Sam Billings: IPL Glory, Watching Man United with MS Dhoni & Kohli Battles | Stick to Cricket EP 37

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2:09Michael Vaughan: Get in your band this week. Oh, no, Bumblebee.

2:15Michael Vaughan: Fucking hell. No, no, no. Hold him. Do you have a little review? Can you review your bowl? You're off, stumps out. Bill, you're in. I'm in. Last one, last one, Dave. Oh! Oh! Oh! Fucking hell. Anywhere. Anywhere. You could have hit you anywhere, Bob. Can you believe it? First Corridor Cricket Wicket. It's the first time I've ever caught one. Right, come on now. We're going to be T20 now. T20, come on. Taffas, where's your little Bashir shot then? Are we T20? I will do. I'll go Yorker. Yorker. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! That's unbelievable! Are we going in? Going in. I nearly ran myself out of the roof.

3:13Michael Vaughan: Oh, I've done a z-pipe. Straight! That's a great form. Oh, he's playing nice to the cat. There's no way you hit that. That Tai Chi walking. Heel to toe, heel to toe. Court and ball, phone, Bumble. You've got a ball. You'll never hit us.

3:30Phil Tufnell: I like John Cleese there.

3:32Michael Vaughan: This is an administrative of funny walks. Is this another fad, one of your fads? It's good for your joints, look at Dave now. He's off, he's off. Look at that, oh, not there, that. My mum runs a Tai Chi class. Does she? Yeah, Wickham Bishops. She's in charge of the Tai Chi class. I don't know if it was once or twice a week, 50 people they've got. Really? All doing the old... I don't know. I don't know what it is. Good for your joints. Is it? Keep your mind. Yeah. Is it like paddle, like old people's sport?

4:02Phil Tufnell: Paddle? It's true though, isn't it? Paddle's not for old people. I mean, is your mother qualified? Is she...? To be honest, I don't know. I'm going to say yes. Where have you got that? Looking smart today, Boombly. Off the rack. Is it? Is it? Nice. Irony. Irony. It's an irony. Looking good, mate. It's going home. That's nice. Coming home with me. Going home. It's pretty nice, that. Good for the spring. Yeah, spring jacket, that. Flowers are all just coming through. Duffs are out already, don't they? Are they?

4:35Michael Vaughan: Yeah, lovely. Have you got a gift for Sammy Billings? No. Perhaps he might need a new car. He's had his car, Nick. He's had his car. Carnict. I was saying to Dave, how do you get your carnict when you drive three miles long? Well, there you go. He's a posh chap in here. Here we go. We've got a tough as mail bag. Oh, go on. That's a mail. I've had mail? Dear Mr Tufnall. It's not in a brown envelope, is it? Sure, it's front. Not another speeding fight. It's very polite. Dear Mr Tufnall. Yes, sir. This summer I'd like to start playing cricket. Yes, lovely. Can you start by showing me the basics of batting?

5:14Michael Vaughan: What shots did you use most in your career and which ones do I need to learn? What is your best tip for overcoming the nerves of waiting to bat? Whoa, crikey. Your excellent demos on stick to cricket have... This can't be right. Your excellent demos on stick to cricket have inspired me to start playing. I've inspired someone with the bats. Who's this from? From Kieran in Liverpool.

5:42Michael Vaughan: Well, Mike, you've always told me you've got to start with a solid defence. You've got to start with a solid defence. I know it's a bit boring in this day and HT20s and everything. We've just had the World Cup. But you've got to start off with a solid forward D, which is... Well, no, you've got to take your guard first. Sorry, I've moved on there.

6:00Phil Tufnell: What did they used to do? That's it.

6:02Michael Vaughan: As if you're picking up an axe. That's it. As if you're picking up an axe. That's it. and then your Vs are going down the splice, aren't they? That's it. That's it. Turn and face the baller with your lead shoulder. That one. That's it. That's it. And then you want a nice back lift. Don't want it out going there, do you? Eyes parallel to the ground. There. No, your eyes. Oh, eyes. Parallel to the ground? Yeah. Well, you've got to get down here. You don't want to be like that. You want to be like that. Yeah, nice head position. Nice head. Both eyes, isn't it? That's it. I always went middle stump.

6:38Michael Vaughan: Yeah. Where did you end up? Out here. I find a taken guard. Can I have fur slip, please? Can I have fur slip? And then by the time you were to come in, that would be my trigger. The reverse Kimban. The reverse trigger. All you boys went that way. I sort of tended to go. But then, no, that's right. So there's your grip. There's your grip. Nice back lift. Nice back lift. Head nice and level. Perhaps just slightly softened at the knee. Don't want to be straight, do you? Hands in towards your body, not out. Yeah, you don't want waggly hands. If you can think of a little box around here.

7:17Phil Tufnell: Pick the bat up to first or second slip.

7:19Michael Vaughan: Oh, OK.

7:22Phil Tufnell: Who's giving this demo?

7:24Michael Vaughan: I need a bit of hand here then. And then, as you said, if it's a full ball, foot towards the pitch of the ball, head over, high elbow. Sniff it out. and caress it through extra cover. Brilliant shot. There you go. Well done, Kieran. I'm glad I've inspired you, young man. Keep it up. Keep going. Yeah, Kieran, good luck with the season. Go on, Eddie. He's also asked, P.S., can you ask Alistair Cupp for some bowling tips? Oh, hello. We just saw on that little clip, Bumble. Yeah. That's no way that you hit him. What, in the corridor out there? No way you hit him. I got bottomed. You know what, mate.

7:59Michael Vaughan: What are some tips to, you know, someone like young Kieran starting out? He's going to play in Liverpool, so I'm guessing the wickets are going to be a little bit... Oh, good pitches. Good pitches down there.

8:08Phil Tufnell: Good pitches. In Liverpool, Liverpool, good pitches. Fingers on the seam. Come on, Sir Eister. No, I don't do a tough as only does that. Fingers on the seam, windmill. That's all I ever teach the kids, isn't it? Yeah. There's your sighter. There's your sighter. That side, look that side. Have a look outside.

8:22Michael Vaughan: Look outside the windmill. Right. Brush your ear. Brush your ear. You go over the top. But the greatest ball that's ever lived, Bumber, doesn't do that.

8:29Phil Tufnell: No, no. Your modifications, you can go, come in chest on if you want. Go there.

8:33Michael Vaughan: He's just starting up. He'll have to find his own way, won't he?

8:35Phil Tufnell: Yeah, yeah.

