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The episode features actress Felicity Jones, a nominee for 'Best Supporting Actress' for her role in The Brutalist. The conversation covers her career, superstition, and personal anecdotes about food and family.
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1:05Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here at Ernie's. I've been busy working on my face. I saw that, darling. I had a laser. Why did you do that? Because I want to have everlasting youth. Why wouldn't you want that? I went to see Jasmina, my facialist, and I got this laser done. And I looked mental after it. And then I went and had the sperm under your eye. Is that where you normally put sperm? Jesus, mother. No, it's polynucleotides. It's trout sperm. And my friend had to Google how they extract the sperm. And so my eyes look slightly puffy. And there's some poor trout there that didn't get what he was expecting.
1:53What the hell? He's now on my face. Oh, God. Anyway, we have Felicity Jones on the podcast today, who is probably going to be up for an Oscar. Yeah. Is already up for BAFTA, has been up for Golden Globes. We both watched The Brutalist. And it is a wonderful, fantastic, marvellous film. It's epic. It's tragic. It's beautiful. It's... Touching. Yeah, it's a lot. And it feels so grand. Some of the shots are just stunning. I mean, most of the shots are stunning. It was all shot on film. And it just had this beautiful quality to it. So it's about Adrian Brody's character, Laszlo Toff, moving to America post having survived the concentration camp.
2:41Buchenwald. And it's about him trying to get his family, his wife, who Felicity plays, and his niece, who Rafi Cassidy plays, over to America to start a new life where, you know, it feels like it will be limitless and prosperous. He's this amazing architect. He's kind of revolutionary, pioneering. He's a brutalist. Studied at the bar house. You've got to go and watch it. But basically, I'm a fan of Felicity. I think she's an amazing actress. I was a fan of her in Chalet Girl. Me too. Loved Chalet Girl. Well, I remember as Emma Grundy. Do you? Emma Grundy, yes. On The Archers. Yes. um i actually i was in paris with her probably a decade ago i'm trying to remember when we were there together so kind of known her for a while but haven't seen her for years and very excited to have felicity jones come on talk about the brutalist talk about her career talk about food um and what have you made an onion and anchovy tart well it's not a tart it's called a pis Pisal?
3:47Pisaladier. Pisaladier, which I think we made when we went to Leith's cookery school, darling. It's kind of like an open flanny thing on pastry. Yeah. I don't know what it's going to be like. I hope it's okay. Well, I've made with it, which now I'm thinking is probably a bit silly. I've made something with shallots on. I've done a potato salad. Did you hear me when I said I was making an onion tart? Yeah, but you're doing like caramelised onions. and so I did shallots. For onion on onion. Yeah okay fine well it's done now isn't it? Yeah. And then I've done yes I've done a potato salad kind of french potato salad with shallots cut up very small.
4:28I've run underwater I didn't realize that that was a trick to get rid of the kind of oomph of them but they're still pretty oomph. You can peel them underwater or run water when you're peeling them and it's supposed to take the sting away. Well I just chop them and then put them in so anyway i've probably done it wrong but whatever um they still taste quite pungent is there onion in the other salad no oh in the other salad it's shaved fennel and celery with parmesan and a dressing quite similar but with some garlic that you actually put the garlic in and then you take the garlic out 10 minutes later which i think is very clever infused so it's infused but it's not like as pungent because poor poor felicity's got to do the one show later i've got tic tacs upstairs i don't think tic tacs are gonna cut it mum she's having onion eating parsley stops the smell of garlic so anyway we that's what we're doing and then for pudding my three-year-old has come up trumps again and has made an apple and cinnamon cake that he made for the family and everyone loved so I said mate can you get me another one of them on the go and so he made it yesterday he may be our new pastry chef I know I mean let's face it's my wonderful nanny helping him but he loves it oh my god speaking of children I I'm just going to put this out here and I accept that this is a very motherland situation and I want to cringe with everyone.
5:44Last week I went out with my lovely friends from my son's year one class, like a few of them, like some couples. And we haven't really gone out all together. We were just at a local place. And my gorgeous friend next to me said something and I misheard. I thought she said, he's smart, isn't he? And I went, he's incredibly smart. Yeah, he's quite brilliant. And she went, no, no, his birthday's in March right and I went oh god oh god I'm dying and I'm putting it out there to let you know that I am dying and it was so motherland and I was Amanda and I hate myself for mishearing her but yeah my son is clever it was can I just ask you do you want me to put some tomatoes in a bowl to add just so it's red and I bought a bread what are the tomatoes for I just Have you got any basil?
