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1:46Gary Neville: So this jumper, 12 months ago, youngish woman, say mid-30s, husband had a cardiac arrest and passed during a football match. So she set up this, yeah, so she set up this clothes company called Able Made around football and the heart. It's basically a husband's heart. and unbelievably she's done four million dollars of revenue in year one for a business so she's literally had this trauma in her life she's down in reception and me and Roy bought jumpers and hoodies off her she's just raised two million dollars to take it sort of throughout America to raise awareness for cardiac arrests in foot in sport and football yes Ian how are you tired Why are you tired?

2:41Gary Neville: Because you know why you're tired? I know why you're tired. No, no, it's nothing to do with that.

2:44Ian Wright: Why?

2:45Gary Neville: I saw you with a jug of picante last night on a rooftop. And you're now this morning gone under on us. Is that true?

2:55Ian Wright: I can't stop drinking that picante.

2:58Gary Neville: You can't stop drinking picante.

3:00Ian Wright: I ordered one when I had half left there. I didn't eat. I could have felt like I was struggling.

3:04Gary Neville: As I left you, I thought you've had about a gallon of picante.

3:08Ian Wright: I like Picanti

3:09Gary Neville: what is it? Picanti I don't even know

3:12Ian Wright: what good spirit is in it do you know what it is?

3:14Gary Neville: it's a fancy drink for fancy people that come from the south of England

3:21Gary Neville: it's not it's something that if you actually if you ordered it in Manchester you'd get like a you know what I mean you'd get like a punch under the you'd get headlocked and punched if you ordered Picanti in Manchester they'd be going like Picanti what's that? what's that?

3:37Ian Wright: i don't know what the um the spirit is in it do we know what the spirit is in it because

3:41Gary Neville: i found out i think it's tequila it's tequila or rum i might be wrong now but i just like this

3:48Ian Wright: like the sharpness of the pepper in it it's made it it's made it it's tequila there you go you see

3:55Gary Neville: and i'm telling you right this jug was that big and by the way there wasn't just one drug there was two drugs there were two drugs i didn't really drink in my career but you're making

4:07Ian Wright: up for it now what's it called yeah i just think that being on my own this long is just it's just it's ridiculous i'm like a child i can't sleep unless i speak to my missus can i go to i got a sleep story i have to have a sleep story to go to bed otherwise i don't need something to focus on i like this you know the white noise and the sound of the sea or a new york like just like the noise of like new or the street and then I could sleep look at Ian's jacket cool in it see my like all the lads you know what I love about this jacket is that I got into this squad after they come back from the World Cup I was about to go to this but what I was meant to go to this night in night but like you made that jacket in I don't know what it is I can't remember just just just

4:51Gary Neville: sorts it out for me who is it oh yeah yeah nice it's cool though yeah all of these I love them you just can't work out what you do me zips though can you

5:01Ian Wright: Well, to be honest, I like it like, yeah, but like, I just wear it like that. So, because when you sit down, you know, so, because when you sit down, it rolls up. It goes all weird. Why do you host this morning? Because I've been drinking fucking... LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

5:17Gary Neville: So, yesterday morning, I was at breakfast with Karen Carney. Yeah. And Zidane's walked through the hotel twice now, and she's just, like, she's desperate to get a picture. And I said, right, this is it. Right, he's over there. he sat there in the din sedan i said you're going to go over you said my name's karen i used to play for england women's team i'd love a picture with you it was yes roy oh it's a bit cozy yeah

5:47Gary Neville: what's he said to casso karen goes over to zizu and she based there and he's i can see him smiling and she goes like that and she's a lovely picture herself with him i'll get He's got a beautiful picture between Karen and Zidane. He walked past us twice. He walked past you over the morning and you went, Ah, yeah.

6:08Ian Wright: Yeah, you shook his hand. Yeah, shook his hand, yeah. Of course he said. Do I know you from somewhere?

6:13Gary Neville: He knows you from somewhere. I'm not sharing with you. Solid. But Zidane is like a bit of a... He is, isn't he? Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. This is Zizou and Karen. That's lovely. That's lovely. You got it? He was a great player. Absolutely. Magnificent. I think he was at Bordeaux, wasn't he? And he was a bit like heavy in his body. He was like quite, like build was heavy. And all of a sudden he goes to Juventus and he just, he's like, you see him now. Because United were trying to get him, aren't I? Remember everyone was to chat about him and he was come to United.

6:44Ian Wright: Yeah, he did look, when you, I remember when Patrick and, when they talk about it, they talked about him like, it was lauded. Like a God. You know, they'd always start a conversation. I've seen the things in that. Oh. Was it Bordeaux? Was it Bordeaux?

6:59Gary Neville: Bordeaux. Could be right. Was Zidane at Bordeaux? Yeah, with Duguri. Duguri, yeah. Do you know, because of what's happened with Ronaldo and Messi, and the Brazilian Ronaldo gets mentioned, he very rarely gets mentioned as one of the greatest of all time. Who's Zidane? So do you think about... We always say Cruyff or Maradona, Pelé, you always say Messi, Ronaldo. Zidane has kept into that.

7:20Ian Wright: I don't know. I think he's just underneath. He's close. You don't put him up there. So what differentiates him not being amongst him when he's won everything like that? Not me. I would put him up there. Yeah, I know. I get it. Because, like...

7:32Gary Neville: It's like Figo. Figo and Zidane, you think they don't get put up...

7:36Ian Wright: No, no, no. Figo's not... You don't think Figo's the same... Great player, but, like, I think Zidane's... Maybe. Yeah. Figo. Even though I think Figo's documentary is still the best documentary I've ever seen. I'm not seeing it. Well, you've got to watch... Do you know what? Can I tell you something? I get... It's got everyone in it. All protagonists. But you get fed up with these documentaries. We're getting brainwashed by documentaries. You're going to watch this? Yeah, remember, it was about the Galacticos and the start of the Galacticos. Well, what do I need, truthfully, what do we need to watch to kind of learn from that?

8:04Ian Wright: Watch about who, like, you know what I... Yeah, but, like, when I watched it, because of the fact that when that happened, it's like, my God, he's leaving Barcelona, he's going there. And then you've got a situation where we can find out everything. And everybody was involved in it, Roy. This is what I say to you to watch. I've told you before. The same with the same... But who's everybody? You mean agents? You're like, like, the agents. Everybody who's had something to do with it is in the... The deal. It's in the show. So you can get answers from everybody in the end. So I don't want to give anything away, but...

8:36Ian Wright: Oh, but tell us to... You know who the bad guy is. Tell us what. If you don't document it? No, because you need to watch it. You know who initiated everything. Why does it have to be a bad guy? It's not even a bad guy, then. Maybe it's the wrong word, but you know who initiated everything, who wanted this to happen. The president or something like that? No. Or what are you talking to your mates? Figo's. You've got me intrigued. You've got to watch it because I need you to watch it so you can see we come to the same conclusion, Roy. I'm sure we will. Ian, are you talking about the transfer from Barcelona to Madrid?

9:04Gary Neville: Yeah. So who made that happen, you mean? Yeah, and how it happened, how it came about. I was one of his teammates. Was there a twist in this?

9:10Ian Wright: Oh, no, no. And who's... What's the name of the guy? How much did he go for, Roy? He was a crazy money at the time.

9:15Gary Neville: Yeah, it was... Ian, tell us the answer because I'm not going to watch this documentary. I'm not going to watch it.

9:20Ian Wright: Tell us, we're not going to watch it. No, that's lazy. I'm not going to watch. This is, we're football people, and that is one of the, that is a seminal moment for football and what happened with the Galacticos. Yeah, but we're not going to watch the documentary, so we want the story. The story is the Barcelona captain leaving Barcelona to go to their biggest rivals in Real Madrid, and they start the Galacticos. Why do I need to tell you more than that? There's so much on that already. Who's the bad guy? What's this bad guy thing, though? I don't want to tell you the bad guy. It's not a bad guy.

9:47Ian Wright: There has to be a bad guy. But why don't you want to tell us? Because you have to watch it. yourself so as then when we speak about it then we can all have a different what if we threaten yeah we're not going to let you leave the room you grab him and i yeah i don't care i've had that before my brothers used to do that to me all the time i can have a spoon i will i will i will watch it right here honestly i'm desperate for you to watch so he was the first he was the first galactico is that right and it all started from that i didn't know that much to be fair i knew that was he the first glass that's right well when you watch it you'll see okay so this is what I'm saying like instead of saying us like coming back with stupid retort you watch it and you'll be able to say something real substance the cantis made you really angry this it's not made me angry I drank too much of it though on last night yeah I drank too much yeah you're a bit tipsy I'm not tipsy I wasn't tipsy you know I mean I liked I liked well I carried like I carried it to your room do you remember that I was walking around I'm walking around looking for soup no I always I used to class it when I used to drink I saw his class as a bad night with I remember getting home Just know it is I don't I don't really drink that much and it's like it's just it was a nice set in It was a it was a nice the drink was nice and cold is lovely was amongst people two minutes away nice ambience Yeah, I felt really good.

11:01Ian Wright: And even when I wasn't when I went to bed I wasn't like oh god room spinning, you know, I mean, it's just like I feel really nice

11:07Gary Neville: The worst feeling ever in the room I put you to out the bed The worst one for me is when you go to the toilet, when you had a drink, if you've drunk too much, and your head just falls towards the wall. You know that one?

11:19Ian Wright: Just the one where you just butt the wall. The thing I like when you go, I like when people have been drinking, you go in the toilet and you see someone holding the wall.

11:29Ian Wright: That's the holding the wall is the best one. God almighty, it's brilliant. Happy days, huh?

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11:58Gary Neville: How many of that 1990 team that is on Ian's jacket get into this current team? And you have a choice of a strike, you think. If he gets one chance, he's going to put it away. Who will it be? I'd go to the Unicom. Wow. Wow. You did drink a lot last night. It's a stealth advertising break, isn't it? It is, girl. We're in America, right? So it's like, it is, it's a time out. And the rules are meant to speed the game up. What's this doing? It's stopping the floor of the game. 0-0 is not a bad draw for the back four, but if it's a 2-2 and we've made mistakes at the back, that would be a problem.

12:31Ian Wright: When I saw that team sheet come out of Brazil, I was thinking, I'm not afraid of them. They don't have that no more. I don't think Scotland should be in their mindset going, We've got our three points now. Could we get through a three point? No, no, no. I think you can get results against Morocco and Brazil. I really do.

12:50What day is it? How long have we been here, by the way? We've been here now. It gets to that point where you just forget. You forget. Yeah, today I feel it's been... Roy, six days. It feels long. Today feels long. You know what I mean? Do you know why? Because England haven't... It feels like...

13:04Ian Wright: The tunnel hasn't kicked off yet. No, he doesn't feel that. I just feel so excited. I've got such a vibe. Do you think it's because we're so close to everything? The whole house around the corner. I don't know if we're in a great place. The hotel is lovely. But the studio just there feels a bit. Do you think we're too close? I don't know. You'd like to have somewhere where we can... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to think, but it just feels a bit... I woke up tomorrow night, do you know? How cool is that? I'm homesick today. I miss my family, my dog, and my own mug, and my own bowl of cereal.

13:36you know every morning I'm going home for breakfast and engaging with people it's tiring isn't it no it is well it's not normal is it when you sit at home you're in your own kitchen on your own

13:45Gary Neville: everyone's engaging with you I went to Starbucks this morning at 6 o 'clock I just had to get out I was a little bit the same I thought you know yeah yeah just a bit of you time yeah I was watching Starbucks over there I do like Brooklyn oh I love Brooklyn do you know something so I was thinking New York for 6 weeks I've had some bad experiences I was Everyone says it's amazing, it's amazing, and I'm just not having it at all. And then Brooklyn, which I changed my mind. Same here. We love Brooklyn. Lived in. Beautiful place.

14:14Ian Wright: When you say you like Brooklyn, why do you like Brooklyn? There's a nice energy to it. There's a nice calmness. And everybody seems so friendly and everybody's so cool. It just feels nice. There's an energy, girl. You don't feel like you have anything.

14:28Gary Neville: It reminds me of Sowa in London or the northern quarter of Manchester. No, Sowa, no. A bit like the brick and the industrial mills. Yeah, there's a bit of that. You know what I like about it? No one's walking around with a suit on. It's a big thing, you know. If you think about it, if you go over there to the other side of the river, everyone's walking around quick with suits on. Slay it back. Slay it back here, yeah. Whereas here, everyone's just walking around. This gives me East London kind of energy, this one. I love the idea as well. When we eat at the restaurant, walking back in a nice evening, you know what I mean?

14:59not in your pit. I love wearing shorts. I'd wear shorts every day.

15:03Ian Wright: Gary tight pants. I had to tie pants. Roy made me walk... It was right for us to walk home, though, that night, wasn't it? It was perfect. That's exactly when you walk back. You've had a nice... You had a before pizzas, so you walk it off. Roy made me walk back 50 minutes with pants on. It's not 50 minutes. It wasn't 50 minutes. And your pants... Even Rydy, Rydy's not great physically, are you, with your knee? And he walked back. He was delighted. and it was nice, and it was a nice temperature, gal. You know what I mean? It was just nice. It's a lovely meal. It's really great, Gal, to be here because, you know, I've been to Miami, is it West Coast, West Palm Beach, sorry, and it don't feel lived in.

15:38Ian Wright: It's like empty. It's like 28 days later, you can go out and just walk. It's empty. And you come in and it's a lived in place, you know what I mean, with people, like the business, everything that's happening. It just feels real. It just feels real, like London.

