doesn't really feel that way. I just want to say this, as a closing thought on this game, which was a superb contest in my opinion, as a closing thought the performance that Arsenal produced despite losing was one of which in many ways they could be proud and credit to that is due also to the Arsenal fans because despite the anxieties around this fixture I think this is a game where this is a team where so much of what's happening on the field is tied to the emotion around it like it's inescapable because it would be such a big thing to win this league title Arsenal fans for all their anxiety leading up to this game helped to generate an atmosphere that was supportive, that allowed a lot of these players that have been under scrutiny to produce a lot of their best.

45:59And the players that didn't produce their best is because frankly, I don't think against some of these defensive systems, they were capable of it. I don't think that many teams would unlock the coverage that City sent at them. What O 'Reilly was doing, I don't think any player other than maybe a peak Bukayo Saka unlocks that. In terms of the, in the Arsenal camp, I think only Bukayo Saka and Timberwork in concert have the tools to unlock that that city left side I think that's what you needed to unlock it I don't think that players fell short in this game through a lack of of composure I don't think this was bottle I think you had if you look at the quality of this that whole bottle thing's bullshit though I think there's there's games in this season which you could point at Arsenal and go maybe they lacked confidence here or there I don't think this was one of them I think it's really important I think the Bournemouth game was the one there was a much greater

46:52Ryan Hunn: anxiety and and yeah and i think if there's anything around the bournemouth game could i say anything and again i don't want to be in a position of policing fans right if you go back in time you can't retrace this stuff and you look united were like this as well we had our own moments our own anxieties if i had a time machine for arsenal fans i'd be like do you know what that energy of waiting for things to go wrong it doesn't serve people well it's better to just go actually we are going to do X. So yeah, I think just, I think, and also for the last few games of the season, there's a lesson here, which is just approach them all with confidence.

47:26Ryan Hunn: I think that's why the performance in this game was so important from an Arsenal perspective, because if they'd just been rolled over, I think that I would have kind of got it. I would have been like, okay, yeah, I'm not really confident in how they can pick up, you know, more points than City for the remainder of the season. They can. I think if you look at the fixtures, I think it's possible. And if it's possible, then you can do it. Yeah. Yeah. yeah I don't know man Arsenal have come a long way in the last few years but just because you've come a long way it doesn't guarantee you anything and I think that this is the thing right the closer you get to achieving real real success especially in the modern era getting that first one over the line is really difficult I think once that happens it becomes easier because it's muscle memory I mean we talked about Rory McIlroy last week right in the Masters you look at what you look at how much pain that guy had to go through from like sporting wise in order to get that green jacket and then next year goes and follows it up.

48:22I feel like, look, I know the parallels with Liverpool are obvious but I really feel like Arsenal wear, Klopp's Liverpool wear in relation to City in terms of the way that that team just had to maximise everything and then just broke through. I just think it's the same thing and like I said this before, there's a lot of conversation about this season's now or never. I actually don't subscribe to that. Maybe I did. I don't know if I did at any point on this podcast.

48:43Ryan Hunn: I think winning the Champions League or the league this season I think is quite... important. It's important, but Arsenal are going to be here again next year. They're just the perennial at this point. For me, in terms of their floor, yes, their ceiling, they're struggling to get things over the line, but in terms of Arsenal's floor, it's higher than almost anybody else's. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree with that. But I just think that in terms of where you're at and you're looking at the kind of landscape from what's going on, if Pep leaves in the summer, I'd feel a lot more confident about Arsenal getting it over the line next year because I think that he is a massive difference maker at City.

49:20Ryan Hunn: I think if you put any other coach in the world in there, I think it's different, right? You know, and you've already set a record for second place finishes in the Premier League to extend that record psychologically isn't unbelievable and I think that for example, if Arsenal don't win the league this season, if they win the Champions League, that's an interesting like a really interesting okay, we're going into pure uncharted territory here because you're achieving something that the club has never done before but you're also doing it in a season where you're maybe disappointed about letting the league slip away right because the league is the one that all Arsenal fans want more I think the majority of but just like from what I see the majority of fans tend to want the league more than the Champions League and I get that because the league has not won it for 22 years I know that Arsenal haven't won the Champions League ever but I think it's a bit of a different thing.