6:37Have I asked you that one? You've asked me three times now. Have you got memory loss? Anyway, Felicity Jones coming up on table now.
6:53Felicity Jones, you've just come in. You are open to the Cremon. We appreciate that. Cheers. I like a little Cremon. Cheers to the Bricklist and your fabulous part in your success. Thank you very much. And to seeing you again after all these years. Have a sip. Yeah, let's do it. Your whistle, is that what we say? Apparently it's bad luck if you cheers and you don't sip. Oh, really? Are you superstitious, Felicity? Yeah, I am actually. So come on, tell me some other things that you're superstitious about. I don't like walking on cracks and pavements. Yeah, no, I am very. I mean, it's trying to find some control in a world of chaos, isn't it?
7:30Did you get more suspicious as you became a more successful actress? Was it more like you were like, if I step on that crack, I'm not going to get row one. You just get more insecure. Well, I think you just get more insecure as you get older, don't you? Do you feel that? Well, flying. I used to never have a problem going in an airplane. And now I'm listening to meditation apps. Why? I'm jittery. I don't know. I think it's having children. I think suddenly your perceived sense of danger is so much stronger. So it's not flying with your children, because I know that's quite a stressful thing. That's the whole other side of danger, that is definitely not relaxing.
8:06I know my husband has gone away for work and is on a plane, and he was like, oh my goodness, flying without children. It's fab. It's a whole other experience. It's actually pleasurable. You can watch all your films. I know. You can sit down for more than five minutes. Yeah. But you must be all over the place anyway. Yeah. so literally metaphorically but if you're filming you're clearly did you film The Brutalist in America? We shot it in Hungary in Budapest but it is actually set in in Philadelphia and you filmed it all in Hungary? So we shot yeah we shot the whole thing seven weeks eight weeks yeah cheaper you get more bang for your buck in Hungary than you do in the States.
8:54Amazing so what did you do where did you live in hungary so i was living in in budapest and you have to say budapest well you're an excellent yes particularly after this film i have to get it right what was your name in the film just elizabeth which is a hungarian version of elizabeth yeah you have the same dialect coach as my daughter who acts it tannera tannera yeah who's brilliant yeah who actually I've started working with On The Brutalist and have worked with twice since. Yeah. She has somehow that, working with her, I've just found accents, I've sort of been liberated by working with her.
9:37I've just found it so much easier. Yeah, Carla says she's fab. Yeah. So are we allowed to know what the next other accents, you don't have to say the films, but what are the other accents that you've had to learn? Well, I've been doing, I did an ensemble Christmas comedy over the summer holidays with Michelle Pfeiffer, the formidable, amazing Michelle Pfeiffer playing. She plays the mother and it's about a family and it's a version of Home Alone where we forget our mum and leave her at home rather than a young boy. Oh, how fun. And so for that, I was doing an American accent. So will that be coming out this Christmas?
10:11And that'll be coming out this Christmas. Oh, that's so... I mean, it's been a long time since we've seen you like with Snow, Chalet Girl. Yeah. I loved Chalet Girl. I did as well. Well, thank you. actually for oh what fun the name of the film we were shooting in atlanta and it was searingly hot boiling in the summer and we were having to put on these woolen jumpers and extra coats and kind of sweating underneath so um yes do um because i'm just trying when did you film the brutalist um a while ago so we shot the brutalist in 20 i have to think now 2022 2022 so you just had a baby so i had i'd had beatrice no let me get this right my mind's a bit soupy but so 2023 um we shot the brutalist and actually that was the year of my daughter's birth was 2022 right it's just why it's a big day in my head but yes 2023 we shot the brutalist it was around april and and you were filming on film we shot on film um which was you know brady's ambition from the very brady i think it's oh it's always so beautiful to watch whenever i'm watching something i'll be on you know whatever it is and i'll go this looks really lovely what and then you'll look and check on IMDb and it's it's usually been shot on film yeah it makes such a massive difference but how many how many takes did you was it a bit like listen you get two goes of each scene or what like how because that shit's expensive yeah I mean we were pretty uh well I we knew from talking to Brady I mean not only it was such an ambitious project and so um so personal in some ways to Brady and Mona, his wife, and they wrote the screenplay together.