8:36Michael Vaughan: What about spinning the ball? Don't know. Spin it. Mike. What you do with your spinning the ball, you're entering a room and you're turning the knob on. Windmills, turn the knob. Turn the knob and that's easy. All you do is turn the knob. That's it. And that revolutions create movement of the ball through the air. Correct. And then spin off the pitch and dip. The more revolutions, it dips and then it spins. And every now and again, you'll put revolution on the ball and you think it's going to spin and it doesn't. It's the kind of shiny side and it goes that way. And that's when you look a genius.

9:09Michael Vaughan: Yes, it is. Because it actually goes the opposite to the way that you're actually hoping it goes.

9:12Phil Tufnell: And there's that one, of course. Which one? There's your spinning ball. It's going like that, like that, and then do that. Undercut. The flying saucer. Keep it like that. Yeah. So there, there, there. What does that do, Dave? It's that shiny bit.

9:26Michael Vaughan: How straight do you do that? Liam Dawson style. Liam Dawson does that. Very good, that. Good tips. I think so. I think more Harry any sugar old lad he's done well Harry's done he's done well to keep another show going where is Kieran I'll tell you what Kieran's still not very well

9:42Phil Tufnell: he's not feeling great he didn't look so bloody well when we saw him we'd just seen him now yeah I don't think he ever anyway Harry I don't think he ever looks well

9:52Michael Vaughan: it's the best I've seen

9:54Phil Tufnell: sugar and a spoon Harry

9:56Michael Vaughan: I think you're doing well Harry there you go go on Sam How are you? How are you? How are you? Very well. Sorry, we've just been talking. Sorry, a bit of an event for Morley. You've had your car, Nick? Yeah. Yeah, got it back though. What an ironic... It's actually pretty ironic. That's an Aussie brand, that isn't it? Yeah, it is. But you've had your motor, Nick, you're right. Yeah, good. Talk a sec.

10:25Phil Tufnell: Whereabouts is this? Is this in Kent? No, in London. Oh, right. Oh, right, so the three... Exactly.

10:31Michael Vaughan: It wouldn't happen in God's country. No, it wouldn't happen in Kent. Particularly not at your manor with three miles of driveway. You're talking about his? No deflecting, you know. No, no, no. So what happened, Sam? Sorry to hear that. No, it's right. We got it back, though, so it was good. What, all trashed? A little bit, but it's fine. What a set-up this is. Oh, come on.

10:52Phil Tufnell: Yeah, lovely. That's fantastic. How you been, mate? Very well, thank you. Are you a Kentish man or a man of Kent? That's a bit harsh.

11:02I get them confused. The north one is Kentish Man, I think. Have I got that right? I don't know. What's Key? What's Rob? He's north, like me. What's the difference? There is a big difference.

11:16Phil Tufnell: You're either a man of Kent or a Kentish Man. Oh, OK. Who is he used to be on about? Fleming? Medway. Jazza. Jazza. I saw him the other day. Did you see him? Yeah, he's very well. Is he still very red?

11:28Michael Vaughan: God, he used to whack it, didn't he? He was beyond his time. He was the start. He would have been good in the 100. Jazza. Some good stories about him. Really? He was great.

11:38Phil Tufnell: He's the one. Great lad. He's the one. Jazza when... Taps the ground, doesn't he? He's always tapping the ground. But, you know, you're going to change the team. Somebody's got to say, look, you're not playing, mate. That's it. So I went to Jazza. I said, you're doing brilliant. I don't know what we'd do without you, but we're going to try today.

12:00Michael Vaughan: He was in the Dakar team that won with Holyoke, wasn't he? And Dougie Brown. Sharjah. Sharjah. Sharjah. That was the first white ball trophy we've won. Yeah, it was, yeah. It was Sharjah, wasn't it? Yeah, it was, yeah. Smokey was captain. December 8th. It was Smokey captain. It was Smokey captain. Dougie Brown. He's certainly... I shouldn't say this, but Smokey. Vince played, yeah. I think he did.

12:22Phil Tufnell: Which, you know, he won't mind this. Smokey won't mind this. So we've won the competition. They were staying at the hotel, so we've celebrated nicely. Yeah. He's on that first balcony in the hotel. This is proper smoky. I don't know what he's like now. He's probably changed a bit. He's kink coach. I know. This massive plant pot that, you know, he was strong. He picked this up and got, boom, and dropped it. At the balcony. You've never heard anything like that. There was soil and all sorts, flying, people running all over the place. He's killing himself laughing. The same trip that Jazza, who we'd just been talking about, and Mark Elam...

13:03Phil Tufnell: Healy would have been there. They were pals. They were pals. And Jazza's on a lilo. Time out. Jazza's on a lilo and he's reading a book. And Mark Elam picks him up on the lilo, on his thing, and wheeled him into the swimming pool as it's going down. And he's still sat there with his book and went under. So everybody had a laugh, thought it were funny. He's going to get his own back. And you know your number ones. You know you've got your nice chinos and your blazer. David Graveney said, like, there's this thing we're going to, governors or whatever, wear your number ones. Jazza has gone into Mark Eelam's room, got his trousers, took them to a seamstress and took them up a foot and a half.

13:49Phil Tufnell: They're just below his knee with a turn up. He went absolutely itchy. Bermuda Shultz? Yeah. What book was he reading? I don't know what book he read. Well, no, because it wasn't his granddad. Yeah. Yeah. 00 Fleming. 00 Fleming. No, what were he called? 007. Ian Bond. No, James Bond. Jesus. Ian Fleming. Ian Bond. Wasn't that coffee? Shane Bond. Shane Bond.

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14:28we had Rayna we had Shane Watson Fafdi Plusy Jadasia we had an incredible team and Dhoni wherever he went it was just thousands of people you know what's I grew down you we just need to get him on the show I mean statistically bar cricket awesome no that was a new brand.

14:49Michael Vaughan: I'm in. Virat, I remember I was walking off that way and Virat was at mid-wicket I think and he did a massive loop just a scream in my face and I was like why are you wasting your time with me? Plagiarism.

15:03Phil Tufnell: Plagiarism. It's not plagiarism. I didn't know you were on sort of. The disparity is just way too much. So your prize money, your incentive is right up there. I'd have 20 million, but I'd compromise and say 12 million, 15 million.

15:24Michael Vaughan: This episode of Stick to Cricket is brought to you by South African Tourism. Mike, you made your test debut in Joburg, didn't you? I did, 99, yeah. We were two for two. And I was at the non-strikers then. Before I faced the ball, we were two for four. Yeah, that's right, that's right. I can remember Pollock and Donald. Pollock and Donald seeming it and swinging it round corners and everyone's scrabbling around in the dressing room. Great memories of South Africa. Huge support. Oh yeah, absolutely. Huge support. It's a great place to travel to. Yeah, it is. Wine. We didn't last very long so they were at the vineyards and on the golf courses too early, as we were by the way.