15:52Gary Neville: I've never been to places in America that I've really liked and I think I must have been to the wrong places and I think it's absolutely that because in the last month I've been to two places that I love Napa Valley in California and she's like rolling hills was gone under green it was a went to a vineyard like an event vineyards in all my time you've been hiking or something but a vineyard was that tasting wine it was wow yeah tough life huh Wow unbelievable and then Brooklyn is the opposite of that industrial Mills I'd so two place I've been changed my mind wine taste and huh yeah a little bit of a player man you've made progress was that what you set that off area hey wine tasting just truck is that what you like spitting it out and all that no not spitting it how I drink it are you just a little bit of drink yeah you didn't put we in the grapes and stamping all the grapes no no no we're doing that no we just we're getting the story though the vineyard about how they sort of have and you know something they were talking about the temperature and everything and then there's one point this wine was it was the um the the point where they the main guy the master sommelier yeah the master he has to pick the point where literally a lot of people from the local village or town come in and they have to pick them within 24 hours and they have to get them the timing right timing it's like the perfection of actually the time it was like there's an art to it.

17:16Gary Neville: Pick what? The timing. So basically they're not too ripe and they're not too got, you know, it's like the absolute. And what, they use the people

17:22Ian Wright: from the town to taste it? So they're the experts?

17:25Gary Neville: No, they use the people from the town to actually pick them. So you obviously got these acres of vines. So you can imagine that they need people to come in and put them. And how old is the guy who decides, is he like experienced? I know he's 40. He's done it since he was young. This is one of the best vineyards in America. Wow. Really interesting. Yeah, he's like experienced. He was brilliant. He was. And then they take you down to what other barrels are now. It's a bit of an education. Not as interesting. I do like that.

17:47Ian Wright: Once you get into stuff like... Because it's not something you say, oh, I wouldn't do that. But if I went somewhere and saw that, because of the passion that they have for it, you get involved with it. I don't know. I went on a tour in Cork a few years ago to the Middleton whiskey place.

18:00Gary Neville: Oh, it's expensive, that stuff, isn't it? Yeah, but the factory, they show you all the barrels. Oh, this is interesting. Absolutely, really interesting. The whiskey, Middleton Rare, beautiful stuff. I thought I was drinking it, but the bottles looked... You invested in it, weren't you? So a guy told me that you've got some rare... Don't worry about that. This taxi driver, right? I was in Dublin, and this guy said... It's always a taxi driver. They've got all this inside information. I didn't tell them nothing. Them and barbers. Roy's got some rare investment grade whiskey. What was he? This taxi driver.

18:34Famous Irish saying, believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. Right? But was it true? Believe half.

18:42Ian Wright: I don't know why you're there and I have for what you see. This taxi driver. But how would he know that? He said you've been to the Middleton... Yeah, because somebody obviously seems in there and then they've told somebody and told somebody.

18:55Gary Neville: If someone from, what's it called, Middleton whiskey, if someone could just send us a bottle for the show, for the set, please, so we can have just, you know, a little taste of Roy's whiskey. No, don't send any of my stuff, yeah. You've got a little bit there. Oh, I did, yeah, I'm not going to deny you, yeah. How many barrels have you got? Barrels? How many bottles have you got? Just a couple. It's a couple.

19:21You know what I love about him? I'm going to kill that taxi driver when I see him.

19:25Ian Wright: He's about to have got me from a vineyard, isn't he? You can always tell when Roy something happens, cos he can't hide. He can't hide at his face. Is that the end of the show?

19:33Gary Neville: He'll be going on my relationship break-up next.

19:37Ian Wright: I love it. I'll be down for... I did like that yesterday. We can't talk about that, we get too much stick for that. We were chatting yesterday about players losing a bit of form. You know you've got two spells in your career. Never happened to me. But the lads were saying it. And Nev was saying, you weren't in the room, weren't you? No, not in the room when he said it. We were at the table, weren't we? Yeah, but when it originally happened yesterday, he says, I had six months on the back of the yore or whatever. And he says, I was going through relationship issues. Wow.

20:10Gary Neville: Wow. It's because I had such a great captain at the time I could go and speak to him about it. You couldn't speak to him. I'm like, what are you talking about? Get over it. But you know what, a full-back's going through a relationship, Bishop. You can still stop crosses, you know what I mean? That shouldn't stop you closing a winger down. Oh, my girlfriend, she broke up with me, obviously she got her right side back. I mean, she's got... Her right side back. You still stop crosses. That shouldn't affect you. Oh, it was such a brutal ending as well. Was it a girl? Yeah. Was it you or was it her?

20:41Gary Neville: It was her, mainly. Seriously. As Bob Dylan once said, you can't be in love and wise at the same time. Nice one. Nice one. Eh? So, her loss? Yeah. She could have been in California a few weeks ago tasting wine. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And United would have played better for six months. It's the journey, girl. Yeah, exactly. It's the journey. Do you know something? It's true. Has anything ever impacted? this is by the way this is just me riffing has anything ever impacted your football that hasn't come from when you lost confidence or you weren't informed what was it that caused it? That's a good question isn't it?

21:21No it is but I think Do you think about it right? You've had times where Yeah but when I think of sports people I see a lot of sports people or people in the public when they've had issues or whatever and they've got to go to work or play sport a lot of them said the easiest place to be is on the pitch Yes it was more I found out if I had stuff going I'm going to be like disciplinary stuff or whatever doing stuff you shouldn't have been I still found being out on the pitch the kind of easiest place to be

21:47Gary Neville: you say that Roy do you know something when I think of some of the situations that lads were going through that we knew about and then they were still playing I used to think how the fuck are you doing that and I wasn't about relationship issues by the way no no no you think about it and he hears that a lot of people have said it but their safety kind of blanket

22:04Ian Wright: was out on the football pitch wasn't it Yeah, but for that little time. But I remember I went through a few, obviously, some stories and papers and that. And then you've got to build up the whole week and then you've got to play the game. And then after the game, you know, leading into it, when you actually get on the pitch, yes, you do have a moment where you have that 90 minutes where you kind of forget it. But, like, there is moments in the game where you still think about, fucking when I come off, what's going to happen? Yeah.

22:29Gary Neville: Honestly, I went through that a few times because I had a couple of bad ones. But you're something right here. I pride myself on no distractions, literally, for that few months. I was thinking, my relationship break-up broke into my mind during matches, and I thought, oh, I'm done here. I never think about anything like that. While you was on the picture foot? Yeah. I remember playing a Champions League game away, like a February or... I can't remember where we were playing, and thinking, oh, my God, I'm thinking about, like, literally, you know what I mean, what's going on in, like... You imagine when you break up, it's never a simple break-up to seven years, is it?

23:00Gary Neville: You're like, it's messy texts and all that crap, isn't it? for like, and she's texting you during the day, and you're texting her, and it's all that crap, and it just goes into the game. No.

23:13The football actually helps. Come and speak to me, I'm serious. Just say, Roy, I've got some issues, can we have a chat? Yeah, I'm going to listen.

23:21Ian Wright: There's no way to...

23:24Gary Neville: What, at that time? Yeah, I'll throw a piss, Roy Keane. I know. I'm not going to name names now, because I think it wouldn't be right, but you think sometimes now of like, when you're talking about England players that have been left out and people say, look, you're weird, don't we? In the last few weeks, they're struggling, they've got things going on in their private lives and you think, that's why they've been left out and you just think... Yeah, but isn't part of the challenge, I think, when you're playing sport, obviously we can only talk about sport, it happens to other people, part of the challenge is leave Dan at the door when you go to training.

23:54It has to be. It's hard, right? Of course it's hard, I'm not saying it's... Because that's part of the challenge, being a sports person, you've got to deal with these challenges or an injury or contract, you're going, you're still in the zone. Yeah, but Roy, when you, yeah, but you said, because, you know, there's an example here a few years ago, sometimes a young player, remember Luke Chadwick, remember Chadwick? Yes, yes. Remember, oh gosh, yeah. And years later, Chad's done a story where it was really, it affected him. Yeah, yeah. When, what was that programme? They were like, really criticising it.

24:18In a dressing room, like, we should have picked up and all that. Yeah. But you don't because you've got a game coming up or you're on the back of a defeat or a win and you end up like in the dressing room could look at it yourself a little bit sometimes you get yourself through your own battles

24:32Ian Wright: yeah but Roy when you've got when a piece goes in the paper and it's not a good one and everybody knows like all the players you go in the train it's fucking horrible sometimes then you turn into it rightly or wrongly you turn into a bit of banter in the dressing room don't you well sometimes that kind of does help that does help yeah a little bit yeah but even Chad

24:50Gary Neville: doesn't help when you turn up to England and Gazza knows fuck you know Joe my view on it was you think about it imagine you're just let's take England fans they spent thousands coming over here right and then United fans or Arsenal fans or River fans they spend hundreds of pounds to come and watch their team play weekly and they're coming in 75 ,000 at Old Trafford you can't take your stuff onto the pitch and lose a football match because they're paying you it's like I can't go on with an excuse imagine after the game I had a relationship breakup boss Roy you know I mean that's why I've not played well today fans you know I mean they're going to go hang on a minute we've got to win We don't care that we've got to win.

25:26Gary Neville: You know what I mean? It's like... To be honest, I don't care.

25:29Ian Wright: I totally accept that they don't care. Totally accept that. It doesn't make it easier.

25:33Gary Neville: No, they don't care, but you can't use it as an excuse. Of course you can't use it as an excuse. Manchester United can't not win a league or Arsenal can't not win a league because of someone's relationship breakup. As an example, I mean, I'm using a ridiculous example here. Or because two or three players have had issues at home.

25:49Ian Wright: You know what I mean? It's like... It's like... Yeah, but the thing... When it was happening with me, all the stuff, then people say, oh look how he's playing, oh he's not the same, he's not playing the same, oh he's missing chances because he's thinking about that, because remember it's all well over the papers, and it's like oh what's up and you're just trying to just focus on that, just trying to be, just stay in it, but like when the ball's down there and of course you're focusing on the game, but it's still in your head. But is it harder then for what position you're in the pitch, like a striker, a lot of your stuff would have been instinct, wouldn't it?

26:15That's the thing. You're a full back, you know jokes like I'm a midfielder, would affect people in different ways, was yours more about concentration, yours is instinct, yours is positioning, yours is about timing, I score a goal, but yours is about sharpness, so if you're off it, if you're off it, you can spot it a mile away,

26:30Ian Wright: and then you're missing a chance, he's got things on his mind,

26:34Gary Neville: mine was a consistent, concentration, because to be fair, the boss, to be fair, was one thing, concentrate, I don't think he said one word, more than concentration, to defenders anyway, and I felt like, concentration was everything, assessing your position, where you are, all the time, at every point in the game. I'm sure every player does that. But your distances of like, am I in there? You're constantly assessing your position. Midfield is a little bit more hand forward. If you're five yards out of position or two yards out of position in the box, no one can say you're out of position. As a defender, everyone knows when you're two yards or a one yard out of position.

27:07Gary Neville: You're a little bit too far out, you're not far enough in, or you're too far in and you're not far enough out, or you're too far back. Like Van de Ven played on the Japanese goal yesterday, I know he's two yards out of position. Whereas as an attacker, it's like, should he have been across the near post there? Could he have done this? As a midfield, but that's where the sharpness comes into it. If he's not looking sharp, you would spot the, not the two yards, but you go... Also, with him to take the sharpness. Yeah, yeah, like not taking a touch and shoot. He might take two touches. You go, he doesn't look himself.

27:35We won't sit up with strikers going, he's taking too many touches, he's taking too long. Whereas the top lads, when you're on top form, you go, wow, he looks sharp, doesn't he? He's not even hesitating. Again, it's instinct.

27:45Gary Neville: What about off the back of this little chat about Jill last week doing what she did and then she posts out that she lost her nana on the Tuesday and she carries on.

27:52Ian Wright: You know something, it was, can you imagine, I remember I had to do one of those with Jeff Thomas and it was for cancer and stuff. When you're riding and you're riding for that reason and you're thinking about it, you're thinking I've got to keep doing this, I've got to make sure I get this done for them, she's battling. She's doing that and her nan passed, you know, it's like, again, Jill's strength, because everybody sees Jill and she's full of life and full of fun, you know what she's like, she loves everything. I just, it made me so sad to know that she was on that bike. She was doing that and how painfully, when she got off the bike, you see when she got, you could see it was pain.

28:23Ian Wright: I just like, I just felt very emotional for her. You know what I mean? And what she went through. She's an amazing woman. She is so amazing. People don't realise how amazing she is. Jill. God, we love you so much, Jill. And we know that, but she doesn't need to go on a bike ride to know that. No. It's just because she's a, yeah. She's a special woman. She's a special woman. She's a special woman. Yeah, she's a special woman. Hey, she must be in bits now, though. I bet you see the bits where she can't walk. I think the cycling, I think when you're... And I don't think she's done much training for it.

28:53So if you're cycling, I think you... I don't think you get away with the cycling, but the running... Roll your ass after you've cycled. What is that?

28:59Ian Wright: If you've not practised it, the aching of the rest is talking about sores. I think the running would be... If you're not used to training, I don't think she's done loads of training for it. Oh, gosh. So I think the running... I just imagine it. The running would be a bit horrible. Did she do 38 miles in one day? Yeah. It's not easy, that. That's amazing. How much did she raise? Anyone know? Any idea? It was over 100 ,000, wasn't it? It was way more than that. Did you say 100? Way more than that. How much did Jill raise? Do we know? Can we find out?

29:31Gary Neville: Let's find out what Jill is. Oh, it was way more than 100 ,000. Let's have a coffee break. I'm going to say a four, five, five. Are these the snacks that we're going to get on set? Yeah, I'll bring them on later. How much? I think we bring... Half a million. Did you raise half a million quid? Half a million quid. Oh my god, Jill.

29:47Ian Wright: 500, over half a million, brilliant. 524 ,000? That is unbelievable. We should round it off to 525 for a second.

