Roy Calls Out Carra, City Title Favourites? & Chelsea's Season Collapses | Stick to Football EP 126

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2:11Gary Neville: Wasn't the guy that was calling me a **** through Manchester on Saturday night, was it? No. He might have been calling you a **** though, I don't know. I don't know. Do you want to come in? How are you? Where have I met you before? 21 years ago this week. That's a clue. 21 years ago this week, so what's that? 2004? Yeah. April? Yeah. 5. Where? 5. 12, 25? What would that have been? April 2005? What was I doing? Goodison Park. Did I boot the ball at you? Did I?

2:56Gary Neville: You are, you arsehole! Oh my God! You can come and sit in for a bit. Hello, I'm your... How you doing? What's this? You okay? How you doing? You might have heard me talk about it, Roy, you might remember it. I don't know if you're at United, so basically... He was playing. He was playing the game? Yeah. No, I don't think he was. Was he? Scolzi got sent off as well. Yes. Give me a clue. Stand there at the end. So 21 years ago, 2005, I played at Goodison Park. The ball goes over into the stand. I'm right back. Some guy, him, picks it up and literally launches the ball at me. On purpose? Yeah. And it hits me in there and it bounces at my feet and I just boot it back at his head.

3:40Gary Neville: But I missed him. And he hit a kid. Oh, my God. You came over to take a quick throw-in. Yeah. It wouldn't happen now because of a multi-ball. Yeah. I kept the ball and you were saying, give us it, give us it, give us it. And I was... Scared. And then somebody put the ball up to make a sub. And then I threw it at you. And it hit you. While you were making the sub. Did you throw it on purpose? Aggressively. Did Kieran find you? From Ormskirk. Three mutual friends. So one of my close friends. Wow. It's Kev's brother. So one of my close friends up there is dating the daughter of... My brother. What a story that is.

4:19Gary Neville: Wow. You got sent off for it, yeah? Yeah. Jeez, you're not happy, girl. I wouldn't be happy about that. I don't know how I'd... You did overreact, you just threw it back at you. Yeah, you did, yeah. You've got to keep cool in them situations. We've seen that you've learnt that you can keep cool, girl. We were winning 1-0. Duncan Ferguson scored a header. Yeah. We needed to win to get Champions League against Liverpool. Yeah. So it was a rocking Goodison night. Yeah, it was, yeah. So the emotions were up. It was 70 odd minutes. Wow, what a story. And then Scholzy got sent off after you. Oh, no, it's the worst feeling in the world.

4:54Gary Neville: You're sat in the dressing room at the end. You can hear cheers. You're sat in the dressing room. Your team are losing. You think you've cost them and everything like that. And then Scholzy walks in and I thought the game was over. But no one walks in with him. I went, what are you doing? He went, I've just been sent off. I don't know if I played that. I don't think you... 2005? No, I'll see you'd have been the third one walking in. No, was that gone by then? Was that gone by then? 2005? I don't know, Ro, when did you leave? It would have been about March, was it? Was it later in the season? No, it was 21 years ago this week.

5:26Gary Neville: So April this week. So, girl, you got sent off for booting it back into your room. So basically, the referee sent me off for booting the ball back into the crowd, but I didn't actually hit you with the ball, did I? I think I hit a kid that was sat next to him. Kid behind me. I missed the target right there. And he is the kid. Come in. He's got a broken nose. Yeah. But to be fair, it was like, I mean, at Goodison Park was like that. If the atmosphere was up there, it was up, wasn't it? And that night it was. And Duncan was like... Yeah. It's funny, because if I was watching that on the telly and watched him do it, I'd probably laugh.

6:00I'd like that. What, him throwing the ball at me? Yeah, I'd probably like that. But if I was playing in it... You'd have kicked it back, wouldn't you? I probably would have kicked it back. I'd like to think I'd have hit him, though. How do you feel? How do you feel when Scolzi walks in? Are you relieved that there's two of you and it's just you?

6:16Gary Neville: No, because I just knew the manager wouldn't have a go at Scolzi. Do you know what I mean? I think his was like two minutes to go, wasn't it? Like three minutes. He's really late on, so I thought the game had finished. Finished 1-0? Yeah, finished 1-0. I'm sure you played. Did you qualify for the Champions League? Yeah, we did, but it was above Liverpool. Even better. But then they got in, didn't they, because they won it. Yeah. That's not when Everton got Villarreal in the qualifying game. They were a pretty decent one. They were. And Kalina refereed it badly. That was actually, to be fair, that summer was the summer that Phil went to Everton.

6:51Gary Neville: Because Phil's first game was the Villarreal game, I think. And you gave him a hard time in that first season, the Everton fans, didn't they? And then they came round a little bit after that. It was that Ronaldo tackle, wasn't it? At Jemba. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What a servant he was then. Yeah. So what, he smashed into Ronaldo and they loved him? No, the first year Phil went to Everton, the fans gave him a really hard time, this manking Liverpool-type thing. And then obviously the year after, they sort of started to warm to him a little bit. He started making a few tackles, a bit more coming out of his shell.

7:19Gary Neville: I think he played right back a bit first season and he moved him into midfield, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, a long time ago, that. What a story. Yeah, so I booted the ball back at you. It was you. Nice one. Good to meet you. Nice to meet you. You were all right. Were you at the game on Sunday? Yeah. That was difficult, eh? Have you recovered? Yeah. That was tough, eh? Tough one to take. Well done, Kieran. Kieran, good find, Kieran. Kieran's amazing, finding that. Yeah, Kieran, keep bringing Scouss in that hate me. Well done, mate. Keep going. They don't have any Scousers now. Do you see that? Yeah.

7:57Gary Neville: Was that before the concert? I was going to say, Gow. I went to watch James with Roy. I did get invited as well, but didn't ever like him. They never turned up. Did you not turn up? How was it? A charity event? It was a brilliant concert. So I walked to the concert and then the guy just starts going. With the missus as well? You're standing there with them. That's the bit for me, I think, that's wrong. I think, to be fair, it's the first time it's happened like that. But when you're with your wife, you think... Because, Gal, you stayed quiet on that one. Did that bother you for the... Because we was talking, wasn't we, Jill?

8:25Did that bother you for the rest of the evening? Was you like, should I sit? That's what I'm saying, you were fine, obviously, at the concert. Oh, no, straight at the concert. I forget about stuff like that. I feel like it would annoy me for the rest of the night. That was a mean one. Me and Nance watched it and we were just like, that's just horrible. I don't know how I'd react to that. Do you know what I should have done?

8:42Gary Neville: The mistake I made, I should have filmed him. Yeah, you should have. Because no one can see who he is. Yeah. And I think if I'd have filmed him, he might not have put it out. I don't know. But he had quite a... I'm not going to say this, I'm presuming... I had a really aggressive dog with him on the lead. And I thought he was going to let the dog go. Do you know what I mean? I thought it was one of them where he's going to go like that. You know what I mean? Because I thought, yeah. But to approach him in the street and start swearing, I just think like, like people can have difference of opinions or whatever, but I just think like, it was so out of order if I'd been there, I would have hit him.

9:16No, that's a good one, Gareth. I'll leave and do it. Let him go back to his skip and have a good night's sleep. Keep that in. You were telling us, when you chased them kids at Wembley were saying... Yeah, no, because I was saying that when Man United had played Newcastle League Cup final. So we just played at Wembley, like for the Euros final. And I think that was the last time I'd been at Wembley and I was walking and obviously my brother's a Newcastle fan. And these two lads just come up, he had a scarf on, went to punch him. And I'd just seen red and I'm running, chasing these two lads, like past Wembley.

9:51And people are like looking at us and I'm thinking, if I get there, I think I would have just hit them. And anyway, the police like intervened and they missed the game and everything. But it ruined the whole game for us, that whole final. It just ruined it. Because you know when you've got that nervous energy. So that's why I was asking if it... But you're obviously better at controlling your emotions. Yeah, you didn't react like you did with our man who kicked the ball at the kid. No, I've calmed down in the last 21 years. You've learnt, girl. You learnt from the mistake. It's good. But James was good, wasn't it?

10:18Very good. The concert was brilliant. The concert was brilliant. I'm good, I missed it. It was brilliant. That's the thing, with Roy, you can't have anything else on it. If he invites you to something... Yeah. You know, if you say, because my instant reaction was, ah, brilliant, because my miss loves live gigs. And then when something comes up, then he never forgives you. It's just like, I'm not even saying anything. It's just like, I'm tired of it. You two are very similar like that, because sometimes I'll go to you, or come on meeting you, like, Friday, 10 o 'clock here. And I'm like, oh, I need to check what I'm doing.

10:48Like, it's just, if they say they're doing something, you've got to be there. No, I'd come in there right there. I don't want no arguments today. I'm not in the mood. But you know when you invite somebody somewhere and they say yes and then a week or two later something else comes up and they go, oh I can't come because I... You said yes. He said yes. I wouldn't mind if he said I couldn't go but he... So then he changed plans because... At the time I didn't know I couldn't go. He was probably an earner, you know what I mean? Someone off the dollar. Nothing's been an earner. And I can't go to that.