16:00Michael Vaughan: Well, absolutely. I can remember us going to Stellenbosch. Oh, what a place. Well, there's all the animals there. Yeah, the wine, the food. Used to go down to Camps Bay. Blues. Blues. Seafood platter grown in 16 pounds. Never seen so many fishes on a plate. No, lobsters and crabs and everything. And as you say, perhaps a little bit of white wine. Yes, what about the golf? Golf was great. It really is, it's the ultimate trip. You've got the golf, you've got the wine, you've got the seafood, you've got the safari. By the way, there's a bit of cricket too. Yeah, just on top. Whether you're there for the bounce at Centurion or the views from Table Mountain, South Africa delivers every single time.

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19:32Phil Tufnell: at school together.

19:37Michael Vaughan: He needs to come on. He needs to come on. Get Jezer on. He'll be good, buddy. Sam, thanks for joining the Madhouse. Sorry about the car. The IPL. Oh, yeah. We're going to talk franchise cricket. You know, all these different leagues around the world. You've played in every one, I think. Pretty much. Every team. Is that right? It's the one that you haven't played in. South Africa. It's the only one. All right, so the SA20 is the one that you haven't, but you've played in pretty much. Do you know how many teams you've played for? I actually went through the list on the train on the way up and it says 30 on my Crick Info profile.

20:0930? Yeah, well, exactly. But I've gone through it. It's about 24. Can you name them all?

20:15Michael Vaughan: No. No? Most of them. We did a show last week. We were trying to name the 100 teams and we couldn't name them. The new names. The new names. The new names, yeah. The last year's ones we could get through. But the franchise model and the IPL starts, I think it's March the 28th this year. I mean, you've not just been a franchise cricket, you've played for Cain, you've played for England, but it's a completely different era that we're in for particularly cricketers these days. Yeah, it is. And incredible opportunity for everyone involved. And someone said to me the other day, oh, well, it would be great if you were starting your career now.

20:53But the way to look at it is that we are incredibly lucky to have the last 10 years. has moved so rapidly. And I think every generation is going to benefit more and more from those opportunities. But you see, I think the greatest example, actually, that we've got is Jacob Bethel. The pressure that he's been under, obviously, in the IPL has fast forward or fast tracked his progression so rapidly. I know everyone goes on about it and says, yeah, the IPL, it does improve cricketers really rapidly. but that is a case in point. How many games has he actually played up here? Not many. I'm not having him as a...

21:35Michael Vaughan: He has been in the dressing room with Andy Flower as a coach, Virat Kohler, watching him train every single day. So you're clearly going to have a huge benefit. It's more the noise, the external pressure. As soon as you turn up there, I mean, you guys know far better than I do, when you go there as an England team, it is a different type of pressure compared to when you are playing as one of their players for their city essentially. So I think that progression and that when you're exposed to big crowds and the hundreds done exactly that for us in this country. Younger players are playing in front of 25 ,000 people every week as opposed to Chelmsford or Canterbury as much as we love them.

22:17It's hard playing at Chelmsford on Friday night. Well, you've never been in the away team. It's a lot harder. But, yeah, it's...

22:24Michael Vaughan: It's not just crowds, though, is it? It's that feeling of... I mean, I can remember when I went to Queensland University as a 16-, 17-year-old, you know what I mean? There is that feeling that you are, you know, you're the bloke we've paid to come in and, you know, do something here for us, you know what I mean? That's the pressure. Big crowds, we've all played. Queensland Uni paid you. Yes, yes. Did they? Well, they gave me a few board and lodgings, board and lodgings and a few beers down the rows, you know. But, yeah, there's that sort of expectancy, isn't there, that you've got to perform, haven't you?

22:56Michael Vaughan: There's no sort of, like, messing about. Oh, yeah, you're an asset. Yeah, absolutely. You either appreciate or depreciate. And your value, obviously, as a player, you know, I'm very aware that my value isn't probably as high as it would be as a 24-, 25-year-old. It does fluctuate and you can't attach your cricketing identity to that value because it does change. but that's where I think people probably struggle is all of a sudden, you know, this is the player I am. You go through a bad run of form and in the franchise world, they don't care. You're there to score, you're there to do a job, you're there to win games for the team and win a championship.

23:36Michael Vaughan: Yeah, just on that, I mean, you've been in the IPL and that's the biggest league of them all. Can you feel that? So it's like your own share price, isn't it? You know, you go out and do well that day, your share price rockets up the next game you do averagely it goes oh yeah big time what's it like around the owners around the time that you're obviously doing well I can imagine they're all over you and then you have a couple of bad games it's like first English player to win the IPL CSK when was that? it was Chennai yeah so we were very lucky Dave Willey and I Mark Wood started the tournament and then went home but that environment and perfect example the owners you know completely trust Stephen Fleming and obviously Dhoni and it's their team they run it I think you're on a WhatsApp group Dhoni we just need get him on the show can't go get a link we need him and he got his number I don't think he has a phone genuinely I don't think he has a phone in the off season he goes and jumps out of aeroplanes with the special forces so he's not on any of your WhatsApp groups or your 28 teams you've played 28 In India for the T20 World Cup, Dhoni was obviously travelling around.

24:50Michael Vaughan: He was at a few games. Apparently he's got the, I think he's got the biggest honour in India. Oh no, Satin's got the biggest honour, whatever that honour is. And then Dhoni's underneath that, but he has security like a prime minister. So wherever he travels, he's got like a real army of security around India wherever he travels. That was the most amazing thing is seeing how he, we had Rayner, we had Shane Watson, Faf Duplassie, Jadasia. We had an incredible team, all of these superstars. And Dhoni, wherever he went, it was just thousands of people. He had a cordon off in the airport on his own.

25:34Yeah, that really kind of opened my eyes to what it's like to be an Indian cricketer and play cricket out there. So the best tournament by a mile, of course.

25:44Michael Vaughan: Why is that? Because of the crowds and the kind of exposure? I think everyone... And obviously a bit of money. I went for free my first year. You didn't get paid? No, because I had to pay back Kent compensation for the contract. Does this still happen? No, no. For guys who aren't contracted by the ECB, I had to pay back my Kent contract. Was that when you were at Delhi? At Delhi, yeah. Do you know the four, well, three young chaps that were in the same team as you? All wicket keepers. Pretty good. Yeah? Yeah, I'm definitely bottom of that list. Quinny De Cock, Sanju Sampson. Yeah, decent. C20, obviously, man of the tournament.