50:12Ryan Hunn: If Arsenal do win the Champions League though, it's so big that I think it then frees up you probably get like a much easier league campaign next season because it's just like we just won the Champions League. So, I don't know man I think all in, look we've got a nice what, 10 days after the season finishes before the World Cup starts I'm going to worry about it then because there's still so much to play for this season and City fans, you know look City fans rightly so are going to have their moment after a big game like that and should gloat away but also they know people know there's a lot of football still to be played this season and if you've seen how quickly the situation can shift look where Liverpool were after five games this season and look how quickly that shifted there's still a lot to play for man I think it's really exciting though from a neutral's point of view it must be super exciting seeing what's going on because you've got both clubs chasing for one thing and then City and Arsenal chasing for other things outside of that.

51:13Ryan Hunn: And to be fair, those two clubs, and I say this as a United fan with our team in third place after a very good win over Chelsea, there is clear water. There is clear water between City and Arsenal. The water is so clear. I don't expect it. I don't expect that gap to be closed significantly next season. Between those two and the rest? Yeah, between those two and the rest. Well, you say that, but mathematically, Manchester United could still win the league Spiritually we can't Spiritually we can't I love you United but spiritually we can't

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52:22City-Arsenal dynamic, sorry, because, you know, City are the new ascendancy. That dynamic remains compelling. But elsewhere, there was some huge football. Spurs 2, Brighton 2. Can I just say on this, the late, can I say the late equaliser from Brighton, I'm going to sound like a kind of a bit of a Spurs fans might roll their eyes at this but Spurs again played some really good stuff like this is the thing we saw in Sunderland we saw the development of De Zerbi's ideas in coaching you see the effect some of the football that Spurs played could have got to 2-0 in this game and would have been good value for it very good value for it to play with that level of freedom as they did for much of this game under that level of relegation pressure was impressive and okay they couldn't get it done you can argue that the small margins they couldn't play out and then Ritter seized on it they got that dispossession deep in the Spurs box is going to haunt them because a win there if you see how they celebrated that goal there was hope there was belief and the Xavi Simons finish was unbelievable there'll be a lot of talk about whether he should have been included earlier under Tudor I'm a bit more benevolent towards Tudor because I think that it's very hard to coach yourself out of a slump

53:24Ryan Hunn: and he had a clear brief exactly I don't blame Tudor for that I mean it's easy for me to say I'm not a Spurs fan but look the Tudor approach worked at pretty much all the other places he was at wasn't his fault it was a thing that worked and just didn't work as spurs because the rock goes deep as we know De Zerbe has come in they're playing with more freedom the problem is Brighton are Brighton and they're a good side if you give them a look they're going to hurt you I mean Matoma's volley at the far post you can't legislate rather like Cherokee for the brilliance of an individual in Matoma's case who hadn't been that present in a contest until then I was watching this on Spanish comms, the highlights, and that got a golazo.

54:04Que golazo. I love it how they say it's so queer. Que golazo. So fast. Yeah, yeah. Noted. Yeah, just Spurs. That is a gutting... I was talking actually to a couple of Arsenal fans about just the build-up to the game. And I actually didn't mention the Spurs equaliser to them. This was before the Arsenal City because I didn't want to bring that negative energy into the conversation because I think, look, it's a tough time for North London. I think both ends of North London are hurting over this great result we mentioned earlier for Bournemouth over Newcastle 2-1 win for them Liverpool with a great win in the derby obviously Leeds just showing out looked fantastic some great football Aronson some of the passing from Brendan Aronson for Leeds 100th minute goal for Van Dijk by the way that's amazing also one other thing as well let me not forget Villers win over Sunderland cracking game

54:55Ryan Hunn: this was yeah but this got this was way more interesting than it should have been from another point of view yeah Villa made this a bit too interesting for yeah everyone was like oh you know start of the season oh Oli Watkins should score should score more then Oli Watkins starts scoring you see what happens when we let him score you see how interesting Oli Watkins has just been like yeah what 100 goals now for Villa and Tammy was the late winner oh glad to see Tammy playing football and playing well love Tammy um Premier League it delivered gotta say it did man gave us the vitamins it was quite big the Liverpool result and the Villa result were huge for the Champions League race because Chelsea losing to your to what sorry to use their full title Musak Wonga and Michael Carrick's Manchester United Football Club Karl Anka's Manchester United sorry Musak Wonga on the Sunday sorry Karl Anka Musak Wonga and Michael Carrick's Manchester United Football Club beating Chelsea 1-0 away Chelsea have lost 4 straight in the league and haven't scored a goal in the league since they beat Villa on the 4th of March.