11:12So that was it. It's just that something came along that wasn't leisure. It was something that was busy. You got a movie plans though, Ian. Huh? He agreed to go. You got a movie plans. And you've had a good night. I do what I want. I do what I want. I do whatever. Exactly, that's my whole point. You do what you want. You're a striker, you're selfish. Thank you. I'm a midfielder. I'm a team player. Yeah, but you did have a busy week because you were at Liverpool on the Monday, so you would have had to come up like two days earlier. Honestly, there's a couple of things I had thanks to you. Yeah.

11:40He's a busy man.

11:41Gary Neville: You look good in a T-shirt, right? It's the first time I've ever seen you in a T-shirt on this show, it feels like. You know, yeah, I just... The jacket I was wearing, I didn't want to wear it, so I just thought I'd wear a T-shirt. And Roy. He's got been ripped, isn't he? I'm loving it. Cheers, that's his little gift. This one, I remember this one. I used to love these old training tops, remember? Got Roy a little gift this morning. Yeah, that is nice. He's got 92 on it as well, girl. His age. The gorgeous. I'm going to get one, I'm going to have one, girl, because I quite like this one. You know who I remember?

12:07Lee Sharp would have been wearing this and Brian McClare. Yeah.

12:11Gary Neville: I remember Brian McClare. The year we joined, that was our training tops type stuff. That's really nice. I'll tell you what, you know, Sharp must be happy. they're not even sponsoring United and everyone still thinks of Sharp as being the United sponsor because Adidas have brought them back Adidas breathe life back into Sharp whatever they're doing now are they even still about? we used to get them little camcorders, remember the Sharp ones it's that arse with the JVC we used to get the JVC Stick to Football is brought to you by Arn Clothing 100 % just stand up how much money have you got just put on sports stand up guaranteed Those are the margins that we're getting to now Where you think, well, yeah, that can cost you Other teams think, oh, we need them to have a little bit of an off day I think they think, Arsenal, bring your best game But if we're on it, we'll still beat you He needs the players more than they need him He'd be eaten alive there, he's a dead man more You know something, the way they look at him You know, they're side-eyeing him And you just feel like it's just gone there Well, he went to press, obviously, onto a defender And did he have the ball?

13:12No Exactly

13:13Gary Neville: He's not pressing anything What's he pressing? He's gone like this If you're doing a coaching session, where are you going? If I was watching Declan Rice nearly in tears saying it's not done, I'd be thinking you're done, mate.

13:28Gary Neville: Right, Chelsea. We're going to start on Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea. That was poor watching them last night, wasn't it? They were so bad, so disorganised. It's fallen apart, hasn't it? Mm-hm. Them owners, gal, and what the owners have done to that club since they've been in there. You know, this is what the Chelsea fans... That's what Chelsea fans are protesting. These owners, you know, bought the club in debt, bought the club and used debt to buy the club. No, right, if you're losing matches. The problem for the manager there now, Judge, he needs the players more than they need him. So he's... He'd be eaten alive there, he's a dead man.

14:03You know something, it was a strange appointment. The game's about surviving, if you keep losing games, you're gone. The great managers over the last few years, you have to survive in this game, and if you keep losing, how many losses is that now? Well, five on the bounce is a big problem. But the players have to look at themselves, because isn't it five games where they haven't scored in five games? Surely the front players have got to be like, come on, they've got to take responsibility to not score in five games. To be fair, look, I think I said at the time,

14:33Gary Neville: you've got an inexperienced ownership, you've got an inexperienced sporting department, you've got an inexperienced manager, and you've got the youngest team in the league. With inexperienced players. With inexperienced players. And they've signed these young players, to be fair, and giving them no experience around them at all. There's no leadership at all in terms of on the pitch. And then obviously bringing a young manager in a difficult situation. That ownership, you have to take a good look at that ownership, what they've done, like I say, the losses. Yeah, but that's not going to change, right?

14:59Yeah, but it has to change. But not over the next few months. It's not when the manager's going to film. I'm not sure how that's going to change in the way it's going now and the amount of monies they're losing year on year at the moment.

15:08Gary Neville: They've lost£689 million in three years. Three years, yeah. They lose£630 ,000 a day. They spent£2.25 billion on the club buying it, but they spent£1.86 billion on players in three years. More than£1 billion on players under 24. Wow. You know what they're talking about? They've taken on£1.4 million of debt. On top of that, they've got a£500 million loan, which is running at a massive interest rate. Interest rate, yeah. All these things have happened in three years. What do these numbers mean? You know, you're just trying to figure out hundreds of millions. it's like monopoly money isn't it it's like not real stuff is this yeah but it is real it will be real for the club obviously I know it is of course they'll say I'm sitting up with these figures what yeah I tell you I won't think I don't think it'll be helping it won't be helping other clubs in the Premier League that are looking like if you're Tottenham which you think well we believe has maybe been on the market now for 12 months 18 months like sort of off the record it's not going to be helping seeing how much money these guys have lost on this club and the debt that they've had to put on it are they back they must be 4 billion quid in They must be£4 billion in.

16:14Gary Neville: They must be now with all the money that they've spent. Gary, are they just out of their depth in their league in respects of running a Premier League football club? So when you're looking at what they're doing now, Gael, how do they get out of this? What's their business plan? Yeah. What is it? What's their model? Well, obviously, if they don't get in the Champions League, it has to set back, isn't it? They won't get in the Champions League. They will not get in the Champions League. Are you allowed... We said that a few months ago, who do we say would make it? I'd said... I'd said Chelsea. I thought Chelsea would.

16:40Did you say Chelsea?

16:41Gary Neville: I think I said Villa wouldn't make it a couple of months or so ago. I thought Villa were in free fall, if you remember, at the time. But I think just, well, Villa have picked up a little bit, but Chelsea have obviously... You said their policy would actually give up players a seven, eight-year deal, aren't they? Again. You know when you're saying they've got all this debt, is there a rule or can you just keep going? The debt, if it's being put on things like stadium or infrastructure, I think is fine, if it's funding stuff like that. I think the losses, to be honest with you, I don't know how they're...

17:08630 ,000.

17:08Gary Neville: I don't know how they're compliant with the three-year operating loss. Didn't they buy the women's team? That's what I'm saying. They've sold the women's side of it as well. That's got to be something to do with the men's as well, the infrastructure of the men's trying to help them with whatever's going on with the men's. They've actually sold the women's side. I want to take Liam out of it a little bit because I genuinely don't believe an inexperienced manager should have been put in that role. One thing I said at the time, If young players don't need young players alongside them, they need experienced players.

17:41Gary Neville: Young players definitely don't need a young manager. I thought Kukurea and Fernandes, I thought they were out of order. I thought they were out of order, to be fair, coming out and speaking out against the manager and talking about Enzo Maresca, the way in which they did after he left. I thought they were out of order. Yeah, it was massively disrespectful. They're two players that have got a little bit of experience about them. They won World Cup, one of them's won the Euros. Probably the most experienced players. I'm most influenced. You can imagine the influence those two have in that dressing room.

18:07Yeah.

18:08Gary Neville: Kukareya and Fernandes. Yeah. That says a lot. And once they turn on Liam by mentioning Maresca. That says a lot about them, then. What kind of dressing room you're dealing with. Yeah. So this is why when you're talking about the players, Jill, and the players got to give more, when you've got players of that stature in the team who think like that, Yeah. Everybody else is going to be like that. I never get, though, how you come out and speak. Like, you might get a manager that you don't get on with, but you wouldn't go out to the press and speak about it. They do it when they go away with international duty.

18:35Exactly. He was away with international duty, but you've got to keep what happens in the dressing room in there, don't you? The players will see the manager situation, they've seen the previous managers and the way Chelsea works, and they'll know that the senior has got no power whatsoever. So they'll just take advantage of that. It's not like a manager could come in there and fix what's going on with Chelsea in a minute. It's a much bigger problem. Massive problem. They've signed all these players.

19:04Gary Neville: I mean, let me count them first. Have you got the contract lengths as well? I haven't got the contract lengths, but we can get them whilst we go through it. It's all like seven, eight-year-old deals they're getting, isn't it? OK, so let's go through these players. Now, many of them, I mean, they spent 1.86 billion on these players. I mean, I'm looking at them here, to be fair. It's just round it up, 1.9 billion. OK, how many of these have been a hit? Chukwamaka. I don't think he's finished 90 minutes. No. In his career. Kukureya. Yeah. 60 million, yes. I think he's... I don't like the price, but...

19:41He's younger than you think, isn't he? Is he like 27?

19:44Gary Neville: Yeah, but I think to be fair to him, he's... He's a good player. I like him. But if they're shorting tomorrow, would they get that back? I don't think they would. No, they wouldn't. Absolutely not. No. What, the one point you'd do? Cesare Cassidy. Yeah, I have to. Who's that? I don't know. I mean third name on the list there. Cesari. Cesari, yeah, sorry, speak Italian. I don't know, I don't know. He was 17 million. Wow. He's 19, so he's... We needed to know, you should have games played, how much he cost, that's what we needed. 17 million. Wesley Fafana? No, injured. Injured all the time. Aubameyang?

