Ajinkya Rahane: Virat Kohli, India's Test Problems & Lord's Century | Stick to Cricket EP 56

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1:26Sir Alastair Cook: Where is Skipper? He's coming. He's coming. What do you mean he's coming? He's on his way. Mate, as tough as you ever, we have to drive to Manchester from here. Never been late, prime myself on my punctuality. We've never been late. Never been late. The one time he comes to our neck of the woods. He's two hours, man. Lost at Milton Keynes. When he said, oh, I'm stuck at Milton Keynes at quarter past nine, I left my house at five past seven to make sure I was here on top.

1:55Phil Tufnell: Unbelievable. And you'd sorted the sheep out in one thing or another.

1:58Sir Alastair Cook: I had a quick go on the cards. I don't know where he's been. Leaves on the line, I think. What was that? Reggie Perrin, wasn't it? Leaves on the line. Leaves on the line. What's that?

2:08Phil Tufnell: I've not got where I am today, CJ. Yeah, that's it. I've not got where I am today being unpunctual. It's a bit echoey in there. I know. I feel, you know, like, a bit different, isn't it?

2:17Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah, it is different. And it's also very surreal when it's so empty, isn't it? Yeah. Like normally it is. Well, you've normally... No chairs. The chairs are normally lined up here, aren't they? Yeah. Oh the amount of applause I've had walking through here. Lifting your butt, raising your butt. How many times do you think you've walked through this room? 18 years of play, dear. Going on 19. So four times? Huh? Three times a day. No, six times a day.

2:43Phil Tufnell: Twice. Yes. And did you gravitate upstairs in the changing room? That's my spot. Yeah, absolutely.

2:50Sir Alastair Cook: Yes, yes. And you? We had the corner of knowledge. Go on, who were you a corner? corner of knowledge.

2:57Phil Tufnell: Who was that taxi driver? Jamie Sykes. He was a taxi driver wasn't he? He ended up with a black cab driver. Yeah, a black cab driver. Jamie Sykes. Knowledge. It is knowledge.

3:10Sir Alastair Cook: It was myself and Angus Fraser and Gus sort of seemed to think in you a little about the game. So that was the cricket and then they used to ask me where to go at night. Where have you been? We had it all covered in that corner. Were you ever playing it? When they could smoke in it? Yes, I used to smoke in the dressing room upstairs.

3:37Phil Tufnell: Yeah, they did.

3:37Sir Alastair Cook: The members could smoke in it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like just a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cigars, pipes, all going in everything.

3:44Phil Tufnell: Yeah, cigars and pipes.

3:46Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah. Yeah. And then they started slinging me out. On flights as well, on flights. I went on a flight. One of my first ever flights, I remember. The back two rows. With a curtain. Fucking hell. Two trains and then it all caught fire.

4:05Michael Vaughan: Morning, morning, morning. Bloody hell. Morning, gents. Morning, gents. Morning, Dave. Afternoon. Sir Ali.

4:15Sir Alastair Cook: Lost at Milson Caves.

4:16Michael Vaughan: I tell you what, trains in this country. Aye. Have you been on one that's been on time? all the last year all the time I'm going to your York yeah I come from on the east side yes yeah

4:27Phil Tufnell: I come on the east side I've got your gift oh you're gonna be my demo what's that you go on

4:32Michael Vaughan: there you go TRS slider all about golf get up film well I've seen it they've seen it yeah yeah

4:39Phil Tufnell: well get him oh this looks all a bit strange you in here what what you want me have you still got your house around here i have yeah but i'm well yeah you didn't bother staying in that

4:53Michael Vaughan: then i'm off to san francisco later day oh what's that got to do with it yeah just sit your hand what's this look look get it in there phil yeah right get your club in you then you've got a club and you've got to keep your hands tight try and swing is it is it does

5:07Phil Tufnell: it work for left-handed i'm gonna say yeah this stays in because it'll strap you in oh no it'll

5:13Michael Vaughan: Strap you in.

5:15Phil Tufnell: Is this right and left-handed?

5:17Michael Vaughan: Right and left-handed, Dave. Is that my left-handed? Yeah, it's a nice gift for you. Thank you very much. Robert Rock. I've seen it.

5:24Sir Alastair Cook: It's on social media. Robert Rock. Swing round your nose. Just get this in tight. Get in there. Get in there. In there. That's it. All right, keep it on for the show. I can't. I feel all restricted. Thank you. Thank you, Mike.

5:39Michael Vaughan: Thank you. Yeah, so you're saying mine's good, is it? At least you can do it.

5:41Phil Tufnell: Very good.

5:42Michael Vaughan: Never late. It's that Manchester down through Stockport, Wilmslow. It's a shocker.

5:47Phil Tufnell: What happened, Mike?

5:48Michael Vaughan: Signals. My signals. That's why I moved. Oh, is that right? That's why I moved. Get over the other side. We get to near Milton Keynes. Yeah. And then he comes on the mic and he says, oh, we've got a problem. We're just trying to work it out. And the train stops. And you know when it stops and then suddenly the air con, everything goes off your life. Trouble. There was trouble. And then he announced, look, we're 100 metres away from the platform, but we can't move. Then we crawl in to Milton Keynes and they wouldn't let us off because of the electrics. So you're on the platform ready to get on another.

6:21Michael Vaughan: Don't you live near Milton Keynes? You could have picked me up.

6:23Phil Tufnell: I would have done it if I left on time. Shhh. What time did you set off this morning from Milton Keynes? I set off at 10 past 7. And you done your sheep? Didn't want to be late, man. I set off at 7.

6:36Sir Alastair Cook: I was only at 7 o 'clock. I set off at 7 from Surrey.

6:40Phil Tufnell: I got here last night, you see. Got down last night.

6:43Michael Vaughan: Say what people get angry on the trains don't you? Oh sweaty, sweaty was he? Oh he was angry. What can the guy do? I mean there's one fella and then they have to do a head count. How about that? He said he goes, I'm gonna come around and do a head count just to let you know I've got no more information so I don't want any of you saying to me what's happening. So please I'm just coming around to just counting heads. So he has to let the... What in case someone's sort of like gone out the window? No, but it's so they can pass on. Look, we've got 800 on our train, so they've got to get 800 from Milton Keynes.

7:18Michael Vaughan: Oh, somewhere else. On other rattlers, haven't they? Hey, look who's coming in here, by the way. You've got a tremendous 100.

7:23Phil Tufnell: Who?

7:24Michael Vaughan: Our guest. Who is it? At this venue. What year were you playing? Yeah. It was a green tie. I think you put him in, didn't you? Were you a skipper? There he is. Look at him. Jinkie we are. Come on, lads. Say hello to him.

7:36Phil Tufnell: Hiya, man. Good to see you.

7:37Michael Vaughan: Hello, great, man. How are you? Good to see you. Jink, how are you? How are you? How are you? Good, you know Bumble. Good to see you. Hello mate, how are you? Nice to see you.

7:46Sir Alastair Cook: Good, good, good. Take a chair mate.

7:48Michael Vaughan: Jinx, we were just talking about your 100 here. What year was that? 2014. And who was captain of England? Not mine. The pitch was the green top, wasn't it? I'll tell you one interesting thing. Before that test match, the way I got out, he took my cats at the silly point, trying to pull to Stuart Broad, bottom edge and we were there. Great captain. What a silly point to Stuart Broad. I knew, I knew, I knew, I saw something in this top hand. I thought, ahead of the game, I didn't get credit, did I?

