England’s Ashes Collapse, Starc's Masterclass & Adam Gilchrist Joins | Stick to Cricket EP 23

0:00Before we get started, I'd like to thank our partners Betfair. Hit subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Enjoy the show. Metallica were here ten days ago. All that got relayed. Ten days ago? Yeah. Less than two weeks before the test. Phil, are you mics up? Yes, Mike. Right, come on, come on, sit down. Let's just settle. You're in Bumble's seat there. Gilly, Gilly, you can sit there next to me. Bit of sense on this side. Come on, boys, we're going to have to... Come on, put yourselves up. Come on, raise your chin. God, you look low. It's difficult. It's difficult. I can't get it. Can we switch?

0:41So you're in your normal spots there. Yeah, yeah. In your normal spots. Yeah, just rotation. Just rotation. Oh, dear. This one's good, day four. Yeah, lovely. Ready to go? Might just grab a bit. In a flight. Natural wear and tear. What about Kieran? What? What's that? It's a long way to come to watch on TV. I've heard some... The third day he was getting in. I've heard some terrible stories. Well, no, some fella has flown in for day three. Oh, dear. Someone has brought all there for a Christmas... Big Christmas dinner in a box. On day three? On day three, thousands. I mean, thousands just coming up.

1:28I mean, they do feel for... They're all just sort of... All the punters are just a little bit wandering around, you know. You don't think of that, do you? Cottesloe, to be honest, Cottesloe was busy yesterday. I was in Cottesloe. I was at the Shoe Hall or something. The Shorehouse. Shorehouse! Must have been a good day. But that was lovely. Lovely bit of snapper and oysters. Windy, wasn't it? Yeah, it was golly, yeah. And I've never seen it bloody rain in Perth. So, Kieran, what actually happened with you? I saw him before the game. First and foremost he arrived... Kieran, come on. Come and see the...

2:11This is the ground, by the way. It's the first time, isn't it? It's the first time, isn't it? You've been here for ages, haven't you? I've been here for ages, yeah, but I lost my phone on the first day. At what time did you lose? About 10pm. It all shuts at like 11am. So you were pissed? I've had a couple. I was on a high. I've never been to Australia, but I'm the biggest high of my life. I'm here for the asses, can't wait. So we've obviously done the preview. So I've lost my phone. So we've done the preview here, and we've spoken to Cricket Australia, and they've gone, right, you're on the podcast.

2:40You can come in day three, four, and five. So I'm like, child. So then I'm like, all right, do you know what I'll do then? I'll go buy a ticket for day one and just come. So then I've gone to buy a ticket on the V-sale thing, and do you know what it does? It comes up, you put your card details in, it comes up, Can you authenticate it on the app and approve? Obviously I've not got a phone. It's going to look as if I can't buy into it. Well, you'll be right. Next test, you'll be right. You'll be straight in. No, I'm not. I've got to go back. I'm trying to get myself back out for either Laid or Melbourne.

3:17I'll tell you what he did do yesterday. We're down at Corslow and we're in the front bar. And all of a sudden you look outside and there's queues of people. Trying to get in, I think it's the beach bar. Yeah, the beach bar, yeah. He sorted it, didn't he? Didn't he, chef? Did he? Yeah, he sorted it. He was under pressure. No problem. Yeah. Good. Nice, eh? Yeah, got everyone in. Well, there you go. It was a good day, though, isn't it? Yeah, it was, yeah. Well, take a picture of that, Keir, and sort of, you know. Go out and have a bowl, aren't you? Yeah, yeah, I will. That would have been the go.

3:46Get out there and have a hit. Yeah, Tophus, you've got to do your little masterclass out there. Well, I think we'll dissect that over the next 30, 40 minutes. You've got a bad today, Phil, I see behind you. Yeah, I've got Teddy. Teddy, I've got Teddy. I think... He's a bit upset, Teddy. Teddy's upset. Teddy's upset. Come in. He's not out. What were they throwing? What was all the things that were going? Drink holders. Cardboard drink holders. A cardboard, thank God for that. Oh, Jesus, that's going to take someone's eye. Talking out, isn't it? Well, I could feel their frustration. Would there be any animosity from the Barmy Army or do they say true to course?

4:26I think he's a little bit knocking about. I think publicly they'll be right behind the team. I think privately in the bars over the last 24 hours, they'll be lambasted in that performance. Let's be honest, for four sessions, I wouldn't say it went as well as it possibly could, but England are ahead of the game, so far ahead of the game. Didn't back great on day one, lost five for 12 and then they bowled. I mean, that spell on that first afternoon. I mean, that new song the Barmy Army had as well about Steve Smith, yeah. He's in your head. In your head. We were singing. We didn't get a chance to sing.

5:03Marty, Marty, Marty. That one's sort of been put in the bin now, I think. I mean, they didn't even get a chance to sing it. Well, we was in our hotel day one. And as you say, there was people on the tables. We were jumping around and everyone's buzzing went back there and the day to nothing

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5:39Sometimes you've got to set him up a little bit you've got you've got to work inside It was an outside the nightclub scrap Over the Donner Kebab line. This is like judgements time. Have you learnt from 23? And what I saw this week, no they haven't. In four and a half hours, the side has gone from 100 ahead, one down, to losing the game. But it was just a freaking test match. I don't quite know how I feel about it. So what should they have done? Where's my phone? He walked off. He's had enough. 41 % of his innings end in single figures. That's not very good. You've floated one up and I'm going, don't sweep, don't sweep.

6:20Bang. Now, if Harbingen sees this, sorry, I'm not having a go at you, bro. I love you. What lasted longer? Zach Crawley's time at the crease in both innings in Perth. Yeah. The song American Pie by Don McLean.

6:40Let's start this show. I'm hoping we've got a lot to dissect. Gilly, thanks for joining us. Pleasure to have you on Stick to Cricket. Who wants to start? Let's start with a positive, Australia. What do you make of their performance?

6:56Steady. Steady. Obviously, the standout is glaringly obvious, but the rest of it was, well, two standouts. Stark as well as head. Yeah, that first, you know, as equally you could say England were disappointed because four sessions in they were in the commanding position you could say that's a negative for Australia couldn't you that four sessions in they'd almost conceded a test match so but they had the ability to flip it around so clearly a lot of positives out of it but but they'll they'll have a bit of food for thought about not allowing themselves to be in that position again particularly so early in a test match but it was just a freaky test match I don't quite know how I feel about it.

