Ant & Dec: Roy to the Jungle, Newcastle Love & TV Secrets | Stick to Football EP 113

0:00Just before we get started a quick thanks to our partners and clothing we hope you enjoy the show I went to the movies, you know that one? What did you see? The table tennis. Yeah. Didn't you like it? I was feeling it. I was fine. Marty Supreme. Oh, see, that's not what Mrs wants me to go on Friday. It was fine, but everybody's going really mad about it. He's got all the awards, hasn't he? Tim. And he's good. Chalamet. No, he's good, but... Yeah. I don't know. I expect more, maybe. But then, I don't remember I said to you, you didn't... No, it was fine. The Leonardo DiCaprio one. What was it? One, die another, didn't he?

0:36Yeah, again, it was good. He got the awards, didn't he? Did he get it for that? I think the film got an award on that Golden Globes. Adolescence! Oh, my God. No, no. That is absolutely... Yeah, because it's like... I have. It's brilliant. It's magnificent. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, it's brilliant. The young kid, 16? He was an age. Did you watch The Amateur? With Rami Malek, the one about the... I told you about the... Yeah, I know. I'm trying to think. No, you wouldn't think it if you... No, no, no. It's the one about when his missus gets killed and he's like a data analyst for the FBI or CIA. Yeah, yeah, I did see it.

1:13What do you think? Yeah, not bad. I like him. I did see it. But you know what? I watched Nuremberg. Nuremberg with Russell Crowe. Brilliant. I like the other actor. Rami Malek. He's the one I was telling Roy about. The amateur. Yeah, yeah. Right, right. But like Nuremberg magnificent because I've I've heard I've like done audio books on it everything honestly Absolutely brilliant the way they portrayed it. It's kind of it's just come out on skydive With Russell Crowe as Göring is it a wall? Is it what? Oh, yeah, it's brilliant. But if you see, you know what? Do you know what's in it as well the actual footage of the concentration camps and the bodies mean it's and then and those guys who are being I mean, those guys who are being charged, they saw it for the first time.

2:03You can even see Gerin and all of them in there. They saw what was going on. It was brilliant. On Saturday, I'm going to watch... There's actually a film on Jon Bishop's life. Not like a documentary. The comedian, Jon? Yeah. I've seen that, advertised that. So it's how he got into stand-up. They're actually... I'm going to say it's Saturday, basically. And what was it? It's just like... Basically, how he became a comedian was him just... He went into a bar... Is he a comedian? Yeah. Yeah. You should be. He just went in and just started... He was doing a stand-up, didn't he? He wasn't speaking to his missus or whatever.

2:41He just went up, had a little go. Well done. And they went from there. So they're doing a film. Bradley Cooper's produced the film. I love Bradley Cooper. Oh, yeah? I love comedians. I love comedians who go on and they don't have any script. They just do it. I think Billy Connolly was one of them. They just do it. Improv. I thought they were all well-trained. Some are, obviously, but some just go up and off the cuff. The crowd works all off the cuff, though, isn't it? That must be odd. It's Mrs Brown Boys. That's a live audience, maybe. You see it, Mrs Brown Boys, you come out and it's a little less...

3:12Yeah, but it'll be scripted, though, if you know what I mean. You don't know what's going to make people laugh. Amazing. Do you have more respect for people who... Oh, well, whatever works, I suppose. Less scripted.

3:26Well, the reason I'm scripted is because we're stepping into the unknown here a little bit, aren't we? No, this is cool. We're bringing on today two of the most famous... Yeah, but you've got a good team around you. You know what I mean? It's like, if you're a manager, you get the right people. He's still talking about that off last week. Honestly. You want to hear books exactly the same as last week, John? Bum, bum, bum, bum. I am excited, though, about these guests. Why? The most famous pair on television? Apart from you and Jamie. Who were the most famous pair on television? Malcolm and Wise.

4:00Two Ronnies. Two Ronnies as well, yeah. Laurel and Hardy. Del Boy and Rodney. Yeah. Yeah, but you can't say just them two because you've got Boycey and everybody's got Trigger. You've got... They're brilliant. Who is the best? Who's your favourite in all your first... Like, character? Rodney. Trigger. Trigger. Trigger's good. I like Mickey Pierce. He just calls him Dave. He just calls him Dave. When did you call me Dave? He said, is it on your passport? No, no, no. See you later, Dave. But it is that one when he says, be cool, right, be cool, take it. And then he falls off. Who's the famous pair?

4:41Women pair? I can see them. Foster famous women pair called that are on television. French and Saunders. Yeah, French and Saunders. They're magnificent. I'm going to say Sam Fox.

4:54Look, Roy, who's Sam Fox? I don't know who's Sam Fox.

5:04That's a real blast with the past name, that is. God bless her. God bless Sam Fox. Do you know what I was last week? The most underestimated drink in the world. We were chatting about it a while ago. Dr Pepper. At a match, when you're cold. Bovril. Yes, Bovril. How nice is Bovril at a match? Salford. Salford and Everton. Salford's beautiful and Everton. I had three cups at Everton. Because you don't have it often. Of course. When you're at a match and it's cold. Bovril. I do like bovril. I haven't had that for years. Oh, it's beautiful at a match when you're cold. Yeah. Forget. Women, drugs, cars.

5:39Bovril. Bovril. What, so out of them three things, four things, You put Bob Roll first. Remind me, what were the other ones? Bob Roll, part. I might bring out a Bob Jill. Quiz, it's his and him, who knows each of the best? Can we do that? Can you get some questions? Mr and Mrs. Up north. Can we do that? Can you get me some questions on that in the next half an hour, 40 minutes? You must have been on that Mr and Mrs programme. You know they're not a couple, don't you? I know, but I want to know who knows more about each other. Oh, yeah. No! Mr and Mrs, you and your wife, I tell you, you would have done like a celebrity one.

6:10Look how long that was, maybe 12 or something. Look how long Mr and Mrs was. No, it wasn't that many years ago. How long ago was Mr and Mrs? A million years ago. Can we do a film? No. We'll do a Mr and Mr show. Yes, Barry. It's like using Wednesday's my wife's anniversary. You've got to know all these things. Thank you. Which would also be your anniversary. It's like strange facts about each other. Make sure they're like... Yeah, but you're supposed to know it, obviously. Would you be good at that? My favourite album or... Yeah, I'd probably... Would you be good? I think so. At what? I think you would.

6:38At what? Mr and Mrs. In that programme, Mr and Mrs. We've done that before, haven't we? Mr and Missy. We have done it. We've got a chef. Yeah! Yay! Finally! Woo! How are you all? Good to see you. Good to see you. How are you? How are you? You all right? You all right? You all right? I don't want to get out of the cup on you. Get out of it. It's not green in the drink. How are you? Good. How are you? How are you? I'm just like... You're not a hugger, are you? He's not a hugger. Don't get up for us, Rob. You stay there. I'm not worth it. I'm not worth it. He's not worth it. I'm a hugger. I'm a hugger.

7:19I'm a hugger. I like a hugger. You do hug sometimes. You hug the wife? Yes, sometimes. She's been good. Not for a while. Stick to Football is brought to you by Arm Clothing. When I first met yous two for the first time, and I was like buzzing, and I was like, hi, and you just didn't speak to us. You've got to just stick to the cards. I know Ant and Dec are right dickheads. I thought the one really nice. Go clip that bit up and just clear that number on me. Ilinova in the restaurant in the middle of Elliot and started tickling me. He went, you will never leave me. Poor Potts, who won it, was at the front of this line.

7:59And he doesn't look like... I said, what's he doing? He said, he's singing opera. I said, we'll go and have a sandwich. I'll just stay relevant over a long period of time. You've asked them for a friend. Did she not think we were going to do the rest of this football?

8:17Because I did.

8:24Guys, how are you doing? You're looking good, man. Thanks. Thank you. You've been out of last night. You're OK? Oh. Stop the clock. When the second goal went in, I was like, that's it. Look, it's never it. It's never it, you know. Well, it is. To go to the city round and try to overturn the two goals. That's a tough one. But while there's a glimmer of hope, there is hope. There's hope. But not in this... Not in this room. I think, wow, it's going to be tough. The reserves are decent, to be fair. Yeah, they've done a good job. Far saved you, though. That goal should have stood. I didn't understand that.