26:27Michael Vaughan: Rishabh, as an 18-year-old. Yeah. Oh, he was a character. Been around some superstars, you, haven't you? He's a character. Yeah, I remember vividly the practice game we had at Delhi. We had Rabada, Cummins and Nathan Courtenay as well. So it was some decent pace. And I'm keeping Wicket in this practice game. Dravid was coach. Keeping and Rishabh just starts obliterating everywhere in the practice game. 70 off 30. I go, who is this kid? Like, small, pretty tubby, genius, over extra cover, square leg, everywhere. And he goes, oh, yeah, this is Rishabh. Pretty raw, but he'll be all right. Then Sandhu came in.

27:08And then Shreyas Aya came in and you're just thinking, like, if you compare what they're exposed to at that young age, look at the young 15, 16-year-old, compared to what we are at home, it's just probably a completely different mindset in how they develop. And they have to be robust. They have to go in there and have a huge amount of self-confidence purely to survive as well.

27:31Michael Vaughan: Because there's so much competition. Yeah, can't get in the team. The couple of blokes you mentioned there can't even get in the team. Sam, Harsha Bogley on the show a few weeks ago, he mentioned the hunger in India. Saw that, yeah. Yeah, they basically, you know, Yassi Sweet Jai's voice come from absolutely nothing. The hunger that they have, whether he's right or wrong, he pointed the finger that maybe in the UK we don't have that same hunger. Would you think that's fair? I think it's just different contexts. I mean, statistically, bar cricket, you know... Bar cricket? No. You thought that was a new brand?

28:07Michael Vaughan: I'm in. We're onto something. I'll invest in that. Sorry, carry on. You look at New Zealand or Australia, for example, they produce top quality international athletes in all sports and that's not down to hunger, that's down to culture around sport. Cricket, I think it's very easy to say that hunger with cricket, but you look at the other sports, they don't necessarily perform on the world stage. So I think it's easy to say, and in some cases I think that is correct, but we've got the same here as well. You know, guys just because they've had... The guy sat next to me on the right, you know, you're telling me he lacked hunger to score runs, had an incredible...

28:55was incredibly lucky in terms of the education, but I think it comes in different forms and it's very dangerous just to say hunger is down to the upbringing. It definitely has an effect in some cases, but to generalise, I think that's very dangerous because I think he's the perfect example that every time he went out to bat, you knew that he was going to put a price on his wicket more than anyone.

29:16Phil Tufnell: Do you think there's too much of a structure in the UK, that there's a pathway and an academy and you serve your time before you get into a county side and younger players are maybe just held back a little bit? But if you didn't have an academy, you're saying, what are you doing? Why haven't you got an academy? Well, I'm just thinking about these young players that you're mentioning. Have they come through a pathway? All the young boys who you were playing with, Rishabh Bant at 16, 17 years of age, have they come through a structured pathway or have they just been found? Rishabh, I think, was found, but he grew up in a town or small village outside of Delhi and used to get the train early in the morning, sleep on a park bench, just go to train all day and then come back.

30:02Well, Phil used to sleep on a pot.

30:04Michael Vaughan: I was going to say Harry Brook.

30:09Michael Vaughan: Another comment of that. Another comment of that. Sorry. Sorry, Harry. Another comment of that is, well, first of all, do you enjoy it? But then, as you say, you play for a Ken all your life, haven't you? There's that sort of feeling. But then you're off one day playing for this one. How do you sort of strike up, you know, conversations with your teammates and coaches and, you know, put the shirt on and things like that? That's the key part is any team you play for, you want a sense of belonging and you want a sense of being involved and committing to something, whether it's a month or two months.

30:48So as a teammate, I think it's your duty to do that wherever you play in the world and try and immerse yourself in whatever culture you play in, whatever team you play in. But you're spot on. When I go back to play for Kent and a few Kent members have a bit of a thing to say of he's off there and everywhere. But that is the most, it's a different type of feeling. That is my boyhood club. I care about that club more than anything. And playing for Kent does mean something different. But, yeah, at the end of the day, those opportunities, you're not going to turn those opportunities down to play all over the world.

31:29Michael Vaughan: So does that then ring true, then, that most of the sides in these franchises, if you can get that feeling, does that go a long way to results at the end of it? Yeah, 100%. I think that's the bit. Everyone's so caught up on data and signing the best players. Building a team, any successful team, you don't want 11 superstars. That's not how a successful team works. People get caught up on signing individuals. I think you need a balance in terms of every team you play in, but creating that environment where the four or five guys on the bench will do everything they can to then make those guys better who are playing but are bought in.

32:13How hard is it? Sorry. How hard is it in franchise cricket not to just bat for yourself or play for yourself? Because the franchise treat you like that. How hard is it not to treat the franchise? You'd be ex-ball, surely. Pardon? You'd be ex-balls. Are you? You are. I think players do get a reputation. You can see through it, can't you? I don't know. Can you? I think so, personally. You know when someone's got the capability to be able to, with the bat especially, to be able to accelerate and they choose not to. And I've batted with guys where, you know, they're waiting for me to make the play.

32:50You know, for me to be the aggressor and they'll just sit in and get a score. And ultimately, you know, I'm not the best player ever to play the game, but that's one thing that whenever I do finish playing, I hope my teammates just go, you know what, he played every single time for the team. And that's probably hampered my own results. at times, but I think I'd rather be remembered like that as opposed to...

33:17Michael Vaughan: Sam, do you know when... So there's so many auctions now. I know we've had the 100 auction. Oh, yeah. That'll be gone. So you kind of... Cut. So when... I think most people, when they're looking at auctions, they think it's all data and about information of that individual player, which is very important, strike rates and all the different variations require. how much is put on the emphasis of the character of the personality rather than just the numbers that they deliver? Because you mentioned the team. The team is the most important aspect of making sure you've got the right characters in the group.

33:50Michael Vaughan: You've got the right characters, you'll create that kind of culture of togetherness. You're more than likely to have more success. You look at CSK over the years. I always look at CSK and go, look, they've got some great players, but they never seem to pick the best players. They kind of go, that personality, that player fits into our model. Is that right? Spot on. Absolutely. All the environments that have had consistent success over a long period of time, especially in the franchise world, let's be honest, every franchise has every resource available to them. But the ones who do it have a consistent approach, get the right kind of players.

