Isak Drama, Gyokeres vs Sesko & New Season Predictions! | Stick to Football EP 89

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1:13Gary Neville: I'm going to go for a banana. No breakfast. That's unprofessional.

1:20Gary Neville: How are we, Kieran? Great, how are you? Very good, very good. Good summer? Busy one. You got a busy one? Yeah. Why? We've been doing the cricket and stuff, haven't we? Didn't stop for us. Stick to cricket. Yeah. I like it, by the way, stick to cricket. It's all right, isn't it? It's better than stick to football, isn't it? Oh, that's what they want to say. You can't beat this, can you? You sponsor? Yeah. That's good, doesn't it? And you've got the gear on. You've got the gear on? just wearing it casually you all ready for everybody? Ben, honestly the transformation of you Ben is unbelievable seriously Ben, honestly having a glow up

1:59Ian Wright: honestly

2:00Gary Neville: right, you ready for everyone? yeah I mean they don't normally ask me I like the pictures of the people who've been on very good innit you asked for that at the end of last season sir yeah it's nice that how good was Johnny Marr by the way? Brilliant. Brilliant. Hopefully get another musician on. Yeah. It's good, wasn't it?

2:24Did you beat me the last time? What do you think? You've got a good serve, haven't you? Is that table tennis table here for you two?

2:33Ian Wright: Where are you going to my back handle? Is this the warm-up? Oh, up to three. You're not moving well, Roy. My shoulder, I think I have a trap now. See, I'm going to have to get him on that shoulder. All right, whose serve is it? Two nil. That's two. Okay.

2:53Out of five. When you're good at sports, you're good at most sports.

3:00Yes, right here.

3:03Ian Wright: Yes.

3:06Ian Wright: That was a great thing to see that. What's wrong with it?

3:14Ian Wright: Yes. The angles I'm getting I feel like Alcarez I can't pick up the ball Couple more It's not 5-1 Yeah, I'd 5-2 then It's 5-2, yeah Oh no, James I like how you improvise there, James What are you doing? I weren't even ready Last one This is the winner 6-2, alright

3:39Ian Wright: Come on Last one Last one Stop your messing Have you heard of the or seen in the last few weeks the Ibiza boss? Oh, the fellow who's doing the dance? I said to him yesterday we were at Sky He's hilarious, isn't he? He didn't have a clue who he was You don't know the Ibiza boss? Why would I know who the Ibiza boss is? He's broke the internet for the last week You have to be leaving the cave not to see him Honestly, gal I love his hair Show me him then

4:09Gary Neville: Are we clashing? We get a new partner and then we just both put the same t-shirt on.

4:16Ian Wright: Yours looks different. Is it exactly the same? Exactly the same. Why don't you not check with each other? There's so much gear.

4:22Gary Neville: They're just promoting one t-shirt. But we're just consistent. We're uniform. We should wear the same, actually, every week. Do you think? Yeah. Like a team gal. Yeah, we should. Can we just live together? Can we live together? Look at that there he is. Exactly. He's a Geordie, isn't he? I've never heard of it. I've never seen that at all. I wouldn't watch that at all I would literally not watch that Let me see his face The Ibiza boss Let me see his face It's just his barn, it's that mad I love it, and the teeth Do you think that's funny?

4:59Ian Wright: Yeah It just makes me smile How is it funny? He just looks funny He's gone everywhere

5:10I've never seen that guy in my life And then everyone's doing copies of them on.

5:15Gary Neville: Ibiza Boss, do you want to come on, mate? Do you want to come on the show? Get the Ibiza Boss on. This is actually a new set. It's not the same, it's just a table tennis.

5:25Ian Wright: Is it only them four who gets a picture up?

5:28Gary Neville: There's no bins, though. No bins. This is a late birthday present from Anne.

5:32Ian Wright: Oh, I don't like presents. Are they rated? I'm 54. That's cool. I like that. You will have a big bag of money. I hope so. I hope something jumps out at you Oh we'll have a look in a minute No you should have thinking You didn't put one of them on Oh look at this That is cool Let me see that These are skullsies That is actually cool That is quite sweet I do that with skulls Oh man that is really nice Oh wait they've got you some shoes Oh they're nice That's what the lads wear That's the football pondage trainer isn't it Yeah that big white thing at the bottom Because you know Sky's got 214 games this season 215 games this is cool you can then follow us that's our little map we haven't heard that they've extended how many games have got this season

6:19Gary Neville: sorry I missed one last season I saw you having fun put it back on thank you cheers that is so cool these lads no I want to put that there Rhys and Ryan thank you thank you Onan and their first the only problem I've got with them is that their first store's opening in Liverpool and you're opening it oh yeah did you know that nice one nice one I wanted to help you know the brand you two look like you two look like your coordinates a little bit like a you know what that's a nice one you wore navy blue all day yesterday and you bought it again today have you got two t-shirts on or is that I wear navy I like the material navy blue in summer black in winter

6:52Ian Wright: were you doing media stuff last year days you know what that would be cool that's nice you can wear it out look I think they probably thought you would not do it why do people share that all the time I'd wear that in the summer with white jeans I think why do people think you don't want to do a media date. Don't ask me. I would have done it. Where did you do it? In London? Yeah. I've seen that with Micah. Yeah. It was all right. It was quite nice. Didn't ask. I didn't ask to go on the Christmas do. Sky Christmas do? Oh. Well. Yeah. You didn't ask. You weren't even asked. Did you go to the Christmas do?

7:28Ian Wright: Of course I did. I am the Christmas do. Yeah, he is. Did I go?

7:33Gary Neville: I couldn't go. Yeah, but you were asked. Yeah, but you were asked. I was asked. Exactly. That's not my point. They didn't ask my guy. Why would I not ask you that? I don't know, Jill. Maybe he felt like the Grinch. Probably because he doesn't like dancing. No. I thought I got through Christmas too a few years ago, Jeremy. You were there? I was there when I was asked. Was that in the snooker? Were you playing snooker? Yeah, when I beat you. But Jeremy doesn't dance.

7:51Ian Wright: Was it cool as snooker? He doesn't dance, but he's judging everyone. So he should have been there to be able to judge people.

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8:07You can't be angry with agents Well that's their job Roy Their job is to protect you I understand that

8:11Ian Wright: but your job is to train and play It's kind of shocking It is If we're going to be talking about It's shocking behaviour Liverpool need two attackers I'm not like fully invested in sort of breaking the bank for Ezek I use that word like are they robust We're four to be robust enough to play in week in week off I think he is hungry and he's come to the place right now where we need him Yeah So hopefully he can be the one if you're on about making things happen, you need to be sharp. And a sharp comes from off the field stuff as well. I think Chelsea look good. Oh my God, do you? Have you seen anything though?

8:41Glastonbury. she's still ahead.

8:48Gary Neville: So what have we been doing this summer? What was the highlight of the summer? Glastonbury. Was it good? Best weekend of my life. I told you, I didn't like it. Thank you so much. Honestly, it was so good. Have you been? No, I was going to go, but the actual set list wasn't very good. They're like the people who were on. They were... It was a bit... Pretty Springsteen, wasn't it? And I saw you again. Who were the headliners? Who were the headliners that were on? Well, Rod Stewart was on, but I actually missed that. Neil Young. Because I had a date. Let me ask you something. Does it matter who's on for people there?

9:17No, I don't think so. Not for me. I'm not a master. No, for people who are there, they just want to have a good crack, if you want.

9:23Ian Wright: Oasis at Wembley, bro. Yeah. That was, you know something. And again, was it Richard Ashcroft? You've got the gear on. I love Richard Ashcroft.

9:31Gary Neville: Richard Ashcroft's here. Aways is just below.

9:34Ian Wright: Can I be honest? I think so. Yeah, Richard Ashcroft is amazing. In warming up. I've seen him live before. He's amazing.

9:38Gary Neville: He's good. He's brilliant. The problem with Richard Ashcroft's set, it wasn't long enough. They should give him an hour and 10, 15 minutes. No, but they didn't want him to be too good either. Do you know what I mean? They didn't want him to be that brilliant because when the main guy comes down the lake, they're loving him. No, you can't be on for an hour and a bit. Everybody, yeah.

9:54Ian Wright: Everybody's loving their gear. He's more than what he is. I think he's an insult to say so many years ago, at Old Trafford, I went to see him and he's brilliant, but he's not going to be on for an hour and a half, is he, ahead of the main guys? No. Yeah. Oasis were brilliant. Oh, it was so good. Solid. The women's as well. Solid. They're very solid, like, very... Do you know what they've got? Solid seven out of ten? Do you know what Oasis have for me? There's too many Man City vibes, haven't they? Yeah, but they're Man City fans. Oh, I know they're Man City. We all know that, Ian. They'll have to keep telling us.

10:20Yeah, but... They love their team. Yeah, they just sing.

10:23Gary Neville: Relax. What do you say? Just sing. To be fair to them, one thing they do, they do just sing, to be fair to them. They don't fluff it, they don't talk too much, they just sing, to be fair to them. I do, they ask. They sing. No, but they do, that's one thing about them. They'll get modern politics. They walk on, they walk on, they sing, they get off, to be fair to them. That's one thing they've always done. But you know every song as well? That's the thing, that's the thing when I went, and what made the atmosphere so good, everybody in there knows every song, He doesn't even need to sing. Oh, my God.

10:55Gary Neville: Have you seen the video of him? By the way, he totally beat the boss. The boss? I just remembered. Someone sent me a video of him. The Oasis boss. Oh, my God. Carrier on a trade. Honestly, how many beers did you have? He's enjoying himself. I enjoy myself. Jamie, were you causing any trouble? No, no, no, no. Look at his eyes.

11:19Look at him. Look at him. Come on. that was on the way to the concert have you seen that look at his eyes

11:36hey travelling with the public on the tube beautiful how did you get there yeah I got a car I bet you got a private car yeah he was a private car are you enjoying yourself

11:44Gary Neville: what's wrong with that that looks good James I'm doing any harm mixing with the public on the tube that's where you can get yourself into a bit of other situations is like, if someone comes up to you and gives you a little bit of a nudge, you're, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you wouldn't retaliate, would you? No, not like me.

11:59Ian Wright: No, it was good. You know what, actually walking up, me and Mrs, we walked up to Wembley, it was a different energy. I thought it was going to be moody and it wasn't to a fair. Well, at all, no. People were just like, just so excited to see him. It was nice, man. Gary, you went 27th of July, didn't you? Yeah. Because you said, do you want to come? This was like about a month before and I said, no England will be in the final at the women's Euros, didn't they?

12:22Gary Neville: They were. Right, you were there at the end. Yeah, I was, yeah. It was good to see you.

12:27Ian Wright: Yeah, it was great to be there. Yeah, but I've done the same as what I've done with the Women's World Cup. You know what I mean? I'm over there, and then towards the... Yeah, it was the group matches, yeah, and get to the final. Well, to be honest, I was over there doing my stuff. You know what I mean? It wasn't like, what, did you think that the women were just going to go and win and I'm just going to check in at the semis? I said, when we get to the latter stages of the tournament, I'll be there,

12:49Gary Neville: Why did they, seriously, because I watched the semi-final, why do they know how to win in a big game? But how can they get over the line and the men don't? I don't get it. They've got some good players. They've got some good players, man. The changes off the bench, I think, were big, weren't they, like, in the game? She's really good at that, though, Serena.