9:06I did not get that at all. One thing we did. I just don't get how it takes so long. Six minutes. What's it that long? Six minutes, yeah. On things like that, I always put myself in the shoes of the opposition. If that happened to us, how would I feel? And I would have been raging. Crazy. What they're doing in there, trying to find ways to disallow goals. People come to watch goals. Crazy. What about the new rule that Semenyo was allowed to play last night? Yeah. When was that brought in? I know. That was brought in 90 minutes before King-Hell. It's funny, cos... Who does that help, other than the big clubs who can go and buy players?

9:48Mid-season. Yeah. Yous are a big club, aren't you? Well, yeah, we are, yeah. LAUGHTER But you know what I mean? I say that as a Premier League club. In a cup competition, that doesn't... Yeah, you were cup-tied, weren't you? For years and years. And didn't that come up again? Did you have to play the keeper a couple of years ago? In the Cup final in the Carabao against Man United. You had to play Karius. Because Dubrovka played one game for Man United on loan. Yeah. So it's just... Everyone's against you, aren't they? The whole world. Everything's against us. Oh. The whole world is against every football fan.

10:23Yes. No matter who they support. But that competition for you is like last year. Oh, it was brilliant. I was at the final. Oh, my God. It was incredible for the Newcastle fans. Oh, it was brilliant. Yeah. The fans were fantastic. Was it? I've told the kids and the wife. It's the best in life. You're not going to beat this. Because we'd be in the year before where we got bit by Man United and we were like, oh, is it going to be the same all over again? And we were just a better team. You played so well in the semi-finals. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was just... And we haven't ever seen that as a Newcastle United fan.

10:55Ever. In our lifetime. We were born at 75, so, you know, the last trophy was 69. So we didn't know what it was like to win it. You're both born in 75 as well. Yeah. You both look younger than me and I was born in 75. What's gone wrong here? Too many overlaps. You've never worked with Carragher and Keane for ten years. It ages you a little bit. I swear you haven't aged, though. I was looking back at when you did PJ and Duncan. Thank you. Were you, like, 18 when you released that song? Er... Yeah. Yeah, in 1994. I can't do that. We signed our record contract on the day I was 18, or the day after, because if we'd signed it before that, me mam would have to come, because I would have been under 18, she would have to come on tour with us, and nobody wants that.

11:46You know what I'm saying? We'd go on tour, but here's me mam. So, yeah, we waited till we were 18. So we must have been, God, 19, 20, something like that? 19, I think, when we released it. Can you remember the song? Let's get ready to rumble. Come on. He's a fan of shit. Let's get ready to rumble. Get ready, get steady and rumble. Everybody rumble. Jill knows it. Oh, I love it. Sit back, rap attack, don't take no back. They don't want any more.

12:15Let's start with that. You get a record deal. Yeah. You obviously think that that's going to be where you go. How's that, getting a record deal? I mean, obviously, now you work on talent shows where people get deals. Yeah. Well, it was weird for us because we'd been in Baker Grove for about five years. And we did a song in the show. And the whole thing was we were going to take that song, release it, and it was going to get in the charts. And then whatever happened business-wise, contractually, between the TV company and the record company, it all fell apart. So we'd been written out the show, and we were going to release this song, and then it all fell apart.

12:46Then the TV show went out, and they got such a big reaction from the audience. They said, we want to buy the song, we want to buy the song. So another record company got involved. So then we got this record contract, and it kind of came out of the blue. We'd moved on. We'd gone back to college to do performing arts and stuff. So we got this contract. It wasn't a brilliant contract, there wasn't a lot of money in it, but we left college and went and did this. Our second or third song was Let's Get Ready to Rumble. We went top ten, we were on top of the pops. We were like, what the hell's happening here?

13:14Brilliant. And it just went crazy from there. Toured Japan, toured all of Asia. How many songs did you do when you went to Japan? Did you just do one song again and again and again? We had three albums, right? So the first album was written for us and then we thought, right, there's money in this songwriting business. We're going to start... Went platinum? Yeah, we went platinum. Wow, God. Yeah, it was huge. And the people who wrote the songs, you know, made some good money. Yes. Right, we're going to start writing them. The more we wrote, the less we sold. By the time we got to a third album, we hardly sold any albums.

13:47That's a kind of item. No, the third album. Do you know what? This is not for us. And we were never singers or rappers, but we enjoyed it. and that was the option was either go back to college or try our hand at this and you know you're doing it with your best mate and you're travelling the world what's not to love and then towards the end of that towards the end of doing the music we got offered a TV show on kids telly the Ant and Dick show on a tea time on a Tuesday afternoon or whatever so we did that shaved a few kids heads on the show not just that's not a kink of ours we did a game show called Beat the Barber when if they lost we shaved their heads oh my god brilliant It was great.

14:26Just boys or girls as well? Girls as well. What? Girls as well, yeah. That's a good show, that. We should do that on here. Good idea. Imagine that. I'll sell you that. Should we have a game? Yeah. So that kind of came about by accident as well. So that happened and that was a success. And then we got offered another one and another one. Before we knew it, we were on Pop Idol and Britain's Got Talent. Did you have an agent, a manager? When did the agent and manager show up? We had an acting agent back in Newcastle when we were young kids. but then we got management when we just we started Saturday mornings on ITV a show called SMTV live yeah UK and that's when we got we got like proper managers if you love that managers who look at management rather than an acting agent we got management you know you said you had an acting age so you're young kids you want to be actors you're on Biker Grove that stops and obviously you do the music was that the end of sort of the acting then because just just where you naturally went yeah pretty much because there wasn't a lot there was at one point there was quite a lot being made in newcastle you had spender with jimmy neil that was being made you had katherine cooksons which were quite big at the time i was in one of the katherine cooks oh well yeah tell them who you were it's a very memorable character i was peter the stable boy i had one i had one line let me hear it yes What's going on, Mr Charlie?

15:49What's that? LAUGHTER Was it Mr Charlie or was it? Sort of like... LAUGHTER So, yeah, once you get written out about a grub, there wasn't a lot of other options for a young actor in the north-east. Yeah. The best... I don't know if anyone else has ever seen it, or have you used them? Half of the same pet is from up on Newcastle, and that is still one of the greatest... Alvides Zain. I'm ready to sing. Oh, I'm ready to sing. Brilliant. That was amazing. People still watch it now. My mum still puts it on now, yeah. And when it came back as well, even that, they were great scenes. Yeah, yeah. He'd done a song, didn't he?

16:26Jimmy Neal. Jimmy Neal, yeah. Yeah, he's done a song. Oh, yeah. Fucking out shoes. Yeah. Ain't no doubt. She's lying. She's lying. I don't want nobody else. I love you. She's lying. Love Jimmy Neal. Oh, what a legend. You know, the presenting, And did you find it hard when you first went into it? I still find it hard now, do you? No, but it's not easy, though, is it? Like, I did, like, a football match recently and I had to do the presenting bit of it and it's like someone's in your ear and I feel like... Do you still... Obviously, now it'll just come to you as second nature, but at first, did you find it difficult?

17:02Oh, yeah, I'm really nerve-wracking as well. Yeah. I think one of our first big gigs as well was... We did the tea time show and stuff and then they went, we want you to present the smash, it's Paul Winner's party. And you're like, remember them? Yeah. It's like Wembley Arena, 10 ,000 people, live on BBC One on a Sunday tea time. We got there on the day, and I remember doing the first bit, and I couldn't keep the microphone straight because you're just shaking so much. And you've got the ear and the crowd are screaming, and the autocue's going, you're like, I've never read one of these before.

17:29But you just kind of... Get used to it. I'd say what helped us was doing Saturday mornings every Saturday, and this was back in the day before social media, so you could do a show, make a mistake, even though it was live and then or if it was terrible you just wouldn't do it was it always live would you yeah always live because that's the thing i didn't like about the recording is that like yeah and you're doing stuff again yeah but then that's the live is when you shake yeah but it's much better and no one was crucifying you online because you just you know we do the show now we go and have a couple of beers afterwards and there was two of you that i helped and there was two it always helps yeah you're doing it with your mate and you've got someone to fall back on you know something to pick up if you've messed up or whatever which is often.