34:27And the coaching staff and the structure behind the scenes value that. Like Tom Moody, for example, who's obviously now at Manchester, who I've had the pleasure of working with over the last five years. He's been up there as one of the best I've dealt with because of that exact thing, building the environment, looking after the guys who aren't playing. But, you know, our 100 team that we had at the Oval.

34:50Michael Vaughan: Yes. How many of those guys would you go, they're dead cert in the England team prior to this World Cup? World Jacks has had a brilliant tournament. But actually, you look down the list and it's all guys who are fighting to get into that England team. Sorry. Only three, I think. Still a pretty good player, Sam Curran. Yeah. Will Jax. You know what I mean, though? They're not dead sets. They're not Harry Brooke. They're not Joss Butler. They're always, they've been pushing for that England spot for the last couple of years, especially Jordan Cox has been one of the best players in the 100. So as a team, we had a really hungry team and everyone was pulling together.

35:35Phil Tufnell: Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair. Getting back to character in a team, can you have a dickhead in a team, which Australia, they say, no dickheads. Can you have a dickhead in a team who's a genius? New Zealand. New Zealand, bit of a difference. New Zealand, yeah. Can you have a dickhead who's a genius? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I think so too. I'm not worried about the character. If he's a bit of a dickhead, but he's a genius. I'll have too many of them, though. No, no, no, no, no.

36:03Michael Vaughan: No. I can't remember. Look, Laurie McMenemy said to me... What? What? Southampton manager? How have we got Laurie into the show? Laurie McMenemy. Oh, was that a gold day or something? Laurie McMenemy said to me, he said, you've got to have a couple of lead violinists, a couple of violinists, you know, and a couple of, you know... Violinists. And a couple of triangles, you know what I mean? Some of the tambourines. You've got to have the whole blend. The glue players. Yeah, you've got to have that whole blend. Yeah, I see.

36:34Phil Tufnell: What's your view on county cricket now? How long have we got? He's a young cricket player. He's come through franchise. He's played captain. He's still young. He's captain invincible at the Invincible. Let's rephrase that. Would you change county cricket? No. Well, I would change elements of it. We play too much cricket, so something has to give to open up. if we all agree that the 100 has been a success, which is obviously debatable. It has. Well, I think it is. I think it is. It's a fact. Is it going to... I mean, it's 100. We're the only country in the world that plays it. Are we going to change it to T20?

37:21Michael Vaughan: That's a good debate. In the future, will it become T20? Anyway, let's get back to T20 cricket. But I would... Ultimately, everyone looks at every system and wants that system, this system, to implement into our country. If we had eight state teams like Australia do, which is the most isolated country in the world in terms of cities, they need that system. It works there. But if you were to put that here, I don't necessarily think that would work. As we said earlier, around being able to develop players who are, you know, if a player from Devon can't go to Somerset, where's their nearest place?

37:57Is it Hampshire? Four hours away or something? So I think from a development point of view, the tiered system is something that's incredibly important and promotion and relegation and jeopardy is something through English sport. Every single sport has it and I think that's really important. So it still allows the smaller clubs to be able to progress and move forward and still have earned the right to move to the top. But certainly from a young player, the development we all had with the system, I think it provided a huge amount of opportunity. But the key thing I think that needs to happen is that connection between the England team and the progression of how you get there.

38:41Michael Vaughan: Yes, we were talking about that. That needs to be rebuilt because I think it's two separate things. And certainly I was a player who was not contracted by the ECB, but it definitely felt like that group of players was slightly on the outside, even though we were in every squad and we were two separate groups of players essentially playing in that England squad. So building that connection and how you can build people into it and maintain that ambition playing for England, I think that's the most important thing. Sam, I said that on last week's show. I think it's so important for Baz and Rob Key, if they are to carry on, and I'm sure they will, is to go around the county game and explain to all the players within the game, not just the 25 or 30 that have played for England so far, but everyone in the game.

39:27Michael Vaughan: And maybe get all the academy players in as well to let them know the blueprint of what they expect in all their teams and all their roles that they need for all the players within the teams, what they expect from the players and the coaches. So everyone in the English game goes, OK. At the minute, it's a little bit like it's a little bubble over here. It's disjointed. And we're kind of guessing what goes on behind closed doors. We're all guessing because none of us are in the dressing room So I think it's that this combination, which is a different combination to what we've ever had before, it's a little bit more radical, which is fine, but I think it's worth them and I think it'd be good for them to go and explain exactly what they're doing so then everyone understands.

40:04Phil Tufnell: Vormy, can I just put to Sam, give me two minutes, the blue paint that I keep throwing out there. We've just got 550 million into the game. More than that, isn't it? Well, if that's the figure, 550, and you take 20 million out of that, 530 million, that's a weight. Weight's a 20 million. I'm coming to it. So you play early season. The pipe opener is a sudden knockout FA Cup 50 over competition to include minor counties. Three divisions of six, randomly chosen, county cricket to be played in summer. you get three winners and the best semi-finalists. So now you've got four. You've got four. Now you play a semi-final and a final for 20 million.

40:51Phil Tufnell: They're playing for 20 million to win the county championship. Alongside the county championship are these three tiers, is T20 Blast. And the celebration at the end of it all is the 100. 20 million to win the county championship played in summer after the 50 over competition. So that starts just mid-May. Your money's going to run out pretty quick. £20 million is excessive. I think you could even put a million or£500 ,000, I think, you know, if you put it in context to what county players are earning, you know, that's a huge amount. Come back. Sorry. £20 million won't run out because a broadcaster will jump at it.

41:31Phil Tufnell: Your broadcaster will pile it. Your players are going to play. Absolutely. For£20 million, you're going to get a million each. you're going to get a million each to win it.

41:40Michael Vaughan: The one thing I like about it, so in India... I'm on the county championship three times. You wouldn't be sat here, you'd be on the beach. So in India, the Ranji Trophy final was on it and it was big. It was big. You go to the Sheffield Shield final, it's a big event and that's the one thing I think we've got to try and get in the UK. Yeah, a five-day final, not four-day, five-day final. Oh, fine.

42:07Phil Tufnell: So you've got three randomly every year. So you're not playing the same people all the time. And so you've got three winners and the best loser. Will that decrease the standard? First Division is decent. Those top six teams in the First Division are picked. No, they're randomly picked. It's proper cricket. You're randomly picked and your players will be clamouring to play in it. Yeah, I know, but you would be. But then there are those weaker, I'm going to say, ten teams in the Champions League are weak. So actually that standard would drop a little bit. I'm just thinking of an argument. They'd be signing some top players.

