Pakistan Preview, Australia Embarrassed and Fleming Head Coach! | Stick to Cricket EP 58

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2:24Michael Vaughan: Are we late? Morning, all. Are we late? We're not. Well, we're not. Eh? We're not, me and you. No. A couple of southerners are late.

2:34Phil Tufnell: Well, they've probably...

2:35Michael Vaughan: M6 is shut.

2:36Phil Tufnell: Is it?

2:36Michael Vaughan: Yep. Trouble on the M6.

2:39Phil Tufnell: Trouble over Bridgewater. Not a good song, that.

2:42Michael Vaughan: Was it?

2:42Phil Tufnell: That was a good song. Trouble over... Trouble water.

2:48Michael Vaughan: That's Garfunkel, innit?

2:49Phil Tufnell: Simon and Harfunkel.

2:55Phil Tufnell: Where are they?

2:56Michael Vaughan: I don't know. I mean, how much stick did they give me?

2:59Phil Tufnell: Yeah. Well, you were always late. Well, I'm not. You were late for a football match, a big football match. And you were the gaffer. Well, I was manager.

3:06Michael Vaughan: You scored the winner.

3:06Phil Tufnell: Man, you did. You scored the winner. Thank you. And that were a worldie, actually. You know what?

3:10Michael Vaughan: I've just been watching on Netflix, Mourinho, three-part doc. It reminds me of you.

3:15Phil Tufnell: Yeah. Similar manager. Yeah. Get the best out of your players, you see. And I'll tell you what. And I could get the air dryer going. More messing. I did it at half time. Tactics. Yeah. Well, if you remember, Gideon Brooks, Daily Express, was centre half. I moved him up to centre forward for the last ten minutes with me. Bang. Yeah. Knocked it down. 3-2. 3-2. Thanks a lot.

3:40Michael Vaughan: Celebrated, didn't I, with my shirt off? You did.

3:42Phil Tufnell: You took your shirt off, which is a yellow card.

3:44Michael Vaughan: It was the Newcastle player that kicked them.

3:46Phil Tufnell: Yeah, he did.

3:47Michael Vaughan: Oh, here they are. Here they are. Come on, lads. What time's it? There they are. No, no, we are. We are, no, we're on time, thank you. I'd just like to thank Rog for getting me here a minute early. He's done a sparkling job. He's still going, Rog. He's still... I've seen him since. Yes, he's tired, mate. He's having a rest. What have you come, Hath? What do you mean? I'm just wasting a lot of them, don't you? It's just me travel kit, mate. How long did it take you to get here? You had those hours. How long did it take you to get here this morning? Well, I got the train. Oh, well, you came up on the train.

4:15Michael Vaughan: No, but usually... Oh, six train from Houston. No, no, but you're going to go for six minutes. Well, you'd be at the 100 yesterday. I was at the 100 Farney, yeah.

4:22Phil Tufnell: Yeah, so was I. Were you working? Yeah, he was there. I was there. I'll tell you what, I was watching that. I didn't hear you.

4:29Michael Vaughan: No. Well, he does... Right, we've worked out. He's on a contract, Phil, on commentary. He does 25 balls every other night. Is that what he does? He does that. He did 100 balls all day. He did 100 balls all day. What, we're good on the monitor, Phil, though, aren't you? When they send the clips in. We did good on the monitor. Hey, Harry, we've got a clip, haven't we, all, too? Have you got the iPad? You do it. It was all right. It was all right. I came away feeling that I'd been entertained. All right, the girls' match didn't go so well. The spag bowl was good. Spag bowl was nice. The girls... It was a shocking final.

5:06Michael Vaughan: Yeah, it wasn't a good final. It wasn't a good final. They got the two, Lickfield and Sutherland, out early and fell away, bowled out for 90. But the whole day I'd been entertained. But then as I was sort of driving home, I'd sort of forgotten who'd won. Right. You know. I've got a question for the ump. For what? Got him a question. Oh, well, yes. Got you a question. We're on commentary. That's right. Phoebe Litchfield. Yes. Locking to be on there. She gets down and she ramps it. Georgia Adams, short, fine leg. She's moved from short, fine leg, say, she's standing here. And as the bowl is running, Phoebe Litchfield's looked around and seen Georgia Adams, where she is.

5:44Michael Vaughan: Yeah. As she's running in, she's obviously watching the ball the better. George Allen moves finer. Might get it. Snooks finer. And then she plays the ramp. Thank you very much, goes straight to it. I think that's a no ball. I don't think she's allowed to move position. I was told that by someone at the MCC. It should have been a five-run penalty. That's it. And a no ball.

6:06Phil Tufnell: Yeah.

6:07Michael Vaughan: That could have changed the whole game. Well, you could argue the best player in the tournament. Yeah.

6:12David 'Bumble' Lloyd: But you're not allowed to walk, do you have to walk in on a straight line?

6:15Phil Tufnell: Yeah, that sort of thing. When I was Lank's coach, it cropped up with Dermot Reeve, who was top. He was top block. Me and Dermot had some falling outs, but I used to like Dermot, but we had a couple of falling outs, particularly about that, that his player, when the baller was running in, was running 20 or 30 yards into a different position. Yeah, that's harsh. Now, that, it's gamesmanship. Cheeky. It's not cricket. No. Not in the spirit. Not in the spirit of the game.

6:47Michael Vaughan: Yeah, and what's the other one? That Durham. And it changed. Tell you what Durham used to do. That's not going to Durham, I mean. No, no, no. He's going with Durham. But where it was good, see, he was always thinking things, wasn't he? Threw his bat away. Threw his bat away when he was batting up. Yeah, can't. What do you mean? Because sometimes, you know, you go like that. Remember, Ricky got out by Warney. Spinners on. Oh, yeah. Spinners on, up, punch it, bang. He would then go like that, throw his bat away, and so if it did run up... It is low, it's not out. You're not on the bat. You're not on the bat.

7:17Michael Vaughan: That actually reminds me of the way that you played Shane Walker. All right, then.

7:24David 'Bumble' Lloyd: So, bowl of bowls are slow ball. Yeah. And there's that signal at the top of the mark for the keeper and the slips to come up with a slow ball. Are you allowed to do that? Before he's set off on his run-up? No, no. As he's running up, the signal, you watch me sneak in. I think it's a long time Has that been stopped? Yeah

7:41Phil Tufnell: Has it? You've got to be in your position It's gamesmanship And you can't change position Once the ball's live Something like that But did you It's very good It's your umpiring You're watching And you're not seeing Somebody who's behind you Running So you're dependent on What are you saying though

7:58David 'Bumble' Lloyd: If you're in that You're thinking It's going to sweep Surely you're allowed To anticipate

8:03Phil Tufnell: No You're in your Fielding position To start That is your position. That's it. One sub-bought. One sub-bought. Then she goes down, and then you go... You're allowed only when the batter moves, then?

8:12David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Yeah.

8:13Phil Tufnell: You can't do it. I know what you're saying, but you can't do it. What's this of the ump? Not in the... Well, I know.

8:18Michael Vaughan: Oh, it's ages since I ump, I had in the 80s. I'm nice calling it. Lads, I've got a clip for you to see. Oh, come on. Watch this. Watch these guys. They do singles across the Ebbacrossing lot until they get a hoot. Is that Pete Moores? Oh, Pete Moores. Do I need this turned up, Bait, or...? He's, er... Do you do any signals on a zebra crossing? Look, right, so watch this. So these guys here, zebra crossing.

8:48David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Welcome to a new series with Beyond the Boundary. How many runs we can get in between the...

8:54Michael Vaughan: So basically, they've got to run as many as they can before the car honks, before they get an infuriated motorist. Hold the shot. Love that.

9:04David 'Bumble' Lloyd: He's shaking. I'm really bloody nervous.

9:06Michael Vaughan: He's fully padded up here. Right, are you ready? Helmet on. Yeah.

9:10David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I really don't want to do this, Vance. Sack it. Here we go.

9:12Michael Vaughan: Right, here he goes. Like the gardening. Right, so he's tapping his bitch down, isn't he? The zebra. Here he goes. He's off. One. One. He's doubled up. He's doubled up.

9:24David 'Bumble' Lloyd: There's no one there yet? Oh, there he is. Embarrassing. Is he just looking at me? I don't know what's going on here.

9:30Michael Vaughan: He's turned blind.

9:31David 'Bumble' Lloyd: How many can I get?

9:32Michael Vaughan: Oh, so there's a car ready to come over the zebra.

9:35David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Just hunt me. What is another? Oh, there's a truck coming. There's a truck. Oh, the truckle.

9:43Michael Vaughan: Why are they truckle? God, he's done well just... Oh, no. There's a few there. Oh, there's a massive truck. Please hunt me. Please. Please. Go. It's like doing the bleep test. Hey, good for Dean. Done well. 15. I'm running away. Do you know what we should try and do? We should try and do it at that. Do you know that Abbey Road Studios, the famous Beatles? Oh, yeah. Abbey Road. We'll get you doing that, Dave.

