England’s Chaotic Win & Bellingham Shines In Tuchel’s Masterclass

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1:41Gary Neville: What are you doing with that sauce though? Don't put Green's gels on it. If you say to me, never have green, is there any green food that's good? Pesto? No, but I hate pesto. Vegetables? No, that's what I'm saying. There's no green food that you can ever celebrate. If it's green... Woo-hey! Lettuce! Lettuce, cucumber, cress. Cress is the most useless food. Have you ever heard of cress? Cress is usually people from the north. They put it on, like, cresson. My mum used to put cresson sandwiches. I used to say, Mum, why are you putting grass on my sandwich? It is tasteless. it is a wasted time but she used to say it's for decoration.

2:16Gary Neville: Is there a more useless food in Cress? Does Cress have any calories? Does it have any goodness? Does it have any proteins? Does it have any fibre? It's got some flavour. Do you want me to leave this end green free? Oh no, put some Cress on it if you want. But that green sauce there, what's that sauce? What is that green sauce? It's basically an It's got aioli, but it's got rocket in it. What's aioli?

2:44Ian Wright: Like garlic and garlic mayo.

2:47Gary Neville: Oh, no.

2:48Ian Wright: I'll leave some without it on, all right?

2:50Gary Neville: Oh, no. I think I'm going to go for the cookies. Do you know something? You've got two people. You've got two people who are going to arrive over here who are entirely unpredictable.

3:02Ian Wright: And I watched the last episode. Here we go.

3:05Gary Neville: In fact, speaking of it, there you go. Ian, your T-shirt's on the wrong way around. I've got more snacks No your t-shirt's on the wrong way right You've got the label The label is on the wrong way

3:17Ian Wright: Yeah but girl It's the way the t-shirt's made Can you read this If this was the wrong way round What does it say Gary What does it say

3:27Gary Neville: I love my cats

3:28Ian Wright: So if it was the wrong way round Wouldn't this be the wrong way round

3:31Gary Neville: You might have another logo on the other side You've got it off to a tee You think girl You've got it off to a tee That look of I've not tried But I've tried. He's got it off to a tee. Bro. Look at me. The vintage glasses, the beret, the t-shirt, wrong way around.

3:47Ian Wright: What glasses, vintage? They're vintage. I just picked up the first ones. Let me go and see what ones I'm actually wearing. I don't even know what I'm wearing, the glasses. Let me see. Yeah, these are my glasses, what I have to wear. These are my reading glasses. This is my stick to football glasses. They're not. They're a fashion accessory. Well, I can't help it if Jess gets me the coolest glasses. So we've got some biscuits.

4:08Gary Neville: Yes, that's what I was looking at. I'm going to have one of them before I go, definitely. And that's apparently it's Argentinian beef with breadcrumbs around it. Is it? Yeah. So I'm going to try a little bit of that as well.

4:22Ian Wright: I'm not sure. I'd have some fruit though. Have yourself. Cheers. Let go.

4:28Gary Neville: That would have been the last fruit I'd have gone to out of those four. Blueberry, strawberry, blackberry or melon. I'm not going melon.

4:34Ian Wright: Why? It's so sweet. Good yesterday, wasn't it? Yeah, man. Yeah. Brilliant. Our teams were so attacking. Did you love it, Kez? I remember Bradley, didn't I, to the pub? Of course. How was he? Good time. We can see you two goals. Yeah, but...

4:52Gary Neville: We can see you two goals. Yeah, but Gal, you said... The sheet's not clean. The sheet's not clean. For me, it is. You know what? If we got to the final in 1-10-8, I'll take it. If you're in the pub, we brought you a cap. It's a Knicks cap. Okay. If you want to wear the Knicks cap, you can. I'm getting trouble from Jess. Seeing as though everybody's a Knicks. Did you get this for me, honestly, though? Seeing as though everybody is a Knicks fan right now.

5:14Ian Wright: Yeah, I'll take this.

5:16Gary Neville: I will take this. Go, Knicks! Yeah, but it doesn't go with your outfit, does it?

5:21Ian Wright: Well, to be honest, it probably will because my outfit's not for any specific clothes, Gary. This is something I'm trying to say to you in your all-black gear or your all-green gear or your all-blue gear. Man don't do nothing. I made a special... Man's just beige and magnolia. For the whole of his life. This is actually as risky as I get. Yeah, I'm going to take that when we leave. I might wear that today.

5:45Gary Neville: Should we just do the show without him? We can't.

5:48Ian Wright: Because there is no show without Ray Keane. Have you seen The Limey, Ian? The what? You know The Limey with Terrence Stamp? What, the film? Yeah. No, but I love Terrence Stamp. It's a good film. How old's that? How old's that film? 2001, maybe? See, that's what I'm saying. because Terrence Stamp, how old would Terrence Stamp be now? He's dead, isn't he, bless him. He passed. I think he is, yeah. Fucking hell, not recently. You know who Terrence Stamp is? No. Remember Superman, General Zod? He was in Superman as General Zod. Who was super? Clark Kent was Superman, wasn't it? Clark Kent was Superman, yeah.

6:21Ian Wright: Christopher Reeves was Superman. Clark Kent was his alias. Did you just hear that? Did you hear what he just said? Sorry.

6:28Gary Neville: I thought it was good because it is Christopher Reeves. Fucking hell.

6:33Ian Wright: I'm like, girl, you need to watch more stuff. Yeah, but I'm not into these supernatural things, no. The thing is, can I be honest, you see, even with Messi's act-trick, watching Messi's act-trick was like watching a superhero film knowing that the hero's gonna do something. It was amazing. It gave me that feeling like I've ended watching the film and Captain America done unbelievable things in the film. It's like, have you seen, you've seen Endgame? No, I've seen it. Who's seen Endgame in there? You know the bit when Thanos is just about to kill Thor? He's pressing that Mjolnir into his chest, and then the other Mjolnir, you know, is over there, and then we just start to see it shaking.

7:15Ian Wright: So we're thinking, oh, my God, Thor's getting his power back. And then it goes, whoosh, knocks Thanos off, and then it comes back, and it goes like this, boom! Captain America has it, bro! It was like, ah! Jeez! And then he just, bah, it's Thanos, bro! It was like, honestly, I couldn't contain myself when that happened. Because I was thinking, oh no, he's going to kill Thor. And then it went, whoosh, whoosh. Honestly, I think there's a clip. You can see a clip of it where someone's filming live in the pictures, in the cinema, when it happens. He sends it to me. If I find, once I find it, because I'll probably go into a hole at some stage while I'm here.

8:01Ian Wright: At Instagram film hole.

8:03Gary Neville: What's worrying me right now is that you're right up there, you're a bit of peak. You're like, the picantes, the fucking...

8:10Ian Wright: The fucking phones. I just wrote to my missus, she said, picantes? I said, Nance, just because you can drink all night, you know what I mean? I'm just having a great time. Nance, Nancy, this is... Look at last.

8:23Gary Neville: He's just doing jugs of picantes. This is what he's doing every day. And that's why he's coming in like this every morning. No, I'm not. Get me a jug of Pocanty. Can we get Roy a jug of Pocanty as well? Do you like cats? I love cats. What do you think I'm...

8:42Gary Neville: No, but do you like cats? I just thought it was a t-shirt. I didn't know you liked them. Honestly. You want to see a picture of my cats? I had a dog jump up at me in the lift this morning in the hotel. Seriously? I wouldn't be happy with that. No, I wasn't happy.

8:53Ian Wright: I wasn't happy with that. What am I? How cold is it in here?

8:56Gary Neville: It's freezing. Did you have breakfast this morning? No, I went to Starbucks. Did you have breakfast? Nah. Did you?

9:03Ian Wright: Yeah, but why don't you go for breakfast? That annoys me about you. Yeah, but the thing is, I don't know when you're going. You know when I'm going, Rydie. I don't know when you're going now, Rydie. But do I have to? Sometimes I go down and... Do you know what? Do you think I want to have breakfast with people every morning? Do you know what it's called? What? It's called being polite. All right, if we all do our own thing for breakfast, we'd never see anybody. I just had breakfast there with a couple of people, Duncan, Patrick, you know what I mean? You have to be polite to people. I'm sixes, sevens at the minute, so I know you won't be awake at that time.

9:33Ian Wright: You won't be awake at that time. I can, I can get up early. Will you come at that time? Because I would go that time. Sometimes I don't want to go on my own. No, but then when I came the other day and you were there, you were like, I've got to go now. I mean, the two of you are like, just be a bit more nicer. That's all I'm saying. I'm serious, right? You know I am. Be nicer. It's a team game. But there's things that's happening. No, I'm not about being nice away from the cameras. LAUGHTER

9:57Gary Neville: We were together last night to laugh at 9 o 'clock.

9:59Ian Wright: Exactly. You can't win with him now.

10:01Gary Neville: We were eating together. We were together all night, all day. We stayed...

10:04Ian Wright: No, I was after a walk. Yeah, but we're together all day as well. I know, but sometimes when I'm witchy, honestly, it's weird. Take this in the right way, right? Because you're mature enough.

10:14Gary Neville: It's not going to be a compliment. No, no, no. Here we go, look. Just be mature about this. I'm going to take it. I'm going to be mature. You're around four, you're all defensive. Listen, yeah. But when you're with you, but you're not there, you're like, you're somewhere else. You sound like my wife. Gary, you're never present. But I am present, Roy. Roy, I have never spent more time with you in the last week than in my life. I've dressed you. Yeah, but there's a selfish reason for that. Because I'm kind of helping you with certain things you're doing at the moment. You're looking for feedback.

10:46And you don't want to go places on your own. I get it.

10:49Gary Neville: He's using it. Oh, yeah. I don't want to go places on my own. Righty, you know I'm right, don't you? You know deep down you're going to laugh about it and all this, put a front down, but deep down you give me a message and I thought you were right. You were right.