42:36You've nicked my idea. I think you commented on my tweet, because I tweeted that. I've been saying it for years. You've always landed his idea! It sounds...

42:45Phil Tufnell: It's my idea! It's my idea! I didn't know he was on social media.

42:49Michael Vaughan: Quick, get on the pattern. Oh, Gary! No, I'm joking. What's that called? That when you nicked people's ideas? Plagiarism. Plagiarism!

42:58Phil Tufnell: It's not plagiarism! I didn't know you were on social media. If we took the 20 minutes... Who presented him with his one-day international cap? You. What did I say to him at the presentation? I've got a great idea. I'll meet your ideas. I've got a great idea. I said to him, I said, here's your cap and well done. Brilliant effort. Just to let you know that I back you to be top scorer today, so don't let me know. That didn't go very well. He didn't really say that. He picked it up for Ed Spass, wasn't he? If you took Bumble's 20 million out, if you took Bumble's 20 million out, would you swap your IPL wins for a county championship?

43:42Michael Vaughan: Oh, that's a good question. Thanks. First one in eight months. A county championship for Kent? For Kent, but you swapped, I'm going to say you played for 24 franchises, let's take out a lot of those franchises, but you swapped a lot of that for that one county championship. So he's got to give back all the money? Well, he didn't need the money, but I'm just like... I don't know, like how... You are, I would say, one of the new players of all the franchises, but you're still kind of that old loyalty back to Kent, just trying to work out, would you swap it? 100%. I don't think it's, you know, not every title, but the question was the IPL title.

44:21Yeah, I mean, from a fulfilment point of view, and we had this chat with a couple of mates the other day, the longer format of the game shows character, doesn't it? you can probably... That can overshadow skill at different points, but it ultimately shows the character of a person in the team over a long period of time, whereas you get away with skill in T20. Like, for three hours... Bloody skillful. You can just outskill people, and it doesn't matter about you as a character. And I think that's the whole point, is it's far more fulfilling the four-day... I only played kind of two and a half tests, but without doubt, that is the most special kind of achievement that I've had.

45:03because of the effort it takes to get to that point. You guys know far better than that. I still class you as that older generation. No, but franchise cricket wasn't when you grew up. It wasn't there. But do you think, you said to a young... You're still in that franchise world, those young 21-year-olds would still think like we would think like that, like you just said how you would think. Or do you think that is changing? It's definitely changing in the approach that if they get an opportunity to go to the IPL they'll go straight away and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing but it depends what you it's so individual I think it completely depends on the individual and quality of player for me obviously I had Joss and Johnny in front of me two of the best England wicket keepers ever so it kind of it was pretty clear to see that my opportunity would be limited.

46:02So I look to get those opportunities elsewhere. Ultimately, that's all you want. You want to play top-level cricket and you want to try and make yourself a better player. And if the opportunity doesn't come knocking, there's plenty of doors to knock on.

46:16Michael Vaughan: Just on that, so Jordan Cox. Yeah. He's been in and around the England team. He certainly got a bit lucky, didn't he, with a couple of injuries. Of course, did he? He's with RCB in the IPL. Yeah. Would you think it would be better for him to stay here to try and get in that test team? Or do you think he's got as good an opportunity of getting in the test team by being at the IPL? Well, with the current way the regime kind of works, you've probably got a better opportunity by going to RCB, being front and centre with Andy Flower. Jordan's an incredible talent. I mean, he's one of the very best young players, hence why we put all our eggs in that basket at Kent.

46:57and he decided obviously to move over the river. But he... He wants massive. He has the potential to play all three formats. But again, it just depends. And this is where it comes back to a previous point around how you look after those players around who aren't actually in the team or in the direct squad. How are you going to keep him wanting to play for England the whole time and not lose interest in that? because if he doesn't get an opportunity, he could easily go and sign with a franchise who would take him all around the world. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but that's the reality.

47:35So how we can keep on incentivising the best young players to stay and play in the Championship. And that's why... 20 million. But the IPL, Pakistan Super League, when that's being played, I personally would play the 50 over competition at the start of the year. Yeah, yeah. Because it's the best way to develop young players. I'm listening to you. But we agree in that it's the best way in terms of injury prevention, bowlers will be able to build up their loads, 10 over spells. Development for younger players, 50 over cricket is the best way in both bowling and batting. And it just eases into the rest of the summer.

48:19And I wouldn't necessarily give 20 million, but I would give a pot of money from the ECB to encourage Indian players to come over and play the championship and maybe play an extra overseas player when the 100's on and play two or three rounds of championship cricket in the 100 to mirror the 100 and you get Indian players along. And then the broadcast, you could combine that.

48:40Michael Vaughan: Because at the minute, Indian players aren't allowed to play and leave outside of the IPL.

48:45Phil Tufnell: Yeah. I mean, you need a dialogue there because it looks as if England and India are getting into bed, certainly through the 100, and so they'll be a lot friendlier to that sort of situation, to have Indian players playing, and Indian players might want to play. The amount of money that county cricket now pays international players to come over and play in 14 championship games, you could play in some of these leagues for two games of 2020 cricket, and you get paid more than a guy playing 10 games of county cricket. I understand that. So the disparity, that's what people don't realise. The disparity is just way too much.

49:24Phil Tufnell: So your prize money, your incentive is right up there. I'd have 20 million, but I'd compromise and say 12 million, 15 million. It's got to be there. You've got to be putting up there.

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52:10Phil Tufnell: Changing the subject. Who's the best franchise player that you've played with? Dhoni. Has to be. I think just in terms of his captaincy, his aura. Tell us about his character. Oh, he's fantastic. In terms of just so incredibly calm. And he is genuinely cool. There's not many cool people. You don't meet many cool people nowadays, do you? Really, apart from you. But he is just, what a lovely guy, considering how much stardom he has and so much of a superstar. Obviously a Man United fan like myself and so we'd watch every Man United game because he can't leave the hotel, he can't go downstairs to the hotel bar and he'd get a load of the lads.

52:56Michael Vaughan: Is it right that he just leaves his hotel room open? Room open, yeah. And he has a little shisha man and he looks after the shisha. His sole job in his entourage is to look after the shisha. What, doesn't he smoke, sir? Yes, you know it. Oh, you know it. Why did he get me one of them? See, you're sorted. What's your role? Bring me a Benson.

53:22Michael Vaughan: Is that right? And it's the same guy that goes, does he get on the plane with you and goes around to all the different games? Yeah, Khalil. Khalil the shisha man. And what a keeper, by the way. You're a keeper. What a keeper. I did that one. Who's that? Donate. Oh, Tony. Hey, listen, your England coach is talking.

