England's Chase Heroics, India Captaincy Debate & Pant's Roly-Poly Ramp! | Stick to Cricket EP 1

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2:06Michael Vaughan: Morning, morning.

2:08Phil Tufnell: Morning, morning. Morning, morning. Anyway, well, I've told her to get her It's getting straggly. And in this heat, you get your schnauzers trimmed up proper. Schnauzers?

2:21Michael Vaughan: Schnauzers? What are you on about? Your dog?

2:24Phil Tufnell: Yeah, schnauzers.

2:25Michael Vaughan: Right.

2:26Phil Tufnell: Oh, dear.

2:27Michael Vaughan: Is that what your dog is?

2:28Phil Tufnell: No, they're fox terriers. This is another dog.

2:33Michael Vaughan: Give us a croissant. Mike's got a nice couple of dogs. We've stayed at his last night. He said, my dog looked like a toy. Well, it does. I don't know it's about that big, but it's fully grown. What sort is it? Chihuahua? It's a Maltese. Falcon. Maltese. No, I've got a Shih Tzu. Oh. That's Betty. Yeah. Lila is a Maltese falcon. Yeah. It's not a falcon. It's a Maltese. Yeah, it's like a little... It just does that all day, doesn't it? You'll have Labrador's, won't you? No, Collies. But I've also got Betty. We've got Betty as well. A little dash sound. We've got a miniature dash sound. No? I bet he's a Shih Tzu.

3:12Michael Vaughan: My bet is a Dachau. All right. You could hang it from your rear-view mirror. Honestly, it's like a little air freshener. What about him this morning? Go to the garage. Turns out all of a sudden this fella's running after him. You haven't paid! You're doing the runner! Nearly got tussled to the ground. I did, I did try him. He then asked for a selfie, didn't he? Yeah, he did. I put me clicker on there, you know, me card. Did it too quick? Yeah, something like that. Well, I've run out of clothes. Who would have thought five days? Got you, got you. Hey, five days, I've run out of clothes. I'm having to recycle, that's why I've got me...

3:57Michael Vaughan: Have you got new pants on? No, inside out. What was going on on TMS about jackets? Oh, Aga's had a jacket on. Well, number one, it was too big. Jonathan Agnew's jacket. It was massive, wasn't it? Isn't it your tailor? We've got to be a little bit... No, it's not too big. It's fitted in beautifully. Your man, is it? Yes, he did this one for me. Yours fits. Yours is all right. Dog tooth. No-one had heard of a dog... Everyone knows what a dog tooth is, don't they? A houndstooth check, dog tooth check. No-one knew what it was. It looked very smart. I liked it.

4:31Phil Tufnell: Very smart. It's just the wrong size. I enjoyed commentary. I was stuck on the motorway for four and a half hours on the M62, so I was listening all the way. It was good commentary. I think you were on with Alison Mitchell. Right. And you morphed into the Fast Show. She's asked you a question about how good you think this is, and you've gone, ooh! And I thought, it's the two gentlemen tailors. Ooh, suits you, sir. Suits you, sir. Does she, sir? Does she?

5:05Michael Vaughan: Does she have it? Oh, thank you. Does she? Lovely. Oh, suits you, sir. Lovely coffee. Now, we went across the moors. Yeah. And we had to go, we got the message on the WhatsApp. Oh, we fought it on the moors. Accident on the M62. I've got the cat staying at mine. I went, oh, this is a trouble. We might have to go. So we went south, Barnsley, over Woodhead. Well, he's never seen the moors, has he? Scary. He said, oh, he was, I like it. He said, we're not going to run out of fuel, are we? He was scared.

5:33Phil Tufnell: That shuts as well in winter, that shuts. They just snore, snore everywhere. You can't, you're shut, would I pass? Shut.

5:39Michael Vaughan: You just see it, don't you? What about the dam, Dan? Down towards Glossop? Yeah. It's dry, nothing. Yeah. Nothing in the dam. Like it. And we saw this house in the middle of the moors, and I thought, watch. Ooh, look, ooh, look there. Ooh. Didn't have a road to it, or did it? No. Just like a big sort of... It didn't have a road to it. Never knew. Because it did. Just, there's no shock. That's the best house on the M6. Where did you go and get your bottle of wine from?

6:03Phil Tufnell: Have we any sugar? But...

6:06Michael Vaughan: Oh, it's here. Yeah, it was right there. There's that house on the M62, isn't there? The guy that... I've been there. I've been there. What do you mean you've done it? No, I've been there. I've met him. Well, the white house, and he wouldn't sell, would he? And the two motorways park. Yeah, yeah. He's a cheap farmer. Yeah. Us farmers. Don't tell me, do you know him as well? No, but I've driven past it. It must be the loudest house in the country. I went to interview him for the one show, and I've gone there, you know, all mics up and everything, sat down, and it's like... Oh! The windows were rattling.

6:38Michael Vaughan: Hey, I tell you what, Dave, you were there at Hedinley for a couple of days. Oh, I loved it. I'm telling you now, and I don't know what you two think, but let's talk about the... Hedinley always gets a bad rap about the food. Well, we didn't have the Hedinley food, did we? I'm just saying the food was... Where did you eat the food? At Hedinley. So it's Hedinley food and it's made at Hedinley. Yes, but... Where do you think it's made? In the trucks. Which is at Hedinley? Well, it's at Hedinley. Yeah. I think Hedinley weren't responsible for it. No, that's right. They must have been outside companies.

7:05Michael Vaughan: No, the outside company we used to have, they used to have two drop-offs, didn't they? The first one was the prison. And then the second one, they came and dropped our drop-off at Edney. So we decided to change. Yeah, but come on, give it a bit of credit. Oh, brilliant. That food was sweet. That was excellent. You get it in a nice silver box.

7:23Phil Tufnell: It was fantastic five days at the whole shebang. It was wonderful, five days. Full house, four days.

7:30Michael Vaughan: Do you remember back in the... Oh, you'd have played there as well. Maybe not you, Cookie. Remember Jim Bowen? He used to do the bins out of the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Run quick. And they'd hammer him, weren't they, the Terres? Yeah. This week, there was that... He's a darts man, Michael Van Gerwen. There must have been a look-alike on the Terres. All week, they were singing his name. Michael Van Gerwen. We need to get him on. There's any darts that like cricket? I tell you I went up there with him and did a show with him Wayne Mardell doesn't mind cricket alright he's a good he's commentator he was world number one was he 501 wasn't he yeah and he had the Hawaiian shirt and everything and I've seen him spit a dart into double eight shut up from how far from the hockey give over that's his party trick that's his party trick like that He was all warming up like that.

8:28Michael Vaughan: And he's got the dart and he's gone double eight. He's gone boom. Shut up. It's called it. It's called it. No, we're not having that. We'll get him on, do that. Spit a dart in it. He needs to go on Britain's Got Talent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would be a talent, wouldn't it?