12:05Yeah, it's a husband-wife team. That we knew that it was important that we knew exactly what we were doing before we got to set. And I'd have these conversations with Brady because actually I was signed on to do the film two years before we shot. And the film had been through such a struggle to actually get it made and it'd fallen apart and then come together and I came on in 2022 and both Stacey and Rafi were both on then so it was the three of us and so I'd had two years to really meditate on it think about it prepare get my head in the right place to play air jubet and then before we started obviously before we started shooting um Aidan Brody came on board and Guy Pearce and then obviously with them it was all good to go.
12:55But having had that time, I felt really I needed that prep. Yeah, because it was one of the most challenging things I've done. I mean, apart from Shallow Girl, which was the other immensely challenging role. You wouldn't put those roles together, but actually they both kind of weirdly demanded a lot of prep. What did Shallow Girl demand? I had to learn how to snowboard. Ski and snowboard. Yes, that's a good point. Yeah, from snowboarding. Have you ever done it since? um I I did do it a bit and I went not long after I'd shot Shally Girl and in my head I thought it was going to be so good I had this idea and then I got up there and then we went up I went with my husband and we went up with um with a teacher yeah and I was like I've got this I've got this and then the moment I sort of came off the lift like wobbled and fell flat on my face and then consequently throughout the whole time kept falling over and after that I um I'd done a little bit of skiing when I was younger so I went back to skiing.
13:54Why was it so personal to Brady and his wife to write the film? Um the film they've spoken about this in some ways for them this film is about making a film and they had had a film project that was enormously difficult which was a struggle in the same way that Adrian Brody's character is struggling to put his artistic vision in the world right they had had something similar but they thought it's not that interesting making a film about making a film let's put it into a different world and um both of them i think this is right have had architects in their family and they're both interested in architecture um and so they yeah then they found this story that actually on reading it when i read the script i thought it was as many people have thought similarly that it was a real story and that they were real people.
14:48But there must be someone real there. No, they were based, weren't they? They're an amalgamation of lots of different people and people's experience who actually lived. But this story is a fiction, but it's obviously informed by real events and real people. Can we take it back to growing up in Birmingham? Yeah. Who was around the dinner table and what were you eating? Well, growing up, food and eating was a big part of my family life. Both my mother and my father are tremendous cooks. And there's always been an emphasis on family. They both, my mother was one of three, my father's one of four.
15:30Big emphasis on big family meals together. My mum actually did Christmas lunch, which was really tasty. and there's nothing like having your mother's cooking. It is that, I don't know what it is. It's just, it's somehow healing in some way. So I'm very lucky. Strangely, Jessie doesn't feel like that. I know, I did think I was getting like blank stares looking back at you. I'm like, yeah. No, I love your food. We do a lot of cooking. I just get it every week, which I'm very lucky. Yes. Yeah, the more sparing it is, then the more you'd probably appreciate it. What was your favourite dish that your mum made when you were younger or your dad?
16:11So my mum would do a lovely upside-down apricot pudding. Oh! Which she still does now, and I'll come and I'll say, can you do the upside-down apricot pudding? We need the recipe. Which is from, my mum had this collection of sort of ancient 80s cookbooks, you know, all the ones where you're looking through and you think, I'm not sure the images make the food look that appetising. Back in the day, and everything's brown. Yes, it's Robert Carrier. yeah yeah um lots of illustrations a lot illustrations and I love I love going back home and seeing her cookbooks and they're all covered in bits you know you can see they've been used food and um and whatnot so that's my particular favorite of hers and then I got my um parents were separated so I would spend every other weekend with my father and he is also a great cook and he does a fantastic I mean he's from Italian heritage and so there's always lots of pasta and he does a great um pasta with salami and parmesan um and you know so almost like a carbonara but with um salami and rosemary oh yes it's a great one is it creamy or is it kind of drier well if it goes because I do it and I can never get it as quite as good as he does it and it's because it goes too dry and the key is that you keep the moisture in it um and so that comes from it's that thing like a carbonara you just it's the egg it's putting the egg in and it not right time and not scrambling and the pasta water yes exactly to emulsify that's it and that gives you the liquidity yeah i mean tom carriage gave us a tip that if you want to make things like more liquid just put water in you don't have to put loads of cream in or butter just put some water in i think it's a really good tip don't you was that for your lab now yeah yeah i made lab now and i thought it was jesse thought it was too stiff and wanted to put olive oil in and i didn't and he said we can just put more that's it because sometimes you think water is sort of the enemy of cooking no no actually yes in the right in the right way pasta for pasta you're always using the water yeah amazing how many really simple pasta dishes use that that pasta water yeah Are you hungry?