7:43I don't know whether I loved it or not. You say Stark, you know. He's got Matt's best figures and he's set for 58 and everything. It wasn't a vintage Mitchell Stark, was he? He was just clever, he was just skilful, just put it in good areas. He wasn't hooping it around, was he? And we just sort of... England came to him. Yeah. That's how he's improved, hasn't it? Because he used to... He couldn't... Well, he couldn't take wickets, but he mainly took wickets with his swing and then blew tails away. But that ball going across the right hand is a tough ball. Yeah. The only thing I've got about that is like, the top of his mark, he properly puts it into his hands, doesn't it?

8:16So obviously on the TV campus, when you can see it. I'm not saying you might not be able to see it from the batter's end. Yeah. But from the non-striker's end, if you turned around, you're only 20-odd yards away. Don't stop. Here we go. I don't know where you're going with this. But like, you can see it. You can see it. Thorpey used to do that, though, against Wazimakram. He used to say, well, I can see it, so if I've got my bat in my left hand and it'll be right and then you forget and you get it in the wrong oh yeah you've got to trust your partner haven't you leaving it with your off hold it's got to be worth a chat about I agree because that's a tough ball to face as a right hander you're setting up for it coming in but if you know what way it's going to do your mate can help you a little bit I mean they've got to discuss it he's got 10 wickets basically he got bowled out by Mitchell Stark so if you take him out then the other ones aren't you're right If you're looking into every detail, trying to play the opposition better, some bars might say, I don't want that.

9:14But there might be someone that says, please, yeah, I'll take that and I'll trust you. They're not known for being thorough in their minor detail of preparation this England unit though, are they? I mean, does that discussion come up between the fourth and fifth hole? Or do you do that at the turn? The thing is, Gillibrand, there's many there. Do it, do it. The turn in the clubhouse before you go out for the back. The more I think... I've thought of something, lads. Yeah. The more I think about what England have done to prepare for this... Yeah. And I've put it in my Telegraph article, is that if Thomas Tuchel goes to the World Cup next year...

9:49Yeah. And say the first game's in Orlando, I don't know who they'll be playing, but say it's in Orlando, and they know it's going to be a... What's Tuchel, sorry? The England football manager. Oh, right, yes. Yes, yes. We're one football now. I'm just trying to... I'm going to give you a similar kind of scenario of football. So Thomas... He arrives at the hour already. Is that what you were thinking? Oh, you want two goals to replace Baz? Why do you want to go 4-4-2? You want to go off? Sorry, you lost me, Mike. Yeah, so he goes to America and the week before, he gets asked about, you know, the first game's in line, it's a quick pitch, fizzy pitch.

10:19And he says, Simon, how is your team prepared? Well, this week we're going to bring a load of our reserves over and we're going to play a game of football, but we're going to play on a pitch that's got real long grass in it. So the pitch will be slow. and I tell you what, we won't play 90 minutes, we're going to play 45. What would happen? It's like Tiger Woods going to the Masters. He arrives at the Masters. Tiger, how have you prepared? I've been on the crazy golf. I've got a couple through the windmill. Through the windmill. Through the windmill. And I'm ready. But it is similar. You're disappointed with this preparation, Mike, aren't you?

10:48Well, I just don't think they're giving themselves the best chance. No. And has your suggestion, has that fallen on deaf ears, about between now and Brisbane? Well, I believe two days of cricket here, you know they had two days of test match cricket so they've got three days off that they didn't put in the budget so they've got that now there's a two-day pink ball game in canberra yeah which starts in a few days time the next test is a pink ball game where australia have only ever lost one pink ball test match mitchell stark's just got 10 here he's a wizard with the pink ball am i so old school to suggest that by playing a game of cricket and by the way it's a pink ball game of cricket to prepare yourself to play a pink ball game of cricket is professionalism it's professionalism is it's not i feel if they don't play in that game and there'll be probably four or five players if they don't that will arrive at the gabba to play a pink ball test match a pink ball game for the first time in their career that can't be right it can't be well you know some of cullen at the end of it spoke to us on the tv and it's like you know one of the main strengths of the squad is staying together.

11:55And I agree there, they seem to be, you know, well, a good unit. So just all go to camp for that. Like, all the bowlers don't have to bowl. Like, Archer doesn't have to bowl. Like, they don't have to frog the big guys. But even the bowlers, Jack, they've been out in the field for 70 overs. They're going to have, why wouldn't the team want, why wouldn't they want to play? That's my concern. Is it too much of an admission of getting it wrong? to do that big change now? Is that like, oh, that's showing signs of panic? That's what it is. You reckon? Yeah, I honestly think that's exactly what it is.

12:33If they suddenly change their schedule now, it's almost an admission that they got it wrong here. But I see that as a strength, being able to do that. Yeah, I do. Well, no, I see that as a, you know, right, OK, hold your hands up sometimes. We didn't quite get that right, so we're going to try and put it right by doing that. I don't, you know, you know, mission of getting it wrong and everything. Who cares, really? You know what I mean? The England fans care. No, no, but you know what I mean? Sometimes you've just got to say, like you said, right, okay, we're all going here. You know, I don't care if that shows that there's a bit of panic or anything, because it's going to be good for us.

13:08I would say that you're learning. Yeah. I don't think it's panic. For me, it's just like the top seven are batted for six-year-old overs. Six-seven point five overs, they're bad. Oh, that was. Six-seven point five overs. In two minutes. So Alistair, just to bring up a stat about you, in your double century in 2010, you faced more balls in that one innings than the whole of the England team did here. No, come on. What was your stat about the wickets? So I got this sent last night. It says wickets taken in the first Ashes test by country of birth. So Australia had 20 wickets. New Zealand, Ben Stokes got five.