8:24Sir Alastair Cook: No, you didn't get enough. Because I only ever had two slips, a ring feel is all I had. Proactive skipper in that, he's well done. For the same Saturday they tried to apply here. You bounce the shit out of here and then they get pulling us in.

8:38Michael Vaughan: So you've got yourself on the honest board, you've got, you know, you're drawing Ajik Agarca. He's on there. I was playing. I was in that game. Will you be captain?

8:49Sir Alastair Cook: He had proper ears.

8:52Phil Tufnell: I'm talking of ears. Oh, my ears aren't. Rahul Dravid as well. Rahul Dravid. Rahul Dravid, yeah. What year with Rahul? That was young, you. No, Rahul was in... 96? Rahul, he got 96 in his debut. Savrov got 100. That's right, yeah. Rahul, I think 2011, he got his first 100 at Lords. No Sachin, no Sachin, no Lara.

9:17Sir Alastair Cook: That season, he, that, not an easy place to score on this one. I was, I mean, I was with the team, I was with the team, but he had a fantastic season. Oh my God. He got 300s here, 400s here, and then 300s or 200s in West Indies. Who's this? Dravid, he got 300s. The war. What a player. And they lost 4-0 and he got all the runs. What a player. You know what they're doing with the pitch? You know that pitch that they were all having a moan about? New Zealand. The New Zealand test pitch? Digging it up. Digging it up. What, now? No, it won't be far away. They've had enough of it. Have they? We're outing it, yeah.

9:48Michael Vaughan: They could drop in it. Which one was it? It's still there, isn't it?

9:51Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah, I think it's still there at the moment, but it won't be for long.

9:54Michael Vaughan: Was it because of the weather? Oh, I was jealous of that. Alistair's the expert on pitches. It was to do. He's our farmer you see. It was like playing on a field. So do the drainage, that's all I ever say. Yeah. I'm tired and tired.

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10:26No! And then he was half fit. He ran him out. He ran the king out. And he's going, I'm going to destroy. Typical Australians, you know, they like to target the captains of the opposition team.

10:39Michael Vaughan: What would be Virat Kohli's kind of key message to you as a batter? Ironing my clothes for the next day. Ironing your clothes? Oh, you did that. Iron my clothes in your room. Yeah, but your disco kit, not your whites. I never went to a disco tech. I really enjoyed playing under Fleming for two years with CSK. was really good.

11:07Michael Vaughan: Will Suri Van Chi play Test cricket and when? She's a lady up here. What's she doing up here? Cleaning windows.

11:18Phil Tufnell: Don't let me do this.

11:25Michael Vaughan: Jinx, you'll realise on this show that we kind of go off on it. That's fine. I was just going to ask. I was just watching it on the YouTube and then I got the flow.

11:34Sir Alastair Cook: I was just going to ask, here we are in the long room. 100 out there, the walk-off. Is that up there? Absolutely. Yeah. I think the top moment for me. Oh, in your career. Oh yeah this one hundred here and 112 at the MCG. Oh yeah that was a cracking 100.

11:55Phil Tufnell: Captain as well wasn't he? Hang on, what was their attack? What was the Australian attack? Everyone. Mitchell Stark, Pat Cummins, Hazelwood, Nathan Lyon, Cameron Green. Bumble this is the tour that they got at Adelaide they were balled out for 36. He got nine wickets down, practically nine down. All right, so you weren't born there.

12:2036, all out.

12:22Michael Vaughan: Get hammered at it. Coley goes home for the birth of his first child. Was that right? Jinx takes over the reins and they all talk about Ravi's coaching and he's a genius in terms of what he got out of that team. Verak Coley, what he kind of brought to that team over a period of time. He was the skipper. He brought it home, Jinx.

12:40Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah, good effort mate. Fantastic.

12:43Michael Vaughan: And 100 at the G.

12:44Sir Alastair Cook: That was great as well. I love that count. I always enjoyed playing at the count.

12:49Phil Tufnell: So what was your relationship with these bowlers? You know, you're in Australia at the G, you're getting 100. What are they like to you? What are the bowlers like to you? My bowlers? No, they're not. The Australian bowlers took to you. You're getting 100 at the G in their backyard. What's their demeanour towards you? I mean, when the match was going on, it was typical Australians, sledging, coming out. Intense. No Virat Kohli, Mohamish Sami got injured, and they thought they were all orders. But the conditions were so tough, overcast, but for me as a captain was not to think about the past, what happened in Adelaide and what is going to happen in the future.

13:42So I tried very hard to be in the moment, it was really tough, frankly speaking, but when I got the 100, you know, everyone came up to me, acknowledged the knock, the way I played, the way I handled everything was...

13:57Phil Tufnell: So I want to come from a coach's viewpoint. So they're at you, in their backyard, at the G, full house. Always. How do you react to that? Do you completely block it out of your mind? Do you respond at all? I don't respond at all. Nothing? No, nothing. Just completely. Never said a word, did you? Nothing. Nothing. No. Did they sledge you? They did, on and off. I remember the first session, they were going hard at me. Typical Australians, they like to target the captains of the opposition team. That's the first thing. Once the captain crumbles, they know the team will probably crumble under pressure.

14:37I tried very hard but I have some methods, I have a theory of noting it down. Because that was my fourth or fifth tour to Australia. Right. You know how the kind of cricket they play, go aggressive, go really hard. But the way, I generally don't respond to anything and that's how it really worked. What did you write down? No, write down as in the plans for me, because when I got to know I'll be the captain for that tour, we were in Dubai playing IPL, Covid times, and then BC said, told me I'll be the captain, Virat Kohli will leave after the first test match, so I thought, OK, let me have my plans, plan A, plan B, plan C.

15:19What plan did you ever get involved at for 36? What plan was that?

15:22Michael Vaughan: He wasn't the skipper. Yeah, I was not the skipper. That was right in the back of the book. He planned for that, so we'd look even better.

15:30Sir Alastair Cook: It's funny you say that because I think this is where I went wrong, you know, because you know you used to write everything down Yeah, yeah used to write everything I wrote a few things down. Oh, did you what did you write down? I wrote nothing down I didn't write anything down I didn't even have hell Come on let's get him a pen

15:49Michael Vaughan: Get us a pen, get us a pen Get us a pen, let's just start Phil out here Just write some things down What was you written down Tom? Yeah, come on Let's take you back to you. You got six against Sri Lanka here, didn't you? Yes, I did, yeah. Right, so let's take what year was that? I don't know. Right, OK, so it was in the 90s. Give us that penny. No, I was just talking about it. Right, so my first thing I would have written down. Come on, you've got six against Sri Lanka. What are you writing down that night?

16:11Sir Alastair Cook: No, me batting, me batting, for batting, my notes would have been...

16:19Sir Alastair Cook: Help.

16:29Sir Alastair Cook: But that's good, but you've always said that. Yes, you're right, you said that as well.

16:33Phil Tufnell: I used to write down, when I was coaching, I used to write down every ball. Yes, you were always saying, how did you end up?

16:39Michael Vaughan: That's what they do in the dugouts, is it?