18:32Would you like something to eat? Yeah, I was actually wondering when I was going to go to eat. Whilst mum sorts that. We're just going to get you drunk, Felicity. So where did you come in your four siblings? Well, in the four of you. So I, yes, so I'm my older brother, who I work with, who I have a production company with. And then it's me. And then I have two younger half-siblings. And a half-sister and a half-brother. So did your brother see when you got your gig on The Worst Witch and he thought, that looks like a good gig. I want to work within this. Or were you inspired by your brother being passionate about TV, film?
19:13Yeah, I mean, cinema was just such a big part of our household. My mother is a cinephile and my father loves music. and I think between those, between the music and the cinema, that fusion is what my brother and I inherited, you know, that made us want to go into the business. And I think it was going to the cinema, watching films and theatre as well, actually. That was a big... Oh, this looks yummy. I mean, it's kind of... So who's cooked this? We've kind of done a bit of a joint effort today. So mum's made the main and I've done the sides and I apologise because I know you're on the one show later, so you're going to have to get some gum.
19:54because there's a lot of onion oh oh good i was gonna say garlic which is no good if you're there's a little bit of garlic but i've tried to avoid the garlic more because you know when it like starts being very very it just keeps on giving yeah hopefully you won't get that today so yeah so mum's made mum do you want to say what you've made or should i say you know the french onion tart that you have with caramelized onions and anchovies and all it Yeah, yeah. Mum's made that. And then we've got like a shea fennel, celery, parmesan, lemony salad for crunch. And then a potato salad. So it's kind of quite light.
20:31Yeah, lovely. Because you've been... It's almost quite summery. Almost. On this wintry day. And then my three-year-old's made good. He's made an apple cinnamon cake for us. Oh, lovely. That he made yesterday because it went down well the day before. So I was like, well, maybe... That's very good for a three-year-old. Look at that. It's my nanny majority. Yeah, I was going to say. A little help. A little help on this way. He does like chefing. So, yeah. They love cooking, don't they? Yeah, they do. Do you want to help yourself? Thank you very much. I've cut it up, so... Oh, delicious. Do you need...
21:03Right. So, I saw your top jaw. Mmm. And you seem like you're a foodie. Mmm, very much, yeah. You live in West London. but you were giving you were breaking the rules by going out of West London which I kind of loved that you did that well I thought it was too hard you know there's just there were some grapes that I had to get in there what's your order is it the Punjab Palace Punjabi Palace which is in the Midlands which was great when we were growing up I have to say Birmingham is probably the best place for curry I think best place in the world so what's your order at the Punjabi Palace prawn curry what kind of prawn curry like prawn dancer where are we going with this I love a prawn boonah I knew it great minds that Birmingham connection yes exactly prawn boonah yeah I know I was desperate well I was desperate to do Peaky Blinders and Tom who directed it who I did the aeronauts with I was like come on Tom come on you've got you know you've got a willing actor here because I just I would have loved to have done the film they did the film with the they've done it it elevated Birmingham and it's well I listen to it and I know I'm like that's not right that's right that's not right that's right yeah you didn't get very passionate didn't get the call annoying I know can't even get you now you know probably Oscar they find out tomorrow don't we Oscar nominated come on did you act at school did I act at school I do you know what my main acting was from I went to Central Junior television workshop which was um my father at the time was a producer television producer at central television and they had an amazing drama group right that was funded by central television and it was open to the entire city that's so clever and they exactly and nottingham had the same one and it's when these companies had this other side to them which makes total sense because when they were casting for TV programs and things they had a children's drama group and that really was I'd done a drama group before that the custard factory so I was really passionate about it at a young age but then at Central Junior Television Workshop I had a great great teacher there Colin Edwards and he just gave us the the launch really he ran this group and it was after school on a Thursday, I think, and I would go there every Thursday.