13:49South Africa, riding cars got five. Geoff Rarcher from Barbados got two. England, we didn't get a wicket. Listen. We didn't get a wicket. No, come on. We're missing a belt. We haven't got a wicket there. We're trying to laugh off the disappointment here. It was disappointing. it was with how much have we been talking on the all there was was talking to you about please get you back watch the start of the game get you back i like your toweling shirt as well yeah it's nice isn't it nice yeah come on what should have happened phil well listen and i another thing i think i think that uh boland scott boland changed his tactic didn't he first innings he was trying lbw's bold and trying to play that under playable ball he just went well hold on a minute if they're for me why don't we hang it out about six or seven and that's exactly what you said here yesterday or the other day right i'll i'll interrupt there just quickly you're spot on bowling changed the game yeah he's wicked of duck it so he didn't go fishing he just nipped him down that was a good ball that changed the complete direction of that game but then he went he just went to the right hand if you're coming for if you're going to be looking to come for me yeah and you're hitting me good ball and that's because that's where they were getting it well ollie pope lined up the straight ball as well as i've seen as well as he's ever done i'm hanging it out there yeah if you want to come to me come to me and you said the other day right he said it's that shot in it high elbow it was too high elbow usually it's that well when we used to come over here we were all like that licking it off there all the boys how many how many wide deliveries did we play so what What should they have done?

15:37Well, Dorney, you're... I don't think they should have done it. Where's me phone? He's walked off. He's had enough.

15:49He's had enough. Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair. Come on, no, no. I'll tell you what they should have done. Right, what have we got? Even Dorney, my Dorney, oh, blimey, Dorney.

16:11that's where is here even me dawny has got a little visit god i can't find the bloody thing even me dawny what's she done she's what's it leave just leave just leave just leave a little video of a leave what she just thinks that the england team should have left what did she actually What do you say? Once in a while you've got to leave a few boys. That's sage advice. Do you think you can send that on to the team? I will do. I will do. And then, listen, I'm sitting here with three fantastic batsmen, you know, and he always gets me doing this. But then... Go on, go on. But then, as you say, out there, out there, out there, you're getting worn out, you're not getting any sort of wickets or people aren't going after, then you have to come a bit straighter, don't you?

17:04Then what happens, though? Well, then you go back into Nottingham right under the eyes, right under the eyes, like Ducky was doing in the first innings, and Pope was doing it in the first. Am I right or am I wrong? Incense, Tuffins. Thanks, man. Teddy's not happy. I will ask, right? And I'll go back to the Oval, when England needed 30 in that last morning. Five weeks in, and that's safe for because Chris won't. Watch out for Teddy. Sorry, Teddy. Say apologise to him. Sorry, Teddy. So the last morning against India, they needed 30, and we spoke afterwards that we can't imagine that the England side would have sat in that dressing room and gone, lads, just settle.

17:41Let them come to us. Don't make any glaring errors in the first five or six overs. It'll be hostile, it'll be a great atmosphere. See that through, you win the game. They didn't, they played all the shots, they left the game. And I go to lunch on day two here, England 99 ahead, one wicket down. Surely they would have realised that Steve Smith didn't look like that he wanted to use Cameron Green because obviously they're trying to look after his body. Nathan Lyon was knackered and you wouldn't mind facing Nathan, no disrespect on the pitch that we played here in Perth. Stark already bowled quite a few hours and Bowling clearly before Lung to come up with a new plan.

18:15Do you think... And you've got a debutant. And you've got a debutant. Do you think this team would ever sit down and just go, I know we like to play expansively. That's our natural game but mental toughness for me is going against your natural trait. and if they'd have sat in that drafts and gone, just for an hour, lads, come on, just for an hour. If we can get bowling out of four more overs, get maybe one more spell from Stark, see out of the day, pitch will get better. But it's just to say that Owls, if they not quite would have won the game in that hour, they've only lost one wicket in that next hour after much.

18:48130 ahead. Like, the game's there. Lost nine. It's like this team haven't won the big moments in big series like that, have they? What, um, have a hard period and it's meant to. In that, if it wasn't Bolin's last over before lunch, I'm pretty sure it was, Duckett charged him. Oh yeah. And he, he sort of gave himself room and went down and hit him up on the elbow or something. Yeah. He'll play up a bit. Like that's just before a big break. I, I, yeah, I think Stokesy spoke about being brave. He mentioned the word brave a number of times to Ishigura in the post-match presentation, I would assume in all the press conferences he would have used the term brave.

19:30You can be brave in defence too. You can be brave in adapting and changing and I guess that's the key learnings and they'll be, it's a bit of a, it is an easy pile-in isn't it? I'm sure they'll be aware of all that and they'll be working through all that. I think the pile-in Gilly is because the buzz ball way has been with us for a while and in the summer against India, when Bumrah played, England played very sensibly against Jasper Bumrah. Saw him off. And they just played, they left the ball, they didn't chase him. I didn't see too many dance downs trying to launch. They had a game plan against Bumrah from what I saw is, get rid of him, we'll score at the other end.

20:09I've not seen that here, and that's why I'm disappointed, because 2023, Edgbaston in the second innings, they should have won that game easily. The gifted Nathan Lyme five wickets, Australia went 1-0 up, England should have won that game. And Lords a week later, 185 for one in the first innings. Nathan Lyons, unfortunately, being stretched off. We then get bowled out, taking on the short ball. So they went 2-0 down in 2023. And we all gave them a little bit of rope because they were just at the start of this journey. This is like judgment's time. Have you learnt from 23? And what I saw this week, and the honest answer is, no, they haven't.

20:43Which disappoints me because this England side, with the pitches that we see here in Australia, where you don't need a world-class spinner from what I've seen in the last few years. You need pace, you need skill. They've got the tools with the ball, probably more tool than any other England team that we've seen, and they've got a batting unit that's got so much talent. And when you see it wasted, you go, oh, lads. Do you think they're a bit unnerved by that wicket? Do you know, like, the first inning's like, you know, a few blows to everyone, and there's a second is thinking, well, you know, the run towards the danger.

21:12Yeah. Like, you know, Ducky running down second to last ball before that. In their head, do they think this wicket, it's only going to get worse. It's a nightmare wicket. And I think it was a tough wicket. I don't think... Again, Cookie, I'll go... It didn't feel like a two-day, did it? I'll go back to this team. Do they really strategically look at everything? Because last year, we were here against India. Guess what happened? The first day, there were 17 wickets. Exactly the same that happened here on day one. There was 19 wickets. So the pitch looked like a minefield on day one. Last year, it did on day one here.