16:41Phil Tufnell: So you get the ballers together, you'd have a ballers meeting before the game, I'm prepping and this is how we're going to bowl at this individual and that individual and yeah we're all agreed that's the line, that's the length, that's what we're going to do. And then you start right every ball and these first five overs is 30 deliveries and give that baller that 30 deliveries that you've just sent down. Why has the seven of them gone down the leg side? Why, yeah. Why is that?

17:07Michael Vaughan: So when you see them in the dugouts of IPL, you know, you see it in Test cricket, you see, well, we've got the walkie-talkie. No, we did have the walkie-talkie. Walkie-talkie's gone in Test cricket. Ravi Shastri on a tour to Australia, you're obviously coming back from going 1-0 down. Ravi wouldn't be someone that writes things down. No, I don't know.

17:29Phil Tufnell: No, Ravi did a bottle of red wine. But it's all up there, isn't it? Do you not think some of them just write it down?

17:36Sir Alastair Cook: I bowled, it might be slightly different to you batters, bowlers, but there is a log book in the back of your head that you then pick out, you know what I mean, and go, oh he's coming in, you're coming in, or I'll remember getting him out like that, that feel over there. But I never wrote it down.

17:54Michael Vaughan: So you're saying that bowlers are probably smarter than batters, because batters need to write everything down. Well, no, I wasn't saying that.

18:03Sir Alastair Cook: No, I was just saying that there's, well, and I'm sure that you have that about bowlers, but you felt the need. Why feel the need to actually put pen to paper? Does that make it more... Reassurance. Reassurance. I think for me as a captain, it was not about my batting, what I was writing it down. It was about just in general plans, because once you're on the field, captain, you must be knowing, there's so many things going in your head. You're just keeping those crystal clear picture. Yep. Backing your bowler is the first priority, you know, backing their own plans. But if that doesn't work, as a captain I should have the other plans.

18:40And I should be the confident guy telling the ballers, okay we should go in this direction. So just keeping it crystal clear rather than confusing myself and going on the field and there's nothing. So I think writing helped me a lot about making everything clear.

18:56Michael Vaughan: Did most of your writing at the bottom of it just said, just put Jasprit on? He was not actually in Brisbane. He wasn't in the last game, did he? So in Gabba we had five ballers amongst them. The experience was like five or six overs. What was the attack? That's it. Siraj, Washington Sundar played. Washington Sundar was his debut. Siraj was second test match, Sharlul Thakur. Played first test match in India. Bowled only two deliveries, got injured. So ideally that was his debut. Yeah. Lord Thakur. We had Saini, debut. He got injured. He actually bowled. He was struggling with his hamstring. Bowled when he was injured, so he kept on playing.

19:45We had Natrajan debut. So he had to take two injections in his knees before the Brisbane Test match. So you can win with three people on debut? I thought you couldn't.

20:04Sir Alastair Cook: Sorry, sorry, sorry. Well this is funny isn't it?

20:08Michael Vaughan: India, that's one of the great series wins in my eyes, in our time. Going to Australia and winning with a team that's depleted, to come back from 1-0 down, to get the draw in Sydney. That was the game where Rashwin was batting out and Tim Payne chirped about his kids and Rishabh. Yeah, something about babysitting his kids. And then obviously they go to Brisbane and you chase down. What was the chase? 338. That for me, I mean, people lost like the last 20... Yeah, 338. They won the series 2-1 having been 1-0 down. At 36. Getting hammered in Sydney and then suddenly blocked out for the draw. It was a remarkable series.

20:43We had to block down for two sessions. Lunch, duty and then end of this play. You are allowed to block out food. Stop it, Tappers.

20:52Michael Vaughan: Stop it, stop it. So you can block out food. I don't want to go in there. We're trying to find a formula. Alistair was a part of the team in 10 and 11 that won down in Australia. But in our time as players, as coaches and commentators, England going to Australia has been a problem. It's been a real trouble. Whereas Indy have always... I know the last tour didn't quite go as you would have liked, but you've generally had success in Australia. More competitive. We are desperate to try and find the formula.

21:23Sir Alastair Cook: Oh, here we go.

21:23Michael Vaughan: We go on preparation. Where did we prepare? How much did we prepare? What peaches did we prepare? We didn't prepare this time. We got hammered the last time or a few times before. We did prepare and we got hammered. What is the formula? Can you give English cricket some help? Once I get into the cutting road. Preparation. Start with preparation.

21:42Phil Tufnell: Do you want to play a couple of matches before you play a test match? I always preferred that, playing practice games. I always... Because we played when we won the series in 2020-2021, we played three practice games, three four-day games. And I thought that really helped us. I think, I always slightly old school, that when you have practice games, coming from Mumbai, coming from India, playing matches always helped me a lot as a player, as a batter. Rhythm? Yeah, just going into the rhythm, even if you get out. But I think that mindset, it's very important. Staying on the field for 90 overs, that helps you a lot.

22:23Getting ready. Stamina. Absolutely. Batting four sessions, you think about playing test cricket, batting four sessions, batting five sessions. That's how you build up and then end up winning the test match. That's the best possible way. But preparation, as you said, practice matches are very important. but again how we prepare after practice matches, also getting tougher in the practice sessions. That's what we did in Australia, that's what we did in South Africa as well, very challenging conditions but everything making ourselves hard. Even if you're getting hit on the body during the practice sessions, that was okay.

22:59Sir Alastair Cook: Miles in the bowler's legs, getting that in them. That's the thing Ravi always told us about, keep it really hard for yourself in the practice session. So once you go out there in the middle, it becomes slightly easier.

23:11Phil Tufnell: I think he's a great man, Rabi Shastri. I remember him as a player. He's a wonderful player at Glamorgan. He was a tall, big guy, left arm spin and he'd absolutely clatter it with a bat. He had a pride in what he did. Very gutsy. Very gutsy player. But he enjoyed himself as well. Get away from the game. He'd be your best mate. Who were those practice games against? So we played two practice games against Australian, the Prime Minister in XI. Yeah, but good standard. Very good standard. There were three, four players that were in the test team and all the players who were doing well in the domestic cricket, they were actually in the science.

23:53I thought four days. Generally what happens is once you play those practice games, the intensity drops. I think it's important to carry on that intensity. It's really tough playing practice matches and giving 100 % and carrying on that intensity what you do in the Test cricket. I thought that's what helped me individually.

24:15Michael Vaughan: Where does that demand come from? The intensity of being an Indian cricketer I reckon is harder than any other country in the world because of what comes with the expectation, the profile. well, you guys can't even get out of your house in India without people wanting to have a piece of you. So that intensity is really important for me to talk about, because in English cricket, I think we've lacked that. I think we have these moments where we just switch off slightly, particularly in warm-up games and maybe in preparation. And we use rest and recuperation and not quite being on it all the time.

24:49Michael Vaughan: But in India, you do seem to find a way of having that intensity. Where does that come from? I think for me, when I realised, before making my debut in the Test cricket, I played five to six years of domestic cricket. Got runs there, but once I went into an Indian team, it was hard for me to come back and play domestic cricket because the schedule was so tight. But whenever we used to get an opportunity, Duncan Fletcher was the coach that time. And 2011 to 2013, I was with the team, but I never got an opportunity to play my Test match. So I played my first Test match in 2013. During those two years, Duncan said, if you're not playing, go and play domestic cricket.