29:59Sky Bet will donate another£1 ,000. No, we will. I've got a few dollars here in my pocket. Shopping, we've not done much shopping, have we? That was a nice start for sure, wasn't it?

30:15Ian Wright: I was still working. You lot were when I was young. Who dodged us the other day? Oh, yeah, yeah. Do you know what Wright is like? God. You know what Wright is like? You're a decent guy, don't get me wrong. Is this... He's a striker.

30:30Gary Neville: Yeah, that's the word. Smith's a striker. I'm not a striker. A bit of snide, right? He's basically, right, so... Wright has gone to these vintage shops. Vintage. We've asked to go to the vintage shops with him. What did I tell you what the vintage shop was like? After you came back. Thank you. I could have judged it myself. Talk, talk. You wouldn't have liked it. Do you know what I mean? I would have liked a little trip to the vintage shop. You know something, I had to do that.

30:53Ian Wright: I had to do that, but like, YouTube went, when you knew I was on, I was on the TV, why did you go then and you know I wanted to come with you? You just blew me out. You could have done it on the day. That was after you went to the vintage shop. So you were just paying back. It's paying back, all right. So can we just get back to normal now? Are we going somewhere this afternoon? Are we going to do that thing? I'm easy, you know what I mean? Are we going to do that thing? What thing? What's my middle name? Low maintenance. I'll do anything. Roy Low Maintenance. I have Low Maintenance. Anyone who works with me will tell you that.

31:22Ian Wright: Roy LM. I am. I'm not having that. I'm not sneaky. It's just I had to do something with the girls.

31:29Gary Neville: Roy was texting you and he wasn't getting replies back. I felt a bit sorry for him to be fair. I was like, where is he? I'll see you for an hour. No, we need, do you know what? We need that distance as well. We can't all be on top of each other.

31:44Ian Wright: Look how long we are. Look how long we're going to be together. I think we've seen each other all the time, though. I'm disappointed I didn't get to come shopping with you, because you've got some really cool pants and I really like what you got. You know what I mean? I didn't have no input. I had my personal shopper with me. Who was it? Gary? Was he doing all the... Let me see how long they are. I was with me, Mum and Dad. Turn around. I actually said to him once, I said, does my bum look big indeed? Turn around. Yeah, you need a small...

32:10Gary Neville: Ian, right, he's got these pants on, right, he comes out, and you can imagine, I like my pants a bit longer, don't I? Yes, yes, too long, actually. The guy's pulling his pants up, and I'm saying, I think I'm a bit short, mate. Sounds a bit dodgy, that, yeah. Are they not a bit short, mate? He went, no, no, they sat on his shoe. I went, no, no, but he just needs a little bit more.

32:26Ian Wright: Gary, while we're talking about it, your pants are too long. You keep saying that... I'm too tight, lady, isn't I? The other, he's tight, Gary tight pants, the other way he's walking back. You were like Ross in French, remember? He wore them leather pants, like that. Ian. Gareth, they're too long. I'm not even talking about where you can see your socks, but you just need a little bit more.

32:45Gary Neville: If I was walking around and my pants were flying up in the air, they were like this far, an inch off my strainer's, I'd be like, oh. That's right, honestly.

32:53Ian Wright: When we was younger, people used to say, you're sweating the flood. I'm there. The stupidest thing. But Gareth, you had some pants on the other day. It's a nice half. Pants are far too long. Especially the linen. But, Ian, that's why I wanted to come shopping with you, so that you could help me, but you didn't invite me? Well, we've got plenty of time. Some really cool shops. Yeah. I want to go to some more vintage shops. That one went bad. I'm not a lover of shopping, but I did like that shop where you could just breed and people let you alone. But again, see, with that vintage shop, they didn't let you breed.

33:24Ian Wright: It was in your face right from the start. They were swearing. And, like, the guy was so rude. I told you, when I picked up that, I was just walking around, I was picked up the fan, and I said, hey, buddy, that's far too small for you to put that back. And you looked at it, it was like, I didn't say anything. And then, but I told you. Was it Joe Pesky in there? Was it? But then what happened was, a guy came in with a Liverpool shirt on. Yeah, but you needed Roy to break the ice with him. That's why you couldn't break the ice with him. But then all of a sudden, then all of a sudden, he's starting to go.

33:54Ian Wright: Because the guy wanted to take a picture of me. Then another lady came in. Her dad's an arsehole person. And then all of a sudden, all the guys in there, the shoppers, was like, hey, hey, hey, buddy, what are you doing? What do you do? What do you do? And I was like, fuck off. And I just left. We just left, but you wouldn't have liked it. You wouldn't have liked that shop. All right, so you're not going back. I'm not going back to that shop. No, we'll find another one. There'll be better ones than that.

34:18Gary Neville: This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet. Right, so we've got... This is the 1990 World Cup team, right? We picked the starting 11 last week, didn't we, for the England team. How many of that 1990 team that is on Ian's jacket get into this current team? I've just made it up as we go on, so I need a pen. I need a pen. Yeah, but there's no rush on here. No, take our time. We'll take our time. Sorry, mate.

34:49Ian Wright: I can't get to see it myself. Look, I can see it in that camera. I think Shilton gets in goal, doesn't he?

34:53Gary Neville: Wow, he does. Let's just go. So we've got... Take your time. What was the rush? Have you got a big piece of paper? We're going to pick the team. Goalkeeper, we've got Peter Shilton or Jordan Pickford. Shilton's got a going half thing. Pickford's on well for England, hasn't he? Yeah, but for England, all right, it generally goes... Who would be in goal? Who would you pick? Peter Shilton or Jordan Pickford in goal? You know what? Did you play with Shilton? Yeah, but I played... Was he that good, like, training or was he that brilliant? Was this a back three, by the way, though? Did they play a back three?

35:24Ian Wright: When I got in there, he was in there. My first squad, he was in there and a couple of squads, he was in there. But then it was Chris Woods. You know something? Jordan Pickford...

35:32Gary Neville: I give you the ball and the goalkeeper. I think, I mean, Shilton's probably the highest cap maker of all time. That's the thing, he's got 125 caps. Yeah, but Pickford's going to go past that, isn't he? Pickford's on a... How many caps does Pickford have? John's got 84 caps. How many has Peter Shilton got? 125. 125? He'd go past that. He'd go past that unless he got injured. Pickford. Do you want to go Pickford? I think he's been in more finals.

35:56Ian Wright: Has he been in more finals than him?

35:58Gary Neville: Well, forget caps for a second. Who's a better goalkeeper? You played with him so you can make this decision. You've seen enough of them.

36:04Ian Wright: Yeah, but I haven't played with Shilton Pickford, I haven't.

36:07Gary Neville: No, but you've seen him, but I think... Have you lost a few bats in training? You know, when you're going through against Shilton... Was he a great keeper? Was he a good bloke? Did you get on with him? What's Pickford like? Seaman. Better than Seaman, no? Seaman better than Shilton? For me, yeah. I'd go Seaman. Seaman would have been... But I'm biased because I've played with him.

36:22Ian Wright: Seaman would have been for me.

36:23Gary Neville: Shilton or Pickford, he's done you. Go on. Yeah. Pickford. Pickford. Pickford's in goal. Ooh, you get in trouble for that one? Let him come, let him come, let him come. OK, left back, Nico O 'Reilly or Stuart Pearce? Don't even hesitate.

36:39Ian Wright: Stuart Pearce. Stuart Pearce. That's only because Nico's not got himself there. Exactly, of course. There's time for him, obviously.

36:44Gary Neville: I need you just to pull your jacket up, because I think we play five in the back of that team. That's the only problem. We've got Paul Parker right back. So I'm just going to go... Was he not wing-back then? Passed. Parks is such a good difference. You've got three cents back. Yeah, I did. Three centre halves, yeah. That's the problem we've got here. But we'll have to fudge it. Yeah. OK, right back, you've got Rhys James or Paul Parker.

37:03Ian Wright: Well, you play with Paul, but if I'm talking about, if we're talking about how good the player is, I think Rhys James is a better... Rhys James is a better football player.

37:10Gary Neville: Football, Parker's the one.

37:10Ian Wright: Parker's the one, unbelievable. I think I'd go Rhys James. Three size, isn't he? Yeah, but... James? I like Parks as well, but James on his day. Do I have to actually stay like this, or can I just put my... It's kind of good exercise. It's true, you know what? That's the one I'm doing at the moment. doing one of those as well in a minute um center halves so there's walkers got to be in there

37:28Gary Neville: whatever happens you'd have there's so you've got gay and konza or you've got gay and konza or you've got des walker and terry butcher you're going des walk and terry butcher definitely i wouldn't hesitate with that no my arms are okay midfield guys are not ready there gaza and david platt and you've declan rice and anderson oh whoa i'm sorry i'm sorry oh i'm going gaza 100 and gaza's in i'm I'm not even asking you.

37:54Ian Wright: I'm sorry, but Platty, you can't, Platty's one of the best midfield finishes.

37:59Gary Neville: It'll be Platte or Bellingham. We'll go for, we'll go for... But I thought you said Elliot. No, in midfield, it's got to be Rice, isn't it? It's got to be Rice. Listen, no matter what we've done... Gazza and Rice. The two of you are always going to put Rice in there, aren't you? You love him, but... You're just a bit upset because he didn't choose Ireland still, aren't you? No, he did choose Ireland. He played for Ireland, so he did choose him. But he changed his mind, so yeah. But he did play for him. It doesn't sit well. I don't think it's a bad decision. I think he kissed the badge. He kissed the badge one game.

38:28Gary Neville: I don't think it's a bad decision for me. I love the Irish. I love the Irish. OK, what I'm going to do here, I'm going to do an artistic licence, right? I'm going to imagine it was basically John Barnes and Chris Waddle on the wings. And it was David Platt in there. And then it was, who's up front? Gary Lineker. Gary Lineker. So basically, you've now got, no, no. We're going to go Bellingham or Platt. Ooh. You know something. Bellingham or Platt? I'm going to go Bellingham. I think I'm going to go. I played with David Platt as well. I like him a lot. I think Bellingham. Bellingham. I'll make this more interesting, actually.

39:01Gary Neville: You know? We'll go Peter Beardsley or Bellingham. No. No. Peter Beardsley or Bellingham? Peter Beardsley on it. Bellingham.

39:07Ian Wright: Bellingham? Bellingham, yeah. Even though we have to give Peter. Jude is in. We obviously have to give Peter. Platt had some amazing moments. Bro, he scored a goal. Yeah, yeah. The goals. Yeah, no, the goals, of course, in the World Cup. Yeah, yeah. But the rest of his career, would you look back and go... He scored a lot of goals from midfield, though. He did, but did it add to loads of goals at Villa, Arsenal? Obviously, he went to it later. Juventus, Bari scored. But can you remember, like, huge moments he had? Are they more with England than a club level? I think the Belgian was the one. Oh, that's his moment, yeah.

39:34Gary Neville: Saka or Waddle? Waddle. Waddle? I think Chris Waddle. Waddle? Yeah, I need it. He'd probably need that. And he was on top of the Puffs as well, didn't he? What was it called? Diamond Lights?

39:44Ian Wright: Are we talking about, you know, in respects of... What was that song he sang? Waddle's in.

39:49Gary Neville: Darling, I love you. In the Glenoddle. We picked Marcus Rashford last week in our team. It could be Anthony Gordon. You can have either. John Barnes.

39:56Ian Wright: We picked Anthony Gordon. We did.

39:58Gary Neville: No, we picked Rashford. We changed our lines.

40:00Ian Wright: No, no, we changed our minds, didn't we?

40:01Gary Neville: And you're entitled to change it. John Barnes or Rashford or Gordon. John Barnes. It's John Barnes.

40:10Ian Wright: You're having people talk about John Barnes' career for England. Are we talking about just as the player?

40:15Gary Neville: As a player, just in regard. Where's John Barnes? John Barnes was the best player. In my childhood watching Liverpool, John Barnes was like, like, yeah. Agreed. And maybe somebody's lad in a few years' time can... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is why it's a bit unfair on them. A little bit, but hey. And then you've got Kane or Linick are up top. Oh, Jesus. No, it's Kane. God, you'll let the strike you choose. Don't have silly chats now. Linick are brilliant. But it's got to be Kane, hasn't it? Yeah, but then you're talking about Harry... I would say Kane, but then obviously, and I said Kane, That's 2v1, so it doesn't matter what he says.

40:47There's a striker there. All right, so it has the... OK. No, no, no. Nice to know that.

40:52Ian Wright: No, but when you look at Gary, I think Gary, because he came... The Premier League came after him. You kind of negate everything before. He played for basketball. He scored hat-tricks against Spain, against Madrid. He's got golden boots in the World Cups. Gary Lineker. I know that Harry's done the same. And the thing... And you've worked with him as well. It's got nothing to do with that. It's just like... No, I'm coming to it. You obviously know him. I mean that in a nice way, you know, personally. You know, the thing is, it's just that I feel that... Ian. ...again, him and the same... Ian Rush, these people, Mark Hughes...

41:25Ian Wright: Amazing.

41:27Gary Neville: Me and Roy don't understand forwards to the same level as you do. So your vote counts triple. If you go Laker, we go Laker. If you go K... If England in the World Cup final, you have a choice of a strike, you think if he gets one chance, he's going to put it away. Who will it be? I'd go Laker. Wow. Wow. Wow. You did drink a lot last night. Wow. One thing there is no doubt about, Kane is a better football player than Gary Linker. Yeah, and Gary would say that himself. He can drop in, he can pass. Gary would say that himself. Gary would say that himself. Yeah, but we shouldn't hold that against him.