21:43Then it did a little bit more on day two. just for a short while and then it got better and better and better and jaiaswell got 100 virak got 100. now if you're doing your research properly about a venue surely you'd have looked back at like yeah last year and thought to the team that's why that chat at lunch on day two was so important to just go we might just have to really fight for an hour or two yeah this place gets better yeah yeah i think i think you might be right about that pitch it was almost like well crikey come on let's just it was almost like they hadn't formulated a plan about a stay there and then b slowly get back on top you know it was like like come on a quick 30 it might just win the game a quick 40 might win a game there's a pause in there as well so it wasn't we're not saying it wasn't flat wicket by any stretch we just never saw the wicket with a slightly softer ball on did we it was a good cricket wicket i thought which which then you moved from the batting to the tactics of the bowling 10 overs in in a run chase where all of us in the press box was a long 200 it might be 30 or 40 too many yeah it's going to be challenging this obviously Travis Head comes out and within 10 overs that's more bit yeah yeah but within 10 overs you've gone short a short pitch bowling theory on a pitch that have been creating nick opportunities throughout the day and a half I think that's what Travis Head does to people because you think if I pitch it up he he can hit you carve you can't you're so scared of him just backing away and carving a few with the fact that he has got out of the short balls i can half understand that tactic and that's why travis head is such a dangerous player yeah that was a great move it's a sport move well it's a story i think he's gone in the dressing room hasn't he and i'll do it i think he's he's been the player that's gone in and said i'll open the back he tried he said he did first innings i think he'd thrown his he's out in the ring a few times and even in that second innings that took a few rounds of negotiation before they finally I mean geez Nathan Lyon they were talking about him Jesus I reckon I think they got the right call

23:50that could be a you know for Australian cricket I mean I know he's opened in Sri Lanka he's opening white ball cricket yeah but I see that Travis will probably almost position himself at the top you will allow someone like Josh English to bat at number five. I don't know how quite good English is but I think England should almost want him at the top of the order head because you could lick him. It came off this time but head at five scares me like more than it does head at the top. Side bowlers. What's frustrating about the whole thing is like Australia turned on Australia in the first after 70 overs of cricket.

24:28Yeah. You know the rumours about stuff about they wanting Webster to play not Lyon to play. Smith was angry that he had about three Labashain had to open, do you know what I mean? All that stuff. Well, the headlines on day two were about Usman Khawaja playing golf and obviously had that back spasm. On day one, had to bat a four, didn't get many runs. England are ahead of the game. And you're right, the kind of... The build-up here was all battering England as you always get. And then within a day, England kind of grabbed the whole momentum. We won in 10-11 and it took us until Melbourne to turn the Australian press against their players.

25:01It took one day here. It did? It was similar last year, actually. Was it? Yeah, against India. There was talk of issues within the team and this sort of unit that's been together starting to fragment, but it's proven completely wrong by the end of the summer. And they held firm on it and had Cummins laughed it off and they turned it around. Those conversations are easy now, aren't they? Like Smith, you know, once you think, yeah, geez, I was a bit first day and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, sorry buddy, next time I always play. Do you know what I mean? Because we've won, so you can have, but if you lost.

25:35They look a bit rattled that first day, didn't they? Yeah, that's what I said right at the start. It was an okay performance by Australia. Yeah. You know, bookended by two bits of brilliance from a fast bowler and Travis Head. But there's areas that they'll be looking and be concerned. If England can choose to roll out that same bowling unit, they execute in the manner they did. That was world-class. It was. Fast bowling as a unit, wasn't it? That first inning by England. It's Indian life, isn't it? One after the other. Whoever he brought on was bowling again at 140 clicks. Average 87.5 miles an hour of that attack.

26:13Did it? Yeah. In the first inning. Yeah, I think it's since 2006 where everything's been registered. I think it's the quickest. Quickest. For England, yeah. Stick to Cricket is brought to you by BatFat. England positives, Ollie Pope played it all right, I thought. It looked a little bit less sort of tense. Harry Brook in the first innings, he has got a little bit of genius in him, Harry Brook. Well, then you get what you get in the second innings, where he plays that big drive, third ball and he gets out. So, you know, Harry Brook is going to have to play some remarkable innings in this series.

26:50The only problem I have, I've done some research. Oh, go on, man. So under Ben Stokes in this team, England have been bowled out nine times in under 40 overs. Wow. And 12 or 13 times in under 50 overs. Really? And my problem with that, all right, they're scoring at four and a half, so they're still getting over 200 generally when they do. My issue is that bowling attack that we're talking about, you can't give them 35 overs rest. No, McCullough. And it's not 30. Is he? Well, it's not 35 overs, is it? because as a bowler you've been one philip number 11 what you want really when you've had a day in the dirt and your team go out the back you called the cat for a reason you want to sleep and stuart broad jimmy anderson 2010-11 they talk about at brisbane they slept so much because he was out there for hours don't forget the wickies they like them yeah well jamie smith basically getting his pads on 10 minutes after coming off the field these days because we're losing early wickets and that's tickling the hips.

27:51It's not been hot this week, but it will get hotter. So sometimes you're batting, you have to bat for your bowlers. You're told off in a 50-over game if you don't survive on the 50. You would have posted a competitive title if they played all 50. Might have been game change. You could have won. But McCullough mentioned that, actually. He's never mentioned that before, ever. Saying, yeah, we've got to find our way to give our boys more time off their feet if we want them to bowl up. because their speeds were down second week. Someone said it was only 1 by 1k, but it looked a lot more on that. I'm sorry, I think those stats are wrong.

28:27And also, you know, when you have three knocks like that, there's always going to be a Traverse-ed knock round the corner. You can't keep going at a well, can you? To get bowled out. My love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, if you look at it, England this week, I think, had... England had the best team that they could possibly have for these conditions. Absolutely. That was England's best team. It wasn't Australia's best team. No. and my worry for england is that australia will get better and if it does is that travis said goes right i'm gonna i'm gonna know something i don't know what's gonna happen girl with us but say travis goes i'm gonna be the opening batter now and josh in this comes at five then you got green at six alex carrie at seven they might not play the spinner with the pink ball so they might end up with beau webster at eight say cummings comes back in nine start ten bowl and eleven you're looking at an australian go how the do you beat that that's a bit of a battery in it i mean so australia from here on in they will get better so england have got to raise their standards and their performance levels to this they've always said it's going to take sorry it's always take some something special yeah you look at history something special broad and 86 87 and ever in 2010 it does take that's you first miles i'm going to say but some freaky performance like no i averaged 100 i never had 100 playing school boy cricket so like five games yes and i think that's the frustrating bit because we we had produced something special that bowling lot first didn't it that was that that was the specialness that's what i was gonna say what whether it's something special or whatever you want to call it just get play to your potential that lies within and and and just harness it because waking up even this morning let alone yesterday waking up this morning which should be day four still what's the time they still looks good yeah there's still two full days of play left um that should be a lesson in itself okay just slow it down and harness what we've got because i agree this england team can compete fair and squarely with this strain team in these conditions they just harness it and channel it you've just hit the nail on the head we've had a full day bender and there's still two days to go The liver.