25:31So I felt from international to domestic, intensity knowingly, unknowingly was getting dropped. Even playing club cricket. I used to go and play club cricket as well in Mumbai. And the standard in Mumbai club cricket is also so good. Wickets are challenging. The red soil wicket, turning wicket, challenging. Once you let your guard down, you know you are in trouble. And for as a cricketer for everyone, all of us, it's always about the carrying all the confidence, our image, our reputation every single time. So I thought if I'm coming from international cricket, if I'm if my intensity is not there, I'm not giving best for my team, there's no use.

26:13So whichever format, whichever team, club cricket, once I cross that boundary line, I need to get my intensity up every single time.

26:21Sir Alastair Cook: Because your reputation is on the line every time you cross that wide line. Geoffrey Boycott. Yeah, every single time.

26:30Phil Tufnell: You said we don't got that line. Whoever you're playing against, does it matter who you're playing against? Reputation. I felt in the end you're playing game of cricket. It's against bat and ball. I need to take that into my best farmers' games. How did you get on at Lashins by the way?

26:50Michael Vaughan: Did you get any? I got 40 odd. I did. Got caught in the boundary and got called back. Did you? So you were out and they... I was out like 20 and then... Did the big boys? See I missed the big boys. They bowled their opening spell and then weren't seen again. Oh well fair enough. Phil to your point, I think there's a small few players across the whole world that have that intensity every single day. I think Steve Waugh had it. Oh, yeah. Steve Waugh, when he came to county cricket, you know, he... I can't remember his comment when he played for Kent. If he can't get up for a county day... He played for Somerset.

27:27Michael Vaughan: Yeah. I think he played for Kent as well. He played for Kent because Steve Kirby came around the wicket and said to the umpire, I'm coming around the wicket and calling an ambulance. Get an ambulance. To Steve Waugh. Really?

27:40Phil Tufnell: He went... Atherton's captain of England and Steve Kirby, who probably a digger don't know him, but Steve Kirby's a red-headed lad from Yorkshire and he's, boy, he got whipped on past his outside edge and comes down the pitch to Atherton, captain of England. He said, I've seen better batters in my fridge. To which Atherton said, I beg your pardon? What are you on about? A little storm bite. You know it. Hangry. And a good coach. He's a good coach. He's a good coach.

28:11Sir Alastair Cook: Kirtley and Courtney said it didn't they about the West Indies Nets? Oh yeah. He said, if anything they went harder.

28:19Michael Vaughan: I think England have it at times. I've watched England Nets. Yeah they have that. There's only a small few players in the game that can just get up for every single day. Whether it's playing for the club team in Mumbai, whether it's playing for the county team. Obviously on a stage like this it's easy isn't it? When you've got$30 ,000, plenty of watching all the television. It's a piece of piss. Fair dues with England.

28:42Phil Tufnell: Practice sessions are full on. Yeah. Yeah.

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30:12Michael Vaughan: I've got some numbers here, Jinx. Batting with Virat Kohli. So 67 innings together, you scored 3 ,661 runs as a partnership in Test Cricket. I mean, how? Clearly he's pretty good, but what was that kind of togetherness that you found out in the middle? I thought, firstly I really enjoyed batting with him. We complimented each other really well. The aggressive nature of Virat Kohli and then my calm nature that really helped us a lot. I feel the reason for this partnership is always the positive communication and the fan communication, what we had, what we used to feel when we used to bat together.

30:56Example, probably we had very good partnerships against Australia. Whenever Virat thought of going against a particular baller and if my response was positive, he was doing it better. Virat was the guy who always liked people who were coming after him. And then I told him, whenever he used to ask me, what do you think about wrestling back? I said, yeah, if that works for you, go for it. And vice versa, again, the frank communication, that helped us. lot but again the reason for this partnership for this runs it's all about the camaraderie we used to spend a lot of time together even off the field i mean nowadays you don't see players coming together talking cricket we used to talk a lot about cricket about the game i mean not only with firard but other other players as well so sit in our team room in our individual rooms group of 10 12 people sometimes each and everyone like whole team we should talk a lot about the game about Viraj's game, about my game, about other players as well.

32:04So I thought that's the only thing I learnt. Internationally cricket, domestic cricket, if you're talking cricket with your teammates, you get to learn many more things.

32:14Michael Vaughan: It's about the old school way, isn't it? Any run outs? Run outs? Yeah, run outs. Run outs too. His fault? You run him out twice.

32:24Sir Alastair Cook: Ooh, it's a long pause. No, that's fine. I'll tell you, the Adelaide one. When we got out on 36, the first innings, you see that video. You ran him out. I defended the ball, Nathan Lane was bowling, and I timed it so well. And as a batsman, you know, your instinct reaction sometimes, yes, yes, yes. And then I saw Hazelwood running out, and he was like, silly mid-off. Nathan Lane generally don't put covers, this point, straight up point, and mid-off, short mid-off. and my instant reaction was yes and then I saw Hazelwood running and said no and then he was half way he ran him out and that partnership was again going really well 70 odd or 80 odd partnership he got out, next door I got out and then we crumbled

33:14Phil Tufnell: So how did that conversation go after that? Pint of silence I watched a league game second 11 this last weekend and that happened Sheriff Hutton Bridge. It was close round there, and that happened. I've never seen a performance like it from the bloke who was run out on earth. Really? Not that.

33:40He played 20 quid for himself, so you don't want to get run out, do you?

33:43Michael Vaughan: What would be Virat Kohli's key message to you as a batter? That game? Yeah, obviously you've got a great relationship, but he would have helped you. So those conversations that you sit around having a coffee, whatever you're drinking. He was always positive. He said, well, Jinx, just play your game. Because for me, naturally, I'm an attacking cricketer, attacking batsman. So he said, if you feel like going after a particular baller, don't hesitate at all. So he was always positive. He never told me about, OK, let's see how it feels. Let's see, take out 10, 15 balls and then play your game. If you feel like going after first ball, go for it.

34:26There's clear messaging there.

34:28Sir Alastair Cook: I always thought that you just had a chat about where you were going to dinner and stuff while you were doing the little chats and everything and doing a bit of guard.

34:35Michael Vaughan: Sometimes you did, yeah. Oh, you see, in the middle. I thought you meant when they're having a brew at night.

34:39Sir Alastair Cook: No, no, no. But when you come together, you know what I mean? I must admit, I experienced this once with JL. JL here. You were batting with Justin Lange. Yeah, yeah. I want proof of this. He was our overseas professional. How did he open the batting? You were out of it? Whatever what had happened. Well, he batted through, hadn't he? Yeah, yeah. Or did you get moved up? No, I don't think so. But he was, he came to the middle like that, and I was sort of like, all right, all right. And he's going, I'm going to fucking destroy him. I'm going to destroy him. I'm having him. It was like a, what did you say back to him?

35:15Sir Alastair Cook: Well, no, I thought I got it though, but I got it. I thought it was war, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's sort of like coming up and just having a prod about. You know what I mean?

35:24Phil Tufnell: He's an interesting character, Justin Lange. Yeah, by the way. He's got a great rapport with Ricky Ponzi. They were great together. Scrapers. He's a good fella. He's a lovely fella, but there's something about him. Wow.