18:09Yeah, it is. It is. Stick to Football is brought to you by Arm Clothing This January, Super 6 are giving you the chance to win£200 ,000 and a brand new Audi A5 It's completely free to play Just predict six correct scores this weekend And the money in the car could be yours 18 plus TNCs apply

18:38Just looking at all the shows that you do I mean, to be fair, I watched quite a few of them. Thanks, Gary. The celebrity, I just think, to be fair, is a lot of that... Do you have, like, joke writers? Are you at the point now where you're doing all of that? It's clever what you do with I'm a Celebrity, the way in which that... I know it's three weeks, probably, you've really concentrated stuff, but the presenter of that is incredible. Is that your favourite show, do you think? It's... Yeah, probably, I think, yeah. Well, yeah, it is. Like choosing your favourite child, isn't it? Yeah, it is because of where it is, because it's in Australia and it's sunny and, you know, we get to go out there every year.

19:13We've been doing it for 23 years? 24. 24 years now in the same spot. So most of the crew are the same. So it's like one big family. And where we stay is right on the beach. We don't even stay where you guys, you know, the hotel you guys stay. We're a little bit further out and these apartments that we have is right on the beach. So it's just, the way of life's fantastic. But yeah, we've got a couple of guys or three guys that come out with us and they go in at about 7, 8 o 'clock at night while the team are cutting together the show. So all the celebs have gone to bed and the team start cutting the show and those guys come in and they look at everything that's been cut together and they write jokes and some links and stuff.

19:52And then about midnight, everything gets thrown out and they go, we've got something better, we've cut this together. So then those guys write some different jokes. So you're literally getting it fresh off. So you don't get to rehearse it? Well, we get in about 3 o 'clock in the morning and we read their script Then we watch the VTs back and then we go, maybe we'll do... And maybe the VTs have changed again, so we'll go, let's change this bit and change this bit and change this bit. And they go and do the changes, we go and get dressed and put some make-up on and we go down to the floor about...

20:23..6 o 'clock? Well, it's meant to be, but someone's always late. Yeah, you definitely weren't there at 6. No. We go down about 6.15, we do one run-through and then we go live. That is so good. But what time do you actually...? Because you still work hard. You have to get there in the middle of the night, don't you? Yeah, we get there at three. Do you do about 12, 13 hours? Yeah, because I think we finish the show, then we'll do the Bush Tucker trial, and depending on who does the trial and how nervous they are when they do the trial. Or hungry. How well they do. How well they do. We'll finish about midday, half 12, and then so you're kind of finished about 1 o 'clock.

20:56If you have the afternoon, then you get to bed about 6pm. But it's great. We love it. And that's the thing. Even when we get to sight in the morning, and just before you watch the VTs, in our little kind of port-a-cabin thing, we've got a feed of all the cameras, so we can just sit there watching them, watching you sleep when we are... You know what's really weird? It sounds a bit stalkerish when I sit out. What's really weird is even when you two just walked in there, I didn't want to look right in it. Put your hand in this. When they're coming in, you know that something's going to happen. Sorry about that, Ian.

21:27It might be you. Right, when you do it, you'll realise that it's actually all the fun. It's a lot of fun. Dream on, lads, dream on. Is it a no, then? Because I know you've joked about it on here a lot. Or do we just need to go back to ITV today with something signed and you fill in... Give us a bit of paper and a pen. You can write down a number. Write down a number. I'll take it to ITV. Put it under their noses. Don't happen to mention it here. Right, have you actually had... You write a number and we'll have a look. Why did you think it sounds about numbers? Because that's what it was, man. It might think it's about numbers.

22:00Have you had an offer off Amazon? A couple of times, yeah. He could have a couple of weeks off here, couldn't he? He don't want to hang around here like a bad smell. He's shinned him for two months. He's hanging around like a bad smell. He's having a bad smell. Yeah, but we said if we get Ant and Dec on, then we'll send you to the jungle. Who agreed that? It was behind the scenes. That's what we agreed. It was behind the scenes, right. To be fair, Roy, I would love just to... Not necessarily talking to everybody in the camp, I'd just love to see you in the Bush Telegraph. just your commentary and punditry on everybody else.

22:36Wow. Like, can you imagine last year? It's worth a million. Did you see Anger Gin? Yeah. Arguing about the dishes. What's wrong with him? Just get on with it. Get on with it. It's his job. It's his job. It's his job. Baby. Baby. Is that your Irish accent?

22:55Scottish therein. You'd be so good. Is there even, like, 1 % of you that would consider it? I don't know. I don't know. Where there's hope. There's always a glimmer. Newcastle and the second leg. I don't like looking too far forward. That's what was it next? Too far away. Your family would love to stay over there. They'd love me to stay over there, yeah. But they'd love coming out to see you there. It's a nice place to come, isn't it? Friends and family. They have to do all that getting up as well. We're all going on a TV programme. That's what makes a better point. You could just go on holiday.

23:28Was yours a big number, righty? Huh?

23:37It's not about the numbers, it's about the experience. I mean, that offer extends to you two as well. It's not exclusively just for right. So we could have everybody there be on it. We'd have to go together. Jay, honestly, I could see you in there. Yeah, yeah. You know what, I'm not joking. If Gary, just to, because of how manic Gary can be, and how, you know, the phone and how busy he's got so many things, it'd be unbelievable to see him in there doing... Yeah, you need a bit of a digital detox, I reckon. Honestly. Go in there. I'll go in if Roy goes in. I'll go in if Roy goes in. Oh, my God.

24:06That'd be good. We all go in. Yeah. We'll both go in. No, no, I'm not going back with him. We'll both go in if he goes in. Tell you what, if you both go in, it's late entries. Yeah. Perfect. We don't want to tell anyone. All right. Yeah, no one watches this show. You've just told them. I said nothing. We've been doing it 20-odd years. Who has been the standout blockbuster guest in that time? Oh, God. Oh, my God. There's so many to choose from. but I think the year we got Caitlyn Jenner. Oh, my God. I was in there. LAUGHTER Was he in? Sorry, Caitlyn Jenner, Andy and Wright together. Together at last.

24:40It was tough, man. You got hungry. Did you find it tough? Yeah, I did, yeah. But people don't understand that the hunger and the tiredness, it gets you because people don't realise, they do genuinely feel that when the cameras stop rolling, that everything's like, OK, pack it all up, let's go to the hotel. Honestly, nothing can be further from the truth. It was hard sometimes, right? It was so hard, you know what I mean? And I think I showed that some of the times. And I didn't want to go in and try and not be angry when I'm angry. You can't try and be someone else because it would take up too much energy.

25:13Yeah, it would. When you get out, people always say, is it real? Is it real? And you're like, yeah. Because I remember when I first met yous two for the first time and I was, like, buzzing and I was like, hi, and you just didn't speak to us. Blanking, yeah, they can't do nothing. That is really hard though, when you come down with the trials. And we're always going, all right, right, you've got to just stick to the card. And we have to tape our watches as well, so you don't know what the time is. None of the crew talk to you, so you don't form any relationships. Once you're in it, you're in it, you know?

25:42It's that kind of mentality. I remember I mentioned. No, not at all. I was like, I'm in Becker, right, dickhead? Don't clip that bit up, you're clear that I remember I've done this. There's one time I think you mentioned what you'd want right now, and I mentioned the cream egg. And someone said, did you lot come in with a Cadbury's cream egg? It was in your pocket. That's so close to me. I said, I'd have paid anything for it. Because in that moment, all I wanted was... I just wanted a cream egg. I would have done anything. Just to have it. You know when you get to that, Jill? Yeah, yeah. And then after a while, you get to a place where you just want people to be fed.

26:16So you'd do anything. Yeah. You'd drink anything. You'd eat anything. It is. Phil Tufton was, when he was on it, he was offering all the cameramen who were just around the camp, like, hundreds of dollars for one cigarette. Give me a fag! Somebody give me a fag! I'll give you$500 when I get out of here! Give me a fag! And all the cameras are, like, hidden in rocks and stuff, like, big... big kind of... What do you call it? Like, fibreglass rocks. And there's guys in there and he was climbing up the rocks, like, give us a fag! Give us a fag! It's a desperate point. But you've made a song really appealing, right?