41:54Gary Neville: No, no, I'm just saying, I mean, Harry is a finisher. I can't comment as much on Gary Linker, even though I watched him, but I can say I think Harry is the equivalent of Alan Shearer as a finisher. I think Harry is the equivalent of Alan Shearer as a finisher. In terms of the way they hit the ball. Clean. Yeah, clean. Did you play against Lineker? No, no. How old are you now? No, I'm not a defender point of view, so if you're playing against one, who would you not want to kind of be up against? He wouldn't want to be up against Lineker.

42:22Ian Wright: I think so with his run and his movement. Because, you see, Harry will go back in there, someone else, you would not want to be up against him. So you're going Gary Lineker? I'd go Gary Lineker. Or Harry Kane?

42:30Gary Neville: I'd go with that, Gary Lineker. Oh, that's a big call. Right, who's the captain of that team? You've got, so the team is, here's the team. It's not a bad team, is it? Have you got the team? Oh, shit, no. Have we got the team? Is anybody concentrating on the...? Concentration. This is the team. Jordan Pickford in the goal, Rhys James, Walker, Butcher, Pearce... Butcher would be on the other side, wouldn't he? Terry Butcher, Des Walker. Des next. Gazza and Declan Rice in midfield with Judy in front. That's a beautiful midfielder. Butcher was left footed. Chris Waddle and John Barnes on the wings and Lineker up top.

43:09Gary Neville: Butcher's left footed. So what we're saying there is effectively, who's the captain of that team? It's Pearce.

43:13Ian Wright: Stuart Pearce or Butcher? It should probably be Butcher.

43:16Gary Neville: Oh, Pearcey, man. It should be Pearcey, though. I think Stuart would give it to Terry Butcher. He would do. I'll tell you what, that midfield's good. We didn't have Gazza in there where Jude is. Gazza off the front. Yeah. But he said, just that's what we were dealt with. It's like a... Who's the holding me field player in that team, by the way? Who was the holding me field player in that bloody team? Fucking no. I'm not wearing this again. There's a player missing. They've just got three at the back and then they play with Gazza and... Gazza, Beardsley and Platt

43:43Ian Wright: didn't they speak to Bobby Robson and say they wanted to change the formation so captain probably I go Butcher you go Piers I go Piers and then like you say Piers because the gentleman he is he'd give it to Butcher

44:00Gary Neville: and then Butcher would say I can't take it off that's the combined 2026 and 1990 World Cup teams and there are one two three four representatives from 2026, seven from 1990 that reached the semi-final. I think that was probably about right. Do you know what I think about the current squad? I think when you look people say the Golden Generation team is better than this current team, right? I agree. On names, on players that played in Premier League, I agree. But do you know what this squad has? There isn't a big drop between the first 11 and the second 11. I think the were at times like players that if they weren't playing they just do it yeah they checked out yeah i think i think they've got a really you're saying there's not a big drop with this group no i think there's a i think there's if you well if you look at it let's say gordon or rashford sakura or madweki if kane comes out kane's a problem that's the one kane is a problem you've got judo morgan rogers kane and rice are the two that you can't replace they're the two that are a problem but i think the rest of them you could take one out put another in and i don't think you'd lose a massive amount.

45:09Gary Neville: Goalkeeper who comes in? No, the goalkeepers. Yeah, there is probably a bit of a drop with the goalkeeper. Just because of lack of real experience, you know what I mean? Because pick for players all the games. Yeah, he does. He does. This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet. Right, is there anything you want to say about this? Because I've got it written on this thing, New York Knicks. Do you want to touch that stuff or not? It was just... They won, didn't they? It was brilliant. They'd done it in five, didn't they? They'd done it in five. Yeah, but again, it's... Did you watch any of it?

45:39You know what?

45:40Ian Wright: I saw the highlights of it and obviously you can hear the noise outside the window. It was amazing. They won. That's 53 years, though. They won.

45:48Gary Neville: I wasn't happy they won because they beat Sporres. Kieran celebrated more New York Knicks winning the actual trophy than did Liverpool win the league. Honestly. You've done it in five, eh? Done it in five. Brilliant. Good start. You're having a good time over here, Kieran.

46:04Ian Wright: The Knicks, though, girl, they've been dragged obviously three years or something they haven't won it for they've been can you imagine are they like the arsenal of basketball are they like the arsenal of basketball over here what did someone say last night it's the equivalent who said it last night it was the equivalent of someone like Everton or or it's Everton winning the league or Southampton something like that winning the league you know what I mean so it's a massive massive thing why would the New York team not win the league that much it should be like well funded shouldn't it it's not about well funded remember the draft and oh yeah that's what that's what's good about it yeah is that everybody gets their chance at some stage because the best players can go to some yeah but if they haven't won it for so long why didn't get why didn't they do better in the draft just didn't yeah they haven't done well in that in that situation but now recruiting them yeah they've done it they've done it finally the parade is is it yeah that'd be wild you reckon yeah to braid it's wild enough after Saturday wasn't it?

47:02We should go down shouldn't we?

47:04Ian Wright: Yeah we should we should go in the Pritz and we'll be able to we'll be able to actually hang in there

47:09Gary Neville: There's a bit on it so what we there's a quiz question coming and then we'll get into a bit of football chat but before that Kieran's going to explain what we've got on the table and that White's food linked to the World Cup Oh right okay This is apple crumble this one Oh yeah I want to eat one of them So you want to

47:21Ian Wright: eat one of them Yeah yeah So this is apple crumble What's the dairy in that? Well I've actually got the ingredients for each thing here

47:28Gary Neville: Oh I can't eat that Kieran where did you Go on, Kieran. Do your bit. So, through the World Cup, Nabisco are going to be supplying us with snacks from different countries. So, obviously, today is Mexico-themed and England-themed.

47:45Ian Wright: Crumbly bit is not crumbly enough. It's beautiful. It is beautiful. No, it's not. It feels like it's... This is a cheese and chive. I'm not eating that. Quiche. This is a full English breakfast cracker. This is a chicken taco down the bottom. And this is a Tex-Mex hummus. I'm not, but I've just had a bit of breakfast. You had breakfast, yeah. I just had toast this morning. It was nice, in a minute maybe. I've just had some toast. I just went for toast this morning, I kept it simple. I've not eaten this morning. The other day I got a nice protein shake, I'll have that and last for a bit. How nice was that milkshake we had the other night?

48:21Ian Wright: Oh, Roy. You've got to tell people how tough it was. We went to... The pensioners tried to do it on that thing where you have to order it with your... We had a lovely meal the other night and we walked back. We can't say the name of the place, can we? No, no, no. Yeah, you can. No, no, no. Shake Shack. Shake Shack. About half ten the other night, we went for a milkshake. Trying to order the milkshake. You have to do it on screen, honestly. Me and Rydie. Well, I wasn't too bad. Yes, you was. You were like dumb and dumb. Going back to the start. Trying to order two milkshakes on the screen. They wanted our email.

48:59Passport, what about passport? How nice is it?

49:03Ian Wright: There was one point where it was actually going to be... The counter was just there, we could have bought it. But we couldn't. It's like, why do they do that? The counter's there, it's not like it's busy. You could just say to excuse us, can we just have two milkshakes, please? You've got to stand there and they're waiting for you there to make it. Just make it! You know what I mean?

49:22Gary Neville: Everything's fast over here. We went to a...

49:24Ian Wright: Well, it wasn't fast, Gary. It'd be fast if they just made it for us.

49:27Gary Neville: The tacos restaurant the other day, they don't even give you chairs because they don't want you to get settled They just want you to eat them and go. I'm telling you, we stood up weren't we? So we had the milkshake, we were outside Just had a nice little sit down didn't we? But you were kind of saying we should be having this, you know it was late at night I couldn't stop myself, but I had the best sleep since I've been there So I think everyone should try and maybe have a milkshake before they go to bed I know it's probably not good Was it a good sleep for you? I just, I like it, you know a baby when you give them a bottle and you're like just stuffed That was the best sleep I had Can I be honest, though?

49:56Ian Wright: Please get doctor's advice at all. It was an amazing milkshake. It was an amazing... It's been the highlight of my six days in New York. In respect of food? From Shake Shack. At half ten, eleven at night. That was beautiful. And then we just sat there just watching people watching. Yeah, we watched the ball go by. Beautiful. Is there a Shake Shack in England? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is one, yeah. Is it? Yeah, but you don't sit up. It was the whole... It was the ambience, wasn't it? Sitting outside. I'm not... I don't care. It's the nicest one I've ever... I know I've had a milkshake in my life.

50:27Ian Wright: It's the best one I've ever had.

50:30Gary Neville: This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Sky Bet. We'll get to football, but we've got a little quiz question. It's better we don't talk about football. Yes, it's true. You like this one, right? Go on. Before we get started, let's kick things off with a quiz question. Can you name, in chronological order, every country that has won the World Cup and the first year that they won it? Wow. Where's the other answers, by the way, on here? You can play as well, Gary, and then we'll give you the answer. What do you mean I can play as well? I've got the answers here. Gary, is Uruguay 58?

51:06Gary Neville: From when the first one, it's like 1930 was the first one. OK, sorry. Who won it for the first time? Uruguay, 1930. Yes, you're right. Who won 1934? Brazil next. No. Wow. Well, Brazil have won it. You can give us Brazil. When did Brazil first win it? 62. No. 58. 58 58 sweet have we know who's won it but are we just trying the names out there so you have to be the year that the first year they won it so there are two countries that would it before Brazil so in between Uruguay and Brazilian 30 and 58 obviously the war was for eight years there wasn't any in that period so who won it in between Uruguay and West Germany at fucking West Germany

51:47Gary Neville: right there's West Germany right okay they won it in 54 and then so you're missing 1934 that's a tough one I don't think it is 1934 Italy yeah Italy so you've got Uruguay 30 Italy 34 West Germany's 54 Brazil 58 and now we're on to who's next 62 yeah so who won that Brazil Yeah, who's next? England. England. 66. 70, Brazil. 74. Germany. Argentina. Argentina is first up. 78, we're getting there. Okay. 82. Did you? Argentina. Italy, yeah. 86. Argentina. 1990. 99. Germany. 94. Brazil. Brazil. Penalties. 98. France. Okay, there's a seventh team. 2002. Germany? No. No. In Japan and Korea? Italy.

52:51Ian Wright: No, no, no. No, it wasn't. No, Germany. Wow. How come it's gone? It's gone.

53:00Gary Neville: It's gone. Roy, help me, man. I got the last few. No. No, but it's not a new country. It's the same. Yes. Germany? No. Italy? No. Brazil, sorry. Brazil, yes.

53:11Ian Wright: Remember Ronaldo with the fucking hair, wasn't it? Jesus, with the tuft on his head.

53:17Gary Neville: 2006. Italy. Was it Italy? It was Italy 2006, wasn't it? I remember Carnavalo. Yeah, yeah. So 2010. Spain. There's the eighth team. Wow. What a beautiful... Uruguay, Italy. I'm well done, right here. Uruguay, Italy, Germany, Brazil. I love the world. Yeah, but yeah. England, Argentina, France, Spain. You know, in England, we say, like, England, oh, we should have won it more. We actually have one of only eight teams that have ever won it. That itself is pretty good.

53:46Ian Wright: You know what? I heard someone talking about the World Cup. It's not easy to win. Holland have never won it.

53:53Gary Neville: It's mad, isn't it?

53:53Ian Wright: Holland with their teams. Can you imagine if Holland won it in 74 or 78, what football would have been like? The impression, what would have happened with football if Cruyff's Holland would have...

54:05Gary Neville: What's the biggest team never to have won it? Is it Holland? Yeah. Are they the team, the football nation?

54:11Ian Wright: I remember there was a time where he was thinking it was Spain, but obviously they've kicked on, but it's got to be Holland. Portugal or Holland?

54:19Gary Neville: Portugal with all their players.

54:20Ian Wright: I'd say Holland because of Cruyff. He's the name that should be amongst those names of the great players that win the World Cup because he was great. So I'd say Holland. I'd say Holland. I think Portugal could do it this time round, no? I think they're short. I think they're going to be short.

54:41Gary Neville: How did they handle Ronaldo? How does he handle him? Play him every game? Has he got an agreement with him where he has to rest? How does that work, that dynamic?

54:48Ian Wright: Imagine, how does it for Martinez? I know.

54:52Gary Neville: It must be a nervous wreck. He came on the show, didn't he, obviously, earlier in the year, and he was saying that he's a massive asset, which obviously he is. But how does he use him? How does he... What does that make a difference? Dynamic. It depends. Just for example, they win their first couple of games, he'd obviously, if he starts them, then he'd rest them if they're already true.

55:09Ian Wright: But what do you think, if they're doing well, Roy, if he wants to play in that way, you bring Ronaldo on for the last 20 minutes. Remember like the Euros when he was injured and he was on the side, he seemed like he's, you know, they'd won it without him. Yeah. You know, he's somebody that, with the team they've got and the players, they could do it and then he could come on and finish it off. But is he that person that will be able to, he's not that person? I don't think so. Don't think he'd be happy now. You know what? Put it this way, when you, even when he was at United, if you're used to being a main man for years and then all of a sudden people say you're going to be like, it's hard to change your mindset when you're the top guy, even at, what, 40 years of age?

55:47Gary Neville: Yeah. Maybe, you never know. Was he 41 though, wasn't he? Yeah. So what have we made in the tournament so far? What do we think so far?

55:55Ian Wright: Again, once it's started, I don't think there's a game that I look at and think, oh,

56:00Gary Neville: what have we liked so far? what we liked about this tournament so far in terms of the football or what we've seen I like the US the US was good the one thing I look for yeah that's the word you're right the one thing I look for in any team now when I went to the Morocco Brazil game I look for teams with energy and that USA team and Potch was quite confident when he was on the podcast saying yeah I think we're going to make progress and I think yeah energy alone that's a good starting if you need quality whatever good decision making but I was disappointed with Brazil didn't I where I know sometimes it takes a team a couple of games to get up and running.