35:38Michael Vaughan: We've mentioned Yin and Yang on this show before. Do you think there's ever been a more Yin and Yang than a Phil Tufner?

35:46Phil Tufnell: Did you offer him a fag? No, no.

35:50Sir Alastair Cook: And he was saying to me, I'll tell you what I think it was. We need to find the partnership. Why did you get that partnership if you can't? No, I don't think it is. I think it was someone like Lloyd Tennant. And JL was saying to me, he was doing the bowling for Leicester. Leicester, Lloyd Tennant, you're charging in. Well, yeah, but he was going, he can't bowl at me. He can't bowl a ball at me. You know what I mean? He said, I could see it in his eyes. And I got wrapped right into it. Yeah, come on, come on. I was going, fucking go in, JL, come on. You get our next ball. Well, yeah, I didn't have it.

36:22Sir Alastair Cook: Oh, yeah. I cut us netball back and away. One.

36:26Phil Tufnell: Yeah, but I've got that sort of... Who toughened up India cricket? I would say Saurav Ganguly. Good question to ask. Saurav Ganguly toughened up. When he took his shirt off. Took his shirt off, whizzing it round up there. I was on the balcony. Yeah, down on that boundary. You were playing, weren't you? I was playing. He played a bit at length. He didn't do great, but I think he'd be an influence. No more Mr Nice Guy. Would that be right, Jinx? So I think he said the standard. Yeah, he was a tough guy. I played when he was with the team. I mean, when he was playing, I was just playing domestic cricket, but we played a couple of domestic matches against each other.

37:09And again, the intensity part, I'll come back to. And what I learned from the past senior cricketers was they were the same when they were playing international cricket and domestic cricket. The intensity was the same. And even if you talk to Ravi, Ravi will tell you the same thing. Once you go out there in the middle, your intensity and the attitude matters a lot. So Saurabh definitely set the standard. But I feel when we started playing in our era, when MS was going from test cricket, he was still playing T20 and ODI as well. but especially Test cricket I felt, Virat and Ravi, the guys who toughened up the Indian cricket, especially playing overseas cricket, going aggressive, going bold, rather than being defensive and slightly reactive.

38:00I think we were always proactive.

38:04Michael Vaughan: Jinx, do you see how many, I look at India, white ball cricket, incredible. Nearly won the last 50 over the World Cup, T20 champs two times on the trot. You look at your Test team in the last couple of years, it has gone. And when you talk about that competitive kind of spirit that Virat Kohli, Ravish Astri, probably yourself brought to that dressing room, you're kind of looking at this team now going, whew, they're missing that. Yeah, I mean, it's, yeah, I mean, sitting at home because I, last two years not been playing Test cricket, watching Indian Test team losing matches, even in India as well.

38:38I felt Test cricket needs character. you need to build that character. Toughness. Mental toughness. Competitive cricket, that's what is really important. Playing sessions out. I mean, nowadays you don't see many teams I don't want to pinpoint on anyone. You want to see people playing out those sessions, those tough sessions. Which team are you pointing at there, James? I'm not saying anything. Many teams. Basics, really, that though. Finish sessions, start sessions.

39:07Michael Vaughan: I guess in your last year here, they got close. I mean they should have won the test match here. Obviously won the last game at the Oval. They were tough on that last morning. Cracky, that was an atmosphere. That reminded me of a little bit of the Virat Ravi kind of era that last morning at the Oval. Siraj, yeah. There was a real kind of, yeah, Siraj outstanding.

39:25Phil Tufnell: So what about the coach now? I mean he's a character now. The coach now looks to be quite a tough guy. Yeah, Gartem will be... Gartem looks...

39:33Michael Vaughan: He don't smile. He didn't have played there. I've learned with this. I played with him. KKR, would he have been coach around the same time? I mean, I was not with KKR that time, when he was the coach. But he seems, I don't know him, he looks to be quite a tough character. I never played under him when he was the coach. We played together. When we came here, even in India with the Indian team, we played together. I feel test cricket is always about sessions, playing sessions, respecting a position, those spells, playing out those spells, tough moments, challenging. Tough moments? You just... Earn the right.

40:07Michael Vaughan: Earn the right. Hey, can I just go back to your partnership with Justin Langer? I've got it here. It was against Glamorgan. Oh, was it? That's right. Justin Langer's coming at... Andrew Strauss at the top. He opened. He got nine. Yeah. Ben Hutton, he got six. Oh, A'sha got 15. And Joyce at four got north. You're in trouble here, Tuffin. Ramps at five. He's out. Oh, he got 51.

40:27Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah.

40:27Michael Vaughan: Justin Langer has gone in at number six.

40:30Sir Alastair Cook: He must have been ill.

40:30Michael Vaughan: You got 213 not out. The cat. You've done a job really. You've got none. How many balls did he face? 25. Phil, Phil, Phil.

40:47Phil Tufnell: What was the partnership? What was the partnership? Who was the bowlers?

40:51Michael Vaughan: The partnership. What was the partnership? The partnership was 56. There you go. You got none.

40:57Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah, well there you go. I did reach. The Jack Leach. I was doing it as Jinx was saying, finish out overs.

41:04Phil Tufnell: How do you get caught and bowled? Who was the attack? The Morgan attack?

41:11Sir Alastair Cook: What kid?

41:12Phil Tufnell: Croft?

41:13Sir Alastair Cook: Crofty?

41:14Michael Vaughan: Crofty, Thomas. Darren Thomas. Newell? Parking? Yes, yeah. Quick.

41:26Sir Alastair Cook: There you go. Well there you go, that's what I was saying. Cosker? I played my part. I played my part. I played my part. Another innings.

41:34Michael Vaughan: Yeah, instead of just going, oh. Here we go, the report. Mark Rambikas, David Nash 41 and Richard Johnson 41 provided valuable support to Lager, as did Phil Troll.

41:47Phil Tufnell: Who batted 57 minutes without scoring before hitting a return catch to Robert Croft.

41:53Sir Alastair Cook: Oh, Croft, I've decided to have up by Robert Croft. 57 minutes, Cass. You must have changed your gloves. No, never. You must have never changed the sights. Did he bag them? What did he get in the second innings? Oh, thanks! I'm winning and he was a multi-fist. They ended up 93 for naught.

42:13Phil Tufnell: 56! J.O. was like, They finished 93 for naught.

42:18Michael Vaughan: There must have been rain because it's gone 325 all out, 387 all out, 93 for naught.

42:25Sir Alastair Cook: You're talking about the resurgence of Indian cricket. I think I might have had a hand in that actually. 1992. 92. When all the TV rights... I mean, do you remember? Athers did a show about it, the 92 on the sky.

42:42Michael Vaughan: Oh, it was called... It was a brilliant show. Yeah, brilliant. Yeah, it was where Dermot Reeves' mum had to score. That's right. In Calcutta, yeah. But how have you now played a part in their resurgence?

42:52Sir Alastair Cook: Well, because Indian cricket was a bit of a low ebb. It was all run by a television show. Yeah, yeah. That was four years. Just not. It opened up.

43:05Phil Tufnell: Dardashan. That was it, wasn't it? Dardashan. There you go. Dardashan.