10:11Phil Tufnell: Oh, great. No, good idea, that.

10:13Michael Vaughan: You're the quickest. Stay there. No, man.

10:19Phil Tufnell: What about a yes, no interlude? The two of us going crossing. No, no. Can't see. And then diving onto a mattress.

10:29Michael Vaughan: Can't see pigeons, waves, waves. No, it's Jack. That's Jack. Right, what else has been out there?

10:35Phil Tufnell: Pigeons can't see.

10:36Michael Vaughan: Pigeons.

10:36Phil Tufnell: York City got a win. 3-2. 3-2. I've heard that the commentator, David Ward, said they were amazing. Amazing?

10:45Michael Vaughan: Bristol Rovers.

10:46Phil Tufnell: Bristol Rovers are a good side. Is that your new manager? No, David Ward's a commentator. No, you've got a new manager. Yeah, yeah.

10:53Michael Vaughan: Yeah, you've got rid of your... Scott. Scott. Oh, sorry, just quickly. First silverware of the season for the Gunners. Hey, that was a bit of a tosing, wasn't it? Was it 3-23 seconds they got a goal?

11:06Phil Tufnell: What, first goal? Yeah.

11:07Michael Vaughan: I thought he missed it. Well, he reckons Man U are winning the league. What's working? He reckons Man U are winning the league.

11:12Phil Tufnell: What's wrong with that? How do you know that?

11:16Michael Vaughan: Who's going to win the league? Arsenal.

11:18Phil Tufnell: Really?

11:19Michael Vaughan: Yeah, Arsenal will win the league. You know how they've got Champions League this year? We're off a run. There's a new show starting just over there. Stick to United.

11:25David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Is that why you're saying United? Yeah. I think United have...

11:29Michael Vaughan: I haven't seen Wayne Rooney. His ear is in that room over there. Go and ask him if United are going to win the league. I don't know him. I'll just go and knock on the door and say, when are United going to win the league? I guarantee you, I'll probably say no.

11:40Phil Tufnell: Well, I'd debate it with him then. Yeah, you'd debate it with him, Dave. Who do you think he's going to win?

11:45Michael Vaughan: Luton, 4-3, got to win.

11:47Phil Tufnell: Luton? I even asked that. That's Monty said they were winning the Premier League.

11:51David 'Bumble' Lloyd: No, good start for the town. Who did you beat? We beat Reading away. 1-0 up after six. Good way. Any away?

11:58Phil Tufnell: Oh, you start earlier than all of us, don't you?

12:01David 'Bumble' Lloyd: A couple of weeks.

12:02Phil Tufnell: I couldn't do stand with you. I was at Colchester. At where? At Accrington. At Accrington. At the Wham Stadium. At the Wham? Wham, wake me up before you go.

12:15Michael Vaughan: I went to Leighton Orient Saturday, and Barry Hearn used to run that club, and in the four corners, he's built four apartment blocks. And Wednesday on, they had 1 ,250 fans, So some of the Wednesdayites went and, it must have been an Airbnb, went and got into the flats, about ten of them on the balcony with a flag driven. Have you got a new owner? Got a new owner, yeah. David Storch. Yeah. Lively. Going well. OK. Is he American? Did you win? We won, yeah. 2-1. First time we've won away. What league are you in now? Div 1, Dave.

12:49Phil Tufnell: Div 1.

12:49Michael Vaughan: League 1. Oh, it's going to be us versus you. Are you meant to have batter on croissant? You don't have jammed it Because they're sort of made in butter You need a bit of butter in it You do need a bit dry Yeah they're nice Before we get started I'd like to thank our partners Betfair So just hit subscribe So you don't miss an episode Enjoy the show

13:22Phil Tufnell: Did you not get expelled from school? Twice I'd save school

13:28Michael Vaughan: You know when someone rings your house Do you pick up a baked beans here With a bit of string What odds would you give it He said probably the same chance of you being the coach Oliver Reid I know where you're going with this And Jesus Christ

13:43David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Because then you'd never run out of wine They were let down by the players Or they picked the wrong team

13:50Michael Vaughan: Does more ball back need to go At the end of the day you know, you just, it pays well, doesn't it? That is the worst ever test loss for Australia cricket. He should know. Do you think they slightly under-risk? I think they did, yes. They're slightly complacent. They've kind of just played a very basic game and battered. Should have been us. Battered them. Should have been us. We've lost our greatest all-rounder because of a curfew. And when he's in the squad for the first test. Too many. If they all play, we're going to marmalise them.

14:26Michael Vaughan: Right, where do you want to start? Shall we start with 100? Yeah. Let's summarise 100. What your team have got the trophy.

14:35Phil Tufnell: Yeah.

14:35Michael Vaughan: The men's. The super giant, the elephants.

14:37Phil Tufnell: So is that a turnaround from the IPL when they were bottom? Same management. Same management. So that's Tom Moody and Justin Langer. No, it's not.

14:47Michael Vaughan: Oh, honestly. They've got Tom Moody, director. Go on. Justin Langer, head coach. Cain Williamson. Advisor. Mentor. Chris Silverwood. Pop Team. I saw him. He was a bowling coach. Must be a bowling coach. Probably. We saw, I think, Paddy Farhart, the old Australian physio. Yes. Their back room. Who else did we see? There was a lot.

15:08David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Wasn't it the old strength and conditioning guy from Surrey and Somerset? Yeah, strong kid. Lovely guy. Yeah.

15:14Michael Vaughan: Who's the captain? Joss Butler. Aidan Markham was. He had to go home, so Joss takes over. Oh, he's a big lad. Who, Joss? No. Oh, Paul. Oh, Paul. He wore a pattern. Tim David, he came up to him. Tim David's a big lump. Got first ball. We would have changed the game, actually, a little bit, didn't we?

15:29Phil Tufnell: And Seifert, he's chunky.

15:31Michael Vaughan: Yeah, he's eotard, yeah. Big arse.

15:33David 'Bumble' Lloyd: But is it, like, a bit of luck? I don't know what's happened to Markham, but Markham goes and suddenly they win five from five, Tor Paul comes in and makes them a better team. Is that great coaching? He wouldn't have played, because I saw Tor Paul... So you think there's an element of fortune to their victory? No, I'm just saying, like... You just said there was. I'm just saying...

15:50Phil Tufnell: He's a better player, isn't he, Paul Walter? The major Markham. Markham?

15:55David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Well, he played, I can say he played. Strong shout, that Dave. Who got false runs?

16:00Michael Vaughan: Well, in this tournament, yes. That's what I'm saying. Paul's a very, very fine cricket. Well, I saw tall Paul. Get balls a bit.

16:08Phil Tufnell: Tall Paul, balls, good hands, smacks it like you wouldn't believe. Markham was out of form, wasn't getting a run.

16:16David 'Bumble' Lloyd: They would never have shamed that team with Markham still there. Well, you wouldn't, you could play a captain, don't you, all the time. I saw Tor Paul at the O in my last game.

16:24Phil Tufnell: Do you? Well, more often than not.

16:27Michael Vaughan: Yes, but do you play your captain even if he gets no, no, no, no, no? Do you have to go, OK, sorry, Skip. Well, I think in this area, you have to. Yeah, of course. I mean, you're in the era where an England Test batter who's just been recalled, Ollie Pope, got dragged off in the 100. Yeah. They subbed him off. Yeah.

16:44Phil Tufnell: Got the hook?

16:45Michael Vaughan: Yeah, he got the hook, yeah. Off you come. He got like, he just hit two boundaries as well. Yeah, off you come. Let me see. That's the modern world of the old board up. Yeah, he hit the last ball.

16:55David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Off you come. He hit his last ball for four. Next thing I know, he's off.

17:00Michael Vaughan: Who did they send in, then? Raza. Yeah, Raza. He travels everywhere, doesn't he? He's playing the show. He plays like two days, doesn't he? I think he came from Sri Lanka. Didn't Rashid, Rashid Khan, where did he go?

17:13David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Because who was he playing for? Then he left. No, in London. Was he in the MLC?

17:18Michael Vaughan: No, did he not? Afghanistan had islands. They basically live on a plane, these guys.

17:21Phil Tufnell: How much is it to go and watch the final?

17:24Michael Vaughan: I think the final was£30 yesterday. £30, five are for children. Well, the Eliminator and the final, I think, is still on the watch of the ECB. Obviously, the group stage is on the watch of the franchise owners now. Right. I mean, the reports are saying, and I'm only going off what I read, that ticket sales are down 5.5%. And viewing figures, and again, and I don't know where they've got their info, are up by 7.5%. Well, it must be the way we're selling it. What, you at the monitor? Your 25 balls. Imagine if you did 50. I'd like to do a few more balls. I would say.