20:20Gary Neville: Aubameyang was... Badir Sheel? No, it's not happened for him, neither. Andre Santos? I quite like him. I quite like him. In midfield, yeah. Yeah, I think he's all right. But sorry, but is that the way they're working? Or they're bringing the odds of young players in and knowing that they're not all going to work out? That's their transfer policy, isn't it? Scattergun. They're young players. They hope if you work out and then there's a sell-on and the lads who don't work out, you still think they might get their money back. Mudrick? He just disappeared. Well, he had a problem with... Oh, well, he's got...

20:47He's banned at the moment.

20:49Gary Neville: He's banned, isn't he? That was 80 million, I think. Yeah. I do think he's a good player, but... He's not worth it. He looked like he was... Mad Wakey. He's a better player when he's banned, isn't he? No. Gusto, I think yes. I think he's better. He does OK. Gusto. Enzo Fernandez. 100 million. 105 million. He's a good player. Are we going to compare? This is a good example. Some of these are good players, but you need more than that. It's like... Would you want to be in the trenches with these lads? That's the bottom line. Would you want to be in the trenches with... Last night? Mm-hm. No. You want to roll your C's up and you're looking at lads next to you going, I'm glad you're next to me.

21:26Well, when you're looking at the price and then you compare it to someone like Declan Rice and what he's trying, he's nowhere near that. And he's a World Cup player.

21:33Gary Neville: I mean, to be honest with you, I'm just going to show them there because I can't bother reading them. There's that many. I mean, literally, that's just like a quarter. That's probably even a quarter. Yeah, but there's Palmers. They've got talented players like Palmers come in. Pedro Neto. But that, to be fair... Like, Palmers are a good example of what they paid for Palmers. They could double that. There'll be arguments to that. Yeah, they'll get money back for Palmers. But to be fair, though, If you look across the whole of that, £1.9 billion nearly, that is a mess. That is a mess, that. To get 11 players out of that, that's going to challenge.

22:06Gary Neville: Kasedo, obviously, over here. Kasedo, a top player or not? He's a good player. I think he's a good player. If you put him in a good team, I think he would really shine. What did they pay for him? £100 million. I know, but£100 million, you're saying he's a good player. You want a bit more than that, don't you? I know, but players are... You want a guy who's going to run the game. Every week he should be eight nines. When I heard Liam speak... De Lap, what did they pay for De Lap? That was cheap, I think. It was like a 20, 30 million quid buyout because United tried to get him. What's he done? I know, we say he's a young kid.

22:40He'll get a move in this summer. He'll be back tips, which is something. Cole Palmer said he's staying though, didn't he? He came up and didn't... Well, you wouldn't expect him to. He's not going to come out and say, I'm going to leave in 80 months' time. I'm just going to hang on for a bit. He's going to say that, Jill. I don't blame him.

22:53Gary Neville: I knew, when Liam, I heard Liam Rossini speak after the game last night, I knew where he was. Do you know when you try and be positive when you go in and do a job about the players? Of course. You try and maintain it for a long time, but eventually you have to turn around. There's a tip of point, Gary. Yeah. And do you know something, last night, I mean, I got there in Valencia, I think probably about three, four games before the end, where you think, I've lost my job. You know you've lost your job. And the players know it. And the players know it. It's a problem. So you think, do you know something, I've got to start punching back a little bit and protect myself and say that they're unacceptable and that they're not good.

23:22Gary Neville: Do you know what, you might as well lose. you might as well lose your job on your terms instead of pandering to all these lads that's what happened the penny drops to certain managers they go I've been protecting them I've been defending them then you go I'm going to lose my job anyway I might as well come out fighting and just have a little bit of a go because obviously people are looking at your fans and people like us are going what have you got as a manager because obviously he's got a a very good career ahead of him so if you're going to leave leave a market behind and go look but again the problem is he needs the players more than they need him don't bother about him I guarantee you that.

23:54Gary Neville: He's got a six-year contract. Do you definitely think he's gone now? Because I feel like you've all spoken, like 100 % he's gone. Another one, he's been given a long contract. Yeah, but even when I was watching it, you could see, like, you know, when he's standing up, and he's, you know, I don't know, I'll see things like this from the players on the bench, Troy. And the way they look at him, you know, they're side-eyeing him, and you know what I mean, and you see a couple of, you just feel like, it's just gone there. I mean, I hope Liam goes straight back into another job of some kind. He's a young manager, This is the part of his journey, isn't it?

24:22This is a massive jump. And he might look back in his 30 years. These are all experiences. As you know, football management, but good and bad experience. And you learn from the bad ones. And he was always up against it. Especially with that kind of profile at club. Their policy of bringing players in, bringing young players in. Did we really think it was going to end any differently? Well, we sort of looked at it. Even Frank Puff. Frank was there trying to help you. Frank was here and he was scratching his head with them. Exactly. I was having a look yesterday because I recognised someone who was like on the bench.

24:49And I looked and I was like, I'm sure I counted, because I was trying to find out his name, like 36 members of staff before getting to the squad players. I'm like, is that not like it was like performance analysis times three, there was video. And I think sometimes... What was this on, Jill? I just Googled it and basically just brought up Chelsea's staff. And I was like, is that how many people are actually having a say about a team nowadays? That'd be a lot of clubs. Yeah, no, I think it is. But say when you played, how many staff members was there? It wasn't a lot. I was just looking and I was like, wow, this is crazy.

25:27Gary Neville: When I left, we had four sports scientists when I left and three masseurs. Really? Yeah, but when I first got there, we had no sports scientists and one masseur, which was Jimmy Curran, who was a part-time physio masseur. When I started, the manager was the masseur. Maybe I should have complained, but I don't see anything. Doesn't sound right, that. Well, it's a lot of staff, isn't it? I just think if you've got that many people with an input, I'm like... They all have an opinion. I know everybody's got something to say. Some of them are hiding because they're not doing anything, so they're just hiding in the numbers.

25:56They don't want to be managers, they want to be best mates. Have a game of golf with them. Who's that? Massage. Don't do it with Massage with Roy. Yeah. No, of course you start that one. I do feel for him, but I hope it doesn't... They're great lads, they want to play golf, and they've got wife and children back home, they have no time for them, but they want to play golf with the players. do you know what I mean? Look after a family. I just hope that, for Liam's sake, because we're talking about Chelsea, it's not like it damages you if you manage Chelsea and they get rid of you. It's almost like, yeah, it's fine.

26:26True enough. Or he'll punch back. Hopefully he'll punch back. Fingers crossed for him. Chelsea fans keep battering the door down on them owners, man. They're letting you down. I don't know if Chelsea... How many years is it going to take Chelsea to get back from this? How many years? So, Chelsea fans, get ready, man. Buckle up. Buckle up.

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30:23Gary Neville: Right, righty. Yo. Arsenal. Yeah? We just softened up with the Chelsea's. You're aware of that aren't you? I mean, righty, we've not heard from you since Sunday. Where are you at with what happened on Sunday? Obviously, very emotional last time. You know, Ryan, maybe not. I was very emotional about it. But the fact is... I like that. Emotional guy, but you know what? Leading into that was obviously Southampton and Bournemouth, so I was reeling off of that. We're great against them, sportism, but I said in the show that I just want to see something from us in respect to show us that you can do something, you can give us something.

31:01Because if we'd won the games previously and done well, getting to Man City, it's never going to be the... It's deciding on the Man City game. You want to try and get that cushion, so when you play that game, whatever happens, you're OK, because you're going to beat the rest. So leading into that, obviously, and the way we played, you know what I mean? I was disappointed, but we played well enough to win the game. We should have at least got a draw out of that game because watching Eze, Havertz and Odegaard, we create the kind of chances that we should have taken. We should have taken them. And again, it shows that Man City, people say, I think City will lose again this season.

31:35And I'm saying, well, really? But then you watch it and you think they do give chances up. And if you're going to be rude to take them, Arsenal probably could win that game. They could have won the game. You know, Harlan had one chance, bam, took it. You know, so I was a lot, I'm a lot better now. Because now what they've got to do, Ryan, you guys will know, you've done it so many times. They've just got to say, right, we've got to go and really get ruthless with everything. Because if City beat Burnley, was it tonight or tomorrow? Tonight. Tonight. If they beat them tonight, then it's in City's hands.

32:02So now, maybe that might take a bit of pressure. Then they can just go for it. You know? And so now, I'm back on the wagon of, let's go and get it. Yeah, yeah. Let's go and get it. But like last week, I was desperate. You know what? I don't like watching it with my youngest son. He's just too deep. He's too deep. He's just like, everything's, everything's, the manager, the players, we've got to get rid of him.

32:28Gary Neville: Where does he get that from? I don't know where he gets that from. I don't know where he gets that from because I sit there and I'm quiet. And then the day after, we have the texts and messages all day about, well, you shouldn't have said this. Yeah, but I said that because I meant that. and then we get back to the positive. But we're both very emotional, as you can imagine. But I felt a lot better after that game. You know, I watched the game, watched the guys. You should do, yeah. I felt a lot better after that game because I saw enough in that game for us to beat the teams that we should be beating afterwards and now it's up to them.