56:33And we might be the same with England when they'll play Croatia. Brazil.

56:37Ian Wright: They don't look... You know what I was saying, Roy?

56:39Gary Neville: Morocco tore them to shreds in the first 20 minutes. Yeah, and they're still Brazil. They said a couple of chances going forward. They said they were kind of one or two star players, but in midfield and...

56:47Ian Wright: It's that mystique of it's gone from them. It's just like... No mobility in midfield and I mean none whatsoever. And Casemiro, instantly you're thinking, from Morocco, you're thinking, I'm quite happy with that.

56:58Gary Neville: Do you think they've been European? Do you think they've been, because they're all playing in Europe or most of them are playing in Europe. Do you think there has been an element of they, that we have contaminated their flair and their skill?

57:09Ian Wright: Because when we, that's what I was saying, when we was younger, we only saw Brazil when they got to the World Cup, you know, their players, and all of a sudden you get these players, like correct, they come out of nowhere, these unbelievable riveting, you see, now we've got players from Brazil who play for Brentford and play for Newcastle, you know, and stuff like that. I'm not digging it out, I'm just saying the mystique of what Brazil used to be. So even when I saw that team sheet come out of Brazil, I was thinking, from Morocco, I quite fancy that team. I know Vinny Jr scored his goal because he's amazing, but I'm not afraid of them.

57:41Ian Wright: They don't have that no more.

57:43Gary Neville: Well, the best players, the way I saw their team, the bit that I thought, ooh, Gabriel and Marquinhos and Alisson in that, I thought, actually... Yeah, of course. The players, I would think, are world-class. No, yeah. Yeah, the goalkeeper. No, I think look nothing is now but for the last four or five six years He'd a goal the goal It was just one past through the middle of these He was in no man's lap. I know it's the first game It just Argentina last week not writing teams off, but and you know what I was watching the game and They don't look a happy bunch. No Why do you say that Brazil didn't look happy bunch because you're at the game You can see just our body language when people weren't making the right pass was an element of and and in the group, it was Angelotti who came in towards the end, almost, to bring them together, in the qualifying, I think they've lost, six or eight games in qualifying, they finished fifth in the campaign to qualify, so clearly there is issues there, whatever, but their technical ability, lack of mobility in midfield, I don't know, I was just looking, I just got that feeling that, we talk about Brazil, we always remember years ago, videos of Brazil and other teams, and I was off the cuff stuff, but they just looked a bit stiff, a bit, I like the word you used, contaminated Have we contaminated?

58:56Gary Neville: You think about Brazil, it's flair, it's like samba It's just that relaxed feeling Of just everything being a bit more like Whereas actually you watch them, they're quite active, methodical But I looked at them and thought Was it 94 Where they played with Dunga And with, was it Maro Silva? Who played with Dunga in midfield In 94? Can we find out who played for Brazil in 94? I thought if you sit Casemiro there with Gimaraes and you've got two good centre-backs and a good goalkeeper do you just have that box there that think okay you've got Cunha and Thiago and then you've got Vinicius on one side Rafinha on the other and you think right I've got four there three Cunha Rafinha and Vinicius with Thiago up top I thought you know something they could could like the next couple of games they'd be favourites obviously Carlo Roy when he won the Champions League with Madrid and then look he had unbelievable players by the way they did play like a deep 4-4-2 and counter-attacked him or they certainly had the potential to get some momentum into the group and they're emotional players but when you've got all these players and Neymar's back into it I was just looking again when they were even having drinks break I just getting all together as if they're proper individuals particularly the attacking players even when someone's making a run and they were like they weren't even communicating with each other going yeah I've got yeah sure how was it with him up front Igor Thiago were they playing

1:00:17Ian Wright: was he okay it was a hard battle for him it was tough it was a tough tough evening for him he'd I think he'd a good chance for the header because as poor as Brazil as poor as they were when it did get in the box you did think yeah still it's threatened of course and as the tournament goes on momentum confidence and obviously they got great support behind them but I wasn't sitting there watching them going wow you know it'll take a lot to stop these do you think Morocco can go far yeah I think so they've got a gump

1:00:42Gary Neville: yeah energy mobility the only disappointment I thought with the second half literally sat to the second half I know it's the first game in the group they both kind of shook hands early and go we both take the draw here because they'll know they're looking on paper they've got easier games coming up and we'll both go through but yeah Morocco were decent yeah they were decent definitely good movement and it'll definitely cause teams problems of course in 94 it was Mauro Silva and Dunger who you don't think has run so they just sat there with obviously two centre backs behind them and you just make you think could he just try him he could end up with something like that yeah like I was like Makinios who was that front then exactly getting him out of jail Talking about Bebeto.

1:01:20Romario. Exactly, of course.

1:01:22Ian Wright: Me and you could stand in that midfield with them two up front. Now, when I say lack of mobility, I know you can still sit there and have an experienced player in there, like I used to play. But when I was looking at the three midfielders, when the game was getting a bit stretched, wow.

1:01:35Gary Neville: I think France win this tournament just straight me. Not the same? I don't see anything else. I honestly think, just what I've seen so far, the way the tournament's shaping up, their front players with their defence, and I just honestly think France is...

1:01:49Ian Wright: I like that Spain can play a different way. Spain don't need to just... It used to be with Spain, yeah, they're just going to try and play off the part. Now they can play off and then bam, go long, gal. It's a different... Any team that wins it, it's not about one way of playing in this tournament. Exactly. You've got to be able to keep it, you've got to be good on the counter-attack, good ops off the bench. And do you know, I have a feeling, they've not even played yet, Argentina. Yeah. Look at their squad, man, and they'll be... They'll be a tough... A home girl. they'll probably look at Argentina Argentina will look at it up to this point and think I'm not really worried about any of you no there's no one stood out yet has there I think obviously Germany have done to Carousel but I like with Germany we've not seen England yet, we've not seen Spain yet we've not seen France yet, Argentina but what I like to see when you look at Switzerland when Switzerland played who was Switzerland against Qatar they should have wiped the floor of them this is what I'm saying with Germany Germany in the end the quality He just wiped the floor.

1:02:47But we made the point, I know we were kind of discussing the other day, this is to worry when these extra teams get in. And it's great, I know you've made the point. It's obviously huge for these countries, of course, but then you can't lose six, seven goals at an international match.

1:02:59Ian Wright: Right, doing that game, right? Seven, right? Yeah, but in the end, in the end, they broke them. But like, leading up to that, leading up to that, when they scored, because again, what they showed with Germany, especially the defence, you can get at them. And they showed Curacao that, you know, they've got the quality to be able to break them and get them. But they couldn't sustain it. So from their point of view, that's what they've got to build on. They've got to build on... But that's my whole point, don't write it. They're going to get hammered, but then you're going to play against a Germany who, the professionalism, like we say when you see an FA Cup game, it's my professionalism.

1:03:33Ian Wright: We're going to play if we play how we play. They should have been attitude, yeah. And then what happens, they're going to run out of steam. You know, you're going to play past them. Bam, yes, you're going to run away with it. But there was a time, up until the hydration break, and then Germany scored before half-time and after half-time. They'd done everything what you're meant to do to a team like that. And then naturally they're going to run away with it. But I thought to that point, they carried themselves well, Curaçao. It's unlucky. But sevens are like, isn't it? Sevens? Yeah, but then you look at the...

1:04:01Ian Wright: Yeah, but I remember when I was younger, like 1974 World Cup, I remember watching that because I was watching it for Brazil and it wasn't a great Brazil side. And I remember at the time, it was like Yugoslavia beat someone else 9-0. but that's what's going to happen and like Haiti are back they're back again they're trying again but you've got to keep progressing of course of course but it's still not but if you're talking about it's not nice it's not nice but like it's a learning curve and it's up to Germany it's up to Switzerland to do it so they can see we've got a long way to go I don't think no team enjoys talking about learning you're in this big boy stuff and you're losing 7 goals and it could have been 10 Germany was still going at it towards the end I can't be good for a player either a professional player going we lost 10 goals in a match wow I was set obviously 7 but it could have been more that's what's going to happen I know it is but it's not good it's collateral damage

1:04:52Gary Neville: this episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet Roy, you went to the Brazil-Morocco game. What do you think of the drinks break? Have you seen what Virgil van Dijk said about it last night after the game? Really strong comments. He said, I think they need to look at it on a game-by-game basis. If it was hot and it was 30 degrees, make sure drinks break. But if not, it's a stealth advertising break, isn't it? Of course it is, girl. We're in America, right? So it's like, it's a time out. Look how long they've wanted that, Roy.

1:05:24Ian Wright: They've always wanted the in-game time. They've covered it by saying hydration breaks.

1:05:29Gary Neville: They've got tactics boards out now, coaching them. But even that, we talk about why we love, obviously people out there have different arguments for different sports. We love football because of the pace of the game. You don't want to go to the toilet, you might miss something. Other sports, you go, listen, we can go out and stop, but we might miss much. But these breaks. And the rules are meant to speed the game up. What it's doing is stopping the flow of the game. The momentum, teams are losing momentum. sometimes you're gaining and you kind of do that anyway when goalkeeper's going down and the problem is the other night the weather was lovely it was like lovely cool even in particularly the second half and the game you're thinking there's a bit of momentum here you smell something in the air and sometimes it comes on the back of a player being injured so you've waited two or three minutes for a player to get treatment the game kicks off for a minute they go oh no we have a hydration break you're like it stops there loads of little petty fouls but this drink breaks before the competition I was saying you know what we have to look after players they're not robots I get all that but now you're talking and I think there was something on the TV the other night where they actually said I think they called it a timeout they classed it as a timeout it was like the game now was like four quarters I think FIFA are going to have to act quite quickly now I think look if it's a drinks break I think there's going to have to be an element of the coaches have got to stay on the bench you can't come and basically put tactics boards up I mean there was one game where I think they actually had a screen where they showed a set piece yeah well that's I think Ancelotti Ancelotti yeah and then there was a tactics board up I mean we're talking about literally two three minute effectively a mini half time we're talking about four quarters that has I think I'm surprised that it's not been stamped on pretty quickly because look I think it is a stealth advertising break because obviously there's nothing

1:07:09Ian Wright: stealth about put yourself in the players shoes right if it is a cool evening and you're obviously a footballer you're getting into rhythm and you're I don't know after whatever you have to go and have a drink for two or three You're like, I stay in stopping the game. I'm just getting the swingers. I've had a couple of good touches. It's just, obviously, you can do that all at halftime. I'll get me breed. I'll get myself together. But this idea, again, it's like a quarter. It's like a time out in America. We're on about basketball, whatever it might be, American football. I watch these. I love them sports.

1:07:39And that works for them sports.

1:07:42Ian Wright: Football, it's... They've always wanted to do that. It's frustrating. They've always wanted to do that because they can't understand how... you're waiting 45 minutes before you stop. You're just advertising revenue. That's what they're saying. But the other night, on top of all that, what noise made the other night, on top of all that, there's obviously a load of fouls. It seems to be stop, start. On top of all this stuff. So you're getting frustrated. But then I saw the referee at the end going, so there was, again, a goalkeeper down for it. He's like, I've stopped the watch. I've done one. And I'm going, it's not about stopping the watch.

1:08:10You're stopping the floor of the game. We know you'll add it on at the end. But even that stop, start, it's really frustrating. particularly when the conditions are I think fine for the player

1:08:20Gary Neville: well I think some games I think there was what was the game the other day where it was absolutely boiling there was a game where it was boiling and you think ah fair enough even just to stop get in the shade and just have a drink fair enough but I think some of the stops are just ridiculous

1:08:31Ian Wright: you two done the Holland the Netherlands Japan game people talking about Japan dark horses I saw some highlights what was Japan like?

1:08:40Gary Neville: I was disappointed do you know something I watched them against England in March and saw them really counter attack quickly and sprightly. Do you know what they kept doing? Against England, they got into the shape and they were compact, so compact, but they sprung out to try and sort of win it back. Yeah. They just went literally horizontally across the pitch and the Dutch, to be fair, controlled the game, didn't they? I mean, the Dutch must be absolutely this morning kicking themselves. They didn't look like

1:09:04Ian Wright: what I saw. The Dutch were moving around and there was a lot of movement from the Dutch. But you know what we have to remember is, it's the first game for even Japan. We think they're fit, they're disciplined. Maybe take them a game or two to go off. It was interesting though.

1:09:15Gary Neville: And before the game, before he even saw them, obviously he's worked over there for, what, years in the J League. He said just the mentality, the belief, he said that's what lets them down. And he said he talked about this 100-year plan. And apparently they stick to this 100-year plan to win the World Cup. And they're only 33 or 34 years through it or something, or 35 years through it. So they're only a third of the way through it. And he said they just stick to a plan, the methodical. They've got no belief. And I thought, when I watched them against England, they looked full of belief. Yeah. and then you watched them yesterday.

1:09:46Gary Neville: I mean, you're right, it's the first game, but they did look like they lacked that bit of belief. They waited, they curled up in the ball. You say that, they came back into the game. Yeah, they did. The mindset, it was the Dutch who lacked belief. The Dutch were 2-1 up in control of it. They're the ones who lacked belief. They went to a back five instead of saying, we're the Dutch, we're on top, we're controlling the game in possession and out of possession. There was no danger. And then a team full of joints to give up a goal from a corner, from a header. Wow. We're going to carry on and talk about football for a little bit we're talking about Scotland so I need the Dutch to be annoyed the Dutch will be they should be but I still like what I saw with the Dutch even though this is disappointing to draw you thinking do you know how nice do you know I thought about the Dutch I've been there in England team hotel the morning after a first game draw where the world feels like it's collapsing you know the preppers have just come on you a little bit you've been in a good position and you're like oh yeah it can be and it's like you just you feel like oh you feel sick after game I'm nervous and you know you feel like you feel like I mean obviously that Argentina lost in the last tournament that went on and won it.