18:07Phil Tufnell: I've been being a watch now. I've been watching 100 on television, so it's on Terrestrial BBC. Yeah. And it's on Sky. Yeah. Sky is very good. You've got to be slightly careful here. Yeah. Sky is very good. The BBC is work in progress. Right. Go on, give us some advice. Don't force it. Right. Let cricket stand on its own. Let it stand on its own. Because it's good. Entertaining.

18:31Michael Vaughan: It's entertaining, but as I said earlier, as I was driving back, I went, who played in the final? Yeah. I don't think I'll remember in a week's time who lost the final.

18:43David 'Bumble' Lloyd: That's just what our generation are thinking about the thing. My little man, who's seven, loves it. This year, he knows who's been traded to who. Do you know what I mean? It's like Top Trump's in the playground. I've suddenly seen it from the other side, where actually I totally understand it now, and they love it.

19:02Phil Tufnell: But if you're on commentary, just be yourself. That's why they've employed you, to be yourself. So don't force it.

19:10David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Don't force it. You have to force it. You've only got 25 balls.

19:13Phil Tufnell: Oh, you've got to make an impact if you've only got 25 balls.

19:17David 'Bumble' Lloyd: you've got to let them know you're there I agree I think I've really enjoyed the 100 this year in terms of standards of cricket in particular the men the men it's been the best the girls of the year so far I think we all understand the girls it's going to take time and time to get better and better and I think it has improved over the five years

19:37Michael Vaughan: I don't think the women's game has improved from last year this year have they got another overseas no I just think it's had one of those years where it hasn't quite you know the games haven't been as close. It's going to take a while.

19:48Phil Tufnell: It's disappointing in 100 deliveries if you're balled out for 90. It happens, doesn't it? It does happen. I'm guilty of that.

19:57David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I watched the men's and I thought, actually, standard, brilliant. I actually don't need any gizmos to it. I think it also. It just needs the cricket. I trust the product. I think the product now, the standard cricket I'm watching, doesn't need people like the fancy stuff off it. Us commentators trying to watch your favourite curry, asking to the player... Well, that's bollocks. Well, I just think it's like...

20:19Michael Vaughan: Hold on, I want to know what Ben Duckett's favourite curry is. Do you? Yes. All right.

20:26David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Well, in the middle of the night. I don't know why.

20:28Michael Vaughan: I sort of do, I sort of do.

20:31David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I just think the cricket's too good for that, and I think that's what I think.

20:35Michael Vaughan: Tactics have changed slightly. How? I think that they've slightly then realised

20:44Michael Vaughan: that, you know... Or you're under pressure now. Don't just go straight away for the 190, you know, and then all of a sudden lose three or four wickets for 30 and you're done.

20:55Phil Tufnell: You're into 130.

20:56Michael Vaughan: Well, I think in the women's game that's been their problem. I think they've been trying to get to 170 and they've ended up falling short. Yeah. I think you get to 120. If you're catching a women's team, you go get 130. 130, if you get to 150. There you go. I say you're right in the game. Yeah. Massively. Instead of going, right, we're going to go.

21:14Phil Tufnell: But it's disruptive, isn't it? It's entertaining, but disruptive to the rest of cricket if they're taking up the majority of August. Yeah. Although the Metro Bank has been a raging success. Think what, with crowds?

21:28Michael Vaughan: Yeah. Been really good. Do you know what, Dave? I get that there's a huge amount of following for the county game. We're county people as well. Yeah. But I think they've got to understand that without the 100 sale, you know the most important thing is the players in terms of where would they play their cricket if you don't own your own league and a league a franchise league where you can pay your players a lot of money to stay in your own backyard our players in our summer would go and play in the mlc in america they'd go and play in the caribbean premier league so the county game would be hit a lot harder if we didn't have the hundred because all our better play all those players that aren't quite playing for England, but at the heartbeat of the county game, real quality player.

22:15Michael Vaughan: Donald, brilliant player. He might go on and play for England. I think he's got the talent to do so. But you need those kind of players, the Lewis Gregories, the Overtones. You need them in our game. And the only way that you can keep them in our game is by having this window where they're going to earn a lot of money for four weeks. And then after that and before that, they're playing in our county system.

22:36David 'Bumble' Lloyd: The window now, if they can keep it last two weeks of July and the first two weeks of August, they've still then got two county championship games in the end of August for the kids. It'll be intriguing to see now. It'll be really intriguing to see how many people go to the next two games still on the summer holidays. We'll see whether the 100 does have that impact. We went to the 100, we don't see a cheap game of cricket.

23:01Michael Vaughan: You're right to mention the Metro. because there's an extra overseas player this year in the 100, that's raised the standard of the Metro. Because there's one or two players that potentially would have been in the 100 squad, not in the squad, who happen to play for their counties. So you look at some of those, you know, Middlesex have got a strong team out. They've made the final. Durham's team, you know, Yorkshire have had a strong team. Notts have had a relatively decent side in terms of experience, but also throwing one or two youngsters in as well. I think it's been a real success for four weeks.

23:31Michael Vaughan: You know, the 100 has been good to watch. The standard's gone up. And I think the Metro Bank standard's gone up as well. And the crowds have related.

23:38Phil Tufnell: But the weather's been fantastic for watching cricket. But you're also, for the Metro, is that you're seeing young cricketers. Local young cricketers who are given an opportunity. I've seen some absolute belters. Oh, have you? Go on.

23:51Michael Vaughan: He's had Rocky Flint.

23:53Phil Tufnell: I've saw that. He should be playing against Pacquiao. Fast-tracking. He's got to be fast-tracked into international cricket. But he's in the Lions. He's been in the Lions. He's been injured. He's coming back. Absolute quality. A century. Joe Moore is class. Real class. Will Benison at Yorkshire. Luke Robinson. Benison or Benison? Benison.

24:15Michael Vaughan: Benison.

24:15Phil Tufnell: He's just finished his eggs out.

24:16Michael Vaughan: He's a proper player. I bet you he farms Benison. He's from around York. Oh, is he? Yeah. Yeah, he is. There's Ben Dawkins at Kent. There's Ben Mays at Hampshire. You mentioned... Calum Falter. That Benison might go to the 100. I'll tell you what these kids need, Dave. I've got the finger pointing. What these kids need is a lot of cricket. They've got to play cricket. Let them play. There shouldn't be any rush. None of them should be rushed.

24:46Phil Tufnell: His lad, Archivore. Archivore. Archivore. Archivore. Proper. Absolutely. Lovely. Tall. Yeah. Spins it. Let them all play. He can open the bat and he can bat six. Ball's off spin. Carnage against Lancashire, they were lamping it all over the show. East figures, 10 overs, 2 for 49.

25:11David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I'm with you of fast-tracking a bit, but I want to see those players you've all just mentioned, all those names you just... I want to see them in the county championship start to deliver some runs. They've had to work... So Rocky's had to work for his opportunity because he didn't start the season, which... We should have done. Yeah, but selection doesn't always happen. You go with...

25:29Phil Tufnell: Martin Striscoff, it went straight from Somerset with a 30 because of Duncan Fletcher, fast-tracking him. Yeah, but he was 25 and he got hundreds.

25:37Michael Vaughan: He scored a few hundreds as well. He was averaging 30, but he'd also scored a few first-class hundreds before he played free.

25:43Phil Tufnell: But don't forget, he was England's schoolboys under-14s and 15s captain and the under-19s captain.

25:49David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Yeah, no, but... What I've got to do with a slice of bacon.

25:52Phil Tufnell: Because he went back to Somerset and he were batting eight. Right. He was batting eight and coming on first change, if you remember.

25:59Michael Vaughan: Well, I'm a big believer that these young kids, we've got a huge amount of talent in the UK. We have. But what they need to do is play cricket and go and experience cricket away from home in the winter as well. Yes. You know, the Lions programme, it's all OK, right? It's great to get those three Lions on your chest, but go and play great cricket for a winter or two. That's good. Go and play in South Africa. Go and understand yourself.

26:20Phil Tufnell: But also, the Lions is a good stepping stone of international cricket within that environment of international cricket playing against another country.

26:28Michael Vaughan: Of course it is. It's kind of the next step. It's having that representation. But it's also very important for young players to go and find out who they are by being a bit independent. Yes. Yeah. Make your bed. You went to university. I went to Craiglands University. And what did you learn? I was 17. To make his bed. Nuclear physics. I will guarantee you've never, ever made your own bed. Absolutely I did. When? Absolutely I did. I had to do that. I'd do my own washing. Piss off. I did have to do my homework. I was 16 years old, turned up in Brisbane. 16? 16, no, 17. 17. Just turned 17. Did you do A-levels?

27:06Michael Vaughan: No. OK, so you just went straight over to us? Yeah, I went straight over to us. You went to the University of Life? I went to the University of Brisbane.