32:58Gary Neville: What did Havertz do, Roanwright, from a technical perspective when that ball comes in and he's obviously missing the header at the end? Well, the header's come from such a... There's nothing else he can be doing with that ball where he's got space to cross it. he can see Havers he's in between the defenders now all Havers has to do is make sure that he just gets the flight of that because it's coming at a perfect height and the way he headed it for him to still head it you've got to come in so when it's coming in you make sure you get yourself in a position where you're not right I go now and then bam over there what he done was he came in and he went bam he didn't get enough on it where he's watching it watching it you watch the top one I mentioned Shira Teddy's sharing and Shira that is a goal Harry Kane that is a goal because they're getting their bodies into a position where when they attack that there's no way you're going to save because the pace on it and the header you're going to put on it so I don't think that he got himself in a position where he can come and attack it he just went like that you know yeah and why is that because he's not a natural finisher he's not like a big powerful yeah because like that's the kind of chance but what a chance it was it was a fantastic chance to the point where it come over I'm thinking there's only one outcome and so when he missed it you think well that's again again we have to look at the fact that you know a striker what we've bought to try and take those chances is not even on the pitch right so that says enough about that because maybe if he was on the pitch as a natural striker he would realize well I've got to make sure this ball's coming here he might have done it but Kai you know just coming back in you know I mean we know he's not an out and out striker and then now you can look at it and you look at and then you start analyzing it like that because if that was an out and out I think he scores that.

34:37And I think he scores the one where he goes through and the goalie saves it. Because again, he's coming in from on that left side on his strong foot. You cannot hit the goalie. You have to be aiming there. You have to be lifting it in that place because remember, the legs are low. So you're going to have to go over those. So if you're going high and you're close to him, it's going to hit him in here and he's massive. So you've got to know the goalkeeper coming up against. So you're coming in, it's got to go over there. I'd rather him miss. On the one where he goes through in the left. Yeah, but I'd rather him miss on the outside.

35:08Yeah, because the worst way is you're going to get it inside the post and go in. But don't hit the goalie here when there's all that. Those are the kind of chances, when you look back at it, those are the margins that we're getting to now. Where you think, well, yeah, that can cost you. Because like Harland, I think it was one chance he had, right? I know it was like he's battling for him and stuff. But like the way he took it, pulled him off and then calm. That's what you need in the situation.

35:33Gary Neville: Do you think, I felt Mikel Atat had a good game in terms of the decisions he made. Was there anything that you think he could have done differently? I don't think I would have taken Eze off. You saw Eze hit the post. And again, you know, whatever people say about, yeah, but moments play. The fact is, he plays in an area of the field where he can make those moments happen. Like that came literally out of the blue. Bam, hits the post with his left foot. I would have kept him on because he's got that in him. You know, to bring on Trossard, I'm not knocking him on it, but I think you take away something from the attack with Eze.

36:04I think starting Eze on the left with Havertz and Odegaard we created enough chances. That's the only thing. I probably wouldn't I probably wouldn't have taken him off because he's the one where you know you say I'm going to keep him I think he'll do something. Yeah, just needs a moment. I think it was a good weekend for the Premier League. I know we've been saying the quality this year but I thought this weekend like obviously the City-Arsenk game was excellent obviously Liverpool digging our result United winning Seven goals No we watched Villa Sunday It was brilliant Brilliant game Even Spurs Showing a bit of fight At last Brilliant It was like And obviously The quality of the City Arsenal game Was good I think it was a good Weekend I really enjoyed The weekend of football I thought Donnarumma As well after making That mistake I think he showed Why he's a top player To make that save And then obviously Set up the goal Really didn't he I think to have That mentality To come back That's a sign of a top Top player Jamie done some Brilliant analysis on that on Monday night I don't think so you don't think so I thought that was pretty good in the way we were too far up I would completely disagree with that what do you think about the winning goal yeah I couldn't agree more see he was he was defending Martinelli a little bit because he showed a clip of Martinelli winning on the halfway line you think you should have been deep you went on the halfway line when you've got numbers and you're more compact and that's on a halfway line the goalkeeper has for Man City Martinelli runs before he even throws it and as you know if you're gonna press you press in numbers yeah yeah he must look that there's nothing behind me and he runs before he throws the ball if he throws the ball he sprints and does something brilliant he ran was anticipating and he also must look on i'm gonna i'm gonna press somebody here they keep it's not left his arms yet and there's nobody behind me what you do is you know if you're gonna press you ever look around yeah there's people behind me but roy is there is

37:55Gary Neville: Is there a trigger that they do go and press that? That's what I'm thinking. He thinks that that guy should be coming in. That's what I'm thinking. It's almost like an automatic they go into, don't you know what I mean? I'm imagining that that must be like in the first half. What does that mean? I'm imagining. In the first half, if you remember, when Arsenal pushed in in the areas, the others followed in behind, even Gabriel. It's time to do it. But what you do is, if you won every time you press, it'd be fantastic. But you smell when you think it's a good time to press. It felt wrong. You don't press on your own against Man City.

38:21Man City, Borla. Man City want you to press with five or six. Do you think they're worried about one? It felt... And when Martinelli... And you might go, when Martinelli is enthusiasm, his energy, I hadn't left the goalkeeper's arms. No. But if he threw it wide and he went, I know my players, this guy's a bit nervous, I'll press him. Like Bournemouth done to Arsenal last week. And this is the full... He'd wanted it a few minutes earlier, where Jamie used an example. That was on the halfway line, where you're more compact, and there was three or four players in midfield. I think that comes down to...

38:46Martinelli's on his own. I think that comes down with the manager, what the manager wants. Oh... No, no, no, let me just say... It's only because, I think that, When you look at Mikel and what he's like on the line, he's managing every single second. So I think that, like you said there, Martinelli's probably gone on autopilot because that's what a match. But then when you watched it, there was such a massive space there. You don't press. You don't press. There's lots of space against Man City. It felt uncomfortable. Put it just like when a goalkeeper saw Martinelli making that run, he was like, oh, happy days.

39:14Yeah.

39:15Gary Neville: It was basic, wasn't it? You don't normally see a goalkeeper throwing it into that space and all of a sudden the whole game. If you watch Martinelli, Martinelli forced him to do it. Martinelli didn't go, you know, I'm going to go half and half. He made his mind up. Oh, nice one. What Martinelli has to do, you're on about a manager. What defines a good player and a bad player is your decision-making on the pitch. Not the fucking manager's saying. So when he sees that, Martinelli must have a little quick over his shoulders. We're talking about players. He must go, you know what, there's nothing behind me.

39:43If I press against Man City, who want me to press, they're actually going to run 60, 70 a year. Just go, I bide me time. That makes you think Even more how afraid he must be of the manager to not do what he's done, because he's done it on autopilot. Of course he's got to react like you're saying. Someone almost has to release you, and sometimes even if you're pressing and it's literal, you're the only one that can read the game in that moment. It's not like, right, we're all just pressing. Who praises a player for pressing somebody? When Man City go, he didn't... But Roy... Can I ask you something, Matt?

40:10What did he press? No, no, listen, I'll ask you a question.

40:14Gary Neville: What did he press? So, basically... What did he press, Nev? Well, he went to press, obviously, onto a defender. And did he have the ball? No. No. Exactly. He's not pressing anything. Who's he pressing? I think, honestly, if I'm a right back there, I'm imagining that, and I'm being nice to wingers here, but I'm imagining that my wingers are a little bit unintelligent about things. They tend to be off the cuff, erratic, they tend to do what they want. That's a winger. That's what he done. That's what happened there. I agree with you. If I'm seeing that, if I'm a right back, right, and I'm a midfield player like Declan Rice or Zubamendi who are really experienced, and I'm a right back and I'm a centre-half like Gabriel or whoever it might be, you should be screaming at him don't go don't go yeah you've got to imagine that he's going to be a little bit of an idiot and go and try and do something stupid and go and sort of press on so I agree with you in some ways but for me he's probably been told when the keeper has it you make sure you press on that's the only way he could be doing that he took it literally and I think to actually so that means he was wrong yeah but to change that Declan Rice or Zubamendi or Gabriel or Saliba or Mosca they have to shout him hold states Yeah, but there's times where they mightn't do that.

41:19That's where you... This is big boy stuff. It's not under 15 football. So if you're a Martinelli, when you're talking about wingers, what do you do? You go half and half. And if it does go to him, then I go. But he's gone. He's gone like this. If you're doing a coaching session, you go, where are you going? Has he got the ball?

41:33Gary Neville: No, he hasn't got it. Right, I guarantee you there, if that was Bex in front of me, I'd be screaming at him, stay or go. Stay or go. I wouldn't definitely be giving him information. No, but what Martinelli should then, again, he's an international footballer. So if he's thinking, I'm going to go, but you have a little glance going, do you know what, there's not much behind me, do you know, just back in here. Because we're a team, a draw does us. I wouldn't mind if they had to go and chase the game. We go, do you know what, lads, all better off. No, you're right, you're right. Headless chicken stuff, I get that.

41:56If he drops in there as well. We should be with that as five or ten minutes at United, we'd have six strikers, I get that. But they didn't have to force it. A draw would have done Arsenal. Because if he just drops off here, gal, and throws it there, he's in front. Do you know what, this is not even at the base. Well then what happens after that, though? It's crazy. You know when you're playing, maybe a winger does go or the striker goes and you think behind, right, we've just got to hold because else it can have a knock on effect. They go, you go. Like, what happens after that? But if he'd thrown the ball, he hadn't thrown the ball yet.