8:42Phil Tufnell: Well, I mean, Britain's Got Talent is a rip-off of Opportunity Knox. Huey Green. Huey Green. I've got to tell you, friends, and I mean this most sincerely, folks. A bloke won it. A bloke won it. It's Huey Green. A bloke won it for 12 weeks running, 12 weeks running, and the public are voting. He never said a word or sang a word, and he won it for 12 weeks. What did he do? Well, there you go, the musical muscle man. Da, da, da. Oh, yeah. He's come on in his vest and underpants, and he's moved his muscles about to music, and the public vote for him for 12 weeks.

9:23Phil Tufnell: I keep hearing and reading that Test Cricket is dead. Why are the grounds full? Like tossing a pancake.

9:33Michael Vaughan: I think Ben and Baz, they're going to go down as game changers for the whole of Test Cricket.

9:38Phil Tufnell: Captaincy's going to be a big player in this series. We've got a very assured captain. India's captain got confused.

9:48After 20 minutes, I just said, they're going to absolutely cruise this.

9:53Michael Vaughan: Go back over the last two or three years. We'll get to 50. If them two's having one, we'll all have one.

9:59Phil Tufnell: I like Kylie as a kid. I still like her. I don't know when I'm stuck in fulsome prison And life is dragging off

10:14Michael Vaughan: Right, let's get to it. Let's get to the serious stuff, if we can. Headingley Test Match, who wants to start? What are five days? Go on, Dave, you start us. Well, I would have two days working and then stayed at home.

10:29Phil Tufnell: And I absolutely love seeing Headingley full. The sun shone on Headingley and it's full for four days. So you and I will know that that is fantastic for the club. Yeah. Fabulous for the club. I thought the pitch was perfect. Belter. Absolute belter. If you bent your back, you get it through with good pace. You can score hundreds. It was great entertainment. The outfield was like lightning. Just get it past any infielder and you get your just rewards and your fours. I thought it was a perfect test match. What a chase. Never in doubt. We will talk. I mean, we will talk, particularly you two. Captaincy's going to be a big player in this series.

11:13Phil Tufnell: We've got a very assured captain. And India's captain got confused. But it was his first go, wasn't it? Yeah, he got confused. Absolutely. I mean, first on that pitch, I want to know how they kept the pace in it. Because I think every time we've watched, well, not every time, but most times we watch Test cricket now and it goes five days, the pitch just dies, doesn't it? It goes low, no nicks carrying. That pitch was still flying through. and how much better is when nicks carry. Rahul caught that one in the fifth day. I just thought the groundsman got absolutely spoiled. Which allowed.

11:46Michael Vaughan: He was on the academy with me. Did he? Which allowed great cricket. Like brilliant cricket all day. It did spin. I just, India on the last day, you're right. I mean, you shouldn't be able to chase 370. 370? On a wicket. And it wasn't like, you know, they chased 370 last time against India on a flat one. The sun was out. but this like I thought after 20 minutes I was like I don't know if I turn to you Skipper or someone else I just said they're gonna absolutely cruise this and I could not believe Ben if you'd have said they put 180 right you'd have thought it had been crash bang wallet you know and just got off them and it'd been absolute chaos and then and you just thought India had no answer but it wasn't it was like old-school test match batting just to four arms and over it's like I've never seen those two actually the whole England batting line-up play with that control, that much authority.

12:33Crawley was superb, actually. Lined up Boomerah as well as anyone. I've seen him line up Boomerah really well.

12:38Michael Vaughan: So, I mean, it was just inevitable. The summit about this team, you mentioned the captain, he's special. Yeah. He really is. I mean, I always judge a cricket team. And when you think he's won the toss and bowled, and India are 430 for three. And let's all be honest, when you were coach or playing, captain or player, player, whatever you've done since, Me and Zach are the same. Usually you look at a team when they're 430 for three and you walk through the gates and you don't look at the scoreboard and you look out on the field and you go, oh, yeah, they're having a tough day. The body language drops.

13:13Michael Vaughan: This team never, they never, ever drop their body language. And that has, I mean, we talk about McCullum as the leader, but that comes from Stokes. And actually the bit which for me and the sides I've played in, and rightly or wrongly, if they were 430 for three and I was a skipper and put them in, they'd be the look at me and go, you've made the wrong decision. Which two bowlers would be doing that? Well, you could probably think, I won't name them, but they've got 11 under wickets. 12 under wickets between them. And quite rightly in one way, because you're thinking, I shouldn't be bowling now and we're getting panned.

13:47And I get it, but the effect Stokes has on that team, they might have thought it.

13:52Michael Vaughan: There's things that he does, you know, that he's bloody smart. They might have thought it, but there's not one show of it. Not one show in that field. And when they came back this day two, you can just imagine how tired they would have been. And I was watching them and they were brilliant in the field. And again, they might have thought, Jesus, we shouldn't have done that. But then the confidence to say, right, Stokes might have got it wrong, but I'm still going to back it 100%, give it my all. And the confidence that side to go and think, we've still got a chance of winning this game. He does things that, you know, you go back to the first innings when they were bowling and they're behind it and then he gets the ball and he gets a few.

14:26Michael Vaughan: And then he should really have carried on bowling until he get himself a five-four. He throws the ball to Josh Tong and Josh Tong gets a four-fury, hoovers up the tail. Yeah, who didn't actually have a great first day, did he? He's got that touch of knowing how to manage people. He empowers other people. Sometimes I think to his own detriment, because there were a couple of times I was going, Skip, you should be bowling, you should be bowling, but he gives that sort of empowerment. Is that right? He ball quick. Yeah, he did. He was head and shoulders again, the best bowler. On that first innings.

14:57Michael Vaughan: Yeah, the first innings. I mean, Toggy bustled in and bowled nicely.

15:00Phil Tufnell: Well, I didn't see him playing about with his knee, as we have done previously, and how to manage his knee and the operations that he's had. He raced in. He's a top captain. He looks fit. Does he?

15:10Michael Vaughan: I mean, I've seen some of his Instagram stories of his training. Yeah. But he looks like he's... It's like this year has arrived and it's like, right, all right.

15:20Phil Tufnell: So the intrigue is with Shubman Gill, who's a very inexperienced skipper. How's he going to come back from that? Because he's got... He's got... Jadais is 36. Yeah. Nair is 33. So he's got experience in his team. And it's great having a young team as he's got, but he's tactically, he's reactive rather than proactive in the stuff that he's doing. When you take over a team... Yeah. Like, there's always going to be this, like, the first bit where the team has to get used to the new leader. Unless, even like Stokes, when he first came in, it still takes a while to get used to him. Like, he came in very clearly, Stokes, obviously, and said, this is how we're going to play, try and smash every ball.

16:04And it was a real clear leadership path. I think the real indication where that side's not settled with leadership is DRF. For them, like, because... 6-0. And also the... But they got everyone wrong. They got everyone wrong. But also the panic of it. And it's horrible because you're not used to it. And no one's used to him. So everyone's really, they want to help him. It's not like they're trying to be horrible to him. They're just trying to help him. You see some of them, like, there's eight different voices and he's just like, I do not know what to do.