27:13Phil Tufnell: Did you not get expelled from school?

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30:47Michael Vaughan: Right, here we go. 100, Marsh leading run scorer, 416. Striking at 169. That's good. Seifert, 394, striking at 169. I'm just looking at these strike rates. You're looking at Rickleton, striking at 173, 345. Butler, Butler's back. Yeah, a little bit. Butler's gone. I tell you, I read a quote from Joss Butler. He said, Marcus Triscothic had worked with him on technique. Make sure your technique's OK. and then you can do all the fancy stuff around it. So when you think he's probably our greatest ever white ball player and he's gone back to going, right, I need to look after my technique. Absolutely.

31:23Michael Vaughan: Get your technique right and then you can... Yeah. So the word technique's coming back. Yeah, a solid back. A solid back. How did your interview go with Baz? He was all right, yeah. Yeah. We'll get on to Steve Fleming. We haven't even spoken about Steve Fleming. I'm sorry, carry on. We'll get on to that in a bit. I've got a bit now. No, he was fine. When did you interview him? Pitchside. We only had a few minutes. What, when? He's very good, Baz, because he's learnt the art of answering a question for a long time. Yeah. So you can't get too many questions in. Nah! He's very clever. You've only got six minutes.

31:59Michael Vaughan: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

32:00Phil Tufnell: Where was this, then?

32:01Michael Vaughan: Pitch side at the Lords yesterday. Oh, that's a good tip. Right. So if someone sort of asks you a tricky question... Was he watching London? Was it written a lot of time? He's been at a few of the 100 ballgames. OK. What, watching the next play? He's going back to that. That's what he said, yeah. I saw him after us. He was in good form. Yeah, I mean, he's looking at the next kind of group that he can bring in or looking at a few tactics. And then he goes back to New Zealand. Then he'll be back in, what, September? Yeah, looking after the war. Sri Lanka. We might as well, now we're on it, we might as well get on to Stephen Fleming.

32:31Michael Vaughan: Go on then. Yeah.

32:32Phil Tufnell: He takes over for South Africa.

32:34Michael Vaughan: Yeah. He does. So he's not here for the Pakistan series, which starts at Headley. So that's Trez. That's Trez. So Trez Gothick is the interim. or standing.

32:44Phil Tufnell: Yes, caretaker.

32:45Michael Vaughan: Yeah. So were we surprised? No. By Stephen Fleming's appointment? No. Not once.

32:52Phil Tufnell: Who else was in the frame?

32:53David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I think they asked Flower, didn't they? Flower said he could... Flower had sort of... I think they asked Flower, are you available when he said... I think you called it at Lord's Stephen Fleming, Sir Alistair. It almost lined up too well, didn't it? Leave Chennai, which is probably the right... You do 18 years at Chennai. 18 years? I think so. 18 years? You do 18 seasons? Is that wrong? Oh, blimey. Done a lot anyway. 17.

33:14Michael Vaughan: Sorry, done a lot.

33:15Phil Tufnell: And I would guess Justin Langer probably wasn't... And he's just won the 100. Yeah. Tom Moody?

33:23Michael Vaughan: Were they last in the IPL? Oh, well, he won the 100. He was another coach that we'd missed out. Who, Tom Moody? Well, again, I think Jonathan Trott was interviewed. I think Richard Dawson was interviewed. Obviously, I think they're denying that they went for Andy Flower, but I believe they did. I reckon they must have.

33:41David 'Bumble' Lloyd: They definitely must have. They must have had a conversation with Andy Paght. Didn't he? What he said. He said, I've had discussions, but I'm not available. Didn't he say that on his first interview at Spirit?

33:48Michael Vaughan: I mean, Stephen Fleming, again, I'm only going from when I played against him. He was a very, very smart captain. Yeah, very much. Very good cricket thinker. He's renowned in the IP. If you think about the IPL, he's had MS Downey beside him. So that's, you know, realistically, it's MS's team, isn't it? When he goes on to the field, it's MS. But to manage all those people and to manage up at the IPL, you must have some kind of really good management skills. So I think I get a sense we're going to see a bit more sense. A bit more refinement. I think we're going to get a little bit more sense.

34:18David 'Bumble' Lloyd: For me, it was the only can that you could do if you had to work with Brendan McConnell. They've worked the play together, and I think more importantly, they've been in business together. They've got business together. Yeah, they'll be coming to you. They sell lambs. I haven't yet, but...

34:32Michael Vaughan: You were telling me the other week, good week for the lambs, wasn't it, the other week? Yeah, we sold our sheep when I kept tamed.

34:42David 'Bumble' Lloyd: it's important if you've got the coach you can get in with him and get a bit of lamb sales going so they don't have to force that I couldn't see who else could work with Baz still there the one day I had Lehman as the only other person I could see fitting that relationship people like Trotty and Dawson I generally think their time will come but I just think that relationship would be too hard to manage because a player will always favour

35:07Michael Vaughan: one of the two coaches well I'm looking I mean, Freddie Flintoff has stepped down from the Lions, so there's an opportunity. I mean, they haven't announced the backroom team for Stephen Fleming's group yet. Now, will it stay the same? Yeah. Or will he be looking... I mean, I read the day, Michael Hussey, who's been with him at Chennai for many years. Wouldn't mind that. I'd take Hussey all day long.

35:28Phil Tufnell: So if he's got the job, he's going to have an influence

35:30Michael Vaughan: on his backroom team. You're going to want your own team, aren't you? Yeah. You were football manager, you wanted your own... Yeah. When you were an England coach, did you have your own team? Sort of, yeah. We only turned up. There was only a rubber. There was only a rubber. There was only a rubber. We got a bag of balls.

35:52Phil Tufnell: In a scorebook. If you remember, we got pelted because we had six backroom staff. Oh, who did you have? Who was yours? We had a trainer. Yeah, who was it? We had a trainer in, Dean Riddle. Did you know him before? Rats, rabbits, rats, rabbits. Remember that game you could play? Wayne Morton was physio brilliant physio with Steve Bull

36:13Michael Vaughan: psychology oh yeah he had it popped in a cocktail had it a time

36:17Phil Tufnell: well but did you choose him sort of yeah yeah I had a yeah I had a did you get rid of anyone

36:25David 'Bumble' Lloyd: and swap them in anyone

36:26Phil Tufnell: no Bob Cotton Alan Knott he brought his own bowling boots out Bob Bob Cotton pace and bounce pace and bounce yes and bounce

36:39I think

36:40Phil Tufnell: Can he tried him did so we had six Alan Knott was wicketkeeping coach Bob Cotton was bowling coach but we didn't have a fast bowling spin bowling thanks Batey Batey Gucci Batey pop in yeah

36:56Michael Vaughan: in those days if you played for Yorkshire in the seconds and Doug Padgett was the coach if you could nick a ball or two from the opposition you got another game it didn't matter if you scored any runs or wickets maybe you could nick a couple of balls get it in our bag

37:12Phil Tufnell: and again when you're coaching you turn up with a bag of balls and all your lads are saying these are rubbish can't play with these was he my cram he'd find a rag I ball with this

37:27Michael Vaughan: fantastic well you're not far wrong with sort of bringing in people Well, when you played, it would have been no one. When I started, it was Mickey Stewart. Yeah. Laurie Brown. Yes. And your team manager. That was us. And what was he? He used to work for Kiwone. Peter Lush. Peter Lush. Yeah. He was manager. Manager. Yeah. He used to give you per diems, you know, and say, get up. A little envelope.

37:59Phil Tufnell: So in 74 or 5, we had Alec Benzer, manager. AC Smith, assistant manager with Bernard. Yeah. Bernard Thomas. Bernard would give you a bit of a rub and give you a couple of pills, sort the tickets out. A couple of pills. Yeah.

38:14Michael Vaughan: Hey, those envelopes used to be great, didn't they? Yeah. Used to get your exes. Oh. Used to last me an evening. You know what I mean? Used to get, right, that's two weeks, Phil. You know, look after how you go and everything. Boom, straight away. I love how we've gone from talking to... Right, we were right. Joe Root's the captain, by the way. Joe Root's back. What do you make of that? Just go back, right? Root quotes from 2022. Yeah. It had become a very unhealthy relationship, the captaincy and me. I couldn't leave it at the ground anymore. It was coming home. As soon as I made the decision, I knew it was the right thing to do.

38:46Michael Vaughan: I felt like a weight, a huge weight, had been lifted. I want to say something. Listen, I don't know why I'm doing this because I've got a couple of captains sat around me here. I want him to be his own captain. I don't want him to try and come in and be this basball captain. You know what I mean? He's already stated that. He's already done an interview saying, we want to play the right style of cricket for the moment. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, you're kind of sort of going to say that anyway, aren't you? But I just want him to be... Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't want him to be his old self a little bit, which I think perhaps wasn't right.