53:42Phil Tufnell: We did that. We were in Dubai or somewhere. And we went out into like Bedouin tents.

53:52Phil Tufnell: I've got a picture on my phone. They've got all them pipes and what have you. And they're all led there. In this tent and we were riding camels. We were riding proper camels. I was on a camel with David Grave and his missus. What is going on? I've got pictures on my phone. I've got pictures on the phone. Camel raising orders, camel traffic. Someone like it. I'll tell you what it was. We were having an away day, we were going out in the desert, and it was driving camels, and you know them 4x4s, them big driving... Yeah, yeah. What was Sam? Sam, Sam, were you there?

54:32Michael Vaughan: What year was it? Probably not. Why have we gone to the smokes?

54:34Phil Tufnell: Why have we gone from Khalil the sheesh? He said, why didn't... But I just thought back and I've got it on me floor and I've got a picture in this tent and they've got these pipes. They were big things and you put water in them. Yeah. Hubbly bubbly. Hubbly bubbly. Hubbly bubbly. Different flavours you get, like mint flavours. Double apple. Well, we had an away day. I think the one you had was called a bong.

55:02Michael Vaughan: So, anyway, that's it. That's it, Khalil. Where were we? Where were we? Don't miss the character.

55:11Phil Tufnell: So he's the best player. What about Virat Kohli? Played against him. Played against him. Virat gave me a couple of send-offs every day. Go on, go on, go on. I think he's brilliant, Virat Kohli. The passion. Yeah, I got bowled in Campbell by York myself to round out the wicket. Yuzi Chahal, poles everywhere. And Virat, I remember I was walking off that way. and Virat was at mid-wicket, I think, and he did a massive loop just to scream in my face. And I was like, why are you wasting your time with me? No, I mean, all the great players that we've all played against, they've got that something special and you don't know, you can't quite put your finger on it.

55:55Michael Vaughan: They've got an aura. Yeah, an aura and Dhoni has plenty of that. I'll tell you what they've all got. They've all got time. Why are you all looking at me like that? They've all got time, haven't they? That's what they've got. As you say, Doney, when he keeps... It just looks like he's just falling off a log, doesn't he? Does he practice his time? How do you get the aura? How do you get the aura? He's a genius. Time. Yeah, but time in what? Aura's your character. Well, like Glenn Oddle always seemed to have an extra touch in him. Yeah, but he's got an aura about his character, you know, when he walks in a room.

56:30Michael Vaughan: so MS doing it he hasn't got time walking around that but how do you get the keen on how do you build that aura Phil come on I don't know I never did it confidence isn't it it's confidence and I think belief in your own ability but it has to be authentic I think people people look through it they see through it if it's not authentic don't they best player you've played with at Kent then Rob Key Keyes it's called me Darren Stevens from a county perspective But kind of previous to your point before, some of the overseas players that we previously had and were able to attract were unbelievable. Kogiso Rabado, who only had a short stint, but it was when he was kind of coming through, and I'll never forget that the physio went over to him and goes, ah, Kogiso, we've been told, you know, these are your workloads, so don't bowl too much at training.

57:23You've only got four overs today. And he goes, how am I meant to get better if I don't bowl? I've come here to bowl and this was he must have been early 20s and I think the impact he had on our group there were just like oh my god this is one of the best players in the world and this is this is his attitude and so in a really short period of time I remember he had a he had a brilliant impact Martin Van Jarsveld another one Jesus oh he was a player what a player what a player Gray Nichols you won't play with Carl Upton and went to Woodworm in the end he did he did he did Carl Upton yeah

57:56Phil Tufnell: you won't play Carl Hooper would not. No, Mr Hooper. Harry, Aravinda da Silva.

58:02Michael Vaughan: He won them the final at Lord's against... They lost, they lost, didn't they? They lost the final. They lost against Lanks, wasn't it? Were you coach? Yeah.

58:15Michael Vaughan: Steve Marsh.

58:17Phil Tufnell: I got to win that game. I've got to do anything in the sounds. Matthew Walker. You know, I used to get in a bit of bother as a coach. You know, you're just getting a bit of bother. So we played that final. Eravinda gets 106, plays brilliant. They go into the media and all the media are talking, what a wonderful innings from Eravinda to Silva. And I'm getting a bit edgy. You know, I said, who won? It's a bit sour, isn't it, really, to say that? No, not so.

58:48Michael Vaughan: Oh, it's not sour.

58:49Phil Tufnell: Bloody right. So then I said, when he came in, I can't remember the... I said, when he came in, I said they were going at 5.4 and over, and when he went out, they were going at 4.6. Oh, hello. Who won? Oh, you went deep into the data. Oh, you went deep into the data. And then you think, no, I shouldn't have said that.

59:09Michael Vaughan: Oh, dear. It's true, though. Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair. Hey Sam, so the 100 gets sold last year. All these new franchises, owners have come in. Communication, you're obviously not at the team that you've won. Three? Three in a row. Three in a row. What's the communication like now that the new owners are in place compared to when Tom was in place? Oh, there's no communication. Nothing? No, and obviously I do sympathise a little bit in that obviously Tom has gone up to Manchester and I know the way Tom operates that he would have, if he was in that role at the Oval, he would have called around.

59:54But ultimately they had two decisions to make in terms of the two players to retain and that was Sam and Jaxie, which is absolutely the correct decision. But yeah, it would have been nice to have a little text message just, you know, from someone. But it is, but that's the world. I kind of sympathise a little bit it's a new era they've taken on the new team so they're going a different direction

1:00:20Michael Vaughan: I'll tell you what's going to be good because this show is going to go out after the auction where are you going to be playing? that's a great question I just hope I get one bid you don't know no I don't know so if you had to so I'll make a guess I think you'll end up in Manchester with Tom Moody that'll be my guess there you go captain and coach yeah absolutely go with the elephants They kept Butler and Salt. Do they need another... Salt's gone to Welsh Fire. Oh, he has. He's captaining at Welsh Fire. There's a couple of teams that need a captain, but again... Which of those teams? They haven't named...

1:00:56Michael Vaughan: Harry Brook will do leads, do you think? Yeah. Manchester... Trent Rockets? Who's they got? No, Trent... Sant... Gregory. No, he's not there. Tom Banton. He's a skipper. Spirit. No, I don't know. Oh, this is a good one. You think Manchester for Sam.

1:01:13Phil Tufnell: Yeah, well, if Tom's gone there and Justin Langer is the coach, isn't he? Yeah. I think Justin's the coach.