11:03Ian Wright: You know what really stressed me last night? When we were just ordering that food, when Gary was ordering the food, how he was, my gosh. What do you mean? That poor guy. Because he's not in the moment, because he thinks he has to be in and out quickly. No. It was a good day. It was a long day to watch the match. I thought that's what we were going to be there, Gareth. I was at Russian last night. Girl, when we went there, when we was ordering, said, you've got the wings, right, these two, right, it's off that menu. Now this one, and then you went like that, right, right, them two burgers, and the guy knew, and said, the wings, and then the guy had to show you that there's things that come with it.

11:35Ian Wright: Remember that? And it just felt, you know what, I tried to check out, and I just started to breathe. I said, you know what, that's just Gary. You know? And the seats weren't up, weren't it? They weren't. Seats? How do you sit with... He sang into his seat in his lovely club. I was eating my food like this. The seats are too low, my back was killing me. Wow.

11:56Gary Neville: Roy, you were just annoyed because you couldn't see the television. And when you did see the television, Garda scored a goal. Roy, it was so funny. As soon as you sat down the first few... We're in the middle of this club, right? These two guys are standing in front of the telly.

12:07Ian Wright: He shouts the full length of the place. Guys, guys. It was cool, man. It was the brothers, man. You saw when I went to the toilet. We were all cool, man. They know. You know, my mum used to throw a slip-up.

12:17Gary Neville: And there's me thinking we had a nice relaxed night. You think you were rushed? It weren't rushed.

12:21Ian Wright: No, it wasn't rushed.

12:22Gary Neville: We watched the whole game.

12:23Ian Wright: We literally had... You had burgers. How good was it when Ghana scored though? My gosh. They went crazy. All the Ghana fans went mad.

12:30Gary Neville: They went mad, didn't they? Eh? Brandon. Brandon score? He said it. No, no, but Brandon didn't score, did he? No, he said it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Brandon. I love Brandon. I love Brandon. Brandon, who's Brandon? Brandon Thomas Asante. He used to play for Salford. You made a few barbots of him, didn't you? Right? Do you have something? He deserves it. Of course, no one said he doesn't. He deserves it. He's good. He went to West Brom, then he'd gone to Coventry. He'd been in the Premier League this year. He got a guy in the World Cup.

12:57Ian Wright: What's his journey so far? Where was he before? His journey was at Milton Keynes-Dons.

13:00Gary Neville: He was released from them, hadn't he? Yeah, he was at Milton Keynes-Dons and he got released. I'd say he was 18 or 19. We were just about to set up our B team and we had trials. And I always remember, I went down, I didn't watch the trials, because obviously I don't pick the players and stuff. But I went down there after and Chris Casper was there with Warren Joyce and Warren Joyce was basically taking over our B team. And he said, you've got to sign that lad now. To prepare the year that we sold him, I remember I go on holiday to Greece in like August and we'd started the season. And he was like, I think he'd scored like five or six in eight games and he was on fire.

13:35Gary Neville: He had something, yeah. And he was ripping up teams and he'd just come back over pre-season, different player. And anyway, we had a buyout clause in his contract of, it was a few hundred grand. I'm not exactly because it's too recent there's probably confidentiality around there's a few hundred grand anyway Brucey rang me up whilst I was at Aldi and said we want to invoke the buyout clause I was happy for him but I was devastated because we kept him I think we'd have gone up that year

13:59Ian Wright: what I love about it is it's the same as like Semenyo Semenyo was doing all of this going through and how quickly it can happen so now he's done that he's come up now he's done that journey he's come up now with Coventry he's playing in the World Cup he's come back to play in the Premier League and bam different journeys journey people have to you have to hang you have to hang in there

14:17Gary Neville: you said last night you had a 101 yes you wanted to you wanted to bring back room 101 I can't remember what it was oh there was loads of things last night them seats we were in oh no what was the main oh no the jerseys you know when people when players wives and families are all going to the match obviously all the wives were in their jerseys with the players names on the back wow that is no right no children is fine but all the wives and partners wearing their jerseys with their name on the back. Wow. You not with me on that pitch?

14:50Ian Wright: No, I think that the wives. A year later they're separated most of them. Wow. And they're all getting pictures and they're like, look, and they're pointing at Jimmy or Johnny on the back. Wow. We know you're married, Tat. No, the children's fine. No, the partners. It's ridiculous. They all sit together in the same family section. I've got my jersey have you got your jersey no I'm not having it

15:15Gary Neville: I like it but there's loads more is that the only one that was the one that you said last day you said we need to bring back room 101 yeah it was that one

15:22Ian Wright: oh the jersey are you not with me on that no well the wives with the jerseys I don't mind it I don't know but why what's the point that's because her husband's playing and she's proud of him and she wants to wear his shirt I don't know it seems as simple as that but they only do it at World Cup they don't do it at Old Trafford or Anfield every week do they so what's with this World Cup I want to wear it. I want to put, imagine a woman going, I'm getting up, I'm going to put a football jersey on to do it with my husband's name on the back. Wow. Anyway.

15:55Ian Wright: Right.

15:58Ian Wright: I'm going to watch out for it now. Any more 101s? Ian, any more 101s? No, I'm happy with everything at the moment. You're just so happy. Yeah. I'm in a pecanty world, bro, so I'm just having a great time. What is that drink you're having? It's just got spice in it that I like, you know, I think it's tequila. Is that what it is? Yeah, I think there's a bit too much sugar in it if I'm gonna be totally honest. That's why I had to do the pellet in this morning. You know, to blast. You did tell us this morning? Yeah, I had to do, yeah. That's why you couldn't do breakfast. Well, I don't want to bring it up, but obviously I got the bill.

16:26It's quite expensive.

16:30Gary Neville: It's because he's getting it by the gallon. What did I say? What did I say to you? Roy, how much was it, by the way? No, no, no. I had a burger and Coke and it cost me$400.

16:41Ian Wright: It's sore, isn't it? Bro, I said to Roy, let me get these because I've got this. Did I say that or not? You did, but then you stayed in your seat. I'm going to say this. I get it, I get it. Go on, don't get it. I'm not that guy. He's like, kick off the mic. It's like a fullback, you're going on the channels, yeah? Go on. And he's like, moving. But it's just a sort. Listen, we'll get over it. But when you just have a bargain,$400, you're like,

17:07Gary Neville: and then you have to give him a$50 tip. To be fair, righty, you only went over and walked. I thought he was, like, debating with the guy. It was a long time. He's in the world. What?

17:15Ian Wright: He must have definitely said to him, how much was I drinking? I did check. Have I got enough of my account? I had to make a phone call to my bank in England. I think that's my last. Do you know, in future when I go up with cheese, it sounds a bit tight, I'll just have my own bill. You know what I mean? If I'm not drinking, I can't be getting paid for a tequila. That's what I said to you. Let me get it. You don't drink. I actually... Right, I just had a glass of wine in, you know what I mean? I said to him, let me get this, you don't drink, let me get it. And you said, no righty, with your hand, how you do, no righty.

17:45Ian Wright: I don't want to, I won't be doing it again.

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18:13Gary Neville: It was so quick and I thought we're devastating here. Brilliant. And then you go and concede two goals and you undermine. You undermine the work that you're doing in the pitch.

18:21Ian Wright: I know you're very hard on the fact that there's not enough experience in there, but at the same time, I thought they dealt with it on the job. They dealt with it.

18:29Gary Neville: The minute I switch my head back to the ball, he starts to make the run. Keep going. No, no, no, no. You're running offside. You're running offside. It's like, right, hammers so-and-so. Neville hammers Nico Warren. We know we're better than that. It should all learn from John McGinn. It should learn. Exactly. Oh, he takes it properly. Right, it's over there, you think, oh, it's been given away. Do I have to really sprint back here? Because I think we might win it back again. And obviously, oh, no. And then they switch it across and oh. Trouble. Do you know when he runs? It's beautiful, isn't it, when he's running on the ball?

19:02Gary Neville: It's absolutely beautiful. Remember Bear Wives? They should slow him down and give him a red thing, yeah. What's everyone's favourite PG-rated insult? I like knob. Knob? Right, clip it, let's go.

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19:23Gary Neville: and we are going to talk England. Let's go through it chronologically. So this is how I'd like to. I'd like to go through first half. I'd like to go through half time and Anthony Barry I'd like to go through second half and then we'll discuss the manager and we'll look at the players and what we think we don't usually do things in order we don't why are you doing that today I just thought it was nice just to go through start rather than just jump I think we should I just thought you know something the game had sort of three different parts to it then it was almost like first half was a different game than the second half and that middle half I must admit when the guy came on Anthony Barry to the interview I actually to be fair Well, let's get there when we get there.

20:01Gary Neville: Let's start. So, okay, first half. Let's go through that first half in terms of what our thoughts were in terms of the game.

20:08Ian Wright: Obviously, we won. I'm happy. But I thought it was a brilliant chaotic where I didn't expect Croatia to come at us. I thought they would have been playing that game where they kept the ball and we would have been pressing it. But they pressed us really hard, really hard. And you could see the nervousness about us because I don't think we were expecting that. I remember you listened to Tukul saying he was expecting Kovacic to play as well. Remember he said that. So I don't think that we were expecting them to come out like that. And when they did, obviously, once we got used to it and Emma broke it down brilliantly, how we can break past them.

20:43Ian Wright: Once we broke past them, obviously, it was good. But it was the end-to-end chaotic kind of vibe that I quite liked. I quite liked it. It was pretty cool.

20:52Gary Neville: You know what I mean? Did it prove that when we're under high press that the players we've got at the back and maybe in midfield can't play out under pressure? Or they were struggling a little bit?