42:22I wouldn't mind if he'd thrown the ball. He'd go, you know what, I think he could take a bad touch or it's just behind him. You smell something. But to score a goal, they still have to have another three actions, don't they? What's everybody else doing? It compounds it, I guess. But don't make it easy for Man City and don't let a talented left-back run 60, 70 yards who's comfortable going forward and he ends up putting the ball in anyway. I think when you see a goal to win a game of that importance for us, especially when you need to get something out of it, when you see it come in that manner...

42:48It wasn't good. It was disappointing. Yeah, something's gone wrong.

42:51Gary Neville: I mean, I would probably lay the blame more with the players behind Martelly not getting a grip of it than naturally the young... Young, he's not young. I just think wingers, you can't trust wingers to make a good decision. You just can't, Roy. Yeah, but Roy, I know what you're thinking. It's not always about making a good decision. Whatever you're thinking. Some players, you know you have to constantly be on them. Well, don't make a bad one. Honestly, if you'd stopped, you'd go, where are you going, Martin? Where are you going? I'll repeat myself. Jamie's stuff. Sometimes you have to go, we've analysed the game, we've done it live, and sometimes afterwards you go, do you know what, maybe I was rehearsing somebody, and I'm including all of us, but Martin, he doesn't have to go there.

43:27He doesn't have to go. If he stands still, and then he goes, I'm still in position. And while all these split-second situations happen, the lads are getting across. These are split-second decisions. He's ran City. Against that team. It did City. Is it a bit of desperation? But he doesn't have to be desperate. It's one one. No, I know, but I mean, like, did the one... I know, obviously, it's wrong, but would the... I said before the game, this is called game management. Game management. Understand what's going on at that certain time in the game. Football's full of mistakes. And Martinelli, you hope when he makes mistakes, the lads can dig him out.

43:58City goalkeeper made him big mistakes. Gehi, when he loses it, where Havre should score. Football's full of mistakes. Of course it is. We get that. But when you make something like that, and the goal comes from you go, we have to look at that, or else we'll never learn. So you're talking about Martellini going, well, wingers can be a bit, yeah, they can make daft decisions, but that was like, he didn't have to go there.

44:18Gary Neville: What was the benefit of going to a player who hasn't got the ball? Do you know what? One thing, I think if you're Mosquero, one thing there, if you're Mosquero, if he does go, you've got to come up. I think you have to sprint. Absolutely. And then they have to get across. That's what I mean about what you do after that. To me, when you make a mistake, the whole point, you're part of a team is, when you make a mistake, your teammates obviously help you out. That's what the game's about. And they didn't do enough after he made that. But this idea that his pressing was a good... No, no, that's bizarre.

44:46That wasn't... In that moment. No, I agree with you. In the time of the game. Because again, you smell moments. Yeah, you're right. We're under the cosh. I don't need to go running in there. Yeah, you're right. Wow. Game management, we said about the Bournemouth game. No one went to go at Lantz. Is it time to press? Of course. And it's time to go. Not now. The pressure's on City to score. Pep said before the game, we have to win the game. So the pressure was on City, not on Arsenal. It's 1-1, we'll try and pick you off, we still have quality. They draw with it on Arsenal. Do you think they felt that though in that moment?

45:14I think it was kind of like heart over head. They were just like playing to the occasion of the game and thought we're going to go and get a goal. Like nobody said, were Arsenal in that moment thinking we're alright for a draw, stay compact. Do you know what comes into this top level games honestly? Football intelligence. It comes into football intelligence. I love enthusiasm, I love people. You want your team to have energy, but at the right time. Yeah. I still think it comes down, Roy, to a player that's just like, like you're saying about the wingers and not thinking that. I just think it's a player that's just on all sorts.

45:45You've got to think in this game. And then we haven't reacted. We haven't come around. And so then, if anything, we don't, you don't want a space like that. You want to cover that space in worse ways. They'll have to do that. So then you can, they'll have to diagonal. You know what you don't do at this time? You don't run to somebody who hasn't got the ball. I'm just baffled. If a kid done that and he ran to somebody, you go, first thing you stop is, if you're doing a training session, you go, where are you going? I'm splitting up, why? Has he got the ball? No, he hasn't even got the ball. It was never even going towards him.

46:12It's bizarre. If you're doing any coaching session, you stop a player, you're not about to find a moment, you go, why are you going there? I know you want your mates to help you out, and Arsenal didn't quite do enough after that, but don't compound one mistake with some more ones.

46:27Gary Neville: Stick to Football is brought to you by Arm Clothing. You said you were quite positive before or after the game but who wins the league now? I'm going to go with that we're going to win the league. How are you going to win the league? How do you see it? How do you visualise it? Well, the chances we created against that City side I think we could do the same against the teams that's coming. Obviously we're going to have to be a lot more ruthless with taking the chances but before that, leading into that I didn't see us creating enough chances in the games leading into that in a time where the history of what we're doing in this stage of the season we've kind of faltered.

47:01I thought that in that Man City game, the big game, we created enough chances where if we do that against other teams and get ourselves back to that defensive solidity what we had before leading into this part of the season and finish this ruthlessly. Like when we started the season ruthlessly with people saying, it's Arsenal's. You know, everybody's saying, it's Arsenal's. It's Arsenal's to lose. You know what I mean? Everybody's saying, because we looked absolutely faultless the way we were. Everybody was, bam, it was fine. Now, everybody's faltering and this City game, I thought we'd done enough.

47:37If we can play like that, even if we're trying to creep over the line, we could probably do it. Do you reckon, for all that, we're talking about these mistakes in the game against City and the Pledsoe, but do you reckon Arsenal really deep down have that belief they can do it? I'm not sure. Maybe they have it. Maybe there's a bit of doubt. That's human nature. I think City do. I think City do.

47:53Gary Neville: Pep said he loved the Declan, Pep said yesterday in his press conference he loved the Declan Rice. It's not over. It's not done. It's not done. Do you think Declan was in control when he was saying that? I think it was just emotional. You know what it was? Whatever he was feeling at the time, whatever he was feeling at the time, if I'm the opposition, watching that, watching him say that, I'm thinking, so then they're thinking it's done. He's their main guy, one of the main guys. No, I wouldn't think that. No, no, no, no, no. Let me just make a point. If I was watching Declan Rice nearly in tears saying it's not done, and I'd be thinking, you're done.

48:30Do you think that's a pre... What did you say?

48:32Gary Neville: If I saw Declan Rice quite looking like, not in tears, but he looks like, you know, it's not done. It's not... It wasn't like, it's not done. And I'd look at him and think, he's done. I think I would... This is what I'm trying to just explain. If you're looking at... And I hope Arsenal win it, righty. Pep will be thinking that. If he shows them that, then the Man City players will be saying, we've got them. No, it's a good response, but I just didn't feel confident when he was... I didn't feel it was a... I'm a big fan of him, as you know. Last week we debated about whether I thought he would potentially grip that game and in the end it ended up being the other two midfield players.

49:10Gary Neville: No, I think Bernardo Silva and Rodri got a good match. Exactly. Do you think that's a three-fourth thought where he's gone... Like, the players have gone, if we don't win this, it's not done. Like, they've thought it before the game. I don't know if it's something like, even if we lose this, it's still... If I'm an opposing player, I'm thinking... And, you know, we can overanalyse everything, can't we? We do. Maybe that's a natural reaction. But the thing is, is that he wants to make them understand. We've got to find a fight. Who have we got in there? We've got Nkappi, who's won the Bundesliga.

49:42We've got Jesus and we've got Jürgen Timber, who's won in Holland. Three players who have seen it off. They need to step into that team and try to make them understand what it's going to take to finish this off. Because everybody in there will be having doubts.

49:55Gary Neville: There's nothing wrong with that. Is Arsenal's best chance? Rodri doesn't play tonight at Burnley and he obviously went off holding his groin. If that's two or three weeks, and it sounds crazy, I do think that is a big... It's a massive. I think that's massive for City going to Everton, for instance. If they went without Rodri to Everton or into some of the games, they've got... Boom, I feel like I've got Brempton. Yeah, I don't know how long he's out for and to be fair, I spoke to a City fan that works with us back there and he said he thinks it's going to be not that serious, seven to ten days, so he thinks he'll be back for maybe Everton, but if he did miss a couple of weeks, because Lucky pulled his groin, didn't it?

50:27The only thing I say about Burnley going there and everyone says, oh, it'll be tough. Burnley gave up four goals against Forrest in the second half. I don't think it'll be tough at Burnley, do you? I think it'll get up to you. I think it could be three, four. I know Rodri's a lot to Rodri for the other games, but for the Burnley game, if Burnley players are giving up four goals in one half against Forrest, now credit to Forrest, again, a big hand for them. If you're Scott Parker, you're looking at those players, you've got four goals against Forrest, you were like three or four positions above you.