16:30Michael Vaughan: And it's been tweaked. There's been a lot of chat and a lot of language coming out of that England side. Baz ball, baz ball, crash bang, wallop. It's been tweaked. Little Ducky, Little Ducky left a couple, didn't he? First two, yeah. First two left him. And he hasn't left a ball in his life when he's played that. He's like a little mini Matthew Hayden. He played what a knock that was. He's a player. He just peeled it off. Bang, bang. Every format. I said it on air. What a player. I don't know of a better all-format player at the minute. Across, you know, there's not many. So, Giles, well, don't play T20 cricket for India.

17:07Michael Vaughan: We had a stinker in the field. Oh, he's got hands like me. It's not an easy place to catch, Henley. I tell you what, you were 50-50 catching at mid-home.

17:16Phil Tufnell: Ooh!

17:17Michael Vaughan: Yeah. Yeah, but he's in the cordon. Catches like me. That's a concern for the bowlers. Yeah, I mean, you look at Duckett and I see a player and I think... And you think back to the Basboul start, that was their best decision. They brought him straight in. You know, he came in. He's always been a decent player. He's had a little bit of an issue now and again off the field. Well, what with that then? Jimmy Anderson poured a pint over him. Yeah, well, it didn't say much because he's only down there, Ben. Not the basket. What about yesterday's medal? His medal looked massive on him, didn't it? But he, for me, is the best all-format player at the minute.

17:54Michael Vaughan: I mean, Travis Sedd's up there. Aidan Markham plays all three formats. But when you think he faces the music at the top of the order in Tess, T20 and 50 overs, he's the best. Yeah, now he played beautifully. And as you said, it just looked like the old lardy on. Read of the paper. What about those reversed? What I like to... I don't know if you saw it. So the highlight show last night, BBC. We've got Ben Duckett. and I ask him a question about the leaves. Yeah, little Ben. Ben's here. We're looking down to him. And then Phil said, look, I want to ask you about those reverse suites. So when you get your...

18:27Michael Vaughan: You change your leg for your different styles. He said, when you get your right foot forward, he puts his left foot forward. It's the complete opposite. But he's a hockey player. Oh, is he? He's a hockey player. And you look at De Villiers. Look at John T. Rhodes. They're all, you know, you play all sports, racket sports, hockey. These players now that can properly give it a whip with the right hand or left hand. You can only play hockey right hand. Actually, that shot for him is just a hockey shot. That's what he said. Without Duckett scoring that 150, would they have chased them down? I still fancied him.

19:06Michael Vaughan: Someone would have got some. To that kind of team, I mean... And you're talking about the captaincy. Jadeja was bowling into the rough. and Duckett was reverse sweep in every ball. Ben Stokes was reverse sweep in every ball. He had two on the offside and seven on the leg side. He didn't have a mid-off. Every ball he was hitting at that side. There comes a stage where he got to move a few fellas over. What about today's... Did he ball too quick? Yeah, it's too quick. You've got to have a little bit of F and G. Flight and guile. Flight and guile. Flight and guile. Yeah, in England, beautiful bowler, beautiful bowler in India.

19:41Michael Vaughan: Yeah. Drive it in. Drive it in. Burst the pitch. but in England, especially out that rough, you've got to get a little bit of up and down on it. He hasn't got the best record outside Asia. For a guy who's got 300... I'm a wonderful bowler. Well, yeah, in India, all you've got to do is, not all you've got to do, but you get rewarded. Do not leave the stumps. And you're right, they got confused. They didn't know where to stop him scoring. That's his defensive shot to spin. That's his forward defence. They're going to play... Will they play Yadav? They've got to play Yadav. Bit of mystery. The only thing I will say about that, though, is as a captain, the reverse sweep to spinners now.

20:15Nightmare. I mean, you feel like you're always one short. Andy Flower, who was probably the first person I saw doing, and I batted a bit with him in 2003, and for the opposition captain, once he gets the reverse sweep out, so you have to bring that man over. And it's on the boundary. And then he knocks it that side. That shot.

20:34Michael Vaughan: It sounds obvious, but you've got to play it well. So Duckett plays it beautifully. He just plays it with that much control. he goes in front of square behind square Ben Stokes looked like he was going to get out playing it and he did because he's a bit more upright stiff front leg he's a bit upright and he gets out but the key is if you can play it he's alive look at Rooty look at Rooty when Jadaisia here he comes demonstration he's alive when Jadaisia was doing it Masterclass yeah come on how does he play let's start right Phil Tsoff the perfect man to ask about Ben Duckey's innings at Heddenley how does he play the reverse sweep, Phil.

21:11Michael Vaughan: Well, he leads with different legs. Right, get this right. So we get, sometimes he leads with that one. I mean, you're already... What leg's that? That's your right leg. And then sometimes he leads with that one. Did he say shine? It's the right leg. Did I say right again? It's the left leg. I thought he said he's shine. That's why I was no good at Strictly Come Dancing. But A, low centre of gravity. Yes, yes. Well, bum, this is you, really, because you're a great sweeper. Yeah. Great sweeper. But I didn't sweep the other way. Right out. Well, I've got three of the best batters in the world. You've got to get into it.

21:48Michael Vaughan: Come on. Reverse sweep. Come on. So you've got to get that right out. Get low. You've got to get low. You've got to get your head low. And then you're right. It's those hockey wrists that snap like that. But you're low. Can you see him on camera? Is he under the table? You see, Ben. Phil, there's a table in the way. Oh, for fuck's sake. Where does he need to go? Eh? There. There, we can see you now, Phil. Right, OK. So he goes, different legs. That's your right one. That's your left one. That's your left-right one. And then, as you say, he's got a low centre of gravity. He gets really low. Demonstrate that.

22:25Michael Vaughan: Right, OK, so you've got to get... What one am I getting out first? Whichever one you want. I'm going to go left leg first. Left leg. So he gets there, low, head low. And you've got to pick the right length of thing. And it's those hockey wrists. Yeah. that catch up with the ball. You know, you can... There. And you're, boom, right at it. Ben... Oh, fuck Jesus. Ben. Ben gets a little bit like that. He's got that stiff front leg. And it's all sort of... So what does he need to do? Ben who? Stokes. Oh, the other one. The other Ben, yeah. He needs to get a bit lower.

23:06Phil Tufnell: Yeah, he needs to get lower.

23:07Michael Vaughan: He needs to get lower. That's excellent, Phil. Well done.

23:08Phil Tufnell: He'll be watching that. We'll stalk him. Yeah, he just gets a little bit jabby at it. Bam!

23:14Michael Vaughan: And that's how we got that one there. You said to me, though, you said you wish you played the reverse sweep. As you know, when you play. You said you were a good sweeper. You used to be a good sweeper. Well, it'd be the same. You could sweep naturally the way that we were taught. You know, you could go that way. I'd love to be out of it. How many options? So when Jadeja bowled over the wicket to Rooty, you know, you think, oh, it's tricky. but straight away just reverse swept him and then you've got to change the field you have to change the field as a captain an absolute nightmare and if you've got it and you can play it like Duckett it's like and you have to have him on the boundary as well don't you you can't just have him on the one because it's past him well if I was back in the edge of danger I'd be going offside and crabbing it into leg side well that's how I scored my run unless he got really full I'd have hit him through the offside on there like it had to be really full but because Duckett he opens up both sides so it's all well and good to say oh he should have taking another fielder over there.