1:10:44Gary Neville: You feel like you're chasing things. But this is what I'm saying. No, I think not with the turret. You have so many teams going through now. I think that edge and that panic is gone now.

1:10:53Ian Wright: You know what's really, as an England supporter, I want our game to get, I want to see our game now because I'm nervous now. This has been a long wait for England. It's really fucking long, man. It's like 10 days before they play. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that is long. I do think it is a benefit not to be waiting till the end, just to watch the other teams and even look at the timeouts, or the timeouts, the breaks, and go, you can suss things out a little bit when you're watching games. What about Scotland? I'm delighted for them. Of course you're delighted for them, because everybody's talking about the way the games have fallen for them, and it's brilliant for them to beat them, because they had to beat them.

1:11:31Ian Wright: And again, it wasn't easy. It wasn't easy. Scotland, in the end, they kind of like, I think they put another defensive midfielder on, and they kind of like just took the blows a bit instead of going and finishing off, which is fine because people are talking about Scotland might need to score more goals because of the third place. But the main thing is that they won. They beat them. You know what I mean? That's the main thing. The hard power for teams like Scotland we play for when you have games where you're almost expected to win. They're the biggest challenges for Scotland and the build-up to Scotland for the last few months must win game.

1:12:03You have to win it and they won the game. It wasn't pretty but I think Scotland and I'm going to mention I watched Morocco and Brazil I think Scotland can get a result I think this idea of going Against who Roy? No against two of them When I say results they could get a result against them two I don't think Scotland should be in the mindset going we've got our three points now could we get through with three points No no no I think you can get results against Morocco and Brazil I really do even if it's a draw obviously one draw will get them through but this don't be frightened that these two teams are telling you they're good of course they're good but they've got the hardest pressure I think on Scotland was this first game and they've done that bit again not pretty but the pressure's off them a little bit because there's three points in might be enough but still believe you can go and get

1:12:46Ian Wright: I think you've got when someone like Vinnie Junior you're always going to have a problem Scotland but there's no way that Scotland should be going into the Brazil game fearful fearful we've just mentioned them earlier they've lost there don't play the jersey play the players you're in front of I think they'll at least get a point off of Brazil I think I think Morocco might be a tougher one so Scotland you're not about trying the teams to win it but Scotland's World Cup will be obviously their biggest challenge is getting out of the group I think they're more than capable of doing it they've got that whatever they've done over the last couple of years the manager's done a great job and again we can sit and criticise Scotland in terms of watching them are they good on the eye maybe not always but they've got a bit of fight they know how to grind out results that Gannon Doe yeah it is a couple of players that can kind of make an impact if you were in that camp with Scotland don't be bogged down by going will three points be enough no no we can get something then.

1:13:39Don't think we have to hang in there. We can have a big impact. I'll take that now for England.

1:13:43Ian Wright: I'll take that. I'll take three points now. And into Croatia? Oh, of course you would. Of course you would. Just take it. Take a draw. Would you take a draw now before the game against Croatia? Yeah, yeah, I probably would. Depends on how the draws come about, though. A draw won't be

1:13:59Gary Neville: received well.

1:14:00Ian Wright: Surely it depends on how you play.

1:14:02Gary Neville: We wouldn't be jumping up and down on a draw. is the nature of the draw will be important how they play but a draw won't be received well by the fans so before England play now would you be quite content if England qualify second or third are you thinking no we need more now it has to be first I think the expectation this group have set over the last four or five tournaments they have to win the group you think they have to win the group Ian second goal Ian

1:14:25Ian Wright: I think to go

1:14:26Gary Neville: just to get out what's our rank in the world now what are we in the world now fourth fourth in the world I'm not saying Croatia by the way are a fantastic team who have beat us over the last seven or eight, nine years in big games. And you can't disrespect Croatia. That would be a massive error. However, England will get criticised if they don't win the group. That's the least of their worries. So you think it's OK to finish second in the group? Yes. I do as well in some ways, but they'll get criticised if they finish second because it will have meant they'll have either lost

1:14:55Ian Wright: or they'll have drawn matches that they should have won. And that's what happens. In the World Cup, you have to build resilience. You have to come from somewhere. No one gets in the World Cup. Look at Argentina. won it last time. They lost against Saudi Arabia, then got themselves together, bam, kicked on. There was a different edge to that though, right? There's more teams, you can finish third and see even qualify, of course, so you've room for more error. I don't think it's the end of the world of England. No, I don't think so neither, Gary.

1:15:23Gary Neville: Do you know what I think about on Wednesday for England? What? There's quite a bit of experience in the squad and yet The back four, Nico O 'Reilly, Gaye, Konza. Rhys. Rhys. I play them in their first World Cup matches, right? One of the most nervous I've ever been in my life was my first World Cup match. It's the World Cup. It is absolutely ginormous. It's like a different level of thinking than you're just playing for your country. And I played in Euros, by the way. So I played in Euro 96. So I played in the big tournament before. But you go to a World Cup as a back four that have never played in it, right?

1:16:01Gary Neville: I'm just looking at that game on Wednesday. I think it's so important that back four start with a good performance. I've said before about Anderson and Rice protecting that back four, making sure they really don't expose them. But there's just something about how we start. We can't afford a nervous start for that back four. But they've got to get off the grid. The back four are talented. One-on-one, you put them up against most. I think they could defend one-on-one against most. But as a unit, that to me is where all my eyes are on Wednesday. Get that back four settled. Can they get a clean sheet?

1:16:32Gary Neville: can they set off really sort of even 0-0 is not a bad draw for the back four but if it's a 2-2 and we've made mistakes at the back I would say so it's how we draw 0-0 alright our forwards to be fair you're hoping that to be fair within the tournament we've got 8 or 9 players there that'll do something but for the back four if they concede 2 and draw 2-2 and the forwards have scored 2 but the back four have made 2 errors that would be a problem so I think it's how we draw if we do draw and I hope we win I think we'll win on Wednesday but that's my point I think it's an important game for that back four to start well.

1:17:04Gary Neville: We played a game against, in 2000, in 2000, righty, against Portugal in the first game. We were 2-0 up after 20 minutes. And then we basically got, but they got back to 2-2 by halftime. And I was playing right back. Tony Adams experienced, by the way, this was our third tournament together. So I was experienced by then, even though I was only 25. I think it might have been Saul Campbell or Martin Keown I'm not sure who's left back it might have been my brother it might have been brother or it might have been Graham Lassau I'm not sure but I tell you what we can see them two goals against Portugal and with your confidence I'm telling you you can see two goals so just how we play on Wednesday's important that's what I'm saying for Konza for Gaye for O 'Reilly for James that is a really important match in establishing a footing in the tournament for them I think yeah but because you've questioned yeah but I agree with you later on in the tournament but they will have setbacks you know what I mean yeah but not not this early you know what I mean just almost like just yeah I know what you mean but there's also dealing with that setbacks like you were saying you all win a bit you don't you have to also go listen it happens what you don't want in the first game is off the back of that first game the headlines to be England's defence looks shaky right yeah but whatever happens they're going to find some headline

1:18:24Ian Wright: no no

1:18:25Gary Neville: they're going to find some headline If we draw a 0-0 right, it'll be England draw a blank. It'll be the forwards, Harry Kane misses or Rashford misses or Gordon misses or Osaka misses. That's a better headline for the team on Friday morning or Thursday morning. It's better England draw a blank than England's defence is shaky. You don't want that headline for them four. The front lads, I think, will handle it and recover. I'm not sure the back four will come out of it that comfortably.

1:18:54Gary Neville: We've already had our first ITV7 football winner and you could be next Regular Stick to Football viewer Chris from Glasgow landed£25 ,000 in the opening round of the tournament getting all six questions right and even nailing the tiebreaker I heard it on Stick to Football I'll check that out and I've done it I can't believe that it's done I'd never done it before that was my first ever time doing it Now it's England's turn and there's 50 ,000 jackpot up for grabs as they take on Croatia in their tournament opener. It's free to play and you can enter your predictions right now on the ITV7 app or website.

1:19:27Gary Neville: Good luck. 18 plus TNCs apply. ITV7 England play this week against Croatia. What do we think the score is going to be? We need first goal scorer and we need the score. But he's going to jump in with Kane, aren't he? You think again for Kane for the score? Do you know what I think? I'm going to go 1-1. I'm going to go 1-1. No, I'm going to go 2-1. England? Yeah. I was thinking 1-1 all day. And I'm thinking Gordon's going to score first. Cut in there, that one, that one. And then that. Roy, who's scoring? Kane. Who are you going for? 2-1. I was going to go... I'm going to go Bellingham. Penalty.

1:20:07I'm going to go Bellingham. Bellingham score first. Kane, penalty. And 1-1.

1:20:12Gary Neville: We're here joined by Kieran, and he's going to challenge us with a quiz. On the board, there are seven answers that we have to guess. and Kieran will reveal the correct answers. But there's a catch. As a team of Roy and I, we only have three lives. If we lose all three lives, we lose. Come the end of Stick to Football, if we've won more than we've lost, £7 ,000 will be donated to a charity of your choice. Give it to Jill. Perfect. We'll give it to Jill to get up to£530 ,000. I'm right, he said he'll double it. However, if we lose, a forfeit will be revealed and viewers get your ideas in. Right, what's the question, Kieran?

1:20:49Ian Wright: The question is, most England appearances at a World Cup?

1:20:53Gary Neville: Right. So we're all a team here? Yeah. So I'm trying to think who's played a lot at a World Cup. Gary Lanica played a lot at a World Cup, but that's just the whole fire. Sol Campbell, he played in 98, 2002 and 2006. I'm definitely thinking Sol. So how many do we have to name? Sorry. Seven. Seven. Right, OK. We have to get that. I'm pretty confident Sol Campbell is on there. So can we go with Sol first? There's a finger. We've got three lives. Right, okay. So I think I'm confident with Sol. Let's look at Kieran's face. Has he given anything? I'm confident with Sol. I'm pretty confident with Sol.

1:21:28Gary Neville: So how many more clubs did he play in, did you say? I think he played in three. You think or he did? I think he played in three. I think Sol's definitely up there. Sure. What about Sol? No, but let's just... Okay. Will you say yes to us once we give an answer? Yeah, once you give an answer, yeah. Oh, we'll go over that. Okay, we'll go Sol Campbell. No. You egg. You egg now. I'm gonna smash the fucking place. How was Saul Campbell not on there?

1:21:52Ian Wright: You know something, your soul went on the soul, you just died on the soul here without even letting us sit down for two minutes. Nev, how many World Cups did you play in?

1:22:03Gary Neville: I missed the World Cup though in 2002. I didn't ask you that, how many did you play in? Err, two. We've got to be careful here, lads, just think of all the players, we've got over 100 cats. I was just thinking, I think Bex is one, because I think Bex played in 98. Well, if you get this next one wrong. He played 398, Bex, right? He played in 2002 in Japan and South Korea. I'm thinking Goldkrieg. And he played in 2006. I'm thinking Shilton or something. Pickford, maybe. Pickford. Pickford played a semi-final and a quarter-final. So Pickford could have played, what? Pickford could have played nine, eight and nine.

1:22:37Ian Wright: What did you start?

1:22:38Gary Neville: So are we on number two now, then?

1:22:40Ian Wright: Because you missed out on that. I think it's better.

1:22:42Gary Neville: You've lost one life, you can keep going. I think Bex is on there. I want to go I've lost my confidence I want to go Shilton I've lost my confidence Can I go Shilton? Yeah yeah Shilton? Yeah That's number one I said it as well He's got on to Shilton I'm going to stop it We just discussed He's got 125 caps Just quickly How many games were in 1966 Because they got to a final So like Bobby Charlton Probably played six in there And then he's probably Played in 70 Bobby Moore as well probably No there wasn't many games Yeah but In 70 as well They got to like Whatever What did they get to in 70? 70 we've got to this 66 and 62 66 70 so Bobby will have played in 62 not doing

1:23:26Ian Wright: that's 62 did it let's not go let's not go there'll be some from 66 and something something yeah yeah Karen excuse us oh I'm not sure I lost

1:23:37Gary Neville: we can't go for so I'll sell Campbell as well I'll come along then Beth how many did he get how many did he get how many soul get in a world cup but nev look at this with like so shilton's number one and he's only got so i say only 17 it's a lot a lot like in world well it is a lot of course i get it but there might be 86 90 is 86 and 90 they got obviously

1:24:02Ian Wright: to a quarter final and they got to a semi-final wasn't shilton then 82 82 shilton ashley cole must be in he must have been he's got has he got over 100 caps yeah 106 so just think quickly of

1:24:14Gary Neville: Ashley Cole must be in Ash only played I think in 2006 So are we still on the same first

1:24:21Ian Wright: You need to keep giving me answers Until you get It wrong three times So there's six more to reveal here Yeah we can get number seven next If you know what I mean It doesn't have to be Yeah it doesn't have to be in order You're right Bex must be in there

1:24:32Gary Neville: I would have thought so But you know something I'm not sure you've got more than nine He must have

1:24:39Ian Wright: One, two, three Well Ashley Cole must be in We've got to get Ashley Cole's name involved. Hang on.

1:24:46Gary Neville: Bex? Yeah, Bex is in there. Bex is in there. Bex was the one I was thinking in there. I think Bex's got about 12. 11 or 12. Yeah, Beckham. Locking in Bex. David Beckham. Bex is number six. Well done, Roy. 13. 13. 11 or 12, I thought, yeah. Not far. You're getting back.

1:25:02Ian Wright: I'll tell you what.