43:09Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah, yeah. Or something like that. It was a fascinating programme. And then we got done 3-0. Kumbhle, Azaruddin and... Oh, crikey, who else had a bodice? Rajesh Chowann, Offi. Havani. Cavani. Kapil Dev. Kapil Dev hit Eddie Emmings. No, that was it. I can't remember where it was but Dev, Big Dev had taken the third new ball and we're all going, come on Dev, come on Dev, third new ball. The big power back, Kapil Dev ran straight down the wicket, him straight back over his head for six. First ball of the third new ball. You're claiming

43:49Michael Vaughan: I mean, the reason why India have gone on to be so... And the IPL. Well, no, it's because of you. And the IPL.

43:53Sir Alastair Cook: Well, yeah, well, I think that... But do you correct the IPL as well with Lalit? I think that 92... No, Athos sort of said it himself in that programme. He said that 92 then opened up the way through television and... Yeah. You know. Died a show. Can I ask a serious question? Yeah, you go for it. That's true. Watch the bloody show. No, I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to watch it on, because I watched your thing on the other day on Sky. I thought it was brilliant against New Zealand. That shot you paid. Yeah. When you won against Australia, there was a little bit of cool for you to take over the captaincy from Virat.

44:27Was that just media chat or was that a genuine possibility? No, that was just probably the media chat. Because the frank communication before the series that was only for the three test matches, which we played in Australia, and then people started talking about my captainship, how well I led and everything. But no one actually came up to me and said this, that we are probably thinking about this. It was just probably media chat, fans talking about this stuff. But yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes you hear rumors about people saying something about you or against someone. But nothing from BCCI came or nothing from the reliable sources that they were actually thinking about.

45:17Nothing sort of that. It was just a talk.

45:19Phil Tufnell: How do you cope with the fans? How do you cope with the support that you get? I think frankly I believe whatever we are today as Indian cricketers it's because of our fans. When we do well they're on top of us, they'll appreciate, they'll talk very good things about it. But when we don't do well, sometimes series or individual performances, they will criticise hard. So it's important to, I felt, being humble, being on the same level, respecting their opinions because again, some of the fans, they understand cricket. That's what I have seen in Mumbai especially. They understand cricket. People in Chennai understand cricket.

46:00People in Kolkata, they know their game really well. So it's respecting. Delhi, not so much. They are very emotional.

46:12Phil Tufnell: They always, if you look at yesterday's game, it strikes me that Indian cricket supporters are always happy. They bring an energy there. There's an energy that you get and they're always smiling and waving.

46:26Michael Vaughan: Jiggs, can I, you know, in the Indian cricket team, we see it here in the UK with the social media, the effect it can have on players and comments. Yes. Do you as an Indian player get advised when you go into that group of how to deal with it? Or do you get people to manage your accounts for you? As a team we don't get any advice about looking after our social media. I think every individual player has their own team.

46:52Phil Tufnell: You all have a curfew though, won't you? People do watch us. People know what each and everyone is doing. so everyone has the idea of who is going where, who is coming, what time. Do they have you on Find My Phone? No, but coming back to social media, again, for me, individually, I delete all the apps. When the series is on, I delete all the apps of my social media. That's how I do it, but we don't get any advice from anyone. Well, that's just me. You're advising yourself. Yeah, I'm advising myself that no deleting all the apps. I have my team who manages everything. So whatever I have to post, I generally send them the photo or whatever.

47:37They will post it. If there is any approval, they will send it back to me for the approvals. If I say yes, no, they'll post it. But I felt whenever I was on a tour, that really helped me a lot. That channeling everything straight.

47:52Michael Vaughan: It's just sensible, isn't it? Yeah.

47:54Sir Alastair Cook: No papers, no readers. Nothing, nothing. Nothing, just focus.

47:59Michael Vaughan: Because you don't really... As much as it's nice to see comments when you're doing really well... Yeah. The temptation I felt... When you do well, you feel like logging, going into the apps, whatever, Instagram, Twitter, whichever, and see all the comments. That's the temptation. But I felt that just temporarily. If you keep your mind focused... Don't look at comments. Don't look at comments. You can watch all the comments, you can see all the comments.

48:31Phil Tufnell: Never do that.

48:32Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah, it's hard not to learn it. Yeah, but you know what's going to be said when you do well. It's like you can't know yourself. I know, but you get 100 and you sneak back into the hotel. You sneak back into the hotel room. But I remember one thing. I mean, you spoke about Indian cricket, but I remember Bainstokes. I mean, we were playing IPL together. And I remember one thing he said once. that try and not see the social media apps. That was in 2017, I guess, when we were playing for the franchisee together. So is it happening here? Does it happen here? I think a lot of the players have... I don't think so, no.

49:16Michael Vaughan: There's a guy called Greg at the ECB. Yes. I think he's the digital. Media guy. I think there's a couple of guys that run their accounts for them. similar to what you're saying in terms of send a picture you know put that on my instagram and it takes the players away from but i think cook is right that you you've got a lot of time in your hotel room at night and the temptation will be there's a bit of things i'll just have a look i used to i couldn't help it oh no i got get away from the game he scored a few runs yeah i mean i don't know and i still do and i did i openly did i got home we put it on and then if just before i got out i turned it off yeah yeah yeah so bad but did you need maureen from york

50:03Sir Alastair Cook: to sort of say well well batted cookie didn't you realize that you're not a lady from york

50:08Michael Vaughan: yeah i think we're waiting i know maureen that's the toughest thing i felt i mean the temptation of opening up the social media but it is not but it is isn't it nice to be told you're good at something no it is good but again it's temporary what people talk things about you or say things about it's all like but what helped me a lot individually going through this you scored runs every time no but creating a routine probably once in I'm in my room just probably having a routine of no watching something on

50:42Phil Tufnell: Netflix or whichever apps or reading a book chapter family would you yeah yes yes yes reading a book good day whatever have you had a good day yes That's quite important. From the spare time, 15, 20 minutes. Forget me, I've been playing in front of 90 ,000. Have you had a good day? For the next day. Ironing my clothes for the next day. Ironing your clothes? Iron your whites? Like it. Yeah, well, nice.

51:05Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah, yeah. I love that. So just, I think, having...

51:10Phil Tufnell: Well, you did that. I would iron my clothes in my room. You'd have starched it back in the middle. Your disco kit, not your whites. I never went to a disc or tech. Richard Blake used to have his disco shirts finished I'm lucky I'm an early bird to bed early bed I reckon I went I went on

51:30Sir Alastair Cook: probably nine I think I went on nine England tours I don't reckon I stayed in one night I can vouch for that. No, because you have to go and eat. You have to go and eat. Didn't have to live through then, did you? No, you have to get out there. But you'd also, that's interesting,

51:52Phil Tufnell: that you're a squad of sort of 16 players. You're not all going to go out together. You know, they're my friends, and I know this guy, and he's an acquaintance. I don't have anything in common with him. But when you go over the line, there's a massive respect that you're in it together. But at night time, you know, I don't sort of mix with him. Meet the bar at seven.

52:12Michael Vaughan: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

52:13Phil Tufnell: Yeah, but some guys will go, they do their own thing. Three would go there, two here, four over there. Yeah. That's how it is, because you've had enough of each other during the day. Absolutely.