20:59Ian Wright: I think it didn't prove that they can't because they did. In the end. Yeah, in the end they did it. So they'll be ready for it now. But what... They got caught for one and they got caught. Yeah, they got caught. But what it done was, again, like, Gary, I know you're very hard on the fact that there's not enough experience in there and, you know what I mean, playing in their first one together and stuff. But at the same time, I thought they dealt with it on the job. They dealt with it. Right, to be fair, at half-time, it's always that thing of,

21:27Gary Neville: If I'm in a dressing room, I'm a defender, right? So I think completely different than you. We're worlds apart in terms of our thinking around a football match because you see it from a completely and totally positive view from a forwards perspective and what you saw. You're right. You see it more balanced from both sides, and I see it from a point of view. If I was a defender and I go in at half-time, I'm thinking the strikers might be going in thinking we can get goals here, we're going to score goals, look dangerous, and they're a bit excited. but you've got half the dressing room sat over there thinking fucking hell we've conceded two they've cut us open with that second goal it was a brilliant goal to be fair the first goal we've sort of been done we've dived in we've keep us through his hands and you know Declan's sort of pulled out of position Nico O 'Reilly maybe he's not got back quick enough so there's a number of people but you've played most of your career on a team like United would play that way it was about goals and I was never happy Joey sounds crazy if we went in half time and it was 2-2 we'd be You'd be having a go at us for a start.

22:27Gary Neville: You'd be saying, fucking hell. Regardless of how the goals have gone in. Yeah, but if the goals are brilliant goals. I can hear the manager now saying at our time, are you lot in the back going to keep a fucking clean sheet this second half? You're killing us there. These boys up front are doing everything. I can hear him say that. You're nodding. I can hear him say that. And we're all sat there a bit like going under in our chairs. And I bet you.

22:44Ian Wright: I'm saying, even if the strike, someone scores two unbelievable, like, out of the blues. You know, you think, wow. So you're 2-0 up and someone scores two great goals. Are you still going in? No, no.

22:56Gary Neville: I'm upset about that because I'd be thinking, well, that's too... Right, honestly, the mentality. So you think at half-time last night, Jordan Pickford, John Stones, Nico O 'Reilly, Rhys on the second goal where Perisic makes up. You think they're not going in thinking, fucking hell, I've cost us there in the first half. That's what we're thinking, defenders. We're thinking that. We're thinking, yeah, OK, we've contributed towards two goals going forward. We might have done some bits going forward, but we've conceded two. and we're a little bit on the sort of back so my view is that our first half I was a little bit because I said I don't want us to our defence needs to settle into this tournament and be a strong foundation for us and I was really nervous at half time that I thought oh my worst but they sorted that out in fairness to England I think they did I think that when you look at the game even at 2-2 England were the better team you could see all the stats so you hope they show that in the second half even the hammer blow just before half time couldn't see the goal brilliant goal from Croatia brilliant goal it was so I think the game panned out the way you like on paper you're going they'll be Croatia will be they'll be hard to break down you know what did you think it would be like that first half before the game I think you never know what you're going to get in the first game of a tournament I think you always have to be

24:07Ian Wright: especially with the lead up Roy with the teams that we've had it's been easy remember you were saying about that they've had an easy easy campaign and obviously they're one of the last teams to play and I think they kind of explained a brilliant at half time and there was a bit of mad nervous energy so they hadn't played a proper game for a number of weeks and months come back weeks in terms of their club careers. So I thought the game panned out. Yeah. I think from England's point of view, after the game, I know we got into the second half, we go, panned out, we eventually ran over them in the second half.

24:35We scored a two, England could have scored six or seven.

24:38Gary Neville: Let's just go to half-time, Roy. You're captain of that team. You're in the dressing room. What are you saying at half-time? Because obviously we're going to get to what Thomas Tuchel maybe did say, but what did, I'm imagining you as a captain now and I've heard you when we've been 2-2 at half-time. No, but I wouldn't be panicking. I'd be going, no, but what would you be saying at half-time? You'd have that sense going, listen, that's... It's there for us. We need to settle down a bit, yeah. Yes, again, exactly. It's not big magic words, is it? It's going to settle down. You're on about defensive and up two goals, but it's great if you're a defender or midfielder going, but I'll tell you what, we're a hell of a goal threat.

25:09We just have to kind of liven up a little bit at the back. The second goal was brilliant. They'd be really disappointed with the first goal because they gave the ball away cheap. Yes, we did. But again, it's the first game in a tournament that's kind of going to happen there's no team perfect in this tournament and I thought the way things panned out for England getting to half time even if they had the manager had a goal then we'd go let's settle down there's a real goal we've got good options off the bench and it panned out the second half I think in a dream scenario for England they did overpower them and all the other teams watching just like England have been watching France and Messi and all these boys they'll be going no I'll keep it up for England I think it was good the hardest guy to football scoring a goal I think it was good to win

25:45Ian Wright: they look dangerous to set pieces This is really dangerous. Set peace again for England. Everybody's loving it now. The fact is, is that when Thomas Tuchel, when Harry said about Thomas Tuchel, had a speech, you know what I mean? He said a speech. That was quite telling for me because you know when a player comes out and says, the manager, he's...

26:03Gary Neville: Right, I thought what was more telling was Anthony Barry's quotes at half time to see an assistant manager come out.

26:07Ian Wright: Well, it's even more telling that he was really quite... He was. You said it, Guy. You said, God, that was a bit punchy. He's punchy. Because he's punchy, but then when you listen to Harry, and Jude Tuka was calm he was quite calm so this guy's kind of like I like the way the manager can trust him to kind of to go out and just say that yeah because they keep saying there's an honest group and they're going to be up front with each other and I think that was fine it was nice for a change it was strange because you don't see that has that ever happened have we ever seen this number two come out for England

26:40Gary Neville: to be honest with you I must admit when I first when they said when Mark said Mark Pugach obviously is presented on ITV says we're going to throw to Anthony Barry, the assistant manager, I thought it was just fucking weird, damn right. But they'd already known he'd said something. I know, yeah, but I just thought, not what we're doing, but what's he said? He's just going to be vanilla. Anyway, I can see completely after they put it in why they put it in because he was angry, wasn't he? He looked like he was angry. And you're right, Roy, it's very unusual to see a manager, let alone an assistant manager, come out at half-time and be as punchy as that.

27:12Gary Neville: Yeah, he was punchy. but I think but when you're playing a game and you know you have you know you have the team like Croatia were on the ropes I think it's good to have a go at them they're going it's not as if England were on the ropes where you have to go and go come on lads hang in there it was like lads get the job done finish this off because Croatia as we saw in the first half were sticking at it England were by far the better team but Croatia as we know they're on the ropes they'll keep swinging but get and that's that's a good that's a good sign that's where that's where I was at at half time I was a little bit angry.

27:45Gary Neville: Because angry for the fact that we looked so dangerous going forward. We looked like really lively lads.

27:49Ian Wright: When's the last time you've seen us like that?

27:51Gary Neville: We were so quick and I thought, we're devastating here. Brilliant. And then you go and concede two goals and you undermine. You undermine the work that you're doing in the pitch. Do you know something? I used to think that if we conceded goals at United, which we did, by the way, sometimes, and the lads up front were scoring goals left, right and centre, you think you're undermining the level of performance from the other players up top. So you've got a responsibility as a defence. You know as a striker, girl. To keep a clean sheet. Yeah, but as a striker, no, you can't think like that. But you can't have your cake and eat it, so you're on about being defensive and sitting in.

28:21The one thing you always say about teams, and you mentioned about our own stuff, or even when you're watching Solfer, you're doing games at Sky, you always say you want to see a bit of entertainment. I do. So they'll be in England win every game for two. Truthfully, you won't be that upset, will you? Not at all, no. Right. So I think that's the key.

28:36Gary Neville: But I think Tuchel and Anthony Barry were angry at half-time. The speech. Yeah, but angry is a good emotion. you're going to get angry if they were speaking at half time going yeah we had you'd be going I tell you what I want to see a bit of anger in this so when you do see

28:49Ian Wright: anger is part of the game and as well Gal when you're a striker and that's happening at the back you're not thinking about you're just thinking we've got these I bail them out don't worry we've got these I think that's what they would have probably been thinking at half time

29:03Gary Neville: Rooney I can remember Rooney and even I think Mark Hughes and a couple of the forwards at times looking at the defenders thinking what the fuck are you lot doing I can remember that a little bit, you know what I mean, of like, a bit of pressure being put on from the lads up top, saying that's, you know, a bit of a, even Roy, I think Roy, a couple of times I can think of Roy, what the fuck are you looking at?

29:21Ian Wright: Only when it's completely blatantly, like, obvious that you shouldn't say something. Yeah, but that's just, it's like a strike and misses a chance. If you're defending hard at the back, you go, oh, he's got to score that wherever we're doing our best. Oh, we would. That's the dynamics of a football team. Sometimes the midfielders want the wingers to do better, you want the defenders hey how many times a goal go in you look at your goalkeeper going you're hurting us here hey you've saved us today I think what we saw yesterday was the whole dynamics of a football match the ups and downs some poor defendants some brilliant attacking player your star men turning up good options off the bench their keeper was managed I really enjoyed the game and it was you know what it felt like from the first minute felt like a knockout game it was like we're not feeling no way into the tournament today going do you know what I've seen a couple of games I saw Brazil and Maka where I go almost shook hands at half time.

30:07We'd take the draw. It was like, no, no, we're going for it. So I think Tuku was like, they put a marker down in the first game, but of course, long way to go yet.

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31:17Gary Neville: This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet. OK, second half. Excellent. We came out. Start to the second half. What, a goal after two minutes? Yeah. Poor defender from Croatia. You're talking about England's defending, listen, I like Croatia, what they stand for, but that goal at the start of the second half, because guarantee, what do you, what do you think managers say at half-time,

31:40Ian Wright: start quick, give not in a way. You know what's good about it, is that they, they weren't tight enough, and the way we played out from that right side, and we, we punished them, and that's what you need to do, remember I was, in the build-up, Roy was saying about, we need to be ruthless, we're missing too many chances, and like, the way we played out, bang, bang, into Anderson, over the top to Jude, you know, obviously, I've seen Nani Maduweka with the guy who you're saying was like, you know, terrible. Four and a half's got to get across. But at the same time, it's the ruthlessness in which we went, goal.