13:08Ian Wright: But then you have to have people coming off the bench who are coming on to do something, like Chloe. You know, people like Chloe, like Michelle. Why doesn't she start, by the way? Is it just a case of...? Well, she's just setting her ways. She's coming off the bench, isn't she? And you know what I mean? She comes off the bench, you know what I mean? And she's kind of like accepted the fact, OK, I might not start, but when I come on, I'm going to do something. She always does. Right, see, the coach's record, is it in tournaments or just the Euros? Remember them saying on the TV, it was like, she'd been to like the last four finals.

13:37Five finals. Five finals. World Cup finals. Two with Netherlands and then three. Just finals. Three with England. One of the last three. Which is amazing. Well, yeah, in terms of the Euros, but then the last five finals, she was just, yeah. You know what, I was really pleased for the goalie. Yeah. Because of the situation with Mary Epps before her. It wouldn't have been easy that, would it? She pulled out at the last minute, probably a lot of focus on her, a lot of pressure on her. A lot of pressure, a lot of pressure. You know what, when she was younger, the doctor said she wouldn't be able to play

14:07Ian Wright: because of the conditions she had with her eyes. She had a really bad condition with her eyes. She couldn't see, she couldn't make, she couldn't work out the depth and the perception and stuff. he said no she'll never be able to play football

14:17Gary Neville: did David De Gea have that as well I think I heard something about it

14:20Ian Wright: but like with her to get through that we're talking about arguably our greatest women goalkeeper Amiri Earps she's pulled out and then she's coming in made some unbelievable saves you know what I mean distribute everything she went she did it she did it man she was fantastic I had a full month in Switzerland I lived my best life honestly beautiful isn't it so beautiful so expensive though burger and chips was like 70 pounds for what? yeah for what? you're joking honestly£70 yeah so you still got your jungle money oh god

14:57Gary Neville: this episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Arm Clothing anything else this summer? do you think it goes quickly? do you think like each season seems to like merge one into another like quicker every year? I've had a great summer you've had about 15 holidays I've had a great summer yeah no tournaments bit of a break I went on a cruise really enjoyed that did you? yeah I wasn't sure I would but down around there we were in Greece Montenegro Croatia what's is it is it English people on there or British people? yeah a bit of a mix yeah a mix did you not get either? no it was okay did you get any vibe

15:33Ian Wright: anything? it was okay I can't imagine no but it wasn't like a huge one it wasn't there wasn't two thousand people did you have a big how big are the rooms? massive we upgraded actually when we got on we upgraded too But it's not that massive. No, the room. Basically, it's on the 5B. Honestly, no, you sent me a picture of the room and the view as well. Show us a picture of the room. Were you on a cruise or a private club? No, for fuck's sake. Carry it, carry it. Just a picture. Take Jamie out. I've never found a cruise. I know what you mean. No, I didn't, but I enjoyed it. I haven't. But it wasn't one where there was, again, loads of people on.

16:03It's not like the private ones. Singers and bands in the evening. Yeah, all that stuff. How come it was just you who got the picture, I see? Yeah. I got one. Did I not send? Oh. I only send you negative stuff. Yes. Just take me half an hour to find it now. I see the happiness. Come on, show us the boat. Oh, no, I haven't got a picture of the boat. That's just, you're not getting a good... Yeah, but look at this. Around Croatia somewhere. What's the emoji? Did you call the split? Hard life, yeah. Ah, tree. Oh, I did not tree. No, I've got no picture of the boat, but on the boat, you're not going to see it.

16:38I know this might be the room. Yeah, this would be... Honestly, it's... You might have a quick... I hope there's nothing dodgy on that. Sorry, you get a vibe off that, don't you? Nothing dodgy.

16:49Gary Neville: Did anybody annoy you on the boat? Yeah. I love this. This is like a proper dad video, look. I can imagine you just getting completely and utterly annoyed by bumping in. No, I did the first night. That's a proper dad video, isn't it? He is the water. What were people just coming up? No, not coming up to me, but just being rude to other people. Some Americans. What do you mean being rude to other people? We were just being rude to other people. Rude to the woman who was playing the music and they were getting aggro with her and I stepped in. I knew you'd step in. In what way?

17:17Ian Wright: Like Jason Statham. You know what I mean? Lads, calm down. Something's going to happen to me over the other board. He's going to come in. No, no, no. Off the board. This is it. This is it. A nice boat, remember. But these lads were being, four of them. But the same age as me. They're older than me. Were there wives as well? Yeah. Wives are worse. they've been really rude to this woman DJ and they were like manhandle and I just went over and I just came down so I sat down and four of them came across like ready to did that? yeah yeah yeah did you have them? no no I didn't have them obviously it didn't kick off but it was pretty close

17:51Gary Neville: what's Teresa saying to you while she sort of she wasn't too bad with it your first night on no she did they were like really rude I had to put a marker down how long was it? I could please see you again the charity Sheila just good studs down the back of someone once they'd done their little No, it was still annoying the rest of the week, but I just kept my distance. And a couple of nights later, I saw him nearly having a few words with this other guy. I went over to support him a little bit, but it was all... It wasn't as bad as I'm kind of making out. You know what fascinates me about America?

18:19You know when you get on the lift with Americans? They're always talking, aren't they? They're always loud in a lift. I don't ever hear any of that. I sense more people talk in a lift. You should have seen this group. Always Americans. These group of lads were like... Even the first day they were showing us around the boat, this is where you go for breakfast, and it was just being so loud and rude to everybody.

18:37Ian Wright: So where's the point to pull him in line? Where's somebody to come over and say something? Somebody did. He's sitting next to you. Do you not have a conversation in a lift, though? I always ask people, like, what you up to? I can't wait to get out. Do you get your phone out? No, no, I just... There's something about being in a lift. It's just mad, it's just weird, and everyone's looking at the... It's just like, I think you can make a sitcom out of a lift. You know, it's just bizarre. I feel like everybody gets the phone out. Yeah, and everyone's looking at each other. I'm comfortable like that.

19:07Yeah, yeah. Gary, did you... Like Gary's face there, look. I was thinking of a podcast, I didn't. I think you'd like...

19:11Gary Neville: The lift, the lift. The lift. I think you'd enjoy... Have you enjoyed the cruise? No, I tell you what, I think you'd enjoy this one. I'd give it a thumbs up. Besides, obviously, you're always going to get a couple of idiots. But where you stop off enough time off, the food... I'm not a foodie guy, but the food was unbelievably nice. You get 20 % off with the discount code Keen 16. You boot online.

19:34Ian Wright: Is that what it is? Is that what he's just done? Yeah, he's just booked it. Did you go Marbella? It's not cheap. Is it not? But it was worth it, right?

19:40Gary Neville: Absolutely. Perfect. Went to Marbella. For the whole time? Yeah. Yeah. I spent most of my time in, like, a fire exit queuing up for Ryanair flights. They sort of check you in, but then they leave you in the fire exit. Stressful, isn't it? Oh, my God. It's stressful. I can't imagine that. It's 30 degrees. I can imagine going. A group of lads from North America, from Wigan, talking about... What's wrong with Wigan? Nothing wrong with Wigan. What are you talking about, honestly? I spent a lot of my summer in fire escape, lifts, queuing up for Ryanair flights. I went to Miami for a few days. I had a couple of days in Miami with three lads.

20:13Oh, yeah, you sent the picture. Yeah, yeah. I was laughing at that. No, it's a world tour. Yeah, you've done a little bit of a tour, Mark. I kind of like that. Do you know the best time we had in Orlando? We played crazy golf.

20:24Ian Wright: That's funny. It's brilliant. I love crazy golf. You love it? I love it, yeah. Oh, it's classic. It's a weird stuff. Have like the windmill going around. Did you get it through the windmill and everything?

20:34Gary Neville: Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, you've got to be the one that goes over and goes, I love that. You end up arguing, it's been crazy golf, and lads are arguing about the scores, and it's like, you're nearly kicking off at your mates. Oh, yeah, it was 200 fucking three-hands. Crazy golf. 200, 200. With your pencil. A four-over. Whatever it was. You always get a pencil. You get a pencil. One lad was doing the score, and it was like, nearly, nearly coming to blows.

20:56Ian Wright: Oh, gosh, not over crazy golf. That is actually crazy golf.

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22:11Gary Neville: Football. Oh, football, yeah. Football, football. We're going to start with the teams that are... Well, we're going to start with our teams. We're not making our predictions already, are we? Jesus. Yeah, let's make a prediction. We're just going to go through the six or seven clubs. So we're going to start with Liverpool. Good business? Yes. Good business or still a bit to do? Still a bit to do. Obviously a lot of players have gone, haven't they? But I think we said on here, didn't we, last season, even when they were odds on for the league later in the season, I said and I think we all agreed, they probably still needed six players.

22:48Three to go in the team. I think they're the three actually that he bought straight away. the left back number 10 Vert and the centre forward and that was before even Trent went as well really he was saying they needed six players so I think they're going to get at least one centre back maybe two What's happening with Canati

23:05Ian Wright: is he holding out or what? Yeah listen I don't know what he's being offered or whatever I'm sure he'd be getting offered a good wage if you like but if I was him I'd sign I'm not sure where he would go I think he's a really good player I don't think he's likely irreplaceable. When's he out of contract? In the summer. Now? No, like... Next summer. Next summer, yeah. Tommy's really worried there. He's left it late, hasn't he? But the thing, James, the other players, once a player gets into that, that kind of realms of, like, contract, they hardly ever sign. Yeah. We said that last year about the same situation with Liverpool last year.

23:44Lads of the last year, the two main guys signed, right? Yeah, but they're different levels. I think Liverpool, though, in the past, right, they're prepared to let people go for free. It's not ideal, but I think they're prepared to say, oh, we'll send a message to the restroom in terms of wages. If you go back to Klopp's team, Emery Chan and Wijnaldum left for free. They wanted more money. It's not with this. This is what we think you're worth. Now, we might sell you, we might keep you, but same with Trent. Obviously, Trent asked for a few quid. He didn't, well, whatever it was. And he might be the same, but I think it looks like they're going to get their life from Crystal Palace.

24:16Gary Neville: Devil's advocate, if you can, Arte, and you're thinking of extending your contract for, say, two or three years, but they're going to sign Gay and you said they might sign another centre-half, he's probably thinking, well, I could sign for three years, they get control of me, and I'm not even in the first team because they're going to sign two centre-halves to replace me. You wouldn't be thinking you're not going to be in the first team, would you? If they're going to sign two centre-halves that are proper centre-halves, he's probably thinking, yeah, I don't fancy me. Yeah, but if you're believing in yourself, you're going, yeah, bring it on.

24:40Gary Neville: But he might think... He's only got two centre-halves, he has to sign them. No, I know. But my point is, though, if he's signing a replacement for him as a partner for Van Dijk, which he probably looks like he is, he might think, well, I want to play every game because I'm getting on in my ears. Yeah, but then you look at Gaye. Can I think about 25?