56:00Ryan Hunn: I think they're getting away with a lot. I think that... Yeah, I do. Resenia can be criticised, but there's something strange with... If I look at that recruitment, they bought a series... Normally when you have a squad depth, you have players that it's clear who the hierarchy is, but they bought quite a few players that are interchangeable, but not of the very, very highest rank. And for the amount they've spent, the recruitment has just felt all over the place it's felt all over the place and i think this is part of the problem like you just don't have the specific pieces to take it to the next level i mean the good news from their perspective the best news i think for them following the reese james connor extension is that kai sado kai sado is going to get um more the funny thing with kai said it was always that even though he was bought for a lot of money in terms of the rate he was being paid it did not feel that competitive and I was slightly surprised that he signed for that for that contract amount like and I think the same Enzo Fernandes Enzo Fernandes sorry Enzo Fernandes having won the World Cup could have commanded even though he had only had like a maybe a full season at Benfica still should have commanded more like market rate so Caicedo in my opinion is is underpaid according to the Premier League midfielders and his quality that's going to be put right hopefully but some strange recruitment over there and I think it explains some of this inconsistent form for the amount of money that they've spent it's I think quite alarming that they're not in a stronger position that I get the strategy or the attempt at the strategy and I you know I think it's we've talked about this before right and I think the problem with Resenia is that he's he is going into a club where everyone feels quite disposable bar very few people and that includes coaches i think that just creates like a weird dynamic and it can create like quite an instability there just on a just like a base level it's just such a weird situation that i i feel like i'm that i think it's really easy for us to to be outsiders and be like well why would you do that but i think one of the biggest things i've heard this season for me which was really interesting was pasta cogli being so open about like not like how he shouldn't have taken the forest job it was a really interesting glimpse into the psyche of a manager where you understand why people take jobs that so clearly just look like lose-lose situations it's the lopetegui thing it's like because how often do you get offered a seat at the table if you don't take that seat maybe you don't get it again yeah that's it yeah once you're out of the premier league when does your name does your name stop circulating um but yeah chelsea and i think is a difficult position i mean relatively speaking it's relative because then it's not in relegation trouble.

58:48But yeah, some really interesting football to come out of the next few weeks. Did we shout out Forrest? Forrest, really, can I say, Forrest finding their wings at a crucial point. Blasting clear. That, I suppose, is the, I suppose that's the concern for Spurs. It just feels like the way it is for Spurs at the moment, that like you suddenly have West Ham and Nottingham Forest like showing out and playing like this expansive football. Like, where was this before? But yeah, still plenty of twists to come, I think at both ends of the table

59:15Ryan Hunn: and also rounding up the fixtures from the weekend Brentford Fulham was a game that happened it was a game that happened one of the games of all time Brentford have drawn four in a row now five in a row I think they can't stop drawing games all of a sudden it was wild you have to run so I think what we're going to do is we're going to park the rest of the European stuff but we should very quickly shout out Bayern winning the league yes Bayern have won the league Vincent Kompany's second league title as Bayern manager back-to-back titles they did it with a win on the weekend and they kind of decided to pretend to make it a little bit interesting they beat Stuttgart 4-2 after being a goal down to a 4-2 win and they win the league with four games to spare and breaking that goal scoring record as we mentioned in the meantime Harry came with another goal of course that's 32 now in the league season extraordinary so he's got four games left to break the Bundesliga record but he needs nine goals do you think he's just going to go off now and they're going to try and get him like hat tricks for the rest of the season.

1:00:14Ryan Hunn: Do you know what? I think he'll break it next season. Do you know what? I think he might. Do you know what? Because do you know who they played next? Who's that? Urs Fischer's Mines. So they're not going to get a result there. He's just getting even better. It's ridiculous. Like the Kane thing, he's got two titles now. No one can talk to him. He's Ballon d 'Or, front runner. All questions about Kane existed. I mean, the thing is, the one thing I will say, there was a period where Kane looked knackered. It wasn't that he wasn't brilliant, but he had that ankle problem as well didn't he he looked physically like he was on his way down and out just because of his body had so many miles on it but now the man is like skipping about i know yeah anything else we want to talk about we'll talk about on wednesday we'll do that show about this the copper del rey final that'll go up on patreon on wednesday afternoon then we'll do another show on friday this week so if you want to listen to those ad free info go to patreon.com forward slash stadio and i reckon that will do us for today because you have to run yeah in that case let's get out of here uh we hope everyone's staying safe and well wherever you are and uh until the next time don't forget to check the stadio archers plays on spotify and speaking of which you're playing out on together part two by elements of peace i'm looking for my elements of peace i'll tell you that was speaking anything you would like to add me so quonga nothing further man I think we were really lucky we had a great weekend of football and I look forward to five or six more match days still plenty to play for I'm glad one of us is looking forward to it see you later everyone back with you Wednesday offload

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