30:39The liver's... The liver's crying out. They're hurting our health. I was going to say, is it bad for Tess Cruz? Who cares? It's bad for the health. It really is. Let's go through a couple of individuals. Zach Crawley, pairing the match. I think it was on the Ashes debate. You said he's probably the safest player in the team. Because he's like... He's been chosen to play the way that England want him to play and they've gone consistent over three years for here. This is why they've been so consistent and the first time of asking I mean I think if you played Zach Crawley bingo I think the first over the test match you've probably got the full house haven't you?

31:22Big big drives and then gets out playing the big drive that's pretty much the way that Australia will ball to him. They're going to go full, they're going to try and get him driving. He might get away with a few but you would think on these wickets against the quality there's a good chance that he will sneak quite a few well i think going into series we said if he plays this is mad and there's an opening batter if they're england are happy with three innings out of him that's what he's done in the past that's why he keeps playing and those three innings tends to change the momentum of the game they do like he gets an 80 he gets 100 it tends to be unbelievable innings he plays he plays the best he's the best batter to ever average in terms of some of the standards he's playing.

31:59He's like, incredible interviews. So actually, he's now going to deliver, you know, three out of eight now for him to work. Now, I saw a stat, a union stat, 41 % of his innings end in single figures as an opening batsman. That's not very good. But that ain't changing. What an elf. Thanks for that, Phil. Well, no. So that's not changing, is it? Wait a minute, what's going on here? They're getting ready for the Anthems here. Let's do it. It's a poor turn now. It's a poor turn. Are the umpires on the way?

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32:51He didn't play the last three rounds because I believe that he, you know, England don't think that the county game is suited to his style. That worries me, actually, that he personally doesn't want to play and didn't say, well, I'm a one-format player at the minute. It might become a white ball player for him. We'll have to wait and see. But do you have any concerns that he wouldn't want to play in those games leading into a series over here? Zach Crawley is doing what Zach Crawley does, doesn't he? He's been picked. He's been back for three years for this moment. the decision on Zach Crawley will be whether this works over the next eight innings.

33:28OK, he's grabbed a pair, which is horrendous, but... It happens. It happens, doesn't it? And that's just, you know, that is what it is. But for me, it doesn't change anything about Zach Crawley. At best, I think England have kind of consigned themselves that if he plays three, hopefully four innings in this series, just, you know, what do we kind of say about consistency? I'm not bothered. We want him to go and change again. That's why he's employed. That's why he's been picked to the top of the order. He does play innings, which I look at him. It's unbelievable. But they're just backing. They've backed him.

34:00They can't change now. They won't change until after Sydney. They've had enough as well. What a noise there. It's challenging for us here today, aren't they? Maybe it's just because I'm talking. They're like, oh, take him out. Sir Alistair. Anyway, so, yeah, he plays. All the way through. All the way through for me. And then at Sydney, if it hasn't gone well for this team, Unfortunately, there's you know, you can't average 30 or less than 30 if he doesn't do well. That's what it'll end up being I'm off to 60 games. So say it's saying Brisbane he has a couple more failures in England lose you're still sticking with him.

34:32Yeah Well, what options do they have on tour? I know they got a B squad here or a second Well, Jacob Bethel is this spare batter in the squad to throw him at the top Are they will Jackson in the same well in the squad needs a middle order play. He's a middle order Jacob's a middle order three Hasn't paid much to rank. Have we got a gloomer? Have we got a gloomer? Have we got a gloomer? Have we got someone who can just... I saw Trez with a mitten at... Well, he'd be alright, Trez. I actually don't think... What the single side have done in three years and almost said to all players within the game is if you want to be in our set-up, you've got to play shot.

35:09But they're allowed to have that. You're going to say you've got to have a lower than five handicap. Well, most of them have that as well. Well, that is, I actually think it's fine. When you're in a position of power and leadership, you can do exactly what you want, but then you get judged on it. And this is judgment time. And if it works, it works. And at the minute, they've had one opportunity here in Australia. It hasn't worked. I don't think they're looking for an Alistair Cook style player. No, I agree they should be looking for an Alistair Cook style player. I think it's exactly what England need at the top of the order.

35:41You're right. Judgment time will be at the end of the series. This team is capable of threatening Australia if they allow their full potential to come through. Just out of interest. Pair? Pair? No. Not in international cricket. Couple. Only a couple? Righto. Well, I'll raise you, though. King pair? Oh, have you? No. I know where you've got your king pair. You've got a shanket. Is it Sri Lanka? India. Calcutta. Harbyshung. Yeah, you got a hundred off 84 balls in the first test. Oh, that way nice. I thought, what the? Well, the Australian cricket team's been doing in India for 31 years that we can't win here.

36:24A hundred off 84 balls, we cleaned them in three days. There was a tour match. Now, there might be something in this for the English. That's why I bring it up. There was a tour match between the first and second test. And I was afforded the option of playing the tour match or not. And I thought, nah, enough. I've done my work already. I'm cool my jets for a while. Ended up during the tour match getting into the nets and, you know, feeling good. So I might just start practising the reverse sweep just to add a little bit to the repertoire. This is 2001 when reverse sweeps were a scarce commodity.

37:00Spent time doing that. You know, feeling good, feeling funky. First ball. Next game, King Pair, the first in Australian cricket history. And you didn't play the reverse sweep first ball. Oh, no, no. The harder he got you. Harbison got me LBW. I was in the middle of a hat-trick. Warnie got out for the hat-trick. Next inning, Sachin got me sweeping. Sachin? Tendulkar. Bowling off his. What leg is? He bowled a little leggy. He left. We were trying to save the test match. It's the unlosable test. A bit like what England were in here. And he left the complete leg side open. I had men all around the bat and all that.

37:44And he just floated one up and I'm going, don't sweep, don't sweep. So King Pear, first in Australian cricket history. Ryan Harris, now you might have been playing the game in Adelaide. Ryan Harris joined me in the King Pear club. But he becomes chairman of the two-member club because he burnt two reviews. Two. One. He went up there and opened a review. There was no reviews back then. No reviews. No, it was. No, the review. I never won. I would not have been out in the first inning. I pitched the outside leg, got it. Now, if Harbogen sees this, sorry, I'm not having a go at it, bro. I love you.