26:52You know what it does? I'll tell you what it does. It totally changed my weight on eating. Because I don't need to eat sometimes. I can just be hungry. No problem. I don't need to eat as much as I used to eat. Because I think, well, I don't really need it. Because some of the times, I was starving. And then you do a butcher taco trial. I remember there's one in particular I'll never forget. That was just like black chicken. I've never seen it. It was just... Silky. Oh, yeah, Silky. Silky. Never heard of it. Never seen it before. But, like, it came down. You know, you have to... You're all excited.

27:24They finger it down, it comes down, and bam, you open it, it's black. I've never even seen it. I was like, I don't even want to eat that. And I'm starving. Racist. LAUGHTER

27:38Terrible. No, no, no. It was... It's a great programme, though. Did you ever think it would reach the heights that it had, like, when you did that first couple of series? Oh, God, no. When they first pitched it to us, they said we're going to put celebrities in the rainforest and it's going to last... It was two weeks back then, two weeks every night. We're like, OK, right, this sounds... It sounds expensive and it sounds like it's a bit of a risk for ITV to take. And they said, we're going to call it I'm a Celebrity, get me out of here. What a terrible name for a TV show. Too long. Too long. It's not catchy enough.

28:09No-one's ever going to call it that. They'll change the name. And of course, that's the, you know, not the one thing people love, but it's stuck in. Yeah. Love it, though. Love it. It's brilliant, man. How do you choose gigs? As in, you obviously took that gig, which was a risk at the time. Yeah. How many did you turn down? Oh, no. Quite a lot, yeah. Obviously more than you accept. A lot of it is just instinct. It's just, you know, you sit there and talk about it and go, that would be fun to do that and this would be fun. And it's got scale, it's got this. And it's kind of, we sit and talk to each other.

28:38And if we can get excited about it and talk about the things we could do with it, then you just get that feeling in your gut, don't you? Do you ever, like, you might like it or you might like it and he might like it, and then you have to kind of try to convince each other. Have you ever said, I really want to do it, you said, no, it's not the right one. You had to convince me a bit more that I'm a celebrity. Yeah. Because I was like, does the world need another celebrity television show? It was around the time where everything that was launched had the word celebrity in it. Yeah. And it was, I was like, I'm not sure.

29:08So, yeah, we fancied it, but I was a little bit more hesitant than you were. You're welcome. LAUGHTER You're a good shot. Have you ever turned one down that's gone on to do incredibly well? No, thank God. We haven't, though, have we? We have, I don't think so. We've done a few turkeys over the years, but... There's a few we should have turned down. No, I don't think we have. Thankfully. We're lucky in the fact that the shows that we have been hosting, we've been hosting for a long time, so... I'm a celebrity, 24 years, Britain's got talent, I think, is 17, 18 years. 18 now, yeah. Takeaway was 20 years, Saturday Night Takeaway, before we paused that.

29:46So we're lucky that they've hung around so long. Because a lot of TV programmes are kind of struggling at the minute, aren't they? So they have that longevity. Do you know what I think, and what we always talk about as well, is that shared view and experience for families. It's important for us. It's a family can watch. You can sit with the kids and watch it. Even if it is I'm a celebrity, you might have a bit of swearing in, whatever. If you're cool to sit with your kids and teenage kids and watch it, then... I think that's the only thing I watch on TV now, where you do think, OK, that's on later on.

30:17You're going to sort of sit there and watch it. I'm going to sit as a family and point in a view, yeah. There's not many of them left, is there? No. You know, with the... You know, with the Susan Boyle... Mm. Oh, yeah. Did you hear her sing before? Or was that the first time when you actually heard her? That was the first time. Jesus. We were backstage in Scotland and she was there and she had her little Tupperware with sandwiches in. And it's that whole thing where she's going, look at this one coming up. This'll be fun. And then she starts singing. Wow. And everybody's like that. It's just a moment.

30:47And then for her, like, the episode went out, the clip went on to YouTube, and overnight it got 20 million views. Literally over the Saturday night and over the Sunday. And that weekend, just because of YouTube and clips, she was just a huge star in the States as well. All over the world. All over the world. it's mad the first ever series of Britain's Got Talent right so we we were looking forward to work with Simon again and we were looking forward to because we'd done Pop Idol with him and we were looking forward to auditioning people who weren't just singers it was you know any kind of talent could audition but we'd structured the days differently then and they said well we've got about ten more people to see to put in front of the judges and then we were like where are they because we haven't had a lunch break yet and they were like well that's the line there and we looked down the line and poor Potts, who won it, was at the front of this line and, you know, he doesn't look like...

31:41I said, what's he doing? He said, he's singing opera. I said, we'll go and have a sandwich. So we got upstairs and we're in this old theatre, we're in the top of the theatre, we're sat down and you know the little speakers that you get in dressing rooms and theatres where you can hear what's going on on stage and we're going to hear, Nelson Dormer, and he had just heard this standing ovation. We're like, get back downstairs! And we got back just in time. That was amazing. LAUGHTER And then he went on and won it. So from now on, we've got to see everybody, no matter who they are. Brilliant. They're both great examples of not judging books by their career.

32:16Yeah, exactly. You mentioned Simon Cowell. I don't think anybody knows him. Can you tell us a little bit about him? I don't think I know him that well, if I'm not. He's actually a really charming bloke. Great sense of humour. He's funny, generous. yeah we get on well with him we've always kind of had a good relationship with him because we're quite honest with him and I think he appreciates that what does that mean well we'll just tell him what we think of his show or of different things no just in general is that because everybody's like all faffing around him maybe it's a bit of that yeah but I think yeah and he asks our opinion and trusts our opinion and I think he kind of respects the fact that we've been doing it for as long as we have and yeah we've We'd been annoyed at him a few times over the years.

33:04We went, remember we went for lunch, took him to lunch... In LA. We went to LA to see him, to tell him we were going to leave. Britain's Got Talent. Because we weren't having a very nice time. He was always late. It was gone through his period where he would just never turn up on time. And we were... Ride him down well with him. Oh, well with him. I see, right. And we were in the show less and less and we were like, we're not really... It's taking up a lot of our time. We're not really in the show. We might as well leave. and put our energies elsewhere. So we went out for lunch with him in LA and we said, look, we're thinking about leaving because of this, this, this.

33:35He went, oh, well, no, no, you can't leave. You know, this is not going to happen. I'll turn up on time and we'll make sure that, you know, you're featured more in the show and that you have more fun with it and blah, blah, blah. We're like, well, OK, if you can make that happen, that would be great. And so I said, have a lunch. And he went, I can't believe you were thinking of leaving. And he leaned over in the restaurant in the middle of Elliot and started tickling me. He went, you will never leave me. I'm the weirdest image ever. I'm not with them two. I think I'm going to leave again. But he took it on board.

34:11He took it on board and since then we've had a lot more fun and we really feel like it's much more our show rather than just his show. And he's relaxed a bit. Yeah. He's relaxed a bit than what he was like. He was very all about trying to sign the next big thing. And I think on Britain's Got Talent, it's not about that. It's about seeing the best talent that's out there and having fun with it and making sure it's a good viewing experience rather than making him another million quid. And since you became a dad as well, we all know becoming a parent opens up a whole other side to you. It softens you, doesn't it?

34:43It softens you. It's only about five. Have you two ever properly fallen out and considered sort of like... Fitting up. Yeah, like we thought we needed time apart from each other. Everyone would be so sad. Imagine a world without an index. We had a fight in a lift once in... In a lift. Was it Tormilinos? Tormilinos, yeah. Must have been nasty, that, was it? LAUGHTER Scrappy little fight, that was it. Yeah. Oh, horrible. Me and Phil... Lord, cut out his broken noses. Well, nearly, nearly. He flicked me cap off, which I can't be about. And then he punched me in the chest. I can't remember what it was over.

35:24We were just both drunk and we were on GMTV the next morning, they were doing this fun in the sun... What was it? Like a road show thing. We were out there to promote a record and we got drunk the night before in Torremolinos. We'd never really been abroad before. We'd been away on foreign holidays. But because we're British and in Spain, we're like, let's go to the bar! We went to a British pub in Spain, had a full English and then just drank like 12 pints and had a fight in the lift. But then we were at Best Mates the next morning. it was fine it was worth it because are you actually best mates yeah yeah yeah we so when we first moved to london again like all these opportunities came out of the blue so we would come down to london for two weeks and go back to newcastle come out of london for three weeks go back to newcastle come down to london for a month go back to newcastle like we just need to be in london so we uh ended up getting a flat in london so obviously we shared a flat together um had to We had to toss a coin to see who got the big double bedroom.