23:39And through that, I had the audition for The Archers. How old were you? I think I started that when I was about 11 or 12. When she was little Emma Grundy. Yes, tiny Emma Grundy. Have you gone back and met any of the people that play you now? No. Because Ella's just had a big moment. No, you know what? I listen every... Yeah, I really like having... When I'm cooking, actually. And she was outstanding. Love having the radio on. when she the whole thing are you a big fan? oh I love it I know I can sense involved knowledge I just love it yeah it's well actually my mother listens to it as well so it really reminds me of her when I'm in the kitchen I'll put it on what they're like the Sunday omnibus yeah exactly just the noise of the radio is so homely about it all the time yeah
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25:11I wanted to ask you if we were coming around to yours what would Felicity Jones be I'll let my three year old know bless him is it dry? we'll find out in a minute it's an apple and cinnamon cake that's kind of had things drizzled into it let's see moist moist but yeah if we were coming around And what would you be cooking for us? If you came around to me, I would probably, I'd probably do crisps as a starter in a bowl. Maybe if you were lucky with a little salami or something and some olives. Lovely. And then I would probably most likely do a pasta. and I do really like very simple prawns, garlic and baby tomatoes in a white wine chilli sauce.
26:11And how do you get rid of the kind of the garlic? I mean, is it quite, is everyone going home like? I like a punchy garlic. Okay, so you don't mind that everyone's going to go home and the vampires won't be visiting that night? Don't mind at all. Do you cut your tomatoes up? Cherry tomatoes? Cherry tomatoes. And I will, I'll try and put them in whole actually because you know when they get a little bit tender and then you want the explosion of the tomato in your mouth whereas if you cut them up then it's not quite the same but the tomatoes I will put in the oven with the garlic and olive oil and just let them sort of roast and then do the prawns separately on the hob with a little olive oil, garlic, chilli and then I'll tend to do a spaghetti and then with the pasta water and then mix them all together.
27:06Sounds delicious. And then, yeah. Is that creamy or is that the main? That's the main. And you're doing a salad? It's pretty simple. And then I would probably do a rocket salad with some parmesan. I think that sounds delicious. And you know what? I never do pasta when people come over and I always love it if someone feeds it to me. I'm not confident. I'm not confident with it either. This is delicious. I know. It did well, didn't it? Mmm. Yeah. Pudding, you sweet person. I mean, you talked about the apricot upside down Coke. Which is delightful. Have you ever served that? Do you know what? I haven't actually cooked it myself.
27:46So that may be... I should do it for when my mum comes around. I'm just coming around this weekend. Oh, nice. Maybe I should surprise her with some apricot upside down pudding. Now, I'll usually do, I like to just freestyle on the pud and do a chocolate mousse with chocolate flake sprinkled on top, maybe some strawberries and raspberries. Possibly, sometimes you can do hot berries cooked. We've got this flavoured rhubarb vodka and you can cook the frozen raspberries or whatever, fruits. cook them in the hob and add the rhubarb vodka and it's really nice makes almost you know like a little sauce to put with the chocolate mousse nice so if you go to the oscars which i'm sure you will be who will go with you that's a good question your husband or is he at home looking after the kids my everyone will have to fight it to the death to work out who is going to be the who's going to be the guest.
28:49Who went last time? Last time... Oh, actually, last time, my mother and my father and my brother, my eldest brother came. Oh, great. My little younger brother and sister were too young. What are you wearing? Who's dressing you? Who am I wearing? I'm not sure quite yet. She doesn't know whether she's going yet, Mum, because she doesn't know if she's... Hold on, yeah. I'm not... Guys, you don't want to... But they go anyway. They get invited anywhere if you're part of the film. We don't want to jinx it. No. Oh, she's superstitious. Let's not do this. What do you have for Golden Globes? I wore Prada.