50:54A good reason to wow. City looked very good, though. Like, how good is Doku? Like, when he's in them tight spaces. I thought the left-hand side. When he's now, his final ball is getting much better. And like, with his pace and his skill and then that final, he's dangerous. You can't stop that. We can be critical of Arsenal, the second goal they give up, but the first goal, from a defensive point of view, I know, brilliant attacking player. But if you're again looking at the defenders going, wow. Roy, do you have something? No, no, no, can I just say? No, no, no, Roy, I can't believe you. When you look at what Shirky done in that tight area...

51:26It was fantastic. It was fantastic. And when you looked at it in slow motion, it was fractions in respect to nearly touching it. So it was so... No, that's how I'm looking at it, girl. From an attacking point of view, he never was a defender. Because it was just... It was so close. But like you're saying...

51:40Gary Neville: Gabriel did it twice, right? He literally stepped... Not stepped back, but he waited more in that situation. He had to go out quickly outside the box. He had to go and confront him and do that challenge that he did outside the box. he couldn't do it in his own box because he can't commit if you're outside the box if you commit and you bring him down it's a free kick but I don't think you can go back he did it twice I've been disappointed but we still have to with that defender okay maybe I had to come out whatever gal but I still think it was fractions but we can't be talking about this as the defender his ability and the way he moved that brilliant and then the there was little touches weren't there already that's what I'm saying the little touches because when you look how close the boot was he'd done this on purpose whether Gabriel's come out or not this guy's skilled to move to manipulate to the right to the left and then to finish that's what you got to be talking about I'm not worried about the defending it was close the defending was so close yeah see they've got to a point now where Semenyo can have one of his most difficult or bad games but they've got Shirky and Doki tonight Doki could have a really bad game and Semenyo they've got that point now where they've got three one of them's gonna rock up and that's a problem but it's Bernardo Silva it's Just the end, he's just driving everything.

52:53You know what, Pep makes a great point, and I know we're aware of it, because when you look at him, he's pretty small, isn't he? He doesn't look physically strong. He doesn't look like he can run. I think if he walked in there, I know we'd be thinking, who's this guy here? Scrawny. But he's a snap. He's a snap. Just knowing where the ball's going to go. You see him at the back there, I think.

53:10Gary Neville: And then running. Yeah, 1v1 running back, yeah. Running back? He does have a 1v1 running back. He does Jokeres on a header. He's then pressing high up the pitch forward. forward, the last 10 minutes of that game was a... He steps up football and I like what he says after games. Even last year when City were going through a difficult stage, he fronts up media-wise as well and he's honest. He's not throwing anybody on the bus but he's saying we need to do better. What a smart cookie. You know what as well, he's leaving right at the end of the season so again they've got something that they want to do for him and when you look how he's playing, the example he's setting in the way he's playing, you can see where City have got the drive to try I'm finished this off.

53:49Obviously, if Rodri's not playing, that's brilliant for Arsenal. But we talk, Rodri, do you know what you're talking about? You know, it's really important, sport and football. We're talking about the hunger of Arsenal. But you know, when you've won stuff, I think there's more hunger for like, this seems to be more hunger. Yeah, yeah.

54:00Gary Neville: Because you're used to it. You want more of it. You love it. It was Arsenal. They lost it. They can't lose two. They would lose it two years on the bounce. Pep's never done it. I know that. Do you know what, though? I think Man City's mindset is so different than any other team. I feel like they go into any game in the Premier League

54:18I think they think if they bring their level, they can beat anyone. Whereas I think other teams think, we need them to have a little bit of an off day. I think they think, Arsenal, bring your best game, but if we're on it, we'll still beat you. Pep, if you listen to Pep's build-up before the game, amazing. You talk about pressure and the City, this idea they have to win. Pep kept saying, yeah, we have to win. He didn't play it down, he wasn't going. Well, you know, as long as we go, it might be a draw. He said, we have to win. If we don't win this game, the league's over. Imagine the City players.

54:45He's probably saying that all week. Because we're saying to Pep, we're talking about Arteta, has he maybe took the pressure off the Arsenal lads last week, training maybe a bit lighter, mixed things up, whatever he might be doing to mix things up. Whereas Pep's gone, even before the game, just before he's gone, yeah, we have to win this game. That's trusting his players, the players are going, yeah. Yeah, players know as well, because they've been through it. But not all of them though, righty. Still a lot of new lads to the City Group, getting used to Pep's mentality going, I expect you to win, lads.

55:11It must be exciting getting into that as well. Something like Semenya and Gaye going into that dressing. It must have been amazing. And them two signings, if City go on and win it, Gahey at the back. I know he made a mistake there where he was caught by Martinelli, but he's been... He's just a leader, though, as well, isn't he? You can see that.

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57:46Gary Neville: Let's get it in Ben Oh we'd You had a bad time Is this because I wasn't here? Come on you just can admit it I had 2-1 Spurs What happened to you today? Spurs 2-1 against Jill should I keep you around? Jill You should be over there Kieran Come with me You're on Oh no I was going to say You can't leave your team I was honestly I'm not going to leave Tottenham would not We're going to want an injury time We had 2-1 I'm so unlucky. With who? With Tottenham. I said Tottenham. I said they're not doing it. Come on, Kieran. Have you got a mic for Kieran? I'm on. I would have gone a City win as well. He's always mic'd up, isn't he?

58:23Gary Neville: He's mic'd up even when he's at home, isn't he? Yeah, he's ready to go whenever. Right. So, by the way, Kieran is, on Friday... Go on, Kieran. 50. I knew you were... I'm going to take paper rounds, bro. 30 years of age on Friday. 30? Have we got a cake? We're going to get one. Are you going anywhere? What are you doing? Have a bottle of Hull. Watching the football on Saturday as well. It's a cake replacement. I'm going to Salford tomorrow night. Salford tomorrow night. Salford tonight. You must have enjoyed that Liverpool result. It's great, aren't you? Wow. Are you going to Salford tomorrow night, Roy?

59:00I'm in Ireland. I'll have a charity gig tomorrow night. Charity gig? He's been working so much. He's been doing so much charity. He's picking up these Q and Ears, these balls. What have we got, Vin?

59:11Gary Neville: The Roy Key Massage Association. Last week scores, Gary and Jamie, 12. Oh, yes. I can't remember what we said last week. That's big. That's big. What did you get right? We got a lot right. Yeah, Roy and Ian, you got four. Oh, no, it's so bad. But the Spurs would have been five points. I wasn't here. Yeah. You always win. You have 2-1 for Spurs. Yes. 2-1, yeah. What did we have for Spurs? You had... Oh, you had 2-1. See? Tottenham Brighton, you got five points. That's the turnaround. That's unbelievable, isn't it? That is unbelievable. Well done. Spurs. Spurs. Yeah. Wow. That was just before I went out to the concert.

59:53It's Spurs' me night. Look at Spurs! Spurs! Just walking out the door and Spurs can see.

59:59Gary Neville: Let's talk about Spurs now, during Super 6. Let's do it. But Justin, they'll stay up. How do you think they'll stay up right now? Should we do it when we get to the Spurs? Yeah, let's do that. Right, Liverpool Crystal Palace, 3pm. On Saturday? Yeah. Palace have the Conference League that week, don't they? You just... Sorry, Liverpool. I trust you on Liverpool. We have four tough games. 1-0. I trust you on this one. Go on, go there. I'll go... 2-0. 2-0. 2-0. Palace will get a goal. I always think... We've got 2-1? Yeah, 2-1. Back to 2-1. Yeah. 2-2. Oh, shit. Oh, no! That was in my head. Come on, Ben.

1:00:39Do you think 2-2? No. Tottenham Wolves. These will win, Tottenham. Right, let's talk about Spurs. I thought the crowd... 3-1. 3-1, 2. Spurs. The crowd really got behind them. I thought the players well. Spurs fanning news coming out every week. No, no, no. Do you know, it's about time. They showed a bit of fight, a bit of energy. A couple of lads coming back. Even Madison on the bench. Yeah. You'd get a free kick in the next few weeks. Spurs would be fine. You think so?

1:01:05Gary Neville: Who's going down there now, Roy? Because I don't think Forrest. You said Forrest last week. I don't think Forrest are... It's Forrest, and them couple of Europeans. I know that was a huge win for them. A great response to go after being 1-0 down. But I'm just worried about whenever they've got them games against Villa. I think they'll prioritise the league. I don't think you can. No, you can't. You're not at that stage in Europe. Yeah, but we're talking about their owner and Premier League. Last time of Spurs are staying up. I'm going to... I don't know. I think Spurs will still go. I actually think Wolves will get something.

1:01:36It's a cup final for Wolves that though, isn't it? Even though they're down. It's a cup final for them. They still all want to win it. And it's not a cup final for Spurs. It's not, but...

1:01:46Gary Neville: Everyone, not everyone, but a lot of people want Spurs to go down. You've got no prediction. I don't think Wolves are going to win. I don't think Wolves will win. I don't think Wolves will win. I said Wolves will get something. If Wolves get something, you lot... Kieran, Tottenham 2-1. Do you think the Wolves get something? I don't think it's going to be comfortable for Spurs. Right, I think Tottenham are going to score a late winner. They have to. 2-1. They have to win this game. They have to win this game. That 3-1's not right. They have to win this game. You don't like 3-1? No, I just don't think they'll give it.