36:20I got the kids' room next door. Bob's? Double-sided coin. We shared a flat for three years in London, then bought houses. But when we bought houses, we bought houses next to each other because they were this little development. I went along to view this house and said, will you come with us? I'd love your opinion. So I was like, yeah, I think I'll take it. And he went, yeah, it's nice. Is that one next door for sale? Yeah, yeah, he said, I'll have that one. So we bought houses next to each other. Then I got married and thought I'm going to move to a bigger house, moved round the corner. He bloody bought the one next door.

36:51You're joking. I've since moved away from, like, away. So you don't know. I've called me a state agent. He's on to his. STICK TO FOOTBALL is brought to you by Arm Clothing. What's been the key to staying relevant? Obviously, it's difficult from the age of... When did you first work together? 11, 12? 13. 13. 13. And you're now 50. how do you stay relevant over a long period of time? You've asked them for a friend.

37:23How do we stay relevant?

37:29That's a really big question. I'm not sure. We just kind of follow our instincts and we do things that we find interesting, we do things that we find funny, we do things that we find entertaining. in and you've got to be talked into some stuff as well you know not talked into it but you you want to educate yourself on when social media came along we're like we don't really understand it that well so we want to understand it more like you know a bit like you said podcasts come along we're like we're interested in that we want to learn more about it we'd like to do one one day so you've got to yeah well there's a curiosity i think that's yeah which will which will never would you have exit plans for somebody's do you have a plan the next few years of certain programs you want to leave while you're still kind of wanted in that sense?

38:12Yeah, I mean, with Saturday Night Takeaway, we knew we wanted to get to 20 series, and we thought, you know, we want to pause it there, and that would be a good place to stop it, because we'd taken breaks before, and it had paid off creatively for the show, that we'd came away from it, and then we'd gone back with fresh ideas and fresh thinking, and the show was better because of it. So, yeah, there was a bit of an exit plan then. But, yeah, with the other two, we're just still really enjoying them, aren't we? Yeah. Britain's Got Talent, and with Unlimitless Wind, which is on at the minute. I love that.

38:42Oh, my God, the height of a milk carton. It's got your measuring on it. Yeah, like 28 centimetres. And then the matches in the box, actually. I was playing the other day. It's great. I play it now when I'm out shopping. It's so good. Look at you, I love you. I know, I love it. I love all these programmes. It's one of those quiz shows where there's obviously tons of money on offer, but some of the questions are things everybody can have a go at. Like, when you're watching Millionaire, As soon as it gets to£250 ,000, I'm out. I can't play this. But with ours, you can just keep going. The height of a milk carton in centimetres.

39:16How many fruit pastels are there? Wow. It's good. But you can never be like that. Have you watched it? Yeah. No, he hasn't. LAUGHTER But you get a buzz when you see people like Jill, who do well on your programmes. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Absolutely. That's what's brilliant. And the thing with I'm a celebrity as well is that, like righty said, you can't hide your true self. And so when people have really invested in you, it's because they've invested in you as a person. And that's a lovely accolade. And then to go on and do brilliantly afterwards. Even for you guys, because you've stopped playing football and then you do something completely different in the media and you're all successful at it.

39:59I mean, that's a bigger shift than what we did, really, going from acting to presenting. You know, you guys have completely changed your careers. We're doing the same thing. We're just lucky enough to be able to talk about it for a living. Right, yeah. Able to play it for a living and then talk about it. It's a double whammy of brilliance for me. Yeah, but it is different already, isn't it? A little bit. TV and live TV, yes. Yes. Lots of ex-players can do it. Yeah. You know when you did the Ian Wright show, the first show when he came out and it was really successful and everyone but you loved it and not a lot of players could have come straight out and done what you've done you know something you couldn't that just gives me such a so traumatic I remember I had to do the first traumatic such a traumatic feeling really because I remember the first two shows I had to do for Friday nights alright it was no auto cue and I honestly the first time and it was a live audience it was recorded in front of a live audience and I remember I came all my family there everybody's there and I came out I totally forgot all the intro.

41:03And I went back out, came back, tried to bam, bam, bam, and going through, because it was a long one, but I had Lionel Richie on, I think Chris Eubank, I can't remember who it was. And I had all of them on. Yeah, Tina Hobley was coming outside to do all this thing. And then, you know, if you mess up on one word, it throws everything. Yeah. And I said, OK. So then you do it and you stumble through it. And then the guy says, Ian, can we just do it again? And then you go out and then you come back and you mess it up. And I was like, this isn't going to work. The whole of the iFeet Die TV people must have been up there thinking what are we getting this guy on there and i remember i'd done it got through the show yeah and then the next one was saying and then i went to the office up in itv building and then they had the auto cue thing in there with the lady and there's in and they said can you just see if you can read and they'd done the whole of the the intro what i was going to do and i read it word for word and i said and they said oh you can read it and i said yeah and so then after that it was You know something?

41:57I went through... I went through... Multitask. I went through, like, the next couple of days before they showed me that, thinking, what's going to happen here? That was a disaster. You know what I mean? It was a disaster. I was thinking, this ain't going to happen. Then once the autocue was in there, bam, it was fine. How much are you on autocue and how much are you on just sort of riffing? It depends which show. Limitless wins, like, we're just there playing the game with the contestants. There's very, very little on the autocue. I'm a celebrity quite a bit, but we still kind of go off it. Think of things in the moment.

42:29When you're doing the Bush Tucker trials, we've got the rules on the cause. Some of the stuff you see in there, that never makes a yetta. I'm like, this is not making the yetta. He's got so rude on the Bush Tucker trials. We do see stuff just to try and make you laugh. That's just your way of trying to help. Yeah, just try and relax you a little bit. Recognise that. We try. There's even some bits you do on the day, you think this will never make the show but we'll do it just for the crack. and then we come in the night and watch it and maybe you've put a few of them in. And we're like, you can't put that in!

42:59You can't take that out! That wasn't the best for the show! You know when you're talking about the I'm a celebrity and talking about the editing bit, do you have a say in that in terms of what clips go out? Yeah. To a degree, to a degree. We'll come in and the show's already quite put together, but there'll be some times where we'll watch it fresh. Those guys have been watching it all night, all the producers, and we'll come in and watch it fresh and kind of go, just there's a bit in there I didn't quite understand, or there's a bit... So they were talking about this, and they said, well, I didn't get that vibe.

43:28That way we might need some more shots of whoever the subject is. It's that sometimes you look at things and you think, that'll be great for the show, but it's not great for that person. You know what I mean? Then you keep it in. We have a lot of that. People like to say that about it. People complain, don't they, maybe, about it's edited, or I haven't come across, right, that wasn't... It is one of the big things, how it's edited. It seems to be a theme, doesn't it? But you still have to have done something. Well, that's right. We can't make you say something that you didn't say. You know, if you've said it, you've said it.

44:01They might not have used the whole conversation because of time constraints. Whatever you've said, you've said. The people who complain about the Edison are always the people who haven't done very well. The people who've won it never complain about the Edison. It's brilliant. I think you've said it. The editors... It's like football fans, isn't it? They never complain about VAR when it goes in their favour. Yeah, exactly. Has there ever been a time where something's gone out and you've winced a little bit and thought, ooh, I'm not sure how that was going to go, like from a point of view of risk?

44:29For the contestants? Or for yourselves, or when you've done a joke, sometimes you're a little bit close to the... Probably, yeah. Yeah, probably. You get that a lot on Amazelabh, especially with social media. You know what it's like, you'll do something. And for us, it's live, it's in the moment. Sometimes we just react off a VT and you say something and then you just go on social media to have a look and you go... Oh, God. I didn't think that would get that reaction. I can't remember any specifics. You were house and Dennis Weiss, weren't you? Do you think? For his height a little bit. LAUGHTER I think the whole point of the Dennis Weiss thing was actually he's the same height as me.

45:07That's what I was going to say. So I think I'm justified.