29:25Stunning. Prada. Prada. Prada. I wore my Prada. Got my Prada out. Did you like your outfits on in the Brutalist? That hat. The wig. I'm trying to remember. I loved the wig. Did you? I loved the outfits. Yeah. I always... That's quite a process. Yeah. going through everything and figuring out what are we saying with this dress particularly with azure bett who you know is someone who's going to make a statement with what she's wearing it was quite key finding the right yeah the right outfit for the scene when she talks about like getting her hair done she's like and she's just trying to make him look at her it's so human isn't it and they haven't seen each other for such a long time and they've been through this horrendous trauma how do you ever make it up and that loss of time i i don't know i think that's what the film is it's mostly about that is looking at and how do you establish your family how do you navigate how do you navigate the world together because everyone's so damaged as well yeah and that's what actually um adrian made a great point about how do you build such a to use a building analogy how do you build a foundation when everything has been ripped away from you how do you then and particularly with two people who've gone through it who've both been through trauma it's very hard to build a sure foundation before we let you go we'd like to know your last supper for this two oh yes so you've got a starter a main a pud a drink of choice okay my um prawn cocktail where are you getting your prawn cocktail from as in where have you eaten a particular place just at home do you make it I made it for ages again that's something else my mother used to make when we were little you seem such a fan of your mum yeah I am actually yes I mean all Parent child relationships come with You know many features But I'm I'm actually very close to both my Mum and my dad and particularly I think When you have children yourself You have a new understanding Of these people and You totally yeah You become friends So you prawn cocktail first Yes so prawn cocktail first Homemade Mary Rose sauce Yeah A little bit of lettuce.
32:05Would you put Tabasco in? Tabasco, definitely. Tabasco is the key ingredient. Are you a hot sauce girl? I never used to be. My husband loves chilli on everything. Oh my god. And I found that now my it's gone up. You could do hot ones soon. So, oh, why not? Where you eat the chicken wings. You've not seen that? No, what is that? You literally eat like 10 chicken wings. Oh, I know I did. I saw a clip on Instagram. You'll be arse soon, babes. Oh, goodness, I have to prepare for that. Yeah. So you do a prawn cocktail. So prawn cocktail. Prawns or small? Actually, I quite like the small prawns. Yeah, I think it's easier.
32:47You can get them in your mouth easier. Yeah, I would go full 80s on it. Otherwise, you have to hold the tail and suck it out, don't you? Totally, and it's not the same. And they're really nice. You know, like French crevettes, that's a whole different thing, I think. And you don't want the maribou sauce with those. No, you don't. peeled them and you want kind of garlic and mayonnaise yeah what is that i can never know i only don't you so yeah i would go for the smaller pawn and then on the uh and then the lunch would be macaroni cheese yum you're not well i don't know i know mac and cheese colman domingo macaroni cheese it's the comfort factor yes with um tomatoes on top yes that's how my grandma made And she was from Birmingham.
33:34Oh my God, it's a full circle. Yeah, it is definitely a Birmingham weave. It's a full circle. She has to put them on the top. Oh my God. Is that a Birmingham thing? And they kind of burst into the macaroni cheese. It's obviously a delicacy from the heart of Birmingham. Who taught you about that, your mum? My mother. Oh my God, maybe we're related for this too. It goes full circle. You do look like my sister. Fuck, we should really investigate this. I know, I feel like you can move in, bring my family. Absolutely. And apricot upside down pudding. Or chocolate mousse. You like a chocolate mousse?
34:14Yeah. Have you got a secret to your chocolate mousse, besides the flakes? This isn't even homemade chocolate mousse. Oh, where are you getting it from? Well, I like the Bon Maman. Oh, I love them. Oh, they are good. I like the Bon Maman. But then I would put a little maybe apricot upside down pudding on the side. And maybe a little creme fraiche as well. Drink? Drink. Drink would be probably a nice glass of dry rosé. Oh, I love rosé. I love rosé, yeah. I don't know why I don't drink it in the winter, but I don't. It sort of goes out of fashion, doesn't it? Well, and also it's quite nice to drink red in the winter.
34:56It is nice to drink red, but people still drink white in the winter. They do, but rosé just doesn't make it over the hype. No, it doesn't, and I love it. I think I've got to go back to drinking rosé. I think you'll find a way. I think I'll find a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somehow. How long are you going to be in England for before you whisk off again? Who knows? Oh, right. You do know. You're about to do something really exciting. You can do theatre. What about theatre? I love doing theatre. Why don't you do something next? Would that be good with two children at that age? I don't know. It's the worst thing to do if you've got children because you have to leave so early and you never see them at night and they're in school during the day.