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52:31Michael Vaughan: Does playing for India ever become intimidating? Because of, like, the juggernaut of everything that surrounds it. Not really. I didn't feel it at all. Do you see any of the young players coming through now that you can see that it's like, I feel the younger generation, they're more fearless. Because what you get in the IPL is a similar atmosphere to what you get in international cricket. Sometimes people don't come and see international cricket, they come and see IPL matches. the atmosphere, the audience what you get. This generation is there already. Just on the IPL, do you see, and I've seen it over the last 10 years I've been coming to Mumbai, I am seeing an Indian fan that is completely dedicated to the IPL and he's losing that kind of feel for the, particularly the Test team.

53:27Michael Vaughan: Not saying T20 Indian side, not saying the 50, but I'm seeing in Mumbai that Test cricket doesn't have that same... That's the football mentality in the UK, isn't it? They're following Mumbai, KKR, they follow MSD at CSK, they follow Virat at RCB, it's like that is what they follow. And obviously T20 on the back of that, India have won two World Cups.

53:52Phil Tufnell: But equally, when Sachin batted in a Test match and got out, they'd all go. Yeah, but everybody leaves. Do you feel that that's happening? I think so. I think I felt the Test cricket fans, the Test cricket audience...

54:06Sir Alastair Cook: There's a lady up here. What's she doing up here? Cleaning windows. Oh, blive, jeez.

54:13Phil Tufnell: Just wave. The Test cricket fans, Test cricket audience, I felt they're actually proper cricket lovers. Yes. What we built, apart from the last two years, because the new players came in in Test cricket, I still feel Test cricket needs seven to eight of senior cricketers and then two, three younger players. What we are actually seeing now is all the players are actually new. There are hardly senior players left. So Test cricket needs to start. T20, because of IPL, because of T20 globally, the players are ready for everything.

54:54Michael Vaughan: I look at England now, I've been watching the White Ball series against India, and obviously the Test series against New Zealand. If you actually look at England's Test team, it's relatively very, very young, very similar to India. And actually our White Ball team has got all the experience. And you look at India's 50-over team, all the experience playing 50 overs. Yeah. You know, it's the same with the England team with 50-0 as Antich, where our Test team is quite a youngest team now.

55:21Sir Alastair Cook: Absolutely. Do you fear for Test cricket a little bit? Yes, I do. Frankly, yes. Because the way it is going, we all want Test cricket to survive, Test cricket to be there. India, England, Australia, New Zealand, probably South Africa. These four or five teams are actually really good. That's why I see, because what I have seen especially last two, three years, you need to keep and respect the senior players because especially with the Indian team, all the senior players going together at once. That's been the issue.

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57:29Michael Vaughan: 100 coming up you're going to be commentating with the bbc yes which is great Yes mate. We'll be on there.

57:34Sir Alastair Cook: Yeah man, yeah man.

57:35Michael Vaughan: Welcome to the crew. Hang on, walk, walk. Sorry Dave, sorry Dave.

57:40Phil Tufnell: Who's your team in the 100? Elephants. The Elephants, do you follow the Elephants? What's the team? They're Lock Now, Super Giants. They've got his team, Manchester. Super Giants, which is Justin Langer and Tom Moody I think. Yeah, that's them too. And they play in Manchester. Frankly I've not been following 100 but I'm going to follow it now. So that's the honest answer.

57:58Michael Vaughan: London spirit, you're here at Lords. Yeah, that's a good scene. What's your franchise? IPL, what's the IPL one? Who do you play for the IPL? Played for a few. KKR. I'm in the last two years for KKR. Have they bought one of the hundreds? I started with Mumbai Indians. My first three years I played for Mumbai Indians and went for Ajaxan Rao. That's the longest stint. I played eight years. He's played in every year. Yeah. But KKR, they bought an English team.

58:23Sir Alastair Cook: Was that Brendan? No, not at any of KKR.

58:26Michael Vaughan: Did you play under Brendan at KKR? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How was he? Ranjan was good, he was good. In terms of a coach, was he...? He is good, he is good. You've played under Stephen Fleming. You've played under Stephen Fleming. Yes, Stephen Fleming. Who did you play under at Mumbai? Mumbai that time... Mahila? No, no, no. Ricky? That time the coach was... John Wright was the coach. John Wright, nice fella. And then you've played under Baz. Who else have you played under? Played under Ricky. Ricky Ponte? Ooh, Delhi Capitals. How different were all those four coaches?

59:00Sir Alastair Cook: Very different. Who's the best? Who's the best? We're looking for that. I'll probably say I really enjoyed playing under Fleming. Those two years with CSK was really good. From my point of view, from players' point of view, the freedom, what we got. Not T20 cricket. Test cricket is different, but IPL format, the freedom. Because when you fail, the insecurity is always there. as a player, being a player. You always want to play each and every game, but that platform provided by the franchisee and the coaching staff that even if you fail, you go out there and play your game. I thought it was there.

59:39So I really enjoyed playing for CSK and under Stephen Fleming. KKR, I was the captain, so there was no, there was probably the atmosphere was good, but another coach I enjoyed playing under was

59:57Brendan McCallum, but that was only for a year. Were you kept in there with Brendan? No, I was not. But Stephen Fleming. He's just left Chennai, hasn't he? He's quite good mates at Baz, isn't he? Yeah, he is. I know where you're going. Even Rahul was good. When he became the coach for Rajasthan Royals, he was good.

1:00:20Phil Tufnell: The one thing about the IPL which is a fantastic tournament, as we'd all agree is the best. Yeah. You can't criticise it. You get pelted if you, you know, what a wonderful, it's a great experience of fabulous entertainment. However, don't do the however. You mean on commentary? Anything. Anything in social media, you will get pelted.

1:00:44Michael Vaughan: You want to work on Crickbuzz, you'll be OK. You can criticise on that. What's Crickbuzz? Crickbuzz is... Oh, I've seen that. You're going to...

1:00:52Phil Tufnell: Working colleague. into Dubai, is that from Dubai? Mumbai, Mumbai. Great scene. Mumbai, I mean Mumbai is a glorious place. Cutthroat though, cutthroat. What's the greatest city in India? Mumbai, what's the greatest city? What about Bangaluru? I like Bangaluru. What do you like about it?

1:01:11Sir Alastair Cook: Well we got left behind there for two weeks, me and Atherton. Two weeks? Yeah, two weeks we were left there. Everyone else went off to play one day cricket and they left me in that. We became like a little old couple.

1:01:24Michael Vaughan: I'll tell you where it's great, Jaipur. Go and see the tigers in Jaipur. Why do you want to see a tiger?

1:01:30Phil Tufnell: Why do you want to see a tiger? Oh fantastic. Darmashar. It's like people going, oh there's a snake there. Come on.

1:01:38Michael Vaughan: It's honestly going into the jungle and I think they know where they are but they're trying

1:01:48I feel every city in India has their own beauty, but Mumbai has a different vibe. I always, I mean, I'm from Mumbai.

1:01:55Phil Tufnell: It is a great vibe. Rooftop terrace bars. Hard to get around. What's this called? Creek Buzz? Am I in now? Should we get him in? I'm getting to Creek Buzz. Jinx knows the bosses. He is the man. The deal is that I forget them however.