1:25:03Gary Neville: These numbers are higher than I thought, by the way. Sir David Beckham. Your Lampard Gerrard is going to come into this a little bit, I think. Maybe Ashley Cole, you're right. What about Rooney? That's a good point. You started it young. 2006, yes. 2010, yes. 2014, yes. Yeah, Rooney. Rooney. Rooney. Rooney. No. Do you know what, lads? You're fucking too... They go out in the group. You know what? I just said the name.

1:25:34Ian Wright: Gary's the one who's doing the definite stuff. Oh, shit. Shit. Gary's lost two. You've only got one life left now. What I said was fucking Rooney. Do you know something?

1:25:41Gary Neville: I didn't say put him on there. I don't normally get so wound up during a quiz, but I'm fucking fuming with this. I am absolutely fucking fuming. Do you know what I'm saying? Are you playing on what? You've got to put Butcher in there, maybe, you know. If Shilton's in there and he's played 17. What about Des Walker? Butcher, it must be that era. It must be that era. My era's fucked. Yeah, but you were around about getting to the latter stage of the tournament. Obviously, they did in... 90. 86, they got to the quarters against Argentina. Right. 82. they were there, England, because it was when Brian scored the first goal against France.

1:26:18Gary Neville: So Butcher could definitely be... I don't know, I don't know. I'm telling you, Terry Butcher could definitely be there. But again, has he got... I'm going big on Terry Butcher. Oh, God, Gary, you've gone big on two people.

1:26:30Ian Wright: You're like, it's fucking massive. No, I can't go in.

1:26:33Gary Neville: I can't get the third one wrong or else they'll batter me. They'll throw me in the river. I'll be off Brooklyn Bridge. Right, let's go through more teams. No, no, you're talking 82, 86, 90. You've got 2006, 10, 14. And then you've got 18, 22. Yeah, but how long did it win in the tournament and who would have been like, obviously playing in all the games? Would you not hang out for you? Jordan Henderson. 14, 18, 22. I'm not saying I'm not he's been to three because he was there you remember the chance obviously you remember the chance

1:27:13Ian Wright: how many is Harry Kane Harry

1:27:15Gary Neville: played in all of Harry didn't play in 14 didn't come with us he was there in 18 to the semi-final and he's there in the I'm trying to Harry he's still thinking of New York in Russia how many games do England play in Russia how many games do England play in Russia right three four five six and then how many do they play in France? In Qatar. They play it to the quarter-final, so three. So he's played 11, Harry, I think. I think we've got... Do you think Harry's here? He'd have to be here. I can tell you this is 12. Oh, it's not Harry. It's not Harry. Thanks for that. Unless Harry's 12. Just give us...

1:27:55Gary Neville: He's not Harry, is it? No, he can't give us anything. He can't give us anything.

1:28:01Ian Wright: This feels like it's a lot harder than it should be, Gal, and you should be giving me more.

1:28:04Gary Neville: You're not giving me nothing. I've given you absolutely nothing. I can't believe I'm wrong with the ones I've said. It's all Campbell.

1:28:10Ian Wright: We're not going, I don't think we're going. But by the way, I'll just say something. What about someone like Kevin Keegan? But can I just say something, by the way?

1:28:16Gary Neville: We've got one right and that's the only one that I've given you. But you've given us nothing here. Who got Peter Schilt? You got Peter Schilt at the moment. I did as well.

1:28:24Ian Wright: So the person who got number one, should I just stop? Should I leave? You definitely sent Ashley Cole. You're ruling Ashley Cole out. I'm not ruling it out, Roy, no. No. Ashley Cole could be in there. Just put Ashley Cole in. Ashley Cole, yeah, that's correct. Ashley Cole is number four. Well done. Get him out. You're killing us, Ashley. Get him out. That's not bad, 40. It's tight. It's tight. So that means there's someone else. Kyle Walker.

1:28:50Gary Neville: Kyle Walker played in 14. Kyle Walker played in 14, I'm sure. Kyle Walker's surely got to be in there. Did Kyle play in 14? I'm not getting nothing off Kez. I'm pretty sure, oh no. He was right back. he was Glenn Johnson in 14 can we simplify which players have got like that 100 cap vibe Lampard Gerrard Bobby Charlton there's definitely not Bobby Charlton in there he can't be now unless Bobby played in 58 England played in 58 were they at the tournament

1:29:19Ian Wright: I don't think we qualified

1:29:20Gary Neville: no I don't think we did they qualified in 58 Kyle Walker

1:29:24Ian Wright: would Peter see no let me see look I'm trying to look who cares

1:29:29Gary Neville: I'm not getting nothing up with Stephen Gerrard 2002 2006 2010 I think Stephen 2014 say it he was with us in 2014 I'm sure he was was he? Stephen Gerrard

1:29:44Ian Wright: Stephen Gerrard Stephen Gerrard's number 7 how many? 12 12 which is tied with Gerrard, Lineker Maguire, Owen Pickford Lineker

1:29:54Gary Neville: Stirling and Stones so Stones will move up I said Stones is where they go right I'm pulling us out of this now I've got to clue that because you've got that era like that that's Kane Kane's got off played more than these yeah Kane's got off played more than no Kieran Kieran don't do anything don't own me who's got a biscuit or something who's got something that can eat Brian Robson no Brian Robson is not up there he got injured in World Cups he got his shoulder early doors of course he did look at me look at me look at me two of them you've mentioned already in your discussion of course we have Don't give us any chance.

1:30:32Gary Neville: What about Stuart Pearce? What about Pearce? Oh, that's interesting. What, Pearce? Yeah, Stuart Pearce. Stuart Pearce was in 98. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. He was in 90. Stuart Pearce was in 98. He didn't play in 98. 90. Graham Lassol, wasn't he? He never qualified in 94. No, he played left centre-back. Left centre-back. We played three at the back. Me. Tony. I think it was Sol. Sol Campbell, isn't it? Yeah, it was Sol. Where was I with Butcher? Because at Butcher I was around 82, 86. and 90. What about Gaza? No. Gaza's only 86. 90. Gaza wasn't 82. Yeah, but it was 90. Gaza wasn't 98. Was it 94?

1:31:12Gary Neville: We didn't get there. It wasn't there. Of course we went. Latty. No. Michael Owen's there. Can we... Is it unfair to say we're not coming back to the 60s? Would it be somebody... We've got no 60s. Who was the goalkeeper back in? Bobby Moore. the goalkeepers definitely not Alan Bull Trevor Brook and any of them Kevin you mentioned Key game we've got to throw names out there it could be a 66 70 so England qualify yeah no 74 didn't qualify didn't qualify we didn't qualify alright so from 66 and 70 don't you so it's got to be after that no if you think of a player then who would have played in Sir Bobby and Bobby Moore no but even after that so after even 70 you were saying England didn't qualify in or 78

1:32:04Ian Wright: oh what a bad team yeah we were terrible but like we should have we're great players 80-80 we didn't have great players

1:32:11Gary Neville: I think Frank might be there's definitely a player in there we'd be like scratching our heads Frank 2010 Frank 2006 no I think there's one back further back Frank could be was Frank around in 2002 because I didn't go to that tournament I was injured but was Frank there was that bit before Frank this is Frank in 2002 I don't think Frank's played more than Steven I don't think Frank's played more than Steven I'm surprised Rooney's not on there by the way these two are 14 just

1:32:47Ian Wright: so you're aware oh I mean actually called 14 then this one's also 14 because the top seven isn't it we couldn't go down further of course of course yeah okay get him some picante so we I think it's someone in and around that that that era isn't it you've mentioned them before already you keep saying that yeah

1:33:21Gary Neville: At what point? Right, give me a thing here. Are we talking... Are we talking 82, 86, 90? Or are we talking 2002, 6, 10? What about 93? No, 2, 6, 10. No. Are we talking then 18 and 22? No. 14, 18, 22? No. So we're talking 82, 86, 90? Yeah. Right, OK. So Butcher's got to be in there, hasn't he? That team we had before, your team, that team there. So Pearce could be one, by the way. Was he in 82? He wasn't 82. Beardsley? Was he 82? Waddle? No.

1:33:57Ian Wright: 82? Barnes? I was going to say Barnes. Barnes went to the... He was there, wasn't he? No, Barnes... I think Butcher or Walker. Barnes was...

1:34:05Gary Neville: I think Butcher and Walker, you know. I'm telling you. Des Walker. Honest to them two. But I don't think Des has got like 80, 90 caps. I think Des is like 50. Remember, Dave? It's got to be Butcher, because Butcher has got to be there. Butcher always played for England. He was like Mr England. Um... Terry Butcher's got to be there. What about someone like Phil Neal or something? I'm going... No! It's Lineker. It's Butcher. Parker? No. 82 is Butcher. 82 is Butcher. I can't think... Give me that thing there. Butcher and Waddle. Waddle's a bit older, I think. Chris Waddle's a bit older. Roy, you know this.

1:34:43Gary Neville: You grew up... You know this. How old is Chris Waddle? It's just a few years old. To your age? Yeah, he's just older than me, yeah. So where were you in 82? Where were you playing in 82? Where were you around? No, no, because... Sunday morning.

1:34:56Ian Wright: I was playing 10 and a bit. How old were you, though? How old were you in 82? I don't know, 18 or 19 or 20 or something. Is he two years older than you? Three years older than you? Something like that, yeah.

1:35:04Gary Neville: Maybe two years. Butcher, I'm pretty... Honestly, I think Butcher, I'm... I'm absolutely... Right, I have a bit of this.

1:35:11Ian Wright: No, I'm not in that, Rodgers. That's what I'm saying, Gary. You need to chill and stop eating food and you're eating foolishness now. I think Butcher.

1:35:20Gary Neville: We have to go with somebody. Who'd be here? You want to lock? Right, I'm just going to get up just in case I got it wrong. Butcher. You're locking him? Butcher, yeah. I'm locking him in. Butcher's number two. Thank you. And that's the last one from this era. Right. So that's a little clue for you. So we're moving on to 18. We're moving on to 18.22. No, you're not. You can't back to it.

1:35:39Ian Wright: Are we going back?

1:35:40Gary Neville: No, we can't. Oh, it's at 66.70. He doesn't want to say. Earlier. Earlier than that? Stanley Matthews, Tom Finney type shit. What? Earlier than that? No. You were on it the first time. 82, 86, 90? No, earlier. Earlier. 66, 70. It's Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton. Because I think Bobby Charlton's got... I think Bobby Charlton went to a World Cup like when he was 18 or something. Did he play? Was England in 58? In Sweden?

1:36:10Ian Wright: We didn't qualify. Are you sure? We didn't qualify in 58. Right.

1:36:15Gary Neville: How many games, to win a World Cup... Yeah, but they played a lot less games then, didn't they? No, no, in 66 I think we played a group of four, then a group of three. They played two groups, didn't they, in 66? Did they not? They were like two little groups or something. I can't remember. Something like... I was three. We'd have to go Bobby Charlton out of that. If it's that era... Bobby Charlton. Bobby Charlton, number three. We got it, Roy. We did it, Roy. So, Bobby. I mentioned that era. I mentioned that era. So who's that then, Gal?

1:36:45Ian Wright: Five. So that person's on 14 as well.

1:36:49Gary Neville: So this is a... You've got to think Bobby Moore has mirrored Bobby Troutham, yeah? I mentioned Bobby Moore. He's got to be more before. You've got to think he's mirrored him. He's the captain, eh? Never injured, probably. So if we get this one wrong, are we out?

1:37:04Ian Wright: Yeah, we're done.

1:37:05Gary Neville: So this is all or not, innit? What did we get wrong? We got Sol Campbell and Rooney.

1:37:10Ian Wright: You got Sol Campbell and you was the one who got Rooney as well because I mentioned him but you threw him in. Is it Bobby Moore? Are you locking that in? Wait. Oh no, he's torn. I'm trying to walk over to one of his voices. Wait, wait, wait. I think that he's torn. Do you want us to win? His tone says... I want Jill to get the money, don't I? His tone says it's Bobby Moore. Can we Google it? No. No. Can we... We should lock in Bobby Moore. Just go for it. Is this for 7 ,000 for Jill's charity? No, at the end of the tournament it is, isn't it? How do we do that? You've got to win this more than you lose it.

1:37:44So this will get you one up. OK. That's good.

1:37:47Gary Neville: It's important, this, though, isn't it? Bobby Moore. What's it is? Let's just have a think about who else played in that team, right? No, no. I've got it. Alan Ball. No. Gordon Banks. I was going to say, I must be a... No, no, no.

1:38:00Ian Wright: It's got to be Bobby Moore. Gordon Banks? I want to go with Bobby Moore.

1:38:04Gary Neville: Oh, shit. Alright, then you... No, no, I don't. Right, I must be... I'm just thinking goalkeeper can I take the lead Gordon Banks makes a save in 7-7 what a great save and he's always in the goal in 6-6 right so Sir Bobbitt always plays Sir Bobbitt always plays I think Gordon Banks always plays do you? so does the captain and maybe does does Bobby Moore miss a game because he's got I don't know is it both of them? it can't be both of them can it? no could be both of them could it or not? is it two or one? it's one I mean if you're saying Gordon Banks and you're saying Bobby Moore you can have the

1:38:38Ian Wright: Roy, we've got one. Cheers, yeah. Thank you. I'll take the blame, but I'm telling you, I think that you can't have this kind of line-up without our greatest captain. He must be in there.

1:38:51Gary Neville: Ian, you feeling it? I'm feeling something. I'm not protecting myself here, because I have no idea.

1:38:56Ian Wright: Kez, I want to go with Bobby Moore. I'm sorry. Roy, you're back. Roy? I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm backing you, but... OK, thanks for just leaving me out there. I can tell you, you should have backed righty, because it's Bobby Moore. Nice one, right. Jill! Is that you? That's just one point. He's exhausted. Wow. Well done, righty. Thanks. I was. Look at my cry-face. You came good, pal. Oops. It's got to be Bobby.