24:09As soon as he would have put another fielder offside, he would knock him that way.

24:12Michael Vaughan: How often now, I mean, in India, in the subcontinent, you obviously do see short legs. You don't see a short leg in England often to the spinners now. They have that kind of fielder just behind square, don't they, on the leg side.

24:23Phil Tufnell: That's a puzzle. That's a puzzle to me. Having fielded there and sort of got a feel of when a spinner's ball, he ain't going to go there. How is he going to get it there? Well, I reckon that man there, well, not I reckon, is trying to stop the paddle sweep. So it's a bit of twitch in between. But if you just go short leg and you've got the man on the boundary there, because modern players are so comfortable sweeping and it's not the Mike Gatting reverse sweep, which has cost World Cups, that you're going to get renowned for, you just play the paddle sweep. So that kind of there, you're kind of trying to cover the base.

24:58You're not getting many more now from people going forward and getting that pad there. You might get the odd one with bounces and loops and that bloke would be able to get kind of covering both. I've got you, I've got you. That's why I think...

25:09Michael Vaughan: Well, this is the first week that I've watched England and I thought, oh, they're now adding a little bit of smartness and brains to the batting because the field always spreads for them because the opposition are scared and now they just go, Crawley's innings was a perfect example. It's the first time I've seen him. His alignment was perfect. Actually brilliant. And then he was going, one, because you're playing great. Ben Duckey, get back on strike, one. Every time Boomer came into the attack, you could just see that England had a real mindset, right, just play. There was one dance down for Harry Brook, he's got a bit of genius, and he danced down, whacked him through cover point.

25:42Michael Vaughan: But it was, right, the six overs that they had to face on the fourth evening, go back over the last two or three years, we'll get to 50. Or that's how I play. Yeah, that's the way we're going to play. Well, no, they've definitely added a little bit of this. Two examples, I reckon, of that as well. Stokesy to Boombra after T. knowing that he's got one spell. The only one they're going to lose that game is losing two wickets there and what he has to face in. So he didn't play a shot, did he? Four overs and Brumma's gone. And Stokes' captaincy in the field was all he's talked about really is I don't care about the runs.

26:19It's 20 wickets. And we go back to a little bit of Oli Pope's captaincy last year, Sri Lanka. Do you remember? He had such attack in fields and I didn't care about the runs. They didn't have a fine leg. No, they didn't have a fine leg. And then suddenly they needed runs. and runs are really important. Stokesy, in this game, he had four men on the boundary for quite a period of time. And he was quite happy to just let him have ones.

26:40Michael Vaughan: They're learning. Absolutely, they're learning. And this top seven, Olly Pope, full credit. He's done the job.

26:46Phil Tufnell: He wasn't frenetic at all.

26:48Michael Vaughan: He played calmly. He was measured. Didn't we say it last week? Who said? Didn't we talk about Olly Pope last week? Yeah. I think I said it. Bethel. No, but you said Bethel, didn't you? No, I said Bethel. Oh, he said Bethel.

27:00Phil Tufnell: I said Bethel. He said Bethel. like I said, Paul, that you're going to stay with him. Yeah, he did. But you wouldn't have stayed with him? Yeah, I would. No, I wouldn't. I like the consistency. I'm just checking what we got right in. It was him. He said Beffert.

27:14Michael Vaughan: I did. And he's played great, so I love it. I did well. I love it when someone goes out and has a bit of, we call it ticker. Yeah. Shows a bit of ticker, but the only way he got 100 by playing calmly. And he lined up bummering the first things better than any other right-hander.

27:28Phil Tufnell: I've never really seen him thinking, what's all the fuss about him but I thought he played really well.

27:34Michael Vaughan: That's why I'm saying now the top seven unless we have injuries he's kind of locked in it's locked in isn't it? That seven now should be the seven that walks out on November was it 20th or 22nd in Perth that looks to me 100 % without any question it looks like a top seven and I look at the last time England won in Australia 10 and 11 that top seven that England arrived in in 10 and 11 was rock solid Full of experience. Yourself, Strauss, Cook, Peterson. Myself, Strauss, Cook. Yeah, yeah, yourself. So you've got, who was it for? Peterson, you had Belly at five, Belly at six, Pryor at seven. He's got a similar kind of feel that they're going to arrive in Aussie, I hope, with a lot of experience in that batting.

28:21I mean, I love the Olly Pope 100 for the fact that under pressure again, the big pressure from the outside. and I always look back at my career and think when batsmen who have long careers have moments in their career where they deliver 100 when people are criticising their place and thinking they're like, Forney, 2007, Collie did it, Strauss did it, Belly did it. Actually, you all have to do it at a certain time. But then, I don't want to flick it to negative to Ollie Pope, but start on day two, or day three, sorry, out early. Do you know what I mean? He is going to get out early in his career.

28:53That's just his nature. I know everyone does, but He still got to be aware of it. I think he did a brilliant interview, didn't he, on TMS? He came up and said, yeah, I know that my first 20 balls are my real danger zone. And actually the confidence is going to speak about that. So I'm trying to be better, I'm trying to do this and that. And I thought when you can accept a fault, you can then move on and over.

29:15Michael Vaughan: He scored 196 in the first test in India. Oh, it's amazing. And then fell away. His challenge now is to be consistent throughout the whole summer, which he's got the perfect start. Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair.

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31:30Michael Vaughan: Can we go on to India? I'm going to talk about one player. Pant. Rishabh Pant. Rishabh Pant. What a player. Yeah. Back to back hundreds. Good story.

31:42Phil Tufnell: I mean, from his car crash, which is a near fatal car crash at what, three o 'clock, four o 'clock in the morning. Yeah. Yeah, nearly cleaned up. Yeah, got dragged out. Yeah, and then to come back the way that he has done. He's just an entertainer, isn't he?

31:58Michael Vaughan: Just an entertainer. Can I just say one stat? What was the stat? We're talking about that England side. First team who has had 500 scored against them. Is that right? And won. And won. Yeah. There you go. Or is that the first team to have scored 500 and lost? Phil, that's correct. That's good knowledge. Fascinating, that is. Yeah. Pretty fascinating.

32:24Phil Tufnell: I think you should have said 500. You get 500 peeled off again.

32:28Michael Vaughan: Don't worry about that. We'll get more than that. But is that not a better worry for India, though? You say, we scored 500 and still lost. Well, there you go. Now we're talking about India. There's the reverse thing. Rishabh Pan. He's going to be... Adam Gilchrist, for me, is the best. Wicketkeeper batter. Oh, Rishabh. He just set a new trend. This Rishabh Pan. I mean, MS Dhoni across white ball cricket, fantastic. Rishabh Pan, you would think, with the way that he plays, would be completely suited to the white ball game and not so much the test game. His test record is miles better than his white ball record.