39:21Michael Vaughan: Well, I think when you look back, when he first took that job, you know, there was Broden Anderson. So Alistair's still playing. Yeah. Josh Bult was around. There was Ben Stokes. Quite a senior group. And he probably didn't have that kind of presence to be able to captain all those players. And there was COVID. There was obviously England trying to win the World Cup in 19. Tough time. I feel that, I think you said it somewhere. I think I might have read it. There's probably never been a more experienced person to take the job because he's done it now for a number of games. He's had all the kind of traumas of it.

39:57Michael Vaughan: Now, if he uses all that to a positive extent now, we've probably got the most experienced... Well, yeah. Or is the most experienced captain that we've ever had.

40:07David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I thought at the end of your captaincy, you were a better captain at the start of it, just for what you've done, but you've just had enough of it. So he's... Why can't you go back, in one sense? Because everyone said, don't go back, isn't it? That's the same. Don't want to go back, but why don't you? But anyway, when it first announced, I was like... I was a little bit... Do you know what I mean? Like, we've seen this before. I like it with seeing something different however looking back yeah I think refreshed I honestly don't see it more than a year though I think it's a year to try and win the Ashes and then I think do you reckon

40:39Michael Vaughan: Harry takes over after the World Cup next year yeah I think so

40:41David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I think that's how it's good you can't plan too much but I think that's how I see this you've got almost Rooty he won't say that but I think you've got a year to do it good safe hands I think you'll learn a hell of a lot from Stokes just how to maybe communicate with players because that empathy, which was kind of the major difference, wasn't it? I think Stokes he had over any other England captain was being that empathy with players. I think I learned that. And he will be fine. I'd really help Fleming really help Root in those tricky situations, the captain. Yes. That oval. I know it wasn't his team.

41:18David 'Bumble' Lloyd: He was only doing it for one game. But that hour and a half the second day where they bounced everyone for an hour and a half and it didn't work, I want to see that relationship. with him and Fleming going, you know, tried for 20 minutes and then Fleming then takes a bit of control, sees it out and goes, no, I'm going to have that power to tell Ruti, don't do that.

41:36Michael Vaughan: Yeah, I think what's interesting also about Fleming, I played under Fleming, he was middle-sex captain. Really? Yeah, he was. He was a sex captain, yeah. We're so lucky to have you, Tuff. I played under it. I think that he'll change quite a few things. And I think he'll try and sort of play in that. And I played against him a couple of series when he was captain. And they had that kind of, you know, solid, not all pace attack. You know what I mean? Chris Harris. Yeah, it was a little bit more funky and perhaps a cook, you know, bowling. Sam Cook's in the squad. There you go, like a top of off stump.

42:18Michael Vaughan: and, you know, it won't be all smash, smash, smash and there'll be a dogged player there. You know what I mean? Like that old sort of school New Zealand kind of thing.

42:26Phil Tufnell: So go on then. How many is in the squad for the first test? Too many. If they all play, we're going to marmalise them.

42:34Phil Tufnell: Let's pick the team.

42:35Michael Vaughan: Come on, let's pick the team. 16 in the squad. Right, pick the team. I don't think you can play 16, Phil. No, let's play. So a little ducky. It'll be a little ducky and... We just assume everyone's fit. Emilio Gait actually just bagged a pair against Pakistan stand in the warm-up game. Right. Good time to do it. Number three, there's no... Jacob Bethel's injured. Jordan Cox is going to bat three. Jordan, that's three. Root, four. So they've gone for... Root, four. An aggressor at three. Root, five. Yeah, number six will be... Well, Dan Lawrence has come back. Six, Lawrence. A bit more experience.

43:06Michael Vaughan: Seek will be back in. Jamie Smith will be seven. Seven, Smith. Eight, nine, ten, eleven. Gus Atkinson will be eight. Eight. I think... Tong. Joffre Archer will be nine. Nine. Tong. Tong, ten. I think it'll be Tong. 10, and I'm guessing... Cook or Bashir? Or Robinson. Or Robinson. Cook, Bashir, Robinson. I think Robinson. Ollie Robinson.

43:26David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I think Dan Lawrence, the ball offspin for them. So do I. If everyone's fully fit and OK, that's the team I'm going.

43:32Phil Tufnell: So this lad, Sam Cook, is in the squad again and doesn't get a go?

43:36Michael Vaughan: Not the first time I've asked him this week, but I'm sure he'll play in the series at some stage. Where's the game? Headingley. What's it like? It's like a big green field. No, it's not. It's round at the beginning. Cardigan Road, Headingley. Great night out. Yeah. Great for the students. The students will be back. Has it turned there recently? There's a bit of grab. There can be a bit of grab there, but... I think we might get a bit of rain this year. This spinner spot has proven tricky, innit? Because they want to play four seamers, don't they? They want to play four seamers. He's a proper baller.

44:07Michael Vaughan: Archie Vaughan.

44:08Phil Tufnell: Proper baller.

44:09Michael Vaughan: Leave him out of this for you. He's miles off. He isn't. No, he isn't. No, but he is because he needs to play cricket. Lots of it. He's playing cricket. I know. The one thing I'll say, and Marcus North has come out recently and said that Shoy Bashir is England's number one spinner. Now, the one thing that just baffles me with that is that, and I know it's a different format, how does Bashir not get in Derbyshire's Metro Bank team? If he's the number one spinner in the country. How do you not get in?

44:35Phil Tufnell: Well, Mickey Arthur knows a thing or two about cricket,

44:37Michael Vaughan: but why wouldn't he get in that team?

44:39Phil Tufnell: Bloody good, Mickey Arthur.

44:40Michael Vaughan: Yeah, very, very good. Who's the spinner that plays ahead of him? Donbess. He's playing for Yorkshire. Yeah, that little Dobbess is a good cricketer. Good cricketer. Captain's Yorkshire. There you go, good cricketer. Can I hold the willow? Yeah. Do you know what's... Can I have one thing?

44:56David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Do you know what I think I did like? Was when they said that Sam Curran would have been... Yes. If he was fit. Because he isn't a Ben Stokes... Ben Stokes, obviously, he's not at that standard. And that's no disrespect for Sam Curran in terms of... And I think everyone will agree with that in test matches. However, he is our next best all-rounder. Absolutely. So I think you have to play an all-rounder.

45:19Phil Tufnell: Overton?

45:20David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Yeah, I bet he was mentioned. Yeah. I think you'd say Sam's probably a slightly better batter than Craig.

45:26Michael Vaughan: Yeah, yeah, probably. But I would argue that Craig's bowling a bit better. It depends. But if you've got those three headings... Sam's one of those cricketers. He'll score you a few runs. He's a decent fielder. And if the ball's swinging, he's hand. And if it's not swinging, he can. But he plays. And this is what I think we'll see this England side become a little bit under flame, you know what I mean? Decent cricketers. A bit more sense. A bit more sense. Decent cricketers. Not just going back to the old days where everyone had a bit of a... Phil, on the word sense, I know you'll be happy with this.

45:55Michael Vaughan: The curfew's gone.

45:56Phil Tufnell: Gone. Curfew. Wasting time. And Sam Curran, he's very like Brian Crump. Very like Brian Crump. Brian Crump used to open the ball in for no offense in his cap. He used to keep his cap on.

46:10Michael Vaughan: What year was that? He couldn't have run in too fast.

46:14Phil Tufnell: Get the producers to have a look at Brian Crump's first-class record.

46:19Michael Vaughan: Your tickets for Rotherham Away are sorted. Oh, have they? Yeah, yeah, it's just messy. But now tell Bumble it'll be sorted. Oh, fantastic. Thanks very much. That Saturday? Yeah, the Minster Men. What, Rotherham?

46:32Phil Tufnell: Oh, York City. What was he called? Brian who? Brian. Brian Crump. Crump. How did he run in fast with his hat on? He didn't run in fast. He would just like Sam Curran, tiny. Tiny little bloke. Is that the... Grumpy, that's Grumpy. Grumpy, right, let's have a look at his stats. You look at his stats. So Sam Curran... You'll have a look at them stats. And I'll put Crumpy's stats up against Sam Curran. Right, let's have a look at Crumpy's stats. Go on.

47:02Michael Vaughan: Well, he averaged 23 with the bat. Thank you. High score of 133. Uncovered pictures. All right, yeah. He had 814 wickets, Crumpy. That's all right. 24. Less than that. Sam Curran averages 24 in test, so similar to Crumpy. Yeah. 23. 7 for 29 was his best. What's his average? 24.77, Crumpy. With a ball? Yeah. That's strong, that. He's an 8, that's an 8. And Sam's averaging 35 with a ball, so he's got a little bit to get to Crumpy's level. He's got to do a bit to get to Crumpy's level.

47:36David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I reckon Sam's batting, that was a few years ago, averaging 20-odd. He played some very important innings, actually.