1:39:24Gary Neville: That was so good. This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet. Right, there's 21 questions. Pick a number. Nine. here we go have you bought anything whilst you're out here that's a good one to start with I have I have as well yeah I have yeah so we start a couple of things you said there was nothing in them vintage shops no no when I was in Miami oh no when you were in New York have you bought anything since you've been here yeah I bought

1:39:55Ian Wright: a vintage Mets top okay did you is it nice it's quite cool yeah I quite like it did you get one for me and no because like I say if you're going to get a vintage one you can't just you've got to be

1:40:10Gary Neville: what have you got? me and Roy went walking on Saturday morning with Lucy Ward and Karen Carney and we hit a street market and I bought six 1960s original magazines, Life magazines that had Martin Luther King's wife on, JFK Memorial, Landing on the Moon, Marilyn Monroe, I'm going to... Muhammad Ali, did you? Muhammad Ali, Mick Jagger. So then the Rolling Stones first came to America and I'm going to frame them and put them up in my house. So they're going to be eating like a night, yeah? Yeah, like a nice food. That's cool, yeah. And then I bought seven Bruce Springsteen albums, records, the original vinyls, which were nice in the shop.

1:40:58Gary Neville: It was a nice one. Lovely, yeah.

1:40:59Ian Wright: Have you got a record player? I've got a record player in the house.

1:41:02Gary Neville: No, I'm going to get a record player. You've got a record player. And I'm just going to have a little vinyl collection. I'm just going to put this little... Just a cheeky... Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah. Roy, what did you get, Roy?

1:41:11Ian Wright: Some nice. Some pants. Yeah, I got some nice pants, Roy. A bit like yours, like... You know what? I've gone with that more breathable space. Like, we're calling Gary tight pants on this trip. Because I don't know what's happened to him with these tight pants. But, like, it just feels like at our age, kind of, we should be wearing that kind of pant. Like, tight pants. It's like Gary's wearing tight pants. He's any space bomb is tight in the pants

1:41:41Gary Neville: tight pants Which is the best city Manchester London Cork or New York? It's all different. Well, it's silly though. I wouldn't swap Manchester me for the people and the people just I think are exceptional when you I'm not to fab up into court that many times But I'm sure you say the same thing about your hometown Roy wouldn't you? I wouldn't say that about London. I don't know if you'd like London. Yeah, I know. I wouldn't put London in that sort of...

1:42:08Ian Wright: Honestly, you go up north, you get more love. You get more kind of love. In London, everybody's like... There's a different energy there. It's all different. Different. Yeah. Different cultures, isn't it? Yeah. But it's nice here. I know we've only been here a week and that. It just feels nice. If you lived here, it might be different, isn't it? Sometimes you stay in a place, you think it's lovely. It's a massive melting pot. Even when we're just in the house, everybody's there.

1:42:33Gary Neville: Every colour and creed. The best football shirt at this World Cup, I'm going to throw it out there. I'm going to say the US kit. I saw the night. I chose that Scotland kit. I mean, it's a bit controversial. But the Scotland away kit. Away kit, yeah. The Scotland away kit, eh? It's a bit retro, isn't it? What were we looking at the other day? I'm going to get one. Oh, we went into a retro kit for the Argentina Messi kit. Argentina is nice. Argentina. It's a nice top. I'm gonna go US, I think the US kit looked brilliant. No? Yeah, not bad, a bit.

1:43:04Ian Wright: I got quite good, the US kit. Anyway, it's your first. I like Mexico as well, I like Mexico. I like Japan's away one. Yeah, I think it might be that one. Might be Japan's, yeah. Argentina was nice, Italian. What else you got, Gal? Are we struggling with our community questions at the minute? We got 21, we got 16, go for 16. 21 seconds to go.

1:43:24Gary Neville: Which country's fans have looked the best so far, been the best so far. Scotland. Scotland. Yeah. The Brazil fans are good. They are. The Ecuador fans, by the way, last night,

1:43:34Ian Wright: coming across the bridge. You know as well, the Curaçao as well. Curaçao were nice. There's not many of them, but like, they make some noise. But I think Scotland have taken it with the fans, man. They're just like, bam, with the bag. Do you see them the other day with the bagpipes? I know, but you get fed up with bagpipes as well. Well, give that another two weeks. Yeah, but at the moment, it looks like they're invading. It's amazing. It's just a bagpipes. It looks like they're invading. I saw another thing with the bagpipes in front. A sea of people. It just looks really cool.

1:44:01Gary Neville: Have you ever seen a Scottish fan with a glass of wine? I was thinking the other day, all the VTs of all the Scotland fans everywhere, they've all got a pint, haven't they? Have you ever seen a Scotland fan with a glass of wine? I said it to Duncan. And Duncan went, no, unless it's a pint. A pint of wine. A pint of wine. You do miss the Irish and Italian fans here. I think they're a loss. Yes. Yeah, massive loss. They had something, particularly New York.

1:44:25Ian Wright: A massive loss.

1:44:26Gary Neville: yeah what's been the best part of New York so far and what's been the worst oh traffic's bad isn't it I went to that game during the night oh wow to be fair Roy did you see people getting out of that game Brazil-Morocco they said they didn't get back until like 2 in the morning oh I was one of them yeah getting back was tough weird at that stadium that's what we played 32 years ago how time flies that's the stadium we played at yeah that's probably

1:44:53Ian Wright: the only thing is like when you the traffic Do you want me to say the worst thing is? When you're in your traffic and then, because it's hot out there, but if you're in the car for a while because you're waiting around the traffic, then you get freezing because of the air conditioning. And then if you turn that off, it gets too close in there. So you're, so I'm in that place. I think it's the traffic.

1:45:11Gary Neville: Do you know what I think the worst is? I need to position this right. The service is very good, but the service is, I just can't get my head around it. I'll give you an example. I was sat in the bathroom night waiting for you to come down. and in the reception bit, you know, those chairs. Wait for you to come down as well. And I just asked, ordered a bottle of water. And she went... That lady sitting on the corner of that desk? And she said, can you give me a card? She was just like, can you give me a card? I went, no. What do you mean, your credit card? Yeah, I said, no. She said, why not? Like, that type of conversation, I said, because I'm going to put it on my room.

1:45:49Gary Neville: I'm staying here in the hotel. Yeah, but we need something. I said, no. I said, I've not even got a bottle. I said, cancel the bottle of water. oh is that the lady who came and saw you after this girl yeah I said cancel the bottle of water I said seriously this should not be that difficult you know what I mean you literally think I'm going to run off and not pay or you think it's just that distrust and then they just throw the thing in front of you and it's like the 10 % the 20 % the 22 and a half that's the thing tipping and it's aggressive it's like and I just like I can't I know they do it and it's cultural so we have to accept we're in a different country but I've never been able to get my head around it the idea she didn't trust you the idea that you're asking for a tip or the card before you've even been served.

1:46:27Gary Neville: Do you know what I mean? It's like, I can't get my head around that.

1:46:31Ian Wright: That's the bit I just don't like. I just will never get used to that. It's funny because even, it was awkward the other day because when you get here, you have to try and make sure you get some cash on you because then, you know, I had some bags to bring up and I couldn't really do it on my own. I needed the guy, but I didn't have the dollars on me. So, you know, so when he came up and then he came up and brought him and I didn't have, I gave it to him later once I got the cash, but it's the way he was waiting around, like, oh, God, I felt like, I had to say to him, I'm just going to leave these, and are you going to be staying here?

1:47:04Ian Wright: And he said, yeah, I'll be here. I said, I'm going to get some cash in that. But it's the way he was hanging around me, like, I was like, oh, God. I find the tipping very, makes me anxious.

1:47:15Gary Neville: I don't know. I agree.

1:47:16Ian Wright: Makes me anxious.

1:47:17Gary Neville: It's like, and you're just sometimes you press 15 or you press 20. Is that enough? Are they happy? Are they not happy? It's like...

1:47:23Ian Wright: What about when we went to the restaurant the other day? We played by the card and I went and got some cash money. And I gave the girl the tip because we had to give her a tip because obviously it was already paid for. And I thought I was giving a really good tip. I think I ended up just counting it off. Her face was just like this. I know, yeah. And I gave it to her and she went, thanks. I thought, that's a good tip. I think I gave$160.

1:47:47Gary Neville: Yeah. The tip. And then do you know something? there is an amazing woman at breakfast who served us a few mornings oh T the big tall lady she's amazing

1:47:54Ian Wright: she is brilliant and she's just the opposite nice yeah she'll be okay

1:47:58Gary Neville: by the end of this trip don't worry and the best thing about New York so far I'd say Brooklyn just the gem of the area you know what

1:48:04Ian Wright: can I be honest I'm not just saying but like it's just the sights you know just like what about the studio obviously the studio the ITV studios they killed it they killed it honestly brilliant we're getting up early I went for a walk over on Brooklyn Bridge It's just... Before breakfast, walk back in your top. It's overwhelming. It's beautiful. You just walk out there. The sun's always nice and that. Yeah. It really is a beautiful place. And you look over there, you see the Statue of Liberty. You know, it's just... Before I came over, a few people I know were saying, get you like Brooklyn. Brooklyn's the place.

1:48:34And they've been spot on.

1:48:34Gary Neville: They've been bang on, yeah. Yeah. And then the ITV studio, people keep asking me if it's real. The background. Yeah. And it's real.

1:48:41Ian Wright: Yeah, but this is why every now and then, you can hear the people's motorbikes. You can hear the cars. That's what we're saying. That's it. Helicopters. It's happening. Helicopters going over. It's brilliant. Yeah. It's brilliant. We'll do one more question. Well, I do feel when I'm doing the games, I don't feel the World Cup has started yet, do you? Is that because of England? I'm putting it down to that, maybe. Maybe even France or Spain. You know what, God? Yeah, but you say that, right? I think when they won the other day and then the Knicks have gone out of the way now. Yeah, there was a bit of buzzer and energy.

1:49:09It's starting to feel the USA fans.

1:49:11Ian Wright: You're starting to feel... From our point of view, a little bit. But that's, again, that's what I'm saying. I feel... I don't know what the anxiousness is. Now I know it's because we ain't played yet. So I don't know what we've done yet. That's what I need to think.

1:49:22Gary Neville: One more. I don't even know what this means. What are your life hacks for travelling long haul flights? Hacks. What does it mean a hack? I don't know. What does that mean?

1:49:31Ian Wright: It's like a little tip.

1:49:32Gary Neville: So, you know, you might wear a hoodie so that you can sleep easier. You know what I always do?

1:49:38Ian Wright: I always, like now, it's because my nan's does it, my missus does it. She puts Vaseline and kind of something like a scarf. so I don't get that kind of aeroplane cold and the sneezy and the sniffing. I see people lying down in a T-shirt on it. It's freezing. I put a little bit of lavender in and I try to cover my face sometimes. Sandwiches. I brought some sandwiches. Roy's little sandwich pack is so sweet. That food on a flight can be. Sometimes you just want something simple. You know what I mean? What sandwiches are you? I travelled like them tracky bottoms. I travelled in comfort. Yeah. Definitely.

1:50:09But you flew a different airline to me. I was in Virgin I was. Is that what you were? I was Virgin, yeah, but from London, isn't it? It's different from London.

1:50:16Ian Wright: He didn't go down from London. It's much better. You came from London. My advice is travel from London. Honestly. The plane's different, Roy. They give you a muggy plane from Manchester.

1:50:24Gary Neville: So I go down to London. It's the only thing in Manchester that I tend to sort of like, I love Manchester, obviously, but if I'm going Longhorn, I travel down to London to travel from London. I buy bottles of water from the shop because I never feel like you get enough water on a Longhorn flight. They never give you one bottle. It's like one bottle is supposed to last you eight hours, nine hours, so I buy bottles of water, mate. And I buy vitamin tablets before I travel. Do you? Vitamin C. And you know what I always do? The multivit. Get those socks as well.

1:50:51Ian Wright: Oh, the long socks? Oh, get the pressurised socks. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just get those, you know, for blood clots. Did you watch anything good? I watched a brilliant documentary about David Bowie. I enjoyed that. On the flight, that was good. I haven't seen that one yet, but I will watch it, though. Honestly. I watched Legends.

1:51:11Gary Neville: See that? Which one's Legends? Who's Legends? Legends. it's the Steve Coogan's and it's it's about undercover yeah legends just watch it so you know what it's about you can't well you've not told us yet what the Luis Figo fucking thing is in the programme we're now and a half later it was the beginning

1:51:29Ian Wright: of the Galacticos and it was Barcelona going to Madrid

1:51:32Gary Neville: who is the bad guy that's the thing let's finish where we start for me who's the bad guy

1:51:35Ian Wright: I think Figo's the bad guy innit

1:51:38Gary Neville: oh I think Figo wow I think that he initiated Do you know something? This is like a murder mystery film that started at the beginning, built the suspense at the end.

1:51:48Ian Wright: That's why I need you to watch it, because I think if Roy watched it, Roy, you would instantly see. Oh, Roy, you'd like this. I'd probably watch it. You know something? Now you've watched it, see? This is why I didn't want to use Sporting, because I wanted him to have the experience. Well, I appreciate his opinion. He wanted the same kind of thing about movies. I tell you, when you watch it, you know what I mean? I watched it and everything was on it. I think, you know something? I might watch it now. You've initiated it. You've done that. But so, Figo is the bad guy in his own documentary. I think so.

1:52:13Ian Wright: If you're going to think about everything that's happened and how it's initiated, how it came about, there's no way you're going to come. That's who I've come from. That's why I need Roy to watch it. It sounds like you lost control of the edit. LAUGHTER

1:53:10Ian Wright: We'll see you next time.

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