32:09Ian Wright: And then from then I thought, this is it now. I think we'll be fine. I love, one thing I love about football, and I love when even the top players are running behind, right? Because you said at international level, and we're talking about the conditions. I know it was different, air conditioning, dialing, where everyone's going. Everyone's going to be, when people are running behind, you've played the thing. When lads are running behind you, I'm talking, it's a long way back, isn't it? Yeah, that's what I've seen Maduweka. Madueke was, Madueke, I won't quite. He was a handful. A massive handful.

32:33Ian Wright: You know when you've got that, because you get someone like, like Harry will come deep, and you see how many times Harry's looking to the, it's, George Graham say to me, Ian, for the first 10, 15 minutes of the game, don't come, keep going. Yeah, yeah. And that's what he said to, and so you've got someone like Harry coming deep, and then he's going, the crowd's just shitting themselves, they don't want that.

32:51Gary Neville: Was that 15 minutes after half-time the best 15 minutes from any team in the tournament so far? I think it was. I think so. Yeah, I think it was the best. I mean, I don't think... 15 minutes, I thought they were absolutely blistering. They were. I thought, wow. Look, they were good in the first half of the game. I can't remember enough games. That brought Nob Croatia back a little bit, didn't it?

33:09Ian Wright: But their goal, I know we're going back, but that goal that they scored, it was a real bolt out of the blue because it was pure quality. I don't think that we were nowhere near expecting that because it was, you know what, it was elite football in that little tight area, what they'd done. Elite football. And I love when a team does something brilliant like that where they look like they're on the ropes. and then bam they do something like that and it's just a reminder and it's a good thing for England defenders I mentioned that you go I think it's good to concede a couple of again if England won 3 or 4-0 everyone today would be going England are going to win it but you get them little reminders going hold on a second it just stops you in your tracks perfect it was perfect Croatia on the ropes but they still scored two goals against England and they remind us to England obviously particularly defensively as you switch off for a split second as brilliant as it was from Croatia obviously England would be looking and going lads just don't have to you know what as well Stop the runners, get tight.

33:59It was a brilliant goal from Chris's point of view.

34:01Ian Wright: Yeah, but can I say, obviously Jude's goal, but you know what I'm, because we changed our mind on Gordon because we watched that game against, what do you mean, was it Costa Rica? Thinking, yeah, he's going to give us more. But again, he didn't play very well yesterday. But then Marcus came on and scores that brilliant goal. I think as a sub, when the game's getting stretched, and again, you're the defender, and Rashford's coming on, you're out of the goal. And Rashford's in one of them moods where he's happy to run him behind and he ended up getting the goal. You're like, he's a handful.

34:32Gary Neville: Do you know, a few minutes before those substitutions, I think I said, I wanted him to bring Marcus and Rodgers, if you remember. Very few, the idea that he was brave and made them three substitutions at 3-2 up, there are many managers would have said with 3-2 up, he might make one. To make those three, to take off Declan Rice, which we'll come on to in a minute why he would have done that, to take off Antti Gordon, to take off Madweke, I thought his substitutions were incredible. I thought they were brilliant.

34:59Ian Wright: This is why with Thomas...

34:59Gary Neville: I thought they were really good. They were brave. They were positive. They were good.

35:03Ian Wright: But this is why we have to have faith in him because obviously before everybody's saying, well, you know, he's an experienced manager at this level. But he's sticking to his plan. And that's what's brave about it. Like you're saying, he's made that many substitutions because that's what he believes. Because that's his plan. I like that. Ian, the timing of the game is, well, then players come around, we're making England stronger. Not like you're going, all right, he's settling for this. this was we're going for it and it sends a message to the England lads again just put yourself in the Croatian players shoes where you're again you're hanging in there listen they're still in 3-2 they might get a goal back and these lads come on it's it's very unusual

35:40Gary Neville: for a manager who's winning in a big game and the team are playing quite well we were playing well to make three substitutions all at once usually would think that's a team that's either drawing that's desperate to get a goal back or they're losing I honestly thought it was really brave and positive to do it whilst we were winning. That is a difference. That is a... I think it's... We didn't make that many substitutions in the last tournament when we were winning match, I didn't feel.

36:06Ian Wright: Yeah, because we've got a different manager with a different outlook, a more positive outlook in respect to... And this is no disrespect to anybody else. This is a manager that, like I said, he's got his plan, he's going to stick to his plan. 3-2, 3-0, whatever it is. Yeah, right, that's a good point. Do you know what I mean? Do you think he was bringing them on anyway? Does he think, I'm bringing certain players on for 60 minutes? Because of the conditions or whatever. and the length of the tournament.

36:26Gary Neville: There's an element I think of, I think I said the other day, the difference between Gordon and Rashford, Madweki and Saka right now, and say, you know, Rodgers coming on, Bellingham is a higher level, but Bellingham went back one. I don't think there's that massive a difference between them. So the idea that you just let them blast themselves out for like 55 minutes, 60 minutes, and then you say, right, okay, you lot go on and go on. It just means they've always got, if they're a bit deeper, which we went a bit deeper, didn't we? Yeah, we did. You've always got that counter-attack because you've got energy.

36:52Gary Neville: And so you've never lost that energy during the game because you've got those two wide players being changed. I think we'll see consistently the wide players being changed. I think the full-backs will be changed. He brought Jed Spence on. He was brilliant. This is the importance of it. Jed was brilliant. Since he got the job, he kept speaking about having a harmony in the group. He's said that so many times because he does want lads coming off the bench because of the length of the tournament, the conditions obviously, which is going to get tougher. When you come off the bench, you're ready to go.

37:20You're not coming on going, I can't believe I'm so bad. but you put me there so these lads came on with a springiness there Morgan Rodgers I'm going to have an impact I'm not upset so that's why this happy travellers type of mentality and the players did have an impact and that's what you want from your players off the bench

37:35Ian Wright: but this is what Tuchel's done isn't it this is what people talking about he wants good tourists they all came on last night and showed that that's what they are you know people talk about Jed Spence and they're talking about he's a defender that would have been a great goal if he scored that if he scores that he was just stretching a bit but like for him to go from where he went all the way through he's got the license to do that.

37:53Gary Neville: It says to me he's more than just a defender. He made five subs. He also took John Stones off for Gaye, which again, you don't normally change centre-backs. You don't normally change Declan Rice. He took Declan Rice off at 3-2. I think that was precautionary. No, but he took Declan Rice off at 3-2. Yeah, but then he put Jude back there, didn't he? No, my point is to put Jude back one, who's an attacking midfield player, into a midfield two, whilst we're 3-2 up. There were only one goal.

38:14Ian Wright: Yeah, but then you're bringing on someone like Morgan Rogers, who we remember not long ago, we're talking about them two as, is he going to play instead of Jude?

38:20Gary Neville: But right, they're massively positive moves. He could have brought on Kobi Menuh. He could have brought on Kobi Menuh and left Jude where he was. He could have done it a different way. He didn't do it. He did it in the most positive way possible. They were brave subs for a manager at 3-2 up against Croatia, I thought. I think, again, then it showed the... Yeah, but he would obviously look at the game going, they're here for the taking. They're going to be different if they were like 3-2 and they're under the cosh maybe. He might not have made so many substitutions if that was against France or somebody.

38:48But again, when you're watching a game and you're a manager and you're smelling it, you know they're there for the taking. So that's why it's kind of, it's easy in that sense now to go, let's finish this job off, which they did. Jude went to another level in that second half though,

38:59Ian Wright: didn't he? Defensively, I thought he'd done well. Defensively brilliant. That's why you put him back there and then you can put Morgan Rodgers on just as attacking. And he done brilliantly well when he came on as well.

39:09Gary Neville: It is ridiculous. I said last night on the thing, the argument's over to be fair because we've been debating sort of like last 12 months. Everybody's been saying, will Jude start? Is he even going to go at one point, by the way? But that's what everyone does now. You debate stuff. Is he going to go in the squad? Yeah, I know. In the squad? People would say at one point, will he take him?

39:27Ian Wright: Did you hear in his interview, because it's brilliant to see me doing the interviews now, Gal, you mentioned that last night, but he said in the interview, yeah, I was left out a couple of squads, you know, I did. He was left out, right? I know that, but he wasn't going to miss the World Cup squad. Is that what you're saying? No. He was never going to miss the World Cup squad. I don't even believe that the argument should have been happening and that's why I've been on his heel forever. I would die on his heel because, and again, he showed why, you know what I mean, he is who he is, him and Harry.

39:51But it ended up being good management because maybe he did leave him out to go, just a little reminder. Yeah, because he mentioned it. And he's having his injury problems as well, to be fair.

39:58Gary Neville: Right, I touched on it last night with the interviews. People might think the interviews are not important. They're very, very important. They're very important in sending a signal to your own teammates. Forget the crowd or the fans or the media or us or whatever. If you're a player that says, yeah, I'll do the interview, you're taking responsibility and standing up because the English media can be difficult. And Jude, to be fair, Jude's got two routes he can go down. It's a route of, I'm going to do the minimum that basically I have to do because I don't trust them, I don't like them. But what you're then doing, Jude, you're the star.

40:31Gary Neville: You're the one that, to be fair, can take it on your shoulders. You're the guy that's absolutely unbelievable. You're a superstar. You're asking one of your teammates to do it instead of you, who's not as confident as you, who's not got as much belief as you. So when I see Jude come out and speak last night, He exudes confidence. I, as an English fan, broadcaster, think, Jude speaking. Do you think the opposition players want to hear from Jude Bellingham? And I'm not going to be disrespectful. Or do you think they want to hear from, say, Elliot Anderson or John Stones? If you've seen Jude today and you're the sort of Ghana players or you're the players who are playing England down the line, Jude speaking, he's standing up, Declan Rice is speaking, Harry Kane is speaking, it sends a message, not only to your own dressing room that I've got the belief, I'll take the responsibility.

41:15Gary Neville: It sends a message to the other players in the other team that says, the belief he's got, the confidence, not just on the pitch, but I believe it sends a massive message.

41:23Ian Wright: We don't know the reasons why it weren't happening before. You know what I mean? We don't know the ins and outs of why it weren't happening before. But obviously something's happened under Tuchel where he's now ready to be out there. Because remember, when we'd done the friendlies, when we'd done the friendly against New Zealand, him and Harry done it with Gabe. So it's something that's, being addressed, he's up for it, he's ready to go. And now in our first game, front and centre.