45:13Stick to Football is brought to you by Arn Clothing. You said before about new things, but you've just launched a podcast. We have? Hanging out with Ant and Dec. Yes. Well, this is one of those things that we've loved podcasts for ages, obviously fans of this, loads of others, listen to loads of podcasts, and we've always been curious about doing one. So we asked our followers on social media, like, should we do a podcast? And they all said yes. And for us as well, we're now dads to very small kids, so they take up a lot of our time. Ant now doesn't drink, so we don't go to the pub. So we don't get time to hang out anymore.

45:54We don't hang out as pals anymore. We go to work and we do the work, but we very rarely hang out. So we thought, can we put the two things together? If we do a podcast, that means that we can just hang out more. You need each other. Yeah, we just say to the missus, well, it's work, innit? It's work. So we hang out, we catch up, we swap stories, we get stuff from the listeners. they send in stories or problems that they've got that they want us to solve. Yes. Any anecdotes that they have, little things. So we do that. And then we do another episode every week, which is the mystery door episode, which there's something behind the door.

46:32Either it's a person, a famous guest, an expert, a food, a thing from memorabilia. It's very broad, yeah. So it could be anything until that Spock's off a conversation. And we genuinely don't know. We said to the team, we said, just don't tell us, don't even give us a clue, we prefer it that way. So the first one, we open the door, which I think is out today. The first one, we open the door and there's this woman, she walks in and sits down. We've got to ask her questions to find out who she is. Turns out she's one of what she calls the psychic sisters and she deals in tarot, palm reading and crystals.

47:08So she did our tarot cards, read my palm, did answer crystals, told us, live on the show, told us our fortune. What was it? Well, you'd have to tune in. She's good, though. She's gone out by then, though. She's good, yeah. She's good. But she did the tarot for the show. So we were like, do the tarot for the show and see if this podcast is going to be a success. So she goes like this. She goes, oh, yes. She says, I see that this is going to be successful. She goes, oh, it's going to go on for 10 years. She goes, oh, I'm seeing a television spin-off. I'm like, that'll never work. What's on TV? And then she says, I don't see that.

47:49It's opening up doors to America. Now I know you're full of rubbish. We've tried that love and we failed. What is your plan with it? I don't know. It's like anything, isn't it? Like this, you don't know how successful it would be. You just got to... As long as you're enjoying it, that's the main thing. And are you going to batch record? Obviously, we come here every week. to record every week. Will you do a few records in a week? I think we're going to try and do it weekly. Keep it topical. Because a lot of it as well is we have interactions on the show and then we say to the audience, like, what do you think?

48:25Are you having an audience watching? You do it? No, no, but to the audience listening and watching. So it's on our YouTube channel, Belt the Box, and goes out on all the listening platforms as well. But in the first episode, we had a conversation about tattoos. and Ant's got a few tattoos, I haven't got any. So, and Ant says, I'm looking for another tattoo, actually, I'm thinking about getting another tattoo. So we set the challenge to the listeners. What kind of tattoos? Design them a tattoo. Nathan, whatever. I'll curate the ideas, and maybe for the summer, Ant will get the tattoo designed by the listeners.

48:58Wow. Somewhere on me body. Somewhere on it. On your neck or something? Well, you want to get one. On me forehead. There's a lot of space on me forehead. Maybe set the challenge, yeah, what do I get a tattoo that... Because Gary, yeah. Gary wants to get one as well. This might not go well, though, if we put it to our community. LAUGHTER You've got a different community to our... LAUGHTER And not all our friends. Yeah, exactly. Weren't you meant to get one, though? I'm going to get one. Before your next birthday? I don't know, that's the problem. You see the same as me. I'm too indecisive. Top of my leg, here or here.

49:35Who's got tattoos? You got tattoos? I've got loads, yeah. You've got to just go and get it done. You've got to just have the idea and go. Whereas you've waited now ten months. I know. You're too indecisive. You're like him. You just thought you wouldn't make your mind up. What would you have if you were having one done? You can't make his mind up. I'd have... Shearer. SHE LAUGHS Shearer that side. He's a big fan to me. Shearer. I'm going to be over that side. With his elbow be up like that. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER Very good. Go on, Miguel. When someone's not looking, you know, when someone's heading it...

50:11LAUGHTER Nice one. Nice one. Good shout. You mentioned the US. Yes. What have you done in the US that's not worked well? We did a show called Wanna Bet, which is... You know what you bet? Yeah. Which ran for years over here and Stephen Muller's just done a series of it. We did it for America and it was called Wanna Bet. and we don't want serious. It was okay. They didn't spend the money on it that we thought they were going to and they kind of promised one thing and delivered another thing. So you try it. A lot of people don't realise that that You Bet format was the biggest entertainment show in Germany called Wettendass.

50:48And it was a huge, huge show and it was big scale and the big stunts. So they called us and said, we're not doing You Bet in America, we're doing Wettendass. We're doing the big show. We're doing the big scale stunts. We want you guys, we want you guys to come to America and host it. And we're like, Bob on. Lovely it is. So we went to LA and did the show. And we're like, it's not as big as I thought it was going to be. So it wasn't quite the big scale. And then we shot it for ABC, did them all in a record. And then they just sat on it. They sat on it for about 18 months. Eventually put it out in the summer.

51:22It bombed. We said to them, didn't we? We said, we're coming to Australia again. We could go the other way around. We could stop in LA, do some promo for it. because we're not just about to launch. They're like, no, you're all right. Just go the other way around and go straight to Australia. I don't think it's going to be a hit. I mean, that's it, though. They are quite brutal over there. Have you done any pilots of shows that didn't then make it a TV? Yeah, we've done a few. We've done a few with ITV. and not necessarily because it didn't work, but sometimes you all sit and look at it and go, I'm not sure this is the right thing for us or the right thing for the channel.

52:07So, yeah, there's been a few things that haven't quite worked out. You know what I loved was that show that you've done and I've done it after. Friends Like These. Of course, we both did Friends Like These. Such a good show. It was done on a penalty shoot. Yeah, it was, yeah. And you've got your five friends and then you pick one to do each task. It's brilliant. I met someone the other day again who said, I was on that show with you. Yeah, because I think the whole idea of it was trying to pick the person which would be good at that game. That game, yeah. But they wanted to replicate what it must feel like to step up as a team and take penalties.

52:44Take penalties, yeah. There's still nothing better as penalties to decide something. Yeah, I still feel that that is a show that they could easily bring back in today. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Five mates. Yeah. Brilliant, because they used to get so much fun. They used to get a brilliant holiday if they won all together. It was a fantastic effort, but you have to do your task. And there's not many shows for groups of mates to apply to be on at the same time. If they did bring it back, I wonder who would host it? You or us? No. I'm done. Are you done? Yeah, I'm still in respect to the trauma of that.

53:21LAUGHTER It's not all right. Is there a show that you watch on TV that you think, I wish we were doing that or I wish that was our show? Ooh. The Traitors is good. Yeah, yeah. It's a good show. But I'm quite happy that I'm a celebrity. But that's the one that you watch and go, oh, yeah, well done, well done, Claudia. She's a really good presenter. Yeah. Yeah, really enjoy watching her do that. Yeah, watch a load of stuff. I've watched a lot of US dramas as well. I'm just watching Landman. You watch Landman? I've just watched it, yeah. It's good, isn't it? Brilliant, isn't it? Oh, God, I love Billy Bob Thornton.

53:54Yeah, it's brilliant. I just binge both of them. There's not many entertainment shows we've got, though. Not really. Lucas, yours are the best. Ah, thanks, Jill. Jill. Honestly. Yeah, but all the best shows, yous are actually at the forefront of it. We're very, very lucky. Yeah, we are. Yeah, but I expect you guys to be magnanimous about it, but you're very good. Yeah. Thank you. That's why you get the best shows. That's why when you're trying to think of another show, you might think of Traitors, but you are doing the best shows. And even to be across the edit as well, like for people listening, you're saying, oh, we'll go in and we'll do it.

54:30Like, that is such a skill to be able to present and obviously do the edit. And I've seen you on live TV watching the Newcastle match at the same time. When we were in Australia this year, they went to like a break on ITV and I was like, what are they doing? They're both looking and Newcastle were playing... It was the Champions League game. So they're just watching the Champions League game and then they're like, right, back on air now. What's been happening in the jungle? You get to many games. I was up the other week, I was at the Newcastle Palace game. Yeah, we get to a handful a season. Yeah, as many as we can do, we'll get to see them.