1:02:14Gary Neville: Too comfortable. I don't see Spurs... This game is 3pm. West Ham Everton. What time is that at? 3pm. Oh, that's a big game, West Ham Everton. And Everton are good away from home. Yeah, and David Moyes back to his... Yeah, he was a point to... Don't say anything. But West Ham will be... How bad was that game in West Ham Palace? Wow. You know what? Those are the games when you watch it. That's what makes you... West Ham needed a point there. West Ham needed something. What do you think, Kieran? 1-1 or 2-1? I think 2-2. 2-2? I just think Everton a good way from home. 2-2. I think Everton... It's magnificent to watch.

1:02:54I think Everton will win. Ronnie O'Sullivan? Oh, he is good. Oh, God. Go on, Gillian, what you got? Everton 1-0.

1:03:02Gary Neville: Everton 1-0. That would be a big result. Going for it. Go on, Gillian, well done, girl. Because they're going for you, Robb, aren't they? It'd be a big result, though. I can't get involved in the next one. City 7-0. I can't get involved in that. This family stuff is... Are you going right? Everton... No. Go forward. She's going to win the bottom for tickets. No chance. No, but you're being titled. Saturday, I'm doing some charity stuff on Saturday. I think we need to check in, Roy, if you've got a tax bill coming up. Do you want to speak about it? Are you in a little bit, like, this morning, because you've got a busy week, is that why you've got two things on your island?

1:03:39Gary Neville: Yeah. That's why I'm what? Not going. I'm not having an argument. I'm not in the mood. I want a calm day, but then when everyone's praising Martinelli for... I'm not praising him. Wow. I say Jamie done a decent bit. Jamie had too long to analyse it. Jamie had too much time. City Southampton, 5.15. I think righty should call this one, because I don't want to go against. City Southampton. No, City are beating Southampton. Go on, righty, you see it. What's this? They're fake-up, isn't it? They will beat them. I was thinking, Southampton's getting in the league. Come on, righty. No, no, no, I think City are beating them.

1:04:11Yeah, but it won't be... 3-0. 3-1, 3-1. 3-1. Yeah. I'll go 2-0 City. Yeah. Because... He was well confused then. I was confused. Southampton being promoted!

1:04:22Gary Neville: OK, let's go. Arsenal, Newcastle 5-3. Is that us first? I think it's us. I'm curious. Arsenal win? I think they need to. 1-1 written all over. Do you reckon? What do you do your own thing? Arsenal will win. Newcastle all over the place. They'll win, they'll be driven by defeat. We're winning this game. Arsenal. 2-1 Arsenal. Newcastle have been that bad. No, no, no. We're either 2-0 or 3 now. I'm going to go. I don't think you've got that in you, right? I think we have. 3-0. We need that kind of result. Chelsea-Leeds FA Cup. It's 3pm. I think Leeds will beat Chelsea. So is this who goes through or is it the 90-minute result?

1:05:02Gary Neville: 90-minute. Truly. What is this? 90-minute result. What is this? No, what I'm saying to you is it... 90 minutes. It's a 90-minute result. I think Leeds will win. Not a draw. Go on, 90 minutes. We're 1-1. 1-1. 1-1? They've gone 1-1. We're going to go Leeds. 2-1 Leeds. I think they'll just take the fans. That was one of my first FA Cup finals I ever watched. Super six. Thank you. Kieran. Jill, come on back round there now. Right. That was quite... That was shocking. I think sometimes it's too quick.

1:05:42Gary Neville: Jamie Carragher said the England under-21 team that he played with would beat the England team that had the likes of Rooney Kane and Sterling in. Do you agree? What was his team? So he's saying that in 2015, the team was Nathaniel Cline, Gary Cale, Phil Jones, Joe Hart, Leighton Baines, Danny Welbeck, Fabian Delph, Raheem Sterling, Wayne Rooney, Michael Carrick, Kane came on as a sub. His under-21 team was Richard Wright, Kieran Dyer, Seth Johnson, Jamie Carragher, Rio Ferdinand, Gareth Barry, Frank Lampard, Stephen Gerrard, Emil Heskey, Lee Hendry, Andy Campbell? No. That's a bit bizarre, isn't it?

1:06:22Gary Neville: We'll love you, Jamie. It's a crazy one. It's too much to mix up there. He said it on a TV the other night. He must have said it. Where's he said this, by the way? He was... All right. That's on top of the Martinelli stuff. Is this why he doesn't come on the show? Is this why he doesn't come on the show anymore? Have we dropped him? He's gone away. I'm glad he's gone away. He needs a break. Just name his team again. His team, Dier, Seth Johnson, Richard Reitingold, Carragher, Ferdinand, Gareth Barry, Frank Lampard. The midfield's good, isn't it? Barry, Lampard, Gerrard. Up front, you've got Emil Heskey, Leandri and Andy Campbell.

1:06:58Gary Neville: You've got Caron Rio, centre-backs. Can I ask a question? Was Leandri a striker? When they play, are they still under 21? What do you mean? Or if they're turned into men? Let's just say, let's do this game in their prime. What sort of question is this, Jill? Are they both 21? If they're all like... Adjav Pete. That was a safeguarding question for a minute. I know, Jill, the thing is, I was thinking the same. Let's move on. Right, who should win player of the year? That's a better question. Well, young player, O 'Reilly. All day. Nick O 'Reilly for young player. You know what, if City end up doing...

1:07:43You know what? It depends who gets the lead. Do you think it has to come down to that? I think so, Gilles. I wonder if somebody else has been amazing. I think... He has been amazing. Chelsea and a United player. Bruno, do you think? Bruno should be in the mix. I think Bruno should be in there. Bernardo Silva should be in there. I think Declan Rice should be in there. I think them three. Saka? I think Saka's... Why did you go there? Why did you go there for?

1:08:14Gary Neville: Gabriel should be in there, shouldn't he? I thought you said... Righty, Gabriel? It might not be right. I think because what happens is that everybody's taking notice of the latter stages. Yeah, but he should be in there as well. As I'm lucky with the sending off, do you think? He should have been sent off. I thought it was probably sending off, but I'm glad he didn't get sent off. Gabriel for the little nod. You know something, I was surprised he didn't because it was a little bit aggressive. And you know what was good about it? Is that Erlen? He didn't do any africanics. Because if he did, and he said it himself, he would have got seven.

1:08:46He's old school. He's very old school. He's not going to take that. His dad would have gone down. I'm sure of it. Sorry. We got our lawyers. I didn't say that. You can't help yourself. You know what, when you're too relaxed, that's what happens when you're too relaxed. I'll tell you, you're too chilled. As soon as he makes that movement forward though, he's out of control. It should have been a send-off. If he was sent off, nobody would afterwards be said he'd be on. Gael, did you think as well when they showed the grappling for the gold? It was fair. You think? Yeah, it was fair. The Rattigol game.

1:09:19I'm not trying to find an excuse, but it just felt a little bit like, can the VAR look at that or something? Just look at it, man, give us something. Even now, just look at it. Just look at it. Look at it, is it? No, we're actually sticking with it. What was the question? Who will be player of the year? I think... Does it have to be someone who's won the league? Do you have to win the league? I think he should get something.

1:09:40Gary Neville: Righty, this says who should win the PFA Player of the Year. So I'm going to ask you a question. Who will the players vote for? Will Bruno be popular? Will Gabriel be popular? Because players vote for players they like a little bit. I never tried. I tried to. I know, but they do though, don't they? You know, I always voted for the players. When I played against them, who played well in that time when I see them and if they continue. I've always done that. I never just like, I'm going to do Gary Nevin. I don't get that, but who do you think the players would vote for? I think... They might vote for Bernardo, you know.

1:10:12You know, if you're saying about winning the league...

1:10:14Gary Neville: He's a striker at Brentford, he's... Oh, Thiago. Thiago. 20-odd goals, isn't he? He should be in the team, at least. Well, you know, if somebody keeps their club up, like a Jared Bowen or something, I think they should be recognised as well, cos he's been so consistent. It's always, yeah. And not always against the... Yeah, I know what you mean, yeah. Don't forget about them lads, yeah. Like Romero. I would put Jared Bowen there. You love him. You always mention him. I like Jarrod Bowen. He's so consistent. If you were a manager, you'd like Jarrod... You'd like him, wouldn't you, if you were Jarrod Bowen.

1:10:44Gary Neville: Do you love Jarrod Bowen? I can imagine David Moyes trying to sign for Everton, can't you? Yes. He'd be perfect at Everton, that new stadium, the way he plays. I like him. Yeah, there's time with him and... You know what I mean? I think he'll go, won't he? He'll go to the World Cup, won't he? No. You don't think? I think he likes him. Who's player there, then? I think the players might vote for Bernardo but I'm going to go Bruno. Either one, yeah, I'd have no problem with either one winning it. Which one are you going for, Roy? Well, if City win three trophies, I'll go with... Bernardo. Yeah. Cos you do have to add it up.

1:11:20If you get a few prizes on the back of it, that just edges it.