41:49Gary Neville: But Ian, look, if Roy Keane's the best player at Manchester United, which for many years he was, and he's the captain, he's got to stand up in the tournaments, in the big matches, which obviously he did. You can't push that responsibility onto players who, to be fair, will just go in there, do the job.

42:08Ian Wright: Yeah, but Gabb, we don't know what the reasons were before.

42:11Gary Neville: I just think last night for me, hearing him speak, I said to you before he came out, I said, I hope Jude speaks. Yes, he did, yes. Before he even came out, I said, I hope Jude speaks. This is a moment for Jude to speak. Yeah, and he did. And he did. And when it came up, Gabriel speaking to Jude Bellingham, I thought, right, OK, get in there. He spoke and he stood up. Do you know something? If we lose a game against Panama and making it up, Jude speak. Because I want to hear from you. I genuinely do. I want to hear from you. You're the person I think can lift us to the tournament. You can get us to the final.

42:41Gary Neville: And I just think the other players will think that as well. So I think that was only my thing.

42:45Ian Wright: I thought it was a really good, it was a positive move from Tuchel and the England camp for him to be speaking. Absolutely. Because he's leading, isn't he? He's one of the losers.

42:57Gary Neville: This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet. Just a quick one after the game. We never spoke about it, but I've never, I'm going to say this in a nice way. Declan is usually so prominent in every football match we watch, because he's usually everywhere. Last night, is there a concern? One, he was subbed after 60-odd minutes, and to be fair, Thomas Tuchel said, I never take Declan off. He said that at the end. And I can't remember any point in the game.

43:22Ian Wright: He said that he had a little niggly knock that he wanted to take.

43:26Gary Neville: But what is that? You can be a good quiet, if you know what I mean. Yeah, but is there a problem there, though, injury-wise? I don't think so. I think it's precautionary. On what basis, Ricey? What would be precautionary? Because of the amount of games he's played this season. The lord he would have had from us. No, no, righty, just on this, right, and I'm not putting Roy and Declan in a similar bracket. Roy Keane doesn't come off for 64 minutes if Man United 3-2 up at any game that's important. You don't want to take him off. Yeah, but we're talking about a different manager here. No, unless he's got a problem.

43:53Gary Neville: Unless he's got a problem.

43:54Ian Wright: Yeah, but the thing is, Declan might have had a little problem. He probably said to him, if you're feeling anything, just let me know after 60 minutes, Gal. I don't think there's too much deep. You don't want to... I wouldn't deep it, Gal, simply because... No, I mean, is there an injury there that we're not seeing or smelling? I think it's precautionary gow, especially at that stage. You know what I mean? You say Deca was quite... I thought, again, he was doing that running around. You know, he's doing that stuff where he's putting out the fires and that. But I thought... I remember Seppi's delivery, didn't they?

44:19Ian Wright: Oh, he was. But he wasn't as prominent as he normally would be. I know what you mean, but I still think he was a good choir. He was still a good steady away. You wouldn't say he had a bad game, did you? He maybe could have done better for the goal. When he was in that position, he started coming up. Yeah, but that's...

44:33Gary Neville: So, just a quick one. We don't normally do this. Can we rank the team out of 10? We can do 0.5s as well. So we'll go through the team from Jordan Pickford through to the subs. Go on then, yeah. OK, let's... Do you think Jordan should have... You know what, I saw it again last night

44:50Ian Wright: and I thought the way it came and the guy hit it, it came through players and he got his arm and it looks like he could have got more of an arm on it. It came through too quickly.

44:59Gary Neville: I would give Jordan... I think he should have saved the first goal. I think he will think that as well. he will definitely think he should have saved that first goal righty but when a keeper has a full hand on the ball almost and it does that they think they should save it I think I think what are you giving him? I'm giving him 6 out of 10 I'm giving him 6 are you giving him less? no no I was thinking more I was going to give him I was going to give him like a 7 and a half I'll give him a 7 7 average well let me just let me just let me just give you a stat I think Croatia had two shots Sungo in the first half and they both end up in our net which obviously the second one I don't think he heard anything about but my point is he never had a shot he never had a shot to save in the first half I can't remember him making much in the second half either so I'm not his distribution was pretty good some of the times

45:46Ian Wright: I thought yeah so what are you giving him then I'm happy to I said I'm giving him seven it's like seven's average isn't it it's like seven's just above average I give him seven seven isn't it yes okay we'll give him seven

45:55Gary Neville: we're being kind Rhys James I give Rhys James a 6.5 yeah

46:03Ian Wright: steady steady you know obviously people talk about the fact that it was it Paris which ran off him and again we're talking about a top quality player with an unbelievable little move so we kind of like slipped up there you I'm gonna do a

46:15Gary Neville: demo right here I'm gonna do a demo go on I can't believe you brought that up what he's now gonna do a demo I want to see it right about this Joe something cuz this is you know I'm doing this right so we can so I I've been done by this movement a number of times in my career oh we know that yeah we'll just get my right all your money oh yeah right so basically the balls there right with the center from a field player right you're looking at the ball your wingers here right you look at your winger right kieran come here please that's what i was going to say kieran you're just doing nothing there you might as well be peris your peris it's right so what happens is you look at your wing you think, right, he's there.

46:59Gary Neville: Okay? You then look at the ball. The best wingers, Giggsie was unbelievable at this, right? The best wingers, you'll look at me. The minute I switch my head back to the ball, he starts to make the run. Keep going. No, no, no, no, no. You're running offside. You're running offside. You're running offside. You ran in front of me, right? So the minute I look at you, I'm James, you're Perisic. I look there. The minute I go there, you go and make the run, and all of a sudden, it's, oh. Oh, gosh. And that is the key. But the only thing you can do, and Roy was speaking about, we play right back. What is it?

47:34Gary Neville: Go on, make the run. The only thing you can do is carry on running. Don't keep running. That's disrupting. You've got to block the run. Just to block the run. So the only mistake he made, he's did that, he's done that, and then he's made that, and he's just got to block it. And I've been done like that before. Well done, Kieran. Lovely, lovely, lovely. Well done, Ivan. Was it Ivan Parasic? Yeah, but he ran offside first. He ran offside the first run. So yeah, I've given Rhys 6 out of 10. 6.5? 6.5. Yeah, I'm in a good mood. 6.5. 6.5, okay. Konza, I've given 6.5 as well. Maybe 7? Yeah, because he was steady again.

48:15Ian Wright: I think if he's steady, he's probably 7, isn't it?

48:17Gary Neville: 7 out of 10, Konza. Yeah, steady. Let's give him all 7. Stones, he... No, John Stones, I gave 6. He dived in. The goal. Oh, yeah. He dived in there.

48:27Ian Wright: He's got to do better there. He dived in there. The goal? Six? Yeah. Probably six, Johnny. Johnny, I love you, Johnny. Nico O 'Reilly, I give 6.52. Don't be blaming him for the goal. First goal? No. Because he had somebody behind him. I think it was on Royce. Royce should do better.

48:45Gary Neville: I'm not going to be critical of him. He's in the team for that because he's adventurous. He is. He's learning. He's mesmerising what he's doing. He doesn't sprint back. He doesn't sprint back. what does he got so what I'm saying to you well you didn't get back quick enough so the minute to be fair Elliot Anderson plays that ball someone flicks it on is it Jude can't be flicks it on someone flicks it on then we lose it is it Harry lose it I can't remember but the guy at that point when you're on the opposite side and again I've been by the way I've been there and done what he's done and I've not sprinted back hoping it's not gonna not gonna happen cause me a problem I'm hoping that you're on that other side of the pitch it's over there no it's over there right it's over there you think oh it's been given away do I have to really sprint back here because I think we might win it back again and obviously oh no and then they switch it across and oh so I think we do a demo so I'm going 6.5 for Nico and I love him to bits and you know what a player you know when you criticize the player please let's stop this for the tournament the two of you you know when you criticize the player stop saying but I love him okay we're just analyzing the game of football We don't have to say we love him or we criticize him.

49:56But do you know something, Roy?

49:57Gary Neville: Shall I tell you why, Roy, we have to say this? And couch it in that way? Well, I love him. Because do you know something? It's like, right, hammers so-and-so. Neville hammers Nico Warren. We know we're better than that. We're not hammering people.

50:08Ian Wright: Yeah, but now we shouldn't care about them saying we hammering them. Because we know we're not hammering them. It's not... It should all learn from John McGinn. It should learn... Exactly. Exactly. John McGinn. No, he takes it properly. Takes it, yes. But do you know something? Ying and the yang. We've all made these mistakes. I know, but you don't have to say you love somebody, of course. Yeah, I'll just stop saying that. I love him. He said I love him. I love him. I love him. I love him. I love him.

50:27Gary Neville: I will. I love him. Nico's what, 6.5 or 7? I'll give him 6.5. 6.5. 6.5, yeah. OK, Elliot Anderson. I love him. We're loving that. Elliot Anderson, I'm going 7.5. Maybe 8. 7.5? 7. You've been hard on your midfield players. But I still love him. He was very... The pass, the pass. Roy, you didn't give it away there. Elliot Anderson did not give that away. He chipped the ball down the line, he got flicked on, and then it was given... I mean, I thought he was, to be fair, arguably... What do you think? England's best player along with Jude and with Harry Kane. I thought he was very good, Elliot Anderson.

51:04But when you give your marks, I took it. When I give my marks... 7.5? It's true. Let me give my mark. Go on, you're a 7 then. Yeah, you gave your mark. No one complains, I give mine. Oh, no, don't do this.

51:13Gary Neville: 7. I'm going with Roy. So we're going 7? I'll go with... Elliot, I think it's harsh. You go with Joe. That's seven. Yeah, but what did you do? I think it was 7.5. Right, well, that's fine. Okay. Declan. He said 6.5. Declan, I'm going 6.5 for Declan, because he was subbed after 60 minutes.