33:03Do you reckon because he just tries to hit every ball, four and six in white ball?

33:05Michael Vaughan: I think, I mean, there's a lot of science in that madness. The way that he plays, I mean, the one thing I will say, Second ball now, two and two, he's down to down and whacked one down the ground. Good old Zoltz. On a number of occasions. Good old Zoltz had a look at that, the TMS stat. You'd have to try something different, wouldn't you, second ball? He strikes at 80 on his second ball. Does he? Across his whole crit. And he's invented the new shot, hasn't he? Well, come on, get your back in. Yeah, I'd love to see you try the roly-poly. The roly-poly ramp. Rishabh Pant, the roly-poly. Let's just see how he plays it.

33:43Michael Vaughan: Phil, over to you. OK, the masterclass. This has got legs.

33:46Phil Tufnell: I love Phil Tauf, no masterclass. And I love he has to do it the wrong way round as well. I know. He looks good left hand. Yeah, come on. Over to you.

33:54Michael Vaughan: My father always said I should have got left hand. Yeah. Come on, Phil, how does he play that stroke? Well, it must be premeditated for a start. No? Of course it is. Yeah. Must be premeditated. Then he sort of like, he gets himself. There again, short fella. Little fella. Yeah, little fella. Sorry, can we just go back to you thinking it wasn't premeditated? Well, I know, it must have been. I was doubting myself there. Right, OK. And then he gets himself across, gets himself, gets his weight on that back leg and then collapses that back leg. And then he's going down, going down, going down. And then over there, like a frying, like tossing a pancake.

34:46Michael Vaughan: And then up.

34:47Phil Tufnell: And then up. He's got to build his arse. He's got to build his arse. Oh, my gosh. And then up. Do you think if we sped that up and played it, like, times five, it would actually be about right? It's good, though.

35:00Michael Vaughan: I'm with it. You've got to have some eye there. Yeah, yeah. You know, and it's that bottom hand. As you say, it's almost like doing a stir-fry. Can we see that again? What about when he defends, though? He defends the ball. That's what makes him stay in. Defends the ball. That's how he got LB, because that one from Tungy... Well, he left it. All he does is that. Lovely. French cricket. That's French cricket, isn't it?

35:31Phil Tufnell: Good stop.

35:31Michael Vaughan: He's got a good stop. New boys all had a good stop. Well, you've got to have it to stay in. Yeah, there you go. I'm just loving the fact he's doing all our batting masterclass. And I'm sat here. Brilliant. Yeah. I'll ask you, Skipper. The bloke on his shoulder, his shoulder talking to him. Who, Rishabh? Like, how he can even handle that? Because he has to bat by numbers. Yeah. He has to bat by numbers. I'm not saying numbers as in, like, the second ball. Well, we've worked out he goes second ball. We can't say the sixth ball and whack in it, the twelfth ball. but when he was playing with Bashir, you could tell, couldn't you?

36:07As Bashir's running up, he's going to block this ball. And he's like, no intent. And then suddenly, we're looking, he's going to play a massive shot here. And he does. I'm like, the bloke on his shoulder just talking to him, what are you going to do here, mate? What are you going to do here, mate? That was horrible, actually.

36:19Michael Vaughan: I like the way he talks to the keeper. He talks to everyone. Is he? He talks to everyone, yeah. He's lively. Perhaps keep him quiet. When he came up to us in the beginning of day one, he was so happy. He said, what would you do here, mate? and I actually, I said, you've got to bat first. I said, you've got to bat first. He goes, yeah, but what about 20 minutes? Like 20 minutes, so you could get three wickets. I said, well, you're over it, you're only about two overs anyway. He's like, what about the other eight or ten hours of batting? And he's like, oh, yeah, but they still... But he's just, I know whether the accents had a big impact on him, I don't know, but I just love, like Duckie, when he, Duckie at the six, when Duckie at that six, he was laughing, good shot, buddy.

37:00Michael Vaughan: He gave him a little punch on the back. Even when he's batting, you can see Ben Stokes is admiring.

37:06Phil Tufnell: What was the dialogue between Stokes and Pant? It was fun, I think. Yeah, all fun. Good fun. Yeah, good fun. I don't want to keep saying I spoke to Stokes, but I was talking a little bit and he was like, it's just a battle of who's going to get bored first, me or Pant. That's all he could think about when he was captain. Setting feels like who's going to get bored first, who's going to get bored first.

37:27Michael Vaughan: Brilliant. Yeah, there's a few players who I've bowled at, bowling spell. It's not a very nice place to be when you sort of bowl one and he sort of blocks it and then sort of looks up at you like that. He goes, he could have actually hit that for six, actually. It's just, when is he going to win? When is he going to choose to win? And also, that smile doesn't mean he doesn't, like, he's not the most competitive. You know, his attitude, you know, like, you don't score 200s and be that, and not be really wanting to score. He could have tossed it off second. He's going to have scored 100 first innings and that, He's got some...

38:02Michael Vaughan: Only second player. Only second wicketkeeper to score... Wicketkeeper. To score back-to-back hundreds. First one. You should know this one. This is... Been mentioned. Scored what? Who's the only wicketkeeper who scored 200? 200 in a game. Alex Stewart. No, go on, I'll give you a clue. Hello, weed. for Lob-a-Lob. Hello, weed. Well, I think it's his era. Little weed. Little weed.

38:40Michael Vaughan: That's not the wooden tops. What was it called? The something pop men? Flower pop. Handy flower.

38:48Phil Tufnell: Handy flower. Handy flower.

38:50Michael Vaughan: Handy flower. What a player he was. Howdy, too. Yeah. India, do you think that was... I look at them and I look at that attack. Bumrah's only going to play three. He's got two left. It's been announced. Gautengambia says, no, we won't change that. He's playing three. Do you think they've gone? I can't see 20 wickets. They didn't get 20 wickets with Bumrah. No.

39:14Phil Tufnell: Hang on, if they play... You said 4-0, didn't you?

39:17Michael Vaughan: 4-0. Oh. Well, I think Yadav has... You're looking, in my opinion, more likely than our three ones. I might change that to five. 5-0. No, I'll stay with four. It might rain. you never get Manchester. To come back from what just, because actually they played some really good cricket in that game. They couldn't kikes. I mean, the no ball from Boomerat has cost them massive. Yeah, we shouldn't have really won that test. We shouldn't have won that test. But when you get there as a... Yeah, they were 4-34-3 and lost a game of cricket and five... Five wickets. And also, did you say 500s? So, you know, so the top order of scored runs, a lot of runs, no runs on the tail so if you're an England side thinking they're not going to keep scoring hundreds you can't get on that much run so I just they have to start this next game well they have to they have to get ahead of game so India they'll bring in the leg spinner yes they have to for who I think it's Thakur yes Thakur yeah he looks tired they're going to have to play Reddy aren't they because Reddy can bat and bowl a little bit can he bowl a little bit somewhere yeah he bowls he's not quite as good as Shadol Thakur's bowling you know He's not that quality yet, but he can bat.