24:55Ian Wright: Yeah, but you look at someone like Gaye, right, Gareth. You look at Gaye. Gaye, I think he... Why would you leave now? It's a World Cup year. You don't want to go somewhere you might not play because Canati's still there, isn't he? But, right, in your mind, it wouldn't be I might not play. Yeah, but the thing is, is that... You want to play in this particular year, though. If you're Gaye, you'd go to Liverpool now because I suspect Will he start? Will he start if Canati's there? Will he start? Canati's injury prone and the fact Canati hasn't signed as well the longer he doesn't sign I think the more the manager will say if you're not committed you're not signed this fella's not bad because before Liverpool had them two centre-backs and the lad behind when Kwanzaa was left that wasn't competition that was just an understudy he's an England international this is like I'm going for your place I'm fighting you for a position and the longer he doesn't sign But that's what drives the club forward right Yeah yeah and if they're buying from Palace how much would they be paying for him 50 odd 60 odd right no more the report yesterday was that a deal would be about 35 million for what

25:48Gary Neville: Mark Gagey how can they get him for that when they turned down 60 odd last year because he's a year for the time I get that but still I think he said to them I'm only going to Liverpool I'm going on a three next season but if you're going for that even 35 40 you must believe yeah I'm going there they're fancy man I'm going we've all been in positions when I went to United when you went to Arsenal you weren't thinking I'm going over there yeah there's competition there's brilliant players around you but you must be thinking when I go to United and Robbo and Inter they're going I'm coming after your position if you're going to go I'll just bide me time for a year they're going that's not good to us that's what drives the club forward competition for places winning the club do Liverpool need Isaac obviously they've signed Verst they've signed Eketike but obviously they've lost Nunes they've lost Diaz and tragically obviously God rest his soul Diego Giotta so they've lost three really fantastic well fantastic players I think two fantastic players for the club and one who to be fair was doing a good job for them coming off the bench Do they need a centre forward?

26:41Gary Neville: That's just different problems. Do you think they need them? Oh, yeah. Liverpool need two attackers. Liverpool last season... More, two more. Yeah. Now? Yeah, because they're going to sell Harvey Elliott and they're probably going to sell Kia Isak. So they do need Isak. Well, it could be another player. What I'm saying is I'm not fully invested in breaking the bank for Isak and me. I've seen you say that now two or three times in the last week, this idea of why would Isak stay absolute outstanding centre forward in the league? You watch him, he's amazing. Yeah. he looks like he's made for Liverpool in terms of his mobility, his goals, his movement, his closing down, everything that Liverpool would want.

27:16Gary Neville: Why would you not break the bank for him? Well, I just kind of would think Newcastle and Liverpool should have done a deal. So, if you remember what happened was Newcastle have got Isaac, they went for Eketike, they made a bid. Liverpool have been modest in the situation. They get in touch with Newcastle and say, right, does that mean you want to sell Isaac? That's what Liverpool did. Like a little bit of a... The more I look at it now, because Liverpool obviously want Isaac. The reason I'm not, it's not about him as a player. I do worry about how robust he is to sort of play twice a week for Liverpool.

27:51I just think when you spend£80 million on another striker who Liverpool think is going to be the next Isaac in Eketike, he started really well, it's only pre-season. And I know what you're saying there, Roy, about competition places. But I think when you break a British transfer record, which it would be 130 140 million that player plays virtually every game he only doesn't play when he's injured I would say would that be fair if you spend that type of money on someone and who is that good the back up then he's not back up he's an understudy for me at Katika and he's too good and too expensive to be that he's only going to play when he's injured and it's not where you go okay give him a year to bet in but then next year he's actually he's centre-forward.

28:37I don't... For me, I think it's being done the wrong way round.

28:40Ian Wright: You're saying they should just forget Isak now. But are they looking at it this way, Cara? What I'm saying is, I look at Ekotiki, I look at Isak. Liverpool missed them. Are you getting bogged down by his transfer fee as well? What if he was 60 or 70 million? Yeah, but my point being is, when you cost that money, there's a pressure on the manager to like, he's my guy, he's the guy. Let's use Salah as an example. Who has been... Salah's a superstar. Isak's a superstar. who has been Salah's backup for Liverpool he hasn't had any because he's that good a player

29:12Gary Neville: is that why they're signing him because they think to be fair Isaac Eketike Virts when Salah does start to go over the hill in the next 12 to 18 months we've already got the three ready to come in and now he's available and we can't miss out on him because he goes somewhere else they might be looking around thinking in the next two or three years we've got the best in Isaac Virts and Eketike how do you replace Salah's goals in the year or two I get that and I take that argument but it's a completely different position but yes you've got a great goal scorer and they're not easy to come by and I get that I just feel a little bit for the lad who's got 80 million and they're thinking he's going to be the next big thing

29:47Ian Wright: I'm not thinking about it he's started well he don't need to worry about what's going on with Issa if I'm a forward he's come in and done exactly what he should do I'm not worried about him I agree but you don't want to be playing players on top Pep makes the point Jamie he likes a tight squad but I still think he can get that quality but I appreciate it there's no point and having 20-odd players we're all about the same and I get it.

30:06Gary Neville: Liverpool had five last year with Gatpo, Jota, Nunez, Salah, and Zuzsa. But there's so many games isn't there? United, you go back at clubs who've had real success. We had four. Yeah, Whatever you might go, he might play one week. When you have them squad of players you do need a different mix of it. Roy, make a point though, is it about the money with you? Do you not like the idea of Liverpool looking like they're splashing the cash? Not that at all. As I paid another £20 million for Vates I think, wow, what a sign and he's 22 he's in that position he's a fantastic player it's not about the money at all but I know the point I'm trying to make is we've all played in teams where there's certain players in our team there's five or six in every team great team who they play and everybody in the dressing room knows that they play when they're fit so for Liverpool it's the goalkeeper it's Van Dijk it's McAllister now it's Salah then players play and there's a knowledge within the dressing room they're the top men so what I'm trying to say is he's actually going to be one of them because he's that good he is that good he's going to be that and I sometimes think when you have someone that good the backup behind them isn't that good because it's hard to keep that player happy and I know you talk about United and different players so let me use the example of Liverpool's title winning teams so last season Liverpool win the league they've only got Salah who's a star in the attack I would say and the rest all interchanged so you turn up to a Liverpool game you're not sure if it's Nunes or Jota or Diaz up front it could be Gakpo on the left it could be this one but we know he's playing Salah because he's the star and the rest interchange because they're all they're not 10 out of 10 they're all 7 out of 8 out of 10 and you can move them about when Liverpool won the league under Klopp they had three superstars up front Mane, Firmino, Salah you know every time you're going to Liverpool game that's the front three what's their back up?

31:54Salanqui Origi Rian Brewster an injury hit Sturridge what I'm saying is that's not competition they're understudies do you understand what I mean for me I think there's a difference between but the whole point is then they need more competition for over the last few years you're saying you've picked out a few times when Liverpool have won the league but the manager had a good look at them and was probably thinking well obviously the other teams are going to react to us of course they are it won't be as easy for Liverpool this year there's more pressure on them but if you're playing for Liverpool you've got to deal with that he would look at probably the PSG game where they go listen we didn't really it played well but it went out that's probably nights like that where he went we need more options it's not necessarily for beating and higher quality as well yeah higher quality player well listen so I think Jamie there'll be just moments in games where he'll go yeah my starting 11's fine we've won the league by 10 points and they've switched up with a few games to go I can't imagine that'll be the case this year and the manager will know that but go when we do play PSU we play Champions League or FA Cup I want better options than the lads you've just mentioned and I get that and I get what you're saying and that's why Jota what happened to him as you said God rest his soul is such a big miss from a football sense because managers are always wanting that player who you go he's good enough to start but it's not the end of the world if he's on the bench he's not going to be

33:04Gary Neville: you know Ekotiki might be that now Cara yeah but what I'm saying is I think for 80 million and watching him already I'm thinking he's too good to be that player I think he's got a bit more than that player I know but if you've got Salah Isaac and Virch you've got a world class front three and you've got Ekotiki to come off the bench or play in the games that they don't play plus Liverpool are going to play a lot of games this season And I get that. That's my fear. I still think there's other areas in the squad I'd like to sort of, Liverpool, to sort of strengthen before they spend that on it.

33:34Ian Wright: It seems the way it's gone about, everything that's happening with ISAC now, you know, in not wanting...

33:40Gary Neville: Do we like it, right? You've left Crystal Palace, you've left, obviously, clubs. Roy, you left, if you remember, obviously, Nottingham Forest, you had the issue with, obviously, Blackburn, United, both wanting you. They're terrible. Where are we at on Isaac in terms of refusing to play?

33:54Ian Wright: It doesn't look good. And you have to say, there's a lot of talk about what was promised to him, maybe through Stavely. I don't know what's going on. What did she promise him? I don't know. Maybe she promised him a contract, more money, whatever it was. But then obviously she's gone now. And maybe that's, maybe the gentleman's agreement. You're still a training player, right? You don't, yeah? Absolutely. How can he go back? I just think if you're a footballer and there's stuff going on, I'm always worried that when people say you were promised something, they're already on deals and again we talk about a lot of people sign a six year deal you get yourself a dog so all these but I just think if you're a footballer and all these are gone and you might be disappointed with the club but you think you might believe it I had it with Forrest but you still want to train and play because you just think the benefits to me training and playing is if I stay or I go I'd be ready instead of going I'm down at Tuesday I'm going to go out and train with somebody else for a few weeks I can't even imagine ever since I'm not going back to train this would be different if Newcastle finished near the bottom and there was disarray and there was they've just had a brilliant season it's nice if he's a player out of the club I think he's somewhere I feel sorry for Eddie Howe

34:54Gary Neville: on this one because I don't think he deserves it of course he doesn't

34:57Ian Wright: no it's terrible behaviour is it's kind of shocking it is if we're going to be talking it's shocking behaviour I don't know what's happened with his agent I don't know if his agent hadn't done the job properly whatever it is whether you know if Liverpool were going to get him then Liverpool go and pay the 150 that's what

35:12Gary Neville: that was a point I made to carry yesterday if Ezek wants to be angry with anybody be angry with your agent not putting a buyout clause in at 70 or 80. We had the same a couple of years ago when Harry Kane with his brother. You can't be angry with agents. That's their job, Roy. Their job is to protect you. I understand that, but your job is to train and play. If you got into bed with an agent who's not doing a job, then you can't go to the club. I agree. You should have done a better job. I agree. Be angry with the agent.

35:34Ian Wright: But then don't sign a six-year deal with no clothes. Absolutely. What a new concept is it supposed to do? We've all signed contracts we look back on. I've got a few in there I can show you. You sign and you go, I wish I could have done that. Of course, that's life. But in your DNA as a footballer should be, whatever's going on in my club, I'm going to train and play.