47:43Michael Vaughan: He's still available. Slightly bad news for Crumpy against Australia when he played against them on the 5th of August 1972. He got 3-1. So he couldn't do it against the Aussies?

47:55Phil Tufnell: No, I mean, he just had a bad day, didn't he? About an half day. I bet he got wickets. 1-7.

48:00Michael Vaughan: I like what old Brendan said about Stephen Fleming. What did he say? He said he's a little bit like me. You know, he's just like me, but a bit better. I quite like that.

48:13Phil Tufnell: That's good, that, isn't it?

48:14Michael Vaughan: I thought that was good. Back to the curfew. Do you know what? I had a bit of a chuckle and a smile the other day. Yeah, why are you looking at me? Well, curfews are always... My domain. You're the expert. Curfew master. Always go out the back room. We've lost our greatest all-rounder because of a curfew. Absolutely. And then a game later, we don't have a curfew. I know, absolutely. Well, that's why it was such a chaotic set. It was so chaotic. I don't think they knew. I think they'd be lucky getting Flem as well in a little way because I don't think they would think of that.

48:42Phil Tufnell: I think we all wish Joru the best. Absolutely, yeah. And will Ben Storks come back? No.

48:50Michael Vaughan: What did Brendan say to you? I asked him, didn't I? I said, you know, you're a punter. What odds would you give it? He said, probably the same chance of you being the coach. I thought, well, that's not happening. He said, well, there you go. he's made his decision yeah I get a sense that Frank Sinatra made a decision no I'm still in the camp the next summer you know England will just have had a winter away he'll have had a winter no doubt playing in Australia don't know where he'll go after that whether he'll go to Pakistan I hear that he might go to Major League Cricket if he goes to Major League Cricket and he signs that contract he cannot play in the Ashes if it's at the same time so if he signs that contract in America and he goes over there there's no way that he can play in the Ashes so over the next few weeks weeks, that deal, if it's going to get done, it'll get done.

49:35Michael Vaughan: And if he signs it, that's him.

49:37Phil Tufnell: Are we still doing that demonstration in April and May to go up to the Riverside at Durham that Ben must return with the placards and all the spectators? Oh, is that what we're doing? We're supposed to be doing that. We'll get Roger

49:49Michael Vaughan: to take us. Roger will take us, won't he? Yeah. We shall. Only if he's playing alright. He hasn't got so many in the match. BBB. He's got 100 against Derby. He hasn't got so many since. Bring Ben back. BBB. BBB. Yeah, just waving it around. What do we want? Then back. When do we want it? Now. It was strolling down the ground. What t-shirts are we going to wear? I don't know. Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair.

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52:03Michael Vaughan: Right, let's move on. Let's move on now. I'll tell you what we've got to talk about, and it's been a tremendous week for Bangladesh. Oh, my God. What a week. The greatest ever test victory. Ever? I reckon one of the biggest ever upsets ever. Well, Robert Craddock, you know, Crash Craddock. One of the big journalists in Australia. Big journalist, big journalist. I can't remember how many test matches of Australia play, so that is the worst ever test loss for Australia cricket. He should know. Well, and also, the one thing that kind of, again, a smile, because Bangladesh have arrived, they've prepared okay.

52:41Michael Vaughan: They haven't got airspeed and they haven't got rapid bowlers. They've got top of off, little dobbers. Yes, they have. They've got a good offy. Yeah. And their batter's just played. Just played. played stuck in batted for a bit of a period of time

52:53Phil Tufnell: it was a Darwin wasn't it?

52:54Michael Vaughan: Darwin yeah they've kind of just played a very basic game and battered should have been us battered them should have been us and that was Australia's first team I know it should have been us that's why we all came back from there so annoyed because that we thought that that should have been us you know what I mean that performance should have been us

53:14David 'Bumble' Lloyd: great for cricket

53:14Michael Vaughan: but it just shows doesn't it if you just arrive with a group of players willing to do the basics well no matter who you play if you deliver the basics really well with bat with the ball and the court well I fear for them in the second test match yeah maybe maybe they'll get blown away but I tell you what I'd fear for the Australians

53:33Phil Tufnell: are we playing Bangladesh next summer

53:35Michael Vaughan: well we go to Bangladesh so England play Pakistan for three South Africa is there three over there yeah three and then Bangladesh for a couple then they play Bangladesh in May in Bangladesh two away that'll be a tough challenge yeah England will need some spin there

53:51Phil Tufnell: in Dhaka?

53:53Michael Vaughan: I'm not too sure where the venues are but Bangladesh at home they're not an easy Chittagong

53:57Phil Tufnell: down the gong

53:58Michael Vaughan: down the gong down the gong no down the gong yeah that's probably the best one

54:03Phil Tufnell: down the gong

54:03Michael Vaughan: I mean you look at some of the Mahmood got 6 for 55 in the first inning just wobbling it around Mahady got Pfeiffer in the second inning well they're played a beauty actually to get rid of Webster yeah I see that Cameron Green I mean Hazelwood got 6-3 he got past 300 test wickets Cameron Green was the only kind of shining light for Australia he got a ton but they're going to have to make change aren't they? They'll give it one Well who's safe? I think Weatherall will be gone I think they'll have to make change I heard a whisper Renshaw will come back in I'll tell you a cricketer I'd be looking at if I was there was a batter is that Nathan McSweeney?

54:43Michael Vaughan: Yeah yeah Baptism of hell Labashane's not better than easy Well, they're going to have to make a decision on Landershane.

54:50Phil Tufnell: Yeah, they are.

54:51David 'Bumble' Lloyd: No, Ron. I reckon they'll go one more with Wetherill. But I don't think it changes whether he scores a few or not because if you're an England bowler, we're watching it in that series thinking, you don't mind bowling against him. He's done the poor old. He's getting LBW, isn't he? Because getting his front foot that way, then he's opened up and he's nicked off and chopped on.

55:11Michael Vaughan: Yeah. Well, Jim Maxwell, our colleague. Yes. He said it's one of the most embarrassing defeats Australia have ever had. That's not like jumping on it, is it? That's why it kind of grates at me that the England team, they missed a huge opportunity. Well, of course it was. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's a legacy moment. You've done it in 2010-11. You just don't get the chance to beat an Australian side often. And who knows where they'll be in four years' time. The one thing you know with Australian cricket, they will find a team. Yeah. and this team will improve they're not going to play any worse than they played

55:47David 'Bumble' Lloyd: they're obviously a bit short weren't they and they kind of will bat on a green seamer because I think they psyched whether it was deliberately or not but just weren't out of the races thinking we will beat these guys

55:56Michael Vaughan: do you think they slightly underestimated I think they did yes slightly complacent when they toss and bowl on a green one

56:02David 'Bumble' Lloyd: a bat on a green one we just bowl them out then yeah

56:04Michael Vaughan: well the Aussies have avoided playing Bangladesh a lot you know because they don't really care too much

56:11David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I'm Bangladesh brilliant and we always say test cricket or cricket and we just need other nations well done the dash yeah the dash let's go that way

56:18Michael Vaughan: and I'll say now that I've watched a lot of Pakistan recently they went to the West Indies got beaten the first test second test match they suddenly played great yeah yeah and their batters are indecent Nick they've got a bowling attack that is threatening Mohamed Abbas with a keeper stood up will be a threat they've played two test matches and a warm up game and I well let's talk this schedule that England have got this summer so you've got 100 ball final yesterday, Josh Tonkosakson are going to be playing test match cricket on Wednesday. Next year, the Ashes finishes on August 2nd. When do you reckon the 100 ball starts?

56:53Michael Vaughan: Third. The next day. I mean, you're asking these players to just suddenly just switch it on like this. Near on impossible. I think Pakistan, as much as England are clear favourites, they could give us a shot. And they came back into it, didn't they? They came back into it in that warm-up game. They sort of had two or three days. Yeah, but they had two or three bad sort of, you know, OK days and then switched it on. Well, what you know I say...

57:19David 'Bumble' Lloyd: He got four for it, didn't he?

57:20Michael Vaughan: Yeah. So he must have bowled well. Yeah. You look at, you know, warm-up games, we've all been in them. The first innings, you're just giving a few overs to your bowlers, aren't you? Everyone bowls four or five, so it's not really a proper game. No, no. And then suddenly, I think Pakistan, we're getting beat here, right, switched on.

57:35David 'Bumble' Lloyd: But if you are picking a side for your at-home in world cricket for someone to play who won one game out of, they lost eight of their last nine test matches away. Surely Pakistan, you're not having a team you wouldn't rather play. I think if you're picking, you're not picking Australia, you're not picking New Zealand,

57:53Michael Vaughan: you're not picking... But aren't Pakistan that side that, they're the side, as you mentioned, that you think, oh yeah, I want to play them. But they're also that side that when they arrive and play...

58:03David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I mean, everyone's slight. I just think they just won't score. And they are prepared, aren't they?