35:42Well, I don't know. I tend to think the right... It's a good excuse. I'm off to the theatre. I think it depends on the project. It depends. Have you got exciting things? play the film TV show nothing you can tell us what is going on what is going on I've got well I've got this oh what fun this ensemble great can't wait kids are going to love that and then I did a really tiny indie movie called Train Dreams which is our which is going to Sundance this year and is out well who knows when it will be out who's in it with you is it just Joel Edgerton oh great who's fantastic yeah I've worked with some really great people.
36:24Joel Edgerton in Train Dreams this last year, because we shot everything last year. And then Michelle Pfeiffer. Is she lovely? I just imagine. She's very, yeah. After one fine day with George Clooney. Oh, I love that. I imagine she just, is she like that? She's, oh, she's just, yeah, really cool. She's still pretty as well, isn't she? Really kind and, oh, yeah, sometimes you're just like, yeah, she's so pretty. God, that face is amazing. Yeah. but I re-watched One Fine Day having not seen it for years so good and then I watched it when I was working with Michelle I know we'd go through as the cast it's Chloe Chloe Grace Moretz is in it and Dominic Sessa who was in The Holdovers and Jason Schwartzman who was he in The Holdovers?
37:11the main boy the main boy oh I love the name he worked before yeah no it was his he was at drama school and it was one of his first jobs yeah I loved him Oh, and he, so he plays, so I'm the eldest, and then Chloe's the middle, and Dominic is the youngest. So, and we were very, we were very close. And Dennis Leary plays our father. But we would just go through Michelle's CV, you know, go, look at all these, I mean, unbelievable. Just one amazing director after another. She's just good at a rom-com. And she's a, she's a great actress. She's a great actress, yes. Also, I don't know if you, your four-year-old's too young, but we just got into Hairspray the Musical.
37:50she was very good in that too oh was she in that? the remake she was in the remake with John Travolta and Zac Efron because my son's obsessed with Zac Efron I haven't seen that yeah it's quite fun when they're a bit older it's really good last question a nostalgic taste that can take you back somewhere nostalgic taste as in a food it can be a taste a scent something that can transport you back oh my I have my grandmother's old dressing table and it's so bizarre and I've got you know I use it to put my makeup on and stuff and I am in the drawers when I open the drawers it is the smell is hard it's so insane and I've got some of her old she used to wear these amazing silk scarves and I've got a couple of those as well but it's literally like a time capsule I'll open it and oh I've just sometimes a smell brings someone back so much more powerfully doesn't it do you ever do karaoke sometimes I haven't done it recently actually I feel like there was a time in my life I was always going to karaoke so I guess it's in your 20s what's your song I don't really have a song I'm not a big singer have you sung in any of your parts I'm not yeah have you no I did a disastrous um musical when I was doing my A-levels.
39:17Which musical? How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying. And they should not have, I should not have been cast. I cannot keep time. I cannot keep time. I cannot sing a song and keep time with that. And I just kept looking over at the pianist and he was just looking at me like, what is she doing? It was so awful. Oh my God, I literally have like, get shakes just from thinking about it. and I was looking out I'd be doing these songs you know and I'd give it give it my best shot yeah and I'd be looking out at the audience and I'd just sort of see their faces going so yeah so I will leave singing to those who are who sing better Felicity Jones thank you very much for being on the podcast thank you best of luck with the nominations tomorrow oh thank you no doubt you're up for one so make it happen I think let's put it out into the universe that that will manifest when do you find out tomorrow afternoon at what time Thursday they do like a readout do they I think so I think two people read it I mean I don't care no whatever whatever Trevor yeah exactly thanks so much and best of luck with the rootedness thank you so much for switching us thank you
40:44Well, Felicity Jones is fabulous. Gorgeous woman. Lovely. Clever. So clever. So, so bright. So interested and interesting. Really loved having her. Thank you to Felicity Jones for coming on the podcast. And everyone can go and see The Brutalist now. This is coming out probably when the Oscar nominations have come out. So congratulations, Felicity. I'm sure you're up for one I thought she was completely wonderful Your tart was fab It wasn't a but today No, I'm saying nothing Usually it's lovely mum, but You could have added You told me to not give you a but Keep your buts out We'll see you next week
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