35:53Gary Neville: Throw this forward, because to be fair, the big players in this are the Newcastle owners. So they're sat there in Saudi Arabia, they've got all the money in the world, and they're being threatened, blackmailed, whatever you want to call it, by a football player. The football player's saying he's not coming back unless you let me go to Liverpool. What do they do? Because I'm thinking it from an owner's perspective and thinking... Hold out for the value. I would 100 % I'd hold out Hold out for the value Or You then To be fair Set a precedent That any player Can come into your club And say by the way I'm not training I'm not playing And then you let them go Do they have to stand strong And say I'm sorry mate You're staying at this football club This season If you're going about it A bit of a better way You might have got out of it But you're actually not going But Gary

36:32Ian Wright: From Newcastle's point of view They've got every right To do what they're doing Do they sell him the right Or do they keep him I don't think They should sell him But they're selling For the money you want for him You can stay Do you think the matter of football for all the fans turn against now the season starts and he starts going a few girls of course they will listen to what fans are like you're a king one minute you're an idiot the next they'd be all over him Luis Suarez at Liverpool had a similar situation I don't know if it got this strong but he was actually going to go to Arsenal and Brendan Rodgers said don't train with the team and all that and he went and had the best season he's ever had and he was a god no one really remembers that as Liverpool supporters but I'm with you what did the Newcastle owners do with him?

37:11did he sell him? I think if someone gives him the offer that they probably wanted all along, wherever he wants to go or not, like, on every deal, you look at the offer on the table. So whatever his behaviour has been the last month or so, but if they get a valuation that they think, like any business. Don't cut off your nose and spread your face.

37:26Ian Wright: He's aging in him. I bring him in and I say, listen, you know, the way this has gone, yeah, we will sell you, but we're selling you for what we want for you. We're not going to just let you go just because you throw a straw. Sometimes you have to lose to win. They're going to have to take it. If you look at the club, your principals as a manager or as a club and go listen if we get the value of the player that they think whatever 150 let them go lose to win

37:45Gary Neville: you're going to lose a brilliant player if Liverpool get him is it just a formality that you think they win the league I think if they get I don't I think if they get Mark Gehie and Isak I think it's game over I love Prim Pong as well I watched them at City loads for the so you're saying if you get Gehie and Isak they win the league I think so I don't agree with all this like oh give them the league it's over and all No, I don't because... Yeah, I have it. The pressure. Give them the pressure. I've heard other people say, oh, the league's won Liverpool. They've bought all these players. Now, I agree they had to buy a number of players and they're stronger in the three positions I mentioned.

38:22But I was watching the charity shield. It's one game. I get that. It's friendly and different things. But there was a little element of looking at it thinking, is there actually too many attacking players? They've definitely got to get the balance right between the players that they brought in. because it is a lot more going forward. It's a massive statement from them though, isn't it? Winning the league and then going so hard on the signings. Did Liverpool do that in the 80s? I like that. Were Liverpool like that in the 80s when they were winning leagues and then going, we put a marker down, we go and get a top?

38:51I think they were famous for that. I think Man Utd, yourselves, when you put a marker down, you've been in the league and then you go by the way. You've sent a message. You've sent a message. I don't think this is like, we're doing this to send a message. I think Liverpool, all the fans are getting excited now we're spending all this money. Liverpool are spending this money because they need to I think Liverpool could easily go the next three transfer windows and not spend the penny that's what I'm saying it's not a case of oh Liverpool are spending the money Liverpool have gone we need to do this now and we're building this team why don't they just

39:20Ian Wright: pay the money for East Sackling they've got the money but Jamie I think the East make a point years ago about Liverpool maybe United you're buying a player you might go do you really need him I know yeah but that makes sure they don't get him there's all them silly games you go where does he fit in we'd walk the way around there's going to be 50-60 games where would East Sack go though

39:34Gary Neville: Roy I don't know. Because if you look at it now, if you think of what Arsenal have done, if you think of what Chelsea have done, what United have done, they've all got their business done. There's no one can afford the 130. It's probably more of a road, isn't it? Maybe a Barcelona. I think I've got that money though. In 12 months. But if the players made a point that he only wants to go to Liverpool... Exactly. Then they've got it all wrong.

39:54Ian Wright: Him and his management team have got it all wrong there.

39:56Gary Neville: On a personal level, I'd like to think that the Saudi Arabian owners of Newcastle go in and say to him, you're definitely not going this year it's a fact because of the way you've done it but you can leave next summer for then it's just going to

40:09Ian Wright: disrupt everything I get that but what I'm saying

40:12Gary Neville: I think ultimately it's slightly different but Cristiano Ronaldo wanted to leave after 2008 and I think they did a deal with him to leave the year after I think do a deal with him and say you can't leave now because of what you've done we can't be blackmailed but you can leave next summer for X amount of money but you're not leaving now you're playing for us is there something around the ownership because in that they've let Eddie Howe down you look at the mess at that club in terms of directors of football. They haven't got anybody there. They've lost two in the last two years. I mean, I know PSI had issues, they can't really solve that.

40:43But there's talk of the stadium. The stadium's still the same. I don't think the training ground's improved. These are things that you can maybe invest in going forward. And I was thinking about Eddie Howe. I love Eddie Howe. I think he is a brilliant manager. And I'm looking at England in the summer, Tuchel leaves, doesn't he, after the World Cup. Eddie Howe's won a trophy. He's got to the Champions League twice in the last three years. I'm not quite sure it can go any further forward. And don't forget, he had to deal with all this last summer. He couldn't buy any players last summer. They had to sell players they didn't want to sell because of PSR issues.

41:14Has an amazing season. He's got this on his plate now all summer. He's going into another season, got Champions League football. He's probably thinking. Do you know what, though? I do think of the England job. I'm thinking one more season at Newcastle. You know, Jamie, for all the stuff that's going on at Newcastle, his temperament seems to suit that. Inside, he might be raised. And, of course, we all show it in different ways. But he does look as if he goes... He does look as well. He doesn't manage that. I know management is about football, winning football matches, but he manages upwards, he manages the media well.

41:38Even all this hassle, he's kept...

41:40Ian Wright: You can see when everything's happened, because he's found out on the news and stuff, and you see how disappointed he is, but at the same time, very professional, very restrained.

41:50Gary Neville: How can they let him go now at such short notice when it's not in their plans? They've not replaced him. They've got a real problem if he leaves. I think for their season and for their success as a football club, and Newcastle are a big club, I just think they have to keep him for one year. if I was a club you've got to try and do a deal you've just got to try and do a deal you've just got to try and do a deal with him to say he can leave next summer

42:12Ian Wright: if I'm going to totally honest I wouldn't do I'd want to do a deal with him to get him out now I'd want to get him out now yes I'd want to get him out now because the rest of the lads now with the way he's acting he'll destroy he'll destroy the lads I'm telling you if they keep him there now especially yeah but Roy if he's going to stay there if you're a player he wants to leave they know he's going to be able to He doesn't leave. We've had loads. We've all been in a dressing room where a player thinks he's leaving and falls through. And even they've been... Yeah, but that's not when they're called...

42:39No, no, yeah, yeah. We've seen it all. And then they come back and a few weeks later, what, you want your top players available? What do you think they're an idiot? I'm not the biggest... If you come back and you start scoring goals, lads, it's soon forgotten.

42:50Gary Neville: There was a massive issue at United with Wayne Rooney. He was going to City and he put a public statement out at the time before a game. So this happened with Wazza. And to be fair, I thought he'd gone. I thought he was done. There's no way he's coming back from that. To be fair, about three weeks later, he signed an extension to his contract. How did you feel during the three weeks? Oh, no, to be fair, we made him apologise because he put a statement out before a Champions League game and me and Giggs, he saw him the day after. We made him apologise to the players. Don't do it before a game. We know you've got your fight going on with the club.

43:15Gary Neville: I thought he was done. You know, the instances I'd seen. And literally about two weeks later, he signed a new contract and he was back in favouring. I think United fans still have that little bit of maybe something where they thought he was going to leave to City.

43:27Ian Wright: He's not done the, I'm not training, I'm not coming back. come train he's not the kind of person it was a big thing

43:33Gary Neville: where you think it's gone it's over and then to fair Gibbs Wade a few weeks it looked like he was going to Spurs then he sends a new deal a couple of days later a hatman to players I'm not saying he refused to train I'm not putting him in that bracket but players have done a lot worse players have gone on straight who is Isaac wearing on September 1st who is Isaac wearing the shirt off Liverpool I think it'll be Liverpool I'll follow the crowd Liverpool

43:58Ian Wright: Liverpool Liverpool? They should pay the money.

44:00Gary Neville: I hope it's Newcastle. Just a little point as well. You didn't ask me the question, Gary. You didn't ask that question. No, I hope it's Newcastle. I think it will be Liverpool. I think a little problem is it won't get... Liverpool and Newcastle play each other second game of the season. St James' football. There's no way the deal gets done before, Dan. Six-pointer, aren't they?

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44:56Gary Neville: Come on up. What was that program you come up from the curtains and tonight I'm going to be... Tonight I'm going to be nice. It has in your eyes. It looks good. Yeah. I look good, but my heart belongs to Super 6. So, let's go. Do you not have that top in your size? Look at this. Look how nice this is to see. There we go. Look at that. Jill, you're going to have emotional stuff now with Sunderland. I know. We need a good start. Last year, we were messing with them. You've lost the last two years, by the way. Yes. Has this programme been on for two years? Yeah. For two years? This is our third season.

45:28Gary Neville: Welcome back to our Super 6 segment. Gary's won the past two years. Thank you. Gary and Jamie. Gary and Jamie. Gary and Jamie. Can we change that at the top, please? Can we put Gary and Jamie and can we put Roy, Jill and Ian? Uh-huh. Please. We need to be inclusive. Okay. It's just not about me and Roy, is it? We have some exciting news, though. Super 6 will donate£10 ,000 each to your chosen charity. Wow. And all you have to do is make a kind of hot take prediction for the season ahead. So that's something outlandish. A little bit out there. Liverpool finish seventh. Oh, I'll go with that. Liverpool not finishing the Champions League.

46:05Gary Neville: There you go. What? It's an outlandish one. Do you actually believe it? But he's just said it. Anyone can say anything. Who knows, Jane? Don't worry about it. I'm going to go for... Top scorer. Mad man. Before we say that, Jim, does anyone think the three teams will go back down who came up? that would be three years in a row that's a good one that's a good one all three years you've got to think it like I think one of the teams would stay up is that outlandish or is that realistic you would stay up

46:35Ian Wright: I don't think Leeds are going down I think Leeds are going down that's outlandish that's not outlandish that's what I think will happen you don't think Liverpool will finish outside the top four you're not understanding what he means it needs to be A hot take? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's outlandish. Do you want to explain what a hot take is, right? You're saying something that you believe that nobody else believes. Harry Kane coming back to top of the league. No, you don't believe Liverpool finish up top four, do you?

47:03Gary Neville: They might do. No, you don't. You know, they might do. They might do.

47:10Ian Wright: I'm going to go Harry Kane coming back to the Premier League. Oh, this is... Inside information. What, January? Yeah, I'm going to say yeah. Oh, wow. It's a hot take. That's the reaction. Yeah. Wow. That's the reality. It's not Leeds will stay up. You've got to change yours. To Sunday. Right here.