51:31Ian Wright: Set-piece delivery was good. Set-piece delivery, I'm giving him seven at least. I give him seven as well. At least. I always give seven. Why are you being like that with Declan? I'm not being like that with Declan. There's something, because you've got... I love Declan. But you're going with the injury. It's a precautionary thing.

51:48Gary Neville: Righty. the set piece of long seven exactly he played 60 minutes he didn't he didn't he's usually an 8 out of 10 every week I would not normally give him set piece of long I give him man of the match most times on Sky it's not a case of nothing to do I thought last night was one of his most quiet games I've seen what about good cut but we give him seven no problem I give him seven if you think he's the same as Elliot Anderson I thought Elliot Anderson played better than Declan and Lachlan Rice I'm giving him a bit more because he's Irish as well so I give him seven

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53:17Gary Neville: This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet. Noni Madweki, I'm giving him seven. I thought it was good. I'll give him 7.5. I would give him 7.5 as well. I'm happy to move up. Seven. Just so you can more to aim for us. I thought he was very good. I like him.

53:35Ian Wright: He's a handphone.

53:36Gary Neville: I got the penalty.

53:37Ian Wright: He was a handphone. He's direct.

53:39Gary Neville: He's quick. And by the way... Some of his deliveries are a lot better last night. It was a big game for him, wasn't it? Massive game for him. I'm going to say it. He's England's number one right winger right now. No, no, Pacayo is number one. But right now, right now, Madweki, just because of his fitness... How do you feel about him? He's got the edge. How do you feel about him? Do you like him? I love Saka. You know I love Saka.

54:03Ian Wright: You know something? You know I love him. I think that what we got from Nani last night is exactly what we needed. He was flying down. Exactly. He was an outlet. He was brilliant. So 7.5 I'm giving him. Yep, so am I. Nice one, Barry.

54:16Gary Neville: Jude Bellingham. I'm going 8.5. Yeah. Do you think he was that good yesterday? I thought so. I thought so. No, he don't work. He's class. Especially that second half. He's class. Do you know something? It's not said enough of this, by the way. Do you know when he runs? It's beautiful, isn't it? When he's running on the ball. It's absolutely beautiful. It's a beautiful thing to watch. Do you know when I was running? They should put it in slow motion and put some classical music on it. I was like a Volvo, right? It was a fucking struggle. You know what I mean? Ugly.

54:46Gary Neville: I was a Volvo.

54:49Ian Wright: It's used like an Aston Martin. You know what? Watch it. I'm not just saying it. It's so smooth. Have you seen it? It's beautiful. He'd done one run, then he laid it off to Nani Madwecki. And I'm thinking, it's a beautiful run. Is it like one of the women and beer watch? They should slow him down and give him a red thing. Yeah, give him one of the floats. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Give him a float. Someone should AI it for us. Beautiful. Jude with a float under his arm. And a red bikini. Put him in a red bikini. Dude's a bikini? It's not a bikini. I knew you'd say that. Why? It's a swimsuit.

55:21It's true, it's a swimsuit. Because it was all in one, see?

55:25Ian Wright: The trained eye. You're the trained eye as well. Sorry, man.

55:27Gary Neville: So, Roy, 8.5, Jude? Easily 8.5. Ace. Wow, you got eight. Eight. it's good it's good it's good he's naturally it's very hard to get Roy to say that a midfield player's performance is like 9 or 10 right it's like you because of the defenders and I yeah it's true I'll go with Roy thank you okay Anthony Gordon I've gone 6 out of 10 I thought he was quite quiet last night and just not like him usually he makes I really wanted him

55:54Ian Wright: to do well as well because that left side if he could get that going as well like he did against Costa Rica he didn't quite get going but footballers are more that way does it not everyone's going to

56:03Gary Neville: play well do you know what I mean do you know how to watch Gordon I always feel like he's a little bit of a silent killer. He makes those runs quietly but quickly through. I just didn't see him make them.

56:10Ian Wright: You know what does happen, though, sometimes? He does try to make that run off of it, but then they don't put it through. He's good at the Perisic run.

56:18Gary Neville: The one that's got one. Yeah, he's very good at that one. He's good at that one. Coming from there and into there. Do you know the test for Gordon now, obviously he's got a big move to Barca, and he's a talented boy, so that was a big game for England. And when you get to start in the head of Rashford, who's going to get it? And then some lads get it, you go, oh, and I know Rashford's right behind him. it's just maybe you know I'm on Bellingham Rodgers who's going to get and Bellingham goes yeah don't worry I am the man you go to Gordon there you go and then do you know what and then Rashford comes on does with the magic scores the goal and I've just thought something else now me and Roy want Rashford back in I've just thought something else about G by the way in the tunnel before the game I think I said this to you didn't I I was chilled right so in the tunnel before the game the cameras were on right and I saw Elliot Anderson who was playing his first World Cup match and the fierceness in his eyes he was having an out of body experience I'm telling you, he didn't know what was happening.

57:04Gary Neville: I was the same. Honestly, I looked at his eyes and thought, they were like fierce. Fiercing. And then he just went to Jude and he's just so relaxed. He's so calm. I thought, do you know something? I would love to have been like that. Would you? Yeah. He was just, yeah. I was like that when we were in front of me last night, but then when I got the bill, I was like...

57:23Ian Wright: You was like Elliot. When I got the bill, I was like...

57:28Gary Neville: Jesus. Took a turn for the watch. Okay, Harry Kane, I'm going eight. Out of ten. No, I'm going 8.5, easy. 8.5? I don't mind.

57:38Ian Wright: For that first penalty to happen, then him saying, give me the ball back. Give me the ball back. And the header. What the header that was. Oh, the header. Why do we still love seeing headed goals? There's something nice about a headed goal. Even the Portugal one. Yeah, that was beautiful.

57:50Gary Neville: That was a lovely goal. The best header in this tournament so far by a mile was? Which one? Virgil. Virgil's one where he just... No, Virgil's.

58:03Ian Wright: No, Gary. Virgil's was the best header. Oh my gosh. Oh, he just guides it in that corner. No! Not better than Neves' is. No way, because that's come from a long way. And he's got up and he's not just like... Beautiful, yeah. He's gone bam, bang.

58:17Gary Neville: What do I know about scoring-headed goals?

58:19Ian Wright: Great demos this morning.

58:20Gary Neville: Did you see how you've done it? Boom, boom. What do I know about scoring-headed goals? Not a lot. Right. Substitutes. Jed Spence, seven. Seven and a half. Seven and a half. Seven and a half. That would have been a great goal. If he'd scored that goal, he would have got an extra. Yeah, seven. I thought it was very good when he came on. Yeah. Very good. Morgan Rodgers, 6.5, did a little bit but not, yeah, 6.5. It's not a rough thing, that one. Mikayo, 6.5, 7. He's got the goal.

58:47Ian Wright: He gets an extra bit because he's arsed. Absolutely. A little bit on top. You know, like Declan with the...

58:52Gary Neville: Marcus, 7.5?

58:54Ian Wright: Yeah. 7 and a half?

58:55Gary Neville: You have seven. Just quickly. He scored a goal. We've raced through the subs there and we've got Jed Spence, Morgan Rodgers, Bakayosaka, Rashford and then Mark Gahey. But you know what? He'd still be delighted to get on the pitch. Mark Gahey. So you might play them subs as huge stone at the back but I think he starts the next game. I think Gahey, Spence and Rashford start the next game. Would he make that many changes at the back? I think so. You think so? at the back now he's won I think so I think he's the type I think he's the type of guy that will say okay you two on the left you're just going to flip between you whoever's you know anti you can come on yeah if I'm more the defensive one I think at the back I would probably go with Gaye in concert we spoke on before the game about having a settled back for players getting used to playing with each other John Stones can't play every game no of course not but would you make it again it's the two changes I would put Spence in I'm pleased about that to be honest I'd put Spence in Gaye in if last night you said it they took two punches with the goals and there'll be a question mark this morning they'll be looking at it and thinking how do we get more I think they'll think okay maybe Jed's a bit more defensively aggressive maybe and then maybe Gehi is one on one you know just Garner probably going to be Santé who's up front for Garner Semingo so you've got players that can beat players so I just think I think Gehi and Spence will come in and I think Marcus will come in.

1:00:27Gary Neville: I'd be surprised if he makes two changes at the back. So how many changes do you think he'll make, Roy, in that team? No, I don't know about the changes. I can see Rashford in one of two positions, but... You don't think it's at the back? You think Rashford in game, maybe? Yeah, I'm not even sure he would make the change. He's won the game. It's the first game and he's on about lads getting used to playing with each other, distances, communication. I'd be surprised if he made... Do you think he'll go same team then? Well, I could see maybe one change, but I couldn't see three, and particularly two out of the back four?

1:00:56I think you'll make three.

1:00:59Gary Neville: Minimum two. Let's have a bet. Okay, yeah. For charity, for Jill. Yeah, for Jill. For Jill's thing,£1 ,000. Fucking lovely. A jug of piquancy. Jesus Christ. A jug of piquancy. £1 ,000 for Jill's charity. Yeah. I'm saying minimum two. You're saying less than one. You're saying one or none. I'm saying minimum two. And defensively, you're talking about... All right, minimum two. All right. Minimum two changes. At the back? At the back? No, just in general, right? I know my issues at the back. I don't think he'll make two changes at the back. Oh, no, that wasn't the bet. No, that is the bet.

1:01:33Ian Wright: No, it is the bet. It's just the changes. You've changed the bet on the way. No, no, no. You've gone tight on yourself. I've just argued. I said Rashford could happen, but I don't think he'll make two changes in the back four. You've narrowed the bet. Yeah. Yeah.

1:01:45Gary Neville: He's edged the bet for himself. I think Thomas Tuchel will make a minimum of two changes in this next game to the left. No, I'm going at the back. My bet is at the back. At the back. I think he'll make one change at the back. You said two at the back. I do, but that wasn't... Oh, the bet's off. Sorry, Jill. Two at the back. You said two at the back. The bet's off.

1:02:08Ian Wright: He said cancel the bet.