40:27Michael Vaughan: I saw him get a great 100 in Australia. If I was them, I'd want two spinners. I know it's your day, it's your struggle, but if he's got... No, he's a good cricketer. Yeah, I keep him in. He fields, he bats, he's got that spirit. Would you take out their number three? I couldn't pronounce the sign. I can't pronounce the sign. I couldn't pronounce the surname. Maybe they have to change their formation. Go up Nair at three. Nair at three or Nair, however you say it. Something like Krishna at Edgbaston. You know, you need bowlers at Edgbaston that kind of... Krishna did... He got a little bit... Edgbaston won't be a hit-the-pitch kind of day.

41:03But I think you go Nair at three, then you can play Reddy instead of Sackle and then you can still have your three other... Might not be... You can still have...

41:11Michael Vaughan: You can still have the... Right, so that's India. One thing, though, I'd like to play poker against this Indian side because they've already declared that Bumbra's... I agree. Why are they announcing their best bowler is only going to play three and they back it up last night? Why would you just say, we'll wait and see? Unless it's one of the greatest bluffs ever. And he's got... They've gone away every game.

41:37Phil Tufnell: We've changed our minds. What's wrong with that? He's OK.

41:40Michael Vaughan: He's well firing. That's why we're never good at poker.

41:43Phil Tufnell: There's no game now. India don't have a game before Edgbaston. And the captain last night, in his interview, just said, oh, we're going to have some nets. Right. But you'd rather Boomer play at Lords than Edgebaston, wouldn't you? Yeah. Because if he does... He'll definitely play at Lords. Yeah. He could. Edgebaston. All the talk with Archer as well playing, he hasn't played Red Bull this tour. Where are you with that? I'm going to stay with this squad now and then maybe, you know, look with it, back-to-back test matches next to Edgebaston and then Lords. So then you have an opportunity to rest one of the quick ballers for the third set.

42:21Michael Vaughan: I'll tell you what the rush is. There's no rush. He hasn't played for four years. He's played one game in Durham. He's played a few decent spells. Just give him one more four-day game. Have they got another one? Have they got one on Sunday? There is another round of matches.

42:36Phil Tufnell: I've got to Chesterfield. We can, yeah.

42:39Michael Vaughan: Chesterfield. Chesterfield.

42:42Phil Tufnell: Derbyshire V. Lanks a couple of days down there. Yeah, nice. Jimmy Anderson's done well as Skipper, hasn't he? Yeah, they've got 650 But it's as flat as at Blackpool. Good venue, Blackpool. Yeah, well, we used to finish... I played there last year. Yeah, we used to finish playing and then go right down the Pleasure Beach on the Wild Mouse and the Big Dipper. I loved Blackpool, loved it.

43:03Michael Vaughan: I did the rumba at Blackpool. The Dance of Love. Oh, it was horrific.

43:08Phil Tufnell: Oh, for... That's what everyone said about Strickland, wasn't it?

43:11Michael Vaughan: Give me a tango at Blackpool, don't give me the dance of love. Were you the sack? It was all a bit sack.

43:16Phil Tufnell: See, you were both. I mean, that bloke said you've got a hanging basket on your arm. Yeah, he did. Len. Len. The arse is hanging out like an hanging basket. That was my jive. He sounds like Len on commentary. Yeah, he does. He sounds like Len Goodman. Do I? Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah. Was that a good or a bad thing? Good. Oh, is it? Oh, very good.

43:33Michael Vaughan: Thank you, Skip.

43:33Phil Tufnell: Thank you.

43:34Michael Vaughan: What was your best dance? Tango. Tango. What was that one that you did on tour when we stuck a bog roll on the back of your arse? Give us a tango. Yeah, tango. Give us a tango. He's good at this. sort of aggressive because you're meant to be a gaucho or something coming down from the savannah you know you sort of you've got to you sort of grab hold of them a little bit like that like that and then i think the best bit was sort of

44:08Michael Vaughan: that's the dance that you had the bog roll isn't it that was the one on tour Yeah. Do you remember what the music was? Should have warmed up. Do you remember what the music was to that? Yes, lovely. Lonnie Dodding. No, the girl, you know. Gloria Estefan. No, the poor lady who died very young. Amy Winehouse. Oh, yeah. Back to Black. Was it? Yeah. How does that go? I can't remember. It does help if you know the beat. Yeah, good song, Back to Black.

44:42Phil Tufnell: Back to Black.

44:47Michael Vaughan: Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair. Right, lads, heated exchange. The question this week is, test cricket is better now than it ever has been. Discuss. I think with just one word, yes.

45:08Phil Tufnell: without a doubt it's box office no I'm glad you said that like generally because obviously we all look back in our own ear and love playing in our own ear but watching I'm glad of course there's great players back in the day great players great in any generation but the fact that scoring rates are up like and it makes such a big difference doesn't it you don't get many draws now where you know going back you know when I played a draw was a result and you get a day's play at 220 runs all day. Yeah. Did it? So, 1981, what is the game in 1980? Headingley. Headingley, Botham's Ashes. How many people were at that ground?

45:54Phil Tufnell: Well, we actually... For five days. Was it, yeah? Across the whole five days. For all five days. 20 ,000. How many? 25 ,000. 50. Oh, right. So, like, 10 ,000 a day. Yeah. Right. But how much could Headingley hold? At that time, it's 18 ,000 now, but it'd be over 20 ,000 at that time. I'll add more. Yeah, definitely. And so the game now, in my opinion, has never been as vibrant. It's got issues. It's got issues with the franchise, like a runaway train, and is it regulated properly? But I keep hearing and reading that Test cricket is dead. Why are the grounds full in the UK? They're full.

46:36Michael Vaughan: I will say, though, we're all ex-England players and we can wax lyrical about this England side because of the way that they've played. Absolutely. I think Ben and Baz will go down, even if they don't win an Ashes series. Game changers. They're going to go down as game changers for the whole of Test cricket. Absolutely. Because they've definitely led the way. All right, the Aussie team back in the 90s, early 2000, they played expansively. We had a little pop at it in 204-5, only for a brief period. This team has completely changed the way that Test cricket has been played. I tell you what they've done.

47:07Mindset, everything. I think what they've done... Ability. Is obviously, like, they probably went too far for a little bit, like one way. But what they've done is, in my opinion, is they've said, do you know what, it is possible to score 200 in a session. And it's kind of socially acceptable to score 200 in a session when it's possible. And I think that's the difference now, this side. Like, I think two and a half years ago, they would have tried to score 200 every session. but if they get that balance right there'll be times there and I love an Aussie when you ask them about this they say well what about that side what about our side that's bats but actually it wasn't they were just dominating players they didn't try they didn't try and just when the opportunity was absolutely spot on to score eight runs and over do you know what I mean

47:49Michael Vaughan: and I think this England side I tell you what I've had a few messages overnight from Australia they know they know that this England side and I'm not saying that they're going to arrive as favourites but I think this Australian public and supporters over there, they're watching this England side going, this could be the team that come and challenge Australia. If I were in Australia, I'd make spinning pitches.