55:06The diarrhoea doesn't always allow, but we get to a few. We normally get to a few games over Christmas, But that was all out the spout this year, wasn't it? One game on boxing. That was us against Man United. It was really weird that one. Did you go to the derby? Of course we did. Insanely, are you mad? I knew that was coming to you. Of course we didn't go to the derby. I was just thinking... I still can't believe that game. They would never have scored in a million years if it hadn't been before. You didn't want it as much as we did. We wanted it. You weren't going to score a goal, though, if it wasn't for us.

55:38I would have found a way. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad. On that actual game, I was very surprised that Newcastle weren't as intense as our Sunderland were. They've just come up, they're having an unbelievable season at home. I couldn't understand why Newcastle was so tepid in the game. It was funny, after that game, and I think we were away to Burnley, was it the following week or maybe a couple of weeks, and then we just started clicking, players started coming back. We've missed Livermanto and Lewis Hall, I think is brilliant. when them two are playing they're electricity but that's a good way to motivate the boys though they're losing to Sunderland you better get it right because the fans that would be yeah but that's a good sign when you respond they'll have to accept that yeah you have to give them credit as well for that yeah exactly and I heard you saying about Eddie Howe the other day that you won him well I think he'd be a good option yeah I think he's on a brilliant job in Newcastle I think he's happy where he is very happy where he is that's what he is yeah I love him we love him sure he is yeah and he said that what you said about him being calm I think that that really helps you as a fan not be too up and down about performances because you just go if Eddie's alright about it I trust Eddie he's got his good temperament the fans aren't shouting for him to go or whatever you're just like alright yeah you can easily see when I heard Royce you can easily see him at United because he's dealing with noise at Newcastle yeah he's a young man people forget how many games he's managed I think 700 and something games he's managed brilliant where are you with Newcastle with the ownership there's always this feeling that was going to kick on when a fair's coming?

57:10Is it almost sort of stalled now? Do you think it can go on to the next level? I think it will and I think it'll probably take time. There's obviously the whole PSR thing which always is hanging around Newcastle that we can't spend as much as they'd like to. And I think just hearing that they're just about to invest in a new training complex which they need. If you want to be that big club in Europe, if you want to be, you know, the owners have said they want to be number one. I read that a few days. Why would they only be doing that now? Why wouldn't they do that as soon as you come in? Because that's not to do with PSR, is it?

57:45Yeah, no. I don't know. I think they improved the training ground, but I think their idea is now they've got the site secured. OK. And then they can build the training ground and then get it sponsored by themselves for, like, billions and then start buying players. Oh! Yes, there you go. Are you talking about Newcastle or Man City? I don't know but I think to be fair to them I think all of the decisions they make are very carefully considered and they don't just spend money willy nilly you know it has to be a sustainable investment it has to put value on sounds like you know them no no no it's all I think you know it's the investment fund so I guess they need to see a return on that they absolutely do so it needs to be the right side it needs to be the right investment and I think then they'll probably do that and then in turn it'll be right we need to look at the stadium next.

58:38Still got 125 million pounds of Isak burning a whole lot of pockets.

58:45Hasn't gone well. I was not 40. You should give a mention for Kevin Keegan as well. Oh yeah, I thought so with Kevin Keegan. Absolute hero. That's when I started going to Newcastle, 1982 when Kev first signed as a player. He didn't come in a helicopter. He left on a helicopter. But yeah, that first game, I didn't go to the first game. The first game was going QPR and he scored on his debut. And then I think I went to the second home game. My oldest brother took me to the second game and I was just... You're in. His team didn't park the bus, did he? It was brilliant. No, they did not park the bus.

59:23What a time, what a time that was. Like Arsenal at the moment. That was how we really became friends, because we were on Baker Grove at the time and we were kind of not, we weren't in the same scenes together to start with so we didn't really know one another. Then we were written, our characters were hanging around with each other and we said, oh, you're a Newcastle fan, I'm a Newcastle fan. I mean, everyone's a Newcastle fan, people are in Newcastle because there's no other club in the city, thank goodness. But we're saying, oh, do you like this TV? Do you like that? I said, do you go to the match much?

59:51And he says, yeah, I do, I do. He says, yeah, I do. So you got a Christmas card off, did I send you a Christmas card? You sent me a Christmas card with Fred Flintstone on the front saying, have a yabba-dabba-doo Christmas. Are you serious? I know. Two-deck Merry Christmas from Ant. P.S. Fancy going to the Swindon game Boxing Day. So we met up at Grey's Monument in Newcastle, one o 'clock. Went to Greggs. Went to Greggs. Then went to the match. Look at the town, went to Greggs. Proper Geordie day, that was brilliant. Watched a tepid 1-1 draw with Mickey Quinn scoring and equalising. And that was it.

1:00:21We were mates for life then. And then we went to the matches as much as we could. It's fantastic. It's a lovely story. And we bonded. Stick to Football is brought to you by Arn Clothing. We're going to find out how well you know each other. Oh, no! Oh, no! Mr and Mr. Mr and Mr. Is this what these are for? Oh, God! Is this what these are for? No. Let me just get my head around this. Might be a while. Jamie's involved. Jamie's playing. Are we...? You've got to guess the answer. Actually, I'm asking these questions. No, this is the paddle. No, the paddles are after. Oh, so you've got to have one of each.

1:01:03No, the paddles are after. The paddles are after. OK. Do they not predict the answer? No, Dec, this is like Mr and Mrs. OK, Dec, what is Ant's date of birth and star sign? 18th of the 11th, 1975, Scorpio. Hey, Scorpio, not me. Do I have to answer back? Yeah. Why, have you got to give me the correct answer? Yeah. Yeah, he's right. Yeah, well, you've got to give... I've got to give Deck. Yes. OK, right. I'm just learning the rules of the game. He's the 25th of September 1975, and he's a Libra. Wow. Correct. And what is Deck's biggest fear? Birds, but specifically pigeons. Wow. Deck, what is Ant's biggest fear?

1:01:46It was spiders. It was spiders. But then you do amnesty for so long, it's like... Spiders? Exposure therapy. Yeah. You see so many of them. and yeah, we used to be spiders. Yeah. What is it now? Nothing. It's spiders. You're not scared of anything. It says spiders on there. It says spiders on there. Oh, there you go. But it's not. And what is Dex's son's middle name? Anthony. Anthony. Donnelly. The other name. There's another name. There's another one. Jack. Jack Anthony. Oh. No clues. No clues. What? Nearly. David. No. Alphonsus. Yay! What is Antson's middle name? Wilder Patrick. Well done. Yes.

1:02:36What is Ant's favourite three movies? Wow. When was this written? You got this one to smash hits. They are old ones, actually. They're old films. Oh, God. I don't know where to start with that.

1:02:57Erm... The Godfather? No. I don't know that. I bet one flew with the cookies. No. That's the best film ever. It says Die Hard. Die Hard. Yeah, I love Die Hard. Indiana Jones. Yeah, yeah. And Sexy Beast. Yeah, yeah. LAUGHTER Yeah? What are Dex's favourite movies? I don't know. These are old school. Pretty Woman, Miss Congeniality. LAUGHTER These are quite different, really. What am I? It says, Jaws. Jaws? Are you jogging? Pulp Fiction and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. That's what it says. This is from Smash Hits. Someone's just Googled this, haven't they? Yeah. Right. Last question. What was the name of Ant's school drama teacher who spotted his potential, put him forward for his first show, Why Don't You?

1:03:48Oh, what was the name? It was. Oh, my God. You put me on the spot now. I know. Go on. Lynn Spencer. Yes. Wow. Yes. Spencer. She was a continuity announcer on Tiny Tees. You know, I used to do the birthdays and stuff on TV. Nice. She did. She put us forward for it, because I love drama in her class, and I loved it, but I was too nervous to do any kind of audition or anything. She was the one that kind of pushed us. Brilliant. Yeah. If it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be doing it. According to Google, how many GCSEs did Deke get? Five. Five. What did you get? Three Bs and two Cs. Nice. In what? English Lit, English Language, RE, with me Bs, Maths and Economics, with me Cs.