1:02:10Gary Neville: Let's do that bet. Put two at the back. No, not two at the back. OK, I think he'll make two changes. One at the back and one on the left. You were saying two at the back. Two at the back and one at the front. You said Spencer Gahey.

1:02:20Ian Wright: You said Marcus Rashford. I think he will. And he said two at the back. That's what he said. I heard him say that.

1:02:26Gary Neville: Oh, my goodness.

1:02:26Ian Wright: I'm not even ganging up. That's what I heard. That's what I heard. You know?

1:02:30Gary Neville: Right. The next person we've got to judge is... We've got to give a mark to the manager.

1:02:37Ian Wright: Yeah.

1:02:38Gary Neville: What do we think of the manager's performance last night? Give him an eight. Easily an eight. Yeah, I think eight out of ten. Easily an eight. You know, he's done well.

1:02:44Ian Wright: You know what's really... You know what? Read his piece about... Sorry. See the piece about... Like, when he's trying to see the National... He wanted to see the players. And like the press and all the, was in front of him. And he says, you could see he was genuinely upset that they were that much in his face and he couldn't see. I felt for him. That right last night. Yeah, I really felt for him. No, I love when players get interviewed after the manager had a gorgeous half-time. You go, yeah, dead right. I mean, let's not, let's not take that out of the game. You know what I mean? Everyone needs that.

1:03:10They kick up the backside. So now you've had a few, what? moments with National Anthems last year, there's power. Old American one. What's happened?

1:03:20Ian Wright: No, it's when he had his cap. You know, no, I had to do it because obviously the Yankees, at the Yankees game, you know, before the game, they do the national anthem. And I was at the side of the pitch of everybody, all the Americans and I just, you know, it came and everybody, yeah, I, yeah, automatically as well. I just took my hat off and just went like, I didn't know what to do. I was like, I was like, Don't trump me off. Don't trump me off. But I just thought it was respectful. You know how people get, Then you have to, you said, I'd like to thank the military for it. Thanks for your service.

1:03:54Ian Wright: No, but I just didn't want to be disrespectful. Because you know, it's like, even if we're doing the TV and the national anthem comes on, if we don't stand up... But you're not being disrespectful if you don't sing the American national anthem. I didn't sing it. I just felt what they'd done. You just put the hat like this. You're humming it underneath your voice. I wasn't humming it. But you know, it's in your head because you know it. You've heard it so many times. But like, it was quite... It was like a flyover thing because you were there. It was a flyover. Look, I'm still holding myself like this now.

1:04:22Ian Wright: That was amazing.

1:04:23Gary Neville: Just to finish off, God bless America. God bless him. Does he keep the same team against Garner? Have the best. Have the best. What about the best? No, no, no. Just, Ian, how many changes will he make against Garner? Two changes.

1:04:36Ian Wright: OK, who are they going to be? I think Jed Spence will come in and I think Marcus Rashford will come in. OK. And you know what? Three changes. Oh. I think Mark Gaty will come in. No, do you know what? That's what I said.

1:04:47Gary Neville: Mark, you agree with me. I said Jed Spence, Gae, and you were arguing against me two weeks ago.

1:04:53Ian Wright: No, I'm not arguing with you because I'm feeling like that's what happened. I do two bets with you. Yes. Two bets. Okay, two changes at the back. No, two changes at the back, though. That's the big one.

1:05:01Gary Neville: No, that's not the bet. Never. Every time I hear you talking about back forwards, you have to get used to distances, communication. No, you're saying he's going to make two changes at the back. I think at the last game, if they win their next game, they go, yeah, I could see you doing the last game. What's Thomas Tuchel going to do in the next game for England? What changes are you going to make? If any. How many? I think he could make one. Again, obviously, if we don't know about injuries to Rice or whatever, but if everyone's fit, he could make one. Stolz or Gaye? Gaye is the Stolz. No, I'm thinking he's thinking, just let them alone.

1:05:31Leave them alone.

1:05:32Gary Neville: You're thinking Rashford for Stolz? No, I think he could make them changes if they win their second game and then he can start doing something at the back. But why would you change it back for? So you think he's going to change who then? I think he could make one change. Maybe. I've got doubts about it. Maybe Rashford. For Gordon. Maybe Rashford. Okay. so you think three I think three Roy thinks one let's see who's right in two three days time I think two now no got to change it £50 ,000 was won when England took on Croatia could you be next England are back in action against Ghana and another £50 ,000 jackpot is up for grabs it's completely free to play simply make your predictions now on the ITV7 app or website for your chance to win good luck 18 plus and TNCs apply

1:06:20Gary Neville: We've now got England's team for the next game. What do we think the score's going to be? And let's not forget, them conditions helped England, didn't they? With that pressing and overrunning people. Where's the next... We'll have more possession in the next game. Boston, later kick-off, 9 o 'clock again. I think 8, 9 o 'clock.

1:06:36Ian Wright: I'm feeling like I'm going to go... I think we'll score three.

1:06:40Gary Neville: I think 3-1. 3-1, I think Ghana could score. I do too. I think 3-1. 2 or 3-1. We're going to go for a collective 3-1. 3-1, I think.

1:06:50Ian Wright: I'd love us to keep a clean sheet, but... 3-1.

1:06:55Gary Neville: We're going to go 3-1. Harry Kane. Harry Kane's going to score. First goal. It's a good battle for that golden bird already, isn't it? Brandon Thomas Asante is going to score for Ghana. So now we're going to go into our ITV7 picks, which we had some fun with the other day. We did, but you're going to listen this time. We got there in the end. We got there in the end. We got there, Ian. What we did... We got there. I took us to the edge.

1:07:23Ian Wright: You took us right to the edge, gal. It was... You know what? It was quite fun to watch. Unbelievable. No, gal, I've not eaten. I'm not eating those before I've eaten. Is that a cookie? I'm not a cookie, gal. Roy, I'm not kidding you. It's unbelievable. A cookie. Honestly, unbelievable. Do you know what? I've enjoyed that. I've not been eating much chocolate since I've been there. I don't like America. I love to mate. Confectionary. Who's on this? Kieran, come on. Brady, you've got to go all over this. Be careful, this is on you. And don't be jumping in. That's golden boot. So today the question is, I want you to name

1:07:56Gary Neville: the last seven golden boot winners at the World Cup. How far does it go back to? What's the last seven? Right, so let's go back. It's 20 World Cups. Yeah. World Cups. So Qatar. Russia. Brazil. Brazil. South Africa. South Africa Germany South Korea and Japan France. Yeah, so the seven but let's throw some names ones we might forget Let's do the last one first. No, but just let's do the last tournament before land winners guitar Let's go Did he do a win is

1:08:35Ian Wright: He did when a dig off all and did win it. That's I'm saying to you Well, maybe you had that when could that be my soul? Camberland so I mean am I when did he win it no no no for land one when was he at United because it was after I was after in 2002 definitely wonderland seven more call but Diego for lunch you're locking that in yeah no we weren't ready to throw it in yes I asked I know you asked me very quick righty just

1:09:03Gary Neville: told back a second I mean to be fair I thought it was a bizarre suggestion my No, but he has won it. No, the kid, he has won it, he obviously. He has won it.

1:09:11Ian Wright: Back in the front. So how far are we going back to... Diego Follin has won it? Back to 1998. You're saying he was lying. 1998, so... The lad who bid for... R9.

1:09:21Gary Neville: R9? You're locking this one in. No, don't, don't. Do what he's asking.

1:09:24Ian Wright: What, what, all you're doing, you're throwing blind... I'm not throwing blind, but let me, you know... You don't even say to which tournament it is. We're in trouble.

1:09:32Gary Neville: It's 2002, are you saying? Yeah, yeah, I am. I'm going to go R9. I'm not sure he was even there. Because it was Rivaldo Rivaldo Ronaldinho Was he there then? 2002? Yeah Who played for Colombia last night? The lad who scored a couple of brilliant goals For Colombia Falcao? No Thomas you scored that brilliant Is it? He went to heaven Seriously guys I'm sorry I know that you I know that you lot thrive On sort of like James Rodriguez Chaos and fucking I just need to organise this Can we just go back to Qatar Right And start with Who the fuck was the golden boot winner in Qatar? I think it was Saul Campbell

1:10:10Hang on Who won it? France Mbappe So Mbappe Messi Was it a joint Could it be joint dancers There's both joint answers

1:10:19Gary Neville: Or was it Harry Kane It was the quarter final Mbappe You remember him getting Was it Mbappe So who won it Did he knock it out after the game Even though he lost the final I'm not getting nothing I think he did Mbappe You locking it in yet Yes Thank you A bit of order Hey me I fucking got it Eight goals. Thank you. Right, 2018. You get the other ones. 2018, it was Croatia in the final against... Harry Kane, I think 2018. I think you might be right. I know I'm right. But who was in the final against Croatia?

1:10:51Ian Wright: France. Didn't Paul Pogba. I'm sure Paul Pogba was... Yeah, you're right, you're right, yeah.

1:10:59Gary Neville: So, again, think about it. Was it Kane? Was it Mandzukic? was it Mbappe was it Giroud Harry Kane Harry Kane Harry Kane he's already I think he has won a goal Harry Kane if he's won one it doesn't matter what year he's won I think he was the first since Lineker Harry Kane go on we're going for it yes Harry Kane 2018 a bit of an order why do we don't why do we don't right we're now going to 2014 which was Brazil and Germany won it or the striker Thomas Muller no it was close about Was Klose still? He definitely retired by then. Are you sure? Klose wasn't there in 2040. Are you sure? No, he wasn't.

1:11:39Gary Neville: He wasn't. He wasn't. I'm sure he wasn't.

1:11:41Ian Wright: Not Gert. No, I think Muller was there.

1:11:46Gary Neville: The main guy for... I'm trying to think who else. Who was in the final with him? Argentina. Neymar was there. It was Neymar's tournament. He wouldn't score a lot, though, I don't think. Who questioned this? Who came up with this question? So who did they play in... So France beat... France battered them 7-0. No, Germany battered them. Germany batted 7-0. And Muller.