48:11Phil Tufnell: That's what I'd do. Pitches that spin. I think they've got to play on pitches for two a little bit. But just talking about changing Test match cricket a little bit and Baz and Stokesy, India were just so aware of what this England side could do in the fourth innings. They batted, and I don't mean this disrespectfully, they batted scared in that thing, thinking we have, they think, oh my God, they're going to chase this down. They're going to chase this down. We have to get this. And I thought the second new ball, they got themselves in a really good position. Panton and Rahul played beautifully, brilliant.

48:44But you could tell that second new ball, if they had to come out after tea and go, right, we're going to give them 10 overs or eight overs at the end, but we're going to get, they talked about 4.30. But you have to go and get it, don't you? But if Stokesh was captain in there, or that England side, They would have got 4.30 by taking the game on. I think that was... The fear that they've done that now. And it shows at the toss.

49:07Michael Vaughan: We'll have a chase. We'll have a chase. We'll have a chase. We never used to have a chase in Test cricket. Well, I think it helps with pitches now that they do seem to stay together. Back in our time, the pitches did deteriorate. There wasn't even bounce and there was more footholds. I've got one thing to add about Test cricket. So why is it... On the last day, right? Last day we arrived, day five, and you have to bowl the 90 overs. It's in the rules. 90 overs, you complete the 90 overs. There's no talk of, wait a minute, we've got to get off air for television at half six. We could have played last night till half eight.

49:44Michael Vaughan: Why don't they say every day? There's 90 overs scheduled for every day. If the weather's good, why are we going off when there's 10 overs light? We're 40... So you just play 90 overs. so you play your 90 overs. I don't want to play till half eight. Well, you know what would happen? You wouldn't, because guess what happens on the last day? The umpires do quicken the process up. Oh. You know, they run around a bit quicker because they know they've got to bowl the 90 overs. If they knew they had to bowl the 90 overs... But didn't the last hour start at half six? Yeah, because we had rain. Oh, yes.

50:15Michael Vaughan: We had a bit of rain.

50:16Phil Tufnell: I mean, I'm with you all the way. I did it in my column. What really pisses me off is that there's a drinks break. That's fine. They're only out there two hours. There's a drinks break. The number of times both teams batters down to us. Take the gloves off, put the bat down, take their helmet off, bring me a drink. If I were the captain at the field inside, I would say, we'll all have a drink, thank you, and make a right force of it. Or you go back to the laws of the game. When the bowler is at the end of his run, the batter has to be ready to receive. Add a rider to that. If he isn't, just bowl.

50:55Phil Tufnell: Just bowl. It's there, I'm telling you. Is it? No, no. Paragraph four. It doesn't say just bowl. The batter has to be ready to receive when the bowler is at the end of his run. The rider to me is, if he isn't, just bowl. He'll be there. He wouldn't be to bring me a drink, bring me a towel, bring me a new bat, bring me some gloves, bring me a tablet, bring me the Daily Mirror or whatever. You probably should have said Daily Mail then. Daily Mail. Daily Star. Well, racing pause.

51:28Michael Vaughan: Isn't it the last day they do it to stop time-wasting?

51:33Phil Tufnell: Well, the time-wasting in four days, the time-wasting.

51:36Michael Vaughan: Well, so time-wasting only comes in on the last day. So do we agree that they should just bowl the 90 over? Absolutely. I do agree. And also, this is going to sound really sad, but I am pretty sad. You do anyway. You do, actually. You do. You always disappear. I got off one day. You got off a good day. You weren't happy about that. The drinks breaks are actually five minutes. So that's 15 minutes extra already. Five minutes is that what they take? Are you sure it's five, not three minutes? No, no, it should be three minutes. Yes. But I got my phone out because I said this. Oh, I've done it. And it was five, literally ten seconds.

52:11You had the Starwatch going. I did. I was so sad. But I was like, we never, like, that's, that is 15 minutes a play. And I asked Sky because I thought there has to be five minutes for their adverts or something. You know, you sell your adverts. they have to do it for 1 minute 50 so they're back on air after 1 minute 50 so they have 3 minutes of film so I'm thinking that's 10 minutes back already

52:34Phil Tufnell: I think also going back to Sky in an hour I think they can only have 3 40 seconders the adverts are either 30 or 40 seconds and at a drinks break it'll be a little bit longer a minute and a half And then you'll just hear, if any of the England players are listening to this or watching it, they'll be like, well, were you bored at the end of the day? Actually, we weren't, were we? So that's their argument. You've got to let them have a drink, haven't you? No. No. You can have a drink at the drinks break. Well, rugby league, they run on, don't they, while they're playing.

53:11Michael Vaughan: That's it. Squirt it in the mouth. You're running through. You've got that many 12 men they could run on and just squirt in the mouth.

53:17Phil Tufnell: Yeah. That's what needs to happen. I was on ICC umpire's committee. Yeah, you're a good umpire coach. Was he? Umpire coach. I kept them moving. I kept it moving. I've had enough of him. Yeah, he did. I've had enough of him. I kept the game going when I was umpiring. But there was no medical reason, no medical reason anywhere in the world that you need other than the designated drinks breaks. No medical reason. So stop them doing it. I tell you, stop them doing it. Sue Redford you know Sue Redford yeah yeah it was a women's game and the KV she just said no no off you go alright

53:57Michael Vaughan: so that's it we've saw it so test cricket is the best it's been yes but we just want the overs bowled 90 overs and they can't drink

54:05Phil Tufnell: you can have the drinks break if I were captain I'd make a right force of it if them two's having well we'll all have one and bring a table and a couple of chairs I'll tell you what

54:15Michael Vaughan: just on the drinks break did you notice Harry Brooks batting is a drinks break and he lies on the floor and there's like a hesky comes out. Did you see it? What's a hesky? Yeah, full of drinks. A hesky? And it had yoghurts in there, bananas. It was like he was having a picnic. I was lying on the floor, laid back. Middlesex played against Essex and we were messing about a little bit like that. Ronnie Arani was the captain like that and there was Mr Whippy just by the side. He went off and got 11 ice cream with flakes and all sat down and started licking them. Yes, that's right. Mr Whippy, the ice cream, it melts too quick.

54:54Michael Vaughan: That little curly, curly stuff. You can't do it with gloves on.

54:59Phil Tufnell: My wife likes that, Mr Whippy.

55:04Phil Tufnell: She don't have that proper ice cream. How do you eat an ice cream again with your gloves on?

55:11Michael Vaughan: Sorry, I just... Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair.

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57:19Michael Vaughan: Lads, community questions. Got a few that have come in. Right, I'll start with this one. Oh, you'll like this. Why is Headingley not a test venue for the next Ashes series in 2027? Don't get me going. Don't get me going.