1:01:19Michael Vaughan: Yeah, he is, yeah.

1:01:20Phil Tufnell: Yeah. But they've got 70 % of the franchise and Lancashire have got 30. Yeah. Great ground, that, as well. I love that ground. Old Trafford? Yeah, I think it's brilliant ground. That's a plug.

1:01:32Michael Vaughan: It's too late. No, exactly. Yorkshire's gone. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm lucky that. Sorry he didn't get picked up. No, it's... One day, one day. So we're filming March the 10th. I see what you mean. March the 12th of the auction. This show with Sam's going to probably go out maybe next week. So the auction... We don't know where he's playing. That's what I'm saying. Guess where he's going to play.

1:01:52Phil Tufnell: So they've got 70 % of the franchise and Lancashire have got 30. It's the only model. All the rest have either sold out completely or it's 51%, 49 % in favour of the county. That's the only one. Should have sold the lot.

1:02:09Michael Vaughan: Correct. Sold the lot. I agree. I'm going to go Trent Rockets, actually. I think you'll end up there. Where is he going?

1:02:18Michael Vaughan: Southern Brave, don't say. He's Southland, isn't he? I mean, he's Southern Brave. Southern Brave. Nice. You think the elephants. Manchester Island is going to go to the elephants. Where do you want to go? He's going to go to the elephants. He's going to go to the elephants. Get up the coiver. Ride a camel.

1:02:32Phil Tufnell: Do you like going in pubs? Do you go in pubs or not? I'm technically a publican. I own about 2 % of a pub with Morgs and Butler and... What's it called? The Boundary. I've been in The Boundary. Where? After that puddle event. Sam, where is it? The one that I won? In London. Big place, London. Good hands. Where is it? Movement. Where is it? New Kings Road. Oh, it's not. Chelsea, where are you? Yeah, near Stamford Bridge. Yeah, I got you. It's a good pub. Get you there, Bumble. Near Brinkley's. Not far from Brinkley's and Hollywood Arms.

1:03:09Michael Vaughan: Brinkley's a bit further along. Nice. If you get us MS Dhoni, we'll film it in your pub.

1:03:17Phil Tufnell: That'd be a good plug. Get a pub in Manchester. Do you reckon?

1:03:23Michael Vaughan: Ooh. Stick to Cricket is brought to you by Betfair. Samuel, before we go to communications... Easy for you, isn't it? Ten years time, right? Communications. Community questions. Community questions. It's been a long morning. How's cricket going to look in 10 years? Oh, crikey.

1:03:48Players are going to be contracted to franchises directly. There'll be a Champions League, which needs to come back. That would take out a lot of the IT20 series and clear out a lot of the schedule for Test Cricket and ODI Cricket. So I think the Champions League will be back and be flurantised. So you say the Champions League,

1:04:09Michael Vaughan: so like the Champions League in football now, it used to be that if you win the European Cup, you had to win the league in your respective countries. Now it's like, how many teams do England have? Five, six? Five, yeah. How would you put that Champions League together? Would it be the winners of the 100, the winners of the Vitality Blast, the Big Bash, Pakistan Super League, IPL? I think you'd say the premier competition in each country in terms of short-form competition. So in terms of quality of cricket, none of us will argue that the 100 is our premier competition. So it will be the 100 team.

1:04:45And just the winner? What are they going to play?

1:04:48Phil Tufnell: 100? You need to... What are they playing? What game are they playing? They'll walk off after 100 balls. 16.4, that'll be it. That's it. Not a fan. No, absolutely. Absolutely, but I can't see that it's going to stay at 16.4. It will eventually go back to T20. T20, if it's going to be broadcast in India and your adverts bring your money in, the longer it is, the more money you get, surely. And then you'll get your 20 million for you. There's no wrong with that. They'll play. The Champions League would be fantastic, though. We'd all watch that. You'd want to see the South African winners go up. Who's going to play for who?

1:05:29Michael Vaughan: You'll play for each other. who's going to play for weeks I would guarantee that India would get first pick yeah if you play for an IPL team I would say that you're probably going to play for your IPL team if you get to the final why not have an auction another one

1:05:44Phil Tufnell: auction for who's played in the Champions League that makes nonsense yeah you can't judge on this conversation if you're going to Champions League fine one player plays for five franchises

1:05:54Michael Vaughan: I've never this area I don't think we've ever had there's an auction every week and the statements There seems to be statements that get released through cricket all the time. Two things that have changed. Auctions and statements. There is, isn't there? Statement every week from someone. Community questions now, Sam. What is your favourite thing about playing in India? The crowds and how you get treated as a player. I mean, you get treated like a king. It's incredible. Absolutely incredible place to play cricket. Wow. Shisha man. Is that a shisha man? Where's Harry gone? He's our shisha man, isn't he?

1:06:37Michael Vaughan: Why don't we have shisha? Is it allowed to be on camera? He's taking this seriously. Next week, we'll have some shisha. What were you saying? What's that? Nothing. Well, you're not speaking, though. I didn't say anything. All right, good, lad. This is a good one. We can all answer this, actually. what is the toughest away day in county cricket? Chelmsford. On a Friday night. Chelmsford. No. People's Republic. No. I think Scarborough away is a tough one. Oh, that's a good one. I love it. I've never played that. You're not missing Scarborough.

1:07:14Phil Tufnell: It's my favourite ground. Scarborough is my favourite ground in the world. Apparently, brilliant wicket. Like, pace and bounce. Yeah, a good atmosphere. A great atmosphere. No, where's a tough... Garber away. Chelmsford's... I think Langs is quite partisan. That's a tough place to go. Old traffic. People have actually said St Lawrence as well. Yeah, no. I hate coming down to Kent. Yeah, Middlefix. That corner. Yeah, we always used to get... You get thrown strawberries at Kent, don't you?

1:07:43Michael Vaughan: I think they used to boo Bob.

1:07:46Phil Tufnell: It's one or the other. They used to boo Bob Willis down at St Lawrence. They used to boo him when Bob just come into the ground.

1:07:53Michael Vaughan: Big Bob. Right, we'll finish with this one. Will cricket become a three-country sport? No. No? Quite the opposite, I think. I think it will continue. We've seen in the World Cup recently, it will continue to globalise through 2020. I think test cricket, it has the potential to reduce, unfortunately. But I think the game will only go from strength to strength from a T20 point of view. Sam, brilliant. Thanks for coming on Do you need a lift down? Cheers Cheers Cheers It's been great Very good Brilliant Quick photo Do you need a lift down? It's a man when he's down Will you?

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