38:22But the facts are, pitched the outside leg, I smashed it. The poor umpire band, so I was up with them. Plum in the second inning. So anyway, that just got me thinking about the moral to the story. In between games, don't take anything for granted. Work hard. Joe Rue. Yeah. Any concerns? He got a ball first, then he got belted. Yeah, he went across him. Went across him. If Gerard's playing at his best, I still think he can survive that ball. Yeah, and if he's playing at his best, he's not chasing that one, is he? Yeah, I think he... It's not negative. I just think that channel ball here in Australia that he's going to try and own, just for the first 20, 30 balls, I think he should let those go through and let Australia come to him.

39:10Yeah, absolutely. Align himself just to go straight, go straight. If he gets a cut shot away, fantastic. If he gets a real full one, still take it on. But that channel that they're going to bowl into length to him, I just think he can... What did Dorney say? Got to leave a few sometimes. I think he can just leave a few. I think he should be that player in this team, and he's such a great player, to be that glue. You talk about glue. We don't really have an attritional player at the top. We have a world-class attritional player at number four. It's not being negative. It's just Joe's brilliant when he's busy and he can still be busy, but being busy leave a few, get his eye in and then he can start the own channel once that ball gets a little bit older.

39:46I mean, it's a slow run that Stark's got him both times as well and Stark's got Stokes at both times. He's got a good record in both ways. I think he's had him 11 times, hasn't he? Fantastic, yeah. Which is up there with probably one, I think 11 or 12, isn't he? That's starting to become very regular there. So that is a little bit of a concern. So there's some work to do for those two against just the alignment of Stark. Mmm. Mmm. Just reflect. I mean, yeah. How closely do you scrutinise every player and every... It was just such a weird game. Again, I... Did you enjoy it? I don't know. I really don't know.

40:24It was entertaining. I loved the first day. There was action. Oh, the first day was crap. I loved watching what... I loved watching Mitchell Stark deliver. It wasn't, as you said earlier, vintage hooping. It was a proper senior player taking on responsibility to try to be disciplined in one area, and England came to him. But his determination and just everything about him was like, this is my time to step up. And he's, for whatever reason, it's almost like he's been under the radar to Cummins and Hazelwood and even Lyons, you know, climbed up the rankings of wicket-takers. Even some of the bowlers from your, like McGrath, has obviously mentioned with the greats of the game.

41:09Mitchell Stark, until this week, I've not really heard anyone mention Mitchell Stark in the top echelon. But I think he deserves to be in that game. He's only the second Aussie fast bowler to get to 100 test matches. I think behind Pigeon. I think I'm right in saying that. But I did enjoy that. I enjoyed the England bowling, watching that unit work. and then they too obviously enjoyed Travis Head's innings but I don't know was it a great test match was it an amazing big turnaround no doubt about it but I just don't know whether it's I'm not sure so I don't know what to feel on it yeah and I again reserve judgment on on England and it rather than scrutinize every player it's a bit like it just didn't happen so I'm prepared to looking further afield or further down the track.

42:05It was like a heavyweight boxing battle, wasn't it? Yeah. And they just came out swinging on day one. It was... I mean, I'd say first test match, you know what I mean, it felt everyone was... It was like it was fizzing, you know what I mean? It's been fizzing and all of a sudden someone's just popped the top off and it's all just gone... I think that's what it is. All the build-up... All the build-up, all the hype, and we all came here, our cows were wagging. It felt like back when we were playing. The night before, I was like, I haven't felt this since playing. I cannot wait to get there tomorrow.

42:42And day one happened. It was like, whoa, we're all a bit shell-shot. And then it happened again. And now we're sitting here wishing we were watching a good contest. Day one, you can almost explain with the anxiety. But I don't think anyone's been able to explain day two. I don't think anyone has been able to, say, in four and a half hours, as the side has gone from 100 ahead, one down, to losing the game. I don't think it's ever happened. Four hours. Can England come back? Sometimes. Sorry, I like your boxing. I like your boxing. It's just like coming out there and just going like that. Sometimes you've got to set him up a little bit.

43:18You've got to work inside. You've got to work the inside. England, everywhere. They went for the second round knockout, didn't they? Yeah, they did. They weren't going for 12 rounds. It wasn't the highest quality cricket. It wasn't Muhammad Ali versus Jordan Forman. It wasn't like you're going to think that. It wasn't, though. What were we talking? It was a good domestic dust. Frank Bruno. Tyson. It was an outside the nightclub scrap. No referees. Over the Donna Kebab line. Oh, and it's for the time then. Tomato go, there's a bit of meat go, a bit of lamb. Squared a bit of ketchup. And then Travis came in and hoovered it all up.

44:03He just cleaned the whole thing out. A lot of big uppercut. So England positive, yeah? The bowling? Yes, positive. The bowling I liked. I thought Ollie Pope looked a lot more in control. You know, can they? You've got to stay positive, haven't you? But then we've got Big Mitch with one of these, haven't we? I don't, don't. Pat goes alright with those too. Does he? He won't even hear. I forgot about Pat Cummings. He could come back. Scottie Bowman found a bit of thorn. If England don't start well in Brisbane, I've never saw just that last hour, there's only two hours, but after half an hour, I've never seen England side look under Ben Stokes like weeks when we were behind the game.

44:50They looked broken so early on in that check. They almost thought when they're 104 on, they knew it was done it's a good joffra didn't reproduce right from the top what he did in the first innings did he and and was that is that a travis head factor i think so yeah sorry no and also just time it's happened so quickly in it that they were shocked as well yeah like it was nine nine of the session i saw woody at lunch just walking you know like we're out there he's just I love to be back these next two sessions out of my body, you know, give my time and suddenly, two hours later. If you don't get early wickets on a chase like that, you've got to be 30-3.

45:30I looked at Stokes here and I've never seen him on a cricket field really look like he didn't have many answers. And if you ask me about Carlos Brathwaite when he hit those four sixes in the T20 World Cup final in Calcutta and two days ago here, it's the only time I've seen Ben Stokes on a cricket field look a bit lost. Two times in his whole career. It wouldn't surprise me in Brisbane if England lost the toss. These things happen. And the toss is so important for the pink ball game. Yes. Do you think we should have had a bowl on that? No. No. No, they made the right call. I mean, let us go back to them in the first innings.