58:06Michael Vaughan: I can't see them scoring enough runs. No, but I... Babin Abbas, you just said it, Babin Abbas and those guys. Keep her up. I think he's got 900 first-class wickets. Has he? He's got me a few times. There you go, Sir Alistair.

58:21Phil Tufnell: Who's the coach? Who's the coach?

58:25Michael Vaughan: It's Akeem Jarvis. All right. Yeah, Akeem Jarvis. I'll tell you Akeem Jarvis. I played in the Oval against him and that was Richie Beno when he went, steady on. Do you remember that? on the... Is that what he said?

58:41Phil Tufnell: So it'd be Wazim and Waka and Aki Javi behind them. That's right, yeah.

58:47David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I don't think Pakistan will score enough runs against that one to consistently challenge. But, but then again,

58:55Michael Vaughan: what a great opportunity for Pakistan. I think they'll be harmful. We're not coachless, but you know what I mean? All the sort of upheavals of England, they'll be thinking to themselves, you were saying about back to time, and what an opportunity. I'm just looking they've gone to the Westerners and they've won a test match yeah you know England over the 15 years we haven't won many times in the Westerners so they've won a game of cricket England should not almost have to win it but they

59:19David 'Bumble' Lloyd: should win it and they should win it well yeah but we said that before the New Zealand series I know we said the New Zealand series if they beat I remember on the series we said I said if they beat them we had to give them credit for beating New Zealand yeah yeah because they're a good side and I didn't want us to go oh we beat New Zealand but they didn't play well you know New Zealand weren't very good New Zealand were a really good side and they found out so I'm going on the other way here I think England Pakistan decent players but they're not the Pakistan of 20 years ago at all so England as a first one of the start of the cycle of 12 this is at home all you guys are playing

59:53Michael Vaughan: England's record at Hedden

59:55David 'Bumble' Lloyd: is excellent

59:55Michael Vaughan: so they should win

59:57Phil Tufnell: who's your commentator from Pakistan?

1:00:00Michael Vaughan: Ramey's Ramey's Roger yeah Ramey's with us knows the business great hair knows the business and he got a great lid Get the iPad. Get the iPad here. We've got five of the best village cricket moments of the season. What do you mean? You just tickled him, didn't you? I just made me just chuckle. Right, start again. We've got five of the best village clips from the season, courtesy of our friends, your mates at Cricket District. Here we go. Ari's giving us the iPad. That's so lovely. And we've got to pick our best, I think, courtesy of our friends at Cricket District. Here's one. Oh! Oh! Right on the coccyx.

1:00:38Michael Vaughan: Right on the coccyx. Right on the coccyx. Oh, what's going on there? What's happened there? Something's coming. What's the throw? What's happening? Oh, no. Run out. Oh, what? Oh. He's going to run out. He's going to get run out. Oh, he's going to trip him up. Trip him up. Oh. That's an absolute shambles. Oh, look at this fella. Oh, he looks a good bowler. Look at the young player. He looks a young batter. Peggy? Oh. Look at your batter. Oh, no. Oh, what's happened there? Oh, no, oh, no, oh, no, oh, no. Oh, no. He's missed it. Oh, no. Missed it twice from a foot. Oh, no. Missed it twice from a foot.

1:01:25Michael Vaughan: Oh, no. Look at the keeper, look at the keeper. Oh, he looks a good batter. Look at that stance. Yeah. It's like Kevin Peterson, that. Look at that. Ready to go. Oh, no. Oh!

1:01:40David 'Bumble' Lloyd: He's pulled it onto the keeper's arse.

1:01:43Michael Vaughan: He's been shot.

1:01:44David 'Bumble' Lloyd: He's sniper.

1:01:45Michael Vaughan: He's sniper down.

1:01:46David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Oh, here we go. That is my favourite so far.

1:01:49Michael Vaughan: Oh, what's that? Oh, she's throwing it straight to the umpire's nuts. She's throwing it straight. Is that what's happened? Definitely a dead ball. A ball in action. Gets into the gather, releasing. Oh, straight into the nuts. Straight into the umpire's, yes. Never. The drift. That's a googly. That's a googly. So which is our favourite. That's the first one. Oh, that hurts. The one with the wicketkeeper up the arse is the one. Yeah, I think so.

1:02:17David 'Bumble' Lloyd: It's got to be the keeper. Yeah, keeper up the arse. Come on, that's the one. And kick it out, right?

1:02:21Phil Tufnell: I've been down at Sidmouth this week. I've been down at Devon for the week. Sidmouth Cricket Club. Yeah. You know Sidmouth Cricket Club? It's fantastic right by the sea. Coldwell? No, Devon.

1:02:32David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Oh, oh. Not quite as far down.

1:02:33Phil Tufnell: And the croquet alone is right next to the cricket pitch. And from now on, you can't hit sixes because they've been with a mallet like that. The ball's gone over it and this ball's straight on the air. So from now on, you can't play sixes. You know, you can't match a net up. Yeah, it is. There's a net all the way around. You know, unsuspecting sunbathers and the ball flying over. So you can't hit sixes now. I'll keep it on the ground. For touring teams, it's an absolute dream to go and play at Sydney. I played down, I reckon, under 15. Fantastic.

1:03:06David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Absolutely.

1:03:07Phil Tufnell: Right on the beat. Right on the beat.

1:03:08Michael Vaughan: Would Devon First team have played there? Yes. I reckon I played for Essex, yeah.

1:03:11Phil Tufnell: So Bessie's from there. Dominic Bessie's from there. And they have touring teams who go down and they have touring week and they play all week. It's fantastic. Fish and chips are good down there. Good, but... Not as good as Whitby. No, not as good as Whitby. But it's all fresh fish.

1:03:26Michael Vaughan: Is it? You'd hope so. It all comes from Brixham.

1:03:28Phil Tufnell: Cream cheese. Rockfish. Rockfish restaurant. Yeah. That's a posh, isn't it?

1:03:33Michael Vaughan: I've been a rockfish. Were you in there? I was in there. Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair. OK, a community question now from our competition partner, Impulse Decisions. Yeah. This is a good one. If you won four tickets to Edgbaston, who are the three people you're taking? I'll start. You three. Day out. You three. Day out on the gas.

1:03:59Phil Tufnell: I thought we were supposed to be having a day out in Manchester as well.

1:04:01Michael Vaughan: Well, you're recognising that.

1:04:03Phil Tufnell: Yeah, but we're not in Manchester till the 7th of September. Oh, what, about September the 6th, then? Yeah, well, put that in your diary pencil.

1:04:11Michael Vaughan: Right.

1:04:11Phil Tufnell: Right, who are we taking? Three. I'll take you three.

1:04:13Michael Vaughan: I've got self. Go on. Dead or Alive. Yeah, go on. Yeah, George Best. Right. Oliver Reed. I know where you're going with this. And Jesus Christ. Because then you'd never run out of wine.

1:04:31Phil Tufnell: Stevie Nicks Stevie Nicks Keith Richards Stones Mick Burton He drives a tractor up near that Good lad is Mick

1:04:49Michael Vaughan: He'll be a nail, won't he? Thiexton's What would he do in a day? what's it giving I was in Portugal last week with these young kids a kid called Maxi Garber and his mate Rocco honestly I've never seen anything like it 16 pints oh good lads 16 pints what big ones or small ones no they're small ones what over there they get it no heavy leg Rocco went there last year with the lads and he fell asleep do you know Quintalaga those roundabouts was it Superboc or Sagres no he slept on the roundabout last year Superboc Superboc's lovely I love Superboc

1:05:21David 'Bumble' Lloyd: who you take I'm just going to take my little little Jack Jack Elson he's your favourite isn't he he's your favourite

1:05:28Michael Vaughan: let's be honest he's your favourite child he is he is he's just him and Jack all you ever heard is Jack I took Jack and the girls the Jack and the girls

1:05:39David 'Bumble' Lloyd: came to cricket and we had a great day Jack bowled on the first team square I've seen his action good action he got to go on the first team square as well you've got two others and Isabel and Elson can come as well well he's had to say that now I'll take the three children

1:05:53Michael Vaughan: Right Geoffrey, he'll be up there Oh, he's coming on soon Again Is he back?

1:05:58Phil Tufnell: By popular demand

1:05:59Michael Vaughan: By popular demand He's back Is he? We're going to Headingley Are we? Oh yeah, we're doing it We're going to Headingley And we've got Sir Geoffrey Good lad We're going to camp Do you know how we're campaigning next year To bring Ben back? Yeah We're going to campaign at Headingley To get something named after Geoffrey Has he got nothing? Nothing You're joking Nothing He might have a hotel room But nothing Dickie Bird's got the clock Yeah

1:06:22Phil Tufnell: A Dickie Ticker.

1:06:23Michael Vaughan: Yeah. Truman's got, Fred's got something now. I think close him out. What? I've got nothing. Go on, give us a Fred. Go on. Well, I've never seen a note like it.