47:27Gary Neville: That is a hot take, right? Right. Thank you. Jamie. Leeds are staying up is not a hot take. Reject it, Ben. Is West Ham in a relegation fight? Yes, boss. Or getting relegated? I think West Ham will stay up. Yeah, I think West Ham will stay up. Did she get relegated? Jamie, they've just bought that keeper from Leicester. He's not bad, is he? He's not bad. He's losing every two minutes. You think West Ham is stronger more than maybe more? Remember the other guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not a hot take. to finish top six. I was going to say that, Jill.

47:54Ian Wright: Man, you're like, out of mighty, a fool in a united. Well done, Jill. Thank you. Finishing top six. Fenger and Ash used to cry when they got in the top four years ago. Top four, the Countons are happy. Is that what you're doing? A hot take? Carrot and Roy got a hot take from you. Remember he said that? No, he said it is a trophy. He said it is a trophy. Is it not a hot, I think a hot take. A promoted team. No, it's not a hot take. No, it's not a hot take. Could someone go down hot enough? Could Brentford go down? Brentford have lost some of the players. They've got a new manager. Brentford to go down is Royce.

48:26Brentford to go down. Wow. No, I'm just having a conversation. Is that a hot take or he wants to happen? Can I do that? He's got a little devil in his eye.

48:36Ian Wright: I do like my Harry Kane one. They've lost their best players, Gary. Ian's hot take. I want to go with Bournemouth to qualify for Europe. I like your first one, the Harry Kane one. You like the Harry Kane? Yeah, but I've got so many hot takes, bro. I've got roasting takes. he's got roasted if anyone wants that one but Bournemouth who's the first manager to lose his job oh that's a horrible I don't like answering that you don't have to answer it yeah but just you know something not saying and you're right Jill not like anyone answer that but I think that Wolves might struggle

49:07Gary Neville: give us a hot take on your favourite club that are giving you a bit of stick at this moment they will struggle Chelsea Chelsea's hot take hot take on Chelsea from you hot take on Chelsea on me I don't think Chelsea will qualify out of the Champions League group stage Hot take Oh, that is a hot take Hot take

49:28Ian Wright: See, that's a hot take What's your hot take? Your hot take weren't hot enough, Jill Yeah, it was Do nothing I've said, Lord, you've took all mine United top six

49:36Gary Neville: Roy, Roy, it's yours I'm going to say possibly two of the promoter teams to stay up There you go That's a hot take That's not very much Especially with what's happening the last couple of years And then what charities do you want to donate to? I'll go to... I'll do Older Hay Children's Hospital. I'll do MND, Derby Rimmer. The Keane Foundation. No. I'll go to St Anne's Hospice. Irish Guy Doctor for the Blaine.

50:03Ian Wright: I'll do Kevin Campbell. Kevin Campbell Foundation. Lovely.

50:07Gary Neville: Jill, who's yours, sorry? MND, Derby Rimmer. Right, so shall we kick off with Super Six? Before we start, though, Kieran, this is what you're playing for this year. Oh, now there's a trophy. Look at your finger looks on it Look at Jim's fingers on it You both got the same trainers Are they both on? They are on, yeah Can you give that to us Because we're the holds of that trophy He said it Have you seen that? That's heavy, bro That's as heavy as your golden boot We're the holders of that trophy So can we please have it? Thank you That's Cara

50:39Ian Wright: No, that's for this season There wasn't a trophy last year They're the holders It's a new trophy That is a nice trophy

50:46Gary Neville: That's this behind us there. Don't lean back, Jamie.

50:49Ian Wright: Can we see that? It shouldn't be there. They haven't won that yet. Who's this at Moyer-Champion?

50:55Gary Neville: Six footballs. Just another reward we want. Can we please engrave it with Gary and Jamie on, please, for the previous two years? And David Mize. Yeah, we should Mize. David Mize got your fucking points. We should call it the Super Six, David Mize.

51:07Ian Wright: Excellent. Gary, Jamie. OK. Brighton v Fulham. Brighton v Fulham. Brighton v Fulham. Brighton v Fulham, Cara. Brighton v Fulham, Cara. Cara Brighton v Fulham. David Mize finished. Got you over the lane. He did. You go first. 1-1. 2-1.

51:18Gary Neville: 2-1 Brighton. I love that. Solid start. 2-1 Brighton. Oh, you love a 2-1. Fulham start. I don't... You love Fulham and Borgon. I just stand up for a minute. Fulham had a poor preseason. Have Fulham signed anybody? No. Preseason don't mean anything. I'm going to be on the sub-bench for this. You're not. You're not left back. You're supposed to be decent. Who? I'm not sure his name. He let S2P on goal, didn't he, to Milan? 1-1? Yeah. 1-1. Let's go 1-1. I love a 1-1

51:43Ian Wright: Sunderland Sunderland will win this at home you know what we need for all teams to start well over excitement first game they're going to think oh it's only West Ham and West Ham do a job on them nah I remember one of the years ago they got promoted Spurs the first game they won 1-0 some manager was there I missed out big Spurs one do you want to go to a game this season I've got my season ticket yeah we're in prawn sandwiches are they yeah get sandwiches no you're in the prawn sandwiches brigade place, aren't you? What's your score? I think we've got two ones, son, don't we? Yeah, go on, son.

52:18Ian Wright: I'd have gone West Ham now. Righty. I think that it's going to be... Yeah, one one. It's going to be rocking. Tottenham, hot Spurs, Burnley. Spurs winning that, aren't they? Oh. Don't know. 3-1. Oh, this is Scott Parker, ex-Spurs, lads. Oh. Nil. Tottenham, righty. Remember last year, there's always twist. 2-0. 2-0. Spurs? Yeah. Scott Parker, ex-Spurs. Are you back in Tottenham this season, Gary? They've got a bit of business to do, haven't they? Is that Saturday? When do they play? Is these all Saturday, these games? Those need to do a bit of business. ESG, they'll be running ragged. I feel good for Thomas Frank this year.

52:52Ian Wright: 3-1 Spurs.

52:53Gary Neville: Spurs, Burnley. 3-1 Spurs, well done. Righty, no chance. That's on you. Wolves. Listen here, Burnley are getting resolved against Spurs. Wolves City. But I like it, you took control. That's what you've got to do. City win that. Is it you, Thomas? Wolves v Man City. City win that. Wolves v City. 2-0. 2-0 City. Love that. Wolves are worried for a bit of energy. Yeah, I like it. Momentum. 2-1 to City. Chelsea Palace. Oh. That's a tough one. Palace are a good team, aren't they? Did Chelsea draw at home against Palace last year? Chelsea have done well in pre-season. They're looking decent in pre-season.

53:28Oh, pre-season. Don't just say it.

53:30Ian Wright: Palace don't worry. No, they have done well.

53:32Gary Neville: 1-0 to Chelsea, you reckon? No. Just one. It'll be 1-0, will it? 2-1 to Chelsea.

53:37Ian Wright: No, man. I think Palace... Chelsea Palace. Go on. So I have a 1-1 or 2-1 Palace, I would have won. 1-1. Will you go 1-1? Go on, then. It's up to you. Chelsea win that. All right, then. Go on, then.

53:49Gary Neville: No, 1-1. 1-1. Love that. I wouldn't have found that. Can you in the league have to draw on your first game at all? Ben, did you know the jackpot is£1 million this weekend? Yeah, I did. I should have mentioned that. Thanks for that, Ben. They have to get all the scores correct. Yeah, if you get all the scores correct, you win£1 million. So it's worth playing. What, will you do? You can, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can get it. Anyone can. If we get to straight a million. Yeah, a million could. No. Would you share it? Yeah, we'd share it. Come on. This is a big game. This is it. This is a big game. Six-pointer.

54:20Gary Neville: This is the big game. Got to start well. This is the big game. I think we'll get so excited for these fixtures and then the rubbish. Yeah. United winning that. Prediction news. Do you think? Who's first? Is it us? I can't remember. Ian, we're going to let you choose. I'd go Arsenal 2-1.

54:35Ian Wright: Yeah, we're going to beat them. I think so. I think we are. That was a great game. I guess I didn't know I'm going to get a member. That was the worst game ever. Yeah, you were on. I think Arsenal know they know what they have to start. I'm going United. They have to start well.

54:46Gary Neville: You think United will win that? I had to turn off. Defensively, Arsenal are going to give up two goals. I just think it's a really bad game for Arsenal to get first up. I know, but a goal. I don't think it's a great one for Man Utd. Yeah, but is that I think United... It's an honouring goal. It'll be great if United can get a good start, of course. I think it's a challenging game for Arsenal first up. Of course, it's a challenging game. I can't see my guy scoring more than one in that game against Arsenal. Seth? Let's go. That's the Arsenal scoring too. But you're the boss, you're paying me. He's the boss, like the guy in Ibiza.

55:17What's that guy? Ibiza? It's the same shape. Come on, put his hair down a bit. I beat the boss, yeah.

55:26Ian Wright: And then really smile, girl. Show teeth. Do a smile, a big smile. That'd be for boss. Your hair's grown, actually. Thank you. Have you done it? Come on, come on. He wants United 2-1. 2-1 United. Thank you very much. Well done, Ben. Good to be back. I'm glad to see you, Ben. Cheers, guys. I can't believe you didn't go Chelsea win.

55:54Gary Neville: Let's move on. Arsenal. Arsenal. Right, last season, three problems. Injuries to Saka and Havertz obviously cause big problems, that's keep the players fit, but you had a problem in midfield where you've got Zubemende coming and you had a problem up top with out of presence really and Xhocares has come in. Does that give them the difference to win the league?

56:17Ian Wright: I hope so. I think so. Because then, you know, we've added to a team that I think is, you know, they've finished second three times now, and we've added goals to it now. You know, Zubimendi, especially with that mid-block, we can't break. Zubimendi, the way I'm playing, watching how he plays, he can break through there. We've got Xhokarasi, he can score a goal. But when you look at the fact that, you know, 17 goals, what was it, Liverpool? 17 goals, we were behind them the season before, seven against City. But defensively, we're brilliant, you know, against both of those teams. So if we can sort that out, and this mid-block, then yeah, I'm going to go for Arsenal again.

56:49Ian Wright: Cool, Sam. To win the league, yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Why wouldn't I?

56:54Gary Neville: They're stable Arsenal, aren't they? They're quite dependable. And you think about them players coming in, they were voids last year.

56:59Ian Wright: You know what's good about it as well is the renewals. Saka, good form now. He's probably going to renew. You've got Gabriel, Marga Yes, you know, Ethan. For Berta to come in, Berta's unbelievable as well. When you meet him, he's done unbelievable business. I said he got teams on, didn't I? Yeah, you did. I didn't believe it, but he's done the deals. He's got it done.

57:18Gary Neville: Do you think there was a little bit of hesitation from Mikel around Xocharez in terms of... You always get a feeling that he's got him and I think it's great and I think he'll do a real good job for it, but you got the feeling that he maybe didn't quite...