46:09They lose five for 12. Absolutely. They should have got 252-70 in the first innings. Yeah. Australia would have been batting a little bit later, the pitch probably would have got a bit better. So they probably wouldn't have bought Australia. But by the time England bat in the third innings, the pitch would have been even better. There's skill in, I mean, Jamie Smith, I think he's an exceptionally exciting cricketer. I've loved watching what he's put together so far. But yeah, him playing that, that tail batting so recklessly at the back end of that first innings. There is a skill in batting with the tail if you're a number seven.

46:41and you do have to take risk at some point because the field will be spread and you've got to pick the time when you think you can either maybe get it over the fence or when you take your singles or your twos or whatever. Just flaying away every ball. It's a meek surrender, that. Even right down to number 10 and 11. That's very satisfying, as we all know, in the field. You go, oh, the cross were off here. The skill in travelling. And Davey Warner did a bit of a demo on the pitch. one of the mornings and he talked about the square of the wicket boundaries here 8-2 metres Huge So what you have to do you have to get inside the line to go down to the shorter boundary and that's exactly what Travis Head did he went inside the line or he went over third he never looked to hit square of the wicket whereas a lot of our players in the first inning were trying to hit in front I know they hit a golf ball 300 yards but 8-2 metres it is huge There's a difference between England and Australia like the conditions in England it's patting the tail do you know what it's a 60 yard hit Yeah, he actually did hit them 70 meters.

47:43Yeah cool 70 million. He's in many six at Trent bridge edge baston Had only every ground there are things Interestingly the gab is pretty big square to yeah without that. Yeah without that little not from Atkinson and cars guy with number hundred Well, it could have been the mighty on day

48:05Stick to cricket is brought to you by Betfair Lads, we're going to finish with a few community questions and then I've got a small quiz for you. Community questions. Do you think that a two-day test match packed full of excitement is ultimately a good or bad thing for the test format? I will start with I think WA or whoever has lost five or six million dollars of his ground you say we might next time you actually play here they might take a little bit more grass off that wicket and guarantee at least four days but it wasn't the wicket why it finished in two days well I mean I think that we get played a bit of a part and the Steve Smith you know he's probably one of the best batters ever there's some very good players on there and they said it was tough I think we all agree it wasn't 170 wicket yeah 120 wicket but if you run this place and you've got the best that one of the best days I've ever been to ours really I was sad it wasn't like a lot of luck but this is another level is it's fantastic it is a good quick wicket I mean you must be thinking Jesus like all these people there yeah it must be someone's licking their wound some of them I'm disappointed we're not sitting there now now listen I'm all for a quick game quick games a good guy but I'm disappointed I'm not sitting out and sitting there watching the boys having a runabout.

49:34And that's what's so weird about the concept of it being a two-day game. Any occasional two-dayer is normally a shit-tip, isn't it? Either ragging square first ball or popping through the top. But it certainly wasn't that. It poses a lot of threats to every batsman that walks out there. It's challenging, but there's been statistically over the, What's that six test matches now at this venue? There's been some some fine innings played. Yeah, I Don't think it's a great thing. No, there's a good one other than cricket. What are you looking forward to in Brisbane? Well, I'm not in Brisbane, so you can't answer that question right.

50:17Yep I'm looking forward to getting down to the Howard Smith wharves down on the river, you know where we go for a walk. Yeah Walk around the river in the morning and then be, oh, it's a day nighter though, isn't it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, we'll go straight after play. I know where you're going with this. Okay. We could have some of your... Social city, Brisbane. You know Gilly's got his own tequila. Oh, no. They're stocking it down there. Mr. Percival's is the bar underneath Story Bridge Hotel. Lovely. We're in there. We've been there before. Yeah, and it's called... What's it? El Aqueiro. El Aqueiro.

50:49Do you know what that stands for? Wicketkeeper. Nearly? Does it? Nearly. Oh, does he? The keeper. Oh, does he? Yeah, it's fantastic. There's something here, actually. Just have a little smile. Oh, it's fantastic. Phil, Brisbane, you're just...? Brisbane, well, I might go back to see my university that I went to, Queensland University. What did you do there? Did you have an appearance or something? No, a bit of left arm spin. I played for Queensland Uni. Did you? Yeah, the only time I've ever been to university. or ever seen the bloody university, but that was good fun. Right, last community question.

51:28Should England play a practice match between now and the second test? Yes, the top seven should definitely be batting in the middle practice under pressure. Against the big ball. Philip? Yes. Listen, I've said it before. We played every bloody... We played the Farmers' 11s, we played the President's 11s and won sod all. So, listen, so you're saying no? Well, no, I think, listen, a few of the boys should go and have a knock, for sure. Of course they should. I tell you what, it's going to be a very, very brave England quiggler that steps up to the first tee for the first time. Yeah. Between Testaments.

52:04Long lens. The long lens out of the bullshit. It's going to be covered, aren't it? You'd want to get that first drive away really well. Well, I reckon they probably got told not to play. I would assume that. Yeah, but I think they might be playing today. today. Do you think they'll get what you, are they going to go? I don't think they're going. I think they had a pre-planned schedule for the tour. It was that three-day Lilac Kill game that was in against the Lions and then I think this is their breathing time. They think it's better for the players to switch off and relax and as I say it's their method.

52:38We will judge it on the result at the end. I would have thought that personal pride, personal professionalism would say that all the players should be getting together saying, come on, let's go together. Let's all go. And even if the Test 11 plays, it's one day in the field and one day of having a hit. There might be four innings in those two days. What's the downside? What is the downside of playing a game of cricket to prepare to play cricket? I can't understand. I don't think there's any downside. Even if you get not so many runs, you're still playing cricket, you're still seeing a pink ball, you're still out in the field seeing it.

53:21And by the way, catching a pink ball, I'm not the man to talk about catching quietly, but being out in the field and this pink ball will come at you, you'd rather see it in a game that doesn't really matter before you see it in a game that does matter. And also that fact you said about there's four of them who haven't played any pink ball game ever. I don't think Gus Atkinson would have played a pink ball. Josh Tom wouldn't have played a pink ball. I don't think Harry Brough would have played. He may have played one in New Zealand, one in New Zealand. Jamie Smith, I can't imagine, has played a pink ball.