1:04:34And you got five as well. A D in French. I got an E in French. Did you? It's terrible. That's brilliant. Right, this paddle thing. This paddle thing. I'm so excited. Here we go. We've all got a thing now. We have one each. We have a deck each. Yeah. I need an ant. Yeah, you need an ant. Where's an ant? I need an ant. You just need... Shane Pearson. You do say that, Jamie. If you put them together, Stephen will hurt. I've only got a dick. Give me an ant. I'll give you an ant. It's all you need, Ian. Thanks. Who are you missing? Ant. Ant. Right, here we go. No, I've got two here. Eight of these.

1:05:15What are you doing? He's got two dicks. You need one of eight. It's you. Right, OK, we've got to put a paddle up. You've got to decide the answers to the questions. Who is the bigger football fan? We've got to put our things up first. I'm going to say... Football fan. How do you get that when they're both massive fans? I'm going to go with that. I'm going to go with that, then. I'm going to go with that. There's no logic to it. I don't know how you decide that. You get more wound up when you get beef. I suppose you went to games before I did. Yeah. I didn't go until kind of a little bit later.

1:05:49You were there in the Glories under Jim Smith. Jim Smith, Aussie Ordealers, that's where I started. So maybe I'm a true fan. Who would you say watches the most and gets the most agitated? Erm... Well, I'll tell you who's the most statty. Like, he'll remember games and who do we play in the results. He remembers. He's a bit Ray Manning. Yes, that's good. That doesn't mean you're right, though. Yes, he does. You thought, all right, thought we could change. No. If it's the swear's the most during games, then it's me. So they're there for everyone. I thought we could change when we're totally asked.

1:06:21Who's the better presenter? Ooh! Go away, lads. Go away, lads. Have the goal. No, no, no, you can't separate. Well done, Ian. Oh, you can't. They're a team, they are one. Well, I don't know who you've just chosen, Dan.

1:06:40You can't separate them. It wouldn't work without being yourself. Do you know what I mean? Who's better, you or Phil? LAUGHTER I'll probably go with Phil. Who's the better footballer? Oh, Decker. Oh, sorry. No! I was going to go with Decker as well. Right, next one. Who's the better cook? So who's the better cook? I think I'm going to go with that. Yeah, he looks more like a chef. He's got a cook face. Yeah. A cook face? A happy face when he's cooking. I'm happy to tell you, you are all completely wrong. Absolutely right. Oh, God, you would never... Nev, give me that information. It's definitely me.

1:07:16Don't judge a book, babe. Cook well, cook for the family, the girls, the kids, yeah. Oh, wow. Is it like a therapeutic kind of thing? Yeah, I love it. Love it. Yeah, love cooking. Speciality? Anything that would involve kind of a long marinade, a nice five-spice rollback. Wow! Like a leg of lamb or something. Yeah, man. I love a leg of lamb. I've just learned how to use the air fryer. Very pleased with that. You've got a good cooked face. I believe you. Somebody said Dexter, I believe you would ship. I can see him in the outfit. So can I. Who is the first to say sorry after an argument? I'd definitely go this one.

1:07:55I don't know why. I'm going to go Ant.

1:08:05Probably this. I think it's you. Oh, really? Yeah. Cos he did something wrong. I've done Russell. Mostly he's at fault. Who is clumsier?

1:08:19I'm probably going to go with Ant again. Definitely know the answer to this. I feel like we're being harsh on Ant. I'm going Dec. I'll go Dec. Go with your instincts, chill. Yeah, be harsh on Ant. I've slipped on live telly loads of times. on Britain's Got Talent, fell on my arse, I'm a celebrity, I fall over a few times, slice the end of my thumb off. I've got loads of cuts and bruises, yeah, I'm very clumsy. That's the thing, he's a great cook, but you might find the end of his thumb in your dinner. Torenails. Torenails? Fingered nails. I don't mix with my toes.

1:08:54Unless I'm getting really... I really want a deep marinade in there. Who's the messiest? Oh, my God. Well, if he's... I'm going to go with Dex simply because... You've got to mix it up a little. You just like going the opposite of him. Yeah, but you know what? Chefs are quite messy, I think. Who's the messiest? Him. Thank you. Jesus, why am I not getting no credit for what I'm doing? I know these guys. I've been watching them for years. Well done Ian. Jeez. What, whilst they're like in the bedroom? Just watching them. I just feel them. I'm a sleeper, watch you while you're a sleeper. That's what we did to you.

1:09:32Yeah, exactly. How many years was it winning the presenters of the year? Was it 20 years? 23. You were robbed in the last one. Then the sub-star came along in Garry Lynn again. And sported a party for everyone. Do you know what? It was one of those things where we thought about it. After a while, when you go to the NTAs, and you'd won it for so many years in a row, the only thing people talked to you about was losing it. You're going to lose tonight? Tonight, tonight, you're going to lose it? They just enjoy it, Jesus Christ. And it got to the point even people would go, and the winner is, and they go...

1:10:08Cheers! You sat there in the front row and you're like, thanks a lot, everybody else took the shine off it, and we were like, we were still thrilled to win it, still thrilled to be even nominated after that many years. Consistency. Yeah, do you know what I mean? So, but we knew it was going to happen one day. Last one of these Who is the funnier?

1:10:32Yes, Gary You're a team You can't sit on the fence I am sitting on the fence I am as well Thanks Because the joke's back He just makes me laugh Just laughing He doesn't make me laugh Just laughing Who's the funnier? We can't judge that Exactly Thank you, Gary You can be the judge of that, Gary. Yeah, exactly. Oh, what a prick. Right. It was funnier in my house. Gary made... You know Poppy? Yeah. They tell Gary he's hilarious. I said, I will tell him. I'll tell him live. Which Gary? Oh, yeah, Gary Neville. This Gary. Did she not think we were going to do the rest of this football? LAUGHTER Because I did.

1:11:19LAUGHTER My deck's the funniest deck.

1:11:25Stick to Football is brought to you by Arn Clothing. Right, we've got a couple of questions. Ant, what is your favourite deck moment ever? And, Dec, what is your favourite Ant moment ever? Oh, my God. That's a good question. That's a very good question. Very deep, though. Very good question. Go deep, go deep. You can take these for your podcast. No, I know you put your specs on. How small is that writing? I know my favourite Ant moment ever. Go on, then. And it's fairly recent, but I think it's one that will stick with me. It's when Ant took a bit of time out to get himself together. He had a little bit of time away off telly, but that moment we came back together was just...

1:12:12That will always stick with me and remind me how brilliant it was and how lucky I am to get to do this job alongside me. Oh, mate. Beautiful, beautiful. And exactly the same. Exactly the same for me. You know, to be able to take that time out and get a reset and a new perspective on your life and, you know, have a real new gratitude for everything that you do. But then to come back and your mate's there and then you just kick on and carry on how you left off. Because that's what true friendship is. You know, we don't judge one another. You just get on with it. Support them, man. Yeah, love it.

1:12:49Love each other. Love that, love that. LAUGHTER I'm just hoping that these two will last as long as... LAUGHTER Because it's like every week on here, it's going to end up... I was going to ask another question, but that feels like the right moment to end. It's a beautiful moment to end. I genuinely love coming on. Thank you for coming, man. Thank you for coming. Love it. I love it. I love you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Pleasure. Brilliant. And continue the success. Because when we watch it, we listen to it. Thank you. Thank you very much. Gary, I'll tell Poppy that you said you love. That was brilliant.

1:13:24Can I just say as well what an honour it is to be here with you guys. Absolute legends, all of you. And as football fans, it's a real thrill to be here chatting with you. Thank you. I think I only spoke to you for a second. Thank you so much. You were like, I listened to the overlap. I was like, listen to the overlap. See you in the jungle in December. Yes. Yeah, O.C. Them three, get them three on now.

1:13:54I want my paddles signing. I collect things. Should I do the face, yeah? On the face? Yeah. I do collect mad things. Do mine as well. Do it for the girls. Roy, righty. Why don't you get them to sign the paddles and you can give them to... The girls. Give them to someone. LAUGHTER You can give up to someone. Seriously. Look at that. It's quite a big name. LAUGHTER Seriously. Anyone who'll have this. MUSIC PLAYS

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