1:11:23Gary Neville: I think where United are in the league for where they've been all season. Where they're in the league? Third. Third. Any goalkeepers? For Bruno, for them to be in third from where they were, Roy, gee, I mean, seriously. Exactly, but when your standards are really, really low and you just go up a little bit... Bruno does lift them. He does lift them. He's a brilliant player. Yeah, he's a great player. Bruno Obernado, if it's between those two. I don't think Declan gets it before them two, to be fair. What if they win, though? He's in the league. You know what I mean? Because, like, he's eight out of ten, nine.

1:11:50Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? You can't not be in a conversation. Do you think he played well on Sunday? Obviously, we've seen him play better.

1:11:59Gary Neville: Do you know what I thought on Sunday right at the end of the game? And it's probably not a great thing to... I don't remember him in the game. So I didn't say he had a bad game, but I don't remember him in the game. And that's probably for a game of that ilk and a midfield player. I remember certain players in the match. I don't remember Declan or Zubermendi at all. I don't remember them doing anything. That's a problem, isn't it? You know something? What I would have done as well when you said about Mikkel, I would have put Declan in Zubermendi's position. I'd put Odegaard in where Declan is.

1:12:33and then I'd put... Eze. I'd do something like that. I still don't know if Odegaard does enough. You know what I'm thinking? He's busy. He's good, but... Yeah, but I think he's busy for us. I thought he played well. I thought he played well. I thought he played well. I thought he played well. But, erm... The only reason I would go Bruno is I think it's easier for Silva to perform with them players around him, whereas I think Bruno has kept his consistent levels when not everybody's been good around him. The only argument to that, when you're playing in a much better team and you're standing out, it's easier in a little bit, not for his stats, his stats are amazing.

1:13:07Yeah. It's easier for Bruno to do well in a poor team because you're going to stand out even more. Yeah, but he's standing out. You stand out in a brilliant team, you're like, wow. Yeah. Yeah, but he's standing out, standing out. I think he's standing out. When it's been against him, he's still got his assists. I've said it, when he gets up all in position. If it's not Declan, I wouldn't have no problem with them two. But I think Declan's got to be in a concentration, my guy. My guy, of course he has. I'm going Javid Bourne. nice one who are you going for Jill Bernard Bourne nice one Jill yeah if they stay up I think he's kind of I think he's drove the team

1:13:38Gary Neville: I'll take her down ok can we just remember can we forget all if they win or if they don't win today if you name it now because no one's won anything or gone down because he's City have got to win three trophies for Bernardo to win it no no but it gives you an edge Arsenal got to win the league today the vote's today I said it's silver well they're not in the relegation zone so Jared Bourne ok if Arsenal win it and then Declan. Fucking hell. So are you going? I'm going Bruno. Can we get a second vote for Bruno or not? Is that just with the Man United hat on though? No, it's not. I've been hard on Bruno at times in the last few years for times when he was sort of like...

1:14:12Gary Neville: What about Royce saying about playing with the players he's playing and he's, you know, they're third and it's brilliant that they've got to... Bruno and all of a sudden I've said Bruno and you're literally churning on him. No, because I'm trying to put a case forward for my guy who's trying for the last two, three years to do it and he's been... I'm one of our Arsenal win the Champions League. We didn't even mention that. I forgot. The votes today. I don't think Arsenal will win the Champions League. The votes today. Why did you say that? Do you think they'll win the Champions League? Yeah, very good chance.

1:14:41I'm not so sure. Yeah, well, that's your opinion. You're on about obviously Arsenal with the league. The distraction, them two games against Atletico will take a lot out of them. But the thing is, in between those, you've got Fulham and West. Do you think they'll get past Atletico? I think they've got a great chance. Yeah, I think it's a good... It'll take a lot out of them. I'd rather that side of the draw. 100%, yeah.

1:15:00Gary Neville: Right, so you're going for player of the year then? You've got to name one yet. I'm going for Declan Rice. So we've got four different player of the years. Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Declan Rice and Gerard Boas. Especially if we're in the league, Declan Rice. And if we're in the Champions League, then Ballon d 'Or as well. Ballon d 'Or. The World Cup, what if they win the World Cup? If they win the World Cup, Ballon d 'Or. And they should invent a new trophy for him as well. Do you think Harry Kane could get the Ballon d 'Or? Of course he can. That'd be good. Is he 50 goals he's got? Oh, he's amazing.

1:15:29Gary Neville: Stick to Football is brought to you by Arm Clothing. I've got a question here. I missed the 2022 World Cup final due to a friend's wedding. Have any of you missed a huge moment in football because of someone else? No. I always miss family occasions for football. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. I was doing the actually the other way round. If there's a wedding and then there's like a World Cup final, I'll watch the game, then I'll go to the wedding. I thought you meant playing in it. Salford would have played in it. Grimsby, I'd probably miss a wedding or something. Would you? I've not been to a wedding for 15 years.

1:16:06That's a great excuse to miss a wedding, isn't it? If there's a sporting occasion.

1:16:12Gary Neville: Weddings are long years. They should not have a wedding. Speakers every two seconds. I remember Coley, 95, my first season in the first team, Coley, his wife went into labour whilst we were just about an hour before kick-off. And he said, no, the team's been named, I'm playing. Yeah. Really? Yeah, he did, yeah. I remember Coley, yeah. And he stayed. He said, I'll go after the game. And the manager gave him the choice. Would that happen now, do you think? Or do you think that would... No, they'd go. They'd probably be there. They'd probably be there a few days before as well. No, I kind of get that with a player.

1:16:45Gary Neville: Yeah, I remember Coley... I was in the World Cup when my first daughter was born, in 94. I missed the game, yeah. You missed the game or you... No, I've played the game. I'm not going to miss a game. I think if it's like your game or whatever... I was in America, but I'm not going to travel all over back. It's not different if it's up the road. Do you know what? She forgave me. I don't remember these things. They're babies, aren't they? Oh, she forgave you. I thought you meant your wife. She forgave you. You've got HR. What do you know if you're out of game? Everything's HR. I wouldn't miss a wedding to go and watch a World Cup final.

1:17:21What? It depends who's wedding, isn't it? No. No, it is, isn't it? And what part they've invited you to. Yeah. And then you don't have to give them a present, do you, then, if you've... I'd always say, I'll come to the evening. Would you send them a voucher? Voucher for them. OK, last question. Sorry, combine, yeah. £20 voucher. Get them the best present. I don't know what the question was. Last question.

1:17:38Gary Neville: Go on, then, go. Will Tottenham go down? You said no. No. You said no. 100%. Just stand up. get all your money how much money have you got? just put on Spurs staying up guaranteed go on do it brought to you by Skybat

1:17:59what is the odds for them to stay up? what is the odds anyway? what are the odds

1:18:02Gary Neville: on Spurs staying up and going down? what are they? Spurs are staying up I messaged you a while back going City to win the league and Tottenham to stay up I definitely did did I respond to it? no probably not probably just a selfie Yeah. What? But I wanted to know the God. Have you seen Jill on Instagram dancing? Have you seen that? Yeah, it's brilliant. Wow. I love it. Yeah, it's a bit of fun. I love it, Jill. How fun. Should we show one of your pictures, Roy? Should we show one of your pictures? No, can we see Jill dancing? No, let's look at your pictures. No, did you see your dancing doing a rap song?

1:18:31Show Roy's, like, thingy face. He sent me a really nice one. We'll show you Astic football. That one the other day was a nice one. I can't remember. The last one. It's always a selfie. It was a selfie. He was happy. There you go. We don't get a response. Yeah, but that's my answer. That's his answer. That's my answer. Read my facial. Right, let me... Are you on a shoot there? I like when we ask a question. I like when we ask a question in a group, Roy, and then you do one of your answer question face. Yeah, thanks, Ian. I like it. You don't need to text me, Chino. Come on, man, you know. Yeah, but you don't ask...

1:19:03Roy, other reply to you.

1:19:05Gary Neville: That's the one. This is all he does. Yeah. It's like, can you come into the shop for a coffee? Get one more. Get one more. Do you get the gist of it? Do you get the gist of it? Get one where he's walking Riley or something. It's always cool, Riley one. There you go.

1:19:22Were we at the coffee... Don't get words. Were we at the coffee house last week? Yes, we were. Scrambled egg on toast. I don't expect you to travel all the way up. That's a shut the face. What's happening? We done or what? Look at that one. Hold on a second. Right, yeah. Is that Salford?

1:19:41Gary Neville: It's Cobrambers. It's Cobrambers. Right, Tottenham going down, yes or no? Yes. Yes. No. I don't want them to for football. You don't want them to go down, do you? No, I don't want them to go down, but like I was with Arsenal, I don't know how they're going to stay. It seems to me the momentum's not with them. It can happen. It's like everybody's thinking, oh, it can't happen because it's Tottenham. It can happen. I think it might happen. I think it might happen. I think they could now. I think they could now. That 2-2 was a real death knell. Just remember, they're staying upright. Mm-hm. They're all sitting on the fence.

1:20:15What do you want?

1:20:15Gary Neville: Tottenham are staying up. We're going to end with that. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. OK. Staying up. Thank you.

1:20:28Do you know what we didn't talk about? Leicester going down 10 years. Oh, Leicester. 10 years since winning it. It's only ten years since he's in the league. Ten years since the one... Kevin, you come. Five years since the one... I've got a ball for me.

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