53:51When was the last county round of pink balls? I did play a county round. Years ago, wasn't it? Yeah, Middlesex, 20... I mean, they probably won't play this bit, but Bashir would. I can't imagine. One thing I will say about this sort of preparation thing, it's not, they're not just not bothering. No, the train are in the nest. You know what I mean? they've thought you know there is a method behind that they've sort of seen a process that yeah so they're sticking to that so it's not like they've just rocks up and no one's had a net or anything you know i mean i actually look at that i look at i look at what they've done with the bowlers that first day of bowling was as good as i've seen so whatever they've done with josh for woody and yeah carson atkinson but we only saw it we only saw it for 30-odd overs yeah correct so like how would they have bowled the same at 60-odd overs so that that question about the preparation I'm not quite sure that's totally answered because how they look after 90 hours in the dirt in the heat so that's the only answer Tired mate They're going to look tired They've had overs under their belt Enough overs to lay the foundation Gentlemen we're going to finish with a quiz It's called timed out okay?

54:58Either or What lasted longer?

55:04Tough as phone What lasted longer? Zach Crawley's time at the crease in both innings in Perth. Yeah. The song American Pie by Don McClain. That is brutal. Is it a walk out? Is it including the walk out or just a walk from the way to take out? What lasted longer? It's going to have to be the song. American Pie. Don McClain on this one. I'm going to say that American Pie lasted longer. I'm going American Pie. You're actually wrong, guys. Oh! You're wrong. Oh, you've done. If you go back to the first... We've been harsh on him. If you go back, there was a little bit of waiting around for Starkey in that first over.

55:46So I spent the chance. Don McLean, American Pie, 8 minutes 36 seconds. Yeah. Zach Crawley batted for 9 minutes. 9 minutes. 9 minutes. It's over. Right, here we go. Come on, what? First over. First over. These are good. 9 minutes. It's over. So you won down, lads. Which is the greatest, greater number of balls? The gap between Duckett and Root getting out on day two at Perth or the number of balls on a snooker table? Well, there's 15 balls on a snooker table. 15 reds. 15 reds. 15 reds. And six colours. Yeah. And a white. I love that and the white. So that's 22 snooker balls, isn't it? No, no, you do the master, Alistair.

56:2915 plus six. You're saying what's greater. 21. Yeah, what's greater? What's great are the number of balls, the gap between Duckett and Root getting out. Day two. 19 balls. It's more balls on the snooker table. 22. You're wrong. 22 balls on the snooker table. There was 26 balls between Ben Duckett and Root. Four for 19. Well, according to my quiz. That's wrong. Is that wrong? I thought it was Kieran. Kieran, let's say it was inquiry. I thought it was three overs, one ball. It says 26 here, so you've got two wrong. It would have been four wickets in nine balls if Usman held under Smith. Oh, it would have been, yeah.

57:13It would have been all over 76, wouldn't it? Or something, that would have been the first. Around there. Yeah, it would have been the first. Which is the shortest time in days? Days since England won't attest in Australia, or the time it would take you to walk to the moon?

57:37I mean, it's for 15 years. I'm not walking to the moon. It's January 2011. Not in these flip-flops, I'm not. It'll take you a while to get to the moon. How far is the moon? Oh, I don't know. 33 ,000 miles. Is it? Is it? So, what are you going? Just sound confident. Days since... I'll give you a clue. I'll tell you, it's been... It's been, gentlemen, it's been 5 ,436 days since England were tested. It's a long time. Still reckon it's taken longer to get to the moon. It's got to take longer. Correct. It would take us, if we set off now, 5 ,338 days to get to the moon. What a fuck! Not how you want that time.

58:25Right. Could you get there? Right? It's either a yes or a no. Yeah, right leaving after the first bullet test could you get from a stick to cricket studio in Manchester to your seat in Perth with a pint in hand to watch England back Well, we're getting into this ground is quite hard. How long we taking that is four hours and To what ended so England batted The last balls just before tea, you know at like three o 'clock. Yeah, they got out. Yeah, from 40 So you left at 10 o 'clock. So how long is that? That's 24 hours plus. Yeah, they could I think you could yeah No, no, it's a shock. No, it says no you couldn't well from Manchester you would You would arrive during the tea break So there would be a long queue at the bar

59:15Tell you what you would have seen a very good innings out from Travis here You would what is a shorter time? The time between duck it again out on day two and Steve Smith scoring the winning runs the shorter time between what? Right, but it's four. These questions are right. Can you read it? What is that? The one's in orange, the arts. Right, OK. So what's the question? Which is faster between the top round and the bottom? I get it, I get it. Right, what is the shorter time? The time between Duckett getting out on day two and Steve Smith scoring the winning runs or Gordon Ramsay's fastest marathon time.

59:59That marathon. He's a good runner. He's a good runner. He must have done a three-hour 15 marathon or something. And then how long... I mean, I've been off all these times. I was convinced I was right. There's how many balls. So, what's that? It was four hours, wasn't it? Four hours and a half from lunch to when they lost. So, Ducky got in the first over, didn't he? So, I'm going to say... He runs sub four-hour marathon. I'm going to say he's going, it was four hours, wasn't it, from being 100 ahead to the game finishing. So I think that was longer than Ramsey's marathon. Spot on. Spot on. It was four hours 30.

1:00:36I'm glad we stayed silent there. And Gordon Ramsey's fastest marathon time is three hours 30. That's quick. That's good, isn't it? What's your quickest? What's your quickest? 3.16. Oh, what the... Quicker than Gordon. Jesus. Quicker than Gordon. What's yours toughest? Never does it. Right, the last one. If you started watching the entire back catalogue of Stick to Cricket and the Ashes debate, as you left the stadium on day one, would you finish before Steve Smith hit the winning runs on day two? You'd be asleep.

1:01:09But if you just happened to stay awake. If you happen to... How many have we done? 22? Have we done 22 episodes? An hour? No questions. I think the back catalogue would win. Yeah. It would finish at exactly the same time. 23 hours and 20 minutes. No way. Stars aligned, isn't it? 23 hours and 20 minutes. I didn't even get that one right. I don't know there's a promo. Cheers, Gilly. Thanks for coming on. Cheers, guys. Well done. Well done. Great to be here. Yeah, that's it. Lovely. Time for a tequila. Let's go. Let's go. Let's have it. Bosh.

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