57:32Ian Wright: You know something? Everybody looks at his journey up to this point and the levels and stuff like that. I think that Mikel, if you're a manager, and I don't know how many winners it is that we haven't signed a striker for, Jane, but you're going to have some apprehension about what you're thinking and what's going to happen, because obviously Cesc was in the mix as well, whether he was going to come or not. But I'm not fussed about how Mikel felt about him. In fact, I'm glad that he's there, because when you listen to Jokka Resson, you listen to even Mark Robbins talking about every time he trained, what he saw from him was somebody that looked like he's in Ari, I need to get this done.

58:04Ian Wright: And when you look at his career with all the teams he's been with, everyone he's gone to, he's done it. He's got to that next place and scored the goals. He should be really hungry, shouldn't he? I think he is hungry and he's come to the place right now where we need him. He looks very calm. So hopefully he can be the one because I think whether Mikel want him or not, I think that his attitude and his determination to want to do it is exactly what we need now. I think Jochenes, he's almost had a little bit of criticism for his journey. How can he be that good? Because he was at Coventry and then Sport Lisbon is the league.

58:39when actually I think the flip side that should be champions that's for me that's amazing he's really gone he's gone around the houses and it's almost like for everybody else you know young players in the AFL thinking okay look at the journey he's been he struggled on loan somewhere I think he was at Brighton wasn't he

58:54Ian Wright: no he was at Brighton no he struggled on loan at Swansea as well yeah Brighton yeah the Brighton one and then he goes Coventry does well now he's at Arsenal but before that he went to Germany he went to Germany second division in Germany yeah and again he kind of like disappeared into it but scored goals and then they came back and obviously sporting Lisbon is where it really happened for him. And you just have to look at his journey and think to yourself, yes, this guy wants it. So he's now got to show us that he can go to that level of it now. People talk about who he scores. I'm not really fussed about that.

59:24And he'll get chances, right?

59:25Ian Wright: Absolutely. This is what, you know, even the goal he scored the other day, Roy, you know, there's a ball in the box. You know, yes, we got Kai in there as well. But there was something different about the way he arrived in there and flicked it in. It's just something that we haven't seen. Aggressive, wasn't it? What does Zubamendi do for the midfield? Because do you think Odegaard could have given you a little bit more at the end of last season? Does that help his position within the midfield? You hope so. When you look at Zubamendi, and we've got to remember, when we were doing the finals, this man came on for Rodri and nothing changed.

59:55Ian Wright: And you watch everything about him is progressing the ball, even when you watch him, he wins it, he gets it forward. We need that because we struggle. When you consider we haven't been beaten, We haven't been beaten by a top six side two years, right? But then we struggle against a Villa. Deep line. Or the Bournemouths and the Brentford. So we need a midfielder like him who is not afraid of it. He can turn, progress it through. Then you've got someone like Xhocares who can be there as well. You've got Saka coming in. I think it frees Rice up. Yeah. Exactly.

1:00:23Gary Neville: That's a big thing for me, frees Rice up.

1:00:24Ian Wright: And then again, with the left side, you look at Calafiore and probably Martinelli would be there. Because Martinelli wants to come in, Calafiore will go outside. because you know our left side is never activated. It's always the right side. So you've got them two. Then you've got Noni, Maduweki, and then you've got Miles, who wants to come inside. And so you've got Maduweki staying out wide. So you've got so many different ways of trying to attack a team now. The Maduweki was a bit strange. Do you think it's a strange one, the Maduweki? You know what? It's a strange one simply because it's another player from Chelsea for us.

1:00:57Ian Wright: And it's a player that Chelsea fans can take or leave. But again, when Sterling came, I was thinking, right, he can show them now. Listen, this team wants you. I think Maduweke is in the same position. Right, they're thinking, right, yeah, man, take him. Come and show us, because he's a player who can take people out of games. He's got the pace, he's 1v1. He could be that surprise package, right? He could be right. Sometimes a player comes in and he's under that radar and actually does it. I actually think, going back to Zubomendi, I'm convinced now, I mean, what Arteta did, Arteta definitely stole him.

1:01:29Oh, without a doubt, for Liverpool. Because when he'd agree to come to Liverpool, and he said he was coming and at the last minute he said I don't want to come I want to have another year but Mikel Arteta's from the Basquiat area there's no doubt he's been into him and said we're signing Moreno this season we'll come for you next season the deal was done about half a few of the season so he definitely stopped the deal that's why Zubamendi didn't go to Liverpool because I think Arteta got into him that's just managing you know what I like

1:01:55Ian Wright: about our team as well when you look at it there's a lot of competition for places name the starting 11 righty for me so obviously Ray and we got Kepa as well. I'm quite pleased about that. Got him for five million. But then you have to look at it because we had a goalkeeper last season who he was cup tied for fuck's sake. How's that work? So you're probably going to go... You're going to go Rhea. It'd probably be Timba, Saliba, Maga Esh and probably Myles Lewis-Skelly, Zubamendi, Declan, Odegaard, Saka Jokeres or Kyle Dono what that would be and probably it might start with Martinelli but I still think there's more players to come

1:02:38Gary Neville: when you look at Liverpool's starting 11 and you look at Arsenal's starting 11 if they were both to keep the majority of their players fit all season would you prefer Arsenal's starting 11 or Liverpool's what if they get Isak you see leave Isak out of it

1:02:54Ian Wright: Isak is the only centre forward I've seen in this league that's ripped our two centre-ups.

1:02:59Gary Neville: I think he's a... Just think about Isaac, for me, he's a guarantee. He frightens me. I think he's a guarantee. I think the ones that have been signed, Cesc Ojo, Jokre, João Pedro, Dilap, even Verts and sort of Eketike, are a bit sort of, you know, you think they're going to... But I think absolutely Isaac is a guarantee. Because he's done in the Premiership. Yeah, that's right, yeah. He's a different level, I think. Right, so do you think you... We were talking about... Who's the best 11, sorry? Just to finish off, who's the best 11? Who are you choosing, Arsenal's 11 or Liverpool's 11?

1:03:24Ian Wright: I'm choosing Arsenal's 11. I can choose, just like Jamie would choose.

1:03:27Gary Neville: Who are you choosing? Who do you think is the best 11 there? If both teams have them... I think you're the two best teams. I think just Liverpool would just have the edge in attack. I think they've probably got the better players in attack.

1:03:38Ian Wright: If Isak goes in, they've got it. Right, see what I'm thinking about teams who win the league and you think of City and Liverpool the last few years. And I said this to you yesterday. Normally, they have the best player in the league. So Salah, a few times, Liverpool. Kevin De Bruyne's been at the City. and I've always felt with Arsenal they were maybe a great attack and play a short I've always thought could Saka even though I love Saka I think he's amazing but could he have you know like could he be what Salah was last season 25 goals yeah but I thought Odegaard not last season the year before was very close to De Bruyne thinking oh he's getting not far from De Bruyne could one of them because I think that's what you would need you'd need somebody to be the best player in the league do you think one of your attackers could be that man I have Yeah, you have to hope that Saka could be that man.

1:04:25Ian Wright: I think that Declan Rice can be one of the best. And he's going to be a match. But almost be, not one of the... Do you mean the outstanding... Yeah, I feel that's what it might need to win the league. If I have to put a mark down, it'd probably have to be on Saka to do that.

1:04:38Gary Neville: OK, Xocherez, how many goals does he have to score in the Premier League this season to be deemed a success?

1:04:44Ian Wright: I think that if he scores 10 to 15 goals... 10? 10 to 15, I was pitching in, obviously. I thought you were going to say 32. Yeah, but people say things like, oh, 25. No, I think 10's low, innit? 10's low, eh? Well, they say 15 to 20, obviously, but you're talking about Premier League goals. Premier League goals, how many does he have to get to be a success? I'd say 15 goals. 15? Yeah. 15? 15 I'd take. I think 15's good. Honestly, James. I should be happy with 15. Do you? No, but at different times. I think in this time now, our time, you have to be 25. He starts every game, 15 goals. 15 goals.

1:05:18Ian Wright: I don't want to put him under pressure and say, oh, he's got 20, 25 points. Put him under pressure, though. No. I think that if he can get 15 and then go from there, it'd be magnificent because we've got to get the other guys involved as well. What did Haaland get last year? I don't know. More than 15. 15 times two. 15 every month.

1:05:36Gary Neville: No, I'd take 15 from your league. Have you? Can Arsenal win the league? Will Arsenal win the league?

1:05:43Ian Wright: Can I just say something, Nogal? One sec before you say it. Because like I said, I mentioned we were 17 goals behind them. If we can get someone that brings another 15. I'm up with 15 Saka but then you're saying no one else is going to score 10 no Arsenal player

1:06:00Gary Neville: scored 10 goals last season in the Premier League and I think I think Zubimendi will release Rice which means he could score 12 13 he could easily score 12

1:06:09Ian Wright: Saka can easily score 12 as well

1:06:11Gary Neville: you love Rice I love Rice he has to play higher up the pitch and Mikel Arteta knows that

1:06:18Ian Wright: what did you say I don't see one of the signs Zubimendi

1:06:20Gary Neville: exactly you'll see it with Zubimendi when he comes in and takes the ball off the back you'll see Rice move forward into a position where he needs to be anyway will Arsenal win the league

1:06:30Ian Wright: oh will Arsenal win the league I don't think it will

1:06:34Gary Neville: no no forget want will Arsenal win the league this season I'm going to say yes are you I'm going with Arsenal are you going for Arsenal yeah you know the thing I go back to Liverpool Liverpool on a bad day will score two goals every game even when Liverpool are off you always think Liverpool score three how many times even the Charter Shield weekend you might go Liverpool are getting off they still score two goals they score two goals every game so when you're scoring two goals on average a game more then that's hard that's good as a key I still fancy when all the new players come in last year I know if you play for Liverpool you expect pressure you said Arsenal are going to win the league I'm going with Arsenal

1:07:08Ian Wright: cool time we finished we finished second twice and three times bro and why should I go somewhere else I predicted the last three years so I'm not arguing stop predicting us you're a jinx stop it we've come second but I think that we've added stories you said Liverpool before I said if Liverpool get them players but I might thought I think Chelsea look good oh my god have you seen Chelsea look good Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea they've just offered a goalkeeper just offered a goalkeeper alone they can't unless they bring a goalkeeper if you look at their positions right if Rhys James is fit I think he's the best right back in the league I do Cole Palmer I think he's the best 10 in the league you've got Pedro I just think they've got I do think they've got a good team I think they'll close the gap and make it a top four wouldn't it be great if they won the league I know exactly and we'll replay this clip I'm not in the ground we let it we let it not with that goalkeeper I think Arsenal not with that goalkeeper I think Arsenal come in the league but they've got to change slightly I think they went almost those two players not change them though they've got to almost change the style we said this a lot last season it was very marine yeah and that's the whole point but it's still the manager what do you mean like physical you mean no what I'm saying is he's become a guy who wants total control on the pitch the best defensively in the league and we used to always say didn't we oh the best defensive in the league I actually think he's the other way around the team who got the most goals are on the front foot and I always felt he'd almost started here you know he's almost a Pep Guardiola coach and slowly as time had gone he's got a big powerful strong direct team set pieces and I think it's just gone too far that way I think Zimmerman needs to kind of he changes that so that's why he's got to pull it back a little bit with a more in control in terms of being on the front foot how many games did they draw when they were winning 1-0 and concede well that's the thing they've got to go on and score the second we'll ask the win the league no because I think the reason I say that is I think there'll be that much pressure on them even their own fans everyone's a bit like he has to win I think they've got to be careful with that Arsenal putting too much pressure Don't write City off

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1:10:47Gary Neville: Are you happy with where United are at in terms of the signings from where you maybe thought they would be at the end of the season? Yeah, yeah. I think a few attacker players who know the Premier League, at least. To me, over the last few years, they were bringing too many players who were trying to get used to the pace of the Premier League. They weren't robust enough, so at least they brought players in. The next challenge, obviously, can they do it for United week and week out? But a few signings go, yeah, looks a bit better. They've had their usual PR this season, you know, throwing up messages about the new trainer going that's well and good and fantastic and progress on that side of it.