1:02:11Michael Vaughan: Hey, I'll tell you what you get on there. You get the best food delivered to the studio. Do you? You actually talk about food. You don't talk about cricket there. You just talk about food. I'm good at that. I'm good at food. I do food. Half an hour pre-show, a bit in the middle. You can actually order your food. What's the best pub in Mumbai? Best pub, it's at the Willingdon Club. OK. There's a pub there. I think it's called The Lion. Fantastic boozer. Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair

1:02:46Michael Vaughan: Quickfire community questions So we get sent a lot of questions from around the world

1:02:52Phil Tufnell: Who's this one from Mr Aishastri?

1:02:54Michael Vaughan: This one's What makes Virat Kohli the best chaser in whiteboard cricket? That's from Virat Mr B Kohli I think it's his mind. The calculation is mine. But how does he calculate? You've been at the other end. When he's been chasing down a number, what does he do? I try to ask him many times, but... He doesn't give it away? No. He will not give you any clue. His calculation being fearless, at times, knowing when to take risks. Just clear. Knowing when to take risks. Seize the part. It's his ability to play the right shot at the right time.

1:03:39Phil Tufnell: Also, what about that, you know, I'm going to wait, wait, wait till he comes on. Wait till he comes on. Why are you pointing at me? No. But he wouldn't take a bowler for 30, would he? He would just take the bowler for 10. 10, 12, runs hard between the wickets. One which seems a risk but it's not a risk for him and then do it again and again and again. What you said, MS was like that. Wait till the ball is someone... He's coming. Yeah, and then he went, taken deep. No wiggle. But Virat was in his head, the calculation was something different. Hanging over, every time. Thanks for coming.

1:04:10Michael Vaughan: Couldn't get him out. This is actually a question. What is MS Dhoni like? Very calm, very cool. Very normal human being. Just dead? Just like everyone. And it's true he has a suite in the hotel and the doors open 24-7. It was his way, in a subtle way, to tell everyone when his door was open, you can come talk cricket, do whatever you like, sit, relax, chill. So 10, 15, like sometimes whole team was in his room. But when his door was closed, shut, no one was allowed. Sleep time for MS. This is a tough one. Who is the greatest Indian cricketer of all time? Oh wow.

1:04:59Sirivamji.

1:04:59Michael Vaughan: We'll get on to him. I think it's very hard to take one name but...

1:05:06Phil Tufnell: Put it another way, the most influential. Influential, yeah. I feel probably one thing, Sachin Tendulkar. Yeah, I think so. All the errors. He's a guru, isn't he?

1:05:18Michael Vaughan: I saw him at the women's test on the last day he arrived. He is the god, isn't he?

1:05:23Phil Tufnell: I was on a flight, sat next to Sunil Gavaska. Oh, yes. And the team... He's not far off. The team on the flight, every one of them, come up just to touch him and go back. What team? That's what they do to film. The Indian team. Did the Indian team do that to you?

1:05:38Sir Alastair Cook: Sometimes.

1:05:40Phil Tufnell: I touch him.

1:05:41Sir Alastair Cook: Is he real?

1:05:43Phil Tufnell: You look at...

1:05:45Sir Alastair Cook: There's a round of applause.

1:05:47Phil Tufnell: You look at Gavaska, who was a fantastic player, as brave as a lion you know a little diminutive guy and why are they touching him i thought you didn't like animals what do you mean i like gonna see the tigers you mentioning like what do you mean because they're brave lions aren't they they're big but did you mean they're sort of

1:06:06Sir Alastair Cook: touching him because sort of to get a little bit of luck or something you know a little

1:06:09Phil Tufnell: it was a mark because a mark of respect yeah yeah a massive mark of respect yeah and he's good fun he's gotten an opinion as well he got a real opinion as Sunil but he survived oh he's a good age now Sunil Gavaskar and he's still doing it yeah yeah in India we have a tradition of probably taking blessings from you know elderly people yeah grandmother grandfather yeah probably just if someone is senior respecting just bow down in front of them of course Jinx if you remember

1:06:43Michael Vaughan: Remember Sachin, and all the stories about Sachin in Mumbai where he lived, people would queue up outside his house just to get a touch. Do people do that outside your house? I live in an apartment so it's tough to... 18th floor, climb up. I'm on the 44th floor, the top floor. It's tough to come up but people do come up. People do come up. Is there a lift? Yes. Oh gosh. People do come up. What, just to touch it? No, no, no, just to say hello. Yes, that's nice. But again, it feels good. They usually buy me a pint.

1:07:21Phil Tufnell: Just imagine, like, fuck off!

1:07:28Michael Vaughan: Will Suri Vanshi play Test cricket and when? It's tough to say right now, it's tough to comment on right now. I don't want to probably say anything and put pressure on that young kid. Oh. Because there are already people talking about him, a lot about him. Settle down. Settle down. Two IPL seasons. What I realise is, IPL is different and international cricket is completely different. The pressure when you represent your country. Just for a small example, chasing probably 70 runs in IPL in four or five hours is easy. for changing the same amount of fronts in international trade when you're representing your country is different.

1:08:10So let him just play his game, let him just grow. He's a child. He looks immaculate at Wimbledon. What he needs at the moment is the right guidance. Where would that come from?

1:08:27Michael Vaughan: Is that a concern that it might not happen? The first thing is family is really important. Family needs to understand what is important for him. Nowadays you see a lot of glam, you fame, you travel, you see many, many people around you. Family needs to be really strong and tell him what is important and tell him the road next five years, ten years down the line and keep him disciplined.

1:08:52Sir Alastair Cook: Has he got brothers and sisters? 20 years. Yeah, I think he got two brothers. Right.

1:08:58Michael Vaughan: That's a good one. If you were starting your career now, what technique would you change?

1:09:07Sir Alastair Cook: What technique would you change? Or style?

1:09:10Michael Vaughan: Would you play the same way that you've played for the last 15 years? If you were starting today, would you play Zaka the same way? Would you bring a new shot in? Would you play a new shot? The way the game is going is probably playing different shots, being proactive more, taking a lot more risk. When I started playing cricket it was slightly taking lower risk and different brand of cricket though I don't want to change my technique that's how that's what helped me a lot even in T20 cricket keeping my basics really strong I feel there's still room for like you know for technical players you can I felt guys who are really good in their technique basics are strong they can adapt to any any

1:10:05Phil Tufnell: format doesn't doesn't a bowler want a batter to take more risks sorry a bowler would want a batter to take more risks because it brings him into it. Not particularly. It brings a bowler more into it. Not particularly, no.

1:10:19Sir Alastair Cook: I'd love someone to sit there like that with a couple of men round the bat and they're just going to eventually pop it to them.

1:10:25Phil Tufnell: OK, all right. Interesting. I know what you mean. No, I get that. No, I've got you. Yeah.

1:10:31Sir Alastair Cook: When I used to bowl like that, Karl Hooper, Karl Hooper, or someone, the skipper would always go, keep him up mid-off, keep mid-off up, because you know entice him to come down every time hit me for six

1:10:46Michael Vaughan: we'll finish with this one if you could steal one shot from a player I know what you mean which shot are you gonna steal and who I'll probably such inside drive You could play that, can you? Yeah, but still. Still a bit of sense. What about MSD's helicopter? Most of the batters, they do play on, but the elegance, the class, the look, the high elbow.

1:11:18Phil Tufnell: MSD's helicopter. Oh, he's a shumper. I'm going to dislocate the shoulder.

1:11:27Michael Vaughan: Jinx, thank you That's been brilliant Thank you

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