1:12:06Ian Wright: Could it have been Muller?

1:12:07Gary Neville: Germany batted Brazil 7-0. Yeah, this could be a good shot, lads. Who's the other goal scorers for Germany?

1:12:16Ian Wright: Podolsky. Not Podolsky. Not Podolsky. Maybe. No, no, no. Not Podolsky. He wouldn't have. I just wanted to see.

1:12:22Gary Neville: Who's the other players in that team? Oh, it was Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Lahm. Gertz.

1:12:27Ian Wright: Was it his name Gertz who scored a winning goal in the final? No, I think Muller.

1:12:30Gary Neville: Oh, yeah.

1:12:30Ian Wright: Mario Gertz. Mario Gertz. Yeah, but he wasn't. He didn't score. He didn't score.

1:12:35Gary Neville: Muller was a good shot.

1:12:36Ian Wright: I think it might have been... I want to go back to that one.

1:12:38Gary Neville: No, no, I want to keep on it. Who did they play in the final? Germany played Argentina in the final. Right, so who played for Argentina? Was it Messi? Messi, yeah. Right, Messi scored 16 World Cup goals. Right? I know that for a fact. Yeah, but like... He scored 15 or 16 World Cup goals. So when's he scored them all? He must have scored them in that tournament. No. I'm telling you. He's got a lot, Rhys. He's got a half-trick the other night. He scored a few in Qatar. He scored a few in Qatar. I think Messi or Müller.

1:13:11I'll leave that with you. He scored loads obviously in Qatar. If Germany and Argentina are in the final, he scored five or six games. I think it's Müller. What do you think? I'm with you. Do we get a clue? Does it begin with M? No, I don't.

1:13:28Gary Neville: That's a stupid... Messi or Muller. And then we know it's one of them. You can't get a clue that easy, gal. Can we ask... No, can't. It's 2014 now. Oh, right, so it's neither. No, we don't be getting them bloody clues.

1:13:41Ian Wright: Silly, Dad. Gary, that's really... But at least now, we know it's not them two. Why are you standing up? You're making me anxious. Yeah, but of course we don't know them, but that's not the point of the quiz.

1:13:50Gary Neville: So who are the other goal scorers for Argentina? Let's have a think about it. And Germany. Maybe we're wrong. I might be Germany. So who's in the semi-final then? Of course. I can't even think. We were well owned by then.

1:14:04Ian Wright: I'm trying, I can't think of, I always... The Brazils are hard, but to... No, I remember Brazil. Who's in the semi-finals? No, I don't mean, I mean the tournament itself. Yeah. I can't even remember who's in the semi-final. Can someone tell us who was in the semi-finals at least? Can you tell us the teams? Why can't you tell us the teams who was in the semi-finals? That's harsh. It's just teams. Take a big name. Spain in the mix. Is it from one of the finalists? No. It's not? Don't say anything.

1:14:32Gary Neville: It's not from Germany or Argentina? Don't say anything.

1:14:34Ian Wright: Gary, let's try and do it. Well, we don't do it, is there? If we get it wrong, we get it wrong with one more life left.

1:14:38Gary Neville: Have a go here.

1:14:40Ian Wright: David Villa. Spin? No.

1:14:41Gary Neville: Cristiano?

1:14:43Ian Wright: Cristiano? In the World Cup? Has he scored any goals in the... I don't know. He hasn't scored in the knockouts, has he? I don't know. I'm telling you this. This is what I saw the other day. Has he scored goals in the knockout stages? Just think of the big countries. France, Spain. Obviously you said Germany, France.

1:15:02Gary Neville: Who are the big goal scorers? That's what you think. Lewandowski, Zatan. No. Brazilians are... Who is Brazil? Neymar.

1:15:13Gary Neville: Muller. Messi. Wow. It's a tough one, this.

1:15:18Ian Wright: It is. It's really tough. No, you just keep thinking. Don't give in. It could be a bit someone... I really feel like Muller keeps coming to me. No, but he said no, no M. It doesn't begin with M.

1:15:31Gary Neville: Huh? It's not from the winners. It's not from the finalists. It's not from the winners. And they don't begin with M. Wow, this can't be Muller then. Let's come back to M.

1:15:40Ian Wright: The first person scored six goals.

1:15:41Gary Neville: Not a lot, is it? We're going to be kicking this.

1:15:45Ian Wright: What was that? Two and four? That was in Brazil, yeah.

1:15:47Gary Neville: What do we have to do? Do we have to get all seven? We have to get all seven, you have to do more lives. It's a fucking hard question, that. We did it as a team Oh did you? When B's come up with a question We did it and we got it Within three lives Ben had a blinder to be fair With the 1998 one I would have got it If I didn't have to pay for that bill last week But my head's spinning Is the 1998 one Or is it Dugary? Dugary I'm French Gary Neville Come back to 2014 Yeah let's go back to it

1:16:17Ian Wright: We're going to go to 2010

1:16:19Gary Neville: Oh lads welcome Who won the 2010 World Cup? Spain Spain or David Villa yeah I couldn't bank on it I couldn't get nothing and by the way they won it in 2006 as well didn't they no they went in 2006 who won it in 2006 Italy Italy won it Wow getting harder I can't fucking make anyone 2002 Brazil so we're gonna lose a life here

1:16:43Ian Wright: 2002 do you think it's Ronaldo dear I do think it was R9 right well we think R9's on there just

1:16:49Gary Neville: generally do it. Want to lock that in? Yeah.

1:16:53Ian Wright: Ronaldo, correct.

1:16:55Gary Neville: 2002. Brilliant. Well done. Eight goals, some goals that have. Remember as well,

1:17:00Ian Wright: he came back from injuries. Honestly, this was the one where honestly, people thought he was completely done. He came back and done that, won the World Cup. So when would Closer have been?

1:17:09Gary Neville: 98, maybe, by the way. Well, he's got the record. Yeah. I think he's definitely one of them. If you scored that many goals in the World Cup. I think we've got a goal for him, haven't we? I know. Yeah, we must have... He scored that in the goals. Closer. Closer. Closer, correct.

1:17:23Ian Wright: 2006. OK, yes. When Italy won it. Yeah. That was my one as well. I've got two there. Miroslav. Five goals? I know we're a team, but... Five goals in that tournament. Erm... You're missing 2010, 2014 and 1998.

1:17:37Gary Neville: Roy's been on the right lines with one and righty's been on the right lines. All right, of course we have. So what have you named? Verdea. OK, let's go with that one then. And how many lives we got left after that? One. One. I'll go with that one then. Everybody. No. Fuck off you. Excuse my language. No, no, go with the Columbia. I'm going with the Columbia. What's his name? He played the United Nations 34 now. He definitely got a mad World Cup. He went to Real Madrid for like 300 million or something. He ended up, yeah. Is it James? Rodriguez. James Rodriguez. James Rodriguez. Falcao. No, no, no.

1:18:10He played the United Nations. James. James. I don't know if that's his name. James Fielder. Remember the one he chested? He pretended to volley it. And he kind of cut back in and volleyed it again.

1:18:18Ian Wright: That was Ames Rodriguez. Have I got a name? Yeah, just not the right guy. You think he was him? I don't know if I'd asked his name. Ames Rodriguez. Did he play for... Correct. Six goals in 2014. He then went to Real Madrid off the back of this tournament. Well done, Roy. Hey. Can I... Where's the mic? Someone dropped the mic. No, I'd seen him, and I came up on the screen. I remember going, he wanted to call the school. Right, so he had a great... Didn't he? So what's the number... And then he had bad injuries after that. This is 2010 and then 1998.

1:18:47Gary Neville: Who won it in 2010? Italy?

1:18:50Ian Wright: Spain? You've got one life left, remember? I think it's Holland. Holland, isn't it? Dutch. Van Persie. Van Persie's got to be on there. Van Persie.

1:19:00Gary Neville: I'd say Van Persie in 2014. No, 2010, Ruud. Ruud or Van Persie?

1:19:04Ian Wright: No, Van Persie. We'll be a member of Ruud who won it. Van Persie. Are we locking this in? Last life? Van Persie. Incorrect. Have we lost a tree last? Just cool your jets, man! I thought it was a man person. You don't remember him winning a goal. Do you want to have a quick guess? The answer here was I did mention you were on the right lines, righty? It was Thomas Muller.

1:19:26Gary Neville: I fucking said Muller! You said it wasn't ends, I knew it was Thomas Muller! How can you say that them two are on the right side? I mentioned Muller 46 times. Who mentioned Muller first? Thank you very much.

1:19:39Ian Wright: And this last one is Davosuka.

1:19:42Gary Neville: We wouldn't have got that. We wouldn't have got that. Davosuka.

1:19:46Ian Wright: Thomas Munhoff. He's tapping. I hate that. You know what? That's my fault. I haven't enough confidence in myself there. Sorry, Jill. I done my bit, Jill.

1:19:54Gary Neville: This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet. Roy, you called me an egg when you said Sol Campbell placed the most World Cup for England. Did I? Yeah, you did. Yeah. What's everyone's favourite PG-rated insult? I've got a couple Go on What is it? Tool Tool It's your tool Your weapon Weapon Your weapon I like your weapon Tool Your mug Your mug

1:20:22Ian Wright: Your fucking mug Your mug Your fucking mug What's that guy said What's in the boundary He called you What was that Did he say Herbert What's that Yeah Is that rude or what Is that rude Yeah he called me Remember when he was just sitting there And he said You two Herbert He said You two Herbert I was like Fuck you What is a Herbert The first thing you're saying to people is just an idiot, isn't it? It's like mugs. Er... Call us herberts. Egg. Did you see how I said to her? I do like egg. Egg's good. I like egg. I use egg myself. Egg's a beauty. Egg's a beauty. Tool is good as well. Tool. Weapon.

1:20:53Ian Wright: I like knob.

1:20:55Gary Neville: Ha!

1:20:55Ian Wright: You knob.

1:20:56Gary Neville: Yeah. Knob! Right, clip it. Let's go.

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