1:11:17Obviously Marcus moving on, still trying to get one or two players out the door. Yeah, I think this summer's not been too bad for United. But obviously we go back to it, the proofs starts the weekend. But they've done the same last summer, there was a lot of good stories come out about United and the training was this and I know it's a different manager and he's had his first full pre-season. So there is positives, but I'll judge that over the next few months when we're watching them week in, week out. Are these players up to it? Are they robust enough? Are they still going to Are they scoring enough goals

1:11:42Gary Neville: Obviously last year I think Embermo and Cunha Have shown they're robust enough And they're at other clubs Yeah But now their next challenge Is what can they do For Man United I'm glad they brought players In who are used to The Premier League That's a plus But now the challenge For these lads is Yeah you've done it at Brentford You're done at Wolves Can you do it for Man United When you feel like Anthony Sancho Ganacho Very much sort of I call it jinky type Wide players Who are not really expansive In terms of being able To open the legs These do look profile wise A bit more A bit more A bit more pace A bit more power Obviously they've got more of a goal threat of course and last year if you look at the goals record for United even the final against Spurs you know not even scoring a goal in a final you're like they had to change that still a lot of problems of course Was that defensively Roy to 5 what are they going to do I think the priority was to try and get some attackers in to score goals if you're not scoring goals you're constantly under pressure at the back still use question Max you can't be here all day worry about the goalkeeper situation and defensively again have to get a goalkeeper don't they yeah seems to be but apparently he might be going to City but then what does that look like for Trafford I'd be surprised if you went to City if Edison goes that's what I heard this morning on the radio the goalkeeper's a problem for City Trafford obviously I like Trafford but I think City the goalkeeper there I think he's

1:12:52Ian Wright: Donnarumma not playing the other day he didn't play the other day that just happened who didn't play the other day? Donnarumma he was pulled out of the game so he's going somewhere

1:13:01Gary Neville: but if United were to get him and then there's talk of Belieber from Brighton which I can't believe they would find that what find that money you mean? I just can't believe they're going to spend£100 million on it. Brighton are going to want big money for him. I said they ain't got enough money. That's what I was thinking. Where'd I get this money from? You were months away from going bust, weren't you? Yeah. Was that your interview with him? No, but I just don't know how this would be fair. Honestly. Are the staff going to get their sandwiches back? I'm just thinking that people are starving.

1:13:27Gary Neville: Where does the£100 million? I mean, the Donnarumma one will be£30 million, whatever it's going to be, so that'll be fine, I would imagine. But again, huge wages, never, never, never long. The midfield does look worrying, doesn't it, with the Gartic, Casimiro. What's happening with Kobi Maynou? Joseph, I looked at Kobi Maynou last week and it looked like he'd physically changed in terms of he looked stronger, looked like he was more sort of like sturdy than he was before. And he lost a bit, I don't know whether he thought that.

1:13:49Ian Wright: Does he look sharp at all? Because that's the problem. Amorince doesn't think he can cover the ground.

1:13:53Gary Neville: Look, it's early. I mean, I thought that Kobi Maynou would be an absolute certainty to play as one or two midfield players for United for the next five, ten years. But it doesn't feel like the manager is fully on board with that. His name was mentioned with Garnaccio. Agathe's been very poor. I mean, we just have to say, He's been poor. Casemiro, obviously, we know about in terms of legs. So you've got Bruno in there. That's going to happen because the three up front are going to play, you would imagine. So it's who partners... But at least a treat. It's my mum. You've got to get it, gal. Get it, get it, gal.

1:14:20Gary Neville: Hi, mum. Are you busy? I'm just doing stick to football. No, he's not busy. Everything all right? Yeah, no, fine, yeah. I was just worried about mum and... Was she worried about, gal? No, it's fine, it's fine. I'll ring you after the show, mum. I'm going round for tea tonight, so he wants to know what we're having for tea. Chippy. What do you have? Have a chippy tea. What do you have when you go to your mum's? She's asking takeaway, or shall I make something? Oh. It's still pre-season. Have a chippy tea. At least United's attack, because then White president are dribblers and will get United up to pitch.

1:14:58So there's slightly less pressure on their midfield, don't get me wrong, but that'll still be the problem that will hold them back over the next year or two, unless they bring in players. but they have to start somewhere. They weren't going to bring seven or eight players. Do you believe it can happen at whatever it is? I'd be surprised if it happened. Yeah, I'd be surprised if that happened. Because I still think that he's got to do a bit more. You're not going to pay 100 million. You're not about buying big money for strikers or guaranteed. I still think it's potential with some of these players.

1:15:21You can't pay 100 million for a player that's still... You don't know where it's going to go. That's what I think. I'm excited about Kourou. It's a great opening game. I think he's brilliant. I think he just plays the game. He just loves the game. That's a great opening game. I'm excited. It's a great first game.

1:15:35Ian Wright: Unbelievable. I think United has a good game.

1:15:37Gary Neville: It's a brilliant game.

1:15:37Ian Wright: Brilliant game. 0-0.

1:15:39Gary Neville: No, no, no. No chance. Last one, Cesco. We know less about him. Obviously, we've seen bits of him. Because obviously, we've seen Santa Forge come to United over the last six, seven, eight. It's not been easy. There is going to be a pressure on him. Obviously, Hoyland's still there. What do we think in terms of Cesco would be success? Do you know what, Neb? Obviously, he's scoring goals, of course. United win in football matches. But the answer is, do we really know? Do we know? Can he guarantee your goals? You know the thing as well with him, Roy,

1:16:05Ian Wright: is that you look at Sesko. He can be hit. Yeah, he scored 13 goals. I think 38 games in the German league. Marmouche left in December and had 15. That says to me as a striker, he should be scoring more at that level. At that level. So you come into United. I think him like Jokeres, he's got such great ability and physical. I think he's going to be another... He'll get 15, I think.

1:16:30Gary Neville: You think so? I do, yeah. I do think so. I was saying yesterday, I think those three, if they could get 35 between them, which is like 15 and 10 each, and maybe 40 would be unbelievable.

1:16:40Ian Wright: But that is a worry, though, 13. That would be a... What's the worry? It's 13 for the whole season.

1:16:45Gary Neville: That would be a worry for me. But if you said to me right now, in his first season, if he gets 13 goals and he does get 10 or 12, I'd be saying that's 35. I'd say I'd take that now, to be fair. That's a good first season. What about if he got 10?

1:16:55Ian Wright: 10. No, no, no, seriously. What about if he got 10? because you just turned your nose up when I mentioned Xhokaris and 10. And now you're thinking about Cesc with 10. Xhokaris is a bit further on in his career, I think. I don't care. It's Man United and it's like you have to expect. I think 10...

1:17:14Ian Wright: Am I hearing this? The reason I'm stuttering is because of how...

1:17:18Gary Neville: I'm wondering how Kunia and Mbemo are going to do. If each scores 10 and the others can chip in with 12 apiece, I'd still say 35 from the three of them is a massive...

1:17:25Ian Wright: So I can't have that for Xhokares and Saka?

1:17:28Gary Neville: I said 15. I think it's a good result for Xhokares. I think it'd be great.

1:17:30Ian Wright: Yeah, but when I said 10, you turned your nose up.

1:17:32Gary Neville: Like you're smelling poo. No, because... Well, the reason I say that right is because I think Arsenal will create so many more chances. They'll have so much more play. They're such a better team. He's going to be in a better team. Yeah, he's going to get more chances. You're going to get more chances. You're going to get more chances playing for Arsenal. Saka is not going to get as many chances, I wouldn't have thought, as Xhokares. It's where I would be at with it.

1:17:50Ian Wright: Even with a new directness? No, it's changed. It's not the same attacking threat. It's a different attacking threat. Don't be putting United in the bracket of Arsenal, obviously Liverpool and Chelsea.

1:17:59Gary Neville: They're not in that conversation. So where do United finish? We know there's obviously a lot of teams that are better than them at this moment. At best, United for me. Top half? Easy. Eight or nine? Yeah. You don't think they can get sixth? I'd be surprised. Do you, Gary? I think fifth sixth would be like, that's what I think you should be aiming for. Absolutely, yeah. Of course. You look at Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Liverpool and you think it's difficult but I think they've got to be looking to break into that Villa, Newcastle, Spurs bracket. Wow. No, they have to be looking at it. They've got no Champions, they've got no Europe.

1:18:33Gary Neville: They have to be looking at that 5-6. You know, I agree with that. I look at some of the other managers in the league and Amarons obviously come with a great reputation. It's been poor. They've averaged a point a game. Under the manager. Now, I know it's not all about the manager but is Ruben Amarons a better manager than Eddie Howe or Unai Emery or Thomas Frank? I don't think we're not yet. That's what I'm saying. This idea that... I don't know if he's as good as the other... He's not as good as a manager as Runa Emery or Eddie Howe, I don't think. Time will be out. The only thing is, last year, defensively, the goals, the home record, they'll have to obviously improve on all that.

1:19:09He's got to get a goalkeeper.

1:19:10Gary Neville: I think the midfield player, if he got a goalkeeper midfield player, I think 56 would be, to be fair, achieve. I think without a goalkeeper, he's 89. If you haven't got a good goalkeeper...

1:19:19Ian Wright: Yeah, you won't do it.

1:19:20Gary Neville: It won't happen. And I've said it before, the number one most difficult position in English football, Man United goalkeeper. I think it's the most scrutiny that anybody comes under. I think they've got to get a... I've done a round of Martinas. When they said Martinas from Villa earlier in the season, I wanted him. His personality.

1:19:34Ian Wright: He's got the energy to take on United. Yeah, he's got that... He's got a big presence. But he's been saying that he's made a lot of mistakes last year as well. No, no. But in terms of personality and character, you think he'd deal with playing at Old Trafford, of course. I agree with that.