1:06:36Phil Tufnell: There's note about Geoffrey, and I'm not bothered about that neither. Because there's note about me. And I look quick as bold as I've ever seen how I fucking like you.

1:06:48Michael Vaughan: This is a good one. what went wrong for the London Spirit in the 100 that's from Mo Bobat

1:06:57David 'Bumble' Lloyd: that's to you Alistair well they didn't play very well they spent a lot of money on one player who didn't James Coles 400 ground and batted at 6 and bowled the odd over do you think Mo Bobat got it wrong Alistair I think well we always say the results business isn't it but they obviously didn't whether they were let down by the players or they picked the wrong team

1:07:18Phil Tufnell: Does Moe Boabat need to go?

1:07:20David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I'm going to give him... Has he come to that stage? He's one too high-cold. I'm giving him another year's grace for the spirit. One more year in the 100. He's earned it. He's earned it.

1:07:30Michael Vaughan: He doesn't know how to operate with 20 less balls. Does Moe Boabat need to go, yes or no?

1:07:36Phil Tufnell: A little better ask Fred.

1:07:39Michael Vaughan: Right, who is your... I think they'll be all right next year. I think they'll get the hang of it. Too late. But why are you saying that? Well, because... What is in your mind is... Because I saw glimpses. What were the glimpses? What did you see?

1:07:54David 'Bumble' Lloyd: But it does change so quickly.

1:07:55Michael Vaughan: I think Nords is tricky. I think you've got to know your home territory. I think they do have to get on there. Yeah. Who did we say?

1:08:02David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Who did we say? I thought the Spirit were going to win it. Yeah, I did. I think we all did, didn't we? Yeah, we all said. Apart from you, who did you say? He said the Super Giants.

1:08:07Phil Tufnell: Yeah. Super Giants.

1:08:09Michael Vaughan: Exactly.

1:08:09David 'Bumble' Lloyd: So I'm right on the IPL, you're right on the 100. And we've got the championship, haven't we? New CEO at Lanks, by the way. Yes. Middle section final.

1:08:15Michael Vaughan: I've started speaking northern there. Middle section final.

1:08:18Phil Tufnell: The new chief executive at Lanks has come from Everton Football Club and Nottinghamshire County Cricket Club. What's that? I've just said, the new chief executive at Lancashire, he's come from Everton and went to Nottinghamshire. Yes. Good club, Nottinghamshire. Very good club. And now he's come to Lanks. Good appointment then. Richard Kenyon, very good appointment. Yeah. Yeah. Good to see. It's a cricket club. It's a cricket club. Lads, where did you all watch the Eclipse from?

1:08:48Michael Vaughan: Did you get the glasses on? Yeah. I thought it was shite to me. I've seen one before. I've seen one before. Did you watch it? I did watch it.

1:08:57David 'Bumble' Lloyd: Honestly, put the glasses on. I was like, is that good? Did you see the... I was disappointed it wasn't dark, dark. Did you hear Brodie's one? Don't worry, it's coming later at 2050. He thought it was at 10 to 9 in the next one. That's year 2050. No. what a clown on the sky he never

1:09:16Phil Tufnell: he did I was I was I was I was in the fountain pub in Wimple Devon where yeah we had a we had a Kellogg's crunchy box made out into the glasses where you put a piece of paper at the other side tin foil and you look at it through that fabulous you've done that aye yeah

1:09:39David 'Bumble' Lloyd: I think he would have done that no a Kellogg's I just... Were you a bit let down by it, though? I thought it was going to be darker. I've seen it before.

1:09:48Michael Vaughan: What, in the 90s? Yeah. It was the last one. There's a picture of us all looking up. I was there. I've seen it before. A Kellogg's Crunchy Box works perfectly. What's a Kellogg's Crunchy? Like cornflakes.

1:10:00Phil Tufnell: Well, they're cornflakes.

1:10:01Michael Vaughan: They're not crunchies.

1:10:02Phil Tufnell: Yeah. Crunchy nut.

1:10:04Michael Vaughan: Crunchy nuts.

1:10:05Phil Tufnell: Crunchy nut. Oh, Crunchy Nut Cornflakes. Yeah. Oh, right, Kellogg's Crunchy Nut. So we had one of them. He cut a little eye thing out, some silver paper, and a piece of paper at the other end of it. You look through that, it was vivid, it was marvellous.

1:10:16Michael Vaughan: You know when someone rings your house, do you pick up a baked bean tin with a bit of string on it?

1:10:25Michael Vaughan: Hello? Hello? Hello? Right, who was the biggest celebrity you spotted at 100 game? Oh, well, I went round there. And Tom Dubeck? No, yeah, we saw Anton. I went into the celebrity box, great lady. Oh, I've forgotten her name. Oh, she was such a massive name. No, no, she was the one who, in The Greatest Showman, sung the song, the bearded lady, you know. The bearded lady?

1:10:59Phil Tufnell: Yes. She was in the box?

1:11:01Michael Vaughan: Yes, she was. But she's not the bearded lady. You obviously put a beard on her. Right. You know what I mean? What's her name? Geatra or something? Keela Settle. Yes, Keela Settle. There you go. We'll do that again. Hold on. Oh, well, the lady.

1:11:14David 'Bumble' Lloyd: We can't edit it.

1:11:16Michael Vaughan: I'm going to see that's not edited out. Yes, Keela Settle. Oh, yeah, massive. What a great song. Oh, what a celebrity, yeah. Yeah, great song. She's got a beard. No, but I think she played, you know, the bearded lady. All right. Right, so that's the biggest celebrity that you saw. Alistair, who was your biggest celebrity? I didn't spot any celebrities. No.

1:11:36David 'Bumble' Lloyd: The only thing that was interesting wasn't Charlie Dean... David Seaman? Wasn't Charlie Dean in the... She's a spirit cat, isn't she? She was then dressed in the Trent Rockets kit to watch the final, which I thought was a bit...

1:11:48Michael Vaughan: Was she? I'd never put a title. That must have been a bet. It must have been a bet. You'd never put a Watford shirt on, would you? Good God, no. Jude Bellingham. Oh, of course. Jude was there. But we weren't there. Yeah, I love Jude. I wasn't there for that. Edge Bastard saw him on the telly. Hey, Jude. They played pig in the circle. He looks a top lad. Yeah. I like Jude.

1:12:08Phil Tufnell: Yeah, I like that. I don't know. I've never been invited. Nobody ever asked me to go to any of these. Bollocks, isn't it? I mean, it's nonsense.

1:12:20Michael Vaughan: It's just got the violin on you there.

1:12:23Phil Tufnell: I've been invited to Headingley to the third day of the Test match by Yorkshire. My mum's there. Lovely. Sit next to her. I will. I will be round about.

1:12:30Michael Vaughan: Don't give her too much wine. You're close to Freddie. he used to be to be more than us last one what will Andrew Flintoff's next job be he's doing the thunder but his quote on Instagram suggested that coaching will go further and beyond the thunder where do you reckon it'll go England I reckon it'll be the England coach eventually eventually I'd like to see you what about Chennai Super Kings they need a coach well who's well he's

1:12:59Phil Tufnell: he's cutting his teeth he's been with the Lions moving into BBL

1:13:02Michael Vaughan: I think he's a PSL Is there a PSL? Pakistan? PSL 1. Down the line. It's a good franchise to get older. Great or half. Down the line, he'll be an England coach. Yeah. England coach. Well, Ben Stokes wants that as well. Yeah. Well. Well, they all want him now, innit? Because, you know, at the end of the day... At the end of the day, you know, you just... Pays well, doesn't it? and you don't have to do all the running about about 45 in your back room absolutely just sit there and go come on lads pat everyone on the back pump the tyres up

1:13:42Phil Tufnell: that's always interesting when you get a new coach comes in what's his back room staff who's he picking you know you just mentioned that name we'll see that'd be a good bit

1:13:51Michael Vaughan: I like Mike my guess is Tim Southie will stay around I think Troy Cooley will do a bit more work with the bowlers I think he's doing a good job behind the scenes. Yeah. And they just need to tinker a little bit more. So maybe Michael Hussey will come in.

1:14:06Phil Tufnell: Do you think he'll bring a fielding coach?

1:14:08Michael Vaughan: I think Tress will be around, isn't he? Do you think he'll bring a specialist, catcher, fielding?

1:14:13Phil Tufnell: Well, Sarah Tate, didn't she? Sarah Tate.

1:14:15Michael Vaughan: Sarah was with the Super Giants that won yesterday, so she's doing a great job. She's in the backroom.

1:14:20Phil Tufnell: Oh, yeah, she's part of that. I mentioned Sarah. Well, she's wicket-keeping coach, isn't she? Well, she's catching, fielding coach, yeah. Okay.

1:14:27Michael Vaughan: Doing a great job. that's it lads well done

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