57:36Phil Tufnell: Go on. Go on. Get going. The traditions, the history, the games that have been played. Not only that, there isn't a test match north of Trent Bridge for the Ashes. How many of you have come up with that? They got me pissed. Come up with that. Is it right for us to say... Hadrian's Wall. Is it Hadrian's Wall? That's right. When it's stopping the Picts and the Scots from coming down, pillaging and all sorts. He can't be right, though. Henry VIII, he was the one, but where we live. Like Byland Abbey, Revo Abbey, Fountains Abbey, he'd come down because he couldn't get divorced, Henry VIII, so he started pillaging all the monks.

58:20Phil Tufnell: And they couldn't monk. They couldn't do monking, could they? And so they knocked them all down. No. They did, they knocked all these abbeys down. Started a new religion, didn't they?

58:30Michael Vaughan: Who did? Henry VIII. Did he? Yeah, here it comes. I thought it was a punchline coming up there. No. I think it's the truth. Well, go on then. I think Protestant. Did he? I think so, yeah. All right, we'll go with it. Yeah. Yeah, he did. He started a new religion. So he could get divorced. I'm starting to speak. I've been up in Edinburgh too. I've been up in Edinburgh too. I've been up in Yorkshire on. This is off the One Show, isn't it? Is that a One Show? One Show. He has all these pieces of information in his head from his days on the One Show. Yeah. Are you sure that's true? Listen, facts. Don't go with it.

59:03Michael Vaughan: Fact. Perfect. Who were you on the One Show with? Well, I just, on my own, really.

59:09Phil Tufnell: You were out and about. Yes, I was a roving reporter. Roving reporter.

59:12Michael Vaughan: Yeah, did a bit of art with it. I was an art critic on the one show with Sister Wendy. That's where I learnt it. That's where I learnt it. There it is. What, off Sister? Henry VIII. Yeah, she was lovely. Sister Wendy. Henry VIII. Started a new religion to get divorced. I mean, you were a big lad, weren't you, Henry VIII? Yeah.

59:29Phil Tufnell: I saw Gatley on it. Would you like your steak, take its horns off and wipe its off? Is that right? Yeah.

59:37Michael Vaughan: I saw Gat the other day at Lord's. I saw Gat the other day at Lord's. He looks like him. He looks like him. Yeah. But we're not happy Hedinley's not got a test match in 27. Come on, in the last 10 years... But wait, ask him. He's been quiet now about Hedinley. Come on. The last 10 years, are we agreeing that Hedinley has been the most entertaining... Always delivers. ...test venue in the last 10 years in the UK? It has. I get that point, yeah. It's been a great place for this England side to play cricket.

1:00:08Phil Tufnell: I can feel that however. You're not happy saying that, are you? No, I'm not happy saying that. I'm not a massive fan of the ground. I just never have been.

1:00:16Michael Vaughan: The food's improved this week, so you've got good food. What's up with the ground? Pitch is great. I just don't like it. Crowd's great. You must have scored a load there. Did you get 100 there? I think I definitely got one. Only one. But it is, I don't know the slope. That's why he's not happy.

1:00:31Phil Tufnell: doesn't like Henningley and played all his career at Chelmsford.

1:00:36Michael Vaughan: That's a postage stamp, isn't it, down there? Yeah. You're allowed to not have favourite grounds, are you, for your personal, yourself? I want to know who are the people that decide that they're not going to have an Ashes Test match north of Birmingham. I agree. I mean, come on. So you've got to have it. North of Trent Bridge. Trent Bridge. Well, similar, isn't it? Well, no, not the other Birmingham, a different line. But it's kind of... So would you rather an Ashes Test match Old Trafford or Headingley, if you could only choose one?

1:01:02Phil Tufnell: If I could only choose one? Lovely.

1:01:04Michael Vaughan: This is a good question. Very good Alistair. Back at you. Lovely. It's a tough one for you.

1:01:10Phil Tufnell: Yeah, it's a... I'll come back next week. LAUGHTER Sorry, I'll mention that next week.

1:01:18Michael Vaughan: Right, here's another question. It's Glastonbury this weekend. Oh, the great unwashed. What would be your dream headline at? ACDC. ACDC. I don't know. I would go Queen. I would love her. I like Kylie. That's fine, you could have Kylie. I like Kylie, I used to have a poster on my wall. What? Kylie Minogue? She used to be in Neighbours. I know she did. I like Kylie as a kid.

1:01:47Phil Tufnell: I still like her. Me and Warren's on commentary, live, live, I've got me glasses on, I had a deal with Specsavers and they've got like a purple tint. Warren says to me, he said, them's classy glasses, do you get them? I said, I've got to deal with specs. He said, these are my Kylie Minogue's range. He said, right, you carry on. He said, carry on. So I'm commentating. He rings her up, gets her on the phone. He says, are you watching the cricket? No. Put the telly on, put the cricket on and there's a bloke with your range of glasses. So she rings back. She says, oh, I've got him. Tell him thanks ever so much for that.

1:02:26Phil Tufnell: Can you get his address? I give him my address, he gives it to her, she sends me a lovely written letter and a bottle of champagne. No way. Honestly. Have you still got it? No, I drunk it. I've still got the bottle. Have you got the letter?

1:02:41Michael Vaughan: I think so. Does she just sign it, Kylie? Kylie. Just Kylie. Yeah. Have you still got it? No, I'm trying.

1:02:51Phil Tufnell: Come on. So you're ACDC? Yeah. What about something... Angus Young. Who? Angus Young. What does he sing? Angus Young's a guitarist. Oh, right.

1:03:00Michael Vaughan: He's dressed as a schoolboy.

1:03:01Phil Tufnell: He's dressed as a schoolboy with his satchel and his cap and his schoolblazer, a pair of swords. He does this one, doesn't he? Angus Young, Malcolm. He does this one, doesn't he? That's it. Nod your head. You've got to nod your head as well. Nod your head as well. That's him, that's him. That's him, that's him. That's him. Oh, ACDC. What's their best song? Thunderstruck. Yeah. How does that go? I'll tell you in a minute. Oh, where's my phone? Dunder. Dunder.

1:03:26Michael Vaughan: Oh, yeah, that song's from me. Yeah, I've heard that, yeah. What's your go-to karaoke?

1:03:31Phil Tufnell: My go-to karaoke is obviously Sweet Caroline or Fulsome Prison Blues. How does that go? I hear the train are coming, it's rolling round the bend. I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when I'm stuck in Fulsome Prison. And life is dragging off. That's actually so... Right, that's just done. That's it, we don't need... Johnny Cash leads us down. Well done, Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash.

1:04:05Michael Vaughan: Did I get the pant right? Did I get the pant roly-poly right? The pant roly-poly is just amazing. All right, brilliant. Let me just practise a BC. I don't want to take... Hold on, it was this, was it? It was this, was it? It was... Like that. That's it, that's it. You've got to jump. Get the leg up.

1:04:23Phil Tufnell: You've got to jump. Get the jump. Oh, was it? Yeah, so it's... Honestly, that roly-poly is going to make me laugh for a long time.

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