1:19:47Gary Neville: Jill, Manchester City, are we staring the obvious in the face that Rodri's going to come back in a couple of weeks and see if you're going to have Diaz, Rodri? Phil Foden's injured, isn't he? They got injured at the Oasis concert, didn't they? Did you go? You missed out. How long is Rodri out for? I don't, it's not too long. I think he said after he was international. He said a little knock on the rest. Has he had a little knock or something? If Rodri comes back and you've got Haaland up top, you've got Diaz, are we looking... Pep always wins titles every year, apart from one or two. is it just the obvious that we're ignoring City and thinking that I don't think we should ignore them like Reinders and Cherky I think they've been two great additions I know obviously it's only pre-season but I am excited by them I think just both footed creative players and then I don't want to jinx them because I mentioned them last year but Oscar Bob's back right wing I think there's talk of Savini or maybe leaving but Oscar Bob is brilliant with Harland do you think the goalkeeper is a problem from now on he doesn't make big saves I know but if they've got Trafford Oh yeah, but was he going to put Trafford in?

1:20:47I think we could get Donnarumma. I'm going to put it out, manifest it. Do you know what a city have stopped doing the last year? Stopped winning big games. They've stopped even at World Club Championship. I know, listen, take all that with a pinch of salt. That was a bad one for them. It did. You just thought when you go over there and you lose to a team from Saudi Arabia. And last year in certain big games, we all have this experience. It's Pep. Like you're saying there, Pep always bonks back. I don't think so this year. Do you think it feels a bit... Does it feel transitional?

1:21:10Gary Neville: He's never not won the league for two years on the bounce. In his record as a manager. I don't think he's ever gone two years without winning it. No, he's not gone two years without winning it. There's more time for everything, isn't there? If Pep wasn't the manager, I don't think I'd have any thought that I think City would probably win the league. It is Pep because of that. But then I think last season, I think Pep was the manager and how long they went without winning. It's like... I know, but they were four on the bounce. They were four on the bounce. The point I'm trying to make it, he was trying all different things like any manager would and you couldn't believe it wasn't winning.

1:21:39Pep looked like a normal manager, didn't he? Yeah. So it just shows you that he wasn't superhuman. So if he hasn't got the squad of players that is good enough to win the league, it is going to be...

1:21:49Ian Wright: That's what I'm saying. The goalkeeper's a problem. The goalkeeper's a big problem. But what I'm saying, what about the age of the players? Like you mentioned, even Kuschnoff, it's a young team. I think there's a transitional thing going on here that we're maybe not taking notice off with City. Maybe they don't mind them not having the pressure of City's going to do this. They're going to introduce those players in and see if they can just really surprise people. I think we need to keep players fit. John Stones is a... How many times have you said about Rhys James earlier? Yeah. But part of being a footballer, half the battle has been available for a manager.

1:22:21Stones never seems to be available. I'm not knocking the lad. Well, he's fit at the minute. I'm always fit every summer. Do you know that? It's fucking when the games start. I think Rodrius has to be back and be at his best. Right, yeah. And he's out to the ball. Is it October? Did you say you're slower the blocks? Well, you can't be after six, seven games. you can't be five, six, seven, eight points behind a Liverpool or an Arsenal. The City team years ago used to do that. You go, don't worry, they'll come back. But you look and you go, no, that's not going to happen now. You can't be hunting these.

1:22:53Liverpool are too good for that. Arsenal are too good for it. You're not going to hunt them down seven, eight points. That was Arsenal's problem last year. You've got to start the league like it's January already. You know what the madness of it is? Arsenal and United Sunday, for example. That's when I talk about United winning leagues. But you said one of them, you said Arsenal went to beat United 2-0. Oh, United beat Arsenal 2-0. you'd be almost like right now straight away if Liverpool win the Friday night you go Liverpool play the Friday night no no just say Liverpool win the other teams go you're already fucking three points behind them

1:23:18Gary Neville: after two or three days I think Mourinho introduced that back in the 2000s where you had to start he won the first game his first game was defeated you had to start the season like it was February you know what I mean Arsenal can't afford to do what they did the start of last season they dropped points in that first ten games they've got to start the season like they're in a title race from day one prediction start

1:23:34Ian Wright: Arsenal started well last year yeah we did start well

1:23:36Gary Neville: no they lost a play

1:23:37Ian Wright: we lost a couple of draws Arsenal won loads of big away games in the first seven or eight games. Tottenham away. You go back to Liverpool, even go back to last year, the first game at Ipswich, the first half. Yeah. But if you said that time, if anyone stopped, you're going, they're going to win the league by 10. But you'd be like, what? Liverpool? They were losing, weren't they? But when you say about City, I'm like, as soon as you say a top goal scorer, I still think it'll be Haaland. You speak about all these new strikers coming into the league, I still think Haaland with the... Obviously, Grealish has gone.

1:24:07Yeah, I like Martin. Do you think Forden can get back to his best, lads? Do you think Forden can get back? Are we getting one of them ones? Because it's Pep, because it's Forden. Yeah, I think he can.

1:24:17Gary Neville: Can I just say, Forden's won five Premier League titles, he's won Champions Leagues, he's had an unbelievable six, seven years. Do you remember that period that Giggsie went through at United, sort of like late 20s, where people were questioning him in terms of he was going to go to Inter Milan, he was out of the team, there was noises around him, he was picking up a couple of injuries from his hamstrings, and there was a bit of a doubt about him at that time, and he went on to play. you're going to have a period he's going to come out of it you're right but this period is always going to come in your career in what position for him though we know where Giggs was going to play Giggs has changed his position in the next 10 years after that but you've sat here before you know about Foden every player will have a dip you know that Foden's no different but then when you were pushing for Foden to get in England and then he was getting opportunities but what's your worry Roy with Foden what's your worry what's your worry that he can't come back I mean it's the whole package I always worry about players like Grealish I always worry about young players who've had unbelievable highs and who've won big titles and have been the main forward.

1:25:11What, the hunger, the lifestyle, the preparation? The whole package. What he's doing off the field, his relationship with Pep, position in the team. You have to be robust. Can he get 10, 50, like stones? To get back up to speed for players, it's not two or three games. To me, it's 10, 15, 20 games where your body just gets used to being, I'm playing again, I'm playing two or three days, I'm ready. Where some lads are going, I use that word, are they robust? Will Ford be robust enough to play in week and week? like he was. Did he win player of the year? Was that two years ago? Was that long ago?

1:25:40Year before. I do think Phil... So you'd want to keep going back to one, two... Because before you know it, it's another few months ago. No, that's two or three years ago, lads. Before, like, gigs, you had dips. Of course you did. But did it go on for, like, two years? I think Phil... There was a point for a season or so where... Phil, last season, played with a lot of injuries, I think, which weren't out in the media. I think he was playing through a lot of injuries. But whose fault is he then? Yeah, but I think City was struggling. But whereas now I think they've brought midfielders in, And I think a fit Phil Foden easily gets back to his best.

1:26:08But he's not fit, is he? He's missing this after the season. We're having a conversation about Phil Foden. If you're a manager, you go, talk about him all day. We spend more time here talking about players who were injured. You need to talk about players who were available for the manager. So if Foden misses the first month of the two season, City start well, do you think Pep's going to bring him back in the team? He's going to go, you bide your time. Like he's done before when he was a young player when we were all saying, Foden's got to play, send him out on loan. Pep's going, no, no, I'd bide my time with him.

1:26:30Don't worry, lads. I'm used to dealing with young players from Barstow and Bayern. And he brings them in. Then he was obviously amazing when he got a run of games. I think Foden and Greed, there's certain players, in gigs he may be one of them. We might be slightly different defenders and maybe even me, right? They need a sharpness. We didn't. We just reading the game and stopping people from them. But if you're on about making things happen, you need to be sharp. And a sharp comes from off the field stuff as well. Listen, we could go on sessions. I'd go on drinking sessions. I'd get away with it because my game is stopping people and being football intelligent.

1:26:58These lads, and beat somebody you can't carry that stuff that's a different animal that's a different animal you've got to be sharp Jack Reed is the prime example Jack's good Jack's good when he's playing 20, 30 games in a row when he's up to it and he's sharp but when he's not playing and sometimes you go but when's the penny going to drop for these players sometimes for us for me it was probably late 20 these lads you go when does a penny drop but sometimes you go when do you put the penny in because they can keep Jack can keep talking about this stuff and forwarding they've got to get all that package whether we like it or not you have to make sacrifices the diets the booze whatever it might be cut all that crap out or else you will continue to believe it or not when you're you know what you're doing off the field stuff guess what you do pick up injuries from it it catches up it catches up with the best of them do you think Everton's a good move for Jack do you know I think it is in playing every week the World Cup it's on the road from them David Moyes an experienced man Everton New Stadium he'll be the main man there I think Jack Jack Atavilla was the main man when he was at City he probably never was was he ever probably Pep's real favourite I know Pep fought his corner plenty of times We used to criticise him.

1:28:00No, no, criticise him. He's like, even though Jack had that first season and he won the treble and everything was great, we would say, but it's not the Jack Grealish of Aston Villa. But when you think about it, he's getting the ball at Man City. And even though he's in the team, there's still probably four other players in that team who you think, no, Jack, pass it to him. You know what I mean? You're giving it to De Bruyne, you're giving it to Foden and Bernardo Silva. When he's at Aston Villa, it's like, no, give Jack the ball. And then let him run with it. And when he's going to heaven, it'll be like, get Jack Grealish the ball.

1:28:25That new stadium looks fantastic. they're giving the ball. Oh, my God. All the supporters will be going there to watch Jack Grealish. It could be an unbelievable season. You want the Aston Villa Jack Grealish, you don't want the man sitting. Is that still in him?

1:28:36Ian Wright: Is that still in him? Well, let's see. Give him the ball, let him go and do his thing. We'll know when he's played again, a number of games. You don't judge him in the next first month or two. No. I'm just pleased he's going to play every week. Some players don't thrive under structure, do they? I don't think Cole Palmer did. I don't think Jack Grealish does. It was interesting, actually, that Shirky did an interview and he said like, oh, Pep said I'm going to get all this freedom and everything and I was thinking, just wait. He's like, you can have all the freedom you want, come and sign for City but as soon as he gets there, they don't get a lot of freedom.

1:29:05Where will they finish, Jill? Third. I'm going to go Chelsea, Liverpool, City Arsenal. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

1:29:15Ian Wright: Chelsea for the league. Yeah. Even, can I just reiterate, can I reiterate, with that goalkeeper, they haven't signed a new goalkeeper. I like them, I just think they've got a lot of quality. Levi Colwell's has gone out now, isn't he? Would Trafford might do all right? Would you think Trafford's up to it if he was thrown in? Yeah, I think he's a good keeper. Do you think Trafford could do all that? That would be a lot for him to be thrown into a city side now. How big do you think Trafford is? Tall. He's six foot six. Is he? No chance. Honestly, I said exactly the same. He's not six. Well, I read something.

1:29:44He's six.

1:29:44Gary Neville: Five foot six. Neb's four six. I looked at him. I looked at him at Bailey and thought, he's not ready for the Premier League. No, Jamie, you've been glassy. I read it in a newspaper I couldn't believe it Did someone get me the stats of Trafford Let's get the size of Trafford Is he 6 foot 6? Why do you believe everything you read Is someone googling it? He's 6 foot 6? I can't believe it James Trafford is 6 foot 6 That's the big announcement Is he a